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Speaker 3: You guys know, I've been talking about this past Russ

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Speaker 3: thing all freaking summers, and it's hard to look at

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Speaker 4: Sometimes a play like that will happen on the blod

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Speaker 4: somebody will say, Fred, what happened on that place? I

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Speaker 4: have no idea. I don't know. I don't know why

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Speaker 4: that guy was wide open character metaverse. Drake may was

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Speaker 4: in there. You wouldn't be going to get a draw.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, But that's not the same thing. I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't have all that much more to faith that they're

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Speaker 5: going to convert it because they have no protection and

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Speaker 5: they have no threat.

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Speaker 4: But he'd figure it out. That's okay.

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Speaker 5: So you're thinking Gerad is really screwing this up there.

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Speaker 4: I think that he needs to make the call.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I think Girod is screwing it up. I'll say

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Speaker 5: it like Iana.

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Speaker 6: That's Nirvana.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Patty, who you don't know from Nirvana?

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Speaker 5: Have you heard they don't have a left tackle. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 4: at Gillette Stadium talking to Patriots, returning the page to

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Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins, a clash of one and three. I

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Speaker 4: can't quite say Titans, but yeah, the teams that are

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Speaker 4: struggling offensively.

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Speaker 5: The two worst offenses in the league. Yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 5: know from a points.

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Speaker 3: Scored, Yes, you want to go by that, that's yeah, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean I don't want to go by a dot vo.

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Speaker 4: It's Paul, it's Mike, it's fred emanab bye later, Michael

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Speaker 4: be leaving soon because he's got to go to the

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's nice of Mike Degree.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what's going on. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: keeping on.

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Speaker 4: Top of well. Today Gerard Mayo spoke his Wednesday press conference,

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Speaker 4: which kind of historically talks about the next team and

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Speaker 5: But didn't get any Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to say you had some other things

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Speaker 4: to say, Mike, What are your take.

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Speaker 3: That what David Andrews is the headline for today? And

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Speaker 3: it sounds like, you know, Ian Rappaport reported and now

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Speaker 3: Mayo pretty much confirmed that David Andrews will be going

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Speaker 3: on ir seems like his season will be over. So

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Speaker 3: huge blow, I mean, another huge blow to an offensive

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a tough blow. Then you listened to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's a need that I think can

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Speaker 5: And then maybe you know, like Mike brought up Jake Andrews,

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Speaker 4: And he comments on Remandre just the continuing problem.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm having listened too. He was asked a pretty

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Speaker 3: Antonio Gibson, maybe go talk to him here in a minute, Yeah, hasty,

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Speaker 5: I just think Gibson's a guy, and I'm not telling

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Speaker 5: centerpiece of your running game, and maybe the production drop

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Speaker 4: It's it's it hurts Remandre. When he's not fumbling the

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Speaker 5: See, you know he was the first two weeks.

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought he had a good game last week, except.

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Speaker 5: For you thought he had a good game Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he did nothing. Sunday. I thought he had one run

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Speaker 4: Otherwise, I thought he ran hard.

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Speaker 5: He had forty yards Fred.

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Speaker 4: And he would have had less if he hadn't been

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Speaker 4: I had my eye test says he's the best running

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Speaker 5: Your eye test tells you that that's right. Congrats. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you see how he just changes it all. He went

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Speaker 3: What's the saying effective running backs are in the eye

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Speaker 5: So well and both but Fred and Fred is that

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Speaker 4: I think my point is that our best running back

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that's the bottom line. That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 5: And in typical Paul Fred fashion, we find.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad I got you guys started, and we're a

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Speaker 3: happy player. Now now I can I can exit after

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Speaker 3: my nine minutes, so I shall return.

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Speaker 4: I think Julius Peppers was waiting for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, then in that case I'll be back.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I do agree Fred that obviously

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Speaker 4: But it hurts.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the last couple of weeks have been

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Speaker 4: Going back to what Gerard was talking about, we were

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Speaker 5: And that's why he told the team after the Cincinnati's sustainable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, so there's a lot to dos theory.

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Speaker 5: more than just a typical straight ahead West Coast offense

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Speaker 5: like San Francisco runs and whatever. And it doesn't look

439
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: it doesn't look the same. They can't run him. Did

440
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Speaker 5: you watch any of them trying to run the ball?

441
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 5: I watching a Chan try to run the other night

442
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 5: was painful.

443
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

444
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 5: Like they couldn't get him any room at all. And

445
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 5: this is an explosive guy. So I think if if

446
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,719
Speaker 5: Miami's offense is putting up twenty plus points in this

447
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 5: game and there's some serious issues on defense, because that team,

448
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 5: I know they have some talent. And I think I

449
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 5: made the comment yesterday anytime the Miami offense is on

450
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 5: the field, the two best players in the game are

451
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 5: going to be on the field, right And I believe that. Yeah,

452
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 5: Kill and Waddle are the two best players that will

453
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 5: be out there for both on Sunday. Yeah, but they

454
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 5: haven't been able to do anything. Now maybe with a

455
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 5: week under his belt, is that much better this week?

456
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 4: And that's it to Drew Brees.

457
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 5: I think Tua is a pretty good player. I don't

458
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 5: think he's great. Yeah, I don't think he's.

459
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 4: But he's got the traits of Drew brees in that

460
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 4: he makes up for his physical stature in just knowing

461
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 4: where guys are, anticipating where they are being really accurate. Yeah,

462
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 4: I totally agree, especially with you know, balls over fifteen yards.

463
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 4: He's incredibly accurate and like he knows the offense like

464
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 4: nobody's business, and so it's a we're seeing it. It's

465
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 4: a huge drop off without.

466
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 5: Him, and he trusts what he sees. To your point,

467
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 5: I like you breeze comp because it is the lot

468
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 5: of a lot of throwing guys open. And that's why

469
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: he throws some picks because sometimes it's going to happen. Yeah,

470
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 5: but he's he's really good in that offense in that system,

471
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 5: and other guys haven't been anywhere near as productive. You've

472
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Speaker 5: seen it over the last couple of years with backups,

473
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Speaker 5: and some of them have been you know, guys like

474
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 5: Teddy Bridgewater, you know guys that are you know, fairly

475
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 5: accomplished NFL backups. You know, Jacoby Brissett played in it.

476
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 5: Like they just don't look. I mean, they don't look.

477
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 4: So you look at this game and you say, this

478
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 4: is a winnable game for the Patriots. The problem is

479
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 4: the state of the Patriots. I mean they're banged up too,

480
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: and they're not producing on offense. Uh, and they're you know,

481
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 4: they're banged up, not just on one side of the ball,

482
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball.

483
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is normally one of those games. I say, like,

484
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 5: you can't lose this game. I'm not saying that because

485
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 5: both teams are in similar situations. Yeah, there's there's a

486
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of banged up personnel on both sides.

487
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 5: I think at home you should probably win. But this

488
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 5: is not a game I'm expecting to be a If

489
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Speaker 5: Miami shows up to play, then I think this team

490
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 5: is going to be a really.

491
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Speaker 4: Different Obviously, the Patriots record overall over the last few

492
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: years hasn't been good, but at home, it's it's been terrible.

493
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: They you know, Jillette Stadium right now is no longer

494
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: home field advantage for the Patriots.

495
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Speaker 5: No, And you know you can there is something to that,

496
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 5: Like we talk about some of the teams that can

497
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 5: be tough on there, the way that they've played offense

498
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 5: the last few years. You know, you get a couple

499
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 5: of three and outs and crowd gets restless. You hear it,

500
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 5: You're gonna hear you're absolutely going to hear we want Drake.

501
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if it doesn't start off well offensively, and

502
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 5: that's a you know, mentally, that's tough. For the guys

503
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 5: that are.

504
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 4: On the field, it's tough. And yeah, you don't like

505
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: I want only the best for Jacobe Brissett.

506
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 5: He is such a class act. It's hard. It's hard

507
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 5: to not have anything but the utmost respect for him. Yah,

508
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 5: I'm dead serious when I say that.

509
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I but he's a he's a grown up.

510
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: He knew the situation he was getting into. Uh, you know,

511
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: they just drafted a third pick. Overall, it's only a

512
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: matter of time. But I think the time is now.

513
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 4: You know.

514
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Speaker 6: That's just what I do too.

515
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 5: And I could understand waiting this week just because of

516
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 5: the situation at Center. And I like you had mentioned

517
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 5: that to me yesterday, Like, so what if he can't

518
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 5: come back? No, I just mean, let Nick Leverett get

519
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 5: his feet wet, you know, and sort of be comfortable,

520
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 5: then make the move.

521
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Speaker 4: YEP. I wanted to read this email on the tpx houtline.

522
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 4: This is from Fraser clim Yeah, fr Ser Love's listening

523
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: to the show. Whoever He's struggling to listen to everyone

524
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 4: these days. I know you have lived in breathed football

525
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: your whole life, and I haven't, so I would always

526
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: defer to your knowledge on football matters. But the issue

527
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 4: of playing Drake may seems to me to be one

528
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 4: of common sense, and I think you guys have lost

529
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: all connection to yours. It's a matter of what is

530
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 4: best for the long term future of the team and

531
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Speaker 4: probability of outcomes. We have an all time bad offensive

532
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 4: line that is not a doubt. So if we are honest,

533
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: what is the probability of the following outcomes if we

534
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 4: played Drake now or soon? As you guys are advocating

535
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: one very serious injury And this is Fraser saying twenty

536
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: five percent mental stop Okay.

537
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: That's wrong. Okay, So she was saying there's a one

538
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 5: in four chance that he will be seriously injured.

539
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what he's saying.

540
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 5: Like to impact his career? Like which, how many serious

541
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 5: injuries have you seen that have impacted a career.

542
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: For a play, for a quarterback, for a player, Yeah,

543
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 4: they miss miss a season maybe.

544
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that doesn't count to me, Oh it doesn't no, Okay,

545
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 5: Like Anthony Richardson.

546
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: Right, that's an example.

547
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: No, Joe Burrow, he got hurt, right, Joe Bundy towards

548
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 5: a cl right, came back the next year, was fine,

549
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 5: right right. I'm talking about derailed his career because of

550
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: an injury he suffered because he played too soon.

551
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: Yep.

552
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 5: But I'm looking for I want to know the one

553
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 5: out of four chance for that, so I wholeheartedly put

554
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 5: a check on that.

555
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 4: So that's his first point. Number two mental setbacks slash

556
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 4: loss of confidence a lah mac Jones thirty five percent.

557
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 5: I think that's a possibility. I don't know. I think

558
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 5: that sounds high to me, okay, but I that's that one.

559
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 5: I'm I'm with fraid gets.

560
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: By and we end up with the same record as

561
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 4: we would with Jacoby. I'd say thirty five percent.

562
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: I think that's possibility.

563
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: Four. He does a bit better than Jacoby and we

564
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: win five games rather than two or three five percent.

565
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 5: I don't know about how many wins, but I think

566
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Speaker 5: he'll do better than Jacoby percent because I think he's

567
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: a better player than Jaquo.

568
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: He runs the table and we make the playoffs. Zero percent.

569
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Speaker 5: Okay, I agree with that too.

570
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 4: You guys can disagree with my probabilities if you want,

571
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: but I think you would be doing so only to

572
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: justify your current point of view that Drake should play.

573
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: So the only benefit of playing Drake now is to

574
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 4: start his development quicker. I understand that point, But you

575
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 4: guys are seriously willing to take on about a sixty

576
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 4: percent risk that he is seriously injured or mentally damaged

577
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 4: in order to get that marginal benefit. I think that's nuts.

578
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: He's meant to be our quarterback for ten years, so

579
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: taking that risk in year one is crazy.

580
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 5: So I would just like, the only thing I would

581
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 5: push back on here is the injury part, like tearing

582
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: his acl to me, is not a serious impediment for

583
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 5: his career, like we don't want it obviously. First of all,

584
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a one and four chance that

585
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 5: guys get hurt period, Like I just don't. I don't

586
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 5: think that you have to get hurt if you play

587
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 5: Like Corey Brissett hasn't gotten a serious injury and he's

588
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 5: gotten the stuffing knocked out of him every week, yep,

589
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 5: So you don't have to get hurt if you play, right.

590
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 5: But I also would just push back on the serious injury,

591
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: Like a serious injury is the Tua concussions that could

592
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 5: be career ending? Yeah, like that that might happen to Tua,

593
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: But I don't think it happened to Anthony Ridgardson last year.

594
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 5: Like the Colts that much worse off because he played

595
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: last year. If he didn't play at all last year,

596
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: do you think you'd be further along right now right

597
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 5: than he is? No, he got hurt, big deal. Yep,

598
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 5: Like it's a risk, like guys get hurt.

599
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 4: So Fraser ends it by saying, who cares about this year?

600
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: Let's tank There is no discernible difference between two and

601
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: fifteen and five and twelve. So let's take the two

602
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: and fifteen record, pick in the top two and stack

603
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: up with O line on the first two days. This

604
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: rebuild is going to take another two drafts in a

605
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: very good free agency market. So I understand what he's saying,

606
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: But I want the progress and the learning by playing

607
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: to start now. It's that simple. You know a lot

608
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: of people, we don't talk about it a lot, but

609
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: money comes into play here. You want to know in

610
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 4: two or three years if you've got the guy so

611
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: that you can make that economic decision of whether to

612
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: extend him early and get that out of the way

613
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: before he comes starts to get close to free agent

614
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: or that fourth.

615
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: All of that's I think all of that stuff factors.

616
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: And I just would say that you you know, you

617
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 5: wrapped up Fraser's email, so I would say to Fraser

618
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: that I think he Fraser makes a lot of really

619
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: really good points. I do. And this is where, like

620
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 5: I say this all the time, just because we don't

621
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 5: agree doesn't mean we have to be dismissed. I think

622
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: everything he said makes perfect sense. It's a it's a

623
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: really well thought out email, and it's where I think,

624
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people fall right now. It's

625
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 5: where Mike Felger is one thousand percent in your camp

626
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: of all people, you know, the king of irrationality. That's

627
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 5: exactly where he thinks. I just don't think that it

628
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 5: has to be all or nothing. And that's that's only

629
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: where we would separate a little bit. This has nothing

630
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: to do with any thoughts of like making a playoff

631
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: run or trying to improve things. I want to find

632
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 5: I'm like Fred, I want to find out about the

633
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 5: guy a little bit this year, not next year.

634
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: What do you think about this theory as to what

635
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: Elliott Wolf and Gerrod Mayo might be thinking that our

636
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: team stinks right now, We're not a good football team.

637
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: That was another part of the press commison. So that

638
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: kind of took me about.

639
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: I don't want any of that stink on Drake May

640
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: right now.

641
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 5: Girodd said that, you know, we knew coming into the

642
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: season we were going to take our lumps, and maybe

643
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: we knew there wasn't going to be like it just

644
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: was kind of striking to hear me listen to a

645
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 5: coach kind of openly admit that he knew they weren't

646
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 5: going to be very good.

647
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: But let's for now disassociate Drake May from the stink.

648
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: What do you think about that?

649
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 5: I don't like it? Okay, yeah, I don't like it.

650
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: You know, so like when you look back on this

651
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: terrible season, Drake May wasn't part of it.

652
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I have less admirable thoughts as to why,

653
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 5: which is something he doesn't play, if he doesn't play

654
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 5: at all, I have less admirable reasons that I would

655
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Speaker 5: have for the coaching staff and to sort of save themselves. Yeah,

656
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Speaker 5: you know, the longer they go without playing on the

657
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 5: less it's an indictment on them. Yeah, you know, we

658
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Speaker 5: have hope. We're going to dangle hope as long as

659
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Speaker 5: we can. Yeah, once he plays, you kind of got

660
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Speaker 5: to go by how he looks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so I was just that's just something

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Speaker 4: I was. I was thinking. Those are coming in at

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Speaker 4: podcasts at Patriots dot com. You can still use web radio,

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Speaker 4: but if you the proper email now is podcasts at

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Speaker 4: Patriots dot com, I'm told. And of course we have

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Speaker 4: Let's get over to the tpx heutline where we have

678
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Speaker 4: some callers hanging on. We've got Ray from Washington State

679
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: calling in. What's up?

680
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Speaker 8: Ray?

681
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Speaker 9: Okay, guys, thanks for taking my call. Uh you kind

682
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Speaker 9: of touched on the first point.

683
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Speaker 4: I had.

684
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Speaker 9: A thirteen to six point is not gonna be enough,

685
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Speaker 9: I think, but your Kobe to keep his job. Well,

686
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 9: my question is how about a three three half time score?

687
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 9: Would Nate get the chance then? And my second comment

688
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 9: is the game against San Francisco Sunday sideline shots to

689
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Speaker 9: May look like a very frustrated young man. Has anybody

690
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Speaker 9: have any feedback to Howards locker room datis is what's

691
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Speaker 9: the team? And I take your comments of.

692
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Speaker 4: Wait, wait, who's locker room status?

693
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Speaker 9: May? He looked very disgruntled?

694
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Speaker 5: Okay, I didn't see that.

695
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Speaker 9: How is he doing in the locker room with the player?

696
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: Fine? Absolutely fine? Seems better. I mean he seems in

697
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Speaker 5: the locker room, you know, Like I just observationally, Friday

698
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: was the last time I was in the locker room.

699
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Speaker 5: I obviously wasn't there Sunday postgame to comment on Ray's

700
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: specific question about how he looked in the game. I

701
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: see a lot of guys interacted with him a lot.

702
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Speaker 5: He seems I mean, he doesn't look like he has

703
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Speaker 5: too many bad days. Yeah, Drake is like he's a

704
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Speaker 5: happy kid. I call him a kid. He's that much

705
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Speaker 5: younger man.

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Speaker 4: I saw him on Saturday before the game, you know, uh,

707
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Speaker 4: hanging out with his teammates playing cards. He seems fine.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I want to get to something, But before that, I

710
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Speaker 4: want to address the first part of Ray's question about

711
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Speaker 4: putting may in if this low production at halftime. I

712
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Speaker 4: don't want to do that either, because I want him

713
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Speaker 4: to go in having prepared for the team for the

714
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Speaker 4: whole week and getting all the reps. And I assume

715
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Speaker 4: that won't be the case this week.

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Speaker 5: I don't think to your point. I'm with you one

717
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 5: hundred percent. I think that if he plays on Sunday,

718
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 5: the outcome will have been decided. I can't see them

719
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: putting him in a close game at hand, nothing unless

720
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 5: it's an injury, right, you know, and that listen, that

721
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 5: is strongly in play. That might be how it happens.

722
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Speaker 4: But the other thing that what Ray said reminded me

723
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Speaker 4: of another topic that's going around mostly on your show's Paul,

724
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Speaker 4: is the comportment of some of the other players on

725
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Speaker 4: the team.

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Speaker 5: I think it's I listened to Greg a little bit yesterday,

727
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Speaker 5: Greg Bdard, and he talked about it a little bit.

728
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Speaker 5: I think that we talked about it on our show Yesterdayeah,

729
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 5: we did. There was another one of our shows yesterday

730
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Speaker 5: that got repeated from two to four on another show.

731
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Speaker 4: But but DoD We'll got more into specifics with certain players,

732
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Speaker 4: Pop Douglas and Poke.

733
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Speaker 5: He mentioned, Yeah, the two receivers we talked about yesterday,

734
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Speaker 5: and I think that Godshaw was talking about Keon White

735
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Speaker 5: and Joshua Ushe yeah, excuse me. I think he was

736
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Speaker 5: talking about those guys. Greg Bdard had some very specific

737
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Speaker 5: plays where he broke down sort of a simple te

738
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Speaker 5: stunt with with y's and White and White didn't look

739
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Speaker 5: like you did the right thing and they ended up

740
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: colliding and easily. I think it was the first third

741
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: down that pretty easily got around the containment. I think

742
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: there's something to it. You know, you had some success,

743
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 5: you know, and I even think back to you might

744
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: not remember this fread, but the first year that I

745
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 5: think that Judon was here, he was piling up a

746
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 5: lot of sacks in the first half of the season,

747
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 5: and Kyle Van Noy, of all people, was kind of critical.

748
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 5: It's like, huh, I don't remember being able to run

749
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: around and freelance like that, you know, do you remember

750
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Speaker 5: that when you know when we were there, And so

751
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 5: I do wonder if maybe there's been some you know,

752
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 5: liberty's taken defensively and sometimes like in case of Jude On,

753
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 5: it's led to a lot of production. Yeah, but you know,

754
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure that he was a great guy in

755
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Speaker 5: terms of setting the edge.

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Speaker 4: I mean, AVP has been getting a lot of you know, heat,

757
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: and you know, he's the subject of a lot of talk.

758
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Speaker 4: But at some point, especially this week, if they don't

759
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: do well against Miami, DeMarcus Cummington's name is going to

760
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: come up again. And Girod Mayo link to the defense too,

761
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: because he's a defensive mind.

762
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: If they let Hill and Waddell get over the top, Yeah,

763
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 5: there's some questions on the defensive side that need to

764
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Speaker 5: be asked and addressed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm I'm excited for this game in one

766
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: aspect because I think Gonzalez has been playing pretty well

767
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Speaker 4: in the role that he's been given so far. But

768
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Speaker 4: what will his role be this weekend and how well

769
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Speaker 4: will he do. I think this is a good test for.

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Speaker 5: Him, you know, yeah, I see, I agree with exactly

771
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Speaker 5: the way you said it. I think he's played pretty

772
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Speaker 5: well in the role that he's been asked to do.

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Speaker 5: My question would be when is he going to be

774
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Speaker 5: the When is he going to be asked to do that?

775
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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: And if he is this week? So like, okay, you

777
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 5: you just trail Wattle every play and we're gonna have

778
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Speaker 5: Jonathan Jones and help on Tyreek Hill. Right, that's generally

779
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: because Jonathan Jones has been pretty effective with Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 5: You know, He's not always gotten them all by himself. Yeah,

781
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Speaker 5: but he's been pretty good with Tyreek Hill, even going

782
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 5: back to Kansas City, So that would make sense that

783
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Speaker 5: they continue to do that that way. You know. So

784
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Speaker 5: we're going to play more man coverage this week? Can

785
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 5: you not do that? Because Tyler Huntley likes to run?

786
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 5: Do you not want to be always in man and

787
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: give him some escape routes? Especially with some of the

788
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 5: problems that you've had containing quarterbacks in the pocket. I

789
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: think there's there's different ways to go, different avenues.

790
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Speaker 4: Let's get back to the TPX Hutline Todd's in North Carolina.

791
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Speaker 11: Hey Todd, Hey guy's how are you doing. I was

792
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 11: listening that, you know, flights to us bad and he

793
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 11: likes other guys balls and a lot of time they

794
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 11: involved here, whereas you know, I think it was Brady's

795
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 11: and again he did give Brady a kid. So I

796
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 11: know you're all waiting for the QB to get in there,

797
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 11: But what can we do to help him if he

798
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 11: gets in there? Is there anything we can do like

799
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 11: move the parking around or do something that these guys

800
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 11: could block make it easier to pass block, or is

801
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 11: he's just gonna have to well because lump like Jacoby's been.

802
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a good question, Todd, you know, like,

803
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: what can you do to help Drake May? You know,

804
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: you know, and I know what we're all thinking, What

805
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: can we do to help Drake May? Considering the state

806
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: of the offensive line, I'm not sure that they're not

807
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 4: already doing that with Jacoby Prisett, but he's just not

808
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: taking advantage of it. Of course, the first thing is

809
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: you can do Max protect. You can bring in an

810
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: extra alignment, which they do. You can have plays that

811
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: get the ball out of the quarterback's hands quickly, which

812
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: I think they're trying to do, but Jacoby maybe just

813
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 4: doesn't do it.

814
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Speaker 5: I think they started the game doing it, and they

815
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: had like the little sprint out to the right. It's

816
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Speaker 5: just it's hard when that's This is what I would

817
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 5: sort of talking about, Like I think, because there's no

818
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 5: threat to get over the top, you're able to just

819
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 5: let those passes be completed and tackled, you know. And

820
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Speaker 5: if it's third and four, you know, maybe some of

821
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 5: those are resulting in first downs, but if it's third

822
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 5: and ten, for the most part, they're not. And you

823
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 5: can only get it out so fast if it's really

824
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 5: a manageable situation. I think that there's been too many

825
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 5: long yarded situations and they're not built to convert those. Yeah,

826
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Speaker 5: but I agree with everything you said. You get you know,

827
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Speaker 5: there's definite things that they did in terms of chipping

828
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: and you know, keeping an extra tight end in even

829
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: they just have to play better, you.

830
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: Know, and listen. The thing about Drake may is we've

831
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Speaker 4: seen it already in pre season and we certainly saw

832
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Speaker 4: it from the tape in North Carolina. He's not afraid

833
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: to run and like there'll be times where he ran.

834
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Speaker 5: When he played mop up against the Jets, he ran

835
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Speaker 5: a couple of times.

836
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Speaker 4: You know, there'll be times where everything's covered, but there's

837
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Speaker 4: some green pastures and he's gonna run for fifteen yards.

838
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Speaker 4: And if you're starting at the thirty, now you're at midfield,

839
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Speaker 4: you know.

840
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Speaker 5: So don't do the math. Yeah, no, I agree, and more,

841
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Speaker 5: I think more importantly, or you know, hopefully some of

842
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: those I see greener pastures. I'm going to extend a

843
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 5: play and then hit one yep, you know, and be

844
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: able to get something. You know that's wasn't necessarily dialed up,

845
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: wasn't the way we drew it up. But all of

846
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 5: a sudden we get a fifty yard chunk play. Because

847
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 5: I talked about yesterday. I just don't think they're good

848
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 5: enough to put together a lot of double digit play drives.

849
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: But anybody can hit one or two big plays and

850
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 5: put some points on the board that way.

851
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: And if i'm you know, AVP and I'm coaching up Drake,

852
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: I'm showing him tape of when, not when Tom Brady

853
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: completed passes, I'm showing him tape to when he threw

854
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 4: it away and said this play is done. I'm getting

855
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 4: rid of the ball because that's self preservation and that's fine.

856
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: Live to play another play. Don't try to be the

857
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: hero all the time. No one, you know, to call

858
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: it quits.

859
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 5: Uh.

860
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: No one did that better than Brady. Sometimes he did

861
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: it out of anger because people just didn't do that.

862
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: It is a little different too, because Brady could never

863
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 5: have the threat of making a play with his legs

864
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 5: and this guy does.

865
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Speaker 4: But you know, when things are closing in, don't you know,

866
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: don't try to be the hero and get the ball,

867
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 4: knock loose and all that stuff, because turnovers are what's

868
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: going to kill you. Uh. Dennis is in Hawaii. What's up, Dennis?

869
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Speaker 5: Hey, surfs up?

870
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: Well, I just wanted to say one thing. You know,

871
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: I've been watching, I've been listening to you guys. I've

872
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: been watching the game, and I just feel like like,

873
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: because of this collaboration between all the coaches and everything else,

874
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't really think Gerrod is doing what he should

875
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: be doing because I really believe that Drake may just

876
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: be played. And you know, we only started talking about this.

877
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: I've been a fan for forty nine years. We've only

878
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: started talking about this about because of mac Jones because

879
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: of what people said that happened to mac Jones and

880
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: all that, and we're not Green Bay, and I think

881
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: we need to just go ahead and see what Drake

882
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: can do, okay, because he's way better than Pressett. Yeah,

883
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: and Girod said from the beginning it was a competition,

884
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: but then he took that away because it's a competition

885
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: and Drake did better than Pristte, but then, oh, we're

886
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: not going to go with him. Yes, So I don't

887
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: think Drake, I don't think Male is doing the right

888
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: thing for the team.

889
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Like I said, go ahead, Dennis.

890
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying that. You know, I've been a fan before

891
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, so I know what it's like to lose.

892
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: I know what it's like to not win dings and

893
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: things like that. But I think we need to get

894
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: to the place of just seeing what Drake can do,

895
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: and I'll take the risk.

896
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeahs, I mean that's kind of where I fall with,

897
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: you know, closer to Dennis than Frasier. Again, I think

898
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 5: both lines of thought can have valid points. I don't

899
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: I don't think either one of them is wrong. If

900
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: you decide you want to be more patient, I don't

901
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: think that's wrong. I just feel like you're it's a

902
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 5: wasted opportunity. And I and I think it's it's so

903
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 5: easy to say the Green Bay stuff when you have

904
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 5: farvarand Rogers playing still at a high level.

905
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: I believe that Gerard Mayo hired some people to be

906
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: in charge of the offense, and he's letting them do

907
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: their job. But at some point he's going to say enough.

908
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 4: I know that you don't think he's quite ready. If

909
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: that's what they're saying, I don't know. But whatever the

910
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: reason is that they're telling him it's not time for

911
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: may he just says, I, I'm taking this engine out

912
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: of your hands.

913
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: This Saul has to operate out of the premise that

914
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: they think that he is progressing in practicing and you know,

915
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: ready to go.

916
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: And listen if if Gerard Mayo is smart, he's sitting

917
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: in on some of these meetings and he's listening himself

918
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: and so that he can make his own opinion. But

919
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: I believe ultimately it is Gerard Mayo's call. Dennis is right.

920
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: You know, he's got to be the person and he's

921
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: got to do what's right for the team. And you know,

922
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: Paul and I believe what's right for the team right

923
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: now is to play May and we'll see eventually if

924
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: Jerrod agrees with that. But as we say that, you

925
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 4: know what's right for the team right now is to

926
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: turn to Mike do So, who just came from the

927
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 4: locker A little smell, a little bit like ben Gette.

928
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: Back.

929
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: All right, right, So tell us the mood in the

930
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 4: talk of the locker room.

931
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: I would say the biggest mood was waiting for Nick

932
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Leverett to come to his locker. That was the initial mood.

933
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: Every center of attention, the center of attention, perfect, everyone's

934
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: standing around his locker and.

935
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 5: It's got to go back and update his notebook. After

936
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: that one.

937
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 3: It's good.

938
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 6: I'm want to steal that one.

939
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: So just you know, little conversations going around, Von Godshaw,

940
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: Christian Gonzalez, remonders Stevenson, little scrums here and there, but

941
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: you know, same kind of message we've been here and

942
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: turn the page and you know, we believe in the

943
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: guys in the room, and you know we got to

944
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: get it down. We got to eliminate them mistakes, uh,

945
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. But you know, next man up,

946
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: I mean you're hearing a lot of these cliche phrases

947
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: for you know, a team that, let's face it, they've uh,

948
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: they've lost a few games, and.

949
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: They've lost some games and they've lost some personnel. Yeah,

950
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 5: you know, it's not it's not an easy situation.

951
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 6: They're reeling a little bit.

952
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: But uh but Nick Leverett, you know, he's got some experience,

953
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: so hopefully he's able to hold the fort.

954
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, was one Drake May available? Yeah he was there.

955
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 3: He was you know, not no uh no major scrums,

956
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: but yeah, he's always in there. You know, it's just

957
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: the difference to the locker room this year, whereas I mean,

958
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: I think I went my whole first year without ever

959
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: actually seeing Tom Brady ever in his locker and now

960
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty consistent. You see Drake and Jacobe there

961
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 3: and and pretty much the whole team. They're all getting

962
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: ready for practice.

963
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: So I had mentioned Mike that, you know, in my

964
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not i'd say maybe one out of

965
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 5: the three open locker rooms I've been in so far,

966
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: whereas you're at all of them, do you feel like

967
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 5: Drake May is always very positive and seems like he's

968
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 5: chipper and interacting with his teammates because in my ears

969
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 5: he has been like I see a lot of interaction

970
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: with his teammates and a lot of joking, a lot

971
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 5: of laughing.

972
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems I mean, he seems like it. I

973
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't say anything really stood out to me today. He

974
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: was just kind of, you know, getting in his towel,

975
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: taking a shower, coming back out, getting ready.

976
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 5: Someone had brought up that that he looked like he

977
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 5: was upset on the sideline in the game and was

978
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 5: wondering about his place in the locker room. Oh, and

979
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: I said, I haven't really seen it.

980
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 6: No, I haven't. I haven't seen any of that.

981
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: And no vibe from him in the locker room that

982
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: was you know, those bad seem like, you know, same old,

983
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: same old Drake. They're all just very approachable now, which

984
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: is just the biggest departure I think for me. It

985
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: was always you know, rookies were off limits and and

986
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: the locker room was always very sparse anyway.

987
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 5: So now it's all about that time, you know that, right?

988
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's just one hundred. The way the locker

989
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 5: room is right now is the way the locker room

990
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: was for ten years. It's great, Like it's not necessarily Now,

991
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 5: some of it is some of it is these guys

992
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 5: feel more comfortable speaking to the media without necessarily sure

993
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 5: getting deal with repercussionable. But I'm talking about the amount

994
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 5: of players in the locker room. This is how it

995
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 5: always used to be. When the locker room was open

996
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 5: before practice earlier in the day, you got a chance

997
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 5: to see and talk to a good ninety percent of

998
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 5: the roster. And then they changed it and no one

999
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 5: was ever in the locker room. Yeah, like it wasn't

1000
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 5: necessarily like an edict stay out of the locker room,

1001
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: don't talk to that.

1002
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: What about some of the offensive weapons, namely the wide receivers.

1003
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 4: Were they out there?

1004
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1005
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 6: They were there, you know.

1006
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: I I saw jaylen Polk doing a little thing with

1007
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: Andrew Callahan. He was, you know, doing some fun karaoke

1008
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 3: questions with him. But yeah, they're all there, I mean everybody.

1009
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: Now you see just a lot of these little side

1010
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: conversations where you know, someone like Phil Perry will you know,

1011
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: just kind of sidle up next to Jacobe and you know,

1012
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 3: have an extended conversation with him, and our own Evan

1013
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: Lazarre was you know, talking to Uce a little bit

1014
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 3: in there, so you see a lot more of those

1015
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: smaller conversations going on. And I mean I just I

1016
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: caught it as I was coming out Andrew briefly talked

1017
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: to Viderian Lowe, who said, you no, like he's going

1018
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: to give it a go today. I mean, he looked

1019
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: like he was getting ready to go out, had a

1020
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: big knee brace on. So I'm not sure that is

1021
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: an arrow pointing towards he might play, but it might

1022
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: be a little bit of progress for Darien low which

1023
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: would be just at least to get some depth back,

1024
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 3: and especially if that left.

1025
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 4: That was the locker room DJ.

1026
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh, that's you know, I haven't really noticed one. That's

1027
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 3: a good question. It used to be Brandon Bolden. There's

1028
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: always somebody with like there's not really a lot of

1029
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: a lot of music. That's a great question. Fred I

1030
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: haven't even was excellent at he liked but he liked

1031
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: all my music. Yeah, he was old school. Yeah, I think,

1032
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's always kind of down hear the linebacker area,

1033
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: and I think key On White might have the ox

1034
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm not sure who's going to take it from

1035
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: ke On White.

1036
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 4: I know he's the Friday funny guy.

1037
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bar bar So.

1038
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: What does that mean.

1039
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: I guess it's so Barmore has to come up with

1040
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: some video clips every Friday. That that kind of loosened

1041
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: the mood up a little bit. And uh, I don't know.

1042
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: Reading some of the report the articles over the weekend,

1043
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: I guess he hasn't been doing that great of a

1044
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: chop on it so far. Some of the guys, we

1045
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 3: needed to be more funny.

1046
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard.

1047
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you how do you please? What's

1048
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: seventy seven?

1049
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: Play is enlists that helped, and then they could help

1050
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: him do that.

1051
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: Get sailor on that shot, you know, dig up old

1052
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: pictures of teammates.

1053
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: So if you're listening, Christian, you know we're here.

1054
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: To help put some content for you, make it snappy

1055
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: and funny. So hopefully he improves. You know, you just

1056
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: got to get better every week.

1057
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 5: I've got to find that to be funny.

1058
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 4: Find the funny, all right, anything else funny, It needs

1059
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: to be funny.

1060
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: Looked like Marty Maphu was getting ready to go out there.

1061
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: We know, you know, Jiro kind of hinted at that,

1062
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: so was you know, I'm happy for him. We used

1063
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 3: to joke during training camp it was like depressed Marty

1064
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: Map who, like you, kind of trudge out halfway through practice.

1065
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 3: So excited for him to get back out there today

1066
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 3: and be good.

1067
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: I hope that's an easy transition. And you know what

1068
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 4: else is easy? Mike, what's up? Bud Light?

1069
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 12: It is?

1070
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Speaker 4: On Patriots. One of my TVs died really, Yeah, my

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Speaker 4: biggest one.

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Speaker 3: How long you got it?

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Speaker 4: I probably had it for eight years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I know, stuff's not supposed to last as long as

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Speaker 5: it likes.

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Speaker 4: It just won't power on anymore. I mean it, it's

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00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: just dead.

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Speaker 3: When I worked at Sony, I used the Sony employee discount.

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00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: This is like two thousand and eight. I bought a

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Speaker 3: while forty two inch.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It probably fifteen hundred bucks at the time, and it's

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Speaker 3: still going. So I guess back then they things lasted

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Speaker 3: the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: This is a Visio, which are pretty good. It's a

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Speaker 4: fifty five inch. Yeah, so now I gotta buy any

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Speaker 4: but you can get them oh yeah, oh yeah, you

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Speaker 4: can get a couple hundred bucks, three hundred bucks. Yeah,

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00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: but I want to get a good one. So if

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Speaker 4: anyone has a you know what a suggestion, speed queen

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Speaker 4: a fifty five inch TV, let me know, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: just brand or whatever.

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Speaker 7: I don't like the LCD, We've got to go with

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Speaker 7: the Amazon Omni TVs.

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Speaker 4: They're amazing Amazon Omni Why are they amazing?

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00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 7: Voice activated, great picture, it lightweight.

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00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 4: Easy to for HDMI ports.

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00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 7: Come on, now, you plug everything into it.

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00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: Is the cheap. How expensive are they?

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00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 7: It depends what size you want there, the fifty five

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00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 7: inches probably four hundred bucks.

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00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so what is it again?

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00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 7: Amazon omniy the Amazon Amazon Omni Fire TV, Omni Fire TV.

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Speaker 4: I don't need the fire though, that's just a brand.

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Speaker 4: I know. I don't need that kill fire. You just

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Speaker 4: don't use it if you don't know. Oh yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I turn the Wi Fi off of my TV.

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Speaker 5: Oh hello, good morning, good afternoon. Friends.

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Speaker 14: Look excited to get back on the practice field and

1158
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 14: go out there and compete and get ready to play

1159
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 14: against a good football team. Don't want to sleep on

1160
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 14: these guys. I know they have some struggles and things

1161
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 14: like that, but this is still a very good football

1162
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 14: team with weapons across the board offensively, defensively, and also

1163
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 14: a special team. So, like I said, excited, I think

1164
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 14: the guys, you know, they came in today. You know,

1165
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 14: we changed the page. We're moving forward. We understand what

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00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 14: we have to do to win this game. And just

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00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 14: like every week, we have those targets out there. We

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 14: just have to go out there and execute and hit

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Speaker 14: those targets. And that's what we fully anticipate. I know

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Speaker 14: a lot of you guys are wondering about Dave Andrews,

1171
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 14: so you know it's already out there at this point.

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00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 14: It's going to require surgery and he will probably go

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00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 14: on IR and be done for the season. Uh, fire away,

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Speaker 14: I'll think out to you guys.

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Speaker 4: It's tough.

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Speaker 14: You know, one thing about Dave, you know the first

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Speaker 14: word I would say, it's just toughness. You know, he's

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00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 14: a guy who he's been a captain here, he has

1179
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 14: great leadership ability, he's tough, he's able to communicate across

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Speaker 14: the front. And it's definitely a huge loss.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 14: With that being said, we got to you know, next

1183
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 14: man up, next man up. And I know that sounds

1184
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 14: very cliche, but that's the mentality. Fully expect him to

1185
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 14: still be around the building and you know, maybe he'll

1186
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 14: be a future coach at some point in time, but

1187
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 14: we'll see.

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00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 5: That's exactly what's your pee.

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 14: I thought Nick did a decent job stepping in there

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00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 14: at this past game, and you know now that he'll

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00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 14: get more reps during practice, you expect them to continue

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00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 14: to get better every single day, and so that's our expectation.

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Speaker 13: You mentioned earlier this week that you and Ellie were

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00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 13: going to meet talk about seven alignment and stuff people

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00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 13: that were out there and talk about that.

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Speaker 8: Any updates of that about PUST we bring you somebody

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Speaker 8: in not.

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Speaker 14: A this not at this current time, and we talked

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Speaker 14: about the The question here was about the veteran offensive

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Speaker 14: lineman that we're out there and so we're not we're

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00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 14: not on that at this current time.

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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 5: Is the position of center at this offense as far as.

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Speaker 14: Being kind of the one in charge of it's very important,

1204
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 14: you know, I always say, you know, you know, you

1205
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 14: want to see the same picture, and it starts with

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00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 14: the center, and it starts with the quarterback and the

1207
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 14: center and the quarterback. I would say, so it's It's

1208
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 14: definitely important as far as being on the same page

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00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 14: I D and the mic points and all those stuff. So,

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 14: you know, with that being said, you know Nick, you

1211
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 14: know he can do it. He's proves that he can

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 14: do it, and hopefully he continues to get better.

1213
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Speaker 5: Understanding to the offense, how does his injury affect the player?

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00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 14: For Drake, I would say those are those are independent

1215
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 14: of each other. You know, you always want to have

1216
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 14: a veteran center in there. But with that said that,

1217
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 14: they don't, they don't tie in together.

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Speaker 15: How do you let uh, how do you not let

1219
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 15: a woe is Me attitude take hold when you see

1220
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 15: the injury starting to affect the key guys.

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Speaker 14: For us, it's about mental toughness, it's about mental agility,

1222
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 14: and we won't be rigid in our thought and we're

1223
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 14: going to try to put the best team out there.

1224
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 14: I'm not really a big woe as me or or

1225
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 14: anything like that. We knew going into the season we

1226
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 14: would take our lumps, and even after the first game

1227
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 14: when we beat Cincinnati, we understood that this is unsustainable

1228
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 14: as far as winning that way. With that being said,

1229
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 14: there have been things that we've done well, especially after

1230
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 14: the first two games, you know, we don't you know,

1231
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 14: those were competitive games. The third one wasn't so competitive.

1232
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 14: In this past one, you know, we still had an

1233
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 14: opportunity as bad as we played, And I think it

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00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 14: still comes down to execution.

1235
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Speaker 15: Bro, look at your cson now four games through.

1236
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: Are you not playing Drake because you're concerned.

1237
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 16: He's gonna get hurt?

1238
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 14: I'm not really thinking about that. Look, Jacoby is our starter.

1239
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 14: He's our starting quarterback this week, and I think Jacoby

1240
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 14: has showed a lot of toughtons out there. You know,

1241
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 14: going back, even looking at the film, there are there

1242
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 14: are times where you know an average guy would not

1243
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 14: be able to get back up, and I think he's

1244
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 14: he's done a good job with that.

1245
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 13: All considered, Giving Antonio Gibson start this weekend, given Rimandre's following.

1246
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 14: Issues, that's definitely, uh, that's definitely under consideration. And I've

1247
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 14: had multiple conversations with Ramandre. But look, we can't preach

1248
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 14: that ball security is job security and still have him

1249
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 14: out there the majority of the time. So I think

1250
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 14: it sends a stronger message to the players that there

1251
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 14: are certain things that we just can't do to win,

1252
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 14: especially with the team that we have today point of that, Weda.

1253
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 5: So are you at the same point.

1254
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Keon just on the first couple of third downs there,

1255
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: he doesn't always.

1256
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 5: Play there, That's right, he doesn't.

1257
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 14: Look one thing I would say about Keon and and

1258
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 14: once again, if it's I mean, if it was something

1259
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 14: that was happening on a week to week basis, like

1260
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 14: the fumbling with Romandre, that's a little bit different with Kon.

1261
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Speaker 14: And I would say as far as the edge is concerned,

1262
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 14: it's it's not just one person, it's it's been different

1263
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 14: people every single week. Look, if you were to take

1264
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 14: a snapshot, and I think it's important to remember that

1265
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 14: we are still early in the season. But Keon has

1266
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 14: been one of our most impactful players and we look

1267
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 14: forward to his continued growth. But again, it comes down

1268
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 14: to execution, It comes down to discipline, It comes down

1269
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 14: to doing what's right for the team and not for

1270
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 14: the individual. And I would say, you know, when you

1271
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 14: go back and look at some of those plays, you

1272
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 14: know you think, look, we're not good on third down.

1273
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 14: Why It's not because we're not covering guys. It's because

1274
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 14: we're giving the quarterback a chance to get outside the

1275
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 14: pocket and I think we just need to play better

1276
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 14: as a team and not as individuals for us to

1277
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 14: have a good chance at winning games.

1278
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 5: Does that say, rise, you have to rub the lack

1279
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 5: of execution maybe on the defensive side of the ball

1280
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 5: where you're coming from what you've seen so far, especially

1281
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 5: in the last couple of games as a team.

1282
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 14: And look, I take one hundred percent accountability for that,

1283
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 14: Like it's my job to get these guys on the

1284
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 14: roster ready to go out there and play at a

1285
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 14: high level, and the last couple of weeks we just

1286
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 14: have not done that.

1287
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 5: So I'll take that one. And now great moments in history.

1288
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: We're chomping at the bit getting ready for the season.

1289
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 4: Is it champing or chomping at the bit?

1290
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 12: Eric?

1291
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 5: Chumping? That's a good question, Fred, I've always heard as chomping,

1292
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 5: but it's spelled champing, So I don't know.

1293
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 6: I really don't know which one is accurate.

1294
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 4: I think I did not know that.

1295
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 5: Is it butt naked or buck naked?

1296
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 4: I've always it's a good one. I think I'm looking

1297
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: at you with a stare because.

1298
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: That's a great one. I think it's a bottled isn't

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Speaker 3: it buck naked?

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Speaker 5: Naked, isn't it?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 4: Who's a buck naked? As an a tear is naked

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Speaker 4: and you're like a buck?

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Speaker 7: Make more sense?

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Speaker 6: It would?

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Speaker 3: This is this is a whole topic.

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Speaker 4: I have it right now there.

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Speaker 3: This is a whole topic on Miriam Webster dot com.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 3: While both bucknaked and butt naked are used to describe

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Speaker 3: someone who is fully nude, buck naked is.

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Speaker 4: The older of the pair buck naked, fuck naked. But

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Speaker 4: what about the champion and the chopping?

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Speaker 5: That's another great moment?

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Speaker 4: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered eight five five

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Speaker 4: past five hundred is the tpx hutline and the email

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Speaker 4: address is podcasts plural at patriots dot com. So podcast

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Speaker 4: plural at patriots dot com. We had some people who

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Speaker 4: were unsure of that. You can understand that it's podcasts

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Speaker 4: as in several at patriots dot com. So, but if

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Speaker 4: you do web radio at patriots dot com, we'll get

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Speaker 4: them as well. So don't have no fear we're gonna

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Speaker 4: get your emails. But let's get to some of the

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Speaker 4: calls and emails. We'll go to Mike in Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 4: What's up Mike.

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Speaker 17: Doing?

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Speaker 10: Well, how are you guys doing.

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Speaker 4: I didn't ask, but okay, great, well you said what's up?

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Speaker 10: So just wanted to say I was doing well. Okay,

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Speaker 10: I have to say I am super I was super

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Speaker 10: excited and super bummed to hear that you're in Campbell

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01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 10: because that's and that steakhouse is literally down the street

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Speaker 10: from where I live. Oh, admitted to that to the

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Speaker 10: Illuminati Dinner.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sorry I didn't think of you, but how

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Speaker 4: would I have known? No, have you been to the steakhouse?

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Speaker 10: Steak I'm not a big steakhouse guy, but there used

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Speaker 10: to be an LB steakhouse there and I remember going

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01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 10: there once with like four people and the bill ended

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Speaker 10: up being like twelve hundred dollars.

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Speaker 4: Well, your neck of the woods man, everything is expensive,

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Speaker 4: and you know stric Valley. This is South Bay.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, so wanting to raise to Puerto Rico. But

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Speaker 10: I've been in the South Bay for like ten twelve

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Speaker 10: years now. So I went to the twenty sixteen game,

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 10: and then I went to the game on Sunday as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, Levi Stadium, you know, we were

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Speaker 4: there in sixteen. I think it's a nice stadium. I

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01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 4: mean it's very I mean, it's very smartly laid out.

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Speaker 4: The press box is excellent. You can you know, it's

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Speaker 4: very nice. It's clean, well kept, so.

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Speaker 5: From a technological standpoint, it should be. Yeah.

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01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 4: Right, it's a little above the rest, right, but I'm

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Speaker 4: just you know, I'm sure you know the club.

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Speaker 5: So it's funny. Zoe yeah called it a dump.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Mike Reese strongly pushed back and is in your camp. Yeah,

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 5: said it's really nice place to watch a game, and

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Speaker 5: from a press box standpoint, very excessive.

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Speaker 4: I think Zoe was just commenting on the outer facact

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Speaker 4: of the stadium.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 5: With Zoe too, is all about tradition. So we got

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01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 5: to be in like Candlestick with like you know, a

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Speaker 5: mess and you got to leave the press box and

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Speaker 5: walk down the stands. As Mike Reeves talked about when

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Speaker 5: it was when he brought this up, like because that's

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Speaker 5: the way it was in the eighties. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Joe Montana playing in this place, it's like uniform football.

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Speaker 3: It's like he's in the room.

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Speaker 5: No, but I mean it, he called it a dump.

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Speaker 5: I was like, it's like brand new.

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Speaker 3: I just hope the internet worked well.

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Speaker 6: Like that's what I said. Like the Internet at that place.

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Speaker 5: From a technology standpoint, you can't possibly screw that.

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01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 6: Up and dial up.

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Speaker 4: I think they did a good job with this stadium anyway,

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Speaker 4: go ahead, So fun fact.

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Speaker 10: Do you know that that stadium, the design of it

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Speaker 10: was originally meant to replace Candlestick, So the exact same design.

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Speaker 10: That's why it's got that weird wall on one side

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Speaker 10: of the stadium. Yeah, that was the side that was

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 10: supposed to be to the mountain and Candlestick.

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Speaker 16: And then when they couldn't.

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Speaker 10: Get it approved and decided to move it them to

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Speaker 10: Santa Clara, they didn't want to pay for the whole

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Speaker 10: redesign of the stadium, so they used the exact same design.

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Speaker 10: That's why the side is so weird.

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Speaker 4: Okay, a little trivia there.

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Speaker 10: So I never thought about putting together a bill of

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Speaker 10: rights for fans.

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Speaker 4: Have we ever thought of putting about on a bill

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Speaker 4: of rights for fans? Sounds like you're want to start

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Speaker 4: a union.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a big fan of telling people how they

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Speaker 5: should think. Yeah, I have enough of that and that's

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Speaker 5: not what we should think.

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Speaker 10: But what are our rights? Because right now I went

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Speaker 10: to this game that was down the street, even with that,

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Speaker 10: it cost me about five hundred dollars fall together. I've

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Speaker 10: already made arrangements to go to the Tennessee game and

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 10: to go to the Chicago game and all that together,

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 10: ticket to travel, airfare and stuff like that. Where in

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 10: the five k territory if not more? And you know

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01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 10: I mentioned this to you before, Fritz, Like, I'm having

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 10: a hard time justifying it to my significant other because then,

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01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 10: like she's like, you're getting all frustrated. Even when you

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01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 10: go to the game. You see Drake May he's right there.

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01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 10: They're not even putting them in you know, why are

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01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 10: you doing this? And then it got me to thinking

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01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 10: it's like, I mean, what are what are our rights

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01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 10: as far as expecting something from the organization of putting

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 10: a better product out there on the field. Well, we're

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 10: putting in money, We're putting in time.

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Speaker 4: That sorry, Fred, go ahead, Well you express your right

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01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 4: by not putting in the money in time. You know,

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01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 4: if you're not liking what you're seeing to that extent towards,

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01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 4: stop spending the money. And that's how you express your

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01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 4: point of view. Or you can call this show and.

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01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 10: That that would make me less of a fan.

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it does make you less of

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01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 4: a fan. You know, like you said, not everyone's in

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01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 4: the same situation economic or time wise, work wise, whatever.

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 4: And you know, sometimes the amount of money or time

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: that you spend with your team is precious and if

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01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 4: it's not satisfying you, you have a right to spend

1428
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 4: that money in time somewhere else, and that's your right.

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01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 4: I don't think you need a piece of paper to

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01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 4: tell you that, but I but I totally agree. You know,

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01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: like some people might want to take a time out

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01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: right now and because they have other things.

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 5: But on the flip side, if you want to go

1434
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 5: to the games, that doesn't mean that that they need

1435
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 5: to do the things that you want them to do. No, Like, yeah,

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01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 5: it's not.

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: Five years, you get a refund.

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 5: I agree with. There's a lot of people that I

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01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 5: think are passionate fans that never go to games. Some

1440
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 5: of them just don't really want to go through the game.

1441
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 5: They enjoy their routine. Others aren't, as Fred said, are

1442
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 5: not in the same economic situation where they can afford

1443
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 5: to go to the game.

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like a little stock market. Instead of

1445
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 4: just money, you're investing your time money in emotion. Sometimes

1446
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 4: it pays off. The investment for the last twenty years

1447
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: has paid huge dividends for Patriots fans. Right now we're

1448
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 4: in the red, but we're hoping to get back into

1449
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 4: the Blacks soon enough.

1450
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 15: Okay, so.

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 10: I think that's reasonable. I just feel like not doing

1452
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 10: it when I have the opportunity to do so and

1453
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 10: hopefully get in on the ground floor, like you're saying,

1454
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 10: as an investment, get in on the ground floor and

1455
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 10: seeing you know, ny entry into the league development and

1456
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 10: then okay, this is our guy moving forward, and this

1457
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 10: is the guy that we're going to support with our time, money,

1458
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 10: energy and passion. But it was just really frustrating on Sunday,

1459
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 10: like sitting there and watching him and you know, and

1460
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 10: this is maybe a question for Evan because I really

1461
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 10: don't understand why he was basically standing behind the defense

1462
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 10: the entire time when the Patriots were on offense rather

1463
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 10: than being on the other side, maybe seeing where Brissette

1464
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 10: is steeen or maybe next to Avp so he can

1465
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 10: get a better understanding. But I'll leave that for ever

1466
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 10: to see what was the reasoning behind that.

1467
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks Mike.

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01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 5: You know, I will say I don't really know why

1469
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 5: anybody would have a reason for where why Drake May

1470
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 5: stood where he stood. He's a piece other than Drake May.

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like.

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 5: He's listening to everything, right, he's got the he's got

1473
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 5: the earpiece in his ear. I just don't know. Sometimes

1474
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 5: I don't understand.

1475
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 4: I will say this about the fan thing. You know,

1476
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 4: if you're not risking your relationship because you're spending too

1477
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 4: much time with the Patriots, or risking not paying bills,

1478
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 4: if you can afford to do it, if you stick

1479
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 4: it out now and still go to the games and

1480
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: still then when they get better, you can say, you

1481
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 4: know what, I stuck with him. I was there, you know.

1482
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 5: But you can also stick with him without going yeah,

1483
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 5: like again this whole thing, Like, you know, you're a

1484
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 5: stronger fan if you choose to shell out your money

1485
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 5: and time and go I don't think that. Like, how

1486
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 5: many years was Mike on the West Coast? You'd be

1487
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 5: hard pressed to find anybody more passionate about the Patriots

1488
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 5: than Mike was before he even started working here. How

1489
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 5: many games did you get to go to in person?

1490
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: Not a lot?

1491
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 3: Not a lot, I mean about one a year. Maybe

1492
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 3: there are a couple of years, so it was hard.

1493
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 4: But like, but to me, for someone that was on

1494
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 4: the West coast, that's that's but he.

1495
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 5: Went, he went to a game because they were on

1496
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 5: the West coast, but General or Seattle or something.

1497
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: But you know, you took the opportunity when you could.

1498
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: You know that to me.

1499
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 5: But he's living and dying with the team every week,

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01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 5: I know, every week. Even as disappointed as he was

1501
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 5: with those twelve and four finishes.

1502
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 6: It was tough.

1503
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 4: General, just sick of them.

1504
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: I think the fans should have the right to bear takes,

1505
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 3: Like you can call in and say whatever you want.

1506
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 5: Mike and Mike. That's your bill of rights is to

1507
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 5: call in and bitch to me and Fred and Mike

1508
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 5: and Evan about like why is may not playing or

1509
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 5: you know, let's be why why would they even be

1510
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 5: thinking about playing may?

1511
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 12: You know?

1512
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 5: Like that's your bill of rights. I mean nothing else.

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 6: Let us have it.

1514
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 4: Mike's and San Antonio. What's up Mike Mike's today?

1515
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 18: Hey fellows, how you're doing good? Good to good to

1516
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 18: speak to you being in cowboys country and that's all

1517
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,919
Speaker 18: I hear about, so it really gets old. But appreciate

1518
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 18: you guys.

1519
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 16: Hey, I had a question for you guys, And.

1520
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 18: Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering. So every time

1521
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 18: I hear these these interviews, I see that the media

1522
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 18: doesn't ask pointed questions, and as members of the media,

1523
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 18: I'm just curious what your guys thoughts are like if

1524
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 18: pointed questions are asked, is it detrimental to the person

1525
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 18: or the member of media asking like, Hey, you guys

1526
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 18: haven't done anything to rectify the offensive line? Why, like

1527
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 18: really holding then accountable.

1528
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm just curious that that particular question was asked in

1529
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 5: the summer to Elliott Wolfe. Greg Bernard asked it.

1530
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.

1531
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 10: It.

1532
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 18: Seems like they kind of dance around it a little bit, didn't,

1533
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 18: you know. It's you know, just kind of frustrating.

1534
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I mean I'm going to give Greg Bernard

1535
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 5: the credit for it, because he asked a very pointed question.

1536
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 5: It went on way longer than it needed to. There's

1537
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 5: my shot at Greg. Thanks. His question was you had

1538
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 5: made all these comments about the offensive line and didn't

1539
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 5: address the left tackle spot like that was basically summarizing

1540
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 5: his question. It was as pointed as you could be.

1541
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 5: I understand what Mike is saying, because sometimes to answer

1542
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 5: his question, Yeah, it can be difficult to ask those

1543
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 5: difficult questions and sometimes there's a blowback, you know, especially now,

1544
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 5: like there's a lot of fans now that don't want

1545
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 5: to hear that. A lot of fans don't want to

1546
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 5: hear negativity around their team and they take their anger

1547
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 5: out on the media. Why are you bringing that up,

1548
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 5: you know, as it like you should be supporting Vederian

1549
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 5: Lowe rather than saying they don't have a left tackle.

1550
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 5: Some fans do that now. It shouldn't affect you as

1551
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 5: a journalist. If you're doing your job the right way,

1552
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 5: you shouldn't worry about it. But the fact of the

1553
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 5: matter is what Mike is talking about. We have another

1554
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 5: mic coming up on the on the screen. But what

1555
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 5: Mike is talking about does happen. And I think sometimes

1556
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 5: especially younger writers, they get on their phones and they

1557
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 5: get on Twitter and they see the interactions like with me,

1558
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 5: like I've been called fat, bald and old for twenty

1559
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 5: five years, so like it just I don't really even

1560
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 5: look at it anymore that much. It just kind of

1561
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 5: glosses over. But some people don't want to see that

1562
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 5: negativity around them, and they want to sort of be

1563
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 5: one of the you know, I want to be part

1564
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 5: of you, you know, And I think that that kind

1565
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 5: of clouds your questions sometimes.

1566
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 4: I don't think. I think sports journalism is there's very

1567
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 4: few that are actually practicing it.

1568
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 5: I totally agree, yeah, And I wouldn't put myself in

1569
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 5: that category anymore because I'm not covering the day to

1570
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 5: day people, but for the team. Well, no, like for

1571
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 5: for fifteen years, you know, with Brian Morey and myself

1572
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 5: and then Andy Hart, we were covering the team as

1573
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: journalists all stars. I mean, you know, I'm more of

1574
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 5: a like analytical now than I than I am covering

1575
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 5: the team, but we used to do that all the time.

1576
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 5: You need to ask pointed questions.

1577
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 3: Ev and I were talking a little bit about Nick Underhill,

1578
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 3: who went, you know, down to New Orleans and create

1579
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 3: his own site and it's having a lot of success.

1580
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 3: And you know, Nick had said that just there's not

1581
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 3: a lot, there's not the volume of people covering the team.

1582
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 3: And I know New York always gets up brought up

1583
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 3: as an example of a team where pointycap questions get

1584
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 3: asked a lot. I'm just wondering what the other media

1585
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 3: landscapes are like around the other NFL teams, especially where

1586
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 3: I'd say most of them are probably smaller than people

1587
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: that cover here are this. Are those smaller groups better

1588
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 3: at holding their feet to the fire a little bit

1589
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 3: and asking those pointed questions.

1590
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 6: Or is it like why here?

1591
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean?

1592
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 10: They?

1593
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 19: I mean, there's a long history here with like Bill

1594
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 19: and the media and the fans who sided with Bill

1595
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 19: and you know, spent twenty years killing Felger and Mazu

1596
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 19: and defending Bill in the organization, and now those people

1597
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 19: are killing the organization and the coach, and it's like

1598
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 19: everything's kind of flipped, like it's a weird dynamic.

1599
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the weird part on it's good good study,

1600
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 5: good case study. I think the weird part is because

1601
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 5: they were so successful that the negativity was drowned out

1602
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 5: and unwarranted. Right, But there was there was, but there

1603
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 5: was there was no need for twenty years to hold

1604
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 5: anyone's feet to the fire. Whereas in Philadelphia, in Dallas,

1605
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 5: you know, in these markets that I would consider to

1606
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 5: be really strong football media markets, obviously the Jets and Giants,

1607
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 5: then they didn't win like that for twenty straight years,

1608
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 5: So they want to know why when you're not winning,

1609
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 5: and why are you're not winning? And those are huge

1610
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 5: media markets, look like huge press corps, like Philadelphia is

1611
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 5: as big as this, and Dallas is certainly, you know,

1612
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 5: as big the New York's dwarf, the Patriots contingent, and

1613
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 5: they ask all those questions. And I think it's because,

1614
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 5: like the Borgeouses, the Mannixes, the Hobbies, Hobson, Ron Hobson,

1615
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 5: when those guys sort of wrapped up their career toward

1616
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 5: the beginning of the dynasty, they were replaced by young

1617
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 5: guys that knew nothing but dominance. Younger guys. I shouldn't

1618
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 5: say you just young guys, and there was no need,

1619
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 5: There was no need to ask, you know, anything that

1620
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 5: was remotely negative when we didn't.

1621
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 4: Adam from Louisiana a little listener on Listener Crime. We

1622
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: always love that I wasn't able to buy every single

1623
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 4: player's jersey. There were a few on the practice squad

1624
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 4: that got cut before I could buy their jersey? Does

1625
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 4: that make me less of a fan? That guy asking

1626
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: me about a Bill of rights just wanted to flex

1627
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 4: on other people that he was going to all those

1628
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 4: away games.

1629
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was I.

1630
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 5: Gotta say, And and I like Mike knows that. He

1631
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 5: might's been a lot. I don't know if you know

1632
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 5: Mike and Puerto Rican, he's been around. I've noticed now

1633
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 5: he's one of our one of our really really loyal listeners.

1634
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 5: I thought that was a little odd, Like the fact

1635
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 5: that I go to games gives me more of a voice.

1636
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 4: James Pettigrew the most.

1637
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 5: Is this going to start a trend?

1638
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 4: Poor Mike, James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan of

1639
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 4: the world, says. The Patriots Bill of Rights is like

1640
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 4: the Miranda Rights. You have the right to remain silent.

1641
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 5: Poor Mike.

1642
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, back to the team.

1643
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 5: Has got something on it. He's got that.

1644
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 6: I got a lot of things though, I got a

1645
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 6: lot of a lot of things on my mind.

1646
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 16: I don't know.

1647
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm still kind of like on the.

1648
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm ready to make a T shirt.

1649
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 5: I'm interested.

1650
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: This is more about the Bill and the media thing,

1651
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 3: just because it was fun. It was fun when you

1652
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 3: had Felger and Maz jabbing at Bill, and Bill has

1653
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 3: this great demeanor of being gruff and not answering questions.

1654
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 3: But Bill also had a lot of success, so you had,

1655
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: you know, the dynamic of a successful coach who is

1656
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 3: you know, very tight lipped and you know, does things

1657
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 3: the way he does it. And you have Felger and

1658
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 3: mas and those types and you know going at him

1659
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 3: hard and but you always kind of knew, like, but

1660
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 3: the Patriots still could win these games, you know. And

1661
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: now it's just like it's changed for me, and sometimes

1662
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 3: it feels like we're just like, yeah, these guys don't

1663
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 3: really they're new, like they.

1664
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 6: Don't really know what they're doing, and they're still kind

1665
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 6: of killing them.

1666
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 3: Like Bill, it's just not as more, it's not as

1667
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: much fun because there's not as much pushback yet from

1668
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 3: the football side of things. Like that's kind of where

1669
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: I'm still at.

1670
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 5: I'll just tell you here. Because Felger was a beat

1671
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 5: writer for years. Yeah he wasn't doing it. Yeah he wasn't.

1672
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 5: He wasn't hammered away because they were successful.

1673
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 4: Was in their pocket.

1674
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 5: They were successful. Now, I think when you go to

1675
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 5: the like the second half of the Dynasty, and you're

1676
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 5: like you're going under the premise of well, you know, well,

1677
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 5: Bill Cutt Lawyer and Maloya and they won the Super Bowl, right,

1678
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 5: and that becomes the basis for every single move they

1679
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 5: make after that. Felger specifically would say no, like we

1680
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 5: take this on a case by case basis if you would,

1681
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 5: if you agree with this move, agree with it, but

1682
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 5: don't just say it's right, because well, the last time

1683
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 5: they did it, it worked. It's like, you know, we

1684
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 5: resurrected Corey Dillon's career. Doesn't mean that's going to happen

1685
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 5: with Albert Haynesworth perfect, perfect, you know, and he wasn't

1686
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 5: afraid to do that.

1687
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were just more suitable adversaries.

1688
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 6: That you know, like right now, it just feels kind

1689
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 6: of like they're one and three.

1690
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: This coaching staff, it's you know, a bumpy star for

1691
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: first time guys all doing stuff and so it's just

1692
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: kind of and the other side of the coin is

1693
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 3: so well versed in poking holes and everything, and you know,

1694
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 3: any little bit in a press conference that boom, you know,

1695
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: like and it's they're not ready.

1696
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 5: They're under onto Cincinnati. Right, So it's week five of

1697
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen. Deonto Cincinnati press conference was sort of I

1698
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 5: don't know what's what's the right word, ignited, by Albert

1699
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 5: Breer for asking a lot of very pointed questions and

1700
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 5: Bill wasn't having it, and he just kept saying, We're

1701
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 5: on to Cincinnati. That's how that all originated. There was

1702
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 5: all the questions that we don't ask, and when I

1703
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 5: say we, I'm not saying I don't. I don't ask

1704
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 5: him either, and I don't ask those kinds of questions.

1705
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 5: But Albert Breer was really going at him on Brady

1706
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 5: at the time there was a ten year gap and

1707
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 5: like are they ever gonna win again? By win win

1708
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 5: at all? Those were a lot of questions that that

1709
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 5: Albert asked and probably cost him a relationship because he

1710
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 5: was pretty tight with them at the time and he

1711
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 5: was persona non grounded so that the other part of it, Albert,

1712
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 5: but do you remember that friend?

1713
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure do? Uh CJ's and case, what's up? CJ?

1714
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 8: Hey?

1715
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 10: What's up?

1716
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 3: Guys?

1717
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 5: Hey?

1718
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 16: I wanted to do?

1719
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 17: Like what do you think is gonna is more likely

1720
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 17: to happen? First scenario is first week in November comes along,

1721
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 17: and we are more likely to be talking about how

1722
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,719
Speaker 17: traded away from talent to build up for the draft,

1723
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 17: or are we more likely to be talking about Drake

1724
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 17: May starting and how he's progressing.

1725
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 5: The second one. I think as the season goes on,

1726
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 5: we're gonna be more likely talking about Drake May in

1727
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 5: his progress.

1728
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 4: I hope, I agree. Yeah, yeah, what do you think?

1729
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 4: He got his answer and done?

1730
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get in and out real quick.

1731
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 4: All right, So let's go to Vermont, Mike, what's up?

1732
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 11: Yes?

1733
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 8: First off, I love my Patriots no matter what. I'll

1734
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 8: sit here and watch them lose if I have to.

1735
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 8: I'm just a diarn Patriots fan. Now my question is,

1736
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 8: do you think we'll get to team May play all

1737
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 8: this year?

1738
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I do. I think it's gonna happen soon.

1739
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 16: I want to see what he can do.

1740
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you're what we all do, Mike.

1741
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's gonna happen soon.

1742
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 6: I do too.

1743
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Jacoby presaid, I think he's been sacked fifteen

1744
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 3: times in four games, So one way or another, I

1745
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 3: think track May is gonna get in there.

1746
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 4: Thanks, Mike, I just say too.

1747
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 3: Like the other thing, go back to the fan thing,

1748
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 3: Like I just talking about going to games and like

1749
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 3: I just feel like the Patriots never give me and

1750
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm just talking fandies like another thing again, like I'm

1751
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 3: already okay like those that twenty years of watching football

1752
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 3: in those games, and I don't know, I don't think

1753
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 3: I could ask for more as a fan, like think

1754
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: getting that and I understand we want them to be

1755
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 3: good again and that'll be fun, but you kind of

1756
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: feel like you got to earn your stripes again and

1757
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: it's never going to get back to that level.

1758
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 5: It can be really frustrating to like be good and

1759
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 5: not quite get over the hump and all that stuff.

1760
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 5: But like I just have never felt like because I

1761
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 5: go to games, I'm owed something like I go to

1762
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: against because I want to go to games. I enjoyed

1763
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 5: the games and I was a season ticket holder here

1764
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 5: before Fred hired me, and in ninety six I went

1765
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 5: to I want to say that I went to eleven games.

1766
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 5: I think they had like the Jets and Giants both

1767
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 5: at the Mental Lands that year he went. I went

1768
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 5: to the super Bowl, you know, the playoff games. Like

1769
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 5: I went to a lot of games that year, but

1770
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 5: I didn't like leave the super Bowl and say they

1771
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 5: owe me more. Yeah, they will be a better performance today,

1772
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 5: Like I never once thought of it that way.

1773
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 4: I think there might be you know, there's some fan

1774
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 4: bases that you know, if I'm going to be a

1775
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 4: season ticket holder, at least I want to know that

1776
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 4: ownership is trying to win and they're doing everything they

1777
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 4: can to feel the team that's competitive. I think the

1778
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 4: fans are owed that, you know, I.

1779
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 5: But see to me is like that would lead me

1780
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 5: to like the Red Sox right now, Like, if you

1781
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 5: feel like they're not doing that, you're not old anything,

1782
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 5: don't go. Like if you lose faith that your team

1783
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 5: is doing whatever it can to win, right then that's

1784
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 5: the time you should step back and say I'm out.

1785
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 4: Right and and but to Mike's point, if you do that,

1786
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 4: don't feel like you're any less of a fan doing that, and.

1787
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 5: Don't feel like you're owed something like if you feel

1788
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 5: like you go and you're owed more of a commitment,

1789
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 5: then stop going. And that was the advice that you gave.

1790
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 4: He gave.

1791
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 3: It's like the hard part because you can't really choose, Like,

1792
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, I am going to be a

1793
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 3: Patriots fan no matter what. Like when I lived in California,

1794
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 3: there was a period of time I'm like, maybe I

1795
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 3: could be a Dodger fan, Like I'm just gonna start

1796
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 3: to follow the team, try to get into a little bit.

1797
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 3: I just I can never get invested.

1798
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. It's like, why do you follow

1799
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 4: the team?

1800
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 5: Why are you a fan?

1801
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 4: If your fan only to win Super Bowls? I don't

1802
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 4: know if that's really being a fan. Like, I know

1803
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 4: a lot of people who before the Red Sox finally

1804
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 4: broke through and one in two thousand and four, they

1805
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 4: kind of love being a Red Sox. Part of being

1806
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 4: a Red Sox fan was that, you know, we're never

1807
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 4: we can't get over that hump. It's always something, but

1808
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 4: they'll always wear that cap proudly and they love watching

1809
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 4: the team on TV. It was just being a Red Sox.

1810
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 6: Faneah, part of your identity, I mean.

1811
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 3: And that's like as much as it was fun watching them,

1812
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 3: when Super Bowls can do that, Like, I honestly think

1813
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 3: one of my favorite things of this whole experience, going

1814
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 3: back to being a blogger to being a fan to

1815
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 3: now you know, working for the organization, is the meeting

1816
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 3: all these people Patriots fans, I mean, going to Germany

1817
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 3: and you know, people coming up to us and you know,

1818
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 3: these people live on the other side of the world

1819
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 3: we don't know, but we share a bond suddenly with

1820
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 3: you know, kids coming down from England that came to

1821
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 3: see you know us and all that kind of stuff.

1822
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 4: I know, thank you.

1823
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 3: No, it's but even as a fan, when I was

1824
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 3: just you know, a blogger guy, it was just so

1825
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,560
Speaker 3: cool to go to a game in San Diego and

1826
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 3: be like, where's the Patriots tailgate and you find all

1827
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: these random people from all over the country. When you

1828
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: guys would do the meetups at the bar before the

1829
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 3: away games, you know, I went to one of those

1830
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: that to me was just the coolest part is having

1831
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 3: Seattle one Seattle.

1832
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were probably in the same Oh no, you

1833
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 4: walked right by me. I was like, there's Fred Kirsh.

1834
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 3: I didn't see Paul though.

1835
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if I don't know if it was

1836
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 5: the same one. I was definitely at one of those

1837
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 5: in Seattle. I don't know if it was.

1838
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't go to the I don't know

1839
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 4: if it was one at Seattle where I think it

1840
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 4: was our first one. It was so packed. This one

1841
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 4: was paying They left the bar left so much money

1842
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 4: on the table by not having enough help, I mean,

1843
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 4: people wanted to spend their money and they were waiting

1844
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 4: like half an hour.

1845
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 6: I think that's why. I think that's why I left them,

1846
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 6: Like I can't get a drinking.

1847
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 4: All they had to do was bring in like four

1848
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 4: or five more you know, waitresses, waiters and bartenders and

1849
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 4: they would have cleaned up.

1850
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 8: You know.

1851
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 5: I used to say, like when I was growing up,

1852
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 5: because like friends, right, like why are you a fan

1853
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,799
Speaker 5: of a team? Well, for me, I was just ingrained

1854
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 5: into Boston. I grew up here. So the four Boston

1855
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 5: teams are my four favorite teams. And I used to

1856
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 5: always get frustrated, like people be like the Bruins fans,

1857
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 5: the Bruins fans are the best, They're the most loyal,

1858
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 5: and I'm like, no, I think they're the dummies because

1859
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 5: there was a time where they absolutely refused to do

1860
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 5: what it took to compete at the highest level and

1861
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 5: they were content with just being okay. And then that changed, obviously,

1862
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 5: and they you know, when they got the rules changed

1863
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 5: in the lockout and all that stuff happened. It's boring,

1864
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 5: but just because like the fifteen thousand people that would

1865
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 5: show up at the garden every night, it doesn't make

1866
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 5: you better fans than the ones who say I'm frustrated

1867
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 5: that Jacobs won't do what it takes to Instead of

1868
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 5: being the Adams Division champs, he wants to be the

1869
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 5: Stanley Cup champs. You know, I don't think that makes

1870
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 5: you any better or worse of a fan. If you

1871
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 5: choose to go and do that, that's fine. But I

1872
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 5: used to argue, like, like you're a chump because they're

1873
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 5: not gonna do it. They're not gonna spend the money.

1874
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 5: And when they get good in eighty eight and ninety

1875
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 5: and they make some moves, they're just gonna let those

1876
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 5: guys go anyway. And that's exactly what they did.

1877
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 4: Valentin from Switzerland rights in on Podcasts dot com. I

1878
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 4: should say podcasts at Patriots dot com do what's best

1879
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 4: for the team and cut Mike Douss. The team is

1880
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 4: on a downward spiral since you hired him. Only kidding, Mike,

1881
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 4: I still like you. All those key injuries are simply

1882
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 4: the football gods punishing us every game that proset starts.

1883
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 4: I digress play may have a good one that's fun.

1884
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 6: Thanks a lot, appreciate it.

1885
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 5: So we were talking about media stuff a little bit,

1886
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 5: and I don't know if you guys are aware of

1887
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 5: this thing. Like Adam Schefter now they're talking about maybe

1888
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 5: replacing woj as like the NBA insider on ESPN. He's

1889
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 5: done that, like he's done a little NBA stuff. They

1890
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 5: sort of degraded him a little bit, but I like

1891
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 5: their premise here on one of my shows with Beatle

1892
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 5: and Zoe is taking over inside duties for the NBA.

1893
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 5: Does that prove that it's really not that hard? And

1894
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 5: I would say absolutely yes it does.

1895
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 4: It's just how do you just fall into that?

1896
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1897
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 5: Well, obviously they're gonna this is the guy. This is

1898
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 5: the guy you filter your infro. This is his cell

1899
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 5: phone number, so all the NBA gms, this is the

1900
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 5: guy you now leak your staff, right, which is you know?

1901
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 6: Now, it's a lot.

1902
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: Just focus on football, Shifter, I don't need everything.

1903
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 5: Chef talks about the baseball guy possibly doing it too,

1904
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 5: Jeff Passing like he might do it too, Like, so

1905
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 5: is it really because he was so good at what

1906
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 5: he did or you're just telling me now he's the

1907
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 5: guy everybody just well.

1908
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: It's probably Schefter obviously earned it all the contacts initially

1909
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 3: in football, but then like like, you.

1910
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 5: Couldn't take Paul Perillo off the street and say, well,

1911
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 5: ESPN's gonna hire him as their insider. All you gms

1912
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 5: now you context, it wouldn't work. You have to have

1913
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 5: a level of notoriety in order to do it if

1914
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 5: and obviously Chefter worked his way up to that.

1915
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 4: In the NFL, Ford and Savannah Georgia says, it might

1916
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 4: be right or wrong, but you guys telling the caller

1917
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 4: that he could use his voice by not buying a ticket.

1918
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 4: It's just one of the reasons that you are my

1919
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 4: favorite show. Major credit for always telling it how you

1920
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 4: see it, super refreshing. A credit to you all and

1921
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 4: the team for making space for a show this honest.

1922
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 4: I might get in trouble for that, actually, but we'll see.

1923
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't think. Yeah, I don't take

1924
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 5: it as literally as as that, but I understand. I know, yeah,

1925
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 5: the premise of what they're talking about there. But again,

1926
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 5: if you don't think you if it doesn't bring you enjoyment,

1927
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 5: I would say stop doing it. Like for me, yeah,

1928
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 5: like I went to every game because I loved it.

1929
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 5: Now I'm fifty six years old. Now, if I wasn't

1930
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 5: working here, anymore. I don't think i'd be doing tailgates

1931
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 5: every single Sunday. I would still go. I would go

1932
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 5: to a game or two, but I don't know if

1933
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 5: I would go to all eight home games like I

1934
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 5: did before you hired me.

1935
01:29:58,840 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think that.

1936
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I get what Mike's point was, because he's

1937
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 3: going to a game at a very specific point in

1938
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 3: time when Drake may sit in the bench, but otherwise,

1939
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 3: from the big picture of view, you've got the third

1940
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 3: overall picks sitting there. So no matter how the team

1941
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: looks at this exact second, like there should be a

1942
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 3: little bit excitement of just you, Like we say, you've

1943
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 3: still got your best club in the bag, and at

1944
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 3: some point, this kid's gonna come in. So, yes, you

1945
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 3: spent money to go to a game in San Francisco,

1946
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 3: but you know, in a couple of months, people are

1947
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 3: going to be spending money, hopefully to see this young

1948
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 3: kid play, and I think he'll be he'll be worth

1949
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 3: the price to go in at least, you know, out

1950
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 3: of the gate, we'll see. We know how hard it is,

1951
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 3: and it's so hard for all these guys. That's the

1952
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 3: other part. It's just this is it's really hard to

1953
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 3: build a winning franchise.

1954
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 4: And they're in a rebuild, so little patience. All right,

1955
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 4: back to the tps houtline. Patty's inn agawam, what's up? Patty? Patty?

1956
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 20: Hey you can hear me?

1957
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 6: Okay, Patty?

1958
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 20: All right? Sorry about that? Yeah on bluetooth. Yeah, I

1959
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 20: agree like you fan, however, you want a fan like

1960
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 20: you guys were talking about the Stocks, and I remember

1961
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 20: two thousand and three the Alcs when Boone hit that

1962
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 20: home run, Like I was at my friend John's South

1963
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 20: and I walked out of his house and sat in

1964
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 20: my car and just laughed for like five minutes because

1965
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 20: I the realization came to me, like wow, I may

1966
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 20: never see this team ever win a World Series because

1967
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 20: of how many people it's coming gone and it never happened.

1968
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 20: But that didn't sway me from from Dan a Red

1969
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 20: Sox fan. And you know, Deuce, I think you and

1970
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 20: I are roughly the same age. I turned forty eight

1971
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 20: in a week and I was I was with it,

1972
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 20: you know when they when they sucked, and like I

1973
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 20: said yesterday, like it doesn't matter to me if they're

1974
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 20: gonna win one game this year, if they're gonna win

1975
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 20: five or eight eights pushing it, but it doesn't matter.

1976
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 20: Like I'm still gonna watch every week. As much as

1977
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 20: I disagree with them sticking Jacobe out there, I want

1978
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 20: to see the new kid play, but it doesn't matter.

1979
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 20: That's not gonna deter me from watching this team and

1980
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 20: seeing how many other players are going to drop, you know,

1981
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 20: before the end of the season.

1982
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 5: But that's all.

1983
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 9: That was my two cents.

1984
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 20: And yes, you guys are the best.

1985
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Patty, I like the thought, I like

1986
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 5: the theory. Like I don't tell people how to fan. Yeah,

1987
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 5: you know, I have my thoughts and opinions, but like

1988
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 5: whatever is Oh yeah, I'm sure that Mike and I

1989
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 5: we were very passionate Patriots fans before we started working here,

1990
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 5: but we probably went about it in different ways.

1991
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 3: And that was something like another one and like after

1992
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 3: years of writing and following the team that I before

1993
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 3: I even decided here, was that people watch sports in

1994
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 3: their own way, and they're gonna react in their own way,

1995
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 3: and it's sports, and that's.

1996
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:49,560
Speaker 5: Mike and I have learned that in UH, in this

1997
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 5: new season, with our new UH, with our new pre

1998
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 5: and post game hosts.

1999
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 3: Sometimes it might be a little annoying how people watch

2000
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:55,919
Speaker 3: the sport.

2001
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 5: But I invite you to watch a game with our

2002
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 5: new hosts. Sometimes it's a different experience.

2003
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 4: Well, what I will say for some people, though, is

2004
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 4: when you start believing that the team is a reflection

2005
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 4: of you and like and you know, I'm embarrassed, you know,

2006
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 4: And it's like, guy, you know, you didn't just lose

2007
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 4: a kidney.

2008
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, but it's it okay to be proud. Yeah,

2009
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 15: so what's the different feel like you're part of?

2010
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 5: So you can be proud that they won six titles,

2011
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 5: but you can't be embarrassed that they went three and whatever.

2012
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 4: But to have to make you miserable, like, don't don't

2013
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 4: like I would suggest that don't let it ruin your life.

2014
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, there should be some balance. It

2015
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 5: is sports, after all, right.

2016
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 4: It's right.

2017
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 3: I do think too the winning streak and I mean,

2018
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 3: even speaking for myself personally, that a lot of people

2019
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 3: did start to associate their identity but success and you know,

2020
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 3: and and it's jarring now that that part of your

2021
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 3: identity of being awesome and kicking everybody's ass and you know,

2022
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 3: being the toast of the town, like that part of

2023
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,799
Speaker 3: your identity doesn't exist anymore.

2024
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 4: Earlier in the show, Mike, you were in the locker

2025
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 4: room putting Ben Gay on, but Fraser came out with

2026
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 4: a list of percentages of what could happen if Drake

2027
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 4: May played, and kind of to prove your point, the

2028
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 4: point that he shouldn't play at this point.

2029
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 5: It's a good email, seriously.

2030
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 4: A couple of reactions to that. Jordan writes in Yeah,

2031
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 4: Fraser has no idea what he's talking about. He wanted

2032
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 4: to say, you guys have no common sense, then proceeded

2033
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 4: to throw out some bogus percentages picked out of thin air.

2034
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 4: Drake May is mentally a lot stronger than Max Jones.

2035
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 4: He'll be fine. If he starts to make bad habits.

2036
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 4: It's not a big deal. We expect that that. He's

2037
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 4: a lot like Josh Allen in year one. If you

2038
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 4: miss out on starting Drake May this year, you'll be

2039
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 4: going into year two blind. You won't know anything about

2040
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: him or your offense. And at the end of the day,

2041
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 4: this is a business. You need to sell tickets. You

2042
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,440
Speaker 4: know who sells tickets. Drake May. He wants some percentages

2043
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 4: one hundred percent chance of learning who Drake May is.

2044
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 4: If you start him this year, one hundred percent chance

2045
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 4: you go to year two with some direction, one hundred

2046
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 4: percent chance more ticket sales.

2047
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 5: That's real. The last one is I'm going to be

2048
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 5: fair to Fraser on that. So Mike, he had some

2049
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 5: percentages like he gets hurt, you know, twenty five percent.

2050
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 5: You know it wasn't get hurt, it was serious injury

2051
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 5: that impacts his career twenty five percent, and then like

2052
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 5: thirty five percent, like he gets mentally beat down and whatnot.

2053
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna put I'm gonna defend Fraser and just

2054
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 5: say on this email, how do you know that Drake

2055
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 5: May is mentally tougher.

2056
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 4: Than Mac Jones right until he's tested?

2057
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, how do you know he's going to be

2058
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 5: like Josh Allen at this point? Like I would just

2059
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 5: just like I can't blindly say that Drake May is

2060
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 5: going to get hurt if he plays the way Fraser said,

2061
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 5: and it's going to be serious and impact his career.

2062
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 5: I can't say that because I don't know. I can't

2063
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 5: say this either, even though this is what I want

2064
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 5: to see happen. I want made to play, but I

2065
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 5: can't tell you all those things are going to happen.

2066
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 5: If he does, I will say that they will sell tickets,

2067
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 5: more tickets and the making of selling tickets. Tell you Evan.

2068
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 7: Has turned pact?

2069
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 15: Has we turned?

2070
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: Has we turned from practice? Evan? A little chili out there?

2071
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 5: No, actually it was. It was at hotest chili this morning,

2072
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 5: but it wasn't too chilly.

2073
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: Now.

2074
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 5: I was actually sweating a little bit.

2075
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 4: But you are back from practice, so tell us what

2076
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 4: is going to dine eye glean.

2077
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 15: There's a lot of stuff to glean from. I had

2078
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 15: to take notes to make sure I had it all

2079
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 15: down on your phone paper.

2080
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 5: What do you think?

2081
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 20: Come on?

2082
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 15: Uh, I would say, first note, just attendance wise, good

2083
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 15: and bad news on the attendance front, what do you

2084
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 15: want to start with?

2085
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 4: Good?

2086
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 5: Bad?

2087
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 15: Obviously No, David Andrews uh no. Kiden Wallace and you're down.

2088
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 15: You're two starting safeties all of a sudden, apparently too,

2089
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 15: because Kyle Duggar Andrebrill Peppers were both missing from practice today.

2090
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 3: Mike's like blank blank, yeah, yeah, so that that's not

2091
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 3: great news.

2092
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 15: And then on the good news front, Kendrick Bourne, Siaki

2093
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 15: Taki Marte Mapu all back, so their window officially open.

2094
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 6: Did look distraught still or standing.

2095
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 5: Twenty five yards behind the defense?

2096
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 15: He was participating, uh, much to my chagrin with the

2097
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 15: wrong position group, but he was.

2098
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 5: He was participating.

2099
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 15: So let's take him from Brian Belichick's huddle and let's

2100
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 15: move him to Dante High Towers huddle and see how

2101
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 15: that goes for a little while. But right now he's

2102
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 15: working with the safeties.

2103
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 5: Okay, So that was disappointed Low. Vaderian Low was there.

2104
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 5: And so this is the other big bit of news.

2105
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 15: The offensive line has been put in a blender and

2106
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 15: it seems like we are starting from scratch, and can

2107
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 15: we try to start try to pretend some of them

2108
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 15: just to be just to be clear some of it

2109
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 15: before you start try because I want to give you

2110
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 15: a hint here. Some of it is just simply injury related.

2111
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 15: And certain guys were back participating that weren't participating last week.

2112
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 15: So if you think about that, it's not all completely.

2113
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say so you're saying, it's not what's

2114
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 3: his face the kid Tay Harris Harris, so Leverett h. Robinson,

2115
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 3: and it's not that left to right.

2116
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 4: Now, who's Harris? You mean the other kid kid.

2117
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Jacob.

2118
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 6: Sorry, Harris Jack, It's not Jacobs.

2119
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 12: I was.

2120
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 5: I was with Fred because I thought that maybe one

2121
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 5: of those guys that we signed off of waivers was Harris.

2122
01:38:56,040 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 5: I was also confused, Sorry, so is it so it

2123
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 5: Joe Robinson.

2124
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 15: Inside, You're not even close Michael Jordan's back m j

2125
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 15: Michael Jordan's yep, all right left guard? So at left guard,

2126
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 15: at right guard or right tackle?

2127
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,919
Speaker 5: Right guard? Wait a minute, confused, I'm gonna I'm just gonna.

2128
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 15: Left to right left tackle Darien Lowe, left guard, Michael Jordan, center,

2129
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 15: Nick Leverett right guard City so right tackle Mike n Winning.

2130
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 5: So I would say, yeah, I thought there was a

2131
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 5: chance that when you brought that up that a win

2132
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 5: who might have moved in. But I thought so when

2133
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 5: Robinson both struggled in that game, and so I think

2134
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 5: is a little bit more understandable given the amount of time.

2135
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 5: He was like six or seven weeks. So you gotta

2136
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 5: knock some rust off there, Robinson was. He struggled.

2137
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 3: He wondered if that guy I like, I like, they're

2138
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 3: starting to be like, he's not improving, he's not getting

2139
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 3: it right. We gotta we gotta make a change.

2140
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 5: It seems like I see, I kind of thought that

2141
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 5: he had a little bit more power to his game.

2142
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 5: I agree, And I thought he got pushed back a

2143
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 5: lot of that game the other day. He struggled.

2144
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 15: He's struggled in pass protection basically all year. But you

2145
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 15: expect that from a younger player. You know, he's seeing

2146
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 15: fronts that he's never seen before. He's seen games upfront

2147
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 15: that he's never seen before, blitzes like that kind of stuff.

2148
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 15: But physically he struggled in this game on Sunday seven

2149
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 15: quarterback pressures allowed as him and Trey Jacobs allowed the most.

2150
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,839
Speaker 15: So Robinson to the bench maybe for a mental reset

2151
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 15: and just kind of watch for a little while and

2152
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 15: see how it goes.

2153
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 5: Last year so and.

2154
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 15: On when who played next to each other for the

2155
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 15: majority of the season on the right side, and one

2156
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 15: of the only things that they had on that offense

2157
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 15: was running behind the two of those guys. So re

2158
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 15: establishing that, I think Jordan's been okay at left guard

2159
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 15: for right now. Vederian is your best left tackle, you

2160
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 15: can sell me, yeah. I I actually think that this

2161
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 15: is not a horrible shake up, like if they were

2162
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 15: going to shake it up. I think This is about

2163
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 15: where I would have had it to bring in Drake May.

2164
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 5: I only want it, Yes, I want it to be temporary.

2165
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 5: Let's put it that way. Like it's on the surface,

2166
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 5: the fact that your two rookies by week five are

2167
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 5: sort of out is not good. But I kind of

2168
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 5: like the idea of moving and Evan's right, like running

2169
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 5: the ball last year behind So and when who worked.

2170
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 5: I don't think So was as good as people think

2171
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 5: he was last year overall, but they did run the

2172
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 5: ball well behind those two guys last year. That's kind

2173
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 5: of fact.

2174
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, That's why I give Laden Robinson a little bit

2175
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 15: of a pass, because I think rookie offensive linemen, if

2176
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 15: they are going to struggle, they're going to struggle in

2177
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 15: pass protection because in this league, you know, college teams

2178
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 15: do not scheme.

2179
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 5: Up the pass rush like they do at the NFL level.

2180
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 15: You're not seeing all these crazy pressures and different line

2181
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 15: games and all that kind of stuff. And then obviously

2182
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 15: the power is much different at this level than it

2183
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 15: is in college. So City So was a little bit

2184
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 15: inconsistent in past pro last year. Landon Robinson's a little

2185
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 15: bit inconsistent in past pro this year. So I'm not

2186
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:14,719
Speaker 15: all that surprised by that being the fact. But seven

2187
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 15: quarterback pressures allowed, as seven quarterback pressure.

2188
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 5: Get low and Jordan's good, hopefully a little bit closer

2189
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 5: to full strength, and maybe you can go.

2190
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:28,719
Speaker 4: What were your media cohorts grumbling or just talking about today?

2191
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 5: So we had a couple of things. I like, how

2192
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 5: we have some thing? Yeah, I know he's gonna ask.

2193
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 15: Well, first they all thought that I was getting in

2194
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 15: trouble with Josh j in the locker room because spreading

2195
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 15: her Yeah, yeah, Evan, that wasn't the case, thankfully this time. Anyways,

2196
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 15: then we got on to uh town spot because somebody

2197
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 15: in the media.

2198
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 5: Couldn't agree.

2199
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 15: More so, somebody in the media contingent hadn't been and

2200
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 15: and they keep hearing the hype, and you know, mister Sharon,

2201
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 15: you know, had.

2202
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 5: To tell everybody how great it is.

2203
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 4: And uh, I wasn't.

2204
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 6: I thought I was mister Sharon.

2205
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 3: I guess I'm Captain Sharon.

2206
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 15: No, No, if anybody's mister Sharon, it's Aaron. But like

2207
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 15: you're you're a second place on this one.

2208
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 3: He did those two passes, they wouldn't have lost forty

2209
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 3: two to nothing.

2210
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 15: So there's this this overrated pizza place and Sharon called

2211
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 15: town spa that only the locals think is good and uh,

2212
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 15: and so we talked about that and then Mike Reese

2213
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 15: gave Aaron a halla for and I thought at first,

2214
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 15: I was like, was this supposed to be like a

2215
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 15: dig or?

2216
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 5: Is this like in good good faith? So yeah, I

2217
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,440
Speaker 5: had to figure that out, you know, Defend.

2218
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 4: The troops sounds like a pass along gift.

2219
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 5: Somebody give it to him and he yeah, I don't know,

2220
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 5: I don't know. Sometimes it's a little hollow bread.

2221
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good French toast bread, very good, it's

2222
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 3: excellent bread.

2223
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was that's like you're a town Yes,

2224
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 5: a little bit a good holla. You don't even need

2225
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 5: I said, yes, I said I didn't know what it was. No,

2226
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 5: I'm just kid. Yeah, yeah, Mike, is uh with you?

2227
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 5: What Mike and Aaron are both with you about? Like

2228
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 5: didn't you say like you were trying to figure out

2229
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 5: what that was all about?

2230
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 10: It?

2231
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2232
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 15: I was like, you know, is that supposed to be

2233
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 15: like a joke, like, you know, like he's just walking

2234
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 15: around with a loaf of bread.

2235
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 5: And I don't take Mike being no when he told

2236
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 5: me it was Reese, I was like, Okay, that's definitely

2237
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 5: not something.

2238
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 6: Uh you do give gifts to people.

2239
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 15: Uh No, Rosa is the Jewish New Year, so not

2240
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 15: really not a gift giving holiday. No, But inside Baseball

2241
01:44:53,560 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 15: Jewish halla on roa is round to signify like circle

2242
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 15: of life.

2243
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 3: We could probably talk Sandy Kofax here too, I.

2244
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 15: Would think, Yeah, whereas normally hola is is just a

2245
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 15: loaf of bread, like a normal loaf, but specifically on Rosashana,

2246
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 15: you're you buy roundhoulas.

2247
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, inside Baseball Jewish. I like that?

2248
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:19,759
Speaker 4: All right, good stuff?

2249
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 5: What else?

2250
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 4: Paths today?

2251
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 5: Paths today, full paths.

2252
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 3: It's like Wallace's had been around too in his lone.

2253
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,759
Speaker 4: So we talked about it before you got here. Mayo's

2254
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 4: press conference today. What did you glean from it?

2255
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 5: What did I glean from it?

2256
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 8: Well?

2257
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 15: Today I felt like a big conversation and I was

2258
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 15: listening to some of your Paul's shows yesterday. A big

2259
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 15: conversation is just right now about some of the body

2260
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 15: language of some of the players, and uh, the attitude

2261
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 15: in the locker room and and that sort of thing,

2262
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 15: and uh gerd I I you said, you know, I'm

2263
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 15: not worried about the locker room, and I believe him

2264
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 15: like I I think I do believe him at face

2265
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 15: value a little bit about that, but there's definitely been

2266
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 15: some finger pointing.

2267
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,919
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's just full disclosure.

2268
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 15: I was talking to Pop Douglas about some of his

2269
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 15: body language, because it's it's right there on the film,

2270
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 15: like he's open, he's not getting the ball, he's he's

2271
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 15: throwing fits. And the one thing I would say that

2272
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 15: that I appreciated from the guys that I talked to

2273
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 15: was there was accountability. You know, I think a lot

2274
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 15: of you know, Pop Douglas flat out said to me,

2275
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 15: I was tripping. I need to get control of my emotions,

2276
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 15: you know that sort of thing.

2277
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 5: That's a good sign because it obviously was addressed.

2278
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,560
Speaker 4: Well, it's good for both of them. Yeah, you know,

2279
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 4: it's good that it was addressed and good that Pop

2280
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 4: is saying yeah on me.

2281
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2282
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 15: And I I want to also put out there that

2283
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 15: with Pop, I don't think that it's frustration that he's

2284
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,919
Speaker 15: not getting the ball. I I think it's more frustration

2285
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 15: and that the offense is stagged, is not doing well.

2286
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 15: So a couple of the plays that he was more

2287
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 15: animated on when you watch it back or third downs

2288
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,799
Speaker 15: where they didn't convert and they you know, ended up punting.

2289
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 15: And I think he and Polk are just frustrated that

2290
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 15: it's not clicking more than anything to do with they

2291
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 15: are divas and think that they deserve the football.

2292
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 5: Okay, that's just my reader.

2293
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 4: What did you think of Grod's male Girod's comment about

2294
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 4: it's not sustainable the way they want to even against Cincinnati.

2295
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 15: Again like a truth bomb? I guess, like I we

2296
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 15: we all said that coming off the games when when

2297
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 15: we did the show.

2298
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 4: But why why bring that out now? Why why share

2299
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 4: that with the media, Why even tell your team that.

2300
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 5: I don't know I have a good answer for that.

2301
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 5: I I just read.

2302
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 15: Okay, I feel like he's setting me up for something

2303
01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 15: and that No, no, I just because I hadn't really thought.

2304
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 4: We talked about it.

2305
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 5: Fred had a good theory.

2306
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought. I think he's setting the stage with

2307
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 4: his team that we're going to put Drake may in soon,

2308
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,640
Speaker 4: you know, with this type of offensive production. Yeah, you

2309
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,759
Speaker 4: know it's it's gonna be my call. Yeah, I've hired

2310
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:19,600
Speaker 4: a VP and Ben McAdoo to run this offense, but

2311
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 4: at some point we're going to put in Drake.

2312
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,640
Speaker 5: May you know this? So then we took it a

2313
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 5: step further, Evan, So he's telling you and then you know.

2314
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 5: Andrew Callahan asked the follow up, well, what exactly isn't sustainable?

2315
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 5: What we you mean specifically? And he said, you know

2316
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 5: the production. You know, we're not going to win a

2317
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 5: lot of games scoring less than twenty one points. I

2318
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 5: think it was the line he used, Yeah, and I

2319
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 5: think if you look at it, a lot of people

2320
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 5: think they're gonna win this week the first time of

2321
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 5: the year they've been favored. The line moved two points

2322
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 5: from mine, from plus one to minus one. So a

2323
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 5: lot of people, I think, feel like they're going to

2324
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 5: win this week and I wont or Fred's onto something

2325
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 5: here that he's sort of setting the stage like, Yeah,

2326
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna win this week too, and I

2327
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 5: think it's probably gonna be similar to the way we

2328
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 5: won in Week one. And even if we do, that's

2329
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 5: not sustainable, right. We know we're gonna need more offense

2330
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 5: to win more games because we're not gonna be able

2331
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 5: to do it like we're gonna probably do it Sunday. Yeah,

2332
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 5: that often it gives them a Fred just went opening

2333
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 5: the door for Drake May a little bit, and yeah,

2334
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 5: I've heard worse theories. Let's put it that way. Yeah,

2335
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 5: I mean I said it yesterday, we all said it.

2336
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 5: I shouldn't.

2337
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 15: But they're on they're on this tip tightrope right now,

2338
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,680
Speaker 15: this tipping point where if it doesn't start to get

2339
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 15: better on both sides of the ball, Yeah, then people

2340
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 15: are gonna.

2341
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 5: Start letting go of the rope.

2342
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 15: They're they're gonna start letting go of the rope, or

2343
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 15: they're gonna start just looking out for their own self

2344
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 15: interests and try to get there so that they can

2345
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 15: set themselves up for free agency or whatever the case

2346
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 15: may be next offseason.

2347
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 5: Right, And that's the worry to me about some of

2348
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 5: the body language and thing like the receivers, you know,

2349
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 5: do they start looking like, you know, I got to

2350
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 5: start my career here. I can't establish myself as a

2351
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 5: guy who's going to catch twenty passes. If I'm to

2352
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 5: Mario Douglas, I'm going to go from you know, forty

2353
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 5: some odd catches that ye have last year, Yeah, forty nine, Yeah,

2354
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 5: forty nine catches to twenty nine catches and they're going

2355
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 5: to say, oh, flash in the pan. Yeah, because people

2356
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 5: don't look at it that closely, you know. So I

2357
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 5: do wonder about that if it continues, this pressure that mounts,

2358
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 5: you know, the defense. Evyan brings up a good point.

2359
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 5: You know, you're I'm going to go to Evan's side

2360
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 5: of the street now and I'll say it right on purpose.

2361
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 5: That's time the DVOA. Yeah, right, what is it? Twenty

2362
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 5: nine on offense, twenty eight on defense right now, something

2363
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 5: like that. So let's not just say like this is

2364
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 5: the whole Well, the defense is doing all it can.

2365
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 5: The defense hasn't played well either.

2366
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 15: The defense right now. The vibe that I got is

2367
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,799
Speaker 15: the defense is searching for answers.

2368
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 4: Do you think that they're trying to do things that

2369
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 4: maybe they aren't capable of personnel wise, and it's confusing guys.

2370
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 5: I think that they're doing different things than what they

2371
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 5: did with Bill.

2372
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2373
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 15: I don't think of their wholesale changes, but I think

2374
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 15: there are enough of a change that certain guys are

2375
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 15: not adjusting to it, but as well as others, and

2376
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 15: so the guys that are doing their jobs and are

2377
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 15: adjusting to it, are getting frustrated with the guys that

2378
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:31,839
Speaker 15: aren't doing the job as well. Yeah, and so I'll

2379
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 15: just point to two guys that I feel like this

2380
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 15: is really true with Jelanie to Vai and Joshua Jay.

2381
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 5: I think to Via, I don't think there's any question.

2382
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 5: I think both of those guys doing too much of

2383
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 5: Bentley stuff.

2384
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think those two guys I don't think are

2385
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 15: being used correctly by the coaching staff, or they're being

2386
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 15: asked to do different assignments. You know, they're playing a

2387
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,640
Speaker 15: lot of Cover two and Jelani to Via now is

2388
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 15: being asked to cover twenty twenty five yards down the

2389
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 15: field and run with the receiver is coming across the field.

2390
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:06,600
Speaker 5: And that's not what he's good at, you know, he's not.

2391
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 15: He's good at playing around the line of scrimmage, maybe

2392
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 15: at the second level, but you don't want him all

2393
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 15: the way.

2394
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 5: Down the field.

2395
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 15: So there's a group of people that on defense are saying,

2396
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 15: you know, the Devon Godshows, the Jabriel Peppers of the

2397
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 15: world are saying, I'm bawling out, I'm doing my job.

2398
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 15: You know, what are these guys doing. Are these guys

2399
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 15: on their own program, are they taking the coaching. Is

2400
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 15: the coaching an issue? I mean, I won't say who was,

2401
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 15: but one of the players I was talking to was

2402
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 15: asking me my opinion of what was going on with

2403
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 15: the defense.

2404
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 5: Thank even less of that guy. Now that's crazy. So no,

2405
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 5: I think it makes sense. They probably there had to

2406
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 5: be some changes. Like they're different guys, They're going to

2407
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 5: do some things differently. You guys know me, I'm a

2408
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 5: simple man. My biggest change is Gino Smith and Seattle

2409
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers and the Jets brought and the Niners. They

2410
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 5: didn't have gauntlets like that last year because it was

2411
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 5: Zach Wilson and the Jets, and it was Mitch Trubisky

2412
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 5: and the Steelers and Gardner Minshew and the cult Lake.

2413
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 5: They had a lot of backup jags that they faced

2414
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 5: last year. My guess is we're going to be talking

2415
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 5: about how the defense bounced back on Sunday. That's my prediction.

2416
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 5: Fast week, the defense will bounce back and look like

2417
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 5: it did in Week one.

2418
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 4: We're getting to the end of the show. But Martin

2419
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 4: from London has an interesting question and it's one that

2420
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 4: you know, maybe each of you can chip in on.

2421
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 4: If you could each ask a question to any former

2422
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:41,679
Speaker 4: player or coach, and they will definitely tell you the truth.

2423
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 4: Who and what would you ask if one you were

2424
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 4: trying to get the biggest media scoop of the century,

2425
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 4: and two it was for your own curiosity and you

2426
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:51,919
Speaker 4: had to keep the answer to yourself.

2427
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 5: My answer is the same for both.

2428
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 4: Why didn't Malcolm Butler play?

2429
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure, Yeah, that's probably the biggest media scoop.

2430
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 5: My personal one would be, would you if Drew didn't

2431
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 5: get hurt, would you have ever made the change?

2432
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 12: Oh?

2433
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I just personal he would say yes, no, no,

2434
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 5: but he's he has to tell the truth. Tell the truth,

2435
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 5: that's all the pregnice.

2436
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 4: No, I think he would, like.

2437
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 5: Charlie Weiss has said he didn't think that they would

2438
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 5: have ever made it, like on the record to me,

2439
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 5: he said that, So I just would be curious to

2440
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 5: see what Bill thought.

2441
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2442
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 3: I just asked Bill what he does with the sleeves

2443
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 3: he cuts off?

2444
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think the Butler can't even take it.

2445
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 4: I think the Butler one I would ask if I

2446
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 4: wanted the biggest media school, because I wouldn't want to

2447
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 4: keep that to myself.

2448
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 5: The biggest media scoop. I think is.

2449
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 4: I could get the answer, but I had to keep

2450
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 4: it to myself. I think it would be either asking Belichick,

2451
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 4: Craft or Brady what they thought of the other. But

2452
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 4: they really think that's good.

2453
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 3: You know, seriously, I would like to know from Bill

2454
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 3: why did it? Why did it all fall apart?

2455
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 10: Here?

2456
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 9: Like?

2457
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 8: What what?

2458
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 12: You know?

2459
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 3: What I mean, real, like the real story, not but

2460
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 3: full honesty, you know why they're so petty?

2461
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 4: Well, but I've always said that. I think the real

2462
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 4: question is how did you keep it together for twenty years?

2463
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 4: Because that's unheard of on winning teams to keep things

2464
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 4: together for that long and people think, oh, that's crazy,

2465
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 4: you're winning. Everything's great. No, the more you win, the

2466
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 4: more people want, the more they feel entitled. They've got

2467
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 4: their hands out and it falls apart.

2468
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 3: He must have some regrets, though, like he must have

2469
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 3: some moves that he made over the last five years.

2470
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Malcolm Butler, he got rid of Robbie Gold.

2471
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 4: I know, regret.

2472
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 5: That was his biggest regret. I think his biggest regret.

2473
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, Matt Morrell showed it to me

2474
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 4: on the way in and I was cracking up. Have

2475
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 4: you watched this Aaron Hernandez thing. They have the betrayal

2476
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 4: he showed it to me of when they drafted Aaron

2477
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 4: Hernanaz in the war room. So there's this actor playing

2478
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 4: Bill and they've got somebody playing Robert. It's it's hysterical

2479
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 4: because it's so absurd.

2480
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 6: It was like, it's so absurd excited.

2481
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 5: It's it's like he would it's worse than draft day ten.

2482
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 6: Times worse, Like what is the what is the tenure

2483
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 6: tenor of the situation?

2484
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 4: First of all, we've seen Bill in the draft in

2485
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 4: the world. How does he dress suit and suit and tie? Yeah,

2486
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 4: they've got him in the in the cutoff hoodie, which

2487
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 4: one which.

2488
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 5: I think he's in a suit and tie on day

2489
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 5: three he's in a suit and tie in day one.

2490
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 5: Hernando's got drafted in the fourth round. He would have

2491
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 5: been in like who do you shirt?

2492
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 4: Which don't think he was anyway, that's that's a nitpick.

2493
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 4: But but the way they portrayed Bill bad and oh,

2494
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 4: it's like it's so it's so cringe worse.

2495
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 5: It's better or worse than he was in the Dynasty

2496
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 5: at that moment. Worse that that's saying something.

2497
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 15: This was more of like an acting like it was

2498
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 15: almost like a cartoon version of Bill, Like, imagine, yeah,

2499
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 15: if you were like somebody that wasn't us, that had him,

2500
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 15: been around him and you know, press conferences and someff

2501
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 15: like that, you watch match showed it to me.

2502
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 5: I had to keep pulling it up for people.

2503
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 4: You got to see it.

2504
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 15: If you I'm sorry, what, yeah, imagine not out That's

2505
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 15: what this is not again, Matt, I've seen it. Imagine

2506
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 15: somebody that knows thinks he knows what Bill would act like,

2507
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,680
Speaker 15: but doesn't actually trying to.

2508
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 5: Like, I know exactly what you're talking about.

2509
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 4: This is what I think an NFL you know, on

2510
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 4: the way, you gotta know, you gotta watch, you gotta

2511
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 4: see what anyway, I just thought that just came to mind. So, uh,

2512
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 4: four callers, Okay, I'll do two more calls. We got

2513
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 4: three minutes, so you got to make it cook. This

2514
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 4: is our version of Paul's Lightning Round on the other show,

2515
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 4: Daniel and California.

2516
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 5: What's Up?

2517
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 4: Dan, Danny California, Daniel Kelly, Dan, Daniel, my brother.

2518
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:57,400
Speaker 5: I put my neck out for you guys. Even they

2519
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 5: just assume Fred was going to blow him off.

2520
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 4: Ryan and Virgine Ryan.

2521
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 16: All right, how you guys doing good? All right, longtime listener,

2522
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 16: first time caller.

2523
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 20: I love the show.

2524
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 16: I've been listening for five years, which is a lot

2525
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 16: more my lift than that any of yours.

2526
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 4: But that's all right, you're a fan.

2527
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 16: I do want to say that this at this point

2528
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 16: in the season, I expected them to be one and three.

2529
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 16: They didn't win the game that I thought they were

2530
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 16: gonna we're gonna win. I thought they were gonna win Seattle.

2531
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 16: But I'm happy they went in Cincy. But the reason

2532
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 16: why I can tell we're screwed for this season is

2533
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 16: because we haven't heard the classic fretism of fourteen and

2534
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 16: three is still on the table. And it's because we

2535
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 16: haven't heard this that I know there's no faith in

2536
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 16: that room.

2537
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 4: But I just wanted to say four and three, Yeah,

2538
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 4: I think that's actually the future, Ryan. I just and

2539
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 4: that's where I'll leave.

2540
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 16: I think we might have to have a I mean

2541
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 16: even last year, even last year, we heard it throughout

2542
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 16: the entire season that twelve and five is still on

2543
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 16: the table. But regardless, I just wanted to say after

2544
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 16: week six, you guys and to look on the show.

2545
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 4: Thanks Ryan.

2546
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 5: That's that's a good point.

2547
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was.

2548
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 5: That's a Fred staple. It goes way back.

2549
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 4: I don't see it. There's no path.

2550
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 5: I don't see the path. So a former member of

2551
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 5: this show is into a play on your theory the

2552
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 5: other way. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I've gotten text after

2553
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 5: each of the last three weeks. One and sixteen is

2554
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 5: still on the table, unfortunately, and Andy predicted him to

2555
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 5: go winless, and then when they I teased him when

2556
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 5: they won the opener. Yeah, and now he keeps texting me.

2557
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 5: One in sixteen, still on the table.

2558
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 4: All right, Well, that's going to be it for this

2559
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 4: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow to wrap

2560
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 4: up this week of shows and we'll have our picks,

2561
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 4: so we'll have to hurry Playbook next and then Cash

2562
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 4: twenty two tomorrow at two thirty. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

2563
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:57,839
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