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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lay. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and welcome to our number two of the drive

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Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt, it's time for

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football Focus and our DFS team came finished

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Speaker 1: in the money won forty six point nine to two points.

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Speaker 2: Winner we got we had justin fields.

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Speaker 1: Playing thirty eight point six percent ownership. He got us

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Speaker 1: twenty four point seven two points.

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Speaker 2: He's playing really well, throwing the ball better. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's a fantasy asset man.

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Speaker 1: Jeric McKinnon at forty eight hundred dollars four point four

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Speaker 1: percent ownership. I'm surprised that wasn't a little higher, but

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Speaker 1: he got twelve point.

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Speaker 2: Seven point Yeah, that was enough. We got our money

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Speaker 2: out of him, right yep.

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon my call on Joe Mixon worked out fifteen

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Speaker 1: point eight percent ownership. He had twenty one point five points.

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Speaker 2: They're really leaning on him more as a runner round receiver.

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Speaker 1: Keep that in mind this week against the Colts, folks,

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Speaker 1: they can't stop the run.

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Speaker 2: They can't and they allowed a lot of yardage in

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Speaker 2: the passing game to back so I mean one of

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Speaker 2: them they were one long play, but still it was

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even mixing had what do he have

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Speaker 1: forty six.

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Speaker 2: Receiving between the two of them?

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Speaker 1: Brown On three catches three catches, Like you're getting chunks

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Speaker 1: getting run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's going to be a feature

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Speaker 2: of the game plan.

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase was owned in ten point six percent of

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Speaker 1: the lineup. We paid up for him. That didn't work

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Speaker 1: out five point nine points.

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Speaker 2: I think a bunch of the fair amount of targets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, DJ Moore are stacked out. That worked out a

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Speaker 1: great year. He had a rushing and receiving touchdown. He

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Speaker 1: had one hundred you have no sixty eight receiving yards,

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Speaker 1: twenty rushing yards, two touchdowns, twenty six point eight points.

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Speaker 2: That's all team's going in the right direction, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And that's a good good pairing there with fields and more.

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Speaker 1: Are Elijah Moore call he got the targets. Yeah, catch

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Speaker 1: didn't work out three for forty two. Uh, but we

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Speaker 1: only paid forty five hundred for him. He was owned

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Speaker 1: an eleven percent of Iron thought yeah, seven point two points.

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Speaker 2: The joker was the guy there.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely twenty seven points six percent ownership, thirty five

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars he got us nineteen point three points a

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Speaker 1: long touchdown b Jon Robinson at sixty five hundred. That

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Speaker 1: worked out seven point one percent. Yeah, nineteen point eight points.

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Speaker 1: And then the forty nine Ers defense at thirty seven hundred,

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Speaker 1: six point five percent ownership, we got nine points out

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Speaker 1: of them. So moving on to tonight's we got two

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Speaker 1: Monday night games tonight, which is nice. So we put

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Speaker 1: together a nice.

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Speaker 2: Little uh you know, do one.

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Speaker 1: Let's put together a little lineup for tonight's games.

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Speaker 2: So in the will this be the captain's share move?

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Speaker 2: Or is this you have to pick?

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about? We got four I don't know,

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Speaker 1: four teams to pick from. I think we can put

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Speaker 1: together a decent team with from the.

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Speaker 2: Four a normal format, yeah, fifty fifteen years, Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: do that, fifty to fifty classic.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for a nice single entry double up here

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Speaker 1: where we at?

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Speaker 2: All? Right? So who we got? We have Titans and Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: Giants and Packers. Yes, Titans and Giants are not a

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Speaker 2: wealth of fantasy goodness, but they.

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Speaker 1: Build them minds of somebody cheap out of those lines

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Speaker 1: are so looking at the defenses the Packers thirty seven

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Speaker 2: Dolphins's played really well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Giants are twenty eight hundred. The Titans are

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Speaker 1: twenty three hundred. I kind of like the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: There, I do too. I don't like the Titans.

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Speaker 1: They're at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I like the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll get I don't know they'll give up anything

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Speaker 1: passing in that game. If they they might run for

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Speaker 2: They still rush the pass pretty well. Yeah, without Phillips. No.

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Speaker 1: I like their d at tight end. Darren Waller is

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Speaker 1: still on IR, so so much for that Chig Miami

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Speaker 1: Chig is thirty one hundred. Tucker Craft is three.

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Speaker 2: Thousand, and Musgraves on IR.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Bellinger is questionable. Tyler Kroft is twenty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Dylan's is Dylan's Craft and Craft, Craft and Craft, Yes, Kah,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking Kraft was Craft and craft smythe is

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Speaker 1: twenty is a DRM Smite or Dylan Yeah, he is

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred. Kevin Raider with the Titans twenty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Our guy, I mean, unless you want to punt on it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like chigs like our only option.

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Speaker 1: Craft has been okay.

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Speaker 2: He's been okay. I like him without Musgrave out, he's

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Speaker 2: been part of the Last Game out. What's the difference

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Speaker 2: in prices? Good?

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Speaker 1: Last game out? Craft head six targets, three catches for

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Speaker 1: thirty seven yards.

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Speaker 2: They're the only two that are really usable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last couple of weeks here two catches for thirty two,

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Speaker 1: two catches for fifteen two catches or three catches for

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Speaker 2: If you don't mind. What are the Giants against tight ends?

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Speaker 2: And what are Miami against?

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Speaker 1: The Giants are six against tight ends. Miami is seventeenth

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Speaker 1: against tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Tight ends is the one I put the least stock

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Speaker 2: in for those things.

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Speaker 1: There's a one hundred dollars difference between the two. You

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Speaker 1: just pump.

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Speaker 2: I think I played for Chake. Then he's done lately,

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Speaker 2: but I know it's not great. He hasn't his a

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Speaker 2: little better lately?

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Speaker 1: Six targets, five targets, two targets, six targets. That goes

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Speaker 1: back three catches, four catches, one catch, three catches.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's not a lot of talk from one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be highly Chalky.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's going to have him in probably.

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Speaker 2: Love people with Miami's d too. Yeah, you know, you

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Speaker 2: pick up for four teams, not much to pick from.

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Speaker 1: Uh A quarterback Tua is seventy three hundred, to consider it,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is six thousand.

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Speaker 2: Is it definitely the veto? Yes? I saw something a

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Speaker 2: minute ago about Okay.

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Speaker 1: The veto is definitely and he's fifty one hundred. Will

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Speaker 1: Levis is fifty three hundred. Those are the dudes, Those

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Speaker 1: are the dudes you pay out for seventy three hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think love will.

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Speaker 2: End up being What's Love verse two again, thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Hundred dollars cheaper to go with love? Okay.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, I mean, I just feel like

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Speaker 2: we're gonna short ourselves if we go too rich on

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Speaker 2: all these Okay.

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Speaker 1: Running back Saquan is seventy one hundred. Okay, eight is

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Speaker 1: seven thousand.

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Speaker 2: He's more than most.

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Speaker 1: Most are just sixty seven hundred. Dereck Henry is sixty

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Speaker 1: five hundred. Interesting, Aaron Jones is out, he's out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say Dylan's a j Dillon at fifty three hundred

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Speaker 2: not bad. Yeah, I think they're gonna win. And he's

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Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of fourth you know, fourth quarter carries.

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Speaker 1: Ty J. Spears is five thousand.

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Speaker 2: Could break a big play. I catch some balls from

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Speaker 2: behind too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you think they're gonna lose Spears, I

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Speaker 2: don't think Henry will be in the fourth quarter. I

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Speaker 2: think they're gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like Dylan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at fifty three hundred, you know, Barkley is gonna

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Speaker 2: get touches. But I'd rather spend money on like Tyreek.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to keep paying down here so we

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Speaker 1: can pay up for Tyreek. In fact, do you want

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Speaker 1: to go do that now?

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Speaker 2: You just want to stick him in and then he's

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Speaker 2: ninety two hundred, I'm sure, Well just shove him in

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Speaker 2: there and we'll.

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Speaker 1: Over under for yards tonight is one ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: You could get that in three cases, so we're under

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Speaker 1: for yards in the game is one hundred and gambling nature, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, I mean he's on this he's on this quest,

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Speaker 2: and the Dolphins are on this quest to get him

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Speaker 2: two thousand. Andy's in primetime, you know, like, yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: gonta get the ball. Yeah, well, let's just put him in.

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Speaker 1: There and might win the MVP Award tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying the showcase, you're you know, you're

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Speaker 2: you're really how the what kind of season you're truly having?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we got him plugged in. I get that

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Speaker 1: leads us with fifty seven fifty to spend on our

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Speaker 1: final spots.

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Speaker 2: Here you go back to running back real quick. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what about Dylan and Spears?

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking the same thing. Spears at five

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Speaker 1: thousand allows us then six average six thousand on our

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Speaker 2: It's not too bad. That's not too I think Spears

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Speaker 2: catches four or five passes. They're going to be behind,

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Speaker 2: they're behind. Yeah, he's got a lot of ability.

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Speaker 1: To Uh So, Waddle was seventy five hundred, DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: Jayden Reid I'd rather read the forty seven hundred. Ye

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Speaker 1: you gotta plug read in it. Yeah, seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: That's a great one.

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Speaker 1: Now we can average sixty six fifty the.

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Speaker 2: Rest of the way. What about the other Giants receivers.

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Speaker 1: You got uh one, Del Robinson is thirty seven hundred,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt is thirty four hundred, Darius Slayton is thirty

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Speaker 2: They're all I mean, you get what you pay for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh so right now you got the receivers, but

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Speaker 1: the top three guys are Wattle, Hopkins, and Dobbs. Dobbs

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Speaker 1: is only five thousand, not bad, Like we can we

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Speaker 1: can end up with saque as a flex offense, say

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Speaker 1: or are if we have enough money left over, I

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Speaker 1: don't mind going up to going up the TUA, then

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Speaker 1: we get the TUIs.

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Speaker 2: If we do that now, okay, and see where that

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Speaker 2: leaves us, it's super attractive.

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Speaker 1: We can still average six thousand for these last two spots.

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Speaker 1: Could we get like we could probably still end up

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Speaker 1: with because of the lay These receivers are priced like

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Could we get like Saquon and Hyatt? Like if we

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Speaker 2: really cheaped out hoping Hyatt catches a bomb.

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Speaker 1: Let's see he Saquon at seventy one hundred leaves us

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Speaker 1: with forty nine hundred at wide receiver that would get

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Speaker 1: us Don Tavian Wicks, one, Del Robinson, Jalen Hyatt.

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Speaker 2: Can you check Hyatt's targets lately? I think his role

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Speaker 2: has grown, But they were off this past week, so

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Speaker 2: it's not on the tip of my tongue.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So against New England he had six targets, five

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Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and nine yards. Week before that, however,

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Speaker 1: in Week eleven against Washington, which we know is a

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Speaker 1: bad pass defense, two targets, one catch, seven yards.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's who he is. He's DeShawn Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Against Dallas, no catch, no catches, one target, nothing against

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Speaker 1: Vegas and week nine, five targets, two catches nineteen yards.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's going to him in the lineup. Reid at forty

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Speaker 2: I would think these are great teams to pick from.

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Speaker 2: I bet there'll be a lot of similar lineups, especially

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Speaker 1: But just the way it seems to work out.

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Speaker 2: But that's all right. I mean, I think some of

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be chod, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of tours in Tyreeks, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have to give us something to look at tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll play again.

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Speaker 2: I just figured they'd give it the more by now,

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Speaker 1: He's yeah yeah, what has he done?

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Dallas's offense went got a lot better.

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Speaker 1: See, the Chargers offense got worse.

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Speaker 1: Every time the Chargers are on TV. The same thing

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Speaker 1: He's a rising star at what.

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Speaker 2: Why don't they ever say that about Dallas's head coach.

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Speaker 2: He's gotten a lot out of quarterbacks over the years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he's an all time great

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly much more than more. The more's getting out

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Speaker 2: The knock on him coming out of Oregon was he's

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love him, but you can only say, well,

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Speaker 1: Jeff George is very talented as well, sure, and he's

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially when you compare him to AFC quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they paid him, they gave him a

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Speaker 2: And I would too. I mean, he's a no brainer

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Speaker 1: And I know that. You know, Philip Rivers wasn't up

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Speaker 1: Like if we're this is a fantasy segment, if we're

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Speaker 2: No, No, you can't, especially if Mike Williams isn't there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now Trevor Lawrence is going through some of the

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Speaker 2: You know, you can't just I mean, Kenny get some

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Speaker 1: There are times when it is his fault.

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Speaker 2: Who else?

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Speaker 1: There was another quarterback injury yesterday? Was there not?

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Speaker 2: Well? Justin Jefferson? Was justin Jefferson's brutal Yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: Dobbs got bench.

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Speaker 1: That was Josh Dobbs's fault.

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Speaker 1: Well he threw him right into the safety and.

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Speaker 2: Came out just like an hour ago. We're not sure

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Speaker 2: so you got that situation. Trying to think of any

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Speaker 1: There was another one that got hurt.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of scan the league in my cranium here.

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Speaker 1: Let me think about it here. I'll get it here quickly,

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Speaker 1: because one of the guys I thought about it as

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Speaker 1: Going into the bench. He's going into the playoffs with

445
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Speaker 1: drum rolle. Please. Oh he had c J. Strout.

446
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,959
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's an obvious one. But he's a concussion.

447
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 2: I think it's a concussion. So it's probably one week

448
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 2: at most.

449
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: But we've seen that. You know, those can linger the.

450
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: Question though, I mean, even if he plays, they did

451
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 2: nothing against a good Jet defense and he is a

452
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: Nico or Tank. Yeah.

453
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: The top two receivers, oh and by the oh, by

454
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 1: the way, the tight end is also.

455
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: Their top three receivers are out. So if you're counting

456
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 2: on Stroud even for two weeks from now, ain't what

457
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: he used to be.

458
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, So I'm just looking here at the Dave

459
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 1: Boden's in our league. He's got CJ. Stroud at quarterback,

460
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: his back up as Baker Mayfield. He may have to

461
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: roll into the playoffs with Baker Mayfield as his quarterback. Yuck, yucky, EBITs.

462
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 2: It's not the worst thing in the world. How about

463
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: like Ritter yesterday, you have any faith in like picking

464
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: him up? None?

465
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, Tampa Bay's defense is bad.

466
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 2: Is bad. There's a lot of bad ones out there, but.

467
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: They're in first place right now. So there's that.

468
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: Is that the team he trusts most in the South.

469
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: No fantasy side, no trust. Any of them are bad.

470
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 2: At least they have some good players though, you know,

471
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 2: Wharf's and Evans and guys like that to the Saints.

472
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, one of those teams is probably gonna have

473
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: to host the Eagles in Round one. Right, that Saints

474
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: game was really weird, Like I didn't watch a ton

475
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: of it, but if you look at the box scores,

476
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 2: like car how they won.

477
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: Carr had like twenty five completion for like one hundred

478
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: and ten yards.

479
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: They allowed like two hundred yards on the ground. Carolina

480
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: had lost a turnover battle, but only by like one,

481
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: and neither team could throw at all. Saints didn't run

482
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: the ball at all. They did score on defensive special teams.

483
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: But it's Carolina that bad that, I mean, you can't

484
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: even compete in a game like that apparently, I mean

485
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: box scores weird they were. It is really kind of

486
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: unbeliev because they only ran for ninety seven yards, right.

487
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: Like, they car threw for like a hard and ten

488
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: had eighteen completion eighteen to twenty six for one ten

489
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns with an interception.

490
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: Look at Kamara's receiving line.

491
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: Yeahm I was calling this up to Look at he

492
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: had three catches for minus eleven yards. Yeah, at Perry

493
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: had one catch for forty four yards. They get a

494
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: chunk play there, and.

495
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: They got a trunk play there. They scored on defense

496
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 2: or a lot.

497
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: They had four catches for twenty eight yards with a

498
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: long catch of eight of eight. Lynn Balden had four

499
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: catches for twenty four yards. He did have a fifteen

500
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: yard catch. Jimmy Graham, oh my god, had two catches

501
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: for sixteen yards.

502
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: And a touchdowns scored. It wasn't even like Taysom Hill.

503
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill and it up.

504
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson two catches for ten yards, Foster Moreau two

505
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: catches for four yards, Jamal Williams no catches on one target,

506
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: and then Kamara three catches on five targets for minus.

507
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: Eleven yards eleven yards.

508
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: His long catch was five, so he lost sixteen yards

509
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: on his other two.

510
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: And they couldn't stop the run and they still won

511
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: by twenty something.

512
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: They gave up two hundred yards rushing, two hundreds rushing

513
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: in one twenty eight to six.

514
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: It doesn't add up at all, even like yards for player.

515
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: About the same time of possession favored Carolina heavily. You

516
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 2: know turno. You would think, oh, they must have turned

517
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: the ball over five times. I think it was like

518
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: two to one. They have two and yeah, yeah, strange, like,

519
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: how do you win that convincingly? I don't know, Yeah,

520
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: either field goal kick or miss a ton or black

521
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 2: kick or something. I mean, what happened, tons of penalties

522
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: or something weird. But anyways, ugly car and his linemen

523
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: are yelling at each other. I mean they're that's a

524
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: that's a kind of toxic environment too. I think there's

525
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: a coaching change going on in New Orleans too.

526
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah they're six and seven now, but they're in it.

527
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in it, but don't way seem to like

528
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: each other down there. They don't be in caps face again,

529
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: which is always the case.

530
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: It's just ugly, ugly, ugly ugly at the vision. I mean,

531
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: you don't want to have to get like again, you

532
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: don't have to start Derek Carr in a playoff game.

533
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm not sure that he's going to be the starter.

534
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: Start Bryce Young in a playoff game like there's.

535
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: Or Mayfield or Ritter like yuck, and the whole division's brutal, a.

536
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: Lot of yuck. Anyways, We're overdue for a break here.

537
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: But that's is the fantasy football focus. We'll be watching

538
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: to see what our lineup does tonight. He is Matt Williamson.

539
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540
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541
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554
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: do that good stuff there. No, it always is Matt

555
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: looking here at DVOA. I know everybody's down on the Steeler, down,

556
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: down down the Steelers.

557
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: And this accounts for the last two games.

558
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: This accounts for the entire season. The Steelers are still

559
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: eleventh in total team DVOA strong, San Francisco, Baltimore. He's

560
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: one to one through ten, San Francisco, Baltimore, Kansas City.

561
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: That Africa higher than Kansasity. I would have guessed.

562
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at, their offensive rank is fourth,

563
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: their defensive rank is ninth, and special teams are six.

564
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Special teams. I wouldn't have known. But I'm sorry, I'm

565
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: surprise or fourth in offense.

566
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Speaker 1: Miami is fourth, Okay, Dallas is fifth.

567
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: They're probably trending the right direction too.

568
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: There's not much movement here at the top. Actually, Buffalo

569
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: is six, Detroit is seven, Philadelphia eight, Cleveland is nine.

570
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: They were twelve last week. Other than that, everybody else

571
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: stayed the same.

572
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: Really, Eagles didn't go backwards, they did not.

573
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia was eight, they're still eight. Jacksonville went from nine

574
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Speaker 1: to ten, the Steelers went from ten to eleven. Cincinnati

575
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: bumped up from fourteen to twelve.

576
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: Wow, surpriser at twelve.

577
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: The Chargers holding steady at thirteen. Vikings at fourteen.

578
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Win more games, Chargers, they should, yeah, green Bay is fifteen,

579
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: Houston is sixteen, down from eleven.

580
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: That was the big drop.

581
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a pretty bad loss.

582
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: They're really I mean, they did nothing offensively in that game.

583
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know the Steelers and they did nothing defensively. Yeah,

584
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: like I know, the Steelers just had two bad losses.

585
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: But the games were close. Yeah, I mean, like it's

586
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: you didn't get walloped by the Jets, you know, score

587
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: six points and give up you know, almost thirty agains.

588
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: You think they go to the playoffs. I think Houston's

589
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: probably out, I mean just guessing. I mean, who knows.

590
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: They they don't have a brutal schedule, but.

591
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: If they have to start Davis Mills from you know,

592
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: that game, or they're in trouble.

593
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.

594
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Seattle went from eighteen to seventeen. They actually went up

595
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: a spot.

596
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: Really, they've been having a tough time.

597
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: In the fourteenth offensively, twenty seventh defensively.

598
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of it's a schedule, I'm sure, but still.

599
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: The Rams bumped up a spot from nineteen to eighteen.

600
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Eve though they lost, but they lost. Yeah. Yeah.

601
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: Denver went from twenty two to nineteen. This is where

602
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: there was more variants at the bottom of this. Okay,

603
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: Denver's at nineteen. New Orleans was twenty. They're still twenty.

604
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: The Colts went from sixteen down to twenty one with

605
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: that loss to Cincinnati.

606
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: Where's their offense, defense, special teams?

607
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: Offensively they are eighteen.

608
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Sounds about right.

609
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: Defensively they're fourteenth.

610
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: Russia passer pretty well created a lot of big plays, okay.

611
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: And special teams are twenty fifth.

612
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: Matt Gaye's been missing some kicks actually too.

613
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: So this is they do block punts. See if they

614
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: can they block two in one game again?

615
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeh, don't how they have for the year.

616
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is twenty second. That was down from twenty one.

617
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Chicago at twenty three, up from twenty four.

618
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: I like what they've been doing lately.

619
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Speaker 1: The Jets went from twenty eight up to twenty four.

620
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Best game Wilson's ever played.

621
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Speaker 1: We know Erica Eric Adholm, who does the NFL rankings,

622
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: skyrocks they'll be twentieth this week. New England went from

623
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: twenty we're twenty six. They're still twenty six. Atlanta went

624
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: from twenty five down to twenty seven.

625
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: I look at them as more like twentieth best team.

626
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Vegas went from twenty seven to twenty eight. Washington

627
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: from thirty to twenty nine.

628
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: Vegas is a disaster right now, Arizona went.

629
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Speaker 1: From twenty nine to thirty. The Giants who played to night,

630
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: they're thirty one going into this game. Carolina is thirty two.

631
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: So that's the overall team stuff.

632
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

633
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Defensive DVOA. This is where this is where it gets

634
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: interesting here because if you look at who the Steelers

635
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: still have to play, no schidule.

636
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Seattle's as low.

637
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: We know that Baltimore is good. You know, they've been

638
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: good all year.

639
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: Indy's not great.

640
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: Their second The Steelers are seventh in defensive DVA, but

641
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: you have to Indianapolis is against the They were twelfth

642
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: going into last week. Now they're seventeenth. They had a

643
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: rough COVID Yeah again, and that's waighted DVOA, which is

644
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: a little bit different. That's based on who you've played.

645
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: The seventeenth and waded DVA. So they're an average.

646
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Stage of the the and I think that's a better

647
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: indication probably, So they're an average defense.

648
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Thirteenth against the pass, twenty fifth against the run.

649
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: I had to be going in the wrong direction.

650
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that's one that I don't know that they're

651
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: a good matchup for the I think they're a good

652
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: matchup for the Steelers. Steelers eye, yeah, Steeers. I think

653
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: this is a good matchup.

654
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I really think that goal number one has to

655
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: get back to the run game. Yeaheah. I mean I

656
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: think that's a great normalizer. I mean it helps your defense.

657
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: It was probably the strength of the team as soon

658
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: as several days ago. You know, like, I think you

659
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: really have to get back to we're gonna run the

660
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: ball a lot.

661
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: The problem that they ran into against the Patriots is

662
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: they fell down twenty one to three.

663
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: You can't do that, No, you can't.

664
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: But at the same time, they cut it to twenty

665
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: one ten right before the half and had the football

666
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: coming out of the half.

667
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: Son could have run more. Yeah, the third quarter in particular.

668
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: And it's it's what you do best. And you have

669
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: two good.

670
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: Backs and I don't think quarterback who can run.

671
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. Yeah, And again I don't think this

672
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: is a great run defense. I mean, their backers are

673
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: a little lighter, they're they're active upfront, but they're not

674
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of run stuffers, you know, like the Patriots

675
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: have a bunch of run stuff Yeah.

676
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: You know, big physical run stuff.

677
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: Guys are hard to move.

678
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: So I mean I look at that. That should be

679
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: a matchup that the Steelers can exploit. Where was New

680
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: England at New England is number one in run run defense? Yeah,

681
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I mean that was a very good That

682
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: was a bad matchup. That's a match This is better.

683
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: This is much better.

684
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: Agreed, that's a good point.

685
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Then you play Cincinnati, which is I don't love.

686
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: The Colts Corners either. Just yeah, off the top of

687
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: my head, I think that's a matchup.

688
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: You could Cincinnati's twenty seventh and adjusted defense. We just

689
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: saw this a couple of weeks ago. They're twenty seventh

690
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: against the run.

691
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: Makes sense, serious success there, Steelers game. Remember that.

692
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: Then you play Seattle.

693
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: They've been going the wrong direction too. They played tough

694
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: teams lately, but they've been in the wrong direction.

695
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Their defense is twenty fourth and adjusted, is it?

696
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? What's their und defense they are?

697
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Let mean make sure I'm looking at the right. They're

698
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: seventeenth against the run, twenty were they had twenty seventh,

699
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: nineteenth against the run, twenty seventh against the pass. So again,

700
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: these are teams you should be able to move.

701
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: The football against Yeah, exactly. I mean Seattle's interesting to me.

702
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: We're really ahead of ourselves, but I mean we're.

703
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: Just talking about what's remaining on the schedule.

704
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: You're right. I mean they traded for Leonard Williams. I

705
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: don't think he's made a huge impact for them, But

706
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: I heard night Tys talking about this. I thought you

707
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: said it, well, like they're kind of married to Jamal

708
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Adams and Bobby Wagner and they're just not what they

709
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: used to be at all.

710
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean Adams, Jamal Adams, when Jamal Adams was at

711
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: his best, wasn't what he was supposed to be.

712
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: Such a bad trade for ye, I mean, and they're

713
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: paying ramifications and like Wagner is almost like Darius Leonard

714
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: now where it was a superstar and just you don't

715
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: want to pull him off the field and take his

716
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: green dot off him and all that, but he isn't

717
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: playing like the guy you should. And it's kind of

718
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: just a touchy subject and they're kind of stuck with

719
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: these two dudes and they're limited. Yeah.

720
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: So I mean these are three games that offensively, you

721
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: should be able to move the football.

722
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that's encouraging. I mean you would think with

723
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: those three games, any chance Pickt plays.

724
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: In any of them, he could be back by Seattle.

725
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Okay, and we know he's out this week, right, Yeah,

726
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: he's definitely out this week.

727
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: He's I would say, highly likely out next week against Cincinnati.

728
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: But that Seattle game I think is the first one

729
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: where it's a chance. Yeah, because he had the surgery

730
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: last Monday, so we're seven days in. Now, you'd be

731
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: following Monday be fourteen days.

732
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: They think it's a monthish something a little less.

733
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: I think had he had the same surgery on his

734
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: other ankle in college, and I think he came back

735
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: in like twenty six days.

736
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay. Interesting, But I think the key is, like

737
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: you're stressed, is what's their run defenses?

738
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, that's the key. I mean, if the Steelers

739
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: can't run the football, they're in trouble. They're in trouble.

740
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in trouble. And these opponents set up pretty

741
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: well to run the football.

742
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: I will say as well. Baltimore's rush rank and this

743
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: is eighth. The Rams ran all over him yesterday.

744
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: They lost Hamilton too. I'm not sure how long he's out. Yeah,

745
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: And interesting, I do think that's the key, and I'll

746
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: probably say it more and more as the week goes on,

747
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: But if you're going to save your season, it's going

748
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: to be with nausey and more. Yeah. Yeah, and the

749
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: blockers of course, but the right game.

750
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, when you start looking at the AFC playoff field,

751
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: New England's the number one run defense, Well, they're not

752
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: going to be in there. No, Tennessee is number two.

753
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: They're not going to be in there. Now, Jacksonville and

754
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland are three and four.

755
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: Understandable, Okay, yeah, yeah, that's tough.

756
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: Then it's Minnesota, Dallas, Detroit, Baltimore at eight, Chicago at nine.

757
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Surprisingly, Well, there's seasons going the right direction.

758
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now they're still twenty fifthe against the past. Washington

759
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: is tenth, but they're thirty second. I wonder if nobody

760
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: just runs a ball. Steelers are eleven, Atlanta twelve, Houston thirteen,

761
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: Philly's fourteen, the Jets fifteen. They're not gonna be in

762
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs. All these NFC teams up here in.

763
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, you're not talking about many potential opponents

764
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: except for Cleveland, Baltimore.

765
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: Jacksonville, Jacksonville. Yeah, Buffalo is eighteenth. Against the run not great.

766
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: You mentioned Kansas City.

767
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: Miami's twenty first.

768
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Where's Kansas City? Kansas City is thirtieth. Are they really

769
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean you think about their defense being quite good.

770
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: Fifth against the pass, yeah, they rushed pass are well?

771
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: Corners are pretty good. Yeah, but bow you can run

772
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: on them.

773
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Denver is thirty first, Kansas City is thirtieth. Potential opponents

774
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's twenty seventh, Indianapolis twenty fifth. The Raiders are out

775
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: there twenty sixth.

776
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: Those are like all the seven and sixteams. Yeah.

777
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: So even Miami, where you'd say, oh, that's a bad matchup,

778
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: they're twenty first against the run.

779
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 2: Man, they run defense isn't great.

780
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: And you know, I've had people tell me all that

781
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: Miami would be a bad matchup for the Steelers. We

782
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: saw that game last year. It was sixteen to ten

783
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: and the Steelers were throwing into the end zone on

784
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: two separate occasions with under four minutes left.

785
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Steelers secondary would be team

786
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: speed would be a major. It would be an issue

787
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: as it is against everybody. But I think the Steers

788
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: secondary is slower than the average one, and that's a problem.

789
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: But I don't know. When the Steelers have the ball

790
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: would be Oh no, you could.

791
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Just play keep away all day long. Yeah, I mean

792
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna get so they're gonna get theirs. I mean,

793
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: but if you rush the passer, well, well.

794
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: You can't let the big plays.

795
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't you know, you make his twenty

796
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: yards deep and you know, not giving that stuff up.

797
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch Miami tonight. Could they be in

798
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: contention for best team in the AFC. I've never quite

799
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: given them that credit, but they still haven't beating the

800
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: team with the rest of the age. Yeah, they still

801
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: have been beating the team of the winning record this year.

802
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: Then they blow some teams out. I still think Baltimore's better.

803
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo's better, Kansas City's probably better.

804
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I just think those teams are tougher.

805
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and weather's going to matter.

806
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Miami's kind of a finesse team. And if you have

807
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: their back, if you have to go to Baltimore, if

808
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: you have to go to Kansas.

809
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: City, sounds like they'll probably host the game. Yeah, probably,

810
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: but hope you advantagers are huge for them, without a doubt.

811
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: They could get to one without a doubt. Yeah, which

812
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: is possible.

813
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just I mean, I look at that,

814
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: and you know that if the Steelers can run the football,

815
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: they can beat anybody.

816
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: That's the whole key of the rest of the season,

817
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, And because it just makes Trubisky's poor decision

818
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: makings wouldn't.

819
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: Be you can't have you can't expect Mitch Trubisky to

820
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: be in third and nine all the time. Exactly, it's

821
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: not going to go it's not going to go. Well,

822
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: they're going to be mistakes. And that's really any quarterback.

823
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: You put them in third and nine, you put Mahomes

824
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: in third and nine, Lston, they're going to be mistakes.

825
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, but it's something they've done. Well. It's not like, boy,

826
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they got to start throwing for

827
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: three fifty Well, that that's not gonna happen, you know. Like,

828
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: but if you can get back to running for one

829
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: and twenty five yards a game and more than that, yeah,

830
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: there's there's a low you know, my key, that's your floor.

831
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and twenty five is your floor. I

832
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: especially with a mobile quarterback in there.

833
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get twenty out of him or you

834
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: know a little bit from the other dudes. So you know,

835
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: my my key in our video this past week was

836
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: get to a hundred against the Patriots, knowing that was

837
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: going to be a tough challenge. Yeah, you didn't, but

838
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: would the game gone a little different if you did?

839
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: They got close enough that if you know, they lost

840
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: by three and they had eighty two rushing yards, if

841
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: they got to one hundred, would they have would they have.

842
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: That one more first down or one more possession?

843
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: Or what if on second and two you decided to

844
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: run a draw there and pick up the first down?

845
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: Did we looking at But it's a totally different taste

846
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: in them out. I don't know. I don't know, but

847
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: I know I think that's where the turnaround for the

848
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: season has to start. Is you need to be successful

849
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: running the football.

850
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: And I think they can be highly successful these next

851
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: three weeks.

852
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: They've shown. Yeah, and I didn't thought about the opponents.

853
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: But that's good analysis there.

854
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: That's why people listen to the show. Heck yeah, man

855
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: and dig into the to the numbers here and uh,

856
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, I've.

857
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: Been digging the Colts a little tonight and tomorrow will

858
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: be my big dig into the Colts time. But they're

859
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: an interesting team. You know, they're kind of playing with

860
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: house money in my opinion. You know, like they didn't

861
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: plan on their season going this way. They drafted Richardson

862
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: build around him, you know, were we gonna extend Taylor

863
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: or not? And they didn't, and Minshew's been okay, but

864
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: they have a coach, you know, and I kind of

865
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: feel like they're playing with house money. Yeah.

866
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, I don't think Taylor plays

867
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: again this weekend. And Moss really hasn't done much.

868
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: He's really starting to hit a wall. His yards per

869
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: carries really low lately.

870
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you stop them running and what I

871
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: think happens, and we'll talk more about this later in

872
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: the week, you load up to stop that, and then

873
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: you put you put Porter on picking or on the Pittman.

874
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was already we wrote that matchup up and

875
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: I was torn between Porter versus Pickings, Porter verse too

876
00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: many pitt and Pickings. Porter and Pitman is a really

877
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: good match up and they're both big physical dudes. Dad's

878
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: played in the NFL. Be a fun matchup and Cam

879
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Speaker 2: versus Nelson. Yeah, and so there's a couple of key

880
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Speaker 2: ones there that are fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, but we're gonna get to another break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You know we are Porter and Pan and Pitman and

884
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Speaker 2: Porter and Pickens and Peter Piper.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take a break. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: more right after this. Welcome back. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly and you're listening to the drive

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Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt that Mike Tomlin's

889
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: press conference today. Uh he did say that, uh TJ.

890
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: Watt and Alex Heighsmith are both in concussion protocol. So

891
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Speaker 1: we'll see where that goes over the course of the week.

892
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: It's a long yeah, they've they've had some time to

893
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: get get through this. Obviously high Smith suffering the concussion

894
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Speaker 1: that was diagnosed during the game, what was diagnosed the

895
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Speaker 1: next day. And there's been some speculation out there and

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Speaker 1: it is pure speculation that well, the Steelers just put

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Speaker 1: him into the game and they knew he had a concussion.

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Speaker 1: There's an independent neurologist on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Say, I don't think they have that power at.

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Speaker 1: Every NFL game. Yeah, every NFL, all thirty two teams

901
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Speaker 1: have an independent neurologist there who checks these guys out.

902
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Speaker 2: And independent means, not employed by the Steelers.

903
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Speaker 1: Not employed by the Steelers, employed by the league. If

904
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Speaker 1: that guy gives clearance to the player going back into

905
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Speaker 1: the game, he can back, and then you can go

906
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Speaker 1: back into the game.

907
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Speaker 2: You know.

908
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Speaker 1: So this speculation that the Steelers somehow skirted the rules

909
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: on this is ridiculous because if they if the independent

910
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Speaker 1: neurologists told them no, and they put him back into

911
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Speaker 1: the game, the independent neurologists can stop the game. You

912
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Speaker 1: see it all the time.

913
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Speaker 2: It happens where if somebody's woozy or.

914
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Speaker 1: They'll buzz in and say no, that guy's got to

915
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Speaker 1: come off the field.

916
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Speaker 2: That didn't happen, right, Yeah, I mean, obviously their eyes

917
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Speaker 2: were glued to it. It may the first I've heard

918
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Speaker 2: there's any controversy, but I've.

919
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Speaker 1: Seen lots of the the Twitter doctors out there were

920
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: people speculating, well, he was obviously concussed. Well really, he

921
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Speaker 1: was obviously concussed, and we know that.

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Speaker 2: From watching on TV. Yeah, I mean I think so

923
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Speaker 2: you're trying to think. So it was a standalone game

924
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: and a lot of people saw it, and it was

925
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Speaker 2: a violent shot to the head with a helmet on

926
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Speaker 2: to the jaw, yeah, I mean above the neck. Okay,

927
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Speaker 2: they checked him out. It looked like it phased him.

928
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Speaker 2: I mean like it probably hurt a whole.

929
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Speaker 1: They were working more on his jaw than they were

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Speaker 1: anything else.

931
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Speaker 2: You don't see medical folks going into player's mouths very often.

932
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Speaker 2: I thought, like, did they knock out a bunch of teeth?

933
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Speaker 2: Do you have a broken jaw? Teeth?

934
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that can happen.

935
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Speaker 1: Did he you know, did he bite his tongue's There's

936
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that can happen there.

937
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Speaker 2: But this is why the system's in place, because there's

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Speaker 2: an independent guy that says or woman that says yes

939
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Speaker 2: or no.

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Speaker 1: And then I've seen the spection. You know, Well, he

941
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Speaker 1: was wearing a tin advisor out there, so the Steelers

942
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Speaker 1: obviously knew that, you know, there was something wrong. Here's

943
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Speaker 1: the thing. T J. Watt wears a tin advisor in

944
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Speaker 1: pregame warm ups every week.

945
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Speaker 2: He prefers it.

946
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Speaker 1: Apparently he prefers that. Now, it was kind of yucky

947
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Speaker 1: that night, you know, did did you know did he

948
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Speaker 1: change to the to the visor mid game? I don't know.

949
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Speaker 1: Did his other helmet break and that's the one that

950
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Speaker 1: they had to put on him. I don't know, but

951
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Speaker 1: he has a tin advisor that he wears and warm

952
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Speaker 1: ups every week.

953
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Speaker 2: And then they switch it out. Yeah, I would have

954
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Speaker 2: never known that, right.

955
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Speaker 1: There's also Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomland was asked about it today, said, look,

956
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Speaker 1: I I honestly I didn't know that TJ was wearing

957
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Speaker 1: a tin advisor.

958
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Speaker 2: And folks, that's not an indication that he's not on

959
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Speaker 2: top of his team or anything like that. He's got

960
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: better things to do than you know.

961
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Speaker 1: I watched the game. I didn't recognize t J Watt

962
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Speaker 1: was wearing a tin Advisor.

963
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Speaker 2: Like, if I'm the equipment guy, I may not even

964
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Speaker 2: tell the head coach that. I mean, I'm not sure

965
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Speaker 2: would you Maybe the OUTTI linebacker coach would. Now maybe

966
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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator. No, I don't know. I mean, like, frankly,

967
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Speaker 2: I don't care about any equipment stuff if I'm the

968
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Speaker 2: head coach unless it's like we're slipping all over there.

969
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: We need new cleats or the helmet, the mican or

970
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: THEA and the helmet.

971
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Speaker 2: Broke that, Yeah, exactly, not like what he doesn't like

972
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Speaker 2: his elbow pads. I mean, people change stuff all the dome.

973
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Speaker 2: I mean some of it's just vanity.

974
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Speaker 1: They don't like how they look his cups.

975
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Speaker 2: He's a new cup. This one's too small, Like coach

976
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Speaker 2: doesn't care about that stuff, these other things to do. Yeah,

977
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Speaker 2: that doesn't surprise me one bit that he doesn't know

978
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Speaker 2: about the vibe. I didn't either until right now.

979
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Speaker 1: You know, Andy Reid didn't know anything about Clyde Edwards

980
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: hilarire pants last night ripping until he had to come

981
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: out of the game.

982
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: It's not really their dog.

983
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Speaker 1: He also has a bigger picture items to look at.

984
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like asking the ground screw something

985
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: or you know, things like that, like they got their

986
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Speaker 2: own gig.

987
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Speaker 1: But yeah, this this whole idea that that somehow the

988
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: Steelers put him back in the game and knew he

989
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: was concussed. Well, we've seen plenty of earlier this season.

990
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: The Steelers play the Raiders. Yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo takes a

991
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: shot to the head during that game, gets back up,

992
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Speaker 1: comes back into the game next day, develops concussion symptoms.

993
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: It happens all that everything every year. It's nothing new

994
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: or doesn't. Sometimes you don't even know when it happened.

995
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Concussion symptoms the next day. Yeah, so I don't know

996
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: that that doesn't phaze me. Hopefully both those guys are

997
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: ready for this week. The long week hopefully helps. I

998
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: mean it can't hurt obviously, but they haven't been able

999
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: to go do anything yet to start it right. So

1000
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Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, starting tomorrow or Wednesday, you know,

1001
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Speaker 1: if they're able to get out there for a limited practice.

1002
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you know there's there. The league has

1003
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Speaker 1: a very set set of rules and so that you

1004
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: know that you're not going to put somebody out there

1005
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Speaker 1: who is, in both cases either concussed during the game

1006
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Speaker 1: or looks like if if they take a shot to

1007
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Speaker 1: the head, they have to go see the independent neurologists. Yeah,

1008
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Speaker 1: every time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, there's a spotter just looking for

1010
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: that stuff. Yeah, all the time. Yeah, pull that guy

1011
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: out of the game, and especially once he got once.

1012
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure the independent neurologists looked at Watt. I'm sure

1013
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: he's focused on him from that point in the rest

1014
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: of the game. Yeah, more so than the other twenty

1015
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Speaker 2: one on the field, you know.

1016
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Speaker 1: So you keep an eye on that stuff. So we'll

1017
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Speaker 1: see if they're able to at least get a limited

1018
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: practice here. Of course, the Steelers schedule practice schedules tomorrow.

1019
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: The reason Mike Tomlins press conference was today instead of

1020
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Speaker 1: the usual Tuesday, They're going to treat the rest of

1021
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Speaker 1: the week now like it's a regular work week. So

1022
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Speaker 1: Tuesday will be Wednesday, Wednesday will be Thursday, Thursday will

1023
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Speaker 1: be Friday, Friday, they'll have their walkthrough and then fly

1024
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Speaker 1: to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

1026
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: So they'll put out a practice report tomorrow.

1027
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, you know, the same.

1028
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Speaker 1: I assume they have to. Yeah, So looking at that,

1029
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Speaker 1: you know, if you see a limited participation for water Highsmith,

1030
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Speaker 1: that's a good thing.

1031
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: That's promising thing, right, That's what you want is they're

1032
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: on the field doing something.

1033
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Speaker 1: Yeah, then you don't want to see the setback where

1034
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Speaker 1: they have the limited and then the d m P

1035
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Speaker 1: the next day.

1036
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Speaker 2: That's not a good set that's usually the sticking point. Yeah. Usually,

1037
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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, but after you get past that day,

1038
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: it usually seems like it's usually or you're playing or

1039
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: not by then. Yeah, And so the and we want

1040
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Speaker 2: limited tomorrow is what you're.

1041
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Speaker 1: After, absolutely, And just want to remind people that, you know,

1042
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Speaker 1: other teams, other sports, sporting teams, they come to Pittsburgh

1043
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: to talk to the Steelers doctors about concussions, because like

1044
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: doctor Joseph Maroon is one of the head you know,

1045
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: he's one of the guys that is kind of groundbreaking

1046
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: stuff with all this concussion, and they have other guys

1047
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: that work with him. The concussion clinics and everything that

1048
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: are here are the best in the world.

1049
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Speaker 2: The world that angle. Yeah, good stuff. But that's worth

1050
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: talking about and we'll be talking about that all week though.

1051
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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean obviously two high profile players.

1052
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean nice have Golden in that last game too. Yeah,

1053
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: the way we're done.

1054
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Speaker 1: Anyways, that's going to do it for today's show. So

1055
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Speaker 1: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on

1056
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Speaker 1: site keeping us on the air and doing so despite

1057
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: being deathly ill.

1058
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that.

1059
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Speaker 1: Good work for Justin. I'm Dale Lollie. We appreciate you

1060
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Speaker 1: listening to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.