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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Winecker. I'm

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Speaker 2: happy you're here. And this is the beginning of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Everyone is aware of that this might be a good

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Speaker 2: have a nice time. I love today's guest. You'll love

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Speaker 2: today's guest unless he says something you don't like, and

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Speaker 2: then you'll probably go after him. And that's not my problem,

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Speaker 2: that's his. It's none other than Gary Richardson. Gary, Welcome to.

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Speaker 2: I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've seen you. I have

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Speaker 2: a very specific memory of the last time I saw you.

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Speaker 3: It was me crossing the street from you in a

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Speaker 2: Yes, And do you remember this. I was, I think

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Speaker 2: headed down I want to say Hillhurst Avenue towards sunset.

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Speaker 2: You were kind of near the Vista Theater. I'm rarely

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was We were living in a

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Speaker 2: It was a very It's one of my last pre

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Speaker 2: pandemic memories. I don't even what was it. Maybe two

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Speaker 3: So ago, Probably two years feels right, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there were clouds in the sky and

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Speaker 2: You were on foot, headed somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I couldn't tell you where I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have been headed from a meeting to

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Speaker 3: Been catching a flick. Yeah, it is unbelievable, the things,

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Speaker 3: There a million posters slapped up on some construction walls.

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Speaker 2: Like all of these DreamWorks movies that are just voiced

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Speaker 2: Do you when you go to see let's say you're

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Speaker 2: that's my ultimate nightmare.

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Speaker 3: Do you think do you go to a lot of

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing every dream Works picture.

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Speaker 2: Are, regardless of quality. I just need to see a

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Speaker 3: As long as the little boy's fishing off the moon,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where's that movie. They need to develop a movie

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Speaker 3: How do he get there?

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Speaker 2: He's fishing off the moon.

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Speaker 3: It's clearly not the sea, you know, that's not where

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Speaker 2: They've made movies about lesser characters. Let's bring DreamWorks. Boy,

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Speaker 3: I don't care absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Just a quick rundown, quick rundown, nicer apartment, nicer stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of been my main shit. Like I want,

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Speaker 3: I've been like behind a bunch of real art.

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Speaker 2: You are sitting in front of a completely blank water.

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Speaker 3: Because I have a big as piece of art that's

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Speaker 2: This sounds lovely.

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Speaker 3: I sound like somebody that I hate, but I like

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Speaker 2: Well that's what's important. Yeah, everyone should hate you, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of the rule that therapists will explain.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. We all want to be a cool heather. Now

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Speaker 2: Think I've moved a little past that, but I.

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Speaker 2: You start with art?

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Speaker 3: I started kind of just like looking at like magazines

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Speaker 2: Buying contemporary art, working artists.

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Speaker 3: Lot a working artist, a lot of them. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Well that's exciting.

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Speaker 3: Like it feels corny to say, like support this artist

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Speaker 2: Oh of course. Now when you say magazines, what are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm talking like like a lot of entertainment weeklies,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something that gets stuck to your backpack on your

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Speaker 3: Uh, yes, whatever, if you have a hoarding aunt or uncle, whatever,

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Speaker 2: No, but really, like, what magazines do you like? Are

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Speaker 3: Art in the one that I found? This one artist,

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Speaker 3: Devin straws through with this this magazine called Franchise. It's

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Speaker 3: like basketball and design, like the cross section I would

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Speaker 3: say of that. So it's like, here's these cool artists

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Speaker 3: and here's a profile on this player, and it's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: So I need to find a magazine that's half of that,

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Speaker 2: but without the basketball half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean any magazine that's like big you know

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Speaker 2: Oh sure, the ones that I like will browse at

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Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble but not commit to.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, but what does it look like? It's

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Speaker 2: It's an excellent fabric. It's a beautiful fabric.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it, Yeah, yeah, I'll take it in. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Was that something you cultivated? Oh? Absolutely? I see pigs

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Speaker 2: Now in high school, like these outfits you were putting on,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I was necessarily standing out in a

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Speaker 2: I completely support this young Gary. I feel like this

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Speaker 3: I think drop it out of every AP class he had.

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Speaker 3: I don't need these fucking credits, Like you can keep

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Speaker 3: these fucking credits. I'm not reading the yellow wallpaper. Get

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Speaker 2: The Yellow Where are you living in New York now?

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Speaker 3: I'm in Clinton Hill in brook Clinton Hill? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Like kind of like right where Clinton Hill meets Bedsty

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Speaker 2: Oh lovely. And where were you prior to that?

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Speaker 3: I was maybe two blocks away still in Clinton Hill,

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Speaker 2: Interesting. And you're thinking about maybe moving to the West.

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Speaker 3: I think? I mean it feels imminent right now that

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Speaker 2: Do you have a preference?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Not really, not really. They're both I enjoy both of them.

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Speaker 3: I've got friends in both of them.

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Speaker 2: Right, They're both kind of horrible in their own ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. It's so to say, like, I like

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I feel like restaurants in New

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Speaker 3: Hey, and as long as you get in, that's all.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to I don't need a stable. I'm

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Speaker 3: to be like, Hey, this is where we go for birthdays.

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Speaker 3: That's not what I'm doing. I just want one good meal.

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Speaker 2: I will say this about New York restaurants. I feel

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Speaker 2: me to find a spaghetti alamone. Really, just a spaghetti

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Speaker 2: with butter and lemon, that's all I want. And some cheese.

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Speaker 2: The most maybe one of the most delicious things you

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Speaker 3: That's madness.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: wrong places, but every Italian restaurant I go to not

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Speaker 2: It's not a hard thing to make.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is going on there? Is there

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Speaker 2: I can't even begin to theorize. I mean, we have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen noodles that I think you guys still

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Speaker 2: That occasionally you'll see a flash of a noodle here

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Speaker 3: It is an aspirational sort of yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, whereas in Los Angeles we're taking the citrus for granted,

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Speaker 2: It's my favorite Italian food.

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Speaker 3: That's your favorite? Oh? I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's such a It's basically like a citrus mac and cheek.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you.

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Speaker 2: What's yours?

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Speaker 3: Uh me? I'm a sucker for lasagna. Oh, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I love a lasagna. It's a tricky thing for me

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like often it comes out in

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Speaker 2: Goofing with the lasania.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you got to do stuff, And it's like,

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Speaker 2: It always looks different than everyone else's plate on the table,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta. You got a thing on

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Speaker 3: plate and the cast iron is like, ugh, just give

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Speaker 3: me a burger. Uh?

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Speaker 2: Do you cook it all at home?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I just have to not eat my sad meal at home.

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Speaker 2: It's too much for me.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's so many people that took the

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Speaker 3: I'm like, get out of here. When did we decide

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Speaker 3: we're going to all be great chefs? That's nuts, right?

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Speaker 2: I mean I essentially, I mean I went from cooking

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Speaker 2: Did you develop any type of new hobby or skill?

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Speaker 3: I got, I hope better at speaking French. Oh really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was like working with like a tutor for a while,

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Speaker 3: you're saying this part of the word wrong. You sound crazy,

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Speaker 3: you sound nuts. I'm like, okay, cool. Is this better

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Speaker 3: than They're like, yeah, that's a little bit better. You

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Speaker 3: right now, I'll just type the words in right.

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Speaker 2: Did you speak French before?

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Speaker 3: No? I like learned a couple sentences when I like

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Speaker 3: the first went out there. But now I'm sure i'd

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Speaker 3: still be absolute dog shit. But maybe I'll be a

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Speaker 3: little bit better. Maybe I can get like, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Can you say anything in French right now?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I would?

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't dare Gary please?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll say uh bonjepel gali And that's that's about

440
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: what I'm willing to give.

441
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: That's a nice accent.

442
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: Oh you even put an accent on your name. I did.

443
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: I like when people do an accent all the way

444
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: up to the name and then the name is just

445
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: standard English and it's so jarring.

446
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 3: Daniel yeahel Chris, all right, I guess so I guess that. Yeah,

447
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 3: that works too. Gary.

448
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 2: Now there's something else I want to talk to you about.

449
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: And a little while ago you agreed to be on

450
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: this podcast, and naturally I was thrilled. I was thinking maybe,

451
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, the last time Gary and I saw each other,

452
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 2: I was kind of, you know, speeding down Hollywood Boulevard

453
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: or Hillhurst Avenue or wherever I was, and he was

454
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: doing his thing. I wanted to connect. I thought it

455
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: would be nice, and so far it's been nice. But then,

456
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, a few days ago you emailed and said,

457
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: what's your address? And I didn't know why, because you're

458
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: obviously in New York. I don't know if it was

459
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: just one of these situations where you wanted to look

460
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: me up on street view and see what I'm working

461
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: with here. But I put all of that aside because

462
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: I trust you. And now here we are on the podcast,

463
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: and it appears. I don't want to, you know, I

464
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: don't want to make any assumptions, but it feels like

465
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: you've sent me an item.

466
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct about it? Am I misunderstanding something? Look?

467
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: This podcast is called I said, no gifts. We're on

468
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, episode four hundred. At this point, it's

469
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: all over the trades. People are talking about it. It's

470
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: just never always on the tip of everyone's tongue. People

471
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: know what's happening on this podcast.

472
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, mom, And she was ecstatic she's learning to do

473
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: backflips and she was like, if if I felt more coble,

474
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: I would try to do a backflip right now.

475
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: Your mom emailed me, she said, I heard Gary is

476
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: going to be on the podcast. When am I going

477
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: to be on? And I said, not happening, lady.

478
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's always trying to encroach on my opportunities. It's

479
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: really a bummer.

480
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: But she's your number one professional competitor. You and your

481
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: mom are kind of same.

482
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: And she books, I'm like, let me have this.

483
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: Well, it's because she graduated from college. She put forth

484
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: the effort. She said, I'm going to get this theater degree.

485
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: And now you know she's in DreamWorks fish Boy. I

486
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: think I believe she voices that little boy, which that's

487
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: typical of Hollywood.

488
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

489
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: All that aside, So I mean, I'm going to just

490
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: assume this is a gift for me.

491
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it is it is?

492
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: Should I open it here on the podcast or is

493
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: this something you'd like me to do privately.

494
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: I would love to see the look on your face

495
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: when you open this up.

496
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Let's see, I'm gonna I'm gonna get into this gift

497
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: here and see what's going on and oh, what is

498
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: this real? This is a wild This is a truly

499
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: wild gift you've sent me. Ah, I'll just read this.

500
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: A championship replica ring, Lakers ring set size eleven, in

501
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: a it's in a wood box.

502
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: This is.

503
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: This is is this multiple ring?

504
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: These are the five rings. These are replicas of the

505
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: five ring that Kobe Bryant won, as well as a

506
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: black Mamba ring symbolically for Kobe Bryant, and in a

507
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: wooden box to house them.

508
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Why should you send me this?

509
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: Because I think when I think of the King of

510
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, one name comes to mind, Bridgard. And what

511
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 3: better way to show that you are the number one

512
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: man in Tensiltown than a little something to flash when

513
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: you're a palm in a fifty to the door man.

514
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: You know, when you're when you're courtside at Staples Center,

515
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: you and Jack just tossing back some popcorn laughing about

516
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: the good old days. I think this, I think it

517
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: fits for you. Yeah. I think you go out, you

518
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: go to a nice steak restaurant with all five of

519
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: these on, all six. I think folks are like, oh,

520
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: there goes the most with this man, Yeah, there goes

521
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: the man.

522
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: Now you think I should wear all six at once

523
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: at all times.

524
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: I think any combination. I think between one and six.

525
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: That's up to you, depending on like how much of

526
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: a high roller you want to seem like if you

527
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: want to, you can put on just one from year one.

528
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: You know, you can put on the back to back

529
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: ring if you'd like. I think any combination. I think

530
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: if you do go all six, it has to be

531
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: for a very special occasion. We're talking bridal shower, We're

532
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: talking King Sanera. Yes, absolutely. I think if you wear

533
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: all six on one hand, you get to dunk the baby

534
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: and get the baby under as long as you want.

535
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty tight, and that's just the rule

536
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: of church.

537
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: I think that is old. I think that's an old testament.

538
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: There's yeah about that's kind of where that whole tradition began.

539
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: I want to say Leviticus.

540
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like never Kineszer had all six rings

541
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: and he definitely was dunking some folks. I think you

542
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: can do like surprise baptisms also if you wear all seats.

543
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: I would love nothing more than to surprise baptism baptize

544
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: someone run full speed at.

545
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: S, grab their whole head, dunk them fully in water,

546
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: and you get to hold them under as long as

547
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: you want. That's awesome. That to me is the cool part.

548
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: You both emerged from the water and you just say,

549
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: welcome to the faith and welcome to the family. Come

550
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: to the family.

551
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

552
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: Can you well, first of all, can you name like

553
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: are you a do you know what teams the Lakers

554
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: want to get every one of these rings?

555
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: Like could I name the starting lineup? No?

556
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: Basketball wise, like in two thousand, who did the Lakers

557
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: play to win a ring?

558
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 3: Oh shit, I can't tell you every one of them.

559
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: I know that one was over the seventy six years

560
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: because I grew up a big Adam Iverson fan. Okay, sure,

561
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: I will say that had to be two thousand and two.

562
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: Maybe it might have been two thousand.

563
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. So you could easily just

564
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: say with confidence, yeah, so it would just be up

565
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: to the podcast listener to freak out.

566
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I guess I guess by that, I'll say

567
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: in two thousand it was over the Hornets and one,

568
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: we'll say seventy six years, will say back to back

569
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: Miami like they beat Miami like a couple of times

570
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: in the finals, and we'll just say the Toronto Toronto interesting.

571
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Sure, I mean this goes. This show's my just

572
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: general lack of knowledge. I was going to say, what

573
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: about the Utah Jazz, but then I realized they're both

574
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: West Coast or West Division East Western Division.

575
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: Here we go.

576
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm, you know, nineteen ninety seven when I was locked

577
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: into this sort of thing.

578
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I'm seeing you kind I'm

579
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: seeing your eyes light up right now. You're thinking about

580
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: where to put these where take these rings out? You know,

581
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: like what's hand to put them on? Like, are you

582
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: like a right hand on the steering wheel kind of guy?

583
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: Or I think I'm a ten and two. I'm a

584
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: tenant two at all times, so you must evenly divide

585
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: these well they're six, so I can have three and three. Yeah,

586
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: I like, you know, I encourage everyone to be a

587
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: ten and two driver. Look, I know it's more fun

588
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: to me.

589
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: Wish I wish I could meet you there. Me, I'm

590
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: in a long car, left hand at six, seat, leaned

591
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: back as far as I can go.

592
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: You're basically lying on the floor of the Yeah.

593
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: Basically, I treat any front seat like a Delta one

594
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: lounge chair, like I'm laying it all the way down,

595
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: blanket over me, whatever, A and E like History drama

596
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: is on there. Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

597
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: You're just describing someone in an ambulance headed to the morgue. Hey,

598
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: that's your driving.

599
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: Hey, that ain't half bad. That ain't half bad. I'm

600
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: looking to clock out as soon as I can.

601
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Do You like to drive?

602
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: I do like to drive. I just bought a car

603
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: out here. Oh you're kidding.

604
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: That's a big move.

605
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: It's so nice to have though.

606
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Oh well, of course, I mean everyone wants in New York.

607
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: That's the ultimate luxury.

608
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

609
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: What sort of car did you get?

610
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: I got a I like bought it from a friend

611
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: of a friend. I was like, oh, if I'm going

612
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: to move, I don't want to like get a super

613
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: nice car. So I just got like a sob like

614
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: a two thousand and nine.

615
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: Sob, Oh, that's a nice that's kind of a corduroy

616
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: of cars.

617
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: A little bit. It looks nice and still runs well.

618
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: I think I can keep this until I.

619
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: Split down right, and then you're going.

620
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: To sell them. Ran out of here, I assume.

621
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: So why not drive it across the country.

622
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: I've never driven across I've driven halfway across the country

623
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: a few times, but never all the way. I'm terrified

624
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: that and on nine SOB wouldn't make it.

625
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: You know, with these uh European cars, I'm always a

626
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: little a little worried once they get a few miles

627
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: on them.

628
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry having to hit some heill. We start seeing

629
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: different parts of the country, you.

630
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: Know, suddenly you're stranded at the Grand Canyon or something.

631
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I assume

632
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: you have. I haven't. Have you I have on one

633
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: of my trips from Los Angeles to Chicago.

634
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: How did you feel about it?

635
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: It is majestic, It really is. Uh, it really is

636
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: like awe inspiring. It's fucked up. It's so big and

637
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: you I really couldn't believe it. And then I got

638
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: this a family in all denim and the dad being

639
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: the meanest man in the world. It was crazy. They

640
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: were in all denim, all denim, Like the wife was

641
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: in like you know how there's like if your grandma

642
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: wears a T shirt to bed, how would like hit

643
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: her toes? It was like that length I guess floor

644
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: length one dress kind of but it was like also

645
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: cinched from what I remember, so it might have it

646
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: might have actually been like two pieces, like an actual

647
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: like denim skirt and like a shirt that matched it.

648
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: But then like the son was an au dentim, the

649
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 3: dad was an audentim and he was just irate about something,

650
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: like really really talking through his tee. It was like,

651
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: this is crazy, this is spooky.

652
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: Do you think they were there for like a family

653
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: photo or something?

654
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: Fingers crossed? You know, because the way that he was behaving.

655
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: Why else are you in all denim?

656
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like they could have been going overboard.

657
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: He's over it's not a ship, but I feel like

658
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: he was in the mood to like get a couple

659
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: of casualties.

660
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: Right, this sounds like a weird kidnapping situation or something.

661
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: It might have been something doesn't quite add up. You're

662
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: at the Grand Canyon. Everyone's an all denim, someone's angry,

663
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: there's something else going on that like the casual observers

664
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: not aware of.

665
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's a there's a story there. Yeah, there's a

666
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: story there.

667
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: Now you you were impressed by the Grand Canyon. My

668
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: concern is that it's going to be so big that

669
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: it won't really register in my mind as a canyon,

670
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: and I'll think, Oh, that's just nice looking.

671
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: Oh, this is just the end of the world. This

672
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: is the world stops here and the world starts over there, right.

673
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: I think I think you should check it out. I

674
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: think I really did. It's I was really like, I

675
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: don't want to stop at the Grand Canyon. This shit's

676
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: gonna suck. I don't give a fuck about this. And

677
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh my god, this is just this

678
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: just happened. This is the world happening.

679
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

680
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: I really was like, I don't think I've seen anything

681
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: else that affected me like that, where I was like,

682
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

683
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: So do you think because I do think it it

684
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: feels like something you see on the way to something else. So,

685
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: but the way you're describing it, is it something that's

686
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: worth just making a trip for.

687
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. Maybe probably a ton of folks do.

688
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: Oh, of course, but a ton of folks do a

689
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: bunch of dumb stuff.

690
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 3: That's real.

691
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: Most of things that happen are done by a lot

692
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: of people who are idiots. Yeah, but let's be honest.

693
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean the Grand This is the Grand Canyon. I

694
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: feel like it is kind of objectively beautiful piece of

695
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: mother nature. So maybe this is one thing that a

696
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: lot of people do correctly.

697
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe don't maybe wait to have like a three

698
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 3: day weekend and be like fuck it, let's go. Maybe

699
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: they don't like plan it. You maybe don't plan like

700
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: a whole weekend around it, but spur the moment we've

701
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: got time.

702
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: What else is around the Grand Canyon?

703
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: Is this?

704
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: Like?

705
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: I think after that, I think that night we were

706
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: able to make it too. I forget what town, but

707
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: some small shitty casino and money. It was fun. I mean,

708
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: I like casino though. I like to gamble.

709
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: What sort of gambling do you do?

710
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: I'll do any kind of gambling.

711
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: Wow, money gambling.

712
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Garry, I hate to hear this sort of thing. Yeah,

713
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: I've lost a fair amount of money game, but there's

714
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: been times when I've like won a bunch of money

715
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: and been like, oh my fucking goud, I'm the man

716
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: for the listener.

717
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: Gary just held up a sheet of paper that said

718
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars on it. So that's just he's

719
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: not he wasn't going to share. But I feel like

720
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: you should know Gary Richardson has lost essentially a nice.

721
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: Home to the Yeah. Absolutely, and i'd say a down

722
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: payment in one of these coastal towns.

723
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, but Midwest, you could have got.

724
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: A nice Lewis. Oh my god, five bed, four bath,

725
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: great school district. Yeah, that's the kind of And.

726
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: Some gambling tycoon is just swimming through your money.

727
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Just some fucking fat cat is just eating it up,

728
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: putting like gold foil on ice cream or something with

729
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: my money.

730
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: Gary wants it back.

731
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: I want it back, and I'm going to get it

732
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: back the only way I know how. Well.

733
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: You're going to join up with me with all these

734
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: rings on my fingers. Yeah, I'll be ready to go

735
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: to Vegas and bust some skulls.

736
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll. I think those rings are going to

737
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: get us some respect down there. They respect a man

738
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: with rings down there.

739
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: Do you wear any type of jewelry.

740
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: I have some jewelry. I don't wear any jewelry too regularly.

741
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: I've got like me and my brother have like these

742
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: like singing it rings that like are matching. That's nice,

743
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: it is, I don't wear it off, and I've got

744
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: like for a while, I was like, I've been I'm

745
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: gonna get into pearls and that's going to be some shit.

746
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: That's cool. So having a couple of pearl necklaces, like

747
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: not string of pearls. I've got one string of parl

748
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 3: but like a few different pearl necklaces and like a bracelet.

749
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: But I don't wear anything often.

750
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Okay, well that seems fine. I don't really it's that

751
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: I don't wear any jewelry. I guess I wear a watch,

752
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: but that's it. I don't know that that really counts

753
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: as jewelry.

754
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: Do you take the time when your watch?

755
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: Oh? Of course I checked the time constantly. It's become

756
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: kind of a compulsion.

757
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh.

758
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: I really only bought the watch because when I'm sitting

759
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: in a movie theater, I need to know how long

760
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: the movie is, and I don't want to look at

761
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: my phone. So I specifically got a watch so I

762
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: can soothe my mind. Like probably thirty five minutes into

763
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: the movie, I'm wondering, is it almost over? And then

764
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: I look at my watch and I think, oh lord,

765
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: I've got another hour to an hour and a half

766
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: of this.

767
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: And so you got to just start going to those

768
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: movie theaters where the people kind of scurry across with

769
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: a check right like ten minutes before the movie's over, you.

770
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: Know, wait, like like a restaurant theater.

771
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, like is it like Alamo draft House

772
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: where it's like Alamo right, like six people just like

773
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: running across, Like, Okay, I guess, I guess we're almost

774
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: done here.

775
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: I've been to Alamo once. It was when they just

776
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: opened in I think it's in Fort Green in Brooklyn,

777
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: and the service was all over the map. Like I

778
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: probably had waiters come up to me six times offering

779
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: me the nachos. I was like, I didn't order anything. Yeah,

780
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 2: please leave me alone. I assume they've worked out that bug.

781
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: I can't speak for all of them. I'll say the

782
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 3: last and that I went to an Alamo draft House unreal.

783
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: I said I wanted a nice tea fifteen twenty minutes later,

784
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: just slamming down the biggest nice tea you've ever seen

785
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: in your fucking life, right in front of me, and

786
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: I smashed it. I drink it like I was a child,

787
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: and then I had to paste so bad like so

788
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: it was like it was like I didn't have a

789
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: stomach or like any other organ. It was just like

790
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: I went straight through immediately. I was like, I've got

791
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: to piss so bad.

792
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: You just look down and you have peed your pants

793
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 2: just in a wet theater seat.

794
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: Because I'm not gonna I'm not going to miss any

795
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: of the movie. That's out of the question. That's out

796
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: of the question. Yeah, no fucking chance.

797
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: I will always say, like the few times I've broken

798
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: and had to run at to pee during a movie,

799
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: I'll come back and be like, I don't feel like

800
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: I missed anything. I was gone. It feels like you're

801
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: gone for a long time, but then you come back

802
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, I got that wasn't that long.

803
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like, I guess a lot of this

804
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: movie doesn't need to be in here. I guess this

805
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: movie could be twenty five minutes. I think that's probably

806
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: true for eighty percent of movies. Yeah, like, oh this

807
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: is pretty, but unnecessary. I guess it's cool. Yeah, he

808
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: did some more backflips here. That's unnecessary though. That's the

809
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: big guy and that's the bad guy, and this guy's

810
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: going to kill that guy. And I'm like, oh, I

811
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: got it. That makes sense.

812
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: I can handle this for the most part. Yeah, I

813
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: don't know, Gary. I feel like we should play a game.

814
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: Do you want to play a.

815
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Game absolutely that's like sawce style.

816
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: Or yeah, say it again, oh saw style? Absolutely you

817
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: If you don't win this game, you, I mean, this

818
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: is your life on the line.

819
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I want to have my ribcage ripped out

820
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: of my stomach.

821
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: Like your left ear. Yeah. Do you want to play

822
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: a game called Gift or a Curse or a game

823
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: called Gift Master? And I will tell you how we

824
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: play once you pick the game.

825
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I will play Gift or Curse.

826
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you.

827
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: Let's go four. Four.

828
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: That's a nice See. This shows that you're a thoughtful person.

829
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Four is like a rarely picked number. And uh, I

830
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: have to do some light calculating. I have to find

831
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: the game pieces. So right now, you can you really

832
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: have the micro to do whatever you want. You can

833
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: promote something, you can recommend something, you can say hi

834
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: to your mom, whatever you want. I'll be right back.

835
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. I'll say I don't really want to

836
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: promote anything. I don't really want to say hi to anybody.

837
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: I'll say, oh, I've been wearing No, I don't want

838
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: to tell about that. Right now, sitting next to me,

839
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: I'm looking at at a green candle. Green candle, it's

840
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 3: not a scented candle at all. I've got. I've got

841
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: a little vase next to it with flowers. Then we're

842
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: looking at us.

843
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: I really appreciated what you did with the time there.

844
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: Hey, I and I pray that your listeners get something

845
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: out of you.

846
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: I think they will. Yeah, nothing else. People's lives have

847
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: been enriched. And I also feel like, you know, the

848
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: gameless promotions you just you know, unbearable.

849
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: If there's one thing that I'm going to do, it's

850
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: look out for number one. All right, that's time and

851
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: time again. I will make sure that people know who

852
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 3: I am and where to find me at all times.

853
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: That's my that's my thing.

854
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I tell people about you. Yes,

855
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: do you know about Gary?

856
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: And they say, we know what don't we know about them?

857
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 3: That's constantly fucking posting. He's cont me in your face.

858
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: If it's not it's not on Instagram, it's on Twitter.

859
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: If it's not on Twitter, it's on like serious, and

860
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: it's like, come on.

861
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: The emails, reminding people to check out your Twitter, your Instagram.

862
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: My wee blye. Uh yeah, all of it.

863
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: You're texting me, your tiktoks. It's uh, it's a lot,

864
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: but it's been effective for you.

865
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's where it's got me.

866
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: Look where it's gotten you. I mean time and time again.

867
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: You make these decisions and they lead to success. And

868
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: so it's kind of the Gary method.

869
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: That's why to look out over all of Brooklyn from

870
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: my penthouse.

871
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: You're in that clock tower. You're in the clock tower

872
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: in Fort Green, just admit it. Yeah, that overlooks the target.

873
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I bought it, and I got it a discount

874
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: because I change the time every hour. That's my dad.

875
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: You kind of become a clockmaker.

876
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sort of like a bit of a I

877
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: don't know what it's. I don't know what large scale

878
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: tinkering is. That's kind of my shit now.

879
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Every few minutes you're up there kind of moving the arms, frantically,

880
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: scrambling around.

881
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: And I know for a fact there's some poor soul

882
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: out there right now chasing their dreams and they're like, Okay,

883
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to get here too early. I can't

884
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: get there too late. And I feel a personal responsibility.

885
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. You know, you've taken on a responsibility

886
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: and we all respect it. Gary. This is how gift

887
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: or a curse works. I'm going to name three things

888
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: you have to tell me if there are a gift

889
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: or a curse, and why there are correct answers, so

890
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: you know, you could walk away with zero points and

891
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: then it just is such a horrible day for you,

892
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: and then that leads into maybe a horrible week or month,

893
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: and then you know, you know how this happens. Life's disintegrate. Yeah, anyway,

894
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: Number one, and these are all listeners suggestions, by the way,

895
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: so I can't be blamed for anything. I mean, this

896
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: is kind of a you know, both of our hands

897
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: are clean situation. But Number one, gift or a curse.

898
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: People who show up and then haggle about Craigslist deals.

899
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: Gift or a curse.

900
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: I'm going to say I want to say that's a gift.

901
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: Why Because I believe if they're haggling, you get to

902
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: haggle too. So you wanted to Let's say that you

903
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: wanted to move seventeen bricks for fifteen dollars and they

904
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: show up and they're trying to get you for ten bucks.

905
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: Before you know it, you're willing and daling. Now you've

906
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: moved six bricks for forty five dollars. Usually got bricks

907
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: to push. And I think that I think you can.

908
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: I think if you are, if your business acumen is

909
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: where it should be and where it could be with

910
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: the advent of YouTube and business books these days, I

911
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: think you can definitely swing beans in your favor.

912
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: Gary. That is so excellently argued, so beautifully put. I

913
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: am going to say you've got it wrong, and I'm

914
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: going to say this. You know they are a curse.

915
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: And it's because these people show up and suddenly you're haggling,

916
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: and then that's leading to conversation. You're getting to know

917
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: each other and no matter what, they're going to leave,

918
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: it's good. You're going to be heartbroken, you're going to

919
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: there's a chance you fall in love with this person

920
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: and suddenly you know it has to end. So you know,

921
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: we all know that like every great relationship begins with haggling,

922
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: you know, someone trying to kind of rip off the

923
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: other person or underpay them, and then you get to

924
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: know the person and their weaknesses and maybe their financial background,

925
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: and you fall for each other and this person ultimately

926
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: is going to leave you.

927
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: Curse to that. I only say, does it have to end?

928
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely? That's the Craigslist law. It's either they leave or

929
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: they murder you.

930
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

931
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: You know, we all know the Craigslist killer kind of

932
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: a two thousand and nine.

933
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: But to be slain by your lover, isn't that what

934
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: we're all working for? Yeah?

935
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: It does prove that you mean so much to them.

936
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: I mean so much that somebody is willing to absolutely

937
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: eat your insides in your house. I think that's beautiful.

938
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely beautiful.

939
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: I don't care.

940
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're still not getting the point. Gary, Okay, well

941
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: hey I'll take the loss. I'll take the loss on

942
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: that one. Thank you.

943
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you're you're going to do this the

944
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: tasteful way. I know you love haggling, and this.

945
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: Just proves We'll just see how jealous you are when

946
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: my funeral is closed casket, because my face has been

947
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 3: absolutely roy by somebody looking to pick up queen size

948
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 3: uh mattress pad.

949
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to be at that closed casket funeral

950
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: and there are going to be two hands covered in

951
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: rings prying open your casket to get one final look,

952
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: and it'll be.

953
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 3: Me that I was pretending this guy he's not. He's

954
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: not dismembered, he was not murdered. He is normal. Look, yeah,

955
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: he is just my mother faints.

956
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, always trying to get attention away from you. That's

957
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: what your mom is up to.

958
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely Okay.

959
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: Number two, this is a listener named Haley has written

960
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: in Gift to a curse Starbucks inside grocery stores, So

961
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: not you know, not a free standing Starbucks, but one

962
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: that's kind of nestled within your ralphs, within your vons,

963
00:48:59,520 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 2: et cetera.

964
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: That to me is absolutely a curse. Uh because I'm

965
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: never going there for the Starbucks. I am going there

966
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: for groceries and grocery stores, I guess by design for

967
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 3: some reason, I think that I think the fatal flaw

968
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: with grocery stores is that there's no trash cans in it.

969
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: There's like open trash cans. That's so true.

970
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: They don't want you throwing away the groceries.

971
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want to be like, oh these eggs,

972
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: I actually don't want these eggs trash. Oh this like

973
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: ice cream trash. So you're walking around with like you've

974
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: got a buggy full of shit, and now you've got

975
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 3: a fucking hand that's wet with condensation from some huge frappuccino.

976
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: And now you're and now you're like having to like

977
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: put that in the crook of your arm and other

978
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: ship flipping. Now you look and you're ruining other people's time,

979
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: And I think that is devastating. That's fucked up. It's

980
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: fucked up. Honestly, I think we should annex Seattle for

981
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: even don't I'm I said, I wasn't going to go

982
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: on a tirade about the Northwest. I'm not going to

983
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: go on to tirade about the Northwest.

984
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: I begged you pre podcast, please, Gary, don't you just

985
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: leave the Northwest alone?

986
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: Did these motherfuckers have a wall filled with gum? You

987
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 3: want me to be silent?

988
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: It was an hour of just you and I going

989
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: back and forth on the phone. Just I tried to

990
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: get you to sign a contract. Please just leave it.

991
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: B But here we are and you're freaking out about

992
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: the Northwest.

993
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 3: But I'm going to be chilled no more Northwest talk

994
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: than me.

995
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: So curse with Starbucks. Curse you got the point, of course,

996
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we even talking about with the Starbucks.

997
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: It's confusing. It always looks like a kind of a

998
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: black hole within the grocery store. Yeah, I don't trust

999
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, Starbucks has a hard enough time doing it

1000
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: on their own, then they put it in the grocery store.

1001
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't trust that that coffee is going to be

1002
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: any anything.

1003
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1004
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: I mean I did have a driver's ed teacher who

1005
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: all of our destinations driving were to take her to

1006
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: grocery stores so she could go to Starbucks and get

1007
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: a coffee, which is an interesting.

1008
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: I like that a lot. I like that a lot.

1009
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: That's a fond memory of a Starbucks within a grocery store.

1010
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: But other than that, I yeah, I don't want the

1011
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: big wet thing in my hand, and I know it's

1012
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 2: not going to taste good.

1013
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's always at the entrance, right, It's always

1014
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: at the entrance. Never like in the middle.

1015
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: It makes us that grocery store feel like an airport.

1016
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: Groceries for grocery stores, right.

1017
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm glad that two people have finally been

1018
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: able to say it. Thank you listener Hayley for bringing

1019
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: this to my attention. Finally we have another ah. Listener

1020
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: Hannah has said gift he a curse soft pretzel and

1021
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: then in parentheses salted. I kind of assumed they were

1022
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: all salted.

1023
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, I think you've got to be

1024
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: pretty fucking psycho to get an unsalted pretzel.

1025
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: But this is a salted one, so she's wondering salted.

1026
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 3: So I guess like even in making the salt, I'm

1027
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 3: figuring that we're judging judging this against an unsalted pretzel.

1028
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna have to say gift. I'm gonna have

1029
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 3: to say gift simply because it would be so disrespectful

1030
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: to order a pretzel, to order a salt pretzel and

1031
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 3: to be given bread that is unsalted. That would be

1032
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: I would be fucking irate. I would lose my mind.

1033
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm screaming, I'm standing up, I'm asking for

1034
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 3: the manager. I'm saying, hey, here, I'm gonna fight somebody today.

1035
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna put I'm gonna physically put my

1036
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: hands on somebody and I'm going to grab their head

1037
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna squeeze as hard as I can until

1038
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: liquid comes out of you know. And the thing is,

1039
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even need it to be

1040
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: like thin and like running liquid, any sort of like

1041
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: any any kind of viscosity I'm happy with, but I

1042
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: need some sort of excretion from the head. If I

1043
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 3: get a funny about order a pretzel and it comes

1044
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: without salt, this.

1045
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: All happens in a flash. The pretzel touches your hand

1046
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: and suddenly you are true crushing the skull of Yes,

1047
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, an Anti employee or what's what's another pretzel?

1048
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: We had pretzel time at my local mall, but I

1049
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: don't know that was a national chain.

1050
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we had Anti Ann's. We had

1051
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: There's another thing that I'm thinking of. I think I'm

1052
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: thinking of a different one besides Anti Canna.

1053
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: I can I feel like there is another major pretzel

1054
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: maker that I cannot picture who Anti Anne is kind

1055
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: of overshadowed at this point, which, yeah, a tragedy. I

1056
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: would you know I would eat an Anti Enns pretzel

1057
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: maybe once a shift when I was working at the

1058
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: Apple store. You get a fifteen minute break, I'm down

1059
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: in a pretzel. Yeah, it's not a healthy thing to

1060
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: be doing. But back to the game. You said it's

1061
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: a gift.

1062
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 3: I think the gift absolutely well.

1063
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: Gary, you got one out of three. I think they're

1064
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: a curse a salted pretzel. Of course they taste wonderful,

1065
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: but really, whenever I'm wandering through a mall at this point,

1066
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: there's never a good time to be eating one of

1067
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: these things. It's almost a meal, but it's not quite like.

1068
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: It's just a very hard thing for me. I almost

1069
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: need to schedule a time to go get one of

1070
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: these things, and I can't do that when am I

1071
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: supposed to eat one?

1072
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: When you're sitting on the massage chair. You're sitting on

1073
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: a massage chair in the walkway entrance of some like

1074
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: electronics store, and you're sitting there and you're having the

1075
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: little balls go up and down your bag. That's when

1076
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: you just you get to unplug, and you get to

1077
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: pick each little, each big as piece of salt off

1078
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: of your pretzel and just kind of like set it

1079
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 3: on your mouth and feel that, and then destroy the pretzel.

1080
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: And destroy the massage chair with your greasy hands.

1081
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and then you pop one into Journeys or Spencer's two,

1082
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: you know, or if.

1083
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: You are describing a dream trip to them all for me, I.

1084
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: Mean yeah, I mean, like best case scenario, you get

1085
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: to go to all two before you get a phone

1086
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: call that your ride is outside. You get to go

1087
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: in and actually like see if these people at hot

1088
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: topic like worship the Devil. You're like, what's going on here?

1089
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 3: This feels bad this because like everything here is black

1090
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: and red. Everything here is black and red, and you

1091
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 3: just get to like see how the other half lives.

1092
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: That's you know, you've done an excellent job with all

1093
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: of these with trying to convince me, and that's never

1094
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: going to work. That happens you lose the game thirty

1095
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: three percent. Okay, that's just a failing grade.

1096
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: Hey, that sucks. That sucks. But we will get back

1097
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: up and we will soldier on.

1098
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: That's all you can do.

1099
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1100
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: This is the part of the podcast where it's called

1101
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: I Said No Emails, and people are writing into I

1102
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. Every one of

1103
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: them has a question about gifts or you know, social situations,

1104
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: this kind of thing. Gary, I need you to help

1105
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: me answer something. Will you please?

1106
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 3: How much longer? How many of these are we talking about?

1107
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: I've got about fifty pages, so if we could just

1108
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 3: go through twenty YEA, yeah, that's nothing? Yeah?

1109
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: Easy, okay, perfect? I mean I am sending dinner to

1110
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: your house. We'll just work through the night that I

1111
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: can do. Yeah, okay, Well let's get started then. This

1112
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 2: first one says hello to Bridger and guest. This question

1113
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: is not about giving a gift, but about receiving gifts.

1114
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: A lot of people in my life are not the

1115
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: best gift givers. Despite having a registry full of reasonably

1116
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: price items that I wanted and needed, we received baskets

1117
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: full of mismatched pillows and disposable forks from Walmart when

1118
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: I got married. I'm boxing up the items I just received.

1119
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: Is this rude? I fear that when my mother in

1120
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: law comes over and doesn't notice the live laugh Love

1121
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: sign on the wall, she's going to be offended. But

1122
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: I just can't put that in my house. Am I

1123
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: obligated to hold on to these things? Thank you? That's

1124
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: from Sarah in Alabama. Sarah and Alabama. Sounds like the

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00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: people in her life may just despise her. They're sending

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00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: her disposable forks, yeah, from Walmart for her wedding.

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00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: That's an active aggression, that is real. Is I think that.

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00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: I think you gotta sage it. Get it out of

1129
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: the house, a sat as soon as humanly possible, get

1130
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: that out of there. That's gonna Yeah, you're gonna want

1131
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: to be if they're sending disposable forks, they're not looking

1132
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: for the live laugh love. They're not They're not a

1133
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: walking representation of that.

1134
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: You know. That's I mean, I've I've never heard of

1135
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: something like does these people? I mean, but I mean also,

1136
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: maybe Sarah, take a look in the mirror. What behavior

1137
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: are you exhibiting that the people in your life are saying,

1138
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: let's send her a box of plastic forks for her wedding?

1139
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because if you're out here constantly putting on backyard

1140
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: barbecues and pool parties, then maybe that's an actually really

1141
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 3: thoughtful gift, and then you actually don't need this Vita Max,

1142
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: you know, right? And I also encourage you to ask yourself,

1143
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: what's the reason to be priced, because if they're sending forks,

1144
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: it's probably because they want to get forks. You know,

1145
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: it would be it would be insane to be to

1146
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: buy somebody a gift set of plastic forks when you

1147
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: could get them anything else.

1148
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: Truly, anything else A Snickers, yes, you know, for a wedding.

1149
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: I will take a box of total cereal before a

1150
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: plastic forks. So, uh, you know, Sarah, I You know

1151
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: it's often said we don't always get what we want,

1152
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: but we sometimes get what we need. And maybe these

1153
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: forks or exactly what you needed, but maybe they're not.

1154
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: Maybe your life is just so chaotic and you're bringing

1155
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: all these poisonous people in, and you know, you're surrounding

1156
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: yourself with people who just couldn't care less if you

1157
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: live or die. Yeah, there's a lot going on here

1158
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: that we don't know. And there's a mother in law

1159
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: who apparently is extremely sensitive about the garbage that she

1160
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: gives you, which could be you know, your partner's problem.

1161
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: What she needs to do is get herself a couple

1162
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: replica NBA championship rings, start flashing those get some fucking respect.

1163
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the way you act the way you behave

1164
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 2: is you'll get that back in the way people treat you. Yes,

1165
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: And she's just going around with these naked fingers, just

1166
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: expecting people to give her things beyond a plastic fork,

1167
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: and of course it's not working.

1168
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: In today's after the summer we've had, come on, that's

1169
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: insane behavior. You can't do that.

1170
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: At this point, everyone should have a minimum six rings

1171
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: on their fingers at all times. At least they should

1172
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: be replicas of you know, an NBA championship rings. Yeah,

1173
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: pick your favorite team, go for it. Yeah, you know,

1174
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: I feel like six rings. What is it that You've

1175
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: got the Lakers, You've got maybe the Bulls. Who what

1176
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: other teams have this many rings?

1177
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: You've got your San Antonio Spurs.

1178
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: The Spurs, so you've got options.

1179
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: You've got options.

1180
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: So, I mean, the fact that Sarah even wrote in

1181
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: is a little embarrassing for her grow up right now.

1182
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: She drags her family and friends through this, yeahen, Ultimately

1183
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: she's kind of the problem.

1184
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: There's some poor sucker in Alabama right now, like, oh,

1185
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: I think she actually liked the disposable forts. And then

1186
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: he hears this podcast on the news and he's like,

1187
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: hold up, what are you fucking kidding me? I spent

1188
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: everything I had on those works. I gave everything I could.

1189
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 3: I gave everything I could, and I'm getting dragged through

1190
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: the mud. Oh.

1191
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: I mean you imagine the scenario. You give your sister

1192
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: a law some nice plastic forks, she invites you over

1193
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: for dinner. You bite into your meal and you notice

1194
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: that it's a metal fork you're eating off of. How

1195
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: are you supposed to get to the rest of the meal?

1196
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, now my teeth have all cracked and fall out

1197
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 3: of my head. Wild unbelievable.

1198
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: Gary, We don't need to do the next twenty five pages.

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01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: We I mean, we did such an excellent job with Sarah.

1200
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: We nailed her problem almost absolutely. We took her to task.

1201
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: Is that what people say?

1202
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: You take someone a task?

1203
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we gave her some you know, if she

1204
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: needed to hear.

1205
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: All of that. Yeah, absolutely that she's gonna hate, Like,

1206
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 3: just know that saying that hurt us more than it

1207
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: hurt her.

1208
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: And it hurt the listeners, you know. You know, we've

1209
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: got forty million listeners at a time. Here. Suddenly she's

1210
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: she's damaged a large part of the worldwide populace. People

1211
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: now have to spend the rest of their day thinking

1212
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: about Sarah's greed.

1213
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: Now she's canceled. She'll never be president, She'll never she'll

1214
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 3: never hold public office, no way.

1215
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: Why everyone and everyone hates her. Yeah, it's such a shame, Sarah.

1216
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: Thanks for writing in. You know, you know, I hope

1217
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: you can pick up the pieces and move on in

1218
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: some way.

1219
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like maybe they just step back listen for a while,

1220
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: just listen.

1221
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: Do the work, yeah, kind of, you know, just publicly

1222
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 2: donate to your favorite charity. Yes, you know, you've got

1223
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: to get out there and rehab your image ASA immediately.

1224
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: This is gonna cost thousands of dollars a month in

1225
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: PR fees, but it's gonna be ultimately worth it. I mean,

1226
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: that's that was the risk you took when you wrote

1227
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: into the podcast, That's all.

1228
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: I mean.

1229
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: Everyone takes a risk. Sometimes it pays off. Sometimes it

1230
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: kind of levels your life and that's fine.

1231
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 3: But you live, you live, you live, or you die,

1232
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: your choice, you know, Yeah, it's your call. Gary.

1233
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled I've now have these six gorgeous rings

1234
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be able to kind of just you know,

1235
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: saunter around town, go to business meetings, pound desks, yes,

1236
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, eat sandwiches, iron my shirts, the amount of

1237
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: things you can do with rings on your fingers. I'm

1238
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: gonna be lifting weights, Yeah, I'm gonna.

1239
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: Be you know, put for you. You can you wear

1240
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: those you go to the Staples Center, you can probably

1241
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 3: make a couple of trades. I'll probably sign a couple

1242
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 3: of folks. I think I think the world's about to

1243
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: open up for you in a way that is pretty enviable.

1244
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: The next time you see me waving from my car,

1245
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: pay close attention to what's on my hands, because it's

1246
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: it's going to be some dazzling rings and it's going

1247
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: to leave you kind of just in a state of disarray.

1248
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1249
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time with you and I'm

1250
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: so glad to see you. This is just wonderful. And

1251
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: hopefully the listener isn't too angry with you. You know,

1252
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: started off the podcast. I warned them, Yeah, but I

1253
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: think we made it through.

1254
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if they are angry, sue me, you know,

1255
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 3: lawyer rep and sue me, trycause class action.

1256
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: I feel like this is class action.

1257
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: For sure.

1258
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: People will get done with Sarah. They're going to come

1259
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: after Gary, that's fine.

1260
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: That's fine. I welcome the hate. I welcome the hate.

1261
01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: That's my life, Gary Richardson, welcome the hate. Listener. This

1262
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: is the end of the podcast, and you have to

1263
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: now make some big decisions about what the rest of

1264
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: your life looks like. I want you to be careful.

1265
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: I want you also to have an exciting time, something fulfilling.

1266
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: Do whatever you want, maybe at least have a decent dinner,

1267
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: do what you need to do. Come back next week

1268
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: we'll continue to grow all together. Goodbye. I Said No

1269
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered

1270
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: by our dear friend Anna Lisa Nelson, and the theme

1271
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow

1272
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. That's

1273
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1274
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts listen

1275
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me.

1276
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: And why not leave a review while you're there. It's

1277
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: really the least you could do considering everything I do

1278
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show,

1279
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: go to miderl dot com, slash ads.

1280
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

1281
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: When you're a guess to my home, you gotta come

1282
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guest, your presences

1283
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: presents enough, and I already had too much stuff. So

1284
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me?