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Speaker 1: College Football Apostles is here. It is post Christmas, So

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Speaker 1: merry Christmas if you celebrated, Happy holidays to you and

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the new year as well. We wish you guys wealth,

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Speaker 1: prosperity and enjoying some great college football content. And of

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Speaker 1: course these bowl games, which everybody obviously cares about so much, right,

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about that, about the destruction of

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Speaker 1: And also Kyle Whittingham goes to Utah, we got to

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Speaker 1: but they got that nil money, so this is kind

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Speaker 1: talk about the new rivalries that are popped up because

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Speaker 1: of coaching changes, transfer portal, We got to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame and USC spind machine happening. Everybody's trying

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Speaker 1: to win the PR battle when everybody is at actually

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Speaker 1: still losing because the game is not being played. Steve

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Speaker 1: Sarkisian has comments about agents players going into transfer portal

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Speaker 1: and visiting their own school and uh, and we got

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Speaker 1: to talk about Jeremiah Smith's what if story and also

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly back in the NFL man that man stay

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Speaker 1: with a job. We got to talk about that and

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Speaker 1: so much more. Make sure that you guys like subscribe,

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Speaker 1: George Rerice, the former NFL player, college football player, college

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Speaker 1: football analysts for c W and on one of the

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Speaker 1: fastest growing college football channels on YouTube. To make sure

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Speaker 1: that you guys share. And I'm with my main man,

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Speaker 1: mister Ralph Amson rain Man himself, the man who comes

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Speaker 1: with all of the knowledge that you that you wish

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Speaker 1: you knew, but at the same time question how he

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Speaker 1: even got it in the in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know. People want people want to remember

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Speaker 2: their kids' birthdays. They don't want. They don't want eight

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Speaker 2: different years of Tony Gwinn's batting average stats memorized just

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Speaker 2: to not remember when their kid was born, Like you

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Speaker 2: don't want.

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Speaker 1: Hey, man, there's only so much knowledge that you can

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Speaker 1: push in the brain. Man, you gotta you know, priorities, priorities.

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Speaker 1: I was Christmas, Oh man, it was good. It was good.

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Speaker 1: Family was good. Well, family was healthy, family is safe.

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Speaker 1: Family ain't always good. Sometimes but it'll all work out eventually.

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Speaker 2: I feel that very very deeply. And yeah, everybody's healthy.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's been a year. When you get down here,

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Speaker 2: when you get down to the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, all right, I'm thankful for health.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm thankful for a lot of things. I'm thankful

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Speaker 1: for the people who watch this channel, because I will

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Speaker 1: tell you, and I've had this conversation with Ralph, I've

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Speaker 1: had this conversation with Josh Pate as well, like looking

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Speaker 1: at the channel and the growth from this year and

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Speaker 1: in the past few months, it has been I can't

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Speaker 1: even explain to you how thankful that we are and

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Speaker 1: how appreciative that we are for you guys sticking around

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Speaker 1: and giving us your time, because your time is the

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Speaker 1: most valuable thing that you have. And I hope that

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Speaker 1: we entertain educated and you have a good time while

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Speaker 2: George, I thought, the only thing that you do all

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Speaker 2: day every day is think about USC.

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Speaker 1: That's what people have said. All you do is talk

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Speaker 1: when have I ever only talked about USC? And it's

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Speaker 1: fun And this is related to the Notre dame thing

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Speaker 1: because USC fans are they are you know, see, here's sick.

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Speaker 1: They are very protective of USC and of their head

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Speaker 1: coach Lincoln Riley, because honestly, they have no choice because

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Speaker 1: if you're not, he's not going anywhere. There is no buyout.

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Speaker 1: You just have to grasp on the hope that this

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Speaker 1: work well. And so if I say anything that's even

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Speaker 1: a USC hater because they didn't offer him. USC sucked

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Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to go to USC at that point in time.

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Speaker 1: They're like, Pete Carroll, you're just mad Pete Carroll didn't

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had something like a friend of yours

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Speaker 2: You're thinking about my relationship instead of focusing on your own.

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Speaker 2: I got other things going on, but like this idea

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Speaker 1: And the code part is is that is it? Especially

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll just go into this now. Is so

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Speaker 1: their bowl game, at the bow Bowl game and say, well,

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Speaker 1: if if Notre Dame had been a man of their word,

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Speaker 1: essentially that we would still be playing over the next

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Speaker 1: scenes and what we know, right, USC and Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: was already scheduled, had dates set for twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty seven, and those dates were the customary

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Speaker 1: then gets you know, they they haven't really wanted to

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this will work with the schedule, schedule,

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Speaker 1: so difficult, blah blah blah. We called them out last year,

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Speaker 1: and and the call out was not a USC hate.

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Speaker 1: It was like a yo, you're not being you. This

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Speaker 1: is not USC like, And Keishawn is even saying so

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Speaker 1: other players they're like, this ain't the USC. We don't

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Speaker 1: duck the smoke. So what more can you say to

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Speaker 1: build somebody up than to us, say, listen, you acting

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Speaker 1: to do this. So we know that those dates were set.

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Speaker 1: We also know that then USC offered week zero. There

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Speaker 1: So then week zero is your only option. Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: did technically say anytime anywhere, but to play a Week

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Speaker 1: loses a lot of the gravitas surrounding the game. And

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Speaker 1: I one get it, Ralph. I hate this with everything

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Speaker 1: in my college football body.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of Lincoln Riley throwing out there

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Speaker 2: casually that within five minutes of USC being informed that

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Speaker 2: they had b WYU lined up. Basically, what he's implying

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Speaker 1: This is media spin, bro. They all they did is

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Speaker 1: Once you heard that news and that could potentially happen,

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Speaker 1: So that's what you do.

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Speaker 2: You're saying Notre Dame was watching your videos back since

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Speaker 2: May of you saying that that USC probably wanted out

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is sounds field. There is no different

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a difficult time to be defending

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Speaker 2: fifteen other things as backward and wrong and annoying as

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Speaker 2: And like, well no, but this one isolated thing is

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and I'm one of them people who is

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Speaker 1: those you don't discount the messenger because I'm sorry, don't

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is the right messenger on this USC Notre

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Speaker 2: So what do you think Marcus Freeman doing what the

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Speaker 1: I mean, did it well? I mean he kind of

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Speaker 1: I think the gate is getting narrow for for Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame and their twenty twenty six schedule. It is let

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Speaker 1: me let me pull it up there there, twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. So people bang on Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: schedule all the time, right, But I look at their

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Speaker 3: They were like, oh oh, their schedule is just atrocious.

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Speaker 1: And then check this out, Ralph, check this twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: I watched on December thirteenth, and then I've checked in.

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Speaker 2: go way, They're done. Is there any reason why we

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, there is literally no reason why you

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Speaker 2: You didn't love losing the Indian end of this year,

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Speaker 1: What what's going on with Nebraska? What's going on with uh? Ucla?

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, it's gonna be so fun. You did bring

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Speaker 2: Just open them Twitter dms and let it fly.

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00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: Oh, it ain't coome. Okay, hold up, it's not it yet.

434
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. It says it's there, but hold up.

435
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Let me do it on my on my computer. Then

436
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: hold on. All right, that's weird. It's not it's showing

437
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: that there's d M probably censored.

438
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: It's probably it's probably censored.

439
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: Bro, it's showing that there's d ms, but it's not.

440
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: Maybe Twitter's broken right now.

441
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: I think Twitter is trying to Twitter is trying to.

442
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Let me Google. Does it start out with an H?

443
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: It does?

444
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, and his first name is Colin? Right, his

445
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: first name is okay, Colin Hitchler Hitchler. Yeah, it's hi

446
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: T S C H L E R. Oh, that's not

447
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: about Hitchler. It just sounds a lot like Hitler. But look, yeah, how.

448
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: Many do you think his defense plays multiple fronts?

449
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: Wait? What?

450
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: Nothing? Let's move on. What's the next subject?

451
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: All right? So Michigan has their new head coach and

452
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham, a man that we have been talking about

453
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: for years that we have a really great interview here

454
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: on the Channel with. And I can't wait to get

455
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: up to Michigan to interview him up there at Michigan too, oh,

456
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: because we got all new stuff to talk about in Michigan. Boy.

457
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: So this man has been a constant winner at Utah.

458
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: He has been a developer. This is the guy who's

459
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: taking zero star Devin Lloyd to be a first round

460
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: pick star star to La Ta. Excuse me if I

461
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: butchered his name. You have I mean a players over

462
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: the course of twenty years that weren't I mean, he

463
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: what they just got their first five star kid. He

464
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: been working with a lot of three stars, making life

465
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: hell for everybody across the Mountain West, then the Pac twelve,

466
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: then now the Big twelve, making life hell for everybody.

467
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: He's beaten Alabama, He's beaten Florida, He's beaten Oregon. He's

468
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: beaten Alabama like there's so like there's a graveyard of people,

469
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: especially when you got to go to the musk, the

470
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: mighty Utah student section over there, Rice Echo, we have

471
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: always wondered Ralph what would happen if he got access

472
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: to five star recruits? And now Utah there's an ARTI

473
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: there's a video on the channel about Utah and what

474
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: they've been able to do with their new collective effort,

475
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: their private equity effort and the five hundred million dollars.

476
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: So if you want the explanation on that and why

477
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: we think that that's probably going to work and help

478
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: infuse Utah football, then go on the channel and go

479
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: check out that. But Ralph, this could not have been

480
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: a better higher for Michigan. They actually got a Michigan

481
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: ban it men of integrity because the last couple have

482
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: not been have not fit the bill at all, even

483
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: though they pretended to be. And they're gonna develop the

484
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: Michigan brand, is gonna unlock access to recruits. As an

485
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: Oregon guy, this makes me a lot more nervous even

486
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley than Lincoln Riley being hired at USC That

487
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: didn't scare me.

488
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

489
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: This, on the other hands, a little nerve wrecking.

490
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: This is the best available coach. They should feel very

491
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: very good about that, and I know they do. Maybe

492
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: not at first, but Michigan fans are as good as

493
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: any fan base in America convincing themselves that they did

494
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: the right thing, falling in line and getting behind the

495
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: headman in charge. They have been. Michigan fans have been

496
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: uniquely annoying online for the last month, and they've kind

497
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: of had to be. They were put in a really

498
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: tough spot by the previous head coach, and they've had

499
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: a lot going on and they've had to defend themselves

500
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: from everybody at all times. So they're highly, highly paranoid.

501
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: They also haven't been in a position to really hire

502
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: a head coach in a very long time, so you know,

503
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: it was confusing as an Arizona State guide to have

504
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: them come in and be like, give me that we

505
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: could have had them if we wanted to, Like, no,

506
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: you could not have. That was never an option. It

507
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: was never a thing. You know, they're they're not. Everybody

508
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: is available to you all the time, but at the

509
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: end of the day, you got the best available coach

510
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: and the I remember the a few days ago the

511
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: barstool account said, Hey, we got ourselves an elite recruiter,

512
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: and that made me laugh because, you know, Kyle Whittingham,

513
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: it's hard to get guys to Salt Lake.

514
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: You know this.

515
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: You went on a visit with your son to Salt Lake. Like,

516
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: as a black man with a black son, there's some

517
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: decisions that need to be made when you're in that position.

518
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: I talked to Jade and Daniel's mom about why she

519
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: didn't go take her son to usc why she didn't

520
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: take her sun to Utah. Yeah, you know, and it

521
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: was like that there's not necessarily the history that they

522
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: that we want there to be here for somebody who

523
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: looks and plays like my son to be ultimately successful.

524
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: You know, they could think that there's other reasons involved

525
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: all they want. That's just from a conversation I had

526
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: with her on the sideline at ASU practice one time.

527
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: So you know, it was not always easy to get

528
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: athlete to Salt Lake. And so the two major weaknesses

529
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: for Utah over the last fifteen years have been number one,

530
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: getting the best available talent to Salt Lake City convincing

531
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: them to go there, because only sixteen percent of the

532
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: guys that Kyle Whittingham has gotten to the NFL in

533
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: the last ten seasons have been four stars above, and

534
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: a four star is somebody who is projected to go

535
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: to the NFL. So that means eighty four percent were

536
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: not projected by the ratings agencies to get to that,

537
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: and that's incredible. The twenty seventeen year alone, the twenty

538
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: seventeen NFL draft class out of Utah that had eight

539
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 2: players is the greatest example of development in college football history.

540
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: I will stand by that. I think it's completely factual,

541
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: and he did an incredible job. I don't well, I'll

542
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: get to that in a second. The other thing was depth.

543
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: They were very good in the Pac twelve, but they

544
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 2: ran out of gas. And if you want there's no

545
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: better example of this. If you pull up his career

546
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: head coaching record, a lot of that for the initial

547
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: time was spent in the Mountain West right, So in

548
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: the Mountain West era they had double digit wins three

549
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: times and he went seven to one in bowls at

550
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: the end of the season. In the Pac twelve era,

551
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: he actually hasn't won a bowl since twenty seventeen. At

552
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: the end of every season. Yeah, at the end of

553
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: every season they are beat to hell. They have running

554
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: backs playing corner.

555
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: Yes, they are super injured.

556
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: So one of the things I think it solves for

557
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: him is depth issues because with the physicality that they

558
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: play with, Michigan is going to have guys that you

559
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: can go to at the end of the season to

560
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: fill that role and not have a major drop off.

561
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: So I think that that's incredibly exciting and access to

562
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: better players. So he's going to get the two things

563
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: that have maybe been his weakness at U and we

564
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: could be seeing an all time run come out of

565
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: the Michigan Wolverines. Where I wonder, and I think it's

566
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: fair to wonder, even though Michigan fans and my mansions

567
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: have been telling me I'm the biggest moron on Earth.

568
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: Is can you take a developer and put them in

569
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: a position where they are getting high end talent that

570
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: don't necessarily need to be developed, that have a million

571
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: other options if they want to transfer out, and can

572
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: you get that system down to about two to three

573
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: years because the floor is higher, So you're getting a

574
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: guy who essentially comes in maybe at year three, where

575
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: you get them to at Utah, but they're not going

576
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: to be around four to five years. Michigan does have

577
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: some guys that stick around that long. They got three

578
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: four stars and are above that are fifth year players,

579
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: I think on this year's roster. But you know, is

580
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: he going to be able to have access to the

581
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: roster for the amount of time he needs to to

582
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 2: do what he's going to do? Are Michigan State.

583
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Here's the part that you're missing out on too, is

584
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: that four and five star players typically take less time

585
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: to develop. So he so he so his development plan

586
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: can now get expedited.

587
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: Or is it obsolete? Because if you look at guys

588
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: like LeKi Fotu or guys like JJ Dielman both to

589
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: Lekio is a two star, JJ Dealman was a three star.

590
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: He put one hundred pounds on both of those guys.

591
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're saying that that's the thing that made

592
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: it great. Now you don't have time to do that.

593
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: So now does that nerve his his superpower or or does.

594
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: He just not need his superpower in this environment? Because

595
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: the point oh, speaking of non applicable, isn't a weakness?

596
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Non applicable could just mean you can focus on other things.

597
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, there is an on three report that I was

598
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: reading that that that popped up on my phone. Well, sorry, arrivals.

599
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: Other programs could circle back on Elite on five star

600
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: quarterback BYU sign ee Rider Lions once he returns from

601
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: his mission trip. Guess who one of those schools is

602
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: a Michigan Where else do you think people don't realize

603
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: where he was probably going to go if it wasn't BYU.

604
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: He's a Cali guy, right, yeah, but he was going

605
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: to go to Oregon, So oh really Michigan Oregon? And

606
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: where did Oregon's OC go?

607
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: Kentucky?

608
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: Yep, those are the three schools.

609
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: That's interesting, So can I can we can we ask

610
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: a question? Maybe that's a little sensitive for Utah fans

611
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: right now because they had a coach who's been there

612
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: for thirty years just leave to go to Michigan. They

613
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: thought he was retiring. That's not necessarily the message that

614
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: we're getting.

615
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: That.

616
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody's at fault here because when

617
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: ty Jordan accidentally shot himself and passed away, Yeah, I

618
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: think it put Kyle Whittingham in a place, and that

619
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: one the only player that they had passed away that year.

620
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: It put Kyle Whittingham in a place where he wasn't

621
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure if he could put his whole

622
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: self into this, and he went into this year over

623
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: year thing where it was like, I'll see if I

624
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: can coach this year. I'll see if I can coach

625
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: this year. And it feels like there's people behind the

626
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: scenes at Utah that just said, Okay, Kyle, we're going

627
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: to make that decision for you. We appreciate you, we

628
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: love you for everything that you did, but we don't

629
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: want to be held hostage by you not knowing if

630
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: you have a long term commitment to us. I feel

631
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: like if he did, then Morgan Scout would have turned

632
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: around and maybe taken one of these other jobs that

633
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: could have been sure for sure. So for they're making

634
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: this move for the future. Morgan Scally is fascinating because

635
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: he has never been anywhere else ever, not as a student,

636
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: not as a GA, not as a position coach, not

637
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: as a DC, and now not as a head coach.

638
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: He is the most Utah man that ever existed on earth.

639
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean, as very Bryant heartline is right.

640
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: Well until now. Yeah, So if you're if if you're

641
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: expecting to move into this new era with somebody who

642
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: is the most Utah man of all time. You know,

643
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: you got to do something with Kyle Whittingham. And I

644
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: was told that they were going to pay his contract,

645
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: they were going to pay his grandkids tuition. All they

646
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: wanted him was to be around in sort of a

647
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: support role, stick around in Salt Lake City. And he

648
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: wasn't done. He wants to win a natty Dude. It's funny.

649
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to bring up Kilani Sataki, but

650
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: then I forgot, dude. He actually had two stints outside

651
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: of Utah. He was at Eastern Arizona as a dB

652
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: Coaching Special Teams coach, and then he was at Oregon

653
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: State for one year in twenty fifteen. Outside of that,

654
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: he's been at in the state of Utah from two

655
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: thousand and one, well actually going back prior to that,

656
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: where his starting in ninety four, goes to BYU, but

657
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: then has a mission ninety seventy two thousand played at BYU,

658
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: then he goes to the Cincinnati Bengals. So he stepped

659
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: foot out of Utah a couple of times, but it

660
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: wasn't for very long.

661
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how pissed off that whole state would

662
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: be if Penn State had been successful and they lose

663
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: a Tackey and winning in the same year.

664
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: Well, actually, Wittyham might have ended up in Utah then

665
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: all right, b yu, Yes, that would have been fascinating.

666
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: Where okay, so where he went to school, that'd be crazy.

667
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: So I have one question for you and one point

668
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: to make. I'll make my point first. I know that

669
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: there's some Utah fans that are sore about the fact

670
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: that Morgan scale is gonna have to turn around and

671
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: probably hire a new offensive coordinator. Right, yep, Well, did

672
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: you want Morgan Scalley to be the Utah head coach

673
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: or not? Because a big part of being the Utah

674
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: head coach is finding a new offensive coordinator. Yes, for

675
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: a couple of years regularly. Yeah, so you might as

676
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: well just jump in the deep end. And then for you, George,

677
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: do you think there's any possibility here that this ends

678
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: up being something that gets messy, that gets that that

679
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: creates n of a sour spot between Utah fans and Oh, it.

680
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Definitely will, depending on how many coaches leave and how

681
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: many players because you just had one of their best

682
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: excuse me. The defensive lineman. He got hurt this year,

683
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: but he'll be back ready for next year. He just

684
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: hopped into portal. He had eleven and a half sacks

685
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: last time he played, so so that is a big deal.

686
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely think that there's gonna be some

687
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: tension depending on who gets poached.

688
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: And how much patience should we have for Morgan Scaley.

689
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 1: A learning year recruiting building. I say, by year three

690
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: he needs to be making significant strides, like top three.

691
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: If he's not finishing top three in the Big twelve

692
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: in year three, it's a problem.

693
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: If they ain't man they got If the Utah fans

694
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: have three years of patients in them, God bless them.

695
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, but you can't be terrible like I'm

696
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: talking about, Like yeah, because they're gonna lose a bunch

697
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: of players this year. Some coaches, I'll give them eight

698
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: and four, seven and five next year, and then the

699
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: year after that nine wins. Then after that we gotta

700
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: be flirting with flirting with the playoff, flirting with it.

701
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: We don't have to get in, but we gotta flirt. Okay,

702
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: all right, Speaking of the Michigan Utah rivalry, there are

703
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: some interesting rivalries that are being you know, that are

704
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: being formed that we didn't even expect. There's the LSU

705
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Old Miss because of Lane Kiffin, Like, there's there that

706
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: is creating something. And especially if Old Miss wins, Lord

707
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: have mercy, Like when's that game when they when they play, Oh,

708
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: it's is gonna be sweet and then it's gonna get nasty.

709
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: B Yu and Notre Dame creating a thing. Love it

710
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be playing now. Yeah, Notre Dame in

711
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: USC whenever they play again is going to be hostile.

712
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: This is there's gonna be a I mean Cal and

713
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: Kentucky are gonna try to beef with Oregon, but actually

714
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: Kentucky not so much, but more Cal and Oregon because

715
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Tash is gonna want to you know, there's already some

716
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: rubbing because of how many coaches that he's taken from

717
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: Oregon and maybe some players. But I get it. He

718
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: feels entitled to some of it. He's like, I brought

719
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: a lot of these dudes here. I got a lot

720
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: of these recruits here. So but yeah, so the rivalries

721
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: because of the coaches and players transferred. I love it. It

722
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: only makes college football better because it creates a rivalry

723
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: somewhere that it normally takes decades to create.

724
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: I'm with you, like if you if you want to

725
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 2: know how healthy college football is despite its leadership trying

726
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: to kill it off, all you gotta do is hop

727
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: online and see how active some of these fans get.

728
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: Because like old Miss fans are on lane Kiffin's ass.

729
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: Yep, he hass yeah, and he you know, he likes

730
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: it in a weird way.

731
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: He likes it. I'm I'm kind of concerned about the

732
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: dude being honest because he Lane Kiffin is online. He

733
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: knows what his mentions say. He knows what his mentions

734
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: look like. Yes, but he knows every single time if

735
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: he posts a photo of him with like young co eds,

736
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: he knows. He knows what's in the replies, right, he

737
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: knows how wild it gets in the replies. Well, the

738
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: other day he posts a photo of his sister in

739
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: law and his niece, and guess what the comments were.

740
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: They were what they always are. And then he's telling

741
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: Miss fans to calm down, like, buddy, what are you

742
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: putting your niece online for?

743
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: You know you happen? Yeah, Like, man, he might be

744
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: prepared for a reality show for him or something.

745
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe, man, maybe that's it. Maybe that's the rising

746
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: tide that lifts all boats. Is his infamy results in

747
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: in that for all the women in his life. But

748
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: I would say for right now, like maybe keep them

749
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: away from the wolves, the wolves that you stirred up

750
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: in the first food to over the yeahs, you know

751
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: you got tens of thousands of people mad online. You're

752
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: gonna post a picture of your niece. Yeah, let's not

753
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: like and so, but it just goes to show, like

754
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: in the LSU fans that are defending him, they're doing

755
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: their job. That game has already circled on the calendar.

756
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: September is gonna be crazy BYU and Notre Dame. Oh

757
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: my god, are they getting after it?

758
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: Are you serious already?

759
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, because you know, it was one thing

760
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: that they scheduled the game, which kind of gave them

761
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: an avenue to talk trash. And BYU fans are elite,

762
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: elite trash talkers, and they do it and the nice

763
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: about it too, Not really, but they you know, they're

764
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: they're they're polite in a very cutting way. And then

765
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: you had by you win the Bowl game that Notre

766
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: Dame opted out of and so you're just got BYU

767
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: fans just pressing the screws to to these Notre Dame

768
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: fans that were saying like they'd be embarrassed to see

769
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: their head coach eat a pop tart without leaving any crumbs.

770
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: But and so like that, one's crazy. Basically every fan

771
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: base that Michigan has ever interacted with is ready to

772
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: fight them to the death. And so you know, I

773
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: just I love it. It's sometimes you walk in the room

774
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: and everything's on fire, but but it I mean the

775
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: fact that.

776
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Where everything's fine, everything's great.

777
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Actually, like this is the fire is a good thing.

778
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: The passion is a good thing. But the fact that

779
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: this is happening in late December with a bunch of

780
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: teams that aren't even in the mix for a title.

781
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: This is the best sport in the world. And I

782
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: love it speaking to that. Uh, Steve sarkisyan. He is

783
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: not happy, bro, He is not sleeping, he is not resting.

784
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: So now that he no longer you know, his uh,

785
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: you know, begging to get into college football playoff is

786
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: no longer relevant, he had to pick and this time

787
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: it's about nil and the transfer portal and you know,

788
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: just acquiring players, high school players and all that stuff.

789
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: And about agents. Now I SCRAMed that in a way

790
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: like I don't agree with him, but I won one

791
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent agree with Sark talking about agents and how

792
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: they are and how a lot of these guys are

793
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: not qualified, and that this is their first time negotiating

794
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: somebody's deal and it makes it increasingly difficult. He said,

795
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: there are some agents that are rational, and there are

796
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: some that are this is their first time ever get

797
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: to be an agent. I don't even know if they're licensed.

798
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: We can't even deal with this now. This is one

799
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: hundred percent correct. I could not be mad at Sark

800
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: for this at all, because when you are a professional, right,

801
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: when you are a professional and you have to deal

802
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: with unprofessional people, that makes it very difficult because there's

803
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: an order of doing business and they don't know what

804
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: should be in contracts, what can be, what can't be,

805
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: Like you have to teach and play at the same time,

806
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: so you're trying to negotiate with them, but then also

807
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: give yourself favorable terms, but don't screw the player, so

808
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: then later on the player is not like, yo, you

809
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: screwed me with this contract and then say that to

810
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: other people, and then that makes other people sweamish to

811
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: commit to you. So you're actually acting sort of as

812
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: a producer to the player while trying to take care

813
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: of your own interest at the same time. This is

814
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: a disaster, and there needs to be some sort of

815
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: of standardized representation agreements because I've heard of kids getting

816
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: given up up to twenty percent of their NIL, well

817
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: sorry of their not of their nil, because their NIL

818
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: is separate. And if somebody gets you a deal with

819
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: coke or Pepsi or rocket or anybody else that is

820
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: in the real world, a fifteen to twenty percent take

821
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: like that's normal, waxing ten to twenty percent take that

822
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent normal. But of your contract, of

823
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: your pay for play money, that should be no more

824
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: than three percent.

825
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: I agree with you, And which is one of the

826
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: NFL as it said as and I don't know who's

827
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 2: going to hear this, but if you got an uncle

828
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: who's never set foot on a college campus set to

829
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: bring his fourteen U sevens team to a photo shoot,

830
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: and you've got an uncle who, uh, the only reading

831
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: he's ever done is a cheesecake factory menu you're gonna

832
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna get yourself into some type of agreement that's

833
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: not good for you. And you're gonna create animosity where

834
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: there doesn't need to be any You don't need to

835
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: hold these colleges hostage. They're all friendly, all looking to

836
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: do something life changing for you. You don't have to.

837
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: You don't have to play everybody off each other for

838
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: the scrap at the very end, right So, and you

839
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: you also don't want to end up signing a contract

840
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: that says that they could chase you for everything, even

841
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: what they've already paid you, if you don't fulfill one

842
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: of the terms of what it is you're engaging in.

843
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: So you got to be really careful and who represents you.

844
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 2: That being said, it's not like SEC coaches haven't been

845
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: dealing with wild uncles this entire time. Yes, the thing

846
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: that Sark said that I did kind of get a

847
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: kick out of was when he said, you know, I'm

848
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: probably gonna be on the phone with an agent later

849
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: today and he's gonna tell me we're looking for this

850
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: much and I'm gonna tell him, like, good luck. If

851
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: you don't get it, call us back, Because I mean,

852
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: they just had Trey Weisner jump in the portal right

853
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: like there might be some seriously unfair expectations. At the

854
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: same time, Texas is outbidding people for recruits like they're

855
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: playing this game. They're the ones who set the market

856
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: for an It's.

857
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: Just you got Matt Ruhle just got a new new deal.

858
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: Kaylen de Boor is getting ready to get a new deal.

859
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: All of these people under contract are going to be

860
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: getting a new deal. So now we're gonna blame the

861
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: players when the coaches are the leaders and they set

862
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: the example for how this works.

863
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: That is correct. And Sark pre tax makes thirty three

864
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a day every day you're rent, so you know,

865
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: but they you know, Texas set the market for offensive linemen.

866
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: They're the ones who started paying like, you know, one

867
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: hundred k. It's way higher than that now, but you know,

868
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: they have money. It is interesting to talk to listen

869
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: to the habs complain about Gavir problems. So Sark's definitely

870
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: not somebody I feel sorry for. He's paid very handsomely

871
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: to deal with the stress that he's dealing with. But

872
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: I think he makes a really important point about the

873
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 2: unscrupulous nature of some of the representation of these kids.

874
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: We also need to protect these kids by getting them

875
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: multi year deals because schools are looking to boot out

876
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: anybody that they can. A school should have an allegiance

877
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: to somebody through a coaching transition, through a position coach transition.

878
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: There should be some protection for the prospects, including not

879
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: having an agent that talks them into a portal every

880
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: single year, because the agent doesn't get paid if they

881
00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 2: don't transfer.

882
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yep, exactly. No, that that is a very

883
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: very fair point. All right. Now, the next thing up,

884
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: speaking of transfer portal players, there is a player who

885
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: is in the transfer portal. What's the name Grant segrin

886
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: offensive offensive lineman at Oklahoma State. Hayes Fawcett graphic shout

887
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: out Hayes, who does a really good job and he

888
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: has parlayed making graphics into working at on three. Love

889
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: to see it. So this young man has, uh, they

890
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: put out a visiting like what schools he's gonna visit?

891
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: He was at Oklahoma State last year. Actually, I'll just

892
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: put the graphic up the way you guys can see

893
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: the way. You know, it's fun. He's visiting Auburn, which

894
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: is a fantastic place to play football. Alex Goldish, new

895
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: head coach. Everything's good visiting North Northwestern. I mean his

896
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: grades are good, you know, quality college football program, good

897
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: for office linemen. They play hard, they play tough. Arkansas

898
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Silverfield, new head coach. Not mad at that Oklahoma State?

899
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Why are we visiting? Can't we just like sit down

900
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: with the new head coach, Eric Moores and from North

901
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: Texas and just have a discussion. Is this a visit

902
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: or is this just saying Oklahoma State's not out of

903
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: the running, Like I'm I guess open to coming back.

904
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: I guess They said he's gonna get together with the

905
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: other group of transfers that they plan on bringing in

906
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: to see how he meshes and jails with a lot

907
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: of them. This is very funny, Like, this is a

908
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: situation you never want to be in as a dad.

909
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: You never want to be visiting your own house. Yes, ooh,

910
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: things have gone terribly wrong if you're on a supervised

911
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: visit to your own home.

912
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: You ain't lied about that, buddy, You have not lied

913
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: about that at all. Jesus Christ.

914
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: What's worse this visiting your own school, having it be

915
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: on a graphic when you're in the transfer portal that

916
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 2: you're visiting your own school or re signing one year

917
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: deals when you were never up for grabs in the

918
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: first place, like we've seen at USC.

919
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: I would probably say resigning at USC like that. It

920
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: just feels like you're creating a culture of like renegotiation

921
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: every single year, and you're putting it on front street.

922
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 1: So I think that that is, you know, a question

923
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: all by itself.

924
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I love it for the idea

925
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: of like getting somebody's name out there to make them

926
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: a more valuable commodity. But if you do it for everybody,

927
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 2: nobody special.

928
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: That's a fact, Jack, that is a fact.

929
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: So we got another interesting thing playing out on social

930
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: media that is fascinating to me. Clemson a team and

931
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: coach you love, I love. We thought great things are

932
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: going to happen for them this year. It did not

933
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: turn out that way. They actually finished with a losing

934
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: record on the season at six and seven after a

935
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: Bowl loss. But I've never seen this before ever, and

936
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: maybe it's happened before and Clemson fans can educate us,

937
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: But having somebody who spent four years at Clemson take

938
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: a shot at the program on the way out is

939
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: new territory for me, and they had a running back

940
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 2: hit the portal. His names Keith Adams Junior. He's actually

941
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: from Utah. Yeah, he said, I was not used in

942
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: the right way at my previous school, Clemson, and have

943
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: proven multiple times that I am worthy to play. I

944
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: have one more year of eligibility and I plan on

945
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: making a huge impact wherever I go. I guarantee I'll

946
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: be the hardest running back to tackle in college football.

947
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: And then he was forced to kind of tweet out

948
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: practice and scrimmage highlights because he only has forty two

949
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: carries in four years at Clemson. They just fired their

950
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator on Lincoln Riley's brother, like they they did

951
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: not run the ball well.

952
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: And it was just horrendous on film. It was when

953
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: you're watching all twenty two, You're like, I don't they're

954
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: not accounting for people who are in the box. It was.

955
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: It was horrible. It was horrendous.

956
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: And he's saying, and I think he clarified ultimately said, like,

957
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: no disrespect to Davo, but when you've never seen anybody

958
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: break ranks like that, But but.

959
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: You hired coaches that didn't use me correctly, So okay.

960
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: So when I interviewed Dabbo and you were there as well,

961
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the things he said to us was that

962
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: people don't say things about bad things about Clemson in

963
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: the house. It's outside the house, right, He's technically outside

964
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: the house now, And sometimes for players, I can understand

965
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: it can be highly frustrating when you don't get the

966
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: opportunity that you feel like that you can do something.

967
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not taking this as a as a I

968
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: feel like this is a kid who's upset but also

969
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: wants to show like, yo, I'm really about that life.

970
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't used properly. I got gas, and I'm not

971
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: mad at that. Like if I were Dabbo, this wouldn't

972
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: upset me, not even the slightest. I'd be like, listen, kid,

973
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: I wish you well. It didn't work out here. You

974
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: probably have your degree already since you only have one

975
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: year of eligibility left, and I hope it works out

976
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: for you, that that would be it, because that that

977
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: feels like Dabbo's actual approach to it, that he would that,

978
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: above anything, he would want this kid to have his

979
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: degree and go have a great life. And thrive in football.

980
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: If that's in the cards form, what would.

981
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: You do if you because this is this is an

982
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: interesting post from Keith Adams. Ah. He is projecting himself

983
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: as having been worthy of playing at Clemson.

984
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

985
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: The market's going to speak as to whether there's interest

986
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: or not. Do you think he's somebody who should be

987
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: looking for a power conference to play at in order

988
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: to justify how he feels about himself or should somebody

989
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 2: with one year left be looking to get the rock?

990
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: I think somebody should be looking to get the rock.

991
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 1: And you have to be okay. One of the things

992
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: that people don't always realize is that for a player

993
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: to be successful, you do have to have some coach advocacy.

994
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: That coaches have to that the coach has to be

995
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: not just in your corner, because at some point in time,

996
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: everybody needs the benefit of the doubt. Look at Jamar Chase.

997
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: When he first got to the Bengals, he couldn't catch

998
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: a cold, he couldn't play dead, and then all of

999
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: a sudden they kept giving him the opportunity. Soon this

1000
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: season starts he catching everything because they kept the belief

1001
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: in him and every player at some point in time

1002
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: needs a coach to be like, ah, I know this

1003
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: was a bad day, but I'm gonna stick stick with

1004
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: him today. Steph Curry needed it at Davidson after his

1005
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: first game and then all of a sudden it was

1006
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: over after that. Imagine if his coach had put him

1007
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: on the bench. And this kid may just need some

1008
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: advocacy in his life, andefully he gets that wherever he goes.

1009
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be I mean, I'll be rooting for him.

1010
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: He gave, he gave Clemson four years, he got one

1011
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: year of eligibility. Why would you root against somebody like this? Yeah,

1012
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, he wants to prove himself. I hope Clemson

1013
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: fans feel the same way. I hope they look at

1014
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: him as a Tiger for life, for what it's worth.

1015
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, lasting up. Jeremiah Smith's what if because he was

1016
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: asked if he would have if Miami was having the

1017
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: success that they have now because he's from Miami, He's

1018
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: from Florida, would he have gone to Miami or well,

1019
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: would he have considered Miami instead of going to Ohio State?

1020
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: And he essentially said yes, yes, I would have because

1021
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: I'd have had just stay stay home. Blah, blah blah.

1022
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: And I think that this presents a interesting dynamic because,

1023
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: on one hand, I don't necessarily believe that that's true, because

1024
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: Ohio States put out so many why receivers into the

1025
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: NFL that it's hard to turn that down. If you're

1026
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: a five star and they wanted you. With Brian Hartline,

1027
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: hard to turn that down because you know, if you

1028
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: go there and start, you're gonna be a first round pick.

1029
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: And Miami, granted that's home. But I do think that

1030
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: he's serious about them actually have been a factor in

1031
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: his recruitment. I do, and I do think that that's

1032
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: why it's important to be to have hope and to

1033
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: consistently be putting out a product that people can be

1034
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: proud of, because then you can sell to the number

1035
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: one recruit in the nation like, yo, I know we

1036
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: haven't like if you were like if the number one

1037
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: recruit was coming out of the state of Utah, right

1038
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: and you're BYU, you can be like yo, you can

1039
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: come be a part of this. You see how close

1040
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: we are. Players like you and y'all link up with

1041
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: two of kids, and then we get a couple more.

1042
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: This will be the class that takes us to the

1043
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: national championship. You can sell that. You don't want to

1044
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: try to be selling a two, three, four year plan.

1045
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: You need to be selling this could happen next year.

1046
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: I love this type of stuff because it obviously didn't happen,

1047
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: but it provides this like alternate universe in college football,

1048
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 2: like the college football multiverse. Right. We talked on our

1049
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: last show about you possibly playing for University of Arizona

1050
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: or UCLA out of high school. Yeah, and you get

1051
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: this sliding doors moment of what could have been. And

1052
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: every single college football team out there has that recruit

1053
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: that just got away, or the quarterbacks that didn't do

1054
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: well for them but went somewhere else and blew up.

1055
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: Like we just watched Texas A and M go to

1056
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: the Coege football playoff with Marcel Reid, but Connor Weigman

1057
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: had a ten win season and Haines King was one

1058
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in college football. And they had

1059
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: both those guys at Texas A and M. So you

1060
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: get this crazy kind of you know what if scenario

1061
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: Cal had to watch it with Fernando Mendoza. But it's

1062
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: the stuff that never happened that could have that I

1063
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: think just consumes college football fans of like the recruit

1064
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: you almost got right, yes, and I don't.

1065
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: Know where that is dayt to them allow and then or.

1066
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: Tua yeah, or Mark Halfridge blew that they could have

1067
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: had Tua.

1068
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: Yep, but what does that? But also they messed up

1069
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: the Johnny Manzelle thing and got Mariota.

1070
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. It's it's always funny how that works out,

1071
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: how there's always a tomorrow no matter what. And I

1072
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: love stuff like this. Thinking about Jeremiah Smith as a

1073
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: Miami Hurricane, you know, they got a rich enough history

1074
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: to where it's not gonna bother him too much. But

1075
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: if he goes off in this game, those comments are

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: gonna sting just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think right about that. But you guys, we have

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Speaker 1: college foot Ball Bowl game. Well actually, well today's slate

1079
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: is pretty damn good. We have the early game is

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina Louisiana Tech. Then we got Tennessee Illinois. I

1081
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: will be watching this today and USC TCU, but Hoover

1082
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: is not even at TCU anymore, so that could get tricky.

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: So I'm actually excited to see some of these, but

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: they could get turned off early but you guys enjoyed

1085
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: the college football oh Ralph, let's do this because there

1086
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: are four college football playoff games will go real quick,

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: starting with the one tomorrow Miami, Ohio State. Ohio State

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01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: that thinks favored by nine and a half. Wait, damn it,

1089
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: I forgot Yeah, their favored by nine and a half.

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01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: Who wins this football game? Because Miami's I mean, like

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: you you look at the lines and you're like, ooh my,

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: Miami might have a shot because they probably have the

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: better offensive line, even though that they don't run the

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01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: ball quite as well. They have the best better defensive

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01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: line probably too, even though oh I mean like saying

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01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: that they're better is like saying do you want Carmelo

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01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: Anthony or Dwayne Wade. It's like that, So who wins

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01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: this football game?

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: I think you run into a situation where the recipe

1100
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: is is such that all of one particular player's flaws

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: could be on display in the same game. And so

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that player's name out loud, because

1103
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: I think plenty of people will be saying his name

1104
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: once this game ends. But I'd like Ohio State to cover.

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01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: Hey, I definitely think that that's probably the most likely outcome.

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01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: I do think that we both of these defenses are

1107
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: really good. I just if you're asking me who do

1108
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: I trust more, Julian's saying to not throw, to not

1109
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: have multiple turnovers, or Carson Beck to not have multiple turnovers.

1110
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Julian saying saying, all right, we got

1111
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: Alabama Indiana six and a half points. I believe who

1112
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: you got in this game because I got Indian is

1113
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: not SmackDown.

1114
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. It is not the time of

1115
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: year to be one dimensional no or yeah, like truly

1116
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:59,440
Speaker 2: one dimensional.

1117
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this might well be I'm you, this might

1118
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: as well be an air eight team. Actually Air air

1119
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 1: ra teams at times run the ball better than Alabama does.

1120
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Speaker 2: I do hope that it doesn't. Like I don't even

1121
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 2: know if Indiana has this capability. I guess we'll find out.

1122
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: But every once in a while, when Indiana gets out

1123
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: in front of somebody, the way they step on next

1124
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. And if that were to happen in a

1125
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: college football playoff game against Alabama where Kurt Signetti used

1126
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: to coach, that's everybody on notice. That's Indiana going from

1127
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: not just one seed but college football playoff favorite.

1128
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, old Miss Georgia, Right, Old Miss sounds

1129
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: like a good story. But Trinidad Chamberliss already said he's

1130
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: hopping in the portal. You got guys half in, half out,

1131
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: some of them going to LSU. This could be a

1132
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: tricky situation. I'm taking Georgia and for them to line

1133
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: them up and just run them over. Now, mind you,

1134
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: Old Miss was a head in the fourth quarter against

1135
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: Georgia and Chamberless and this team fell apart. I think

1136
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: that Georgia is playing better, They're improved on defense, they

1137
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: got covered that this could get nasty.

1138
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. Chambliss pretty much

1139
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: carried them the last time around. In this game he

1140
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 2: had I think he was responsible for five touchdowns. Georgia

1141
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: didn't let Kawan Lacey do anything. And it's the only

1142
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 2: time all year where Kawan Lacey didn't look like a superstar.

1143
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: It's probably the only reason why he wasn't in Heisman conversation.

1144
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: Was that Georgia game. So and the thing you have

1145
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: to remember about Georgia is they had to kick three

1146
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: field goals because they mismanaged a couple of their drives.

1147
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: That game where they came back from down eleven in

1148
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter probably should have been closer to a

1149
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: twenty to twenty four point Georgia win. I think that's

1150
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: probably what we see this time around. It's been an

1151
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: in credible story for this offense. Ole miss defense has

1152
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: actually been generating turnovers. So maybe they make a big play.

1153
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, Georgia with time to plan, that's scary.

1154
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oregon Texas Tech. This line has ballooned up Ralph

1155
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 1: from one and a half to two and a half.

1156
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: There's a whole preview on these games on on on

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01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: the channels. You guys can check those out. Ralph. I'm

1158
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: torn on who I'm gonna take. I think I'm gonna

1159
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: take the Ducks, though.

1160
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: I like Oregon.

1161
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm not torn at all.

1162
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 2: I know I like Oregon two for the simple reason

1163
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 2: that they they're gonna be at home, and the nastiest

1164
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: thing about this Texas Tech thing, the team, the thing

1165
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 2: they do better than anybody, is something that Oregon's offensive

1166
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: line actually can can neutralize to a certain extent. So

1167
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: I think as long as Dante Morris upright and healthy

1168
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 2: and takes the yards in front of him when they

1169
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: are available. This is gonna be an Oregon win. I

1170
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: have a question for you, George. Is Austin Nova said

1171
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: even available? What's the let's say? Okay, so what happens

1172
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: takes a big.

1173
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: I do not know. He actually might be available.

1174
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: But this is one team that it's important to know

1175
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: who you're back.

1176
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 1: Oh who is a backup? Brock Thomas is the backup?

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Speaker 2: Okay, then that would be it. You might even got

1178
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: to get a package in for Luke Mogan just to

1179
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: run like you got to run against this this Texas

1180
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: Tech team, because they're gonna collapse the edges of that pocket.

1181
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: You take two to three yards, hopefully not take too

1182
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: big of a hit. This is a nasty, nasty d line.

1183
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's enough to win a Super Bowl. We'll see

1184
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: if it's enough to win a college football playoff. But

1185
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: I like Oregon as well.

1186
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you guys. That is college Football Apostles,

1187
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: the last one of twenty. We will be back next year,

1188
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: which is next week, So you guys, make sure you

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01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: guys keep it locked. Peace out, catch you guys later.