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Speaker 1: of this extravaganza. All right, what time are we expecting, Linda?

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Speaker 1: Linda said that not in New New York, for she

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Speaker 1: I know. Alright, a lot to get to today. Uh,

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Speaker 1: This election was about the forgotten men and forgotten women

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Speaker 1: this particular case, and there have been calls by a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, including Republicans and Chuck Schumer, they need

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Speaker 1: an ethics investigation. Well, the investment investigation may end up

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Speaker 1: with the expulsion potentially of Al Franken. But as I

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Speaker 1: top of my head that when it comes and I

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Speaker 1: laid out a history of this last night, you know,

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Speaker 1: for thirty years now, when it comes to politics, the

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Speaker 1: issues involving the mistreatment of women come second, especially involving

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Speaker 1: the Clintons. I laid out in great detail last night

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Speaker 1: how all of these women were smeared and slandered and

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Speaker 1: besmirched and attacked and and referred to bimbos and worse

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Speaker 1: and and others surrounding all. You drag a hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: through a trailer park and that went on, and uh,

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Speaker 1: all Hillary would say is oh, that's in the past

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Speaker 1: or a vast right wing conspiracy. And now even the

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Speaker 1: New York Times is jumping on board the saying yeah,

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Speaker 1: I believe I need a little late. Of course, then

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Speaker 1: Monica Lewinsky happened. I don't think anybody really doubted at

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Speaker 1: that point or the payoff to most people. Forget Paula

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Speaker 1: Jones got a settlement of eight hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars and that he lost his law license and that

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Speaker 1: he was impeached. Everybody seemed to now maybe they would

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Speaker 1: maybe if it was at this time and I was

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Speaker 1: talking about Hillary's acceptance of millions and millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: from countries that abuse women, I mean really abuse women.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of law some of these countries, marital

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Speaker 1: rape is not a crime. Domestic violence in some countries

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Speaker 1: is not a crime. And almost all these countries under Sharia,

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Speaker 1: women are told by men how to dress, it, told

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Speaker 1: if they can travel by there by the men in

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Speaker 1: their life, they are told if they can even leave

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Speaker 1: the house, sometimes you need a male relative just to

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Speaker 1: leave a house. That can't drive a car, many many cases,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't vote, can't vote. And in other cases that

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Speaker 1: of course, the persecution and the killing of gaze and

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Speaker 1: lesbians just because of who they are. That happens. And

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Speaker 1: she's taken money from these countries, millions of dollars from

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Speaker 1: these countries. And gays and lesbians are being hung and

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Speaker 1: throwing off of buildings. Christians and Jews are persecuted with

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Speaker 1: regularity in these countries. You can't build a temple, you

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Speaker 1: can't build a church, you can't build the house of

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Speaker 1: worship if it doesn't fit their state religion. Unbelievable. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to some of our busy telephones here. Uh

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Speaker 1: as we say hi to Rusty. Rusty is in Little Falls,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. What's up, Rusty? How are you glad? You called?

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Speaker 1: Very good? Sir? I just wanted to say other things. Um,

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Speaker 1: such more should be innocence of proven guilty. Why is

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Speaker 1: it that? Why did he know he has to prove

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Speaker 1: his innocence? Um? Well, I think I think what people

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Speaker 1: are I think prudently when something is so outrageous and despicable,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure you would agree. If a woman claims

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Speaker 1: when she was fourteen and he's thirty two to and

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Speaker 1: he's sexually abusing her, that needs to be fully and

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Speaker 1: completely investigated. You agree with that, right, well investigated, yes,

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Speaker 1: but no. Part of the problem is if one of

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Speaker 1: these allegations is proven false, it's gonna sully the whole.

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Speaker 1: If all the other ones are true, the false one

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Speaker 1: is gonna sully all the other ones, and they get

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Speaker 1: harder for women who are really had in the aviews

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Speaker 1: like that, Well, we don't. We don't know in the

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Speaker 1: case of any of them yet. And I will tell

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Speaker 1: you though. I mean, now we're up to eight women

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Speaker 1: that are have complained against Judge Moore. I understand. But it's,

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Speaker 1: like I said, even one of them, it's untrue. It's gonna,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna that's what they're going to hear. I just

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Speaker 1: think that from my perspective is you know, and I

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Speaker 1: said this last night on TV. I lived in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I know the people Alabama, and they gave me a

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Speaker 1: warm embrace. They thought I'd talked funny when I was

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Speaker 1: down there and they were right, I do. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you it's it's you know, when you

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Speaker 1: grow up in New York, Um, I never had this attitude.

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Speaker 1: And I was just busy working and playing sports. You know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have any attitude. I lived in my own

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Speaker 1: little world like most of us do. And but when

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Speaker 1: you really as I've had the blessing and benefit of

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Speaker 1: being able to travel, you know, all around this country,

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Speaker 1: it really begin to get a there's a keen difference,

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Speaker 1: a discernible difference between Red State America, if you will,

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Speaker 1: all those counties that have painted Read in his last

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Speaker 1: election and the rest of the country. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, in New York you have the you have

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Speaker 1: the two coasts, you have San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got New York, New Jersey, you got

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Speaker 1: Illinois up there, and then the rest of this country

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Speaker 1: is you know, largely read and it's it's God faith,

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Speaker 1: family country. But not saying everybody's perfect, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's just I was just very impressed, honored

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Speaker 1: to call at my home for the time that I did,

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Speaker 1: honor to call Atlanta my home the time that I did.

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Speaker 1: Maynard Jackson invited me uh to the great city of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I went on my first day on the radio down there,

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Speaker 1: and I just said last night, you know, getting answers,

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Speaker 1: which is why I asked for answers, is crucial that

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Speaker 1: the Alabama people have the truth when they go to

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Speaker 1: the ballot box. To me, that's a political I think

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Speaker 1: the people need. You know, we've had so many October

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Speaker 1: surprises over the year. You you want to have the

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Speaker 1: time that people can truly honestly know in their heart

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Speaker 1: what's true and what's not true, and discern what is true.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the case al Franken, there's no ambiguity here.

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Speaker 1: We got a picture. We got a picture, and so

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Speaker 1: there's zero ambiguity with land Tweeden, and you know the

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Speaker 1: fact that there's more details it is. I remember when

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Speaker 1: she first showed it to me. This is years ago. Well, Hannity,

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Speaker 1: you never mentioned it to us because I was told not.

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Speaker 1: I was asked not to by her friend. She told

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Speaker 1: me this in confidence. And I'm friends with her and

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Speaker 1: I love her husband, and I may have a great family,

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Speaker 1: a wonder wonderful poul. Anyway, I appreciate the call eight

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Speaker 1: hundred nine four one Seawan is a number you want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. Chris is in Riverside, California. Chris,

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Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? Sir? Listening on k E.

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Speaker 1: I B what's happening? Um, Actually it's ma'am. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yes, ma'am, I apologize, that's okay. My my

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Speaker 1: husband prefers I go by Christina anyway. So, but and

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking my calls and honor to speak

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Speaker 1: with you. And I just wanted to address the tax

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Speaker 1: issue that we're now facing here in California with this

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Speaker 1: uh recent vote here in the Health of Representatives. And

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Speaker 1: I just say thank Aford Darryll, I said, and him

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Speaker 1: voting against it. I'm not in his district, but um,

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Speaker 1: I've lived in California all life and I've never once

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Speaker 1: voted for a tax hike. But because both parties are

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Speaker 1: super weak need on illegal immigration, we have millions here

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Speaker 1: that are voting with their stink takes ideas and it's

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Speaker 1: not they get they just being here and they get

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Speaker 1: a vote. And you know where's vice presidents from this

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Speaker 1: voter front business. I mean, we are eating they understand

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Speaker 1: is that supposed to be a panel looking in all

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Speaker 1: of this, And yes, you have to be a citizen

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Speaker 1: of the United States to supposedly vote in elections. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll go back to John Funds book, you know,

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Speaker 1: a number of years ago. There's always been it hasn't

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Speaker 1: been fixed. The idea that you know, I have to

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Speaker 1: go to the d n C convention and I have

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Speaker 1: to have a picture I d and uh just to

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Speaker 1: get into the d n C convention pictures and all that,

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Speaker 1: But you don't need a photo ided to vote never

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Speaker 1: made sense to me. R Leeann Tweeden, she was the

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Speaker 1: victim of this harassment of Al Franken. Is going to

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Speaker 1: join us next and uh, all right when we come

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Speaker 1: back Al Franken now an image of him grabbing Leon

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Speaker 1: Leeann tweet and have known forever. On this program, she

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Speaker 1: and mel Any Morgan both speak out exclusively coming up

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Speaker 1: on this program that's coming up next one Shawn is

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Speaker 1: a toll free telephone number if you want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program. We also have Jay Sekulo

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Speaker 1: is gonna stop by today as we talked about these

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Speaker 1: new developments. Yeah, the fix was in even worse than

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Speaker 1: we thought as it relates to Hillary Clinton and the

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Speaker 1: private email server will give you those details, Jonathan Gilliman,

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Speaker 1: Heraldo Rivera and much more straight ahead. All right, glad

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Speaker 1: you with us our to Sean Hannity Show. This just breaking,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Apparently now some media Democrats have set

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of uh, have a lot of integrity,

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Speaker 1: which is you know, after the discussion we had last night,

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Speaker 1: thirty years of the sparchman smearing slander of women that

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Speaker 1: because of politics supporting Bill Clinton, it didn't matter what

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Speaker 1: he did, didn't matter how many women there were, didn't

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Speaker 1: matter how serious the allegations were. Anyway, Slate magazine said,

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Speaker 1: there is no rational reason to doubt the truth of

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Speaker 1: Leanne Tweeden's accusations, no legitimate defense of Franken's actions, and

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Speaker 1: no ambiguity here at all. Al Franken should resign from

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Speaker 1: the Senate immediately. And we've been telling you these stories

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Speaker 1: and these breaking news from earlier today and joining us

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Speaker 1: now are the two people that are in fact been

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Speaker 1: victimized by Al Franken. We got the pictures, uh right

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Speaker 1: there on the Drudge Report. Right now, Leeann Tweeden, who's

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Speaker 1: a actress, radio host on KBC in Los Angeles, longtime

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Speaker 1: friend of mine and another long time friend, Melanie Morgan,

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Speaker 1: also a radio host in her own right, TV host

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Speaker 1: in her own right and now running Media Equalizer. Thank

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Speaker 1: you both for being with us, and uh, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time. Thank you, Leeann. Let me let me start

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Speaker 1: with you. I have known you for many, many years.

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Speaker 1: I remember where I was a very long time ago

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Speaker 1: when you showed me that picture. You asked me never

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Speaker 1: to tell anybody, and I did not. Um, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about this USO tour and what happened. Tell us, Well,

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, you know, I was embarking

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Speaker 1: on my ninth USO tour and that was my eighth

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Speaker 1: one to the Middle East, um, since the nine eleven attacks.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it was one of those things where, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, the troops have always been close to my heart,

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Speaker 1: you know that, and my my dad served in Vietnam,

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Speaker 1: and my husband is in the Air Force and he

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Speaker 1: still currently serves, and um, it was something close to

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Speaker 1: my heart. And you know, usually as the television host

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Speaker 1: and the radio host, I go and I m see

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Speaker 1: the shows, but usually I go when it's a variety

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Speaker 1: type show. I go with, you know, country music artist

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, and so i'm the MC typically

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Speaker 1: because as other people, you know, they sing and dance. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, how many did you go on lean,

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Speaker 1: I know you went on a bunch of them, sixteen

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Speaker 1: fourteen to the Middle East. Yeah, so this particular trip,

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Speaker 1: um Al Frankin was uh on on the roster with us,

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Speaker 1: and you know, so he doesn't really sing or dance either,

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Speaker 1: but he he came and so he ended up being

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Speaker 1: the co m C. And he had written a couple

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Speaker 1: of skits UM for himself to do throughout the show.

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Speaker 1: And I had never met him before, and then he

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Speaker 1: um actually came up to me when we met in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Before we went over there, and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, I've got a UM I've got a

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Speaker 1: script that I wrote if you want to play them, mom,

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Speaker 1: you know, we can do a skit together at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the show for the troops. And I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like fun. Yeah sure or whatever. He said,

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Speaker 1: all right, when I when I get to a printer,

638
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: I'll print it out and then we can go the

639
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: lines or whatever. And we can do it um for

640
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: the shows. So when we get over there a few

641
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: days in before we do our very first show and

642
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: to wait, he uh said, um, here's our script. And

643
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I saw the script and you know it's it's the

644
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: typical for the boy is. It's kind of full of

645
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: sexual innuindo and kind of playing. Um. Okay, I'm doing

646
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: a live radio hit right now, no worries, don't tell

647
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: whoever it is. I said, Hi, yeah, I'm trying to

648
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: do a live radio so what you saw it? And

649
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here in a chair and they're asked me

650
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: to put the phone down for one second. Is that okay? Yeah,

651
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: go ahead, I take your time. Well, we'll go to

652
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: our Fred Melanie here for a minute. Uh, Melanie, have

653
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 1: you talked about this issue with Al Franken before? Yes,

654
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: I have, Sean, and thanks for having me on your program.

655
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: You know, I was really surprised to how to hear

656
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: Leanne's story today. I was, in fact, doing a live

657
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: television interview when the house asked me if I had

658
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: heard about the breaking story involving Leanne at KBC, and

659
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: I said no, and I didn't know her, but I

660
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: shared my story immediately and as I did um contemporaneously.

661
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: I knew Al Franken all because I was invited as

662
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: a guest on the Bill Maher show. It was August

663
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: nineteen of two thousand. I had no I didn't have

664
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: a lot of experience at that time doing live television,

665
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: so I was a little bit surprised when Mr Frankin

666
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: and I started engaging in a discussion over some budget numbers.

667
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: It was a relatively mundane point that I was trying

668
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: to make, and he challenged me, and then I came

669
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: back over the top and challenged him, but he wouldn't

670
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: let it go. He kept arguing with me over a

671
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: really insignificant little thing. So at that point, you know,

672
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: the show was over and I went back to the

673
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: green room, where he followed me. He stalked back into

674
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: the green room and said, I'm going to prove to

675
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: you that I'm right and that you're wrong, and this

676
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: went on on, and then he followed me out the

677
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: door of the green room, and finally, you know, I

678
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: got in my car and I left, and at that point, Um,

679
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: I was a little bit ticked off about it, but

680
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: I let it goes. The next day he calls my house,

681
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: got my whole phone number from the show producer and

682
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: started calling me. And this went on for three days

683
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: in a very aggressive, very intimidating, a stocking manner, and finally, finally,

684
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: um I threatened to call the police and make an

685
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: official police report if he did not leave me alone,

686
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: which at that point seemed to stop him. But I

687
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: have to tell you it was a very frightening experience

688
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: and one that I hope I never have to repeat.

689
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: That is that is chilling. And uh, lean tweeting is

690
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: back with a lean you're there, I'm here. Sorry, they're

691
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: cutting me in early here. They told me one thirty

692
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: is my hit time, and now it's like, okay, oh

693
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: they can I understand. So why don't we pick up

694
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: where you left off? By the way, And I know

695
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: your husband you do love the military, by the way.

696
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: And and Melanie, I know raised his money for the

697
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: troops every year. I've I've tried to donate often to

698
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: her charity. And you went on the sixteen USO tours.

699
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: I know your husband a wonderful guy. I remember when

700
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: you had your first baby, was the first baby, you know,

701
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: four and then the second ones too, I know. And

702
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: congratulations on that too, and please please tell your your

703
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: other half I said, hi, um, thank you, And look,

704
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: just so I know how hard this has been on.

705
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: What a tough day this has been for you. Walk

706
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: us through from the point where the skit, which is

707
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: where you left off you were just supposed to be

708
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: the m C. He writes a skit and in the

709
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: skit he puts in a kissing scene between you and him. Yeah, totally.

710
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: And you know, in my mind, it's like, okay, we're

711
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: just gonna do this skit on stage. He's going to

712
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: come in for the kiss and I'm just gonna turn

713
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: my head or I'll just put my hand over his

714
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: mouth and it'll be part of the scene. It'll be funny, right,

715
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: you know, We're just going to play it off. And

716
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: we're backstage, we're it's literally a few minutes before the

717
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: first show, and he's like, we need to rehearse the

718
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: scene because we're we're alone, right, We're in this little

719
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: makeshift backstage area, and I'm thinking, yeah, no, I just

720
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: ignore him. I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, we don't. And

721
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: then he's like, no, we really need to rehearse the scene.

722
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, ot, it's not snl. We don't need to

723
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: rehearse the scene, you know, And he just keeps badgering me,

724
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, this guy is relentless. I'm like, al,

725
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: just go to the right. I'll tilt my head to

726
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: the right, you know, just just trying to be funny

727
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: and make light of it. And he just continues, and

728
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: he goes on and on, and finally I'm like, just

729
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: to get him off, just to get him off me,

730
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking, okay, fine, we're gonna rehearse just

731
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: to kiss, all right. It's like he just was so

732
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: focused on that one thing. And so finally I'm just like, okay,

733
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: let's rehearse the kiss, okay. And I'm just yea, turn

734
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: my head whatever. And he comes in and he just

735
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: literally puts his hand on the back of my neck

736
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: and he comes in and he just does it so fast,

737
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: and he just puts his mouth on my mouth and

738
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: he fits his tongue in my mouth, and it happened

739
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: so fast on that it's like, you know, when you're

740
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: not ready for something. And I call him, I call

741
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: him Fishlets for this day because his mouth was just

742
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: wet and it was so disgusted. Come off with my hands,

743
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if you ever do that to me again,

744
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: and I just I was like, I had my hands

745
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: were clenched in the fist and I was like I

746
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: was ready to punch him. I was so angry, and

747
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: I just turned around and I walked out of air

748
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: and I just was looking for a bathroom because I

749
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: just wanted to wash my mouth out. And I was

750
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: just mad, you know. I was so angry. And by

751
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: the way, I had to go on stage and act

752
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: for five you know, in five minutes to go on

753
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: and pretend like you know, you know, I mean, it's

754
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: just let me ask you this. And I saw you

755
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: said one minute, I'm gonna have to go on. What

756
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: I want to ask quickly about the About the picture though,

757
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: that is so disgusting to me. And I remember when

758
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: I asked you about it and and you asked me

759
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: never to say it. I never did because we've been

760
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: friends for way too long a period of time. Um,

761
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: what do you think should happen? I know they were

762
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: trying to pressure you in the press conference. Um, does

763
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: something like that warrant? Does he belong in the Senate?

764
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: And what do you do if there's not a picture

765
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: in other words, you have a picture and then it

766
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: becomes he said, She said, how do we sort through

767
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: that lead? Um, you know I don't either, Yeah, what

768
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean? You know what I mean? Like in your case,

769
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: you look at that picture. Everybody's disgusted and there's so

770
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: much going on. What do you do if it's if

771
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: you don't know for sure? What do you advise people? Um?

772
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: You know, you know what. I'm sorry. They're talking to

773
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: my other ear so on it's hard for me to

774
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: hear you. Yeah, I'm sorry, you can I I'll just

775
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: let you answer that last question and you can go. Okay. Yeah,

776
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: you know. I'm not calling for him to step down.

777
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: That's not why I came out with this. I just

778
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: want other people. If you know, there might be other

779
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: girls that he did this too. And obviously you have

780
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: one on the phone right now that's talking with me,

781
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: and there might be others. That girl called into my

782
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: radio station today that I need to return a call

783
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: that said this happened to her from him. I'll let

784
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: you go. I know you I know you're being pulled. Listen,

785
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: lean Uh, I'm going back all the best to uh,

786
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: your husband, your family, the kids for me, Okay, thank you. Uh,

787
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: and Melanie, let me go back to your story. It's um,

788
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: he's being pulled in a hundred directions here and UM,

789
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't look obviously, it's nothing like what

790
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: you guys went through. And but one day I went

791
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: down in the green room with the Fox News Channel

792
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: and Barry Farber, who you know is one of the

793
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: great radio pioneers, and I went to see him. This

794
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: was in the Hannity and Colmbs days. And I'm trying

795
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with Barry Farber and Al Franken

796
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: is in there screaming at me, and I'm like, all

797
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to you. I'm here to

798
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: see my friend. Um. Anyway, it's finally gets to the

799
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: point I can't even have it, and I just said,

800
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: all right, Verry, good to see my friend. God bless you.

801
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: Give him a hug. And I walked out and he's

802
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: screaming at me, following me, and the halls of Fox

803
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: are filled with security guys and literally he would not stop.

804
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: They called the code and then security literally surrounded this guy.

805
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: I've told this story many many times on air before. Uh.

806
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: It sounds like he was harassing you on that this

807
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: man is unhinged. I've known it for a long time.

808
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: When he's talking you like this, did you think about

809
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: going to the police. I did. I was terrified. I

810
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: really thought there's something wrong with this man. And I

811
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: told the story at the time on the Lee Rodgers

812
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: and Melanie Morgan show at KSO and San Francisco, because

813
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: I thought the only way to really protect myself is

814
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: to tell this story out loud, because I was afraid.

815
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: I was terrified that he was going to come to

816
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco and I don't I don't know what. His

817
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: behavior was so erratic and so obsessive that it truly

818
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: frightened me. And I remember um telling you this story

819
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: as well, and you told me your story about being

820
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: surrounded and yelled at by him, and I had forgotten

821
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: all about it until I you reminded me. I forgot

822
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and I remembered now because yeah, it's look,

823
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: it was a long time ago. And you know, uh,

824
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't care Al Franken's you know, just to me,

825
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: it's just a jerk. But you know, when I want to,

826
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I want you to stay there when we come out.

827
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: I want to ask Melanie Morgan a question because it

828
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: dovetails into you know, you tell your story. We've got

829
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: the picture of Leanne. There's when there's no ambiguity, it's easy.

830
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the hard cases when

831
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: somebody makes an allegation or number of people make allegations,

832
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: and then the person denies it. We'll get to that,

833
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Melanie Morgan. J Secular at the bottom of the hour one.

834
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: All right, as we continue Sean Hannity Show, toll Free,

835
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: it's eight one sewn you want to be a part

836
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: of the program. Jay Secular at the bottom of the hour. Uh,

837
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: as we've been telling you. Al Franken now accused of

838
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: sexual molow station on a USO tour of Lee and tweeting.

839
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: There is a picture of Leanne's sleeping. She's been on

840
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: all these USO tours and Al Franken they're grabbing her

841
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: breasts and then she talked about unwanted touching and groping

842
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: and grabbing and kissing and shoving his tongue down a throat,

843
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: which is unbelievable. Melanie Morgan had been stalked by Al

844
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: Franken after a politically incorrect show. He is I know

845
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: him from my own experiences is unhinged. Um, Melanie, What

846
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: what do people to think when we don't have a picture,

847
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: like in the case of Leeann, How do you how

848
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: do people sort through and get to the truth. That

849
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: is a great question, and it's one and as a

850
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: journalist of over thirty years experience I wrestle with every

851
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: single day. You know, you have to take these instances

852
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: and these testimonials by different women, and it's usually women,

853
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: although in Hollywood, as we've learned, sometimes it's men. And

854
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: you have to look at the whole context in which

855
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: these allegations are made, you know. I wanted to give

856
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: Judge Roy Moore the benefit of the doubt because it

857
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: was forty years ago that he was accused of doing

858
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: some inappropriate things. I think that the people of Alabama

859
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: are definitely going to make a judgment on what they

860
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: think is true and what is not true. I can

861
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: only speak us to the truth that I experienced, which

862
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: was a very aggressive and almost obsessive behavior that Senator

863
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: Al Franken displayed towards me when he was a writer

864
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: and a performer on Politically Incorrect with Mitt Bill Maher.

865
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: So I know my truth, and I think that all

866
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: the rest of us have to to give it our

867
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: best judgment, read carefully, do our research, and come to

868
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: our own conclusions. Melanie, one thing in my in my

869
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: interview with him, in my demand that he answered questions,

870
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: was that the right thing to do? Because I feel

871
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: the people of Alabama deserve to know the truth before

872
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: they go vote. H Yes, the answer is yes. You know,

873
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: at first I wasn't sure what was what to think

874
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: about that, But then I realized saw him that you

875
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: were simply doing your job, which is to ask very

876
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: tough questions, and you did. Some of the answer as

877
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: he gave were a little less clear than other answers.

878
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: And now he has come back and answered most of

879
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: those questions that you've asked. And I talked to the

880
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: people of Alabama. Now, well, I gotta I gotta run.

881
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: Tell people about your military charity quick. Okay. It's called

882
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: Move America Forward. We send care packages to our troops overseas.

883
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Move America Forward dot org. Thanks mel You know President

884
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Trump has tried to flip the script and now says

885
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: the Justice Department should be investigating you. And this way

886
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: we learned the Attorney General Sessions is considering a special

887
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: counsel to probe the Uranium One deal and alleged confidence

888
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: with the Glint Foundation. What's your reaction to this? You know,

889
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: I regret deeply that this appears to be uh, the

890
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: politicization of the Justice Department and our justice system. Um.

891
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: This Uranium One story has been debunked countless times by

892
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: members of the press, by independent experts. Uh. It is

893
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: nothing but a you know, a false charge that the

894
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: Trump administration is trying to drum up in order to

895
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: avoid attention being directed at them. I mean, even Trade Gaudy,

896
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: somebody who's hardly a fan of mine, uh said, uh

897
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: that you know, there doesn't seem to be the basis

898
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: for a special counsel. Of course there isn't. But if

899
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: I try to take myself out of it, which you know,

900
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard because it's personally offensive that they

901
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: would do this, But taking myself out of it. This

902
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: is such an abusive power and it goes right at

903
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: the rule of law. So you have a lot of

904
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: experience with special counsels. I mean, how concerned are you

905
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: about a special counsel investigating you? I mean, is this

906
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: something that you're preparing for. I'm not concerned because I

907
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: know that there's no basis to it. I regret if

908
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, they do do it, because it will be

909
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: uh touch a a disastrous step into politicizing the justice system.

910
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: Uh And at the end of the day, you know,

911
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: nothing will come of it, but it will, you know,

912
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: cause a lot of terrible consequences that we might live

913
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: with for a really long time. Politicize the Justice Department. Well,

914
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: maybe that would be with your husband meeting on a

915
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: tarmac with Loretta Lynch, or Loretta Lynch instructing Jim Comey,

916
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: the FBI director, don't call it an investigation, call it

917
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: a matter, or Jim Comey and and others apparently deciding

918
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: for themselves that they're going to exonerate her and start

919
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: writing that letter before the investigation really even started. Now

920
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: we find out that shortly before last year's election, the

921
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe he wrote an email on

922
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: his official government account stating that Hillary Clinton the email

923
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: probe had been given special status. According to documents released now,

924
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: and his October email to press officials in the FBI

925
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: said the probe was under the control of a small

926
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: group of high ranking people at the FBI's headquarters in Washington,

927
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: and as I now, as I now know, the decision

928
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: was made to investigate it at a headquarters with a

929
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: small team, he wrote in the email, And he said

930
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: he had no input when the Clinton email investigation started

931
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: in the summer while he was serving as the assistant

932
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: director in charge of the FBI's Washington office. Wow, politicizing

933
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: the Justice Department pretty amazing, bold statement by somebody that's

934
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: been able to skirt justice in the rule of law,

935
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: and there seems to be that we don't have equal

936
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: justice under the law. Jase Secular is the chief council

937
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: for the American Center for Law and Justice, also Counsel

938
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: to the President. Jay, what is your reaction on Hillary?

939
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: Just said, well, look, I mean she she doesn't like

940
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: the fact that there may be an inquiry into a

941
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: transaction that the American people are still trying to get

942
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: their head around, and that is uranium one. Now, what's

943
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: interesting with uranium one is, and you've reported on this

944
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: and discussed this, Shaan, is that you had these ongoing

945
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: FBI investigation which ended up in resulting ultimately four years later,

946
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: in prosecutions on uranium one. But the concern now is

947
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: how in the world was this signed off on in

948
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: light of what are apparent conflicts of interest and that

949
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: would be in parent conflicts of interests between the then

950
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, former president the Rossa Tom the company

951
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: that end up buying uranium one. So there's a lot

952
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: of questions that have to be at really answered here

953
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: because this is just now coming to light. And then

954
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: you take the special status issue on the investigation on

955
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: the email server situation, and what is exactly special status?

956
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, what does that even mean? Is there a

957
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: definition within the Department of Justice manual called special status

958
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: investigations And I'm just not I don't know of one,

959
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: and and I'm not I've never I've not memorized the

960
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: entire d o J manual, but I will tell you

961
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: that something like a special status investigation is handled pursuing

962
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: to this regulation and that regulation. I just don't see it,

963
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: so that that whole Comy situation. And I've I've said

964
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: this on on on your broadcast, I've said it on

965
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: my home broadcast. I mean the idea that if I

966
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: don't give you a Republican, Democrat, libertarian independent, here's the

967
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: fact what James Comey did by intervening in that election

968
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: was not only unprecedent and violated the Department of Justice

969
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: on guidelines. And the fact that then whether then he

970
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: exonerates and he reopens the investigation, he by steps the

971
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: Attorney General the United States because he felt James Comy

972
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: felt she was tainted. Now, granted, she should have refused herself.

973
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: You talk about a refusal, I mean she had a

974
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: meeting with the former president of the United States who

975
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: wife was under investigation. But take it a step further.

976
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: Why did he not go to the Deputy Attorney General

977
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: or the Associate Attorney General of the United States if

978
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: he thought that Lauretta Lynch was compromised? Why did he

979
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: do this on his own? So that needs to be

980
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: investigating on The Inspector General said they're gonna have an

981
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: answer to that in their view, uh in in the spring.

982
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: But would that be something that the FBI or a

983
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: special counsel should be looking at. I would think so

984
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: that that's separate and apart from the fact that James

985
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: Comey leaked versations she's had with the President of United

986
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: States the third party's for publication purposes. See, if you

987
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: have this special status that they're talking about here, and

988
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: this small team that they're talking about here, Well, equal

989
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: justice under the law I think would dictate that everybody

990
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: has to have the same status treated the same way,

991
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: and in reality we know that that's not the case.

992
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, when when the Attorney General of the United

993
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: States at the time, and Loretta Lynch is the Attorney General,

994
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: and she's telling Comey, the FBI director, not to call

995
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: it an investigation. Uh, that is in and of itself

996
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: not only inappropriate, but it reeks of politics in the

997
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: justice system. And then when she meets with Bill Clinton

998
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: for forty five minute, they all know what the rules are,

999
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: and they tried to cover it up. They changed their name,

1000
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: as I understand it as in terms of hoping that

1001
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: nobody would know was them that was there, and and

1002
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: that got revealed. And then of course now we've got

1003
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: the whole exoneration and moving the term the legal standard

1004
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: gross negligence to dream carelessness that that had to have

1005
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: been done purposely. Yeah, although extreme carelessness is gross negligence,

1006
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you're looking at it. I mean,

1007
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about a slight of hand. I mean the

1008
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: statute itself, when talks about gross negligence. To look up

1009
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: the term gross negligence and legal dictionaries and means extreme carelessness.

1010
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: But that's how they thought they were playing cute here,

1011
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: including James COMMI. Yeah, they thought they were playing cute.

1012
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: Now here's the question. A lot of us have been waiting,

1013
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: and I never thought it was the right call for

1014
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions to recuse himself as the Attorney general. But

1015
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: he did. My sources are telling me that he did

1016
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: not recuse himself from Uranium one or the dossier issue,

1017
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: or you know, he just recused himself from that particular matter.

1018
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: And then it was Rosenstein who made the appointment. And

1019
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: then you you know, now we get back into you know,

1020
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: whether or not there's a conflict. You know, are you

1021
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: worried that that Vladimir Putin the bad actor? He is

1022
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: the hostile regime of Russia? That they are that the

1023
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: FBI and the Department of Justice had to know. They

1024
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: had an FBI informant that had discovered a network inside

1025
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: the United States obviously working on behalf of Putin, that

1026
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: was using bribery, extortion, kickbacks, money laundering, racketeering. And they

1027
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: knew this in two thousand and nine, This FBI informant

1028
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: was with them over four years and now he has documents, tapes,

1029
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: firsthand experience and emails and so on and so forth. Um,

1030
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: is there any explanation that you can think of why

1031
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: anybody would ever sign off on uranium one? And why

1032
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: why they didn't stop this when they knew a year

1033
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: and a half before. Now I'd like to know if

1034
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: they actually I mean, this is part of them. We've

1035
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: done this in a Freedom of Information Act request that

1036
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: we've put in at the American Serf Lawjustice to the

1037
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: State Department and the other agency's involved with that scipious committee.

1038
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: It was the committee that we're determined these foreign investments.

1039
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: Did they actually meet? Did they actually where they briefed

1040
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: on the situation where they given a status report on

1041
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: ongoing criminal investigations? Was that did that issue raised to

1042
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: the level? In other words, did it get to the

1043
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: Attorney General Eric Holder at that time? I didn't reach it,

1044
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: And and that's the Those are unknowns. So that has

1045
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: to be answered because this is a big enough d

1046
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: where you've got to know the answer to that. So again,

1047
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: none of us know where it ends up going. But

1048
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: the investigators, I think certainly have a prima facia right

1049
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: to look at it. Um how that will take, what

1050
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: what form that will actually take? You know what we'll see.

1051
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean what thede Did they go with an independent council?

1052
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Do they or special council? Do they think they can

1053
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: do it internally? I think they're the I think the

1054
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: potential to do it internally is very limited here. I

1055
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: mean at because of other people that would be involved

1056
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: in it and how that plays out, and what they're

1057
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: involved with and some of it, by the way, even

1058
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Speaker 1: Sean that would be a conflict adventure is not because

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Speaker 1: they did something wrong, but because they prosecuted the uranium one.

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Speaker 1: Not the uranium one, the they prosecuted the Russian spies

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Speaker 1: and those that were engaged in that. So if that

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Speaker 1: lawyer prosecuted it, Kenny, now who's now in the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice, can he do this independently? So that's where

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Speaker 1: you look at the actual code, the actual regulations at

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00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and make the determination that this

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Speaker 1: is one of those situations where special counsel would be necessary.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of Jeff Sessions as answer the

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Speaker 1: other day, You're I mean, you're a smart lawyer. You

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00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: understand this as well as anybody. This has been your

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00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: business for forty years years. Well, look, I mean I

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Speaker 1: would my answer would have been, I think what he

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Speaker 1: said about it's going through the process, I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to to determine whether you need

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Speaker 1: a special counsel. You need to review the process as

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00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: to doesn't meet the criteria for a special counsel. I

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: think personally it does. That's my personal view speaking as

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Speaker 1: as Jay Seculo here, Um, that's not the position of

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the position of the Department of

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: Justice ultimately is going to be on that, but I

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Speaker 1: would think that this is a time where special counsel

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00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: would be needed because it's just the appearance of conflicts

1082
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: of interest here are so great that I think to

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00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: to to really handle this in an appropriate way, especially

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: and you know Seawan Berry has an on special counsels.

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Speaker 1: You know that I don't like. I like the fact

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Speaker 1: that we have a Department of Justice that can that's

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to do this with Lady Justice mindfolded,

1088
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: but there are times when it can't, and then this

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: looks like it's one of those times. You can already

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01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: see what Hillary strategy is oh this was all debunked.

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01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh this is old. I mean it's the same old strategy.

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna you know, if in fact all that

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: we have been investigating is now it turns out to

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01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: be true. Um, and we know crimes were committed on

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: the email server issue. That's it. It's it's a fact.

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: At this point, we know she funded Fusion GPS for

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Speaker 1: Russian lines propaganda misinformation to influence an election. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: know also through Donna Brazilci funded money through the same lawyer,

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Speaker 1: through the d n C that she was really in

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Speaker 1: charge of. So we know a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: have happened to here. And then the question is that

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Speaker 1: what's the nature in which that investigation moved. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you lead it, laid it out very effectively, and the

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Speaker 1: question is how does that information go out, How is

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Speaker 1: that processed? How is that investigated? But there's something you

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: said the other night when I was on your television broadcast,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about this, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: the it's getting a little bit lost in all this.

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Speaker 1: If in fact FISA warrants Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants

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Speaker 1: were issued by a FISA court on that fake dust

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: e a that raises a very very serious criminal law

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Speaker 1: issue procedurally and constitutionally. Stay right there. J Secular American

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01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: Center for Law and Justice, their chief Council Council to

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Speaker 1: the President. One Shawn is a told free tellable number

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Speaker 1: more with J Secular. On the other side, as you know,

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity on his program has been very critical of

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Speaker 1: the uranium one deal the President, saying with regard to Russia,

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Speaker 1: that's the real story and all of this. What would

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Speaker 1: you say to those critics, I would say, it's the

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Speaker 1: same bologna they've been peddling for years, and there's been

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Speaker 1: no no credible evidence by anyone. In fact, it's been

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: debunked repeatedly and will continue to be debunked. But here's

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Speaker 1: what they're doing, and really I have to give them credit.

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Speaker 1: You know, Trump and his allies, including Fox News, are

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01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: really experts at distraction and diversion. So the closer the

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Speaker 1: investigation about real Russian ties between Trump associates and real Russians,

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Speaker 1: as we've heard Jeff Sessions finally admit to h in

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Speaker 1: his testimony the other day. Right as we continue, J

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Speaker 1: Suculo is with us from the American Center for Law Injustice.

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Speaker 1: He is their chief counsel. And I want to get

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01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: back to the issue of what the consequences Hillary Clinton

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: would be facing here are we were? Is there any

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01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: statute of limitations issues coming up regarding any of the

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Speaker 1: issues involved in the dossier Uranium one or the email

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Speaker 1: server scandal that you know of, Well, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: and when you've got a situation where you're talking about

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Speaker 1: statue limitations, you you gotta look at what statue of

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Speaker 1: limitations because crim crimes, a lot of most crimes have

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Speaker 1: a statue of limitation, but normally it's six years in

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Speaker 1: the criminal context. So it would not appear that there

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01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: would be a statue of limitation issue that has been

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01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: elevated here. In other words, could could a lawyer argued

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Speaker 1: that there's a statute violation that the statual limitation I've

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01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: I've speculated on the Maniford indictment that there since there

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Speaker 1: was not really a tax evasion charges, was that because

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01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: the statue of limitations had expired? Um, So look, in

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01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: any case, statue limitations come up, and I don't see

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Speaker 1: that as a hum a basis upon which an investigation

1149
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: would not proceed here. Okay, so that's important. Now the

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01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: question is as Jeff's Sessions as answer, I can't answer that.

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01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: I can't answer that. He can't tell us if there's

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: an investigation. Yeah, well, look, um, General Sessions. Um is

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01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: someone I've worked with, as you know shown for a

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01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: lot of years when he was in the United States Senate,

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Speaker 1: and I have a lot of respect for him. I

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01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: think he's in a has had a very difficult time,

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: no question, had a very difficult time just two days

1158
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 1: ago in his testimony. And this to me, if Jeff

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: Sessions the nature he knows what his nature of his

1160
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: recusal is, the question is, does it recuse? I can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, you think Eric Holden would

1162
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: have ever recused himself from any of this, No, Um.

1163
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: But look, Loretta Lynch did not recuse herself when she

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Speaker 1: met with President Clinton on the Tarmact. She never actually

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: refused herself. Remember, she'll take the investigation recommendations of her

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Speaker 1: senior people. And then we know that James Colemey wrote

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Speaker 1: the answer to that, you know, three months before he

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Speaker 1: interviewed the witnesses and in fact grant an immunity to

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Speaker 1: witnesses and still written had written his declination letter before.

1170
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Speaker 1: So I think the reality of what we have here, Sean,

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Speaker 1: is that I am not sure at this point where

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General sees himself in these investigations and what

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: role he'll play. I'd be speculating because it's not just

1174
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: not clear for me what he can and cannot do

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01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: based on his own view of things. All right, frustrating

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Speaker 1: as that is, it is all right, Jay Sekulo, thanks

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Speaker 1: for being with us eight hundred nine one, Seawan told

1178
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Speaker 1: free telephone number. You want to be a part of

1179
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: the program, uh news round up in information overload coming

1180
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Speaker 1: up later and much more straight ahead. On the Sean

1181
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Speaker 1: Hannity Show, see as a baby, Rob was routinely beaten

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Speaker 1: by his father's car. On a typical night, Carl would

1183
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: slip into Rob's bed, roll him over, swap him down,

1184
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: and say something like, I'm thinking about hiring more Amsterdam

1185
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: to play Buddy Surrell. What do you think? Well. The

1186
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: success of The Dick Van Dyke Show changed things dramatically.

1187
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 1: Carl started inviting many of his famous friends to son

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: rehets the line and the line leading up to the kiss.

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Speaker 1: We rehearse the line and I'm coming towards him, and

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01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: he comes up and he grabs me, and he puts

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01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: his hand behind my head, and he aggressively comes in

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01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: and he matches his mouth up against mine and he

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01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: sticks his tongue in my mouth, and as it happens,

1194
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: it happens so fast, and he puts his tongue in

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Speaker 1: my mouth, and his mouth is just wet and slimy.

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Speaker 1: And to this day, I call him fish lips, okay,

1197
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: because it's disgusting. He says, I respect women. I don't

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: respect man who don't The fact that my own actions

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01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: have given people a good read and to doubt that

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Speaker 1: makes me feel a shame. Um. He's also asked for

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Speaker 1: as as miss McConnell an investigation. So one, do you

1202
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: accept his apology? And to what do you think should

1203
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: happen after an investigation? I mean, yeah, there's no reason

1204
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: why I shouldn't accept his apology, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if that's sure, Um, I I wasn't Um, I didn't

1206
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: come out to I wasn't looking for anything, you know

1207
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? And people are like, well, what were

1208
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: you expecting from him? What did you expect from him?

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01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: If he wanted to apologize great. I mean, look, this

1210
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: has happened. This has been going on for this happened

1211
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Speaker 1: eleven years ago. I saw him a couple of years

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Speaker 1: after that with my husband at a us O gala,

1213
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: and he walked up to me and found me in

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Speaker 1: a room and said hello to me, and I was

1215
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: very cold to him, and I turned right. He found

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01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: me and you know, with my back to him and

1217
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: said hello, and I was like, hi, Al, and I

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: turned and walked away from him. My husband even said

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: to me last night, He's like, as I recall, Leanne,

1220
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Speaker 1: you left me standing there with Al because you said

1221
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: hello and then turned and turned your back on him

1222
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: and walked away and left me standing there with him.

1223
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Speaker 1: And I'm like yeah, because I wasn't gonna talk to him,

1224
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: you know. So my husband said hello out but no,

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Speaker 1: he had a chance to apologize to me then because

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Speaker 1: he knew he knew exactly what he did to me then,

1227
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Speaker 1: and that picture was out there, so he had a

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: chance to apologize to me. So I wasn't holding my

1229
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: breath would have been long dead by now by then,

1230
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Speaker 1: you know, So um, the apology, sure, I accepted, Yes,

1231
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean people make mistakes, and of course he knew

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Speaker 1: he made a mistake, So yes, I do accept that apology. Um,

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Speaker 1: the ethics investigation. If that's what Mitch McConnell wants to do, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's that's on them. I'm not calling for that. If

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Speaker 1: that's what he wants to do, Okay, that's that's up

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Speaker 1: to them. I'm not demanding that. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: demanding any of that, all right. That, of course, was

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Speaker 1: Leeann Tweeden who released a picture today and talk about

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Speaker 1: Senator al Franken and his unwanted groping and kissing and uh,

1240
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: of course uh an image when they were on a

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01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: USO tour while Leeann Tweeten was sleeping, Al Frankin going

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01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: up and looking looks like he's grabbing her chest and

1243
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: laughing about it. She's sleeping. What it looks like, you know,

1244
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: in in somewhere in a rack. If I'm Lee and

1245
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: tweet and I've known for many many years, I've known

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01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: about this picture for many years. And I know her

1247
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: and I know her husband, and uh, there's no nicer

1248
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: person in the entire world. And she went into great

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: detail today as to why she felt it was time

1250
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,839
Speaker 1: to explain that, and then Melanie Morgan's same story anyway,

1251
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: here to discuss all of this. Uh. Now, we've got

1252
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Speaker 1: charges of Sylvester Stallone accused of sexually assaulting a sixteen

1253
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: year old fan, and police report reveals a girl claimed

1254
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Speaker 1: the star made him give made her give him and

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01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: his bodyguard oral sex and threatened they would beat her

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Speaker 1: head in if she ever told. Joining us now is

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gillum, host of the Experts. He's got an upcoming book,

1258
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: Sheep No More for All the rivera Fox News legal

1259
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: analyst or although let's just get your your general take

1260
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: on all of these things that are now, you know,

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Speaker 1: cascading upon society in a way, and all these developments

1262
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Speaker 1: and all these revelations. You know, Sean, it's a great question,

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Speaker 1: and I've really been, uh, I've been pondering it seriously

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Speaker 1: all day today because there's you know, at what point

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Speaker 1: does it become grotesque and offensive, if not criminal and

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Speaker 1: career threatening or career ending, And at what point is

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Speaker 1: it flirting and normal kind of uh interaction between boys

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Speaker 1: and girls and men and women, you know, when it's

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Speaker 1: not a superior subordinate situation, when it's not someone who's

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Speaker 1: overpowering in a physical I mean, I'm not sure uh

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Speaker 1: at society is going to have to revamp and redraw

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Speaker 1: and redefine these lines. I think that set the Franken

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Speaker 1: is uh, you know, aside from being profoundly embarrassed and

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Speaker 1: ashamed as the wealth should be. Uh. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's it's what, but you know, but

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Speaker 1: but there are some cases where we have facts. In

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Speaker 1: this case, you have a picture and the pictures grotesque.

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Speaker 1: In other cases you have uh, an accuser and you

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Speaker 1: have somebody denying it on the other end, and it

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Speaker 1: becomes like in the case of Weinstein, in the case

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Speaker 1: of Kevin space I mean, you know, they're they're all

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Speaker 1: headed out. Oh sorry, I'm going to rehab um. So

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Speaker 1: that's you'll never see Kevin Spacey again. Sylvester Stallone. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if the circumstances or how long ago it

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Speaker 1: was with the age of the person at the time

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Speaker 1: of the alleged defense. But these these charges now, and

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Speaker 1: you were really good about it last night, and you've

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Speaker 1: been spot on showing in terms of your moral outrage

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Speaker 1: regardless of the ideology of political philosophy or political party

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Speaker 1: of the alleged defender. And I think that we've got

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Speaker 1: to stick to that. We've gotta we've got to be

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Speaker 1: party blind, ideology and political politics blind. We've got to

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Speaker 1: lay out some rules. Now I've got I've got three daughters,

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Speaker 1: you've got one, you know. I'm society is shaking out

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Speaker 1: now from the old century. It's taken seventeen years since

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Speaker 1: the twentieth century, but we're finally getting over it. Now.

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Speaker 1: We've got to draw some real rules. What's your Johnathan

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Speaker 1: I said last night. I went through a long history

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Speaker 1: and some of it is political, although I think it

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Speaker 1: should be a political But this is important because the

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Speaker 1: length too with which the left in this country went

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Speaker 1: to support Bill Clinton, and all of the smearing and

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Speaker 1: slandering and besmirchment that went on even up to and

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Speaker 1: including last year's election. We're not We're not necessarily going

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Speaker 1: back to the nineties here. These allegations were made and systematically,

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Speaker 1: the bimbo eruptions were dealt with, and these women were slandered, abused.

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Speaker 1: Nobody in the media, you know, said anything nice about them.

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Speaker 1: And Uh, in that sense, I think there is a

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Speaker 1: certain degree culpability on their part. Listen to UH. When

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Speaker 1: I talk about the leftists in this country. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about people like Carraldo who you know him, and

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Speaker 1: Rick Onger and other people that are friends of mine

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Speaker 1: that are liberal, that are actual thinkers and look for

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Speaker 1: effective solutions. When I talk about leftists, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: people to the far left. I'm talking about activists. And

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Speaker 1: when we look at Bill Clinton and the way that

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Speaker 1: that was handled when all that information was coming out,

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Speaker 1: that almost set a precedence for the way these things

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Speaker 1: would eventually unfold because when you add to that the

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Speaker 1: activists on the left that are constantly going absolutely crazy

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Speaker 1: about political correctness, even far past uh, the stuff that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about now this was It's interesting because the

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Speaker 1: left is responsible for all this stuff coming out, and

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Speaker 1: so many people from Hollywood, so many people from politics,

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Speaker 1: they're all suffering from this now because and it's interesting

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Speaker 1: at the same time because it is it is something

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Speaker 1: that we have to talk about on an even playing scales.

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Speaker 1: Not you're like, you're now that it's out in the open.

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Speaker 1: It's now you're gonna have liberals and conservatives trying to

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Speaker 1: trying to to tiptoe around this. They have to say

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Speaker 1: what this is. In the cases when it's a sexual

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Speaker 1: assault or sometime a type of promiscuous behavior. The fact

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Speaker 1: is all this stuff is coming out and it's a

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Speaker 1: snowball effect. And like Haralda was saying, there, we have

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Speaker 1: to start looking at this almost at different levels. Was

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Speaker 1: this mischievous behavior and joking around that was inappropriate? Was

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Speaker 1: it something that there are gonna be times? We don't

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Speaker 1: know too absolutely. But when I look and hear about

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Speaker 1: from a criminal standpoint, an investigator standpoint, when I hear

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Speaker 1: about Harvey Weinstein, when I hear about Kevin Spacey, when

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Speaker 1: I hear what you just said about um about Sylvester Slone,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at criminal offenses, not something that you go

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Speaker 1: get rehabilitated for. I agree, but sometimes you have the

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Speaker 1: statue of limitations. We gotta take a break. We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more with Jonathan Gilham and Horaldo Rivera that's

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Speaker 1: coming up on the other side. All right, as we continue,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gillham Horaldo Rivera are with us. Let me play

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Speaker 1: and this is really offensive. I mean, we had Rob

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Speaker 1: Reyner earlier that we played, but you know, this is

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Speaker 1: Al Franken joking about rape and just listen to what

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Speaker 1: he says. Donald Trump claiming the things he said on

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Speaker 1: that bus for locker room talk? Do you have any

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Speaker 1: thoughts about that? I've been in a lot of locker rooms. Um,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I belonged with health Club in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: I think you can tell ye and h our locker

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Speaker 1: room banter is stuff like is Trump crazy? And uh so,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what locker room he may work out

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Speaker 1: with Roger L's and would be a different libary. But

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Speaker 1: see as a bait be Rob was routinely beaten by

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Speaker 1: his father, Carl. On a typical night, Carl would slip

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Speaker 1: into Rob's bed, roll him over, swap him down, and

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Speaker 1: say something like, I'm thinking about hiring Morey Amsterdam to

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Speaker 1: play Buddy Surrell. What do you think? Well, the success

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Speaker 1: of The Dick Van Dyke Show changed things dramatically. Carl

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Speaker 1: started inviting many of his famous friends to son, what

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Speaker 1: did your reaction to that? You know my feeling, And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked me that. As I listened, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking that there there is an aspect of of

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Speaker 1: locker room humor, whether Franklin wants it, cop to it

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Speaker 1: or not. That a year ago, two years ago, let's say,

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Speaker 1: two years ago before we went through our own where

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Speaker 1: Roger Rael's trauma at Fox News two years ago, people

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Speaker 1: would have been uh, you know, elbowing the other one

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Speaker 1: and saying, oh, that's funny and not and not thinking

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Speaker 1: of the person making the joke as a particularly predatory monster.

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Speaker 1: Now and and you and I had the debate about this,

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Speaker 1: I said that right now, if Anita Hill made those

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Speaker 1: same charges against Clarence Thomas, he would never have been

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Speaker 1: confirmed to the Supreme Court of the United States if

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Speaker 1: that were today. I think the times have changed dramatically.

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Speaker 1: What we have to be cautious of. And I think

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Speaker 1: that this is where you are leading in terms of

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Speaker 1: sharp prudence is let's see where the charge goes. Now,

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 1: a lot of relationship and unsuccessful. A lot of people

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: break up, a lot of marriages end in divorce, a

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Speaker 1: lot of relationships. Uh, this this great bitterness the property involved.

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Speaker 1: This there's I'm sorry you cannot. Although I want every

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Speaker 1: accusation to be true or truthful, that's not the real world.

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Speaker 1: Now in the frank In case, he has admitted it. Now,

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Speaker 1: what does the Senate do about it? I am positive,

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Speaker 1: having investigated Congress enough, particularly during the Clinton impeachment time,

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Speaker 1: that there are plenty of people, some of whom professed

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Speaker 1: to be uh Christian righteous, uh straight shooting, loyal to

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Speaker 1: their wives, who are on the side going along with

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Speaker 1: a whore's and uh you know what, cat calling teenagers

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Speaker 1: and you know, brushing up against senate interns. You know

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Speaker 1: that maybe this is the shakeout, Maybe this is the

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Speaker 1: time with the real world comes to grips with what's

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Speaker 1: going on. Jonathan, Well, also, you know when we look

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Speaker 1: at the way that we confront these issues. First off,

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Speaker 1: I want to give you props on the the the

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Speaker 1: interview that you did with Judge Moore. I thought that

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Speaker 1: that was a very firm and probably one of the

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Speaker 1: best interviews I've ever heard where somebody's literally questioning somebody.

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Speaker 1: You asked the right questions. That's the way we need

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Speaker 1: to ask these questions. But here's another thing that I

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Speaker 1: want to say, and I don't by and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I've taken a lot of heat for doing what was

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Speaker 1: the right thing to do. You got didn't get Jake

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Speaker 1: tappertelling you it was a good thing. So it's not

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Speaker 1: that it's not that, it's just one I don't rush

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Speaker 1: to judgment and not rushing to judgment. It made me

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Speaker 1: be right in so many cases where others are wrong,

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Speaker 1: starting with Richard jewel And and the Zimmerman, Trey von

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Speaker 1: Case Ferguson, hands up, don't shoot right that Trump can win,

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Speaker 1: right about Ducal across those three kids lives were ruined

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Speaker 1: right about Freddie Gray because I don't rush to judgment.

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Speaker 1: And then then if you don't rush the judgment, boy

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Speaker 1: you're excoriated. Well, you know something, we have to wait

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Speaker 1: for more facts. And then, as I said last night,

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Speaker 1: I got Judge more to answer again. And now the

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Speaker 1: people Alabama, they're smart. I have faith in them. Well,

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Speaker 1: as Haraldo would tell you, you you know, he's done investigations.

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Speaker 1: When you you have to allow time for the evidence

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Speaker 1: to come in, and you have to allow the evidence

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Speaker 1: to kind of lead you. You You can't make let your

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Speaker 1: assumptions lead you. But what I was getting at there

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Speaker 1: a second ago is that we I really want women

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01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: to be empowered and if somebody does something, I like

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Speaker 1: the way Leone tweeting handled this, the way she went

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Speaker 1: up to him and she didn't or when he came

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Speaker 1: up to her, she didn't want to have anything to

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Speaker 1: do with Alt Frankin. I want women to be empowered,

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Speaker 1: and if somebody does something inappropriate, I want them to

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Speaker 1: be able to say, uh, stop that it's inappropriate, getaway

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Speaker 1: from me. And then if it if it's something like

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Speaker 1: rape or molestation, I want women to be able to say,

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Speaker 1: this is what happened and not fear the retribution. Agreed,

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Speaker 1: And you know, and I understand why some women wait

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Speaker 1: because it is so traumatic and it's such an act

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Speaker 1: of a vile lation. It's violence. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: leave it there, Jonathan, good to see you. Rather you

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Speaker 1: don't need to come in the studio more off and

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Speaker 1: we need to see you. Uh, thank you, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Eight hundred nine for one. Shawn

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Speaker 1: told free telephone number when we come back, Wide Open

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Speaker 1: Telephones eight nine. Shan is on number. As we were

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Speaker 1: along Sean Hannity show Down till the top of the hour. Wow,

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Speaker 1: do you think these news cycles will ever slow down?

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Speaker 1: Certainly doesn't look like it. By the way, I've got

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Speaker 1: a question in there for Ethan. So you weren't here

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01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: in the studio yesterday and they said, oh no, Ethan

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Speaker 1: has a hundred and temperature and he's too sick to

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Speaker 1: go to work. And oh he needed the day off.

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe them. Why don't you believe them?

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Speaker 1: I was actually sick. I really, I was at the doctor.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want. I don't want to actually,

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Speaker 1: uh describe how I was sick, because you would not

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Speaker 1: have appreciated if I was here on Monday, really, because

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Speaker 1: I would have gotten sick being around you. I could

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Speaker 1: not speak on Monday. You couldn't. I sounded like a

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Speaker 1: little girl, or I couldn't speak. Linda told you, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, where's Ethan? Why isn't Ethan here? And of

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Speaker 1: course you got huh. I don't feel And we know

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Speaker 1: she hates germs and she's a germophobe. I'm not a germophobe.

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Speaker 1: I just figured nobody wants to get sick right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that tomorrow morning. Do you want me

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Speaker 1: to call on your food right now? Is that what

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Speaker 1: you want? I'm not going near you, but I just

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Speaker 1: think that you took two days off too, as you

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Speaker 1: wanted a couple of days off. I don't think you

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01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: were sick at all. I would never lie to you.

1473
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm just teasing, all right. I hope you feel better

1474
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to our busy telephones here as

1475
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: we say hi to Sean and Florida. Shaan, Hi, how

1476
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: are you? And welcome to the Shawan Hannity Show. Hi Son,

1477
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: thank you for taking my call. Um. I just like

1478
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: to weigh in on a couple of things. Um. First

1479
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: of all, Judge Roy Moore, I think it's at the

1480
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: victim of a political hatchet job. What if I told

1481
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: you that right before the election of President Trump, I

1482
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: had a friend who knew someone in the Democratic Party

1483
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: who said that about twelve women were going to come

1484
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: out against President Trump and say that they were sexually

1485
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: harassed or whatever. And he said, Trump is going down.

1486
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: I know, and this is what's going to happen. I

1487
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: think the same thing is happening here because the timing

1488
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: is just way, way too convenient. And why did these

1489
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:21,839
Speaker 1: women come forward when Roy Moore was running against Luther Strange. No, instead,

1490
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: it's right before the election. I'm not buying it. Secondly,

1491
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: Sessions needs to go. I hear what you're saying. I understand.

1492
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: You know, you always get these October surprises. You never

1493
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 1: know what they are, you don't know what to believe.

1494
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: It throws every election into chaos. I mean, it wasn't

1495
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: an accident. The week before George W. Bush was running

1496
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: against Al Gore. Oh, by the way, he got a

1497
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: d We got a d U. I what he was

1498
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: in college? Oh? Sorry, we we didn't know until today.

1499
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. And to derail you know, in

1500
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: the case of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, hold on

1501
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 1: a second, we don't want him. He's too conservative. We

1502
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: don't want him on the court. And we saw what

1503
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: happened with Herman Kane, and and people are rightly suspicious

1504
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: that this stuff comes out. But on the other hand,

1505
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: when when, when things are so sire, you got to

1506
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: look into it. By the way, how great was Donald

1507
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Trump getting the u c l a Players out of

1508
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: jail in China? Now I spoke to somebody that knows

1509
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So the president hears about this. He's

1510
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: sitting next to the president of China, says, hey, can

1511
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: you do me? Can you let me a favor? I

1512
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: need a favor. They do me a favor. Can you

1513
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: let these guys out if you so desire? Yes, boo, imagine,

1514
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: I really do. I can only imagine. By the way,

1515
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: thank god, these players will let out. You know, they

1516
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: thank President Trump for helping them out. You know, in China,

1517
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: that's like ten years in prison. Why would they go

1518
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: to China and still sunglasses. It's so stupid. You want

1519
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: to pair of sunglasses, I'll buy you a pair. I mean,

1520
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Anyway, So we're glad they're out. I'm just

1521
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: glad the President got them out of there. That would

1522
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: not have ended well in a lot of different ways.

1523
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: All Right, to our busy phones as we say hi

1524
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: to Larry Is in Wisconsin. Larry, how are you. I'm great, John,

1525
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my claw. Yes, sir, what's going on?

1526
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm really troubled by this Judge Moore thing. It's uh,

1527
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: particularly uh when I heard his denials to your very

1528
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: appointed questions, some of them, particularly the first one, the

1529
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: first accuser, very specific, and how he denied it, very

1530
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: flat out denied that anything had happened. The other ones.

1531
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:41,520
Speaker 1: He starts getting squishy, he starts playing lawyer and parsing

1532
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: his words, and it was really troublesome. And I as

1533
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: much as I want the guy to have a fair

1534
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: shake and think that he's really getting run down the

1535
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: pike here by political forces, it bothers me that he

1536
01:24:55,760 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: can't man up uh to to take reuh one of

1537
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 1: these edits seas instead of giving these fuzzy denials. You know,

1538
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: it's sometimes, and this has been my experience and interviewing

1539
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: people for thirty years, sometimes there are people that do

1540
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 1: not know how to answer questions and I'm just look,

1541
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: I'm just being very blunt here. And you know, when

1542
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: this other accuser, you know, came out and he said

1543
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: he didn't know or look, I'm looking at a lawsuit

1544
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: that has that or basically I guess it's. Alabama dot

1545
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: Com is the name of the company, Alabama Media Group.

1546
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: They operate as a l dot com And they now

1547
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: have been put on no notice by the Foundation of

1548
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Moral Law that that Judge Moore and his wife are

1549
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: about to file a lawsuit against them. And they talked

1550
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: about the yearbook uh thing that they're they're not claiming

1551
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't his signature. You know, how do we possibly

1552
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: know this at this point in time. I mean I

1553
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: looked at I looked at it myself. I'm not a

1554
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: handwriting expert. I don't know those things. And it's it's

1555
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: it's but you know, the hard thing for everybody. And

1556
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: this gets so difficult, is we know Shenanigans. What do

1557
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: you think we call it in October surprise? For call

1558
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: it in October surprise? Because it is designed to create

1559
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: doubt in people's minds, It is designed to shift the votes.

1560
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: It is you know, politics is a mean, down, disgusting,

1561
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: dirty sport. It is a blood sport. And this is

1562
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: what people do. And you know, I think my experience

1563
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: has taught me well not to rush to judgment. But

1564
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know, if he says he

1565
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: doesn't know the girl and then something comes out that

1566
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: looks like his handwriting, and then I'm saying, okay, did

1567
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: you do that? I think the people that vote have

1568
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: a right to a very swift, truthful, honest answer because

1569
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: it's too these are too serious of the allegations. You know.

1570
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: The thing that's always been important to me is, you know,

1571
01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: I want the people of Alabama to have an informed decision.

1572
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: I think they deserve that. You know, some people got

1573
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: mad at me for asking the questions that came out,

1574
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: but you have to ask these questions. It's just this

1575
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: is too serious. This is something that should transcend politics.

1576
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: And when I said, you know, you've got to answer.

1577
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: And even after the interview, I thought of every question

1578
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: I could possibly think of, because the people of Alabama

1579
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: deserved to know that. Um, we got a thorough, complete

1580
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: answer from him. There's other charges now, but you know,

1581
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: somebody who's lived in Alabama. I just at this point,

1582
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: you've got to put it in their hands and they

1583
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: are gonna make that determination themselves, as it should be,

1584
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: not Washington, not some news anchor, not somebody that's a

1585
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: talk show host, but the people of Alabama. The more information,

1586
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: the better for them. And whatever it takes to get

1587
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: to the truth is what matters in this thing. And

1588
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: and that's all I've done. Look at what President Trump

1589
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: went through in his election, look at what he has

1590
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: dealt with every day since he's been elected. It why

1591
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: any good person ever wants to run for office? Yeah,

1592
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: why anybody wants to be in the public eye today

1593
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: is at your out of your mind. You know, you

1594
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: think that there's such a great you know position, Well,

1595
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: you're a public figure, people ask for your autograph. It's

1596
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: it's not what people seem to think that it is. Um.

1597
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: But with that said, if you love your country, if

1598
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: you see what I see, that the country is on

1599
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: the wrong track. If you see people needlessly suffering because

1600
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: of government oppression, you know you want to do all

1601
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: you can. And no matter what I did and accomplished

1602
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: in my entire life, it will never begin to match

1603
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: the service of one guy that put himself in harm's

1604
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: way and and was taking bullets for his country. Now

1605
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: I take verbal bullets in a sense, you know, I

1606
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: get verbal verbal combat. But it's not getting shot at

1607
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 1: in the battlefield. It's not risking your life, giving your life,

1608
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: giving your limbs, living with disfigurement. Those are the that's

1609
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: why military are the real heroes. But there's but you know,

1610
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: if they can do all of that, at at least

1611
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: we can do is be called bad names, which happens

1612
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: to me every day, and it's uh, it's the right

1613
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 1: thing to do. This is a great country, and this

1614
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: great country is on the wrong path, and I want

1615
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: to get this country on the right path. On paper.

1616
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: Anybody that's a billionaire like Donald Trump, he doesn't need

1617
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: to work, he doesn't need he doesn't need this aggravation

1618
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: every day, but he did it for this country. Everyone

1619
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: questions everyone else's motives. You still gotta live it. You

1620
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 1: still gotta work, You still gotta plow ahead. You know,

1621
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: you gotta grind through it, and life is a grind.

1622
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Nothing in this life is easy. I can tell you

1623
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: that I don't care who you are, what you do.

1624
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: Life is, as the Road Less Traveled says, difficult. Life

1625
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: is hard. It is an undeniable truth. And once you

1626
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: recognize that truth, it's a divine paradox in a lot

1627
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: of ways. Once you once you recognize that simple, basic,

1628
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: fundamental truth, life actually gets easier because you're not expecting

1629
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: everything to go well every day. I actually expect to

1630
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: get hit on any given day. Nothing shocks me, nothing

1631
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: surprises me, nothing anymore, and not a whole lot phases

1632
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: me in terms of me taking stuff personally. And in

1633
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: that sense, I guess I'm uniquely qualified to take the

1634
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: beat downs that I get on a regular basis, and

1635
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't care, and I fight back. And you know,

1636
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: when I said in the beginning that you know you

1637
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: have to take something like this seriously, you have to

1638
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 1: because the charges are so severe. Under speaking as a father,

1639
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I have a sixteen year old daughter, and it's it's

1640
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: frightening because we know evil exists, we know these predators exist.

1641
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: We know what happens out in Hollywood on the casting couch.

1642
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, I've actually one of my friends, one of

1643
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: my best friends, has a daughter that is enormously talented

1644
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: in terms of her ability to sing an act, and she,

1645
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: since she was little, has been the lead role in

1646
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: every place she's ever auditioned for. And you know, at

1647
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 1: times the girl wanted to go out to Hollywood get

1648
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: an agent. I'm like, don't you dare take that girl.

1649
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: Don't let her out of your sight. You should when

1650
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: if you heard this girl singing, you'd be stunned. If

1651
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: you watched her perform, you be stunned. She's amazing. You

1652
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, right? And uh, I'm like, no,

1653
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: I told my about Keith. You no, don't do it.

1654
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: This is what's gonna happen. This is I am telling you.

1655
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose control quickly. Everyone's gonna get caught up

1656
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: in fame. Why do all these child actors have get

1657
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: so messed up? You know, it's a little ridiculous. For

1658
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,759
Speaker 1: a guy that is seventy radio stations around the country

1659
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: and on national TV every night, it sounds ridiculous for

1660
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,560
Speaker 1: me to say to you fame is not healthy, but

1661
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: it's just a fact. I see it up close every

1662
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: single day. And I think there's really only two mitigating

1663
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: factors too, at least being half normal, that there's an

1664
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: assumption here I'm half normal. And I think you have

1665
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: to There has to be humility in you, and that

1666
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 1: you believe deeply in God. You just have to. It

1667
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be church. You just have to know

1668
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: there's something greater than yourself. Anything you have that may represent,

1669
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: any talent is God given. And the second thing I

1670
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: think that is crucial to all of that is don't

1671
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: buy into it. You just you can't believe all. You

1672
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: can't believe the good of the bad. Anyways, it's easier

1673
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: said than done. Uh, let's say hi to Mela's in Brooklyn,

1674
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: New York. What's up, Mel? How are you glad you called? Hey? Sean?

1675
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: How are you? I want to talk about uranium one

1676
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: and the background of uranium one, which isn't really being

1677
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 1: spoken in the in the media at all. In the

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Speaker 1: early nine nineties, Congress passed the Non Luger Properative Threat

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Speaker 1: Reduction Act and funded it at over three fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year, and the purpose of that act was

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Speaker 1: to remove and safeguard nuclear bomb grade material from the

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Speaker 1: former Soviet Union. Now, this went on from the nineties

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Speaker 1: all the way through two thousand's. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that happened, and it really should be a movie, is

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01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: a thing called Project Sapphire, where in the late summer

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Speaker 1: of we flew three C five Galaxy transports into zixtand

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Speaker 1: to remove half a ton of bomb grade uranium. And

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Speaker 1: we did this with technicians from Lawrence Livermore Labs out

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Speaker 1: in California. The only thing standing between that bomb grade

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Speaker 1: uranium reaching terrorists a rogue space was a padlocked door.

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Speaker 1: The former Soviet Union fell. The whole security apparatus around

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Speaker 1: the nuclear facilities, and the whole nuclear industry in the

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01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:29,520
Speaker 1: Soviet Union fell apart. Now, after spending billions of taxpayer

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Speaker 1: money to remove uranium and bomb grade plutonium from the

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Speaker 1: former Soviet Union, the Uranium One deal gives it back

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Speaker 1: to Putin, which is ridiculous. It's it's it's theft of

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Speaker 1: government money, of of taxpayer money, and it's also a

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Speaker 1: proliferation treaty that they had with Putin. It allows them

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Speaker 1: to have the uranium that technicians hundreds of technicians and analyst.

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Speaker 1: Defense analysts believe that the former Soviet Union could not

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01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: safeguard and it gives sit back to them. And this

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Speaker 1: is something that puts the whole world that miss and

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Speaker 1: Obama and Hillary Clinton re at the center of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, I gotta let it go there. Look, I

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Speaker 1: I just don't know they undid every Yeah, if we

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Speaker 1: have to import uranium, let me just put it this way.

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Speaker 1: You have to import uranium, then I gotta tell you something.

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Speaker 1: You have no business letting anybody outside entity in any way, shape,

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Speaker 1: matter of form control your your uranium, especially a bad

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Speaker 1: actor like Putin and a hostile regime like Rush. All right,

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Speaker 1: tonight the charges Al Franken accused of sexual molestation on

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Speaker 1: a U s O tour, well of LeAnn Tweeden and

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Speaker 1: her story. Also tonight, we have major breaking news as

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Speaker 1: it relates to uranium one and of course, uh the

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Speaker 1: dossier of the Clinton dossier. We have John Solomon, Sarah Carter,

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Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer, We got Sebastian Gorka, Tommy larn and, Jessica

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Speaker 1: tar Love, Greg jareded and so much more. That's all

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Speaker 1: coming up. Don't miss tonight's opening monologue, Al Franken, I

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Speaker 1: hope you're listening at nine Eastern tonight, Hannity Fox,