00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, you're our presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Winecker. I'm happy you're here. And this is the beginning of the podcast. Everyone is aware of that this might be a good time to adjust the volume to a level that's comfortable for you, but maybe loud enough for all of your coworkers to hear. Just do what you need to do to make yourself, you know, comfortable, because we're going to have a nice time. I love today's guest. You'll love today's guest unless he says something you don't like, and then you'll probably go after him. And that's not my problem, that's his. It's none other than Gary Richardson. Gary, Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:26 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 00:01:28 Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've seen you. I have a very specific memory of the last time I saw you. 00:01:35 Speaker 3: It was me crossing the street from you in a car right. 00:01:38 Speaker 2: Yes, And do you remember this. I was, I think headed down I want to say Hillhurst Avenue towards sunset. You were kind of near the Vista Theater. I'm rarely aware of what's happening outside of my car, so the fact that you and I were able to make that split connection is a miracle. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was We were living in a different world. 00:02:03 Speaker 2: It was a very It's one of my last pre pandemic memories. I don't even what was it. Maybe two years ago, a year and a half for. 00:02:10 Speaker 3: So ago, Probably two years feels right, Okay. 00:02:13 Speaker 2: I feel like there were clouds in the sky and then I look over and Gary and I are waving at each other, and I'm speed speeding towards my destination. You were on foot, headed somewhere. 00:02:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I couldn't tell you where I was going because at the time I was I was a big mover and shaker at the time, So it could have been too coffee to a car to get to a meeting. You know, who knows. 00:02:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have been headed from a meeting to a meeting. There's no telling. You were right near the movie theater. Maybe there was some sort of premiere might have. 00:02:46 Speaker 3: Been catching a flick. Yeah, it is unbelievable, the things, the possibilities that that intersection offers on the. 00:02:55 Speaker 2: Conto development, absolutely a beautiful thing happening. 00:02:59 Speaker 3: There a million posters slapped up on some construction walls. 00:03:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the epicenter of posters in Los Angeles. I would say, if someone wants to see the next movie coming out on a poster, you head to the middle of Los Fela's and you know, sunset in Hollywood. It's a very confusing intersection, dangerous and then there are posters everywhere for whatever movie is coming out, whatever album releases happening. So maybe you were just there. 00:03:28 Speaker 3: Maybe I feel like it might have been around the time of like a like a Troll's World tour, and maybe it was one of those things where it's like, here's every person that's in this movie. They be in their own little poster, but we're going to put all the posters right next to each other, right kind of. 00:03:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, that Trolls seems about right, And that's that was like teetering on the edge of the pandemic, because I feel like that was like the first movie that came out, you know, not in theaters or something. Yeah, it was like have like a nine month rollout because it it wasn't allowed to be released in theater. 00:04:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. If it wasn't that, it was whichever movie had Remember that Zendaya is Meetcha. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: Oh of course I. 00:04:13 Speaker 3: Don't remember, but I know it could have been that movie because I feel like I saw that with a million posters in a Roso it's. 00:04:20 Speaker 2: Like all of these DreamWorks movies that are just voiced by the biggest celebrities in the world in the movie kind of as meaningless. 00:04:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Wow, how that happens. That's so tight. 00:04:34 Speaker 2: It's extremely cool. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: I think it's really exactly legitimately cool. I think it's legitimately cool that you could be so rich and so beloved and still make something that is absolutely disposable, like so human disposable. It's crazy. It's awesome. 00:04:52 Speaker 2: Do you when you go to see let's say you're going to see an animated movie, do you prefer the voices to be familiar or voices you not aware of who the person is. 00:05:03 Speaker 3: If they are familiar, I want to instantly be able to know who it is. I hate watching a movie and being like who the fuck is this like caterpillar? Like I know this caterpillar is, and it's like, oh right, it's like Sam Rockwall. Why couldn't I think of Sam Rockwell as a caterpillar? I hate that feeling because I if I know, I know it, but can't put my finger on it. It drives me crazy. 00:05:27 Speaker 2: I will go through half a movie and I won't know what was happening in the movie for the first like forty minutes because I'm trying to place a voice with the character and that's all I'm thinking about. Yeah, so I think I agree on that point. And I'm also really bad just in general with celebrities, like even my favorite actors, I frequently can't remember their names. So yeah, that's my ultimate nightmare. 00:05:49 Speaker 3: Do you think do you go to a lot of animated movies in the theater? 00:05:54 Speaker 2: I'm seeing every dream Works picture. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you're just a san You're just there, You're camped out, you. 00:06:01 Speaker 2: Are, regardless of quality. I just need to see a you know, a movie that was produced by a server farm somewhere in wherever that happens. 00:06:12 Speaker 3: As long as the little boy's fishing off the moon, we are there. 00:06:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, where's that movie. They need to develop a movie about that little boy. We're all curious, Yeah, like, where are his parents? 00:06:25 Speaker 3: How do he get there? 00:06:25 Speaker 2: He's fishing off the moon. 00:06:27 Speaker 3: It's clearly not the sea, you know, that's not where you go fishing. But he seems tranquil. 00:06:34 Speaker 2: They've made movies about lesser characters. Let's bring DreamWorks. Boy, that's give you a full ninety minutes. 00:06:41 Speaker 3: I don't care absolutely. 00:06:43 Speaker 2: I'll talk to Katzenberg and he's got a you know, I'm sure he's get. 00:06:47 Speaker 3: Him on the horn. 00:06:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what have you been doing in the last you know, a year and a half to two years. 00:06:57 Speaker 3: Just a quick rundown, quick rundown, nicer apartment, nicer stuff. That's kind of been my main shit. Like I want, I want better couches, I want I want nicer art on my wall. I want like real art. You know, I've been like behind a bunch of real art. 00:07:15 Speaker 2: You are sitting in front of a completely blank water. 00:07:18 Speaker 3: Because I have a big as piece of art that's getting framed. Actually, I am very uh, I'm very self conscious about this big ass blank wall, prison cell style, but got a bunch of plants. You know, I've been cooking and drinking wine and ship learning about wines and whatnot. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: This sounds lovely. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: I sound like somebody that I hate, but I like who I am, which is crazy. It's kind of fun. 00:07:43 Speaker 2: Well that's what's important. Yeah, everyone should hate you, but you should like yourself. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: I think. 00:07:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of the rule that therapists will explain. 00:07:51 Speaker 3: But like, I'm like one of the girls and heathers, you know, I'm like, oh, I'm like one of the cool heathers. 00:07:58 Speaker 2: Exactly. We all want to be a cool heather. Now this is kind of in my realm right now, because I've been living in my current place for about a year, and I think I have well I actually did hang up a couple things in a hallway recently, but then otherwise I have one thing hanging on the wall, and it's it causes me so much anxiety. I don't want to buy I want to buy art, but it's I don't even know where to begin, and art is so expensive to get something good, and it's just I don't want to just you know, there's the you know, go to goodwill and find like an old ship painting or whatever. Think I've moved a little past that, but I. 00:08:36 Speaker 3: Don't I feel that for you. I feel that where do. 00:08:39 Speaker 2: You start with art? 00:08:41 Speaker 3: I started kind of just like looking at like magazines and finding different like singings that I liked, and then like googling those artists. And then whenever you google somebody, it's like you might also be into these people, and you might be, and then just finding out like, oh, they're in these galleries and there are these art fairs all that shit, which has been like really cool to find. 00:09:03 Speaker 2: Buying contemporary art, working artists. 00:09:08 Speaker 3: Lot a working artist, a lot of them. Yeah, I do of like folks that haven't really poppy. There are people that I'm like aware of that seem to be like on the rise, which is really cool and really nice to be like, oh, they're getting their shit in museums. Now, this shit's here, this shit's there, but it is wild. 00:09:27 Speaker 2: Well that's exciting. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: It feels nice. 00:09:30 Speaker 2: Getting into music when you're a teen or something. 00:09:33 Speaker 3: Uh huh, definitely, and it's cool to be like, oh, if you would have told me as a kid when I was like sixteen that you can actually do art now and pay rent, I would have been like, get the fuck out of here, that's not real of course, I feel like I'm like, it feels insane to me, but it feels like cool that I am able to Like it feels corny to say, like support this artist or whatever, but to be able to like buy ar from somebody that's actually doing it feels cool to me. 00:10:04 Speaker 2: Oh of course. Now when you say magazines, what are we talking about? People us weekly? 00:10:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm talking like like a lot of entertainment weeklies, a lot of whatever is whatever is small enough to have seventy of them next to your toilet. That's kind of what I'm leaping through. 00:10:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, something that gets stuck to your backpack on your way through the airport. 00:10:25 Speaker 3: Uh, yes, whatever, if you have a hoarding aunt or uncle, whatever, they have every copy of That's what I'm laying my peepers on. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: No, but really, like, what magazines do you like? Are you saying? 00:10:42 Speaker 3: Art in the one that I found? This one artist, Devin straws through with this this magazine called Franchise. It's like basketball and design, like the cross section I would say of that. So it's like, here's these cool artists and here's a profile on this player, and it's really interesting. 00:11:05 Speaker 2: So I need to find a magazine that's half of that, but without the basketball half. 00:11:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean any magazine that's like big you know those like big square magazines. 00:11:16 Speaker 2: Oh sure, the ones that I like will browse at Barnes and Noble but not commit to. 00:11:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like if you get two of those, have a little place to hide them so people don't think that you're a big magazine guy, and then go through them. See what's in there? 00:11:33 Speaker 2: Right and now, so you also said a nice couch have you ordered? Have you gotten a new couch recently? 00:11:37 Speaker 3: I got a new couch recently, and I really do dig it. 00:11:41 Speaker 2: Where did you get the couch? 00:11:43 Speaker 3: I found it through a I like, got pretty into like Etsy. Okay, like just like going through a ton of different like vintage shops and different re upholsterers, and she like that on Etsy, and I found a couch that I really liked that some dude made in San Diego. I think, yeah, but what does it look like? It's just a long navy blutle like it like, it looks a little like it's not corduroy, but it has a similar effect. 00:12:12 Speaker 2: Oh, corduroy makes sense for you. 00:12:15 Speaker 3: It feels it feels right this feels right to me. 00:12:18 Speaker 2: I feel like corduroy is your fabric for some reason. 00:12:22 Speaker 3: I mean, I have a couple of cords that I love. 00:12:24 Speaker 2: I haven't worn corduroy since nineteen ninety six. 00:12:27 Speaker 3: Really now, I guess i'd been pretty tough out of the corduroy game until maybe twenty eighteen, right, and the community has welcomed me back wholeheartedly. 00:12:39 Speaker 2: It's an excellent fabric. It's a beautiful fabric. 00:12:43 Speaker 3: It's great. 00:12:44 Speaker 2: How many fabrics offer that type of texture that you know, it's really does everything. 00:12:50 Speaker 3: And it's heavy duty. It makes you feel like, okay, you know what. I am protected. I am like, hey, these pants are taking care of my legs. It's not it's like, it's fun. It is interesting to look at. You're gonna double take. I'm all about it. Yeah. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: Do you have any corduroy jackets or anything. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: I have one corduroy jacket, but I don't really like it. I don't like the I think it's a little too big. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: Oh that'll do it for me every day. Yeah, I mean, if something feels too big on me, I just am thinking. That's all I'm thinking about while I'm out in the world, my self confidence is at fifty percent. 00:13:24 Speaker 3: Yikes. Yeah, you can't be walking around with fifty confidence. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: You're you're a very stylish person. I feel like you're very that's very kind of you. Very clothing like, I feel like you have a natural sense for what clothes good? Is that true? Will you just accept that piece of information I've shared? 00:13:45 Speaker 3: I'll take it, Yeah, yeah, I'll take it in. Yeah. Absolutely. Was that something you cultivated? Oh? Absolutely? I see pigs of myself from high school when I was like trying to cultivate it, and I'm like, oh wow, I was really taking some swings, like thank god, I was doing this in Saint Louis, Missouri, Brooklyn, New York. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: Like, what what were you wearing? 00:14:05 Speaker 3: Immediately? What comes to mind? There's a picture. I don't know what school dance or school related function I was at, but I'm wearing like almost like a Malfy Coast like blue and white Gingham shirt with like these white linen pants and some white Stacey Adams loafers. I'm I feel like, no, if you see the picture, you know that it's very far from incredible. It's definitely like it's like, oh, I'm divorced, Like my wife got everything, but I'm keeping the Stacey Adams. We're hitting Italy. Yeah, I'm just like spending money on whatever. It's It was a rough site, it's rough. 00:14:49 Speaker 2: I think looking like you've been ruined financially and emotionally is a look. 00:14:54 Speaker 3: I think absolutely, And I found myself in that position often growing up, Like Okay, I feel like this is just another loss, you know, another loss, but we keep we keep coming back for more. 00:15:09 Speaker 2: Now in high school, like these outfits you were putting on, were they did you feel like your peers were into them? Or were you like standing out in a bad way in them? 00:15:19 Speaker 3: I don't think I was necessarily standing out in a bad way, but I think it was so for me to have put in the effort to try to make a mark and to be completely unnoticed in this effort was devastating, absolutely devastating. And I was also like my like, I hit puberty pretty late, so my like body was so weird. I was like real thin, long feet, and I like my like face didn't fit my head yet it was weird. Oh. 00:15:52 Speaker 2: I completely support this young Gary. I feel like this is somebody I can get behind and support doing his best with this pre puberty self. That's great. 00:16:01 Speaker 3: I think drop it out of every AP class he had. I don't need these fucking credits, Like you can keep these fucking credits. I'm not reading the yellow wallpaper. Get out of here. 00:16:12 Speaker 2: The Yellow Where are you living in New York now? 00:16:17 Speaker 3: I'm in Clinton Hill in brook Clinton Hill? Oh? 00:16:19 Speaker 2: Very nice on the. 00:16:21 Speaker 3: Like kind of like right where Clinton Hill meets Bedsty and Crown Heights. 00:16:25 Speaker 2: Oh lovely. And where were you prior to that? 00:16:30 Speaker 3: I was maybe two blocks away still in Clinton Hill, and before that up in East Williamsburg. Then I was a green Point boy for like four years, four or five years before. Oh wow. 00:16:42 Speaker 2: Interesting. And you're thinking about maybe moving to the West. Is that true? 00:16:46 Speaker 3: I think? I mean it feels imminent right now that I've like quit my job, I'm like, okay, why am I going to be here if I'm not working here? 00:16:55 Speaker 2: Do you have a preference? 00:16:56 Speaker 1: Uh? 00:16:57 Speaker 3: Not really, not really. They're both I enjoy both of them. I've got friends in both of them. 00:17:03 Speaker 2: Right, They're both kind of horrible in their own ways. 00:17:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. It's so to say, like, I like like that you can have a backyard in LA but I like the restaurants in New York more. 00:17:14 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I feel like restaurants in New York are good, but they're only around for about seven months at a time. 00:17:21 Speaker 3: Hey, and as long as you get in, that's all. I don't need to I don't need a stable. I'm not raising a family around it, you know. I'm trying to be like, Hey, this is where we go for birthdays. That's not what I'm doing. I just want one good meal. 00:17:33 Speaker 2: I will say this about New York restaurants. I feel like within the Los Angeles area, it's nearly impossible for me to find a spaghetti alamone. Really, just a spaghetti with butter and lemon, that's all I want. And some cheese. The most maybe one of the most delicious things you could possibly eat nowhere to be found in Los Angeles. 00:17:53 Speaker 3: That's madness. 00:17:55 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm looking at the wrong places, but every Italian restaurant I go to not available in New York. Essentially every Italian menus, got it. It's not a hard thing to make. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: What do you think is going on there? Is there some sort of like conspiracy or do you think what's happening. 00:18:11 Speaker 2: I can't even begin to theorize. I mean, we have more lemons here, we have all the other ingredients. It's very simple to make. 00:18:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen noodles that I think you guys still have noodles, right, I've seen. 00:18:24 Speaker 2: That occasionally you'll see a flash of a noodle here or there. Yeah, so that can't be the problem. I mean maybe there's something about New York. It's more of a dreaming thing of like the sunshine and lemons that they put it on the menu of, more of a sign of hope. 00:18:40 Speaker 3: It is an aspirational sort of yeah. 00:18:43 Speaker 2: Now, whereas in Los Angeles we're taking the citrus for granted, we're not putting it on any menu, and it's just driving me wild. I don't know what to do with it. It's my favorite Italian food. 00:18:55 Speaker 3: That's your favorite? Oh? I love it. 00:18:56 Speaker 2: It's such a It's basically like a citrus mac and cheek. 00:19:01 Speaker 3: It's I mean, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it's a fantastic dish. 00:19:04 Speaker 2: What's yours? 00:19:06 Speaker 3: Uh me? I'm a sucker for lasagna. Oh, I really do. I love this stuff. 00:19:12 Speaker 2: I love a lasagna. It's a tricky thing for me to order at a restaurant. I feel like it's a big commitment. 00:19:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like often it comes out in like its own little small cast iron, and I get kind of I really hate the idea that I can burn myself touching a thing, Like I really don't like that eve being like, Oh, I'm out at dinner and now I might burn my fucking hand because I was goofing off trying to eat this lasagna that sucks. 00:19:38 Speaker 2: Goofing with the lasania. 00:19:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you got to do stuff, And it's like, wouldn't it be fun if I did this this? Oh ship, now my hand hurts. Oh, I don't like it. 00:19:49 Speaker 2: It always looks different than everyone else's plate on the table, and suddenly I the spotlight is on me and my lasagna. 00:19:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta. You got a thing on top of a plate and like a napkin between that plate and the cast iron is like, ugh, just give me a burger. Uh? 00:20:09 Speaker 2: Do you cook it all at home? 00:20:11 Speaker 1: Uh? 00:20:11 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I've been doing it more, I guess in the past month less. But I in general am fine cooking just fine. Yeah, yeah, just fine. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like the last maybe six weeks, I like finally began to feel the weight of cooking at home, and I'm just like, I don't care how much money I'm spending on going out to eat. At this point, I just have to not eat my sad meal at home. It's too much for me. 00:20:40 Speaker 3: I feel like there's so many people that took the quarantine and got really good at cooking, and they're like, oh, we have all the gadgets and we're like soue being steaks and she's like and I'm like, that's fucking nuts. I'm like, get out of here. When did we decide we're going to all be great chefs? That's nuts, right? 00:21:00 Speaker 2: I mean I essentially, I mean I went from cooking absolutely nothing at home to cooking a few things, but learned no real skills. I mean I just basically took the few cooking things I knew and combined them in a couple of different ways. Did not develop essentially any skill during this pandemic while everybody else was going crazy? Did you develop any type of new hobby or skill? 00:21:26 Speaker 3: I got, I hope better at speaking French. Oh really? 00:21:32 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:21:32 Speaker 3: I was like working with like a tutor for a while, and I think I'm going to try to get the tutor again because it was nice to be like, no, you're saying this part of the word wrong. You sound crazy, you sound nuts. I'm like, okay, cool. Is this better than They're like, yeah, that's a little bit better. You should don't sound right. But whereas if I'm just using duo lingo or something, I'm like, yeah, I can't speak right now, I'll just type the words in right. 00:22:00 Speaker 2: Did you speak French before? 00:22:01 Speaker 3: No? I like learned a couple sentences when I like the first went out there. But now I'm sure i'd still be absolute dog shit. But maybe I'll be a little bit better. Maybe I can get like, I'm sorry, is the bathroom here instead of d you speak English? 00:22:20 Speaker 2: Can you say anything in French right now? 00:22:22 Speaker 3: Oh? I would? 00:22:23 Speaker 2: I wouldn't dare Gary please? 00:22:27 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll say uh bonjepel gali And that's that's about what I'm willing to give. 00:22:33 Speaker 2: That's a nice accent. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: Oh you even put an accent on your name. I did. 00:22:39 Speaker 2: I like when people do an accent all the way up to the name and then the name is just standard English and it's so jarring. 00:22:45 Speaker 3: Daniel yeahel Chris, all right, I guess so I guess that. Yeah, that works too. Gary. 00:22:56 Speaker 2: Now there's something else I want to talk to you about. And a little while ago you agreed to be on this podcast, and naturally I was thrilled. I was thinking maybe, you know, the last time Gary and I saw each other, I was kind of, you know, speeding down Hollywood Boulevard or Hillhurst Avenue or wherever I was, and he was doing his thing. I wanted to connect. I thought it would be nice, and so far it's been nice. But then, you know, a few days ago you emailed and said, what's your address? And I didn't know why, because you're obviously in New York. I don't know if it was just one of these situations where you wanted to look me up on street view and see what I'm working with here. But I put all of that aside because I trust you. And now here we are on the podcast, and it appears. I don't want to, you know, I don't want to make any assumptions, but it feels like you've sent me an item. 00:23:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct about it? Am I misunderstanding something? Look? 00:23:56 Speaker 2: This podcast is called I said, no gifts. We're on I don't know, episode four hundred. At this point, it's all over the trades. People are talking about it. It's just never always on the tip of everyone's tongue. People know what's happening on this podcast. 00:24:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, mom, And she was ecstatic she's learning to do backflips and she was like, if if I felt more coble, I would try to do a backflip right now. 00:24:24 Speaker 2: Your mom emailed me, she said, I heard Gary is going to be on the podcast. When am I going to be on? And I said, not happening, lady. 00:24:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's always trying to encroach on my opportunities. It's really a bummer. 00:24:36 Speaker 2: But she's your number one professional competitor. You and your mom are kind of same. 00:24:43 Speaker 3: And she books, I'm like, let me have this. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: Well, it's because she graduated from college. She put forth the effort. She said, I'm going to get this theater degree. And now you know she's in DreamWorks fish Boy. I think I believe she voices that little boy, which that's typical of Hollywood. 00:25:03 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 00:25:04 Speaker 2: All that aside, So I mean, I'm going to just assume this is a gift for me. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it is it is? 00:25:11 Speaker 2: Should I open it here on the podcast or is this something you'd like me to do privately. 00:25:17 Speaker 3: I would love to see the look on your face when you open this up. 00:25:26 Speaker 2: Let's see, I'm gonna I'm gonna get into this gift here and see what's going on and oh, what is this real? This is a wild This is a truly wild gift you've sent me. Ah, I'll just read this. A championship replica ring, Lakers ring set size eleven, in a it's in a wood box. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: This is. 00:25:58 Speaker 2: This is is this multiple ring? 00:26:00 Speaker 3: These are the five rings. These are replicas of the five ring that Kobe Bryant won, as well as a black Mamba ring symbolically for Kobe Bryant, and in a wooden box to house them. 00:26:13 Speaker 2: Why should you send me this? 00:26:16 Speaker 3: Because I think when I think of the King of Los Angeles, one name comes to mind, Bridgard. And what better way to show that you are the number one man in Tensiltown than a little something to flash when you're a palm in a fifty to the door man. You know, when you're when you're courtside at Staples Center, you and Jack just tossing back some popcorn laughing about the good old days. I think this, I think it fits for you. Yeah. I think you go out, you go to a nice steak restaurant with all five of these on, all six. I think folks are like, oh, there goes the most with this man, Yeah, there goes the man. 00:27:02 Speaker 2: Now you think I should wear all six at once at all times. 00:27:06 Speaker 3: I think any combination. I think between one and six. That's up to you, depending on like how much of a high roller you want to seem like if you want to, you can put on just one from year one. You know, you can put on the back to back ring if you'd like. I think any combination. I think if you do go all six, it has to be for a very special occasion. We're talking bridal shower, We're talking King Sanera. Yes, absolutely. I think if you wear all six on one hand, you get to dunk the baby and get the baby under as long as you want. I think that's pretty tight, and that's just the rule of church. 00:27:51 Speaker 2: I think that is old. I think that's an old testament. There's yeah about that's kind of where that whole tradition began. I want to say Leviticus. 00:28:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like never Kineszer had all six rings and he definitely was dunking some folks. I think you can do like surprise baptisms also if you wear all seats. 00:28:14 Speaker 2: I would love nothing more than to surprise baptism baptize someone run full speed at. 00:28:21 Speaker 3: S, grab their whole head, dunk them fully in water, and you get to hold them under as long as you want. That's awesome. That to me is the cool part. 00:28:32 Speaker 2: You both emerged from the water and you just say, welcome to the faith and welcome to the family. Come to the family. 00:28:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:28:43 Speaker 2: Can you well, first of all, can you name like are you a do you know what teams the Lakers want to get every one of these rings? 00:28:52 Speaker 3: Like could I name the starting lineup? No? 00:28:54 Speaker 2: Basketball wise, like in two thousand, who did the Lakers play to win a ring? 00:28:58 Speaker 3: Oh shit, I can't tell you every one of them. I know that one was over the seventy six years because I grew up a big Adam Iverson fan. Okay, sure, I will say that had to be two thousand and two. Maybe it might have been two thousand. 00:29:17 Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. So you could easily just say with confidence, yeah, so it would just be up to the podcast listener to freak out. 00:29:25 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I guess I guess by that, I'll say in two thousand it was over the Hornets and one, we'll say seventy six years, will say back to back Miami like they beat Miami like a couple of times in the finals, and we'll just say the Toronto Toronto interesting. 00:29:50 Speaker 2: Okay, Sure, I mean this goes. This show's my just general lack of knowledge. I was going to say, what about the Utah Jazz, but then I realized they're both West Coast or West Division East Western Division. 00:30:04 Speaker 3: Here we go. 00:30:05 Speaker 2: I'm, you know, nineteen ninety seven when I was locked into this sort of thing. 00:30:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I'm seeing you kind I'm seeing your eyes light up right now. You're thinking about where to put these where take these rings out? You know, like what's hand to put them on? Like, are you like a right hand on the steering wheel kind of guy? 00:30:24 Speaker 2: Or I think I'm a ten and two. I'm a tenant two at all times, so you must evenly divide these well they're six, so I can have three and three. Yeah, I like, you know, I encourage everyone to be a ten and two driver. Look, I know it's more fun to me. 00:30:40 Speaker 3: Wish I wish I could meet you there. Me, I'm in a long car, left hand at six, seat, leaned back as far as I can go. 00:30:51 Speaker 2: You're basically lying on the floor of the Yeah. 00:30:54 Speaker 3: Basically, I treat any front seat like a Delta one lounge chair, like I'm laying it all the way down, blanket over me, whatever, A and E like History drama is on there. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. 00:31:14 Speaker 2: You're just describing someone in an ambulance headed to the morgue. Hey, that's your driving. 00:31:20 Speaker 3: Hey, that ain't half bad. That ain't half bad. I'm looking to clock out as soon as I can. 00:31:27 Speaker 2: Do You like to drive? 00:31:29 Speaker 3: I do like to drive. I just bought a car out here. Oh you're kidding. 00:31:32 Speaker 2: That's a big move. 00:31:34 Speaker 3: It's so nice to have though. 00:31:36 Speaker 2: Oh well, of course, I mean everyone wants in New York. That's the ultimate luxury. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 00:31:41 Speaker 2: What sort of car did you get? 00:31:43 Speaker 3: I got a I like bought it from a friend of a friend. I was like, oh, if I'm going to move, I don't want to like get a super nice car. So I just got like a sob like a two thousand and nine. 00:31:54 Speaker 2: Sob, Oh, that's a nice that's kind of a corduroy of cars. 00:31:58 Speaker 3: A little bit. It looks nice and still runs well. I think I can keep this until I. 00:32:05 Speaker 2: Split down right, and then you're going. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: To sell them. Ran out of here, I assume. 00:32:09 Speaker 2: So why not drive it across the country. 00:32:11 Speaker 3: I've never driven across I've driven halfway across the country a few times, but never all the way. I'm terrified that and on nine SOB wouldn't make it. 00:32:21 Speaker 2: You know, with these uh European cars, I'm always a little a little worried once they get a few miles on them. 00:32:30 Speaker 3: I'm sorry having to hit some heill. We start seeing different parts of the country, you. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: Know, suddenly you're stranded at the Grand Canyon or something. 00:32:39 Speaker 3: Absolutely, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I assume you have. I haven't. Have you I have on one of my trips from Los Angeles to Chicago. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: How did you feel about it? 00:32:49 Speaker 3: It is majestic, It really is. Uh, it really is like awe inspiring. It's fucked up. It's so big and you I really couldn't believe it. And then I got this a family in all denim and the dad being the meanest man in the world. It was crazy. They were in all denim, all denim, Like the wife was in like you know how there's like if your grandma wears a T shirt to bed, how would like hit her toes? It was like that length I guess floor length one dress kind of but it was like also cinched from what I remember, so it might have it might have actually been like two pieces, like an actual like denim skirt and like a shirt that matched it. But then like the son was an au dentim, the dad was an audentim and he was just irate about something, like really really talking through his tee. It was like, this is crazy, this is spooky. 00:33:46 Speaker 2: Do you think they were there for like a family photo or something? 00:33:50 Speaker 3: Fingers crossed? You know, because the way that he was behaving. 00:33:53 Speaker 2: Why else are you in all denim? 00:33:54 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like they could have been going overboard. He's over it's not a ship, but I feel like he was in the mood to like get a couple of casualties. 00:34:05 Speaker 2: Right, this sounds like a weird kidnapping situation or something. It might have been something doesn't quite add up. You're at the Grand Canyon. Everyone's an all denim, someone's angry, there's something else going on that like the casual observers not aware of. 00:34:21 Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's a there's a story there. Yeah, there's a story there. 00:34:27 Speaker 2: Now you you were impressed by the Grand Canyon. My concern is that it's going to be so big that it won't really register in my mind as a canyon, and I'll think, Oh, that's just nice looking. 00:34:36 Speaker 3: Oh, this is just the end of the world. This is the world stops here and the world starts over there, right. I think I think you should check it out. I think I really did. It's I was really like, I don't want to stop at the Grand Canyon. This shit's gonna suck. I don't give a fuck about this. And I was like, Oh my god, this is just this just happened. This is the world happening. 00:35:00 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:35:01 Speaker 3: I really was like, I don't think I've seen anything else that affected me like that, where I was like, I can't believe it. 00:35:08 Speaker 2: So do you think because I do think it it feels like something you see on the way to something else. So, but the way you're describing it, is it something that's worth just making a trip for. 00:35:19 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. Maybe probably a ton of folks do. 00:35:25 Speaker 2: Oh, of course, but a ton of folks do a bunch of dumb stuff. 00:35:29 Speaker 3: That's real. 00:35:30 Speaker 2: Most of things that happen are done by a lot of people who are idiots. Yeah, but let's be honest. I mean the Grand This is the Grand Canyon. I feel like it is kind of objectively beautiful piece of mother nature. So maybe this is one thing that a lot of people do correctly. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe don't maybe wait to have like a three day weekend and be like fuck it, let's go. Maybe they don't like plan it. You maybe don't plan like a whole weekend around it, but spur the moment we've got time. 00:35:58 Speaker 2: What else is around the Grand Canyon? 00:36:00 Speaker 3: Is this? 00:36:00 Speaker 2: Like? 00:36:02 Speaker 3: I think after that, I think that night we were able to make it too. I forget what town, but some small shitty casino and money. It was fun. I mean, I like casino though. I like to gamble. 00:36:15 Speaker 2: What sort of gambling do you do? 00:36:16 Speaker 3: I'll do any kind of gambling. 00:36:19 Speaker 2: Wow, money gambling. 00:36:21 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Garry, I hate to hear this sort of thing. Yeah, I've lost a fair amount of money game, but there's been times when I've like won a bunch of money and been like, oh my fucking goud, I'm the man for the listener. 00:36:34 Speaker 2: Gary just held up a sheet of paper that said three hundred thousand dollars on it. So that's just he's not he wasn't going to share. But I feel like you should know Gary Richardson has lost essentially a nice. 00:36:46 Speaker 3: Home to the Yeah. Absolutely, and i'd say a down payment in one of these coastal towns. 00:36:52 Speaker 2: But oh yeah, but Midwest, you could have got. 00:36:55 Speaker 3: A nice Lewis. Oh my god, five bed, four bath, great school district. Yeah, that's the kind of And. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: Some gambling tycoon is just swimming through your money. 00:37:09 Speaker 3: Just some fucking fat cat is just eating it up, putting like gold foil on ice cream or something with my money. 00:37:20 Speaker 2: Gary wants it back. 00:37:21 Speaker 3: I want it back, and I'm going to get it back the only way I know how. Well. 00:37:26 Speaker 2: You're going to join up with me with all these rings on my fingers. Yeah, I'll be ready to go to Vegas and bust some skulls. 00:37:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll. I think those rings are going to get us some respect down there. They respect a man with rings down there. 00:37:40 Speaker 2: Do you wear any type of jewelry. 00:37:42 Speaker 3: I have some jewelry. I don't wear any jewelry too regularly. I've got like me and my brother have like these like singing it rings that like are matching. That's nice, it is, I don't wear it off, and I've got like for a while, I was like, I've been I'm gonna get into pearls and that's going to be some shit. That's cool. So having a couple of pearl necklaces, like not string of pearls. I've got one string of parl but like a few different pearl necklaces and like a bracelet. But I don't wear anything often. 00:38:15 Speaker 2: Okay, well that seems fine. I don't really it's that I don't wear any jewelry. I guess I wear a watch, but that's it. I don't know that that really counts as jewelry. 00:38:23 Speaker 3: Do you take the time when your watch? 00:38:26 Speaker 2: Oh? Of course I checked the time constantly. It's become kind of a compulsion. 00:38:29 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:38:29 Speaker 2: I really only bought the watch because when I'm sitting in a movie theater, I need to know how long the movie is, and I don't want to look at my phone. So I specifically got a watch so I can soothe my mind. Like probably thirty five minutes into the movie, I'm wondering, is it almost over? And then I look at my watch and I think, oh lord, I've got another hour to an hour and a half of this. 00:38:55 Speaker 3: And so you got to just start going to those movie theaters where the people kind of scurry across with a check right like ten minutes before the movie's over, you. 00:39:04 Speaker 2: Know, wait, like like a restaurant theater. 00:39:07 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, like is it like Alamo draft House where it's like Alamo right, like six people just like running across, Like, Okay, I guess, I guess we're almost done here. 00:39:17 Speaker 2: I've been to Alamo once. It was when they just opened in I think it's in Fort Green in Brooklyn, and the service was all over the map. Like I probably had waiters come up to me six times offering me the nachos. I was like, I didn't order anything. Yeah, please leave me alone. I assume they've worked out that bug. 00:39:39 Speaker 3: I can't speak for all of them. I'll say the last and that I went to an Alamo draft House unreal. I said I wanted a nice tea fifteen twenty minutes later, just slamming down the biggest nice tea you've ever seen in your fucking life, right in front of me, and I smashed it. I drink it like I was a child, and then I had to paste so bad like so it was like it was like I didn't have a stomach or like any other organ. It was just like I went straight through immediately. I was like, I've got to piss so bad. 00:40:10 Speaker 2: You just look down and you have peed your pants just in a wet theater seat. 00:40:14 Speaker 3: Because I'm not gonna I'm not going to miss any of the movie. That's out of the question. That's out of the question. Yeah, no fucking chance. 00:40:22 Speaker 2: I will always say, like the few times I've broken and had to run at to pee during a movie, I'll come back and be like, I don't feel like I missed anything. I was gone. It feels like you're gone for a long time, but then you come back and you're like, oh, I got that wasn't that long. 00:40:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like, I guess a lot of this movie doesn't need to be in here. I guess this movie could be twenty five minutes. I think that's probably true for eighty percent of movies. Yeah, like, oh this is pretty, but unnecessary. I guess it's cool. Yeah, he did some more backflips here. That's unnecessary though. That's the big guy and that's the bad guy, and this guy's going to kill that guy. And I'm like, oh, I got it. That makes sense. 00:41:00 Speaker 2: I can handle this for the most part. Yeah, I don't know, Gary. I feel like we should play a game. Do you want to play a. 00:41:07 Speaker 3: Game absolutely that's like sawce style. 00:41:11 Speaker 2: Or yeah, say it again, oh saw style? Absolutely you If you don't win this game, you, I mean, this is your life on the line. 00:41:20 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I want to have my ribcage ripped out of my stomach. 00:41:24 Speaker 2: Like your left ear. Yeah. Do you want to play a game called Gift or a Curse or a game called Gift Master? And I will tell you how we play once you pick the game. 00:41:35 Speaker 3: Okay, I will play Gift or Curse. 00:41:40 Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:41:43 Speaker 3: Let's go four. Four. 00:41:46 Speaker 2: That's a nice See. This shows that you're a thoughtful person. Four is like a rarely picked number. And uh, I have to do some light calculating. I have to find the game pieces. So right now, you can you really have the micro to do whatever you want. You can promote something, you can recommend something, you can say hi to your mom, whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:42:07 Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. I'll say I don't really want to promote anything. I don't really want to say hi to anybody. I'll say, oh, I've been wearing No, I don't want to tell about that. Right now, sitting next to me, I'm looking at at a green candle. Green candle, it's not a scented candle at all. I've got. I've got a little vase next to it with flowers. Then we're looking at us. 00:42:42 Speaker 2: I really appreciated what you did with the time there. 00:42:45 Speaker 3: Hey, I and I pray that your listeners get something out of you. 00:42:50 Speaker 2: I think they will. Yeah, nothing else. People's lives have been enriched. And I also feel like, you know, the gameless promotions you just you know, unbearable. 00:43:03 Speaker 3: If there's one thing that I'm going to do, it's look out for number one. All right, that's time and time again. I will make sure that people know who I am and where to find me at all times. That's my that's my thing. 00:43:17 Speaker 2: That's kind of what I tell people about you. Yes, do you know about Gary? 00:43:21 Speaker 3: And they say, we know what don't we know about them? That's constantly fucking posting. He's cont me in your face. If it's not it's not on Instagram, it's on Twitter. If it's not on Twitter, it's on like serious, and it's like, come on. 00:43:34 Speaker 2: The emails, reminding people to check out your Twitter, your Instagram. 00:43:39 Speaker 3: My wee blye. Uh yeah, all of it. 00:43:42 Speaker 2: You're texting me, your tiktoks. It's uh, it's a lot, but it's been effective for you. 00:43:48 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's where it's got me. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: Look where it's gotten you. I mean time and time again. You make these decisions and they lead to success. And so it's kind of the Gary method. 00:43:59 Speaker 3: That's why to look out over all of Brooklyn from my penthouse. 00:44:03 Speaker 2: You're in that clock tower. You're in the clock tower in Fort Green, just admit it. Yeah, that overlooks the target. 00:44:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. I bought it, and I got it a discount because I change the time every hour. That's my dad. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: You kind of become a clockmaker. 00:44:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sort of like a bit of a I don't know what it's. I don't know what large scale tinkering is. That's kind of my shit now. 00:44:29 Speaker 2: Every few minutes you're up there kind of moving the arms, frantically, scrambling around. 00:44:34 Speaker 3: And I know for a fact there's some poor soul out there right now chasing their dreams and they're like, Okay, I don't want to get here too early. I can't get there too late. And I feel a personal responsibility. 00:44:46 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. You know, you've taken on a responsibility and we all respect it. Gary. This is how gift or a curse works. I'm going to name three things you have to tell me if there are a gift or a curse, and why there are correct answers, so you know, you could walk away with zero points and then it just is such a horrible day for you, and then that leads into maybe a horrible week or month, and then you know, you know how this happens. Life's disintegrate. Yeah, anyway, Number one, and these are all listeners suggestions, by the way, so I can't be blamed for anything. I mean, this is kind of a you know, both of our hands are clean situation. But Number one, gift or a curse. People who show up and then haggle about Craigslist deals. Gift or a curse. 00:45:31 Speaker 3: I'm going to say I want to say that's a gift. Why Because I believe if they're haggling, you get to haggle too. So you wanted to Let's say that you wanted to move seventeen bricks for fifteen dollars and they show up and they're trying to get you for ten bucks. Before you know it, you're willing and daling. Now you've moved six bricks for forty five dollars. Usually got bricks to push. And I think that I think you can. I think if you are, if your business acumen is where it should be and where it could be with the advent of YouTube and business books these days, I think you can definitely swing beans in your favor. 00:46:14 Speaker 2: Gary. That is so excellently argued, so beautifully put. I am going to say you've got it wrong, and I'm going to say this. You know they are a curse. And it's because these people show up and suddenly you're haggling, and then that's leading to conversation. You're getting to know each other and no matter what, they're going to leave, it's good. You're going to be heartbroken, you're going to there's a chance you fall in love with this person and suddenly you know it has to end. So you know, we all know that like every great relationship begins with haggling, you know, someone trying to kind of rip off the other person or underpay them, and then you get to know the person and their weaknesses and maybe their financial background, and you fall for each other and this person ultimately is going to leave you. 00:46:58 Speaker 3: Curse to that. I only say, does it have to end? 00:47:02 Speaker 2: Absolutely? That's the Craigslist law. It's either they leave or they murder you. 00:47:08 Speaker 3: Gotcha. 00:47:08 Speaker 2: You know, we all know the Craigslist killer kind of a two thousand and nine. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: But to be slain by your lover, isn't that what we're all working for? Yeah? 00:47:17 Speaker 2: It does prove that you mean so much to them. 00:47:20 Speaker 3: I mean so much that somebody is willing to absolutely eat your insides in your house. I think that's beautiful. I think that's absolutely beautiful. 00:47:35 Speaker 2: I don't care. 00:47:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're still not getting the point. Gary, Okay, well hey I'll take the loss. I'll take the loss on that one. Thank you. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: I appreciate that you're you're going to do this the tasteful way. I know you love haggling, and this. 00:47:51 Speaker 3: Just proves We'll just see how jealous you are when my funeral is closed casket, because my face has been absolutely roy by somebody looking to pick up queen size uh mattress pad. 00:48:09 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to be at that closed casket funeral and there are going to be two hands covered in rings prying open your casket to get one final look, and it'll be. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: Me that I was pretending this guy he's not. He's not dismembered, he was not murdered. He is normal. Look, yeah, he is just my mother faints. 00:48:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, always trying to get attention away from you. That's what your mom is up to. 00:48:40 Speaker 3: Absolutely Okay. 00:48:41 Speaker 2: Number two, this is a listener named Haley has written in Gift to a curse Starbucks inside grocery stores, So not you know, not a free standing Starbucks, but one that's kind of nestled within your ralphs, within your vons, et cetera. 00:49:01 Speaker 3: That to me is absolutely a curse. Uh because I'm never going there for the Starbucks. I am going there for groceries and grocery stores, I guess by design for some reason, I think that I think the fatal flaw with grocery stores is that there's no trash cans in it. There's like open trash cans. That's so true. 00:49:23 Speaker 2: They don't want you throwing away the groceries. 00:49:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want to be like, oh these eggs, I actually don't want these eggs trash. Oh this like ice cream trash. So you're walking around with like you've got a buggy full of shit, and now you've got a fucking hand that's wet with condensation from some huge frappuccino. And now you're and now you're like having to like put that in the crook of your arm and other ship flipping. Now you look and you're ruining other people's time, And I think that is devastating. That's fucked up. It's fucked up. Honestly, I think we should annex Seattle for even don't I'm I said, I wasn't going to go on a tirade about the Northwest. I'm not going to go on to tirade about the Northwest. 00:50:15 Speaker 2: I begged you pre podcast, please, Gary, don't you just leave the Northwest alone? 00:50:21 Speaker 3: Did these motherfuckers have a wall filled with gum? You want me to be silent? 00:50:26 Speaker 2: It was an hour of just you and I going back and forth on the phone. Just I tried to get you to sign a contract. Please just leave it. B But here we are and you're freaking out about the Northwest. 00:50:38 Speaker 3: But I'm going to be chilled no more Northwest talk than me. 00:50:42 Speaker 2: So curse with Starbucks. Curse you got the point, of course, I mean, what are we even talking about with the Starbucks. It's confusing. It always looks like a kind of a black hole within the grocery store. Yeah, I don't trust you know, Starbucks has a hard enough time doing it on their own, then they put it in the grocery store. I don't trust that that coffee is going to be any anything. 00:51:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:51:04 Speaker 2: I mean I did have a driver's ed teacher who all of our destinations driving were to take her to grocery stores so she could go to Starbucks and get a coffee, which is an interesting. 00:51:16 Speaker 3: I like that a lot. I like that a lot. 00:51:19 Speaker 2: That's a fond memory of a Starbucks within a grocery store. But other than that, I yeah, I don't want the big wet thing in my hand, and I know it's not going to taste good. 00:51:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's always at the entrance, right, It's always at the entrance. Never like in the middle. 00:51:36 Speaker 2: It makes us that grocery store feel like an airport. 00:51:39 Speaker 3: Groceries for grocery stores, right. 00:51:41 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm glad that two people have finally been able to say it. Thank you listener Hayley for bringing this to my attention. Finally we have another ah. Listener Hannah has said gift he a curse soft pretzel and then in parentheses salted. I kind of assumed they were all salted. 00:52:00 Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, I think you've got to be pretty fucking psycho to get an unsalted pretzel. 00:52:07 Speaker 2: But this is a salted one, so she's wondering salted. 00:52:12 Speaker 3: So I guess like even in making the salt, I'm figuring that we're judging judging this against an unsalted pretzel. So I'm gonna have to say gift. I'm gonna have to say gift simply because it would be so disrespectful to order a pretzel, to order a salt pretzel and to be given bread that is unsalted. That would be I would be fucking irate. I would lose my mind. And I'm I'm screaming, I'm standing up, I'm asking for the manager. I'm saying, hey, here, I'm gonna fight somebody today. I'm gonna I'm gonna put I'm gonna physically put my hands on somebody and I'm going to grab their head and I'm gonna squeeze as hard as I can until liquid comes out of you know. And the thing is, I don't even I don't even need it to be like thin and like running liquid, any sort of like any any kind of viscosity I'm happy with, but I need some sort of excretion from the head. If I get a funny about order a pretzel and it comes without salt, this. 00:53:21 Speaker 2: All happens in a flash. The pretzel touches your hand and suddenly you are true crushing the skull of Yes, you know, an Anti employee or what's what's another pretzel? We had pretzel time at my local mall, but I don't know that was a national chain. 00:53:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we had Anti Ann's. We had There's another thing that I'm thinking of. I think I'm thinking of a different one besides Anti Canna. 00:53:41 Speaker 2: I can I feel like there is another major pretzel maker that I cannot picture who Anti Anne is kind of overshadowed at this point, which, yeah, a tragedy. I would you know I would eat an Anti Enns pretzel maybe once a shift when I was working at the Apple store. You get a fifteen minute break, I'm down in a pretzel. Yeah, it's not a healthy thing to be doing. But back to the game. You said it's a gift. 00:54:06 Speaker 3: I think the gift absolutely well. 00:54:08 Speaker 2: Gary, you got one out of three. I think they're a curse a salted pretzel. Of course they taste wonderful, but really, whenever I'm wandering through a mall at this point, there's never a good time to be eating one of these things. It's almost a meal, but it's not quite like. It's just a very hard thing for me. I almost need to schedule a time to go get one of these things, and I can't do that when am I supposed to eat one? 00:54:32 Speaker 3: When you're sitting on the massage chair. You're sitting on a massage chair in the walkway entrance of some like electronics store, and you're sitting there and you're having the little balls go up and down your bag. That's when you just you get to unplug, and you get to pick each little, each big as piece of salt off of your pretzel and just kind of like set it on your mouth and feel that, and then destroy the pretzel. 00:55:08 Speaker 2: And destroy the massage chair with your greasy hands. 00:55:10 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and then you pop one into Journeys or Spencer's two, you know, or if. 00:55:17 Speaker 2: You are describing a dream trip to them all for me, I. 00:55:20 Speaker 3: Mean yeah, I mean, like best case scenario, you get to go to all two before you get a phone call that your ride is outside. You get to go in and actually like see if these people at hot topic like worship the Devil. You're like, what's going on here? This feels bad this because like everything here is black and red. Everything here is black and red, and you just get to like see how the other half lives. 00:55:45 Speaker 2: That's you know, you've done an excellent job with all of these with trying to convince me, and that's never going to work. That happens you lose the game thirty three percent. Okay, that's just a failing grade. 00:55:57 Speaker 3: Hey, that sucks. That sucks. But we will get back up and we will soldier on. 00:56:04 Speaker 2: That's all you can do. 00:56:07 Speaker 3: You know. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: This is the part of the podcast where it's called I Said No Emails, and people are writing into I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. Every one of them has a question about gifts or you know, social situations, this kind of thing. Gary, I need you to help me answer something. Will you please? 00:56:25 Speaker 3: How much longer? How many of these are we talking about? I've got about fifty pages, so if we could just go through twenty YEA, yeah, that's nothing? Yeah? 00:56:32 Speaker 2: Easy, okay, perfect? I mean I am sending dinner to your house. We'll just work through the night that I can do. Yeah, okay, Well let's get started then. This first one says hello to Bridger and guest. This question is not about giving a gift, but about receiving gifts. A lot of people in my life are not the best gift givers. Despite having a registry full of reasonably price items that I wanted and needed, we received baskets full of mismatched pillows and disposable forks from Walmart when I got married. I'm boxing up the items I just received. Is this rude? I fear that when my mother in law comes over and doesn't notice the live laugh Love sign on the wall, she's going to be offended. But I just can't put that in my house. Am I obligated to hold on to these things? Thank you? That's from Sarah in Alabama. Sarah and Alabama. Sounds like the people in her life may just despise her. They're sending her disposable forks, yeah, from Walmart for her wedding. 00:57:29 Speaker 3: That's an active aggression, that is real. Is I think that. I think you gotta sage it. Get it out of the house, a sat as soon as humanly possible, get that out of there. That's gonna Yeah, you're gonna want to be if they're sending disposable forks, they're not looking for the live laugh love. They're not They're not a walking representation of that. 00:57:55 Speaker 2: You know. That's I mean, I've I've never heard of something like does these people? I mean, but I mean also, maybe Sarah, take a look in the mirror. What behavior are you exhibiting that the people in your life are saying, let's send her a box of plastic forks for her wedding? 00:58:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, Because if you're out here constantly putting on backyard barbecues and pool parties, then maybe that's an actually really thoughtful gift, and then you actually don't need this Vita Max, you know, right? And I also encourage you to ask yourself, what's the reason to be priced, because if they're sending forks, it's probably because they want to get forks. You know, it would be it would be insane to be to buy somebody a gift set of plastic forks when you could get them anything else. 00:58:49 Speaker 2: Truly, anything else A Snickers, yes, you know, for a wedding. I will take a box of total cereal before a plastic forks. So, uh, you know, Sarah, I You know it's often said we don't always get what we want, but we sometimes get what we need. And maybe these forks or exactly what you needed, but maybe they're not. Maybe your life is just so chaotic and you're bringing all these poisonous people in, and you know, you're surrounding yourself with people who just couldn't care less if you live or die. Yeah, there's a lot going on here that we don't know. And there's a mother in law who apparently is extremely sensitive about the garbage that she gives you, which could be you know, your partner's problem. 00:59:37 Speaker 3: What she needs to do is get herself a couple replica NBA championship rings, start flashing those get some fucking respect. 00:59:46 Speaker 2: Yes, it's the way you act the way you behave is you'll get that back in the way people treat you. Yes, And she's just going around with these naked fingers, just expecting people to give her things beyond a plastic fork, and of course it's not working. 01:00:02 Speaker 3: In today's after the summer we've had, come on, that's insane behavior. You can't do that. 01:00:09 Speaker 2: At this point, everyone should have a minimum six rings on their fingers at all times. At least they should be replicas of you know, an NBA championship rings. Yeah, pick your favorite team, go for it. Yeah, you know, I feel like six rings. What is it that You've got the Lakers, You've got maybe the Bulls. Who what other teams have this many rings? 01:00:33 Speaker 3: You've got your San Antonio Spurs. 01:00:36 Speaker 2: The Spurs, so you've got options. 01:00:38 Speaker 3: You've got options. 01:00:39 Speaker 2: So, I mean, the fact that Sarah even wrote in is a little embarrassing for her grow up right now. She drags her family and friends through this, yeahen, Ultimately she's kind of the problem. 01:00:53 Speaker 3: There's some poor sucker in Alabama right now, like, oh, I think she actually liked the disposable forts. And then he hears this podcast on the news and he's like, hold up, what are you fucking kidding me? I spent everything I had on those works. I gave everything I could. I gave everything I could, and I'm getting dragged through the mud. Oh. 01:01:20 Speaker 2: I mean you imagine the scenario. You give your sister a law some nice plastic forks, she invites you over for dinner. You bite into your meal and you notice that it's a metal fork you're eating off of. How are you supposed to get to the rest of the meal? 01:01:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, now my teeth have all cracked and fall out of my head. Wild unbelievable. 01:01:41 Speaker 2: Gary, We don't need to do the next twenty five pages. We I mean, we did such an excellent job with Sarah. We nailed her problem almost absolutely. We took her to task. Is that what people say? 01:01:52 Speaker 3: You take someone a task? 01:01:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we gave her some you know, if she needed to hear. 01:01:58 Speaker 3: All of that. Yeah, absolutely that she's gonna hate, Like, just know that saying that hurt us more than it hurt her. 01:02:05 Speaker 2: And it hurt the listeners, you know. You know, we've got forty million listeners at a time. Here. Suddenly she's she's damaged a large part of the worldwide populace. People now have to spend the rest of their day thinking about Sarah's greed. 01:02:20 Speaker 3: Now she's canceled. She'll never be president, She'll never she'll never hold public office, no way. 01:02:28 Speaker 2: Why everyone and everyone hates her. Yeah, it's such a shame, Sarah. Thanks for writing in. You know, you know, I hope you can pick up the pieces and move on in some way. 01:02:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, like maybe they just step back listen for a while, just listen. 01:02:47 Speaker 2: Do the work, yeah, kind of, you know, just publicly donate to your favorite charity. Yes, you know, you've got to get out there and rehab your image ASA immediately. This is gonna cost thousands of dollars a month in PR fees, but it's gonna be ultimately worth it. I mean, that's that was the risk you took when you wrote into the podcast, That's all. 01:03:10 Speaker 3: I mean. 01:03:10 Speaker 2: Everyone takes a risk. Sometimes it pays off. Sometimes it kind of levels your life and that's fine. 01:03:18 Speaker 3: But you live, you live, you live, or you die, your choice, you know, Yeah, it's your call. Gary. 01:03:28 Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled I've now have these six gorgeous rings that I'm gonna be able to kind of just you know, saunter around town, go to business meetings, pound desks, yes, you know, eat sandwiches, iron my shirts, the amount of things you can do with rings on your fingers. I'm gonna be lifting weights, Yeah, I'm gonna. 01:03:52 Speaker 3: Be you know, put for you. You can you wear those you go to the Staples Center, you can probably make a couple of trades. I'll probably sign a couple of folks. I think I think the world's about to open up for you in a way that is pretty enviable. 01:04:09 Speaker 2: The next time you see me waving from my car, pay close attention to what's on my hands, because it's it's going to be some dazzling rings and it's going to leave you kind of just in a state of disarray. 01:04:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:04:23 Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time with you and I'm so glad to see you. This is just wonderful. And hopefully the listener isn't too angry with you. You know, started off the podcast. I warned them, Yeah, but I think we made it through. 01:04:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, And if they are angry, sue me, you know, lawyer rep and sue me, trycause class action. 01:04:44 Speaker 2: I feel like this is class action. 01:04:46 Speaker 3: For sure. 01:04:48 Speaker 2: People will get done with Sarah. They're going to come after Gary, that's fine. 01:04:52 Speaker 3: That's fine. I welcome the hate. I welcome the hate. 01:04:55 Speaker 2: That's my life, Gary Richardson, welcome the hate. Listener. This is the end of the podcast, and you have to now make some big decisions about what the rest of your life looks like. I want you to be careful. I want you also to have an exciting time, something fulfilling. Do whatever you want, maybe at least have a decent dinner, do what you need to do. Come back next week we'll continue to grow all together. Goodbye. I Said No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend Anna Lisa Nelson, and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do considering everything I do for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to miderl dot com, slash ads. 01:06:11 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guest, your presences presents enough, and I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me?