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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. I'm Hannah Elliott and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Matt Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Hot Pursuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on today's podcast. Matt had a great interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Ford's Jim Farley that we're going to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we'll play the whole interview for you, because

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<v Speaker 2>Ford actually moved to the top spot on JD Power's

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<v Speaker 2>initial quality survey. So among the large manufacturers, not including

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Niche, like Ferrari or even Portia, but the

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<v Speaker 2>major car makers, Ford is number one in quality and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a huge turnaround from where they were in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, they were number fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a really big deal. And automakers still really

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<v Speaker 1>care about this because I you know, heard from Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>our friend at Porsche earlier today that Porsche is also

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<v Speaker 1>claiming a top spot on JD powers.

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<v Speaker 2>Quality an overall quality, So including you know carmakers like them,

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<v Speaker 2>they are number one, but you expect you expect it

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<v Speaker 2>from from Porsche. I had a nine to eleven for

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<v Speaker 2>ten years and never never once had a mechanical issue

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<v Speaker 2>with it. You guys have had like fifty of them. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's for Ford it's it's an amazing comeback story.

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<v Speaker 2>I was comparing it when I talked with Jim to

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<v Speaker 2>like Tiger Woods winning the Masters in twenty nineteen, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, uh Jordan coming back and winning the championship,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Marquez, Mark Marquez winning the Moto GP World Championship

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<v Speaker 2>last year after almost ending his career from injury. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like an incredible comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jim is basically crediting what is he given credit to.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying it's a culture change up Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean, yeah, it's really it's really the humans.

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<v Speaker 2>The humans have done a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not robots.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I would have thought hearing so much about

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<v Speaker 2>automated factories in China that build hugely uh successful cars

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, perfect panel gaps, I would have thought

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<v Speaker 2>that using AI or like technology to monitor suppliers or

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<v Speaker 2>improve factory processes. Note what happened was they said, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to bring back our older and wiser, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>engineers that have maybe retired or gone on. So they

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<v Speaker 2>call them gray beards, right, the men and women probably

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<v Speaker 2>way the women don't have beards.

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<v Speaker 4>But wait a second, they brought back three hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty older employees to come back and not only train youngs, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but also to train to retrain the AI that had

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<v Speaker 4>just not been doing it right.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so interesting, and I'm seeing it really help

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<v Speaker 1>them in the truck department especially.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, which I mean it's all they well.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget the Mustang. It also help with the misting right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, but they make their money from the trucks and

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<v Speaker 2>the SUVs and the vans, and look, they make an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute ton of money from Ford Pro, which is their

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<v Speaker 2>professional unit that has double digits. They have he said,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty to forty percent subscription rate subscription growth. So the

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<v Speaker 2>business seems to be doing really well. It's still not

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<v Speaker 2>on par in terms of margins with their crosstown rivals,

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<v Speaker 2>General Motors, Like they both in the first quarter had

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<v Speaker 2>forty three plus billion dollars in sales. But over the

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<v Speaker 2>year GM is expecting ten to maybe fifteen billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in pretext earnings, whereas Ford is expecting eight and a

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<v Speaker 2>half to ten and a half billion dollars of pretext earnings.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll hear all about this.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Can't Wait to Listen the interview at Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Farr and Jim was a great interview too.

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<v Speaker 2>He is he looks fantastic, does he? I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>as I sat down, like, I know he's so successful

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<v Speaker 2>because he's such a hard worker and he had such

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<v Speaker 2>a long career at Toyota. And that's part of the

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<v Speaker 2>reason that this is so such good news for him,

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<v Speaker 2>because he you know, he beat Toyota and Honda and

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<v Speaker 2>Hondai and Kia.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's beating he's in the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But also he's so good looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh stop it now, yes, it is. When I first

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<v Speaker 1>saw journalistic on camera today, now was like a beautiful man.

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<v Speaker 1>This is sounding No, no, that's got to help.

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<v Speaker 2>That's got to help in terms of his success.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he doesn't listen to this. It's not we

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to stroke as ego at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I also got to talk to him a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about racing because exactly so, like I was wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>Max for Stappin is gonna drive their hypercar comeback.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're feel like we're seeing it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope. But the thing is, I said, listen, do

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<v Speaker 2>you have Max locked in for uh, what do you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Ford red Bull F one next year? And he was

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<v Speaker 2>like No, he has. The thing is he has a

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<v Speaker 2>clause in his contract that the car has to be competitive.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, Max is going to still race in F one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's confirmed next year, but it's not one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>that he's going to still have the same seat at

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<v Speaker 2>Ford Red Bull. I'm sure that he will, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are rumors, you know, that he could go elsewhere for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the one thing we know about Max Verstappan

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<v Speaker 1>is what he really cares about is racing, full stop.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he cares about.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't he doesn't care about anything else, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we.

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<v Speaker 2>Love him absolutely. I mean, and it's like, say, he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be in the best he wants to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>best car with the best team, the best chance to win. Period.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, you know, it's very simple, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, speaking of racing, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you've had a chance to watch the Kevin Magnus in

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<v Speaker 2>NASCAR event.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you are in for a treat when you do. Now, first,

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<v Speaker 2>do you get to watch it?

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<v Speaker 1>You have not traditionally been a NASCAR.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't, No, And what did happen?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because it's a moment that's gone viral. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean this is I spend more time on social media

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<v Speaker 2>than you do, and I'm not proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to literally get to zero.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not proud of that fact. But you

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<v Speaker 2>can't go on Twitter without if you're into motorsports.

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<v Speaker 3>Without seeing Twitter completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Without seeing people issue an opinion on k Mag in NASCAR.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was invited to do a race by UH

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<v Speaker 2>track House. So track House, which also has a very

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<v Speaker 2>successful Moto GP team, is active in NASCAR, and they

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<v Speaker 2>bring occasionally drivers from other leagues, and so he brought

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Magnuson. He's currently driving you know BMW, the BMW

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<v Speaker 2>hypercar and WEC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think he great River.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he got pole position at Lamon And anyway, he

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<v Speaker 2>goes into NASCAR and he's got a driver in front

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<v Speaker 2>of him that won't get out of the way, Noah Gregson,

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<v Speaker 2>who's like a third generation NASCAR family driver, and he

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<v Speaker 2>bumps Noah and then throughout the next like I know,

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<v Speaker 2>the next ten, fifteen, twenty laps, Noah Gregson is obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with k Mag. He's like bumping him, pulling up beside him,

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<v Speaker 2>giving him the finger hanging beside him, like not passing him,

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<v Speaker 2>because what's important to Noah is giving k Mag the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so angry at these snobby open wheel drivers who

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<v Speaker 2>come into my You're gonna come to my NASCAR and

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<v Speaker 2>teach me how to drive exactly and the whole time,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can listen to clips of it on YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>or on Twitter or whatever. K Mag is like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this redneck is is really annoyed with me, and like

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<v Speaker 2>he just bothered exactly. So finally, you know, after I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many laps, but countless laps, finally k

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<v Speaker 2>Mag says all right, I've had enough and just knocks

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<v Speaker 2>Noah Gregson, spins him and sends him into the wall. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And Noah Gregson threw an absolute fit after the race,

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<v Speaker 2>like ran over to him, why you crash me? Why

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<v Speaker 2>you crash me? And k Mag was just like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, and then find out, buddy, that's right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes here. Anyway. Gregson is superid off. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think most everybody thinks that k Mag was in

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<v Speaker 2>the right totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you for that quick catchup. Yeah, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand percent and I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>I will watch the tapes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worth it on this, on this first blush, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally pro Kevin on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, here's how I know that Noah

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<v Speaker 1>is an inferior driver. And I'll say this with no

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<v Speaker 1>actual knowledge of anything in this arena.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do because that's what everybody on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Is doing too, because he was out of control because

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<v Speaker 1>he got emotional. Yes, And the minute you get emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know, I know race, and I know driving

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<v Speaker 1>on tracks, I've done it for many years and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been around a lot of professional drivers and drive instructors.

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<v Speaker 1>The minute you let your emotions control what you do

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<v Speaker 1>on the track, you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Period, Absolutely, he got a little bit of hot,

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<v Speaker 2>he got hot under.

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<v Speaker 1>The mullet, he got out, and he let Kevin come

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<v Speaker 1>in and control the whole situation. So I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>need to see the video, although I will watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth watching anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I already know no Kevin was out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>That's too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's And the funny thing is, you know NASCAR does

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<v Speaker 2>this Obviously they want a little bit of marketing help

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<v Speaker 2>from other leagues. So you bring in somebody from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>F one or you bring in somebody from WEC, and

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<v Speaker 2>people that normally would only watch F one or WC

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<v Speaker 2>they watch the NASCAR race because Kmag's driving or whoever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and then maybe they get interested.

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<v Speaker 3>And co ellination.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worked for me because now I'm gonna start watching

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<v Speaker 2>NASCAR like religiously. And at the time, I hope also

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<v Speaker 2>that Kmag gets a permanent seat, because it would he

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<v Speaker 2>set the fastest lap of the entire race of all

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<v Speaker 2>the drivers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool. And this is why, like remember the

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<v Speaker 1>race of Champions that they did in the eighties, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Iraq races. This this goes into like we all

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<v Speaker 1>want to see who the best driver is, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>the series. And this goes back to like what we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about, why don't F one drivers drive an

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<v Speaker 1>Indy And we had a whole conversation with Zach Brown

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<v Speaker 1>about that and he gave us his reasons that he

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<v Speaker 1>thought which were very interesting and I could see, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't we all want to see all of these great

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<v Speaker 1>drivers from Indy, from Lama, from F one, from NASCAR,

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<v Speaker 1>like all just go all out. They would never agree

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<v Speaker 1>on a car and they would never all agree on

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<v Speaker 1>a track.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is what we want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, bring back Iraq. I would love to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, some people have made the suggestion like

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<v Speaker 2>there should be a series where they switch off car

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<v Speaker 2>so drivers, but then they would complain that that car

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<v Speaker 2>was better for that track, and I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy that there's so much great racing to watch these days,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm all in. Obviously, Moto GP is insane. Mark Marquez,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, last weekend was nuts and Moto GP.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to quick I know there's a car podcast, but

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<v Speaker 2>just a quick two weird round up. Uh Marco Betseeki,

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<v Speaker 2>who was leading the championship a month ago by over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred points above Mark, he crashed in the sprint

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday. A marshall, one of these volunteer workers, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>safety workers, came out and tried to pick up his

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<v Speaker 2>bike and accidentally goosed the throttle and bet Seki got

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<v Speaker 2>so mad that he slapped the marshal, slapped him, then

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<v Speaker 2>he turned off the bike. Then he stood up again

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<v Speaker 2>and slapped him again in the face. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little frustrated because he wrecked, and also a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit worried about his motor. I get that, but you

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<v Speaker 2>don't slap a marshal who's volunteering his time to help

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<v Speaker 2>your sport, right, It's just not cool. So he was

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<v Speaker 2>so he was suspended from the race, and he lost

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<v Speaker 2>all of all of his points. Oh no, and Mark

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<v Speaker 2>won the race. So now Mark, in the span of

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<v Speaker 2>a month has gone from a deficit of one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and five points to forty points behind the leader. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just amazing to watch, amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible, And it's this type I don't I can't condone

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<v Speaker 1>slapping of race.

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<v Speaker 3>Marshal, but it is kind of funny, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and this goes to show, like I think

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<v Speaker 1>we need strong personalities and moments of uncontrolled surprise just

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<v Speaker 1>like this to make this type of thing interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so dramatic, and all the Italian fans they

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<v Speaker 2>hate Mark, you know, so they're all, you know, caught

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<v Speaker 2>in a position where they have to kind of defend

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<v Speaker 2>bet Seki. Mark rises above it all as usual and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>don't give them too much crap. He's he's young, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all young, we're all learning in front of millions of people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very emotional, like this kind of thing can happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just amazing to watch and you get it, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there was because of this an old clip surface where

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<v Speaker 2>James Hunt had a similar incident. He wrecked a car

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<v Speaker 2>and a marshall ran up to see if he was

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<v Speaker 2>okay and try and help him get off the track,

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<v Speaker 2>and James Hunt punched like, clocked the marshal in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>But to his credit, Hunt like looks down, starts to

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<v Speaker 2>walk away, and then realizes what he's done. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>turns around and gives the marshal a huge hug and

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<v Speaker 2>they walk off like arm in arms.

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<v Speaker 1>Bros. That would never happen with women on so many loves,

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<v Speaker 1>but this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you not think do you not think it would?

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<v Speaker 1>Women won't physically fight and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>be friends.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because dudes do that. That's that's that's bros.

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<v Speaker 2>That's standard operating.

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<v Speaker 3>That's easier.

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<v Speaker 1>But my point is, obviously these guys are running on

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<v Speaker 1>so high levels of adrenaline and testosterone when they're in

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<v Speaker 1>their sport doing their sport, especially racing at that high level,

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<v Speaker 1>that like you can't just turn it off off. The

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<v Speaker 1>emotions run high. This is this is why, like when

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<v Speaker 1>something bad happens, they're obviously still all hyped up on

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<v Speaker 1>adrenaline and testosterone. It reminds me of something that Total

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf told me, which was something like, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to lie in behind the steering wheel, you can't expect

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<v Speaker 1>a puppy dog outside of the car. True, it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work if you want someone who's extremely aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I think we were exceptional.

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<v Speaker 2>You were talking to him about the car. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're one hundred percent right. I remember when he told

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<v Speaker 2>you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's and it's so true. I'm not excusing bad behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I kind of get it. And also I've

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<v Speaker 1>been watching you've been watching NASCAR clips. I've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>clips of Dennis Rodman for the past week.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know why, Like somehow my algorithm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just obsessed with Dennis Rodman right now. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just love his attitude. I just love it. He He's

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<v Speaker 1>the classic example of it's the most difficult ones that

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<v Speaker 1>have the most to give. And I have a big

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<v Speaker 1>soft spot for people who have so much spirit they

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<v Speaker 1>just you just need to channel it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not disagree, right, I do not disagree. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to the cars we're driving. Because you sent you sent

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<v Speaker 2>me a picture. I thought you were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>driving the M two, the BMWM two this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting that in like a week. Okay, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>that in a week or so.

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<v Speaker 2>You sent me a picture of a gorgeous Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 1>US even it took my breath away slightly.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>So? This is the twenty twenty six Mercedes AMG SL

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three S Performance. I hate all of their naming things,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's basically an SL sixty three in light moss green,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a ten thousand dollars option.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, it's worth every penny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so pretty. It's not a racing green. It's not teal,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the perfect it's not all of It's a true

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<v Speaker 1>light moss green with black NAPA interior, red contrast stitching

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<v Speaker 1>carbon fiber trim. It's got the red badging for the

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<v Speaker 1>AMG SL sixty three S E Performance line. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a convertible.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so is this not the same car that was

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<v Speaker 2>your choice for Car of the Year last year?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the convertible version of my favorite car of

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<v Speaker 1>the year last year.

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<v Speaker 2>So no wonder you took a short answer.

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<v Speaker 1>To your question I guess I still stand by my

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<v Speaker 1>choice from last year and I had. It's been like

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<v Speaker 1>basically a year since I've been in this model. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a convertible version, and you know what, I'm sticking

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<v Speaker 1>with my choice. It's so I'm smiling. I'm just smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so great.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have driven the slick Top, not the Cabrio,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was in love with it as well. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like so much power, I think it happens, yes, so

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<v Speaker 2>much torque. It's like, I don't know, fifteen hundred newton

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<v Speaker 2>meters or over one thousand pound feet of torque.

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<v Speaker 1>One forty seven according to the specs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like driving it is an absolute pleasure. It

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<v Speaker 2>does feel kind of heavy. Steering is a little heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not find that to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I mean that in a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe solid is a better word.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, very precise, but confidence inspiring.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think like everything inside works perfectly. The touch screen,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there aren't buttons and knobs as much as

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like. You have to go into touch screens, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not like barely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do the best infotainment basically set up that

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<v Speaker 2>there is. It's a giant screen, right, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>large iPad size.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I wouldn't say giant, it's it's there. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>large ish, but it's not giant. It's at your easy

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<v Speaker 1>fingertip within reach. Everything is easy. I sinked my bluetooth

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<v Speaker 1>in about five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that tilts. This green tilts so that you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go with a bunch of layers

0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of software. It's everything is you know, top layer options.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're sinking things and using the radio, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the number one thing, and probably the climate too is

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<v Speaker 1>the number one thing. All of that's easy. It just

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<v Speaker 1>is like a big exhale. But also it's really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>It does weigh about five pounds, so it's I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the non convertible version four and thirty nine pounds pishposh.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'm just saying like it's very heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean that's almost as much as my old

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<v Speaker 2>BMW seven sixty. But the interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, yes, and I will say compared to that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I see in my piece from last year, I did

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<v Speaker 1>note that the nine to eleven turbos weighs thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds. So yeah, it's heavier, you don't feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>And but the thing, so my issue with with this

0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.480
<v Speaker 2>car if I have any issue, because I think I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you. It's one of the best cars new

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<v Speaker 2>cars you can buy if you have unlimited funds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you have a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is it does cost like a quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars, right. What's the all in with options

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<v Speaker 2>MSRP on the model that you're driving?

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<v Speaker 1>The model I have this week, all in including the

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars paint job, the AMG Performance seats for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred a night package, driver assistance, all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand, two hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty So two thirty okay, yeah, two thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's probably not including the destination charge.

0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.919
<v Speaker 1>That is, including destination and delivery. That's all in.

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<v Speaker 3>The suggested read tail price is two hundred and eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean a couple comments that I would make

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 2>is how much was the paint The paint.

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<v Speaker 1>Was paint to be exact, was nine nine hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a funny thing I saw on Twitter this

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<v Speaker 2>week and I double checked it to be true. Portia

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:27.160
<v Speaker 2>offers a shark blue option as a PTS paint to sample. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's about fifteen thousand dollars if you wanted a

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<v Speaker 2>non GT nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an exclusive manufacturer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but Folkswagen used to offer it as a standard

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<v Speaker 2>option on a golf as cornflower blue, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure it's the same, exact same, exactly. Sure

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have mail mail pattern color blindness.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have double checked. I mean, I oh, sac

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<v Speaker 2>check with AI. So maybe it's a scoop. Yeah, fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>grand if you want it as a PTS on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the nine to eleven, three hundred dollars, if you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted it on your boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's that is. I don't like to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>for a fool.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, I guess if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 2>buying a new nine to eleven, being taken for a

0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 2>fool isn't something that bothers you. And and for A,

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.679
<v Speaker 2>it's a non GT option, so you're not buying the

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<v Speaker 2>car to flip like if you're buying a GT three

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 2>A it's less and B it doesn't matter because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna drive it, You're just gonna sell it and

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<v Speaker 2>bring a trailer. But the other thing is destination charges.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a lot of people aren't including those

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<v Speaker 2>as part of the price, but why would you not?

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<v Speaker 3>This week it's non negotiable.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's the name of the Amazon spinoff or the

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bezos company that makes the cheap pickup truck slate

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<v Speaker 2>slate right there. They have been for years saying we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come out with this super cheap pickup truck, and

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 2>it's just totally bare bones, no options, and you want

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>to you can change it up, customize it yourself, and

0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be twenty thousand dollars. Now they've come

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<v Speaker 2>out with the price in quotes right because they're not

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 2>including the destination charge. It's twenty five grand. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you put the it's going to be one thousand dollars

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:10.360
<v Speaker 2>destination charge.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll probably be fifteen hundred.

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be thirty percent more than the price

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:18.120
<v Speaker 2>they were promising us. And basically that's like you're already

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 2>could buy a Ford Maverick. So it doesn't seem to

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>be the great thing that we thought it would. And

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<v Speaker 2>but my whole point is I want people to include

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 2>destination charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Might well, I agree, you include you're not getting around it.

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 2>The cost to design it, to build it, to market it,

0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to ship it, those all should be in the price.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. I totally agree. I think I should disclose.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a tiny pivot to but on this car,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a hybrid car. We haven't talked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically saying you'll probably get around twenty nine to

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty miles per gallon equivalent combined.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, combine.

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>People still pay attention to that. I don't know, do

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 2>they I've I didn't until I got this. Well, that's

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 2>new BMW.

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>And that's new. I mean your BMW is not a hybrid, right.

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 2>No, But it's still it's like I'm lucky to get

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 2>eleven I'm lucky to get double digits miles per gallon.

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's the way territory and the prices are still.

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled up to a shell station last week and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, we're recording this on Thursday, the twenty

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 2>fifth of game Stamp. Last week, when I filled it

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 2>up for the first time, it was like six dollars

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and sixty cents for ninety three octane at the shell

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>station near me. I know that the national average for

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 2>gasoline has fallen now to below four dollars, but that's

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>for regular fuel.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>It's not in Cali, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not in Cali or in New York. It's still super high.

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>The hybrid, Yeah, they used that so that amg SL

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>sixty three s E performance. The E performance is the

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 2>giveaway that it's a hybrid and it uses like some

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<v Speaker 2>fround inspired tech.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I This is to me is a case where

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<v Speaker 1>a hybrid I'm fine with.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean me too.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>It adds weight, but like it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it. Oh, I'm okay with hybrids, as you know.

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 2>And in so many cases, yeah, I love the I

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<v Speaker 2>love the E Ray hybrid.

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>More things I think could be probably hybrid and no,

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and no one would really bat and eye.

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>And nobody would know except for uh, it makes it

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 2>much harder to repair it yourself. Right, it's one more layer.

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're not going to talk to right about right

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<v Speaker 2>to repair, not right now.

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Not right now, but you should talk about your aston Martin.

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so and and by the way, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>I think a comparison is apt between the Mercedes you're

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 2>driving and the and the Aston Martin. So I'm driving

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the Aston Martin DBS twelve Valante the convertible, the convertible version.

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 3>And we both have convertibles. Yeah, quick question.

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<v Speaker 1>How often do you drive the top down?

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<v Speaker 2>I all the time, Like I always put the top

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 2>down because I don't drive convertibles very much. And also

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a New York so you know, the weather isn't

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 2>always doesn't always allow me, so when I can, I do.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the car is as you would expect.

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, Like it's beautiful, absolutely gorgeous. The paint is

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>so deep and sparkly. The design. You know, every time

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I look at it when I walk out, I think

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I might get a James Bond. And it's also an

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>absolute joy to drive. It too, feels heavy or solid

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe is a better word, but I don't mind. The

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>acceleration is addictive, the way it sounds, the way it feels,

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the way it builds up, and the steering is heavy

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 2>and a really good way. It's totally I trust myself

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>driving it fast. The breaks are confidence inspiring, like the

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>seating position is great, the interior, the leather is beautiful,

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 2>like everything is good, except for the maintainment system is

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>just like a continued failure from Aston Martin.

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 3>And they they know that they know it, and they have.

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Come out with like they were one of the first,

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe still the only manufacturer to use car car Play

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 2>plus like the extended version of Apple's Car Play, And

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>yet every Aston Martin I get, I hook up the

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 2>phone the first day, and then the next day or

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 2>later that day, I get in the car and it

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work. And I have no idea how to get

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the car Play to work other than disconnecting my phone

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and then redoing it again. And I can't imagine the

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>anger you would experience as an owner who's paid hundreds

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 2>of thousands of dollars for a car and every time

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 2>she or he drives it, you've got to reset your

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>iPhone connection. It's it's maddening.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>It's maddening, and it's like this little gnat that keeps it.

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like kind of a small thing, but it's so

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>annoying because it's he's there. It's like this gnat that

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>is just pestering and pestering. And I remember when I

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>had the dB twelve, Uh not the convertible the coop

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and uh. In my piece, I mentioned that they had

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>integrated a center touch touch screen, which was an upgrade

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>because the dB eleven didn't have any touchscreen at all.

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, or wireless car play right, Yeah.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And to your point, Matt, it just feels like

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>these cars, I don't I don't get. They just feel

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 1>so far behind technology. They are just so far behind.

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you should never have to deal with recinking bluetooth.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>The truth is, it's such an expensive vehicle. And if

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna buy this car instead of a nine to eleven,

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>well you probably have a nine to eleven, right, or

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's got to be your third car, and.

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 3>It's definitely your third car.

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>If it's definitely if.

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I had that much money, I still would buy this

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>car because Okay, it's it's different, because yes, you know,

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>it's it's more unique. Yeah, you don't see them very often.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it makes you look twice.

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 2>It feels like such a special experience it and it

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>is like, yes, in terms of driving tech, amazing, Like

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>it's the carbon ceramic brakes are standard. It's got you know,

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred horse power, it has six hundred pound feet

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 2>of torque. It's everything. It checks every box right, It's

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>got a great transmission. It's not a dual clutch, but

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 2>it's this, it's the ZF eight speed. It's it's it's amazing.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>It's robust. But you can barely see the screen because

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>there's so much glare. There's no contrast. It's it looks

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>like boxy and uh, you know, maybe they're using sixty

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>four bit technology, you know, like my old Nintendo. I

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but let's.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Put this in really stark terms. You have a it

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>is a is a B twelve right, No, sorry, misleading,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it is misleading you call it.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I think the dB twelve they should have gone straight

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>to thirteen because it has a four leter twin turbo

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>V eight. It's an amazing motor. I have no problem

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>with the motor. It doesn't bother me that it's not

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>a V twelve. Okay, everybody I show it to in

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>my block when I say dB twelve like, oh wow,

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you're breathing twelve cylinder engine, I'm.

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, okay, so too. Okay, So even more to

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>my point, we've got two convertibles that are eight cylinder cars.

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>In fact, they're pretty much the same motive.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very very similar.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Because Aston Martin buys these motors from Mercedes. Pens Right,

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 2>So Mercedes.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Has more horse power and is actually less expensive, drives

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>arguably better, I would say, with a far superior infotainment

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>system and it costs less. Maybe you could say the

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Aston Martin is a more beautiful, more classically beautiful car.

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>It is, I might.

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Say that, but does that outweigh everything else? Well?

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, which would you choose?

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 2>So to be clear, this is the engine is directly

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 2>sourced from Mercedes. So the reason that the Mercedes that

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you're driving has more power is because of its hybrid component. Sure,

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and it has electric motors, right, This doesn't. This is

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>just a turbo charged gas motor. So if they made

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>it a hybrid, it probably would be the same, or

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 2>or they would insist that it's more. If you're going

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 2>to have a car like this as a daily driver,

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>you take the MRK every time, like it's cheaper and

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>it's easier to use. It's superior to probably live with.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>If you're going to have this car as for a

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>special occasion, you know, or to or to make a statement,

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you take the ast In because you'll never see another.

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>You rarely see another one in New York. I mean

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>obviously La London. Yeah, I do buy maybe.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>You see them, but they're more rare, certainly.

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>But the but the bottom line also is at this

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 2>price level for a new car, like very few people

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>if you, if you don't work at SpaceX, like, there

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>are hardly any people out there that are going to

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>go and drop essentially a quarter of a million bucks

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>on the murk or you know, three hundred thousand plus

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>on the on the ass ten.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they're out there.

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>They're out there for sure.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>And they probably have a Bloomberg terminal. It might be listening.

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>That's definitely.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're always told at pursuits, and I agree.

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>The real, real, the real scarcity in resources is time,

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>not money for.

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 3>A lot of our people, for our clients.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's time.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not for our listeners.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not for our listeners. But that's okay, I mean,

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I get it, it's time. It's not the money is

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>not the limiting factors.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing I think for people listening to this podcast,

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>most of people I know who listen to it, and

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 2>by the way, a lot of people listen to this podcast.

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I got so much feedback last week, What do you mean?

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Just so many people wrote, wrote to me, emailed me,

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>texted me, called me because they heard from listening to

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>this that I had gotten that new oh seven sixty,

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, wow, cool people listen. But I

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>think so. I think the the commonality of many of

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>our listeners is that they see this, they see in

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Aston Martin like this, and they are interested in care

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, and love to look at it and hear

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 2>about out drives. And then also five years later they're

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 2>shopping for it because they depreciate so significantly.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 3>There you go, right there.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Your were just doing our bit for anywhere along the

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>sales chain, well start or the middle or the end

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of it.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>And I think also, like everybody, or like a lot

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of people, I like to think about what I would

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>do if I did work at SpaceX and all of

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>a sudden I had ten million dollars. Would I buy this? No,

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>I still probably wouldn't pay three hundred and fifty thousand

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>dollars for it, And I wouldn't pay for a new

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven Turbo S And I wouldn't pay for

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that new Mercedes.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 3>I might not me because you know.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>What, I would rather go get a two thousand and

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>sixteen Acid Martin V eight Vantage with three pedals. I

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>would still I still want that depreciation. Yes, I still

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>want to be because I can have just as good

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>a time, even better with the.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Stick for sure.

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm only gonna on the on the twenty sixteen.

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm only going to spend sixty sixty five grand for

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>a sweet one.

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever actually bought a new car off the lot?

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I bought a new uh G five hundred. Oh was

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>that wagon?

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Why did you buy that new?

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Because?

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>What made it worth it to you?

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Because so? Because I bought it in twenty nineteen, right

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>when they had come out with the new generation of

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>G Wagon.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 3>And that was important.

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Unlike the purists, I did not enjoy the steering on

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 2>the old G Wagon, you know, I did not enjoy

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 2>the way the old G Wagon drove.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't call it a nimble dancer.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 2>No, But the new one I did enjoy it, and

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>so I put my order in. It took two years,

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe I ordered it at the end of eighteen. I

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>finally got it in twenty twenty. And that's also the

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>only car new ore Us that I've ever made a

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 2>profit on when I sold it.

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, no way, Yeah, so that buck the trend.

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean I saved up for years to be fair,

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and when I did buy it, I paid I don't know,

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I think one thirty or one.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 3>You actually made money on a new car purchase.

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I sold it like two years later with thirty

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand miles on it for one point fifty.

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Dude, that's really good.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, congrats, that's really really good.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Because I was going to say everything else I I

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>bought my Raptor. I bought new kind of part of

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 2>my reporting because I was doing a story on building

0:34:55.719 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>f fifties. Yeah, but that wasn't you know, a high

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>car that was affordable. At the time I bought my Raptor,

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>it was only fifty fifty eight thousand dollars sticker, and

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 2>that was when it had the six point two liters

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>V eight. That was when it was the really good Raptor.

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Did you buy that or the g Wagon thinking that

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you were going to lose money? Yes, and you're okay

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>with that?

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean a car is a depreciating asset, like

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>in my world right in not maybe not in your

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>world because you guys have so much experience I know,

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>but when you buy a car, you know you you

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 2>already have been doing this for a long time, so

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>you probably could sell one of the cars you've bought

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 2>for more than what you paid. I'd like to think

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, but I, you know, was just a normal

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>person before and so stop. I always expect appreciation on

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 2>a vehicle.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, I think, I mean, we all kind

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>of should. Anyway. That's I was going to say, I just.

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Sold my Challenger for a loss. You know, I think

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I paid sixty four for it new and I sold

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 2>it for fifty one.

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a part of me that thinks, at one point

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>we're talking like if we win a million dollars or

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>join SpaceX's investor board, whatever, that new car smell, it's

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool.

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>What would you get?

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Probably, honestly, if I was getting a new car, I

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>would probably either get one of the SL sixty three's, Honestly,

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I would seriously consider that, or a nine nine to

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:38.959
<v Speaker 1>two turbos probably really yeah, Yeah, the SL sixty three

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I get, But the turbos I do not get.

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like, well I haven't actually I haven't driven.

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, what I really want is the st but that's

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of in a different category.

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, that's where I'm with you. That's why, that's where

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm right.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, now that's that's all. If I had

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>SpaceX money, one hundred thousand dollars car now.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know it's going to appreciate right way.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.240
<v Speaker 2>That's like a nine to eleven R. You know, maybe

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 2>if I had that kind of if I had SpaceX money,

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I would definitely get an st Yes, if I could

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>get the allocation, sure, because I wouldn't want to buy

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>it flicking for a trailer. But yeah, what else do.

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 5>We have that?

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Can I can I do a venting thing?

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>You have time for event and you can talk. Then

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll get to Jim Farley. Perfect. Here's my little

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>rant for the day, and you guys can weigh in

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>on your pet peeves. Here's a pet peeve when somebody

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>parks way too close to the bumper of your classic

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Rolls Royce vehicle, when they have all the room in

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the world and they literally park, I would say, generously

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>eight inches from your bumper. And it happens to be

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a Tesla with a no elon license plate, which to

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>me is the height of stupidity and virtue signaling. That

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>just really grinds my gears.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I have a real problem with the parking issue.

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 3>Who does that?

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 2>You know you're right?

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Is it malicious or is it completely just not spatially aware.

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>It's malicious. It's it's weak on the part of the

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 2>person who does. I don't.

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. I couldn't get behind that car

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to open my trunk if I needed to.

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Not a good person.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's a good person.

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>And then on top I don't in La, it's a

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>very big deal to if you do have a Tusla,

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you got to have like an anti elon bumper sticker.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Now that I'm okay with that, I'm okay.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you just get a different car? If you're

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>driving a Tesla anyway you can afford it. It's not

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like just get swap it out.

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Like a Model three Performance or no, some random models. Okay,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 2>So it's first of all, it's the best car. It's

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 2>the best Tesla.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>It's the best good it's not there's.

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>A tireless design, it's elegant.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Get an e Tron.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's old. It's old. The person for one, the

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.720
<v Speaker 2>person it's fair to say that the person new bottom

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Model S bought it before Elon Musk was defiably.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Unclear because this person owns two Teslas.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 2>How do you know that?

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Because they live in my neighborhood.

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Okay.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been clocking this person. If I know who this

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>person is.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>If you have to Tesla's, then the bumper sticker or

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the right. Dude, you can't just no longer disc.

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 1>You can't have no Eli license plate. You've been owning

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's for years. Yeah, that's not This is just someone

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.959
<v Speaker 1>who's trying to be what they think is cool. That's

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>not okay, Just get rid of the car, dude, I

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 1>don't get it.

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, But the thing is like, if

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>you're parking, I well, I'm of two minds because I

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>think the Model S is a great a great vehicle

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and historically also.

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Historically extremely significant.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>And but I was gonna say, if you the Tesla,

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 2>the Tesla driver doesn't care if you hit her bumper

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 2>or his bumper, whereas the roles are voice driver does

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>care care.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Very much, but also show some respect for an old rules. Seriously,

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. It's not about me.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 3>It's about my car.

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm one hundred percent with you on that, But I

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 2>think it's okay for normal A normal person who bought

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 2>a Model three before Elon Musk took up the chainsaw,

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>it's fair for that person to say, I bought this

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>car before I knew it was crazy.

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I think Dan Neil actually wrote a column about that

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 2>in the Wall Street Journal, remember that, like a year ago.

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I love his writing.

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here's the other thing. And I don't actually know

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>if I myself live up to this standard that I'm

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>going to say I hold other people to. But don't

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you at least try to have a general idea about

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>any big purchases, about who's behind what you're buying. The

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>car is probably your second biggest purchase in life for

0:40:55.120 --> 0:41:01.240
<v Speaker 1>most people, So regardless of anything, you have a little

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>idea about the philosophy behind the object that you spend

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 1>money on.

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hear what you're sorry. I think before

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 2>like about two years ago, it became clear that Musk

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 2>was like gonna run around with the chainsaw, had like

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>thirteen children.

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, Like, well, he's had thirteen children for about

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty years.

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>It just wasn't really out in the open that he was,

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>so he's.

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Been talking about Mars since day one.

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's cool. That's the cool part of Elon Musk.

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>The things that he's achieved for, you know, humanity are

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.760
<v Speaker 2>still like you can't debate that, right, Am I wrong?

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you not think that's I'm not sure what your

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>point is.

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 2>I think at the time the Model S came out,

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you could be proud to buy a Tesla. You know,

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 2>at the time the Model X came out, you could

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 2>be proud to buy a Tesla that was still when

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>you're sling, you.

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Would have been proud to buy a Tesla. And no,

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and no, And this is at the I'm just gonna

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>tout my own self for a minute. I have spent

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time with Elon before people knew he.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Was who he is now, And wasn't it cool?

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>He was a very nice person. He was very nice

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>to me at that point. Obviously, I'm a reporter, so

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be on his best behavior and all

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But even then, when I could have a

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>nice conversation with him, I would not have bought a Tesla.

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Well that's because you're a car enthusiast.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 3>I love that's my own thing.

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I get it. I mean you are a big

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 2>fan of authentic quality and real materials, and it's not you.

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 3>It's just not me.

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 2>You bought like a nineteen seventy one Rolls Royce. That's

0:42:52.880 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 2>very different. That's the other end. You know who I

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 2>love spending time with and who is cool and I

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 2>liked him as long as I've known him, so for

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 2>fifteen Jim Farley. Yes, Jim Farley is a great guy.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Is that who we're gonna say?

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it is.

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>He seems pretty authentic.

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 2>It's so cool what he's been able to do. Like

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 2>his I think his like grandfather worked at Ford and

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the first car that he bought and drove across country

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 2>was a Mustang. And he worked very successfully at Lexus

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, so for the competition before he

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 2>came to run Ford. And it's just sweet that he

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>got them back to JD. Power's number one spot because

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>it's not something you can buy. It's not like car

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 2>of the Year for some mag that you know, we'll

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 2>give it to you if you put enough ads in

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 2>their book, Like you have to make better cars in

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 2>order to achieve that.

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to put a qualifier in here and

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>say it makes me uncomfortable to like speak in such

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>glowing terms of any car executive because because of journalists

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.439
<v Speaker 1>but journalistic integrity. So I'm like not going to say

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>very much glowing about anybody, but I will agree with you,

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Matt that and obviously with a grain of assault, because

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 1>he's he's incredibly smart, and he understands his audience and

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.280
<v Speaker 1>he understands who he's talking to, and so he plays

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to that of course, but you know, he can read

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the room. Anybody can. But my point is also he

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit different when you're dealing with him

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>in like in a straight interview for a story or

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>a specific future or something, because unlike a lot of

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>car other car executives, he doesn't speak in bullet points.

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>He he can articulate in a normal conversation, very high

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 1>minded ideas in a normal manner, and he doesn't speak

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:11.720
<v Speaker 1>in pullet points and he doesn't have five pr people

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>standing around him because he can't. He's unsure that he's

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>going to say the right or the wrong thing. He

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>is able to articulate exactly what he means like.

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 2>A well because it comes from the heart.

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 3>And yes, you know that is admirable.

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 2>You know he's not playing, he's not putting it on

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 2>because when he talks about the importance of forward to him,

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a family matter. Yes, when if you're fronting, then

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.399
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to be driving classic race cars because

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you could die.

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't fake you cannot fake driving, and not just driving,

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't fake racing. And that is another distinguishing factor

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 1>for Jim Farley, And you're absolutely right.

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 2>About it, like important. I remember when I was talking

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 2>to him many years ago at the LA Auto Show

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 2>about the g and it was incredibly important to him

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 2>to build a car that would get around the track

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 2>faster and as an than a portion nine to eleven

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and be a better experience. He he put the the

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 2>what do you call the flat plane crank in that car,

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>knowing that it would be difficult, right because it shakes

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the engine so much and it's hard to keep it durable,

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 2>but because he wanted that exotic experience, right, He's I'm

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 2>sure been at least part of the driving force between

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 2>keeping a manual transmission in the Mustang platform. When you

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 2>know the Camaro was canceled, the Challenger was canceled even

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 2>before it was canceled. Yes, they had a manual transmission,

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 2>but they hardly made any of them. Like, he cares

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 2>about the product for you know, for enthusiasts, even though

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 2>he's obviously running a business and here about that too,

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 2>so he's like authentic, but also of course he's a CEO. Anyway,

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 2>listen to what he told me about winning jd Powers

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 2>initial quality standards among all manufacturer, mainstream manufacturers. Let's take

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>it off, Jim. I mean, it is such an incredible feat.

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Not only coming back from the slide that you were

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 2>in to take number one the number one spot, I

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.240
<v Speaker 2>mean number two or number three would have been impressive,

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 2>but beating Toyota, beating Honda, their legendary for quality. How

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 2>did you actually achieve that?

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, it took us four years of hard work to

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 6>be an overnight success story.

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.800
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's been. It's been just an amazing culture change.

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 6>It for literally, Matt, every one of our engineers has

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.439
<v Speaker 6>been in the plant, every one of our supply chain

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 6>teams are in our suppliers. We are paying attention to

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 6>every detail. It has taken a few years to get there,

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 6>but I think it's really about the culture of putting

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 6>quality before profits before anything else. And that really is

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 6>what's exciting about this because now what I'm seeing is

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 6>the team really focusing on learn tern durability.

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>So what was it your team? Was it an employee

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 2>of labor issue? Was it you know technology? Did you

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 2>use AI? Was it factory processes?

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 2>Can you get into specifics of how you did it?

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:29.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 6>If you if you were to visit today the Rouge

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 6>plant where we make the F one fifty matt what

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 6>you would see is a whole control center around data

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 6>and quality data. So we measure the torque of every

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 6>one of our fasteners. We have AI tools for vision systems,

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 6>but most of all, it's just old fashioned hard work

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 6>of our team members all working together to pay attention

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 6>to the very small details that will make a difference

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 6>between a perfectly built four and okay built Toyota. It's

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 6>just an incredible attention to every single detail.

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, it's interesting now that we're in the

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>age of AI and we're talking about this technology killing jobs,

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 2>but it seems like in your case, it's really experienced

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:22.919
<v Speaker 2>human workers that made the big difference it did.

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 6>I have to say the process coaches, the area coaches,

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, they get up every morning they look at

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.439
<v Speaker 6>the last shifts quality data. We look at how many

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 6>vehicles are repaired, and we work that process every moment

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 6>of every day. Every employee walks into anyone on our plants,

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 6>they know exactly are we winning, are we losing yesterday

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 6>and today? Everyone is fully aware of where we stand.

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 6>We know exactly where Toyota is, we know exactly how

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 6>to you know where we need to get to beat

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.399
<v Speaker 6>Tundra and Super Duty better than any of the other

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 6>domestic competitors. And so everyone is aware exactly the quality

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 6>is coming out of our plant in any particular shift

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 6>every fifty seconds. And that is that human motivation to

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 6>pay attention to everyone. Everything is amazing. Look, we make

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 6>eighty five percent of our vehicles in the US, Matt.

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:22.879
<v Speaker 6>That means these are US factory workers versus even our

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 6>domestic competitors. They're some of the biggest importers in the US.

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.400
<v Speaker 6>We're not building these vehicles in South Korea or Japan.

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 6>These are American workers beating Toyota and Hyundai and our

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 6>domestics who import their vehicles. We beat them all with

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 6>the American workers, with the attention to detail, it's.

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.760
<v Speaker 2>An incredibly compelling narrative. I agree, of course, being at Bloomberg,

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>we're focused on the numbers and quality issues. Recalls and

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the like had dragged down profits and margins to some

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 2>extent over the past few years. Can you quantify in

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 2>dollar terms how much this will contribute to to your

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:01.399
<v Speaker 2>recovery this year?

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 6>Hundreds of millions of improvement. We're seeing our warranty coverages

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 6>come down, We're seeing our costs come down. These are

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:14.360
<v Speaker 6>all contributing to literally hundreds and hundreds of millions of

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 6>dollars of a tailwind for Ford on costs.

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 5>But we didn't stop there.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 6>We also negotiated our parts costs with our suppliers. We've

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 6>looked at all of our bill material and even our

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:29.240
<v Speaker 6>manufacturing inventory and our plants and all our manufacturing logistics costs.

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Imagine for Ford Pro it's the most important. You've got

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 2>incredible growth there, You've got double digit margins, You've got

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty percent subscription growth. Correct me if I'm wrong on

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 2>any of those numbers. How important is this for Ford

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Pro and does it change the picture at all?

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 6>Good question, I would say for Ford Pro, really what

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 6>this means Bill Ford tough really means something to our pro.

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 5>Customers on the vehicle side, But.

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:56.280
<v Speaker 6>What we're really seeing there is an obsession with long

0:51:56.400 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 6>term powertrained durability. We're testing every end two to three

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 6>hundred thousand miles with transmissions, axles, everything. So those pro

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 6>customers who use their vehicles literally ninety percent of the

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 6>day to run their business, they can not only be

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 6>happy with ninety day quality, but also five to ten

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 6>year quality. That's what it means for our pro customers.

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 2>In the pro business. I'm really interested in the subscription

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:26.879
<v Speaker 2>growth that you've seen. Can you give us targets there?

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Are you looking at even stronger growth as that business grows.

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 6>We are seeing quarter over quarter, as you said, between

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 6>thirty and forty percent growth. The margins are over eighty

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 6>percent on our growth margin side. Here's what people are buying.

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:46.880
<v Speaker 6>They're buying productivity. These vehicles, you know they run their business. Plumbers, electricians,

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 6>ambulance police, you know these customers.

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:51.840
<v Speaker 5>They use the date off the vehicles.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 6>They teach the drivers how to be easier on the brakes,

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:58.240
<v Speaker 6>to accelerate better, not to go past the speed limit.

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 6>You know, did you tells and route the vehicles efficiently

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 6>to their next job. All these productivity software tools that

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 6>we offer customers allows them to reduce their cost and

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 6>improve their uptime so their vehicles never off the road.

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:17.280
<v Speaker 6>We're now able to send them prognostics or predictive failure

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 6>of vehicle components so that their vehicles are never off

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:24.719
<v Speaker 6>the road. They can do that predictive maintenance before problem happens,

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 6>and they absolutely We're approaching a million subscriptions now for pro.

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 2>So and at a time when we see you know,

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:36.320
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred billion dollars of hyperscaler capex this year alone

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:40.839
<v Speaker 2>to build out US infrastructure, tell us what kind of

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.799
<v Speaker 2>opportunity this is for Forden and how much you're able

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 2>to participate in that in that data center build out.

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 6>Well, I have to say, in the old days we

0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:51.239
<v Speaker 6>used to look at housing. Today what we look at

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 6>is construction. The construction trades are booming, super duty transit,

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.919
<v Speaker 6>exportable power to the job site. This is what customers want.

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 6>They want new vehicles that are efficient with software. But

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 6>also what they want is storage batteries. We're now going

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 6>to be one of the biggest domestic makers of energy

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 6>storage batteries.

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 5>Now we're scaling up that plant. We actually have two plants.

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 6>We'll have twenty giga want hours of energy storage and

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 6>not only for sustainable grid and the grid reliance, but

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 6>also Hyperscalers. They're going to use our battery electric storage

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 6>batteries to run to really run our country, help run

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:36.720
<v Speaker 6>our country. Between pro and best our energy storage business,

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:38.239
<v Speaker 6>we're very well positioned.

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 5>Have you got.

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Contracts with any of these big hyperscalers, Microsoft, Amazon, Google,

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Meta that you can tell us about.

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 6>Jim, Yeah, good question. Well, we're in the middle of

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 6>building out and converting these batteries from vehicle batteries to

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 6>energy storage batteries, which are actually very different chemistry wise.

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 5>Format wide MATT.

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:04.240
<v Speaker 6>To your point, we've had literally hundreds of customers now

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:08.480
<v Speaker 6>in the contracting phase. We announced one large one edf

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 6>and they've committed about five gig WAT hours over the

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 6>course of several years now, and we're in the process

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 6>of contracting many many customers.

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 5>It's a mixed MATT.

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 6>We see sustainable grid you know, Win and solar. We

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 6>also see hyperscalers building out. They want that one hundred

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 6>percent up time on their facility. The Ford batteries are

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 6>really useful for that, so it's a mix of customers

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 6>so far.

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 2>If I mean, since we're on Bloomberg, you're talking to

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 2>every single investor on the planet, so you can share

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>financial information with us that's material. Is this the right

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 2>time to boost your EBIT target for the year.

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 6>A great question, because we're right about right about a

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.240
<v Speaker 6>quarter or two earnings.

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to give a preview.

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:58.280
<v Speaker 6>I would love to love to give everyone insight into

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 6>where we're running, but I would say, you know, good

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.240
<v Speaker 6>solid progress at Ford in our base business but also

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 6>our non vehicle business.

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 5>We're just seeing growth across the board.

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 6>Boy, I got to tell you, I love American consumers.

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 6>They absolutely love our Ford trucks. So you know, on

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 6>the sales side, you've seen two months of sales, very

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 6>strong results so far. We got out of the escape business,

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.839
<v Speaker 6>but still our sales are growing and actually I really

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 6>believe June could be a breakthrough year a month for

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 6>Ford sales, so we'll see how it ends.

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I have to say that I love watching Max first

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 2>stapp in and it's been frustrating in some races, but

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:40.360
<v Speaker 2>he's been incredible to watch. I'm rooting for you and

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Hajar getting a podium was amazing. Can you confirm that

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:45.840
<v Speaker 2>they're going to drive for you next year as well?

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 5>Well?

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:50.920
<v Speaker 6>Max has I think Isaac were in good shape. Max

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:54.719
<v Speaker 6>does have a specific in his contract around around the

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.359
<v Speaker 6>car being competitive, but I think you know he's world

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:00.759
<v Speaker 6>multiple world champion, as you said, Matt, he'll have the

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 6>option to choose that what I'm most confident and it's

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.240
<v Speaker 6>a bit of a dilemma for us, but the FIA

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 6>and the Formula One said that the Red Bull Ford

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 6>powertrain was the most powerful powertrain in the paddock. Unfortunately,

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 6>that doesn't allow us to make as many changes as

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 6>our competitors who are behind us. But I am really

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 6>proud of the four team that a brand new powertrain

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.960
<v Speaker 6>that all the competitors are struggling with. That we at

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 6>Ford were able to partner with Red Bull and give Max,

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:34.439
<v Speaker 6>multiple world champion, such a great powertrain, But we got

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 6>to put.

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 5>The whole package together.

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 6>We got a big race coming up this weekend and

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 6>we're going to do everything we can to give Max

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 6>world championship caliber powertrain power unit, and then the rest

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 6>of the team has to do the work. Boy, if

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 6>we give it to Max, he will definitely deliver. How

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:51.919
<v Speaker 6>about some of those qualifying efforts this year.

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 5>He is just amazing.

0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 2>He is amazing. And you know I was with you

0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and Lamal last year when you announced here coming back

0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 2>to the hyper Sport class in twenty twenty seven, will

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you get Max behind the wheel of that car?

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, Max has been driving a Mercedes at the

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 6>ring and you know, sure would be great to see

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 6>him in a Ford. You know, look, we won four

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 6>years in a row. We're the first American company win Lamar.

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 6>We're the only Ford American company that had a chassis

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 6>driver and an engine by an American company, Win Lamar.

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 6>We're still the only one, and we're going back next

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 6>year to win. It would be great to have Max

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 6>in the Ford hypercar. You know, I'm going to have

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:38.880
<v Speaker 6>to really put on my charm school act to get

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 6>him in that car, though, I.

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Think you can do it, Jim. I think you're you

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 2>can pull that one off. If anybody can, it's you,

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 2>all right. So that was Jim Farley talking about business,

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about to some extent, talking about AI right because

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 2>this has been a huge boon to them and a

0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 2>new unexpected tailwind to make batteries for data centers, and

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 2>talking about racing, because he does really care about racing.

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 1>That's why we love him.

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 2>What do you got going on this weekend? Anything special? Anything?

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going to a bar mitzvah on Saturday.

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 3>And I've asked all lots.

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Of Jewish thank you. I've asked my Jewish friends, like,

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been told we should give cash in increments of eighteen.

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:27.600
<v Speaker 3>I knew that the occasion. Yeah, that's so, this is

0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 3>what I've learned. Yeah, it's amazing.

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I knew that it was increments of some number.

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I'm actually really looking forward to that. I

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 1>know it's a big deal and I'm so happy for

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>our friend Milo. And yeah, and then Sunday we have

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>this big like society journalism, Society press dinner at the

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Biltmore in La that a bunch of us are going

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to for the LA Bureau. Cool excited about that too.

0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like them.

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 1>They're like little trade They're not little, but they're they're

0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>trade dinners, you know, kind of like the Oscars, but

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:01.640
<v Speaker 1>for journalists. Yeah, so not as not as good fashion,

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:03.160
<v Speaker 1>but no, it's still fun.

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I love those those things. Yeah as well.

1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:08.680
<v Speaker 3>What about you?

1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna keep driving this aston Martin to totally

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:14.200
<v Speaker 2>assess how good it is.

1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Yees, research, more research is needed.

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and we're I mean, it's possible that I have

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 2>a baby, that my wife has a baby.

1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Wait what we're in the zone.

1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, like could be today, tomorrow, Oh my god, it

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<v Speaker 2>could be any day now. So the little Miller Tana

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<v Speaker 2>number three will be the gender A boy?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Freddy? Wait? My first boy? What? Which? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that excited about that part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I come from a family of two girls, one boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Were the boys the youngest?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, it's a really nice mix.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a really nice mix.

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<v Speaker 2>My girls are like the lights of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad always said it was good he had the

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<v Speaker 1>son laugh because the girls softened him up a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then by the time you got to the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good parent.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that's true as well, because I'm the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>of four boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I often doubt like the goodness of my soul,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm just like, we were all problematic, like

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<v Speaker 2>borderline bad people, you know. And I just I feel

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<v Speaker 2>for my parents and I don't want any of that repeated.

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<v Speaker 3>So, oh, you got a good thing going.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad that I have the girl, had the

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<v Speaker 2>girls first. Yeah, because we can make a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't wait to meet Freddy. That does

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