WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Questions On The Offensive Line 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.520 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Ahead. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:10.480 He got Jack. This is the Big Red Radio presented 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.560 by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown and so 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.880 for bets goes up. He makes the game. When it casts, 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:23.000 Larry Luncheon does it again. The Rage is brought to 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:29.000 you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.199 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.840 and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit Acy Cardinals dot com, 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:46.680 Slash podcasts, The rod scene, Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, flurring Rage, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.680 taking it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.640 It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.000 doesn't get any better than that horn. Unleash the far 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.600 last we left you, Ron Wolf lick. Yeah, the Mars 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:09.520 rover had just touchdown. Fact the words were touchdown confirmed. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.800 Not this again. In the interim, Wolf, We've decided here 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.440 on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.360 we are santan for to employ our own rover of sorts, 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.200 because we know how you're into the selatious and the 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.560 sensational stock ball. Your middle initial is TMZ. We know 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.640 that wolf about you, and with that in mind, we've 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.360 sent our rover into the backyards of other NFL teams. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.640 Gone over the block wall, as we like to say, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.680 where is this sege going? Paul? And if you haven't 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.240 noticed Wolf for a complete lack of games right now 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.920 in the NFL, we haven't even started the league year. Heck, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.000 the combine has even been canceled. There's a lot of 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.560 drama out there in the NFL. There is some dramas, 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.600 some quarterback drama too, I might add ball. I mean, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.280 there's some great words that you see splash across headlines 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:03.120 these days, denials and desertion, or the word divide. In Seattle, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.480 how about the Niners saying Jimmy g is their guy 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.920 and yet nobody really believes them. John Lynch has got 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.160 to say, you know what, no, I really believe that 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.160 he's going to be our quarterback. He follows it up 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.560 and qualifies it by saying, no, I really believe that 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.680 even uses the words no doubt, except there's a run doubt, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.040 Yes there is. How about the Texans saying, you know what, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.560 the power grid may have failed, but we're not going 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.560 to commit the epic fail of trading Deshaun Watson. Right yet, 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.320 there's Deshaun Watsons telling the new head coach, I'm not 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.079 playing for the Houston Texans. And then, of course there 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.920 was a headline earlier today and we'll get into this 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:42.640 at the end of the show. But how about this 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.720 for a headline when it reads the athletic in Seattle? 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:50.320 What is driving the rift between Russell Wilson and the Seahawks? 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.440 Quote power and control. Now that's something to dig your 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.600 teeth into. There's a debate going on in the national 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.560 football right now, Paully, the football universe. Basically, the debate 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.440 is how much say should a franchise quarterback actually have? 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.680 It's going on with Deshaun Watson, and it's going on, 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.679 I believe with Russell Wilson right now, how much say 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.880 should a franchise quarterback have? I listen, For the longest time, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.080 a general manager had to have complete autonomy for the 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.160 most part. Right he was the guy to me, I 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.079 will continue to say, ten years ago and before that, 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.280 the general manager was the most important hire an owner 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.200 was going to make. Paully, because that general manager he 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.919 was going to draft. He was going to assemble the roster. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.120 He was going to go out and sign free agents. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.720 He was going to hire coaches, a couple of coaches, 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.240 probably head coaches. He'd get that opportunity. He was the 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:47.120 most important guy you had in your organization. And right 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.520 now that is changing a little bit. That general manager 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.200 has got to be able to tap into a little 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.800 bit of counsel with that franchise quarterback. Well, what have 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.680 we been saying for a good decade, No QB, no chance? 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.240 That's right. Maybe the time has just come where quarterbacks 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.200 have had that epiphany that guess what, I am more 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:13.720 valuable than the GM. A GM is replaceable. A franchise quarterback, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.640 for the most part is not. So it's like that 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.599 anonymous coach that's quoted in that athletic story about Russell 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.120 Wilson and the Seahawks Pete Carroll and John Schneider and 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.920 the quote from the anonymous coaches, it's a great story. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:32.159 There's a lot there, money, greed, our control, end quote, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.640 no doubt about it. Paulie, and we all know franchise 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.400 quarterback in the NFL is the hardest human being defined. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.560 It's almost like sweeps month has hit the NFL. If 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.599 you will, you know that's the way it works in 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.400 local tiers such a television guy Paul. Maybe it's a 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.680 ratings game. We'll get into that with Darren urban Ola 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.280 but later. But first we're gonna go into the offensive line. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.000 Sean Coogler met the media today. That is next than 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.640 the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.120 I like the improvement between year one and year two 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.840 with Cliff. I look at the changes that Cliff has 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.760 made with his coaching staff are going to be big improvements. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.440 Our run game was a strength early in the season, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.520 and promoting Sean Cooler to our run game coordinator, I 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.839 think we're going to continue to improve. I think Cliffs 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.000 done a fantastic job this offseason, and t and I 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.520 sat down multiple times talked about the things went right, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.800 the things went wrong, ways that we can fix it, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.920 and the possible solutions moving forward. And Tom, I'm very 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.480 confident that the things that more negative issues this year 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.440 with our football team will get corrected. Self scouting, that's 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.840 what it's all about in the offseason year From Steve 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.960 ki Bidwell, the GM and owner respectively, both with Doug 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.080 and Wolf this week last week on decision Makers Week 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.440 Newsmakers Week, I guess is what you guys officially called. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.600 I always called the decision Makers Week on ninety eight 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.679 seven Arizona Sports, and those scop are always wrong. Paul. Well, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.599 you know, you guys never consulted me on the the Moniker, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.920 and so you know, I just went rogue on you guys. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.240 I always thought that, you know, well, we could have 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.560 improved on that. But once again, no one listens to me. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.960 Say where are you, by the way, Polly in the morning. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.880 I mean, I'm mossing you badly. As you know. First off, 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.159 I'm sleeping in I'll tell you that. Oh you Robin, 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:23.039 And for the most part, but as for what you 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.720 heard right there, Wolf, if you're gonna talk, and you 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.600 heard Michael Bidwell say it, did he not? And we're 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.280 going to get into this a little bit with Darren 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.360 Urban momentarily on the Big Red Rage presented by santan 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.360 Ford and Gilbert the Run Game, and he mentioned twenty 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.080 nineteen twenty twenty, Well, what is the second half of 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.200 two thousand nineteen have in common with the first half 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.680 of two thousand and twenty? The Run Game was in 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.800 gear and the offense was firing on all cylinders, right, Yeah, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.000 there's no doubt. In twenty nineteen, it was that second 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.880 half of the season winner Kenyan Drake really took off. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.880 It got him a transition tag, is what it did. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.960 Bally that second half of twenty nineteen when they start 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.240 to use a lot more two tight ends, even went 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.520 to three tight ends at the end of the year. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.640 If you'll remember back to twenty nineteen, Balie, this was 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.800 an offense that was in a state of flux, and 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.920 it was fluxing more towards the destructive nature of the 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.120 game of football as opposed to the deceptive nature of 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.080 the game of football. And Kenyan Drake, as I said, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.760 really got off in that second half of twenty nineteen 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.040 and it got him that transition tag. This is something 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.160 I think the Arizona Cardinals need to get back to 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.040 a little bit more and I'm hoping that's what they do. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.040 I'll just throw this one stat at you. I'm not 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.000 gonna go heavy on the numbers, but but you tell 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.600 me how significant this is, because this is from my 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.520 note sheet going into the final game of the season 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.560 at the Rams, the playoffs hanging in the balance. Week seventeen. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.480 And here's a stat going into the final game of 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.680 the season. Over the first nine games of the year, 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.400 the Arizona Cardinals averaged one hundred and sixty nine yards 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.720 rushing per game. They were six and three at that point. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.000 Over the next six games, they averaged just over one 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.640 hundred eleven yards per rushing. As a team, they went 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.560 two and four, and then in the finale they had 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.640 eighteen carries as an offense for just forty eight yards 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.440 rushing at the rams. They finished two and five over 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.000 the last seven games and missed the playoffs. Yes, and 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:25.280 to me, it's just stark, is it not. Yes, And 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:31.360 so you realize, Okay, the capability is there. What happened? 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.840 What exactly do the Cardinals have to do to adjust 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.000 to the adjustment, if you will. Whatever defenses were doing, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.600 it was effective to make the Cardinals one dimensional to 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.720 a large degree and take away the balance in the offense. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.680 And Sean Kogler was asked about that in a roundabout 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.960 way today when he met the media. I think we 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.480 do have the tools in place to be an outstanding offense. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.600 Coach Kingsbury, you know, he is very creative, and you 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.920 know the offense works when it's rolling, and we just 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.120 got to make sure that everybody's in position doing their jobs, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.520 so we are rolling there. You so give me your 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.120 thoughts on Sean Coogler. And you know how much tweaking 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.040 does it require? Is it philosophy, is it personnel? To 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.080 what degree is it? Both? Give me your thoughts. Yeah, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.280 you know, Paul, I think it's a combination of a 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.040 lot of different things right here. Listen. First of all, 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.120 the fact that Coogs got promoted a run game coordinator. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.120 I'm a big fan of that because, as the old 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:33.200 saying goes, more say more, pay right, and more pay 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.480 more say and I think that's exactly what he's gonna 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.800 have now. Listen, was he the run game coordinator for 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.920 the most part last year? Yes, he was. But we've 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.280 talked about this this offseason. It's really important that you 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.000 get that title because you do get paid more, and 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.240 when you get paid more, you get to say a 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.520 lot more as well. I think there's some changes maybe 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.800 on the horizon, and we'll see what happens here in 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.400 twenty twenty one, but i'd love to see him Paully 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.280 put more emphasis on just whipping the dude in. You 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.840 raise the bars, so to speak, across the board, and 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.880 you know what, start trashing dudes as opposed to tricking dudes. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.320 Does that make sense? And you know, we talked about 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.280 that with Rob Frederickson a couple of weeks ago, did 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.439 we not, you know, more the power run game, the 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.280 straight ahead run game, Kyler unders center a little more often, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:24.120 more north south, Paulie. And it's interesting because Sean Kugler, 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.480 during the beginning of the press conference today, he was 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:32.280 asked about, you know, the philosophy of defenses it taken 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.920 away Kyler Murray because that seemed to be the emphasis 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.760 of defenses about midway through the season. That was the 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.320 big adjustment on those RPOs. And he said, look, you 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.520 know what, if they're going to do that, you got 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.720 to play it perfectly, or Kyler is going to pull 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.400 it and run it and that's where he's at his 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.320 most dangerous. But he also said, our offense is built 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.440 around Kyler's mobility and him making the proper reads, and 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.800 so if the defense takes that away, theoretically that should 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.280 oopen up other things. But that didn't happen often enough 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.199 obviously in the second half of the season. No, and 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.280 Paul to your point in regard to Kyler Murray being 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.800 the center, the epicenter of the cards rushing attack. I 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.000 think they need to adopt a different strategy that acknowledges 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.400 the only thing more powerful than running Kyler Murray is 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.280 the promise of running Kyler Murray. I would like to 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.480 see them go to a more physical put the onus 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:28.680 on the offensive line destruction as opposed to deception. And 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.160 we'll get into the offensive line. What exactly is happening 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.800 at the center position, What is happening at right tackle? 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.120 What else did the Cardinals need on offense? We'll talk 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.760 to Cardinals insider Darren Urban Next Fromacy Cardinals dot com. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.240 It is the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford 0:11:45.280 --> 0:12:00.280 and Gilbert. We are Santanford, bottom ban bottom boom. Great 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:05.480 protection for Kyler Murray. The pocket has been really, really sound. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.800 This is where you gotta feed the butt guts now, baby, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.240 you gotta let those butt guts line up and eat. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:16.120 Get a little greasy. They like it, greasy shotguns. Snapping 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.840 a hand off the drake up the middle. He's in 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.559 for the touchdown, Kenyan Drake from a yard out. Cardinals 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.480 had the lead, You had the butt guts, come off 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.720 the ball, get movement at the point, Baby, I try 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.920 to bot a being bot a boom, but I can't 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.199 quite pull that off as well as a guy from Buffalo. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.640 There's just something about that when you're from the Silicon 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.400 Valley doesn't really work quite to the same point. That's right. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.040 Come on, you know they're at Berkeley trying to say that. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.720 Knock it off, Paul, I need some help here. That's 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.600 why we're gonna bring in on the Big Red Rage 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.240 presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.880 Cardinals insider, Darren Urban and Darren Good Evening. We'll get 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.600 into the old line momentarily. All the butt gut news 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.400 you can use momentarily. But first off, I saw about 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.400 twenty four hours ago you tweeted out a picture of 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:08.320 Larry Fitzgerald Courtside, Son's minority owner Larry Fitzgerald Courtside. How 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.880 about attaching some sort of update to that tweet? Darren, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.440 Can you please bring us some news on Larry's future 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.160 beyond him just signing something for a fan courtside. Paul, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.520 we have had this discussion many a time, and clearly 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.840 nobody knows what the heck is going on, and Larry 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.480 is just gonna do it on his own schedule, and 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.040 your guess is as good as mine. I wish I 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.680 had an update. I wish I had an update for 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.160 many reasons, not the least of which is I'd like 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.120 to not have to worry about it twenty four hours 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.840 a day. But we are where we are, derb. Can 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.280 we agree though, that the longer this goes on, the 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:46.000 better the odds are that he comes back. So here's 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.880 how I'm kind of looking at it, Wolf. I mean, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.439 I don't disagree with you that it's still a possibility. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.720 The question becomes why would it be? I find it 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.959 hard to believe that it's the question maybe of just 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.280 whether he wants to play or not, so maybe there's 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.880 some other stuff involved out a mall. I mean, we've 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.800 all talked about the contract many times, and it would 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.520 be hard to believe that the Cardinals would bring him 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.640 back for the eleven million dollars he's been playing for 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.040 the last few years. So you know, maybe they're saying, Okay, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.000 if you do come back, it would be this amount 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.720 of money. Does Larry really want to do that? I 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.760 do think that ultimately He's going to have to make 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.000 a decision before we get to free agency, because I 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.600 just don't think in how tight this salary cap world 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.360 is going to be that they can afford to have 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.040 him say after the fact, Okay, now I'm going to 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.440 come back. I don't know if that would work. I'm 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.240 sticking to my latest theory advanced initially on The Big 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.080 Red Rage last week and then further on Cardinals Underground 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.520 the podcast this week, and that is to the point 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.640 where Larry not only is coming back, but since there's 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.760 going to be the advent of super teams according to 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.560 Chase Edmonds and all these one year deals, the competitive 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.560 vantage Larry has a no other Layer has in the 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.880 NFL is his contact list. So Larry will come back 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.600 and then he'll announce it with about a half dozen 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.400 other signings that he has generated, and so boom, He's 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.280 going to orchestrate this whole super team Lebron style for 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.720 the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty one. Who's with me 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.240 on that, Polly? That is a hot take right there. Honestly, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:18.480 what do you do do you? I mean, have you 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.200 locked yourself in the closet to come up with these 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.240 hot takes? Is that what it is? I've been watching 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.000 too much of, you know, some of the TV too 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.400 much of First Take and Stephen A. Smith and some 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.720 of the other no and Skip Bayliss. It's all about you. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.560 The offensive line presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert and Darren. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.280 Some initial takeaways from what Sean Kugler had to say 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.000 the old line coach and run game coordinator today. Well, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.640 I know, for me the first one, and you know 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.560 I'm going to say that I asked the question, so 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.400 maybe that's why I'm thinking of it first. But I 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.960 thought he was fairly For a coach in the offseason, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.120 you're rarely going to get anything really concrete. But for 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.000 him to talk about the center position the way he 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.360 did that, you know both Lamont Galliard and Mason Cole 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.800 were up and down, and that the position needs to 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.280 take a step up and that they very well could 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.640 bring in some competition, I thought that was fairly intriguing 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.800 to me. I mean, I think we've all talked about 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.720 where Mason Cole was, and we saw Lamont Galliard get 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.040 some snaps and some work in a couple of games 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.760 last year. But I think they would like to get 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.920 a little bit better on the offensive line. I think 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.480 center makes a lot of sense and it's going to 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.120 be interesting to see what direction that goes in. So 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.960 that that's the first thing that I thought. So what 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.280 do you think they might do if, in fact, they 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.760 were to bring somebody from the outside in? Somebody they thought, Oh, 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.760 I don't know, like a Corey Linsley. Wouldn't that be 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.800 awesome if that were the case right there? But what 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.360 do you think they do with Mason Cole Well, I mean, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.880 you've got a guy who can play guard. He has 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:59.920 played when he hasn't played center, He's played guard and done, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.240 and all of a sudden, you've got another swing person 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.240 that gives you some depth and that you know, that 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.800 was a big deal for them last year, was talking 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.800 about Okay, not only do we have our starters and 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.720 they stayed fairly healthy, which was good, but we've also 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.720 got depth that if somebody gets hurt, we feel a 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.919 little bit more comfortab plugging them in. Then maybe they 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.480 were in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, you know, in 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.600 that situation when they had their offensive line injuries. So 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.160 you know, I know the Packers center, like you mentioned, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.280 has been out his name has been out there, But again, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.199 how much are you willing to pay for some of 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.160 the stuff and where does that fit with everything else? 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.560 I mean, if Patrick Peterson ends up leaving, you're you're 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.360 basically looking because I think Byron Murphy still works best 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.960 as a slot cornerback. You're basically looking to replace both 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.840 your starting cornerbacks. And yeah, maybe one's in the draft, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.679 but you're gonna have to go get one somewhere. And 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.920 I just think with all the different things they have, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.560 I don't know if they can necessarily afford to spend there. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.560 I could be wrong, but you know, I don't know 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.120 about that. Well, did you guys see what Corey Linsley 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.120 told Serious NFL Radio today. Quote it looks like all 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.760 signs points to snapping the ball somewhere else next year 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.720 end quote Corey Linsley. So he's resigned to leaving Green 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.160 Bay and we'll see, we know. Sean Coogler today called 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.000 it an open competition at center. I just got the 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:24.040 sense he was a little salty. I mean, for February, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.400 he definitely wasn't in a very good mood. Now he 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.679 wasn't He wasn't cross with the media or anything or short, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.679 but there wasn't a smile cracked. He mentioned how they 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.840 were the most penalized team in the NFL and the 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.040 old line was a big part of that and there 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.040 were a lot of pre snap penalties by the old line. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.359 I mean, he had his game face on in a 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.240 lot of ways to me. In February and then he 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.240 was asked about Josh Jones rookie year and how he 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.880 might play into things in year two for the kid 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.240 out of Houston. He got his feet wet last year, 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.280 but he didn't have to be pushed into a starting role. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.720 I thought that was good. I thought he handled his 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.960 rookie year extremely well, not only on the field but 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.040 in the room. I saw a lot of growth. We're 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.200 very excited about him. He offers position flexibility. He could 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.560 play tackle, he could play guard. We'll see where that 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.200 goes as we get into the offseason. Is that viable wolf? 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.439 Could he be a guard? Yeah? Jones? No, absolutely, You're 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.840 gonna get your five best out on the field in 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:19.960 any way you have to do that. You're gonna go 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.320 ahead and do it. If you don't feel that Josh 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.280 Jones is ready to play on the adge out there well, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.119 you know when you move them inside and listen, this 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.399 guy has got an awful lot of talent. There's no 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.720 doubt about it. We all were jacked up when the 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.399 Arizona Cardinals were able to get him in the third round. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.920 There are many people who believe that he was a 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.920 high second round pick, maybe even a late first round 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.800 pick in some mock drafts, and to get a guy 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.960 of that quality is significant. Listen the OTAs and not 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:54.879 having the OTAs and the truncated preseason and no preseason games. 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.920 Are you kidding me? It was a disaster for Josh 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.720 Jones not to be able to develop like that an 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.920 offensive lineman. The big jump from college to the pro 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.560 game is beyond significant, and he was trying to do 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.359 what I consider to be the impossible. Darren, what do 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.560 you make of right tackle? How wide open is it 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.400 right now? Oh? I mean, I think it's pretty wide. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.760 What's going to be interesting to me? I think they 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.520 really like the job Kelvin Beecham did on the field, 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.040 and everybody I talked to. Obviously Weeding get to spend 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:27.960 a lot of time in the locker room, Paul, but 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.800 everybody I talked to, he says, He's a major factor 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.520 as a leader in the locker room. So I think 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:35.399 in a lot of ways it would make sense to 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.960 bring him back. What the question is, how much would 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.760 you be willing to spend on him? Could he get 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.480 more money elsewhere after the year he had. I mean, 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.320 I don't think he's going to break the bank or anything. 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.960 But again, this is all going to be very compact 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.720 in terms of all these different contracts, and you know, 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.320 I think I could see a scenario where he comes 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.280 back and plays right tackle. And when you talk about 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.159 Josh Jones playing guard, I mean they are going to 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.360 need a right guard potentially. I think you Jr. Sweezy's 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.919 probably gonna leave as a as a free agent. And 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.200 then you know, as justin Murray stay there, do you 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.440 maybe use Jones? What do you do with Marcus Gilbert, 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:16.119 who whose contract tolled while he opted out last season, 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:17.960 so he still has a year left on his deal. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.119