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Speaker 5: So this is interesting, Paul, because a couple of weeks back,

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Speaker 5: I directly asked Rob Fredrickson if he was going to

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Speaker 5: be a candidate for the Arizona Cardinals head coaching position

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Speaker 5: and he answered no comments. And here we are a

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Speaker 5: couple of weeks later and Rob is nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 5: Darren Irban will join us mid show at cards Chatter

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Speaker 5: very busy because well, the coaching search continues, Paul, and

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Speaker 5: we now have a brand new name to the lists.

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Speaker 5: Joe Brady, Bill's offensive coordinator, is reportedly interviewing for the position,

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Speaker 5: in fact interviewing today, according to reports. So, yeah, fourteen

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Speaker 5: different names on the list and maybe a fifteenth if

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Speaker 5: it is Rob.

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Speaker 6: Friderckson or Darren Urban.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's true.

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Speaker 6: I mean have we really verified where Darren? His name's

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Speaker 6: in the intro? Where is he? You know, wandering minds

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Speaker 6: want to know Lorenzo Alexander. I mean, this coaching cycle

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Speaker 6: is so prolific, so shall we say, cutthroat and productive.

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Speaker 6: Even Zoe now has an assistant slash consulting role with

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Speaker 6: the Cal Bears, his alma mater. So I mean, head

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Speaker 6: on a squibvel. You never know who's gonna be here

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Speaker 6: and who's not.

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Speaker 5: Well, if Cow came calling for Zoe, do I worry?

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Speaker 5: Do we worry here on the content team that another

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Speaker 5: phone call bub might be made to Paul Calvic and

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Speaker 5: plucked away from us.

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Speaker 6: You know, until last night I would have said a

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Speaker 6: resounding note, But watching Indiana win the national championship actually

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Speaker 6: does something here.

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Speaker 5: With a former cal quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that, henceforth and here tofore was never thought possible.

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Speaker 6: And that is maybe someday, one day in my lifespan,

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Speaker 6: there might be a Paul Pasadena in my future. Because

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Speaker 6: if Indiana just did it, why not anyone else.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulations to Indiana not only winning the national championship,

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Speaker 5: but winning the Rose Ball on the way to the

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Speaker 5: national championship. So Paul is further looking up at everyone

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Speaker 5: in college.

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Speaker 6: But can always get worse when you watch the Indiana

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Speaker 6: Hoosiers win the Rose Ball. My goodness. But you know what, Craig,

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Speaker 6: if nothing else around here, we're Fernando Mendoza tough. That's

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Speaker 6: how tough we are here on the Red Sea Report.

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Speaker 5: Potential number one overall draft pick come April. But first

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Speaker 5: things first, before we get to the draft, Paul, we

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Speaker 5: need to fill the vacancy here at head coach.

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Speaker 6: There we go come.

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Speaker 5: As I mentioned off the top, Joe Brady Cordy to

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Speaker 5: reports interviewing for the position, there have been fourteen different

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Speaker 5: names linked to the job. At one point this coaching cycle,

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Speaker 5: Paul had ten openings, most recently the Buffalo Bills, which

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Speaker 5: we will get to, but that was a surprise of

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Speaker 5: the weekend. Since our last show, I believe there have

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Speaker 5: been four vacancies filled John Harbaugh to the Giants, in fact,

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Speaker 5: his press conference happening as we speak, Kevin Stefanski hired

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Speaker 5: Sola Sola Corney to reports late last night now with

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Speaker 5: the Tennessee Titans. So that leaves six openings, one of

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Speaker 6: Done so advanced. Joseph for example, cannot be contacted again

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Speaker 6: that fired Brian Callahan after what he had twenty three

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Speaker 6: then Robert Sala, he who had three plus years as

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Speaker 6: one hundred million plus in cap room. So for everyone,

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Speaker 6: including a new enclosed stadium. We're thankful for that. Hashtag

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Speaker 6: Sideline Strong is effective twenty twenty seven. So there you go.

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Speaker 6: Robert salahead into the Tennessee Titans. So you can cross

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Speaker 6: Salla's name off the list you brought up. Vance Joseph.

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Speaker 6: Here's some other names linked to the Cardinals who are

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Speaker 6: Those teams still involved in the postseason, So the Cardinals,

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Speaker 7: With the rules in place by the NFL, this is

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Speaker 7: not a quick process, nor do we want it to be.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is an important decision that Michael and

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Speaker 5: And I get it. Certainly, the fans want a decision.

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Speaker 5: They want a person hired. You want that person hired

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Speaker 5: So it's a long term solution and not just something

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Speaker 6: And look to your point, you don't know. Look at

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Speaker 6: the Miami Dolphins. Look at the track record under Stephen Ross,

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Speaker 6: He might be really impressive. He might be a Hall

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Speaker 6: You don't know at this point. Now, what's interesting to

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Speaker 6: Morris and Vance Joseph. Raheem Morris most recently of the Falcons, obviously,

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Speaker 6: Vance Joseph twenty seventeen twenty eighteen for the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 6: Won eleven games in two years, but didn't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: And so, all right, that's interesting. So how much does

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Speaker 6: asin Fort was important. It was important him to cite, No,

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Speaker 6: there's no prerequisites. You're looking for a leader of men.

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Speaker 6: You're looking for a strong head coach. Doesn't have to

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Speaker 6: But considering where the Cardinals are in the quarterback equation,

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Speaker 6: and what's the answer to that question, would you presume

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Speaker 6: to be leaning towards an offensive guy? Don't know? Remember

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Speaker 6: right there. But again, when I look at some of these,

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Speaker 6: And right now I'm seeing Raheem Morris and Vance Joseph.

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Speaker 6: And what does every single, seemingly every single first time

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Speaker 6: decisions come through the head coach's offense, right, It goes

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Speaker 6: so far beyond just football. There are so many just

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Speaker 6: the plus column. Is it a necessity? Absolutely not. Look

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Speaker 5: Cardinals again right now, one of six openings in the

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Speaker 6: I'm guessing Dan Campbell like the whole Kramitt vertical thing,

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Speaker 2: Good block by Paris Johnson Junior. There, Paris Johnson Junior,

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Speaker 8: Since I've been here, we have not been able to

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Speaker 5: An emerging leader, maybe not emerging, maybe just a leader.

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Speaker 6: And you know what, in this day and age where

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Speaker 6: That's got to be top three in terms of priorities

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Speaker 5: Paris Johnson played started twelve games before a knee injury

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Speaker 8: I believe I got better this year as as a

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Speaker 5: You need an elite left tackle, and that's what Paris

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes in what do these elite pass rushers

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Speaker 6: would look at this Cardinals team in the offseason. If

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Speaker 6: you can fix this offensive line, you have enough weapons

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Speaker 6: on offense. Can you keep the quarterback clean and let

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Speaker 6: your weapons win? Is there enough time in pass protection?

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Speaker 6: Can you re establish a run game that the previous

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Speaker 6: two years was number two in yards per carry? To me,

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Speaker 6: those are the two biggest questions.

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Speaker 5: Because it's not the sexiest position, or to have the

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Speaker 5: third overall pick as a lineman, whether that's offense or defense,

444
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Speaker 5: but specifically when you talk about offensive lineman, and yes,

445
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Speaker 5: the quarterback gets all the headlines, but it doesn't matter

446
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Speaker 5: if the offensive line is not doing its job keeping

447
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Speaker 5: the quarterback up right or opening up rushing lanes for

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Speaker 5: a solid run game, you need to solidify that offensive line. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you need a quarterback, I get it, But it doesn't

450
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Speaker 5: matter how good your quarterback is if he's on the

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Speaker 5: turf so many times because the offensive line is not

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Speaker 5: doing its job. So I would have no problems whatsoever

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Speaker 5: if it was offensive line day one, day two to

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Speaker 5: really find what you have in free agency as well

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Speaker 5: draft and add offensive line health.

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Speaker 6: And if you're gonna go after an established interior offensive lineman,

457
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Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl caliber guard, it's gonna cost you twenty

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Speaker 6: million a year. Two years ago. That's what the Carolina

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Speaker 6: Panthers paid for Robert Hunt, and he's been worth every

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Speaker 6: single penny. When he watched you and you listen to

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Speaker 6: a Q Shipley just some of those breakdowns. There's a

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Speaker 6: reason why the Panthers ended up in the playoffs this year,

463
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Speaker 6: and it wasn't just the starting on line, it was

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Speaker 6: their o line depth.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals want to be where the teams are this weekend

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Speaker 5: and this coming up on Championship Sunday. When we come back,

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Speaker 5: we'll talk about the NFC and AFC matchups next here

468
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Speaker 5: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 6: The Niners do not have to snap it again, and

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Speaker 6: they will not.

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Speaker 9: The Seahawks are superb in Seattle, total dominance in a

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Speaker 9: forty one to six win over San Francisco. The NFC

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Speaker 9: Championship game is in Seattle. The road to Super Bowl

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Speaker 9: sixty will stay through the Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 2: With the wind that is back.

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Speaker 3: The stamp is good, the ball is down, the kickers away,

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Speaker 3: the kick is good.

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Speaker 6: End of the end.

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Speaker 3: The Rams are going to Champion Chip Weekend. The La

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Speaker 3: Rams of one and overtime on a forty two year

481
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Speaker 3: field goal by Minas. They're gonna go to Seattle for

482
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Speaker 3: a chance to go to Super Bowl sixteen.

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Speaker 5: So the NFC West is guaranteed to have a Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl participants. Kevin Coogler, Kevin Harlan on Westwood One, as

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Speaker 5: we say, welcome back to the Cardinals, Red Sea report,

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Speaker 5: Craig Realupaul Calvici and yeah, we found Darren Urban at cards.

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Speaker 5: Chatter is in the building.

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Speaker 10: I don't think you were looking very hard, Craig, Well,

489
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Speaker 10: we tried.

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Speaker 5: We just couldn't find you.

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Speaker 10: Hey, we were probably sitting right in these seats.

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Speaker 5: Never thought maybe you had an inkling on who the

493
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Speaker 5: next head coach was going to be based off your absence.

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Speaker 5: But here you are, and we still don't have a

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Speaker 5: head coach.

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Speaker 6: I checked the NFL network insiders. Just make sure you

497
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Speaker 6: were actually interviewing for the job, you know, I just

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Speaker 6: want to know and just wanted to see here.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 6: He never head on a swivel. You never know who's

501
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Speaker 6: going to be added to the list. You don't know.

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Speaker 5: Over the weekend, Seahawks, as you heard, easy work with

503
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Speaker 5: the forty nine Ers forty one to six, the Seahawks

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Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship Game for the first time since

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Speaker 5: twenty fourteen. Little bit more difficult for the Rams. They

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Speaker 5: win in Chicago and overtime in the snow twenty to seventeen.

507
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Speaker 5: And as we've said for much of this season, Darren,

508
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Speaker 5: the NFC West the toughest division in football, and here

509
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Speaker 5: you are with two teams battling out to play in

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl sixty.

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Speaker 10: I would say that, with all due respect to the

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Speaker 10: forty nine Ers. I mean, by the time we got

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Speaker 10: to mid season, was anybody thinking that these two teams

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Speaker 10: weren't the best two teams in the NFC arguably the

515
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Speaker 10: best two teams in the league. Maybe so the fact

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Speaker 10: that they're playing each other. I know that there was

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Speaker 10: a lot of people hoping the Bears were going to

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Speaker 10: continue on this season, but I'm kind of glad the

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Speaker 10: Rams ended up winning because, well, one, I can't say

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Speaker 10: that I'm all that excited to see the Seahawks in

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Speaker 10: the Super.

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Speaker 5: Bowl, So I'm not excited about either team.

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Speaker 6: And this me neither.

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Speaker 10: But I definitely would would rather see the Rams there,

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Speaker 10: to be honest. But like, I also think this provides

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Speaker 10: the best NFC Championship game, I don't. I think if

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Speaker 10: the Bears had gone up to Seattle that would have

528
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Speaker 10: not been good.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I think we might be back to the days

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Speaker 6: when the NFC was so dominant that the winner of

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Speaker 6: the NFC Championship Game is going to be your winner

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Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl. By a country mile. That's how

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Speaker 6: good to me the Seahawks and the Rams look, especially

534
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Speaker 6: versus what you're seeing in the AFC and a Denver

535
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Speaker 6: team minus bow Knicks. Now, so if you want the

536
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Speaker 6: best brand of football season long, it's gonna be this

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Speaker 6: NFC Championship game. And honestly, that win by Seattle over

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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers reminded me thanks for asking.

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Speaker 3: Craig.

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Speaker 6: Back in two thousand and nine, when the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 6: won their playoff opener against a young Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 6: then on short rest, had to travel and went against

543
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Speaker 6: a really well rested New Orleans team that was a juggernaut,

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Speaker 6: and that thing got sideways after the Cardinals took an

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Speaker 6: initial lead that sort of looked to be I mean,

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Speaker 6: Seattle just made the Niners look like they were in

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Speaker 6: slow motion. That's how aggressive and intense and superb they

548
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Speaker 6: were on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 5: And it started on the opening kickoff Rashid Shaheed ninety

550
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Speaker 5: five yards for a touchdown, seventeen nothing after the first

551
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Speaker 5: quarter Kenneth Walker one hundred and sixteen rushing yards and

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Speaker 5: three touchdowns. Now the negative in what happened on that game.

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Speaker 5: Paul is Zach Charbonay is done for the season or

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Speaker 5: the rest of the season and maybe into next season

555
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Speaker 5: with a knee injury. So you lose one of your

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Speaker 5: one two punch. Sam Donald did get the monkey off

557
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Speaker 5: his back as far as winning a playoff game, but

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Speaker 5: it is the number one scoring offense against the number

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Speaker 5: one scoring defense. When you're talking about the Seahawks versus

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Speaker 5: the Rams.

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Speaker 6: Did you see the Sean McVay postgame press conference in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: Did you notice how many times he referenced how good

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Speaker 6: the Seahawks had looked the night before. He kept coming

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Speaker 6: back to that. He's sort of this wide eyed look

565
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Speaker 6: on him, like that defense is not only legit, that

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Speaker 6: defense is historically good. Right now, They've slowly but surely

567
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Speaker 6: gotten better over the course of the year, and so

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Speaker 6: this is gonna be really good ball to see what

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Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford. And I don't think Matthew Stafford in that

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Speaker 6: Rams offense has played their best game yet. I think

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Speaker 6: to a certain degree they peaked in October and November.

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Speaker 6: And you know they might go out there and throw

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Speaker 6: their best fastball in this game.

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Speaker 10: Well, they might have peaked the night they lost the

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Speaker 10: the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle. They looked great that night.

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Speaker 10: The problem was that the the Rams defense has kind

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Speaker 10: of falling off a little bit. And and I know

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Speaker 10: they ultimately only gave up what seventeen points to the Bears,

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Speaker 10: but how do you how do you give up that

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Speaker 10: last fourth down?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Everybody wants to talk about a great throw. It was

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Speaker 10: from Caleb Williams, and it was and it was an

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Speaker 10: amazing play, but you cannot. I mean I had justin

585
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Speaker 10: Bethel flashbacks to the Hail Mary or Patrick Peterson.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know twenty fifteen show a hands How many

587
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Speaker 6: people yelled from their couch? Oh mg when that when

588
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Speaker 6: cole Kmet reeled that in. I mean the ex our

589
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Speaker 6: dog went nuts because I yelled at I mean, you

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Speaker 6: just never see that happening. And at first you're thinking,

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Speaker 6: all right, he pushed off something fierce, but on the

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Speaker 6: replay not really.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 10: I mean mean he he pushed, but not enough. I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't know. I wouldn't have flogged him. No, I'm trying

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Speaker 10: to figure out why the RAMS guy went so far away.

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Speaker 6: It's almost like he thought the pass was gonna was

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Speaker 6: intended for the front of the end zone the Rams dB.

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Speaker 6: It made no sense, but it was great stuff. And

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Speaker 6: then Stacey Dale's with the with the cell phone footage,

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Speaker 6: they got like eight million views. She's right there.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Paul, you brought it up Sideline Strong. How come

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Speaker 5: we haven't seen any videos from you posted like that

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Speaker 5: during the regular season. Where's your video going viral?

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Speaker 6: Craig, you know, I mean, I have to carry Dave

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Speaker 6: Passion a q shipley. I'm working, you know, I don't

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Speaker 6: have time to multitask, you know, hold a microphone and

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Speaker 6: the phone come on now.

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Speaker 5: So the Rams defense didn't do a good job on

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Speaker 5: that final playoff regulation. They did pick off Caleb or

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Speaker 5: I should say Caleb Williams three different times twice Kobe

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Speaker 5: Durant got him, including once in overtime. But can you

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Speaker 5: can you rely a lot on that Rams defense again?

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Speaker 5: The now Rams and Seahawks they split the season series,

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Speaker 5: but Darren, you brought it up. It was the Seahawks

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Speaker 5: winning the second time around. But can you rely on

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Speaker 5: that Rams defense going into Seattle yet again?

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Speaker 6: To me, can you rely on the Rams run defense?

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Speaker 6: Because if you can stop Kyron Williams if then I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: If you can stop Kenneth Walker the third then okay,

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Speaker 6: I would still take my chances against Sam Donald in

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Speaker 6: a big game. I still want to see him take

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Speaker 6: that Seahawks team if it's on him entirely, if the

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Speaker 6: run game's bottled up and he's got to go to

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Speaker 6: the air, and you know they're gonna put every asset

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Speaker 6: defensively they can against JSN are there enough other receivers?

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Speaker 6: And can you somehow with Jared Vers and Byron Young

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Speaker 6: and Braden Fisk and the interior guys, if you can

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Speaker 6: put some pressure on Sam Donald. I want to see

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Speaker 6: how many times he gives you the football.

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Speaker 10: He's injured. He's injured. He didn't throw the ball at

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Speaker 10: practice last week, he didn't throw the ball in warm ups.

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Speaker 10: He's injured. So the other question, going back, I double

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Speaker 10: down with what Paul just said, because forgetting what Sam

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Speaker 10: Donald's history is, is Sam Donald gonna be able to

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Speaker 10: throw the ball thirty times thirty five times with effectiveness

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Speaker 10: if it turns out he's still not feeling great? I mean,

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Speaker 10: you know, and what happens if on one of those

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Speaker 10: times Jared Verse crushes his midsection? I mean, we all

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Speaker 10: well referencing Ron Wolfley, I'm sure there will be some

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Speaker 10: blue juice involved. But you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 10: having a less than one hundred percent Sam Donald is

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Speaker 10: going to be as good for the Seahawks this round

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Speaker 10: as it was against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 5: Advantage Matthew Stafford. A healthy Sam Donald or not, you

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Speaker 5: have Matthew Stafford who's been in this position before and

647
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Speaker 5: is excelled, and now he's got more weapons and he's

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Speaker 5: got a defense as well. So it wouldn't surprise me

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Speaker 5: if the Rams went in to Seattle and won.

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Speaker 10: If you're the Rams, there is there can't be a

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Speaker 10: team out there that it can be more confident going

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Speaker 10: against the And I'm not saying the Seahawks aren't playing

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Speaker 10: great football and they didn't earn the first seed, that

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Speaker 10: is all true, but there cannot be any team in

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Speaker 10: the NFL that would have more confidence going against the

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Speaker 10: Seattle Seahawks in Seattle than the Rams. They beat them once.

657
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Speaker 10: The other time they should have beat them, and if

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Speaker 10: it wasn't for that wacky two point play thing that happened,

659
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Speaker 10: or the touchdown or whatever, the fumble that wasn't and

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Speaker 10: then there were a couple other plays in that game

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Speaker 10: that it's just like, how did Seattle end up winning

662
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Speaker 10: this game? The Rams were the better team the time

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Speaker 10: they played in Seattle, and I don't think it was

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Speaker 10: even close. And you know what, the Seattle defense didn't

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Speaker 10: play worth the damn that night. They gave up a

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Speaker 10: ton of points to this offense.

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Speaker 6: There was a fourteen point lead by the Rams in

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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter of that, the Seahawks overcame. Remember that's

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Speaker 6: when the special teams coordinator got fired by Sean McVay

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Speaker 6: because she had the punt return and that turned the game.

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Speaker 6: To me, what the Rams just did going into Chicago

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Speaker 6: getting that win and those condition going to Seattle ain't

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Speaker 6: nothing compared to going into Chicago with a windshield near zero.

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Speaker 6: You were practicing on Wednesday and Thursday in Woodland Hills

675
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Speaker 6: in SoCal and it was eighty two degrees and to

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Speaker 6: go in and play an overtime game, I thought the

677
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Speaker 6: Rams were just toasted physically, they were just drained. That

678
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Speaker 6: cold is so taxing, especially for a team that doesn't

679
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Speaker 6: live and practicing those conditions. So to me, the Rams confidence,

680
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Speaker 6: even though they lost at Seattle last time. To Darren's point,

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Speaker 6: they are winning that game handily. And to go to

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Speaker 6: Chicago winning those conditions, you got to be riding pretty

683
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Speaker 6: high and you know and have a lot of confidence

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Speaker 6: going into Seattle.

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Speaker 5: I've not checked the weather report for Sunday, but it

686
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Speaker 5: is a late afternoon kickoff in Seattle three thirty local time,

687
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Speaker 5: So does that factor in our second half? Fourth quarter?

688
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Speaker 5: That sun goes down and it becomes a little bit

689
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Speaker 5: more difficult for the Rams.

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Speaker 6: Craig, You're you're assuming there will be any sun.

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 6: I mean in Seattle this time of year, you know

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Speaker 6: there's no sun period. I don't care what time of

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Speaker 6: day it is.

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Speaker 10: The Rams should have beat the Eagles in snowy conditions

696
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Speaker 10: last year. They just beat the Bears in snowy conditions.

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Speaker 10: The Rams are gonna be fine.

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Speaker 5: Rams at the Seahawks. That game on Sunday four thirty,

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Speaker 5: Arizona time. You can watch it on Fox Now. The

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Speaker 5: first game on Championship Sunday, Patriots at Broncos. We'll discuss

701
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Speaker 5: what Denver and New England did over the weekend next.

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Speaker 5: As we continue, it's the Cardinals Red Sea Report here

703
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Speaker 5: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 6: Here's the snap, the spot.

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Speaker 11: The kick is up, it is God, and the Broncos

706
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Speaker 11: win in over time. Denver thirty three, bought full of

707
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Speaker 11: thirty and for the first time in a decade, the

708
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Speaker 11: Denver Broncos are back in the AFC Championship Game. Denver

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Speaker 11: wins thirty three thirty and overtime victory, and the Bronx

710
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Speaker 11: goals will be right here at Mile High.

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Speaker 6: Next week, we're a trip to the super Bowl on

712
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Speaker 6: the line.

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Speaker 4: Made another Ben Lefty and that's it. They spill out

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Speaker 4: on the field. They're gonna party in Boston. The New

715
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Speaker 4: England Patriots. The last time they went worst to first,

716
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Speaker 4: they won the Super Bowl. They're onto the AFC Championship.

717
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Speaker 4: It'll be the one seed Denver Broncos the two seed

718
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Speaker 4: New England Patriots for a spot in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Next week, the.

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Speaker 5: Sixteenth Conference champion Championship Game appearance for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 5: Ryan Radkey, John Sedek, Westwood one with the final calls

722
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Speaker 5: as the Broncos in overtime beat the Bills thirty three

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Speaker 5: to thirty and the Patriots outscored the Texans twenty eight

724
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Speaker 5: to sixteen. Why don't we start, because there was a

725
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Speaker 5: lot of news that came out of the Broncos Pills games.

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Speaker 5: How about we start, Paul with the Patriots and Texans

727
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Speaker 5: and the We talked about the Rams defense, the Patriots

728
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Speaker 5: defense five takeaways, four interceptions. The AFC Championship Game next

729
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Speaker 5: Sunday at one pm on CBS. Maybe the over under

730
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Speaker 5: is ten because of the two defenses, but impressive. What

731
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Speaker 5: New England has done with a first year head coach,

732
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Speaker 5: though Mike Rabral has previous head coaching experience, but unlocking

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Speaker 5: what Drake May is capable of doing as a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: You know, the narrative going into the postseason was a geez,

735
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Speaker 6: sta have the easiest schedule in the NFL, and you

736
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Speaker 6: know they're ill equipped to win postseason football. Oh yeah,

737
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Speaker 6: not so much. They've now won back to back games

738
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Speaker 6: over two of the top five defenses in the NFL,

739
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Speaker 6: the Chargers in the Texans and guess what, Denver's number two,

740
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Speaker 6: Texans number one. And then there's this stat we'll call

741
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Speaker 6: this our WTS staff, what the football No quarterback crag

742
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Speaker 6: has ever been three top five defenses in a single postseason. So,

743
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Speaker 6: all right, is that going to be Drake May? The

744
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Speaker 6: guy who had two turnovers against the Chargers, had three

745
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Speaker 6: turnovers against Houston. He had the pick, he had the

746
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Speaker 6: two loss fumbles. I mean he's been putting the ball

747
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Speaker 6: on the ground. Now, the ball was a rock because

748
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Speaker 6: you know how hard it is. That's the way it

749
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Speaker 6: works in those cold weather games. But we'll see, New

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Speaker 6: England is undefeated on the road this year. They are

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Speaker 6: eight to no.

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Speaker 3: So that is.

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Speaker 6: It's really interesting and now Denver, we know, you know

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Speaker 6: where they're left with that quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's talk about advantage quarterback Drake May versus Jarrett Stidham.

756
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Speaker 5: That was an interesting scene over the weekend because the

757
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Speaker 5: Broncos are celebrating this dramatic victory. Bo Nicks is on

758
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Speaker 5: the field doing his postgame interview, and then later it

759
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Speaker 5: gets announced Darren that he suffered an ankle injury on

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Speaker 5: I believe the second or third to last play of

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Speaker 5: the game, on that scramble. That run in which he

762
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Speaker 5: gets tackled finished the game, but now his season is

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Speaker 5: finished and we'll have the watch from the sideline. The

764
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Speaker 5: Broncos run to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: I'm not really sure how.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 10: It's not like Jared Stidham hasn't played in this league,

768
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Speaker 10: but this is a whole different to not have played

769
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Speaker 10: all season and then to go in for a chance

770
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Speaker 10: to play in the Super Bowl. The one thing that

771
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Speaker 10: they have going for him is that they get to

772
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Speaker 10: be at home, and I think that plays a big

773
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Speaker 10: deal to the whole thing. The Broncos defense is very good,

774
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Speaker 10: but they just gave up thirty points and they haven't

775
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Speaker 10: looked necessarily impenetrable. Here, from what I've watched, it looks

776
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Speaker 10: like the Patriots have been playing better defense and with

777
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Speaker 10: it the level of the Patriots are playing defense right now.

778
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Speaker 10: And then to get Jared Stidham, who you know, Patriots

779
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Speaker 10: have a little bit of an idea what he's like

780
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Speaker 10: since he was there once upon a time, Like, I don't.

781
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Speaker 10: I think that's a really that's a that's a tough ask.

782
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Speaker 10: And I think to Paul's point, it's going to have

783
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Speaker 10: to be a really low scoring game for the Broncos

784
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Speaker 10: to have a chance to.

785
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Speaker 4: Win this thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Stidham hasn't started a game or even thrown a

787
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Speaker 6: pass in the regular season in more than two years.

788
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Speaker 6: So rust factor. And but here here's the bigger problem.

789
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Speaker 6: What's the quarterback's best friend the run game? And Denver

790
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Speaker 6: their leading rusher was Bo Nicks with twenty nine yards, Like,

791
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Speaker 6: they could not run the ball. So they better figure

792
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Speaker 6: that out if they're going with Jared Stidham.

793
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Speaker 10: I that's a great point, and I think that's that's

794
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 10: a huge, huge issue. You know, in a lot of ways,

795
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Speaker 10: it's what happened to the Texans in a lot of ways.

796
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Speaker 10: They lost to all the receivers CJ. Strad wasn't playing well.

797
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 10: If they could have run the ball with that defense,

798
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Speaker 10: they might have been okay, But they couldn't run the

799
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Speaker 10: ball either. I go back the one thing I do like,

800
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Speaker 10: and I'm not a big Sean Payton guy, but the

801
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Speaker 10: one thing I do like about Sean Payton and what

802
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Speaker 10: he did was and I know there was a lot

803
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Speaker 10: of raised eyebrows, Oh my god, like you're gonna come

804
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 10: right out and say bo Nicks immediately broke his ankle

805
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Speaker 10: and is out like, why wouldn't you have just sat

806
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Speaker 10: on that and played a little bit hidden in everything. Well,

807
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Speaker 10: he made the point that it was gonna leak out,

808
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Speaker 10: and he's not wrong. And then on top of that

809
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Speaker 10: to come out immediately and say we got Stidham and

810
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Speaker 10: we're gonna ride with him. That's a powerful message you're

811
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Speaker 10: telling your team, Like from jump, you didn't give your team.

812
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Speaker 10: It doesn't mean there wasn't gonna be some like woe

813
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Speaker 10: is me a little bit because the quarterback got hurt

814
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Speaker 10: on that team. But from jump, the head coach is like,

815
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Speaker 10: this is our guy and we're gonna be you know,

816
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Speaker 10: this is what we're doing and we're gonna go and

817
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Speaker 10: we're gonna play a good game, and we're gonna win

818
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Speaker 10: next week because we have Jared Stidham. I kind of

819
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Speaker 10: like that approach because that's the only way you could

820
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Speaker 10: go in this forward and feel good about going into

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Speaker 10: this game.

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Speaker 5: And that was a second press conference that Peyton had

823
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Speaker 5: immediately after the ball game because he did his Q

824
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Speaker 5: and A left and made the decision to come back

825
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Speaker 5: and make the announcement.

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Speaker 10: Did he know that he had a broken ankle when

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Speaker 10: he went into the first.

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Speaker 5: Time at the time, No, he did not. That's why

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Speaker 5: he didn't. That's why he went in for the second time.

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Speaker 5: To make it to your point, Darren, let's just get

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Speaker 5: ahead of this.

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Speaker 10: Well, you said make the decision to come back out,

833
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Speaker 10: and I'm like, yeah, but if he didn't even know,

834
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Speaker 10: there was no decision to make when he was out

835
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Speaker 10: there the first time, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I mean it's I applaud that fact because

837
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Speaker 5: you get ahead of the story and then you're backing

838
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Speaker 5: your control the narrative. Yes, and don't forget about Ben

839
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Speaker 5: Denucci as well. The Broncos added him and their quarterback room,

840
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Speaker 5: So hey, the more the merrier going up against a

841
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Speaker 5: Patriots defense.

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Speaker 6: Well, Sean Payin, he's realistic enough to know that that

843
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Speaker 6: sort of news isn't going to be kept under a

844
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Speaker 6: rock for all week. You know, the insiders, the agent,

845
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Speaker 6: someone's going to leak that, someone from the medical side,

846
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Speaker 6: that that'll get out. He admitted as much. So, okay,

847
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Speaker 6: I get it, you know, be in front of it.

848
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Speaker 6: Here's here's the other problem. No run game. And then

849
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Speaker 6: they lost Troy Franklin with a pulled hamstring. And then

850
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Speaker 6: you saw early in the game as well, Pat Bryant

851
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Speaker 6: suffered his second concussion in a month. So speculation already

852
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Speaker 6: is two of their top receivers will not be available

853
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Speaker 6: for Jared Stidham, So yeah, Dance Joseph and that Broncos defense,

854
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Speaker 6: they have their work cutout for him. They better figure

855
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Speaker 6: out how they can continue to turn over Drake May

856
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Speaker 6: and create some short fields.

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Speaker 5: The other storylines out of that game was one Josh

858
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Speaker 5: Allen coming up short yet again. And then the news

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Speaker 5: on Sunday morning Sean McDermott fired after nine seasons and

860
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Speaker 5: Brandon Bean promoted to GM and President of football Operations.

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Speaker 5: So that made it ten openings at one point for

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Speaker 5: the NFL coaching cycle.

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Speaker 10: All I know is that two of the openings are

864
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Speaker 10: Lamar Jackson's team and Josh Allen's team. I'm thinking they

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Speaker 10: are going to be some people that want to coach

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Speaker 10: those teams.

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Speaker 6: All I know is former Cardinal Jordan Phillips said to

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Speaker 6: the media about firing Sean McDermott. Quote stupid, honestly sickening

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Speaker 6: end quote.

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Speaker 5: Jordan Phillips, Phillips hang here, yes, Patriots at the Broncos

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