1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Our steam President is traveling to the border, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Buck down in El Paso. I believe over the weekend 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: where it is going to have to be acknowledged what 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: a disaster things are at the border. What do you 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: think in general is going to be Because my theory, 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you my theory and then you tell me 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: whether you agree or disagree with it. I think Joe 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Biden's going to go to the border. It's gonna be 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: impossible for the media that travels with him to ignore 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: the disaster that is El Paso. That's why the President 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: going to the border is such a big deal because 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: instead of just Bill Mullusion at Fox News covering the 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: entire border and somehow having essentially almost the entire border 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: beat to himself, suddenly all of these media that travel 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden are going to parachute into the border 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like, man, things were really bad 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: down here. My theory is Joe Biden's going to go 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: to the board and say Republicans have created this situation 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: because they won't engage in immigration reform. He's gonna put forward. 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: He already has his little app and his speech, a 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: series of fixes to the immigration issue which would actually 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: in many ways make it worse. And then when Republicans 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: reject it, he's going to blame Republicans for the situation 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: at the border. That's how I see this playing out. 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree with that, because in his 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: mind then takes the border off of the table and 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: makes it, at least in the terms of the Democrat perspective, 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: a Republican issue, not a Democrat Yeah, they'll just say 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: they're going I think that's his plan. This is very obvious. 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: They're just going to say they're not going along with 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: what the Democrats want to secure the border, and therefore 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: they have no grand ground to stand on to talk 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: about what should happen here. I mean, just to keep 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: everybody up to speed on the latest efforts of Democrat propaganda. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: The DHS secretary may orc Us refused here we go 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Clip four, refused to call the situation at the border 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: a crisis. Remember this, would you, Secretuary qualify what is 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: happening on the border right now as a crisis. You know, 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: we have seen the situation of the border managed in 41 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: an orderly way, we have seen it in extraordinarily challenging 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: circumstances as well. You can rest assured, Poppy that we're 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: doing everything that we possibly can to build a system 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: that provides humanitarian relief in a safe and orderly way. 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: While trying to persuade Congress to fix what is a 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: broken system. They keep saying this broken system line. So 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: if he danced around it there, he doesn't want to 48 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: say it. It's not a crisis, it's a challenge, or 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: it's not a crisis, it's an opportunity, or whatever they 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: want to say at any given day. Clay Ultimately, they've 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: decided that we can just have open borders through the 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: humanitarian impulse or open borders through the asylum loophole, and 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: there's no need then for Congress we even have to 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: address the reality of what's going on because the system 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: is broken because people aren't enforcing the laws that exist. 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, a very basic one is shall detain if 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: you cross in the country, you shall be detained. They don't. 58 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: They don't detain people. They often give them bottles of 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: water and a sandwich and say, you know, see you later. 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, Trump was one billion percent right 61 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: on the border. And I think the most concrete, devastating 62 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: response that almost everyone understands if you think about it 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: in context of a lawyer making an argument to a jury, 64 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: if walls don't work, why does almost every rich person 65 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: in America live behind a wall? There's almost no way answer, right, like, 66 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: if walls don't work, if the walls don't provide protection, 67 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: if walls don't provide security, why is one of the 68 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: first things that people who are extremely wealthy to to 69 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: protect themselves in their family, I mean put themselves behind 70 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: the wall, behind the gate. The only talking point that 71 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: I can remember that was as as stupid as defund 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: police as walls don't work radering the Trump administration, And 73 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: that didn't last that long because eventually work got out 74 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: from border patrol members, people that do that job, who 75 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: would say to anybody who would listen, Oh, no, we could, 76 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: we could use more. Walls are really helpful. Walls are 77 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: a really useful tool. Now that's not the same thing 78 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: as as holding it to the unrealistic goal of they're 79 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent or they solve the problem, of course not. 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: But you know you got a car, you're leaving on 81 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: a on a dark street without great lighting, you lock 82 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: your car. You're not gonna lock your car. Well, what 83 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: makes them more likely to get stolen? You know, no doubt? 84 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, buck, think about it this way. How many 85 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: people do you know who don't just live in a 86 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: gated community, they live in a double or triple gated community. Like, 87 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: that's the next level in elite, Right, you go into 88 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: one gate, and then there's another gate, and then there's 89 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: another gate. Right, Like walls in security make things safer, 90 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're infallible. You can still always climb over it. 91 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: But obstacles to entering the country work to just to 92 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: stop as many people from being able to enter the country. Well, 93 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: it allows for better deployment of resources so that you 94 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: don't have to focus as much, especially in some areas. 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you go to if you go to 96 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: El Paso, it's a city on both sides of the border, right, 97 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: So I mean you're talking about an urban crossing environment 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: across the border. Without a fence there, you have no 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: chance of being able to stop people from getting acrossing it. 100 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, there's there's a lot of things they lie 101 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: about when it comes to immigration, but the biggest lie 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: the Democrats tell av all Is that they want illegal immigration, 103 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: you should stop or even be dramatically lessons because they don't. 104 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: They just don't. As a party, they're an open borders 105 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: party and they lie to you about it. Second hour 106 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: of clay In Buck starts right now, everybody, Just a 107 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: quick update on the latest news. A few of the 108 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: GOP holdouts have flipped and voted for McCarthy as the 109 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: twelfth vote is underway right now for Speaker of the House. 110 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: We'll update you on that and just a little bit. 111 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: But right now, we've got Julie Kelly joining us senior 112 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: writer at American Greatness or latest piece, which is posted 113 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: at Klayenbock dot com. January sixth, a day that will 114 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: live in alchemy. Julie, appreciate you joining us. First off, 115 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: you know, what are you what are you thinking about 116 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: today as you're going to be hearing I'm sure a 117 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: lot of Democrats memorializing, commemorating this anniversary. Yes, well, I'm 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: happy Fu's direction dates both of you. Thank you for 119 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: having me on. You know, look, their narrative is quickly crumbling, 120 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: and I think they know that. That's why they're so 121 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: desperate to lie about what happened and give out these 122 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: presidential awards, which Joe Biden is doing today, because not 123 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: only is the narrative crumbling, you know, things for exposing 124 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: some reporting exposing the truth, but also the weight of 125 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: their own evidence, which is contained in their January sixth, 126 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: their final report the committee, and also some of these 127 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: transcripts that are being released that completely contradict what these 128 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: people have been saying for two years is that everyone 129 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: was caught off guard. Donald Trump incited this quote unquote 130 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: insurrection after his speech on January sixth, that no one 131 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: had intelligence, that no one was preparing for this. This 132 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: all is a lie, and it's interesting because it's being 133 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: exposed as a lie from their own body of evidence. Julie, 134 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: you had a sweet thread up that they got me 135 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: really fired up. There are around and you would probably 136 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: know better than me. Nine hundred some odd defendants so 137 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: far for January six You said that the Department of 138 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Justice is may to be known that they plan on 139 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: charging up to a thousand more people with violations for 140 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: January six Then that part of the impetus for that 141 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: is that they now have billions of more dollars in 142 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice to spend, which many Republicans signed 143 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: off on. Tell us what the latest is on how 144 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: many more defendants there could be, and what the Department 145 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: of Justice is signaling about their attentions going forward. Sure, 146 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: so last year Matthew Graves, who is the US Attorney 147 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: for the District of Columbia, abiding a point keee, and 148 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: they are handling every January sixth case. He indicated that 149 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: his office thinks that there are up to two thousand 150 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: Trump supporters January six protesters who broke the law that day. 151 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: So they are going to accelerate the criminal investigation this week. 152 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: The head of the Washington DC FBI Field Office set 153 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: in a statement commemorating January sixth that their FBI investigation 154 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: would go on four years. So and they are arresting 155 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: people nearly every week. I write about my piece you 156 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: talked about today, a couple from Washington who was under 157 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: FBHI investigation for fourteen months. They interrogated coworkers, They agents 158 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: looked at hours of surveillance video and body cam footage. 159 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,359 Speaker 1: They even got a search warrant these on this couple's 160 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: cell phone devices to confirm they were inside the building 161 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: on January sixth, and what are they ultimately charged with? 162 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: Four low level misdemeanors, No violent charges, no weapon charges, 163 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: no attacking police for misdemeanors. This is what they are 164 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: going to continue to do throughout twenty twenty three, is 165 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: they continue to expand the caseload. And this is all 166 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: to support the idea that Trump supporters are basically domestic 167 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: carest So, Julie, building off of that question, the vast majority, 168 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: I would imagine if people who've been arrested for January 169 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: sixth related offenses have been arrested for taking their own 170 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: photos and many of them posting them on social media 171 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: as a part of that process. Right, can you ever 172 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: remember more people being charged with crimes that they documented themselves? 173 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: In other words, if you really thought you were doing 174 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: something for everybody out there listening, and I'm curious you too, Julie, 175 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: if you really thought you were committing a crime, very 176 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: few times do people record themselves or photoshop themselves, or 177 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: photograph themselves, I should say, committing a crime. That's where 178 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: most of these charges are coming from, which to me, 179 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: is representative of how nonviolent most of the people being 180 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: charged with crimes are. That's such a great point. Yes, 181 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: of course, you would never record yourself robbing a bank 182 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: or doing anything legitimately illegal. You certainly wouldn't do it 183 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: while there's police officers standing right there doing nothing to 184 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: stop you from committing that crime. But of course that's 185 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the case for hundreds of American citizens who are ensnared 186 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: in this really destructive retaliatory investigation and prosecution by this 187 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. The couple I write about today walked 188 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: in the Capitol building through an open door. They walked 189 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: around some hallways. One of the women chadded with a 190 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: Capitol Police officer, the man chad with a DC police officer. 191 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: They weren't arrested, they weren't told to leave the building. 192 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: They eventually police led them to another door where they exited. 193 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Didn't commit any violent crime, and yet here they are 194 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: under fourteen months of FBI investigation before presumably their home 195 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: was rated by FBI agents, and then they're hauled off 196 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: to court, accused of four misdemeanors, but in the process 197 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: destroying their life because the regime has successfully branded these 198 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: people insurrectionists, traitors, and terrorists. Speaking of Julie Kelly, her 199 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: book is January six, How Democrats used the Capital protest 200 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: to launch a war on terror against the political right. Julie, 201 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: what is the status because you've been one of the 202 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: people doing the most I think out there to get 203 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: the word out about what's happening to Jay six defendants 204 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: who have been held in incredibly harsh conditions and in 205 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: many cases for nonviolent crimes. What is the status of 206 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: J six defendants in what I believe you've called before 207 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the DC gulag system that they've been held in, including 208 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: in solitary confinement. Well, the situation is a little more 209 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: fluid than it was, say, a year ago when we 210 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: first started reporting on it. Really, I guess now almost 211 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: two years because you have people who have been sentenced 212 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: or agreed to plea deals and they are then transferred 213 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: to a permanent prison outside of the DC Gulah. At 214 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: the same time, you have defendants who have been held 215 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: under pre trial detention who are now being moved to 216 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: the DC gula because every trial is taking place in Washington, DC. 217 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: My guests Klainbuck is that they are roughly one hundred 218 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: people behind bars right now, either under pre trial detention orders, 219 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: which means they've been denied bail or bond or because 220 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: they have been sentenced for either a plea deal or 221 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: conviction by a judge or a jury. And so this 222 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: is the story case though though that DJ wants to 223 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: expand right, they want more people in prison, they want 224 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: more people in the DC gula. They are political prisoners 225 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: because we've never seen this happen before in the United States, Julie, 226 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: do we get the sense that Republicans eventually, by the way, 227 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: twelve people have flipped towards McCarthy out of the twenty, 228 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: So it's going to be very close in this twelfth 229 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: vote as to whether or not he's going to be 230 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: the speaker. Maybe he's not going to get there, but 231 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: it seems like he's going to be the speaker eventually 232 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: when Republicans take back the House. Obviously the Senate not 233 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: going to happen. But do you get the sense, now 234 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: that we're through the mid term election that some Republicans 235 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: may start to take note of what's happening to the 236 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: January sixth defendants, or do you think many Republicans are 237 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: still going to just turn their back on these people 238 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: and pretend that these abuses of Department of Justice power 239 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: are not happening. I think many will continue to turn 240 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: their backs, and that includes Kevin McCarthy. And one reason 241 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: why is because they bought into the insurrection narrative early on. 242 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,479 Speaker 1: You will recall that Kevin McCarthy calls it an instruction 243 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: from the House floor and he said Donald Trump was 244 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: partially to blame. Well, now that we know what we 245 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: thought we saw in January six is not actually the truth, 246 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: that there was a lot of operations and machinations behind 247 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: the scenes from months before what happened that day. They 248 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: have too much buy it, so they're not going to 249 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: come back now and say, oh, this was really look 250 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: like mostly an inside job, and we're going to figure 251 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: out what happened. I wasn't encouraged so by House Republican 252 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: report that was authored by Jim Jordan and Jim Banks 253 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: and a few others that looked at the security I 254 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: believe intentional security failures on January sixth. They got some 255 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: interesting records, including that if Paul Irving, who was the 256 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: House Sergeant at Arms responsible for securing the capital. I'm 257 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: hoping though, that that report is a start instead of well, 258 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: here we looked at it, and now we're done examining 259 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: January sixth, that can't be because we know there's so 260 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: much more to find out, so many unanswered questions, and 261 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: the people who innocent Americans who are having their lives 262 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: destroyed by this criminal prosecution, they deserve most of all 263 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: to find out what the government was doing, what it 264 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: was responsible for, so they can clear their names and 265 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: get the actual truth out. Julie, what is your opinion 266 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: of the Rays controversy situation. I just think it's fascinating 267 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: to read his transcript and see how people like Adam 268 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: Kinzinger basically act as his defense attorney, you know, asking 269 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: these leading questions where he could sort of claim his innocence, 270 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: which of course he you know, as far as we know, 271 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: he is innocent. It doesn't he says numerous times he 272 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: was not working for a federal agency. That doesn't mean 273 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: he wasn't working for some other interest group. But what's 274 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: interesting to me two things. The text that he sent 275 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: to his family said he helped orchestrate what happened, which 276 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: is the same sort of text or message that's been 277 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: used as evidence against January sixers. But also it looks 278 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: like he was on restricted grounds for at least an hour. 279 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Not to mention the fact that he was involved in 280 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: the first physical breach of the exterior perimeter of Capital grounds, 281 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: but then he was on technically restricted grounds for over 282 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: an hour. Now the several people who didn't go inside 283 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: the building who face criminal charges for being on restricted grounds. 284 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: So it's just unclear why Ray Apps not only has 285 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: been defended by January sixth papagandists, but remains uncharged to 286 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: this day. Last question for you, Julie, You've been pretty 287 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: adamant that you believe Donald Trump is going to be 288 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: charged in relation to these investigations. What do you think 289 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: the time frame on that would be. Yeah, because I 290 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: was having an interesting conversation recently where my fear and 291 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious whether you would agree with this, and Buck 292 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: and I have talked about this sum is that instead 293 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: of trying to knock Donald Trump out of the running 294 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: for the Republican nomination, that the calculus is actually to 295 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: charge him closer to the primary season and count on 296 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: Republicans rallying around him and then getting him the nomination. 297 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: In other words, I don't think that Democrats want to 298 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: knock Donald Trump out of contention for the presidency. I 299 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: think they want Biden to run against Trump again because 300 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: they think that they will beat him again. And if 301 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: that were true, then the timing to indict him would 302 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: actually be, like, you know, August or September of this year, 303 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: if they were going to indict him, What do you 304 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: think and what do you expect? I think that's such 305 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: an interesting angle. It's honestly not one I've thought about 306 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: until you guys brought it up, I think during our 307 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: last interview. But it makes a lot of sense. So 308 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: the idea that they don't want Donald Trump to run, 309 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, they say insurrection and he's disqualified because he 310 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: was involved in this insurrection means that very well could 311 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: be that they are signaling something other than what they 312 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: really want. And the reason why I mean that, Julie, 313 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: is they got involved in every primary that they could 314 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two to pick people who had defended 315 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: Trump because they thought they were weaker candidates. I think 316 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: they're trying to cut down Trump to make him a 317 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: weaker candidate, but they actually want him as the nomin Yeah, 318 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense into your points. Then 319 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: the indictment will probably be at summertime or after summer. 320 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: I actually thought it would be happening. I thought it 321 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: already would have happened by now, but I think the 322 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: rate on Marlago and the classified documents investigation now the 323 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: appointment of a special Council has just intentionally delayed what 324 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: I think is the inevitable. 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We head 350 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: to Washington, d see you right now where there is 351 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: reportedly about to begin a thirteenth vote to determine who 352 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House is going to be. Speaker 353 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy seems to be in line to 354 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: be speaker. He has gained fourteen more votes in the 355 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: twelfth round of voting. Among those votes, Anna Paulina Luna, 356 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: a newly erect elected congress person from the state of Florida, 357 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. You flipped your vote? What 358 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: happened to encourage you that Kevin McCarthy was the right choice, Anna, 359 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: And thanks for joining us. Yes, of course, thanks for 360 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: having me back on. And to be clear, I'm actually 361 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: still here talking to you guys from the cloak room 362 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: on the floor. But my vote hinges on basically making 363 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: these negotiations in good faith. So right now there is 364 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: a framework for negotiation that changes the various foundation in 365 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: which Congress functions, and this negotiation that will working on 366 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: will essentially outlive every single person in this legislative body. 367 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: And when I came here and on the campaign trail, 368 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: I told thousands of people I heard their concerns, and 369 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: I understand how the system is fundamentally broken. There's way 370 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: too much power consolidated into the hands of the speaker. 371 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: And so one of my first terms for my vote 372 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: would be bringing back to Jeffersonian motion to vacate the chair, 373 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: which allows any one member at any time or any 374 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: place to bring a motion to the floor to the 375 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: remove of the speaker. That's huge, That's an accountability that 376 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi removed from Congress when she decided that she 377 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: essentially wanted to consolidated very dangerous power into her position 378 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: as speaker. That is an offer that is on the 379 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: table from Kevin McCarthy. But there are many more changes. 380 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: I can't get into the details of those changes because again, 381 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: my vote hinges on making these negotiations in good faith. 382 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: And so what you are going to see is something 383 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: that the American people deserve to see. We owe them 384 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: this discussion and this is dialogue, and you're seeing that 385 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: play out in real time. It is historic as this 386 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: is I think one of the first times in a 387 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: hundred years if this has happened. But please understand that 388 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: we would not be shifting unless we really did feel 389 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: that this was monumental. And I do advise everyone today 390 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: tonight actually to watch Tucker Carlson as Representative Thomas matthew 391 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: is going to be going entoree the show talking about 392 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: what we are in negotiations with. So we are going 393 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: to continue to work on this. Again, nothing is going 394 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: to change. I do believe that we are still going 395 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: to be going back onto the floor. But this is 396 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: monumental and I hope that the American people trust that 397 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: we are actually fighting to change this institution and the 398 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: way that it functions and to empower the American people 399 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: over big government. Hey man, that's Buck, and appreciate you. 400 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: You're joining us, and we've been meaning to get you 401 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: on during this whole I've been called a ruckist, but 402 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: it's fine. You know, this is democracy. It's playing out. However, 403 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: people are to described the back and forth over this 404 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: seekers the speaker's chair. I think it's important that this 405 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: gets done the right way, and I like the transparency. 406 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: I like people are focused in on it. You said, 407 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: you can't tell us what's on the table, But what 408 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: about the things that have already been reported on, for example, 409 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: things like how many how many seats people get on 410 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: different committees? Things like that? I mean, can you can 411 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: you give us a little more of a sense? I mean, 412 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: you've made some compelling broad points about how this will 413 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: change the institution. We had already seen reporting about a 414 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: motion to vacate the chair from one individual. Is there 415 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: anything else? Though? You can just tell us that is 416 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: that issue here? Because it's sounding more like this is 417 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: about Congress and less about Kevin McCarthy. Is that fair? 418 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: I would have to say, yes, this is about restoring 419 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: the hands into the power of the representatives. And really 420 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: ensuring that the legislative body represents all ideologies, not just 421 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: a mainstream I guess I don't want to say mainstream, 422 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: but it doesn't just represent maybe a less conservative voice. 423 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: So one of the biggest I guess shucks that I 424 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: had when I got to Washington is I found that 425 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: the Rules Committee actually controls all the legislation that hits 426 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: the floor, and so you can't just bring a bill 427 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: to the floor and then call for a vote. And 428 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: that's incredibly important because if you have a bill that 429 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you think might be great on behalf of the American 430 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: people and those people on that committee don't agree with it, 431 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't go to the floor. And so we've asked 432 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: to diversify the conference. I can tell you that I 433 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: haven't asked for anything that I actually have been focusing 434 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: more or less on how do we decentralized power so 435 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: that we avoid what's happening in the House versus what's 436 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: happening in the Senate With McConnell. Anna, there's been reports 437 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: that President Trump has reached out to Wabi on behalf 438 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: of Kevin McCarthy. Has he reached out to you, do 439 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: you know if he has called any of the other 440 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: holdouts to try to make the case that McCarthy makes 441 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: the most sense. You know, I think President Trumps he 442 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: respects our opinions individually, and he trusts us to make 443 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: the correct decisions. And remember there are people who represent 444 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: different districts that they're people don't want them to vote 445 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: for McCarthy, and those people are not rhinos, are not, 446 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, not patriots. And I think that it's important 447 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: to note that the media has really tried to use 448 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: this to divide the American people, to divide the House 449 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: of Representatives. But I want everyone listening to this to 450 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: understand this entire time, and really since November, we have 451 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: been in discussions the entire time. Unfortunately, there was a 452 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: little bit of a communications breakdown, but that has been 453 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: re established. This is in good faith and this will 454 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: move forward, and that's where we really need to be. 455 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: I can also tell you that I think President Trump 456 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: wants wants what's what's best for the American people, and 457 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: you're seeing that play out in real time, and so 458 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: what you will see is transformative change. I have nothing 459 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: but faith in this, and we have to let the 460 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: process work out. And you know what this is how 461 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: Congress is supposed to function. I think it's funny when 462 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: people think, you know, oh my gosh, Congress is up 463 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: there and they're on c SPAN. You know, they're having discussions. 464 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: That's what we're supposed to do. And so I'm really 465 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: glad because you know, for ten years with COVID, this 466 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But this also hasn't happened in a hundred years. 467 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: So we need to dialogue. The American people deserve it, 468 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: and you know, leadership needs to be held accountable, especially 469 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: because of how things have gone over the last few decades. 470 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: We're speaking a Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna from the state 471 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: of Florida, and Anna, assuming the speakers situations, that the 472 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House is chosen here in short order, 473 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: which looks likely to be the case based on the 474 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: trend and the voting. Top of the agenda this year, Clint, 475 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: I've been talking about how we don't have the Senate, 476 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: we don't have the presidency, obviously, but there are some 477 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: things that the Republican House can do. And given the 478 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: principles you're laying out there and the agenda that you 479 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: would like to see, what should what should be done? 480 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: What can be done. I can tell you that what 481 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: I want to see and what this can bring to 482 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: the table is something that it doesn't matter who the 483 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: speaker is, because it will allow the body to function 484 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: in a different way that has been done before. My 485 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: goals right now, for you know, what we need to 486 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: do is we need to look into what's really happening 487 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: with the weaponization of the federal government against the American people. 488 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: What is going on with the corruption that has existed 489 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: in this House for far too long to where you know, 490 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: you have agencies like the FBI being used against the 491 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: American people. I mean, why is it that there is 492 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: a double standard that exists with republic or Republicans and 493 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Democrats where you have Democrats or people in office for 494 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: example of a hundred Biden laptop. I mean, all of 495 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: these things are questions the American people deserve. But I 496 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: also understand that right now Senate is controlled by Democrats, 497 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: that the White House is controlled by Democrats, and right 498 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: now in this Congress, but we will have a chance 499 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: and an opportunity to do is to show the American 500 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: people what's really happening, to get them answers, but also 501 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: to set the floor to set the stage for twenty 502 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: twenty four, and that is exactly what we're doing right now, 503 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: because in twenty twenty four, we do need to take 504 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: back the White House. And I want to remind everyone 505 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: listening that when we had the House, the Senate, and 506 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: the Executive Branch, that there were still things that President 507 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: Trump was not able to get done, and it was 508 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: because Congress was working against him, a Republican Congress. And 509 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: with this being in place, I just I don't think 510 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: that that will be the case anymore, because we will 511 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: absolutely have an equal say and everything coming to the floor. Anna, 512 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: do you think that we'll have a speaker today or 513 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: if not today, when do you think this thing may 514 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: be resolved. I can't put a timeline on it, but 515 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: what I can tell you is that again, these negotiations 516 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: are in good faith and in talks, and as this 517 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: transpires and as this goes through, ultimately what we need 518 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: to do is we need to make sure that we 519 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: are that we are just keeping the American people as 520 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: informed as we can. And so I don't want to 521 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: put a timeline on it, but what I will say 522 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: is that you know, we can operate in good faith, 523 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: but if what we have on the table. If it's 524 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: not followed through with, then again I reserve the right 525 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: to change my vote because I'm not just voting for 526 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: a person. I'm voting to actually change the institution, and 527 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: that's what matters to me. It's not personal, but this 528 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: is very serious and I do believe and as you'll 529 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: hear I think tonight from Representative matthew On Tucker Carlson, 530 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: this is probably the transformative change that maybe only comes once, 531 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, in our time, and I think that this 532 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: will outlast again if we continue with these negotiations. Any 533 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: member of congressant is here today and a Polina Congress, 534 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate talking to 535 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: you as always. Thank you by very good Clay. They'd 536 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: be making some sweeping, big proclamations about how things could 537 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: go here. I'm hoping that it is as great as 538 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: it could be. I think I will be surprised if 539 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: we're back on Monday and the official speakerdom is not 540 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: in the gabble, is not in the hands of Kevin McCarthy. 541 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: Based on the trajectory right now and where they need 542 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: to go, I'm very curious to see what these the 543 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: full scope of what the negotiations are that she was 544 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: just mentioning gun owners. 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So I believe 569 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: as we are rolling through right now, we are down 570 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: to five five, maybe it's still six again as we track, 571 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: and the number that he actually needs is influx a 572 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: bit because some Republicans are right now out of the 573 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: chambers and they're talking about getting back. He Typically you 574 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: would need two hundred and eighteen out of four hundred 575 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: and thirty five, one more than the majority would require, 576 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: but with some Republicans out, maybe two seventeen is in 577 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: play for him to be speaker, maybe two sixteen, depending 578 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: on how exactly the math works out. So again, for 579 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: those of you out there that have been keeping track 580 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: watching this with bated breath, Kevin McCarthy is an overwhelming 581 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: favorite to become the speaker. Fifteen Republicans so far have 582 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: changed their vote for McCarthy, and we will see exactly 583 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: who can be in the chamber and who cannot They're 584 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: trying to close it out tonight, Buck, I saw this 585 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting new pole coming out. 586 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these 587 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Republican leaders? These are Republican voters. Ron de Santis plus 588 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: eighty two eighty eight favorable, six percent negative, Greg Abbott 589 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: seventy two favorable, eight negative, net sixty four Trump seventy 590 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: two fifteen. Trump's favorability ratings in the Republican Party have 591 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: been among the most important part of his appeal. I 592 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: think he was up around ninety six ninety seven percent 593 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: at one point. His current favorability just seventy two. You 594 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: buy that Trump has taken a hit in the Republican 595 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: Party of late, or do you you think this poll 596 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: is out of whack? Like you and I both know 597 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: that there are people who are frustrated with Trump who 598 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: are Trump voters. I'm not talking about never trumpers. I'm 599 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: not talking about people that you know make a living 600 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: or even support those who make a living going on 601 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: CNN pretending to be Republicans when all they do is 602 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: the bidding of Democrats. You and I both know a 603 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: lot of people who are two time Trump voters who 604 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: are frustrated at this point with what they've recently in 605 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: particular scene. But that doesn't mean and this is the 606 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: thing about Trump as a candidate and as a political force, 607 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: you just don't know. So has he dropped a little 608 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: bit right now? I could see that, you know, or 609 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: are there some other candidates that people are thinking about 610 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: on the Republican side more seriously than they have in 611 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: the past. I would think so. The data is certainly, 612 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: all the polling data all supports that. But it's January 613 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. You know, there's a lot of 614 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: time between now and when this stuff really starts to matter. 615 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically a little over a year right 616 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: before people are just going to start casting ballots in 617 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: the primary. And so the thing about Trump is you 618 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: just never know. And I think that right now, you 619 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: know that this is so early in the process that 620 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to take anything from this other than we're 621 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: in like the first inning of a nine inning of 622 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: a nine inning game. Do you think we had Julie 623 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: Kelly on earlier and it's the two year anniversary of 624 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: January sixth, Then I would say the one thing that 625 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: I think is a massive benefit of Republicans dragging out 626 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: their speaker vote is it's really kind of killing the 627 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: idea that you spend much time talking about January sixth, 628 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: because the usual suspects are all tracking Republican votes. And 629 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: I actually think it would be kind of funny if 630 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: they came out and said, yeah, you know, we just 631 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: decided to drag out the speaker vote, so Democrats couldn't 632 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: celebrate January sixth like somebody can go on television and 633 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: say that it's not true. I don't think, but it 634 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: does kind of undercut their narrative. Julie Kelly has been 635 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: aggressive in the fact that she believes Trump is going 636 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: to get indicted. I think that they are going to 637 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: indict Trump still in twenty three. Do you think that's 638 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: going to happen? I mean, you did bet that Hunter 639 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: Biden was going to be indicted last year, and as 640 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: we all know, Hunter Biden has not been indicted. I 641 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: still think they're both going to get indicted this year. 642 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,959 Speaker 1: I take my stake medium rare um. I think that 643 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: the Trump indictment call it's so funny because not funny, haha, 644 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: but sort of odd because the likelihood of Trump being 645 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: indicted really turns upon I think the political calculation around 646 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: it more so than the legal one. If this is 647 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: anytime you're talking about indicting a former president, there's gonna 648 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: be a lot of politics involved in that decision. But 649 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: when you have a likely presidential contender again and former 650 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: president obviously uncharted territory, don't know, I have no real 651 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: historical precedent for this, have nothing even close to her 652 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: historical precedent for this, And so I think it'll be 653 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: it'll determine. It'll be determined by what the Democrats believe 654 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: is in their best political interests more so than anything else. 655 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: And I do also think that the theory that the Look, 656 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: I believe you and I've agreed on this the whole time. 657 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: It's not a change. I think Democrats want to run 658 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: against Trump. Yes, Now, for anyone who gets annoyed hearing 659 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: that or that frustrates them, that doesn't mean they're right. 660 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean Trump can't win it, just run against 661 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: them at sixteen. That's right, that's exactly, thank you. It's 662 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: exactly what I was gonna say. They thought that they 663 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: were going to kick his button twenty sixteen. So I'm 664 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: not saying that they're right. I'm merely saying, and I 665 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: do know Democrats that I do talk to them. They 666 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: want Trump as a candidate against Biden because that nullifies 667 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: in their minds, the Biden is too obviously too old 668 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: that every because you know, Trump's kind of too old too. 669 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: It'll be seventy eight verses eighty two. I believe if 670 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: Trump and Biden ran against each other in twenty twenty four, 671 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: their respective ages seventy eight eighty two. So it's hard 672 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: to be like eighty two is too old, but seventy 673 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: eight's perfect. But you know, the the to the point 674 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: about the rallying effect you made with Julie Kelly. Let's 675 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: say that they do do the indictment against Trump, I 676 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: don't know, next summer or something like, yeah, right, you know, 677 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: right before right before the you know, the the end 678 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: of summer, they were to indict Trump, there could be 679 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: a rallying effect and they might think to themselves, oh, well, great, 680 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: now we get to run against Trump. What if that 681 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: rallying effect is so powerful because of people's outrage. What's 682 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: so obviously a partisan game the Democrats are playing that 683 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Trump is a more formidable candidate 684 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: than they faced since twenty sixteen. You know, so they 685 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 1: can't know exactly how this plays out either, which makes 686 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: me think that you know, they're they're gonna have to 687 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: take a weight and see approach to this. I want 688 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: to say they it's Merrick Garland. But does anybody believe 689 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: that Merrick Garland wouldn't talk to Now. I know they 690 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: have this special counsel, right, Jack Smith. Yea, so Jack 691 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: Smith is the but Jack Smith has to It's kind 692 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: of this game everybody plays. Jack Smith has to refer 693 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: the charges to Merrick Garland is the way this end. 694 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: So it ends up being a Merrick Garland decision. And 695 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. Merrick Garland's gonna talk 696 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden about it. That's just reality. And the 697 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: one little thing that I would put in your back 698 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: back of your mind out there is I think they 699 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: want Trump to be indicted because I think they believe 700 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: that makes Trump more likely to be the nominee. I 701 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: understand there are some of you out there to say, oh, 702 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: they want to indict Trump so he's not selected. No, No, 703 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: I think they want to run against Trump. What if 704 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: Biden pardon Trump. Oh, I thought about thought Merret Garland 705 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: indicts him and then Joe Biden comes out. I think 706 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: it could be a genius political move because then he 707 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: basically like, I'm not afraid of you, Like, if you 708 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: want to be the nominee, you be the nominee for 709 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: the better angels of America. I am parton ning Donald 710 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: Trump and I want to run against him. I think 711 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: he might smoke Trump. If he did that, well, then 712 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: then it turned I guess he would do that before 713 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: they would actually put him to trial. So if the 714 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: charges come out, he could he could pardon him before, 715 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: But then you would still have the entire media calling 716 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: Trump the the convicted felon. I don't know. I feel like, 717 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, I guess I'm sorry, not not 718 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: the convicted felon, but they would call him where the felon? Yeah. 719 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: I think it would be a brilliant political stroke for 720 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: Biden that might sweep him into the election. See. I 721 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: always think with Democrats, ruthless but not brilliant. That's how 722 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: I just gets it done. A lot of the time 723 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: I get brilliant and look not so much for that. 724 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: I think what could happen is Democrats, Biden's gonna have 725 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: to announce buck in like February or March at the latest. 726 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna run. That's one that I think 727 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 1: you were right. I thought that he would get beat 728 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: badly in the mid terms. I think one of the 729 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: benefits of the mid term is it made it more 730 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: likely Biden's run. I think Biden's a weak candidate. So 731 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: if Biden runs, and if he announces, I think that 732 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: DeSantis is gonna wait till the very last moment to 733 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: get in this race. So Democrats are basically buckling in 734 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: Joe Biden as the nominee. If you ended up with 735 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: eighty two year old Joe Biden running against like forty 736 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: five year old run De Santis, that has to be 737 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: the largest age gap we've ever seen in the history 738 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: of presidential elections. I think DeSantis would smoke him. I 739 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: don't think it would be remotely close. DeSantis has a 740 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: lot of flaws as a candidate. I'm not saying he's perfect. 741 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: Every candidate has flaws, but I think that age difference 742 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: would be impossible to overcome. Whereas I think Biden against Trump, 743 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: to your point, I think Biden being eighty two doesn't matter. 744 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: So I think Democrats have to be careful that they 745 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: don't lock themselves in with a candidate that they're planning 746 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: on running against Trump and then Republicans shift the script 747 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: and change their nominee. I also think the window is 748 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: closing for a Biden replacement, uh in the nominee, you know, 749 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: for the Democrats to be the nominee. 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