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Speaker 1: I am Gregg Saucemen, Frank what's going on? What's going
Speaker 1: on here? Only hear myself on one side of here,
Speaker 1: I hear you. Oh good, whatever I've figured out during
Speaker 1: the break, doing alright? Wednesday Baseball talk, Greg. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. I was texting you late last night,
Speaker 1: trying to get ready for some fantasy baseball talk. Very excited.
Speaker 1: Speaking Fantasy baseball. Shout out has to go to RBFF
Speaker 1: Michael Floria. Oh absolutely, he had the no I think
Speaker 1: we should give ourselves a shout out. Collected one third
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, of course we won the award two thirds.
Speaker 1: What do you mean we we won the award. We
Speaker 1: won two thirds of the award. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He wrote the Blake Snell article when he was with us,
Speaker 1: Greg that was That means under the tutelage of Bffy,
Speaker 1: with the emotional support of his BFF, we were there
Speaker 1: to cheer him on in the background while he's looking
Speaker 1: up his Blake Snell heat maps. Mostly I was hitting
Speaker 1: on him at the time by Curry, but now my
Speaker 1: hatred drove him to write the Fantasy Baseball Article of
Speaker 1: the Year for in the f s W A Mike
Speaker 1: Florial f W A award winner. Absolute shout out to Mikey. Rats.
Speaker 1: That's freaking awesome. Man. May twenty nineteen be the year? Frank?
Speaker 1: Probably not? Why not? Man? Yearn to nail it this year.
Speaker 1: I feel good about it. All right, let's figure some
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta start writing in order to the
Speaker 1: year right, because we know the BFC ain't getting any love. No,
Speaker 1: probably not, Floria. So good job, Mikey. We love it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you want to see who
Speaker 1: Florio is projecting. Is this year's Blake Snell? Checking his
Speaker 1: patreon right now. I believe he has an article up
Speaker 1: and he's got a couple of potential candidates that be
Speaker 1: this year's Blake's now one guy in particular, so check
Speaker 1: it out. Mike Flora was tweeted out he's got a patreon.
Speaker 1: I don't know we're allowed to advertise that, but I'm
Speaker 1: doing anyway because f I don't care. Check out my
Speaker 1: Flora's patreon for that. Cool. Definitely, what's up? You had
Speaker 1: you sleep last night? It's a great last night, Frank.
Speaker 1: It was my best sleep in weeks to be Hodesday,
Speaker 1: because Judy didn't have a coughing attack. Wasn't we trying
Speaker 1: to sleep? Which is what happened. He went to bed
Speaker 1: last night. She was very kind and went to bed
Speaker 1: like an hour before me, so by the time I
Speaker 1: went to bed, she would be sleeping so she wouldn't
Speaker 1: be coughing. And I went to bed and I still
Speaker 1: like a baby. He was awesome. Now is do you
Speaker 1: be a light sleeper? Heavy sleeper? She's a very very
Speaker 1: heavy sleeper, so she can sleep through a hurricane. A
Speaker 1: very light very very light. I wake up for anything.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Yeah, he who wakes up the middle
Speaker 1: of night. She tries to the middle of night, in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, you're sleeping. It's tough. Man's
Speaker 1: that a because she's a big time and it's rough man.
Speaker 1: So so for we did like we'll do like the
Speaker 1: cuddle before we go, and I'll wake up and there's
Speaker 1: like there's an inch on my side of the bed
Speaker 1: and there's like three ft on her a choke. So
Speaker 1: I actually feel like I get pretty mad at in
Speaker 1: the middle of night, like get get on my side
Speaker 1: of bed. I get pretty Oh my god, do you
Speaker 1: get animated? Oh my god? So for me, like Junie,
Speaker 1: I O cuddle right, and then basically she goes hard way,
Speaker 1: I go my way. That's that's that's the best way
Speaker 1: to do it. And that's it. Sometimes she feels covered,
Speaker 1: so I just like angrily grabbed them. That's about it.
Speaker 1: She we have our side the dumb button. We need that.
Speaker 1: Voters got to put a bleeping in on the man. Frankie, Sorry,
Speaker 1: man got a little ndmated last night. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I had to be here a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 1: Do you think that I wanted to get out of
Speaker 1: bed because we were traveling to work together today as well.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to be here, Like, so I'm
Speaker 1: reading about that Tobias Harris trade. I didn't ask you
Speaker 1: to hear at the crack of dawn. I know, but
Speaker 1: I'm still just not a morning game. It's about like
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes earlier than normal. It wasn't like I didn't
Speaker 1: have to do anything crazy. And you said, you mean
Speaker 1: say had no problem. Yeah, that was awesome. Okay, all
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about stings that are have changed places today. Great,
Speaker 1: so three in particular. So basically Frank and I were
Speaker 1: going back and forth last night, but what we want?
Speaker 1: What the hell do we talk about? Right, So we're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out correct and we give up with
Speaker 1: loads of ideas that we're gonna really go over over
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, Like we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: your first round breakdown because we haven't been talked about
Speaker 1: that yet, right, Like how the first round is going
Speaker 1: this year? Yeah, I'm probably gonna do that without you.
Speaker 1: That's fine, Like we aren't doing a little bit when
Speaker 1: we get back, like we as the show, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do like a first round breakdown, and then we're in
Speaker 1: the second round, and then of course as we get
Speaker 1: deeper to February, we'll both have our rankings and we'll
Speaker 1: kind of talk about all these guys. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about guys that have had good luck, guys that have
Speaker 1: had bad luck, guys that our hype guys, and guys
Speaker 1: that should be hype guys, young players. We have a
Speaker 1: whole list of stuff we want to get into, and
Speaker 1: now is the time to get into it. And I'm
Speaker 1: super super excited about it. The more baseball research I've done,
Speaker 1: like I kind of want to do best ball. I
Speaker 1: never do best ball. So it's like I'm watching Frank
Speaker 1: to his second one of the year and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, your team is awesome, and I'm feeling it.
Speaker 1: I just had my fifth round pick. Would you like
Speaker 1: to know who it is? Else? I had the sixth
Speaker 1: pick in the draft out of twelve people. Fan tracks.
Speaker 1: They run these best ball leagues. They have different kind
Speaker 1: of payout structures. They have ones where if you finish
Speaker 1: in the top half of the league, you basically just
Speaker 1: double your money. So if it's a ten dollar league,
Speaker 1: you'll win twenty dollars, very similar to a cash game
Speaker 1: kind of mindset. And then they also have these leagues
Speaker 1: where it's where it's twelve teams and I believe it's
Speaker 1: a first and second place prize where first, you know,
Speaker 1: if you spend ten dollars for the league, you win
Speaker 1: like a hundred, and in second place you'll you'll get
Speaker 1: like double your money back, like twenty bucks or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. So they have these really cool best ball
Speaker 1: leagues over on fan tracks. I had the sixth overall
Speaker 1: pick in this draft. For me, having aces that are
Speaker 1: going to give you solid ennings, Greg is very very
Speaker 1: important in bestball leagues. So with the sixth pick, I
Speaker 1: wanted the next Yerson. He want one pick before me.
Speaker 1: I had a dilemma in my hands whether to take.
Speaker 1: You know, I was debating between Mets and Red Sox,
Speaker 1: so never a good decision, but I was debating Jacob Degraham,
Speaker 1: Chris Sale, and j D. Martinez. I ended up taking
Speaker 1: Jacob Degraham just because I feel like the endings are
Speaker 1: a little bit safer than Chris Sale. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: little bit unfair because if you look at Chris Sale
Speaker 1: every year before last year, he's well over two innings. Well,
Speaker 1: last year it was one nine. Let's worry about the
Speaker 1: wirey frame a little bit. I think they're very close.
Speaker 1: In Rhodo. I would take Chris Sale because on a
Speaker 1: per game, on a purse start basis, I do think
Speaker 1: he's better than Jacob Degraham. But I trust Jacob Degram
Speaker 1: a little bit more for the ending. So I took
Speaker 1: him in the first round, came back, took Jean Carlos
Speaker 1: Stanton in the second round, because you do need five
Speaker 1: outfielders to start in these leagues. In the third round
Speaker 1: it took Blake's Nell. Michael Flordials breaks Blake's nell. The
Speaker 1: fourth round it took Hapy Bias because, uh, the second
Speaker 1: based position is a little bit shallow this year. And
Speaker 1: then the fifth round came back and it took our
Speaker 1: guy greg A. You Henny oh Suarez. This year it
Speaker 1: might be a little bit early, but I thought there
Speaker 1: was kind of a drop off after him, so I
Speaker 1: wanted either him or Rendn. I wanted one of those
Speaker 1: guys as my third. Fair enough. Now, Frankie's actually been
Speaker 1: very much on pitching early this year. He's more on
Speaker 1: it than I remember you being the last couple of
Speaker 1: years saying I gotta get a picture. I gotta get
Speaker 1: a picture, I gotta get a picture. This isn't something
Speaker 1: I remember that you were so headstrong about in the past,
Speaker 1: because in my opinion, there are a lot of second
Speaker 1: round hitters that have been first round talent in the
Speaker 1: past couple of years. So if you can anchor your staff,
Speaker 1: we we know that. You know, there are less than
Speaker 1: less starting pitchers going two endings pitched every single season.
Speaker 1: Last year had thirteen of them, the least in MLB history.
Speaker 1: So you know, those anchors, those workhorse starting pitchers, those
Speaker 1: guys who are gonna give you endings, give you really
Speaker 1: good endings too, there are few and far between. So
Speaker 1: I really like, you know, I think the cut off
Speaker 1: for me is really Verlander. I want to have one
Speaker 1: of those, you know, top seven eight starting pitchers, whether
Speaker 1: it's you know, Sales Serz or de gram Clueber Verlanders
Speaker 1: in that mix. I want one of those guys, and
Speaker 1: then you know, maybe I'll wait till a third or
Speaker 1: fourth round to get my second starting pitcher. But really,
Speaker 1: I think that you can execute that plan this year
Speaker 1: more than ever before, because again in the second round,
Speaker 1: of drafts this season. There are more prominent hitters, more
Speaker 1: first round talent type hitters going in the second round
Speaker 1: this year than ever before. Like you're seeing guys, I
Speaker 1: got John Carlos Stanton in the second round. You're getting
Speaker 1: him in the second You're getting Aaron Judge in the
Speaker 1: second round. You're getting out to of it. You're getting
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper and Machado because they haven't signed. You're getting
Speaker 1: Paul Goldschmidt because he got off to a slow start
Speaker 1: last year and he's changed teams. He's no longer in
Speaker 1: Chase Field. He's now playing in St. Louis with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So there are there are a lot of first round
Speaker 1: caliber talent offensive players that you can get in the
Speaker 1: second round. So I really like the idea this year
Speaker 1: of starting with a starting pitcher. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: like in Cement, it's not in Stone. I don't have
Speaker 1: to do that. I think, you know, there are plenty
Speaker 1: different ways to win in fantasy baseball. You'd have to
Speaker 1: hit on some of those mid round starting pitcher picks.
Speaker 1: We'll do a show about those guys too, the hype guys,
Speaker 1: you know, Flaherty and Jamison Tyne and we'll talk about today.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are on those guys, and if
Speaker 1: you hit on those guys, you can still win in
Speaker 1: fantasy baseball. But there's the reason why you got to
Speaker 1: use the first round pick on like a Scherzer or
Speaker 1: a Sale or or a de Gram. Those guys are
Speaker 1: hard to find. Yeah, I mean listen. I'll point out
Speaker 1: to my in my league last year, where I drafted
Speaker 1: in the like the eleventh and twelve, twelve and thirteen
Speaker 1: around that, I draft the Corvin and Snell, and I'll
Speaker 1: point to that that's why I won. But my first
Speaker 1: round pick would take him to Gram, which is certainly
Speaker 1: helpful to that. And I was able to make a
Speaker 1: trade and swinger Carlos Carrasco as well. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Rasco. You're getting in the third fourth
Speaker 1: round this year. That's awesome value. And so I am
Speaker 1: somebody that is completely with you. And I have been
Speaker 1: long on this track of really buying the pitching. Admittedly,
Speaker 1: I'm a points league guy. I'm ahead to head guy
Speaker 1: rather than Rhodo. I have not found my sweet spot
Speaker 1: with Rhodo, which is why I have struggled in the past. Um,
Speaker 1: this year, and I'm hoping this year you have an
Speaker 1: auction team together. We have to run. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: about auxin strategy because we've already found, like I think,
Speaker 1: two players that we kind of liked together that we
Speaker 1: might be targeting. That that was what was cool. That
Speaker 1: what I liked about that those two guys we looked
Speaker 1: at completely separately, like you had dumped off the page.
Speaker 1: You had found them, and I was doing some research.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can reveal them to and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about them, you know, as the baseball as the fantasy
Speaker 1: baseball prep season goes on. Tommy Fam. So when I
Speaker 1: first started looking at baseball, and I was kind of
Speaker 1: just looking at some of the things that I happened
Speaker 1: to look at, and I was like, Frank, like, my crazy.
Speaker 1: He is like Tommy Fam awesome again, you know, like
Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, I am so hit on
Speaker 1: Tommy Family. All right, that's awesome. And then about a
Speaker 1: week or two ago, I was looking at I don't
Speaker 1: remember how I got there, but I was looking doing
Speaker 1: a deep dive and I kind of stubbled about run
Speaker 1: and Odor and I said to Frank, am I crazy
Speaker 1: If I like runda odo he goes, Honestly, I haven't
Speaker 1: even looked at second basement yet he comes in this
Speaker 1: Morning's like, dude, I am in a routette odor like, see,
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like there. And it was just
Speaker 1: two guys again we stumbled upon completely completely separately, and
Speaker 1: we both really like that. That's just obviously middle round guys,
Speaker 1: guys that I don't think are hype guys at the moment,
Speaker 1: that aren't costing you all that much. And we'll talk
Speaker 1: more and we'll talk to you. Of course, I've got
Speaker 1: some of the superstars that we prefer in the order
Speaker 1: that we want to do, the early round guys in
Speaker 1: best Frank just mentioned there's a lot of really talented
Speaker 1: hitters in that second Rather, we're gonna jump upon that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna jump upon. We both really like the pictures
Speaker 1: early and when it was auction draft strategy and excited
Speaker 1: to talk to when you talk to ian Con next week,
Speaker 1: where I'm sure you'll have a lot of auction draft
Speaker 1: strategy there, because maybe we should need lessons from ian
Speaker 1: Con who continues to dominate our auction and do well
Speaker 1: um destroyed our league last year year. Maybe a lot
Speaker 1: of mid you know, mid value guys. So maybe we
Speaker 1: get some strategy advice from him. Yeah, you know, Ian Cohn,
Speaker 1: fan of the program, friend of the program. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he'll be down to come on. I know specifically next
Speaker 1: week he wants to talk a lot about his dynasty
Speaker 1: and rankings. He also talk to himout auction strategy before
Speaker 1: our draft would be very helpful. I'm sure that we'll
Speaker 1: get Ian con in at some point to to do
Speaker 1: an auction strategy show, which makes sense because we could
Speaker 1: pick his brain and help the audience, but it also
Speaker 1: will help us in the auction because you know, we
Speaker 1: want to be like I and Con we want to
Speaker 1: be winners. Yes, next week, by the way, Starr started
Speaker 1: lineup Give It without Greg Sussman in next week confirmed,
Speaker 1: I have Matt Modica on Monday Skype. He's gonna be here.
Speaker 1: I want to talk. I really want to talk about
Speaker 1: the first round with with Modica a lot um and
Speaker 1: talk about I'm gonna listen, listen. I'm going to listen
Speaker 1: to that, so I'm gonna have critiques that I might
Speaker 1: text you whenever I listened to it. I'm gonna I
Speaker 1: don't want to promise, I'm gonna listen. Live, but I
Speaker 1: will be listening or watching at some point. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Modica plays a lot on NFBC. He does a lot
Speaker 1: of high stakes drafts, and on NFBC they have this
Speaker 1: thing called k d s. It's Kentucky Derby style. You
Speaker 1: basically put an order all fifteen picks in what order
Speaker 1: you want them, and then that's how the order is
Speaker 1: generated based on who has what pick highest. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of a strategy I'll get into. Yeah, I'll get
Speaker 1: into with Modica. I'll go through the first round. Which
Speaker 1: pick looks like the bestest here or what range looks
Speaker 1: like the best is yere? I got Chris Venture coming
Speaker 1: up here next next week one day. I know he's
Speaker 1: been dying to talk a little bit baseball, his early
Speaker 1: sleeper breakout first Basement. Josh Bell could talk to him
Speaker 1: about that. I know who he plays a lot in
Speaker 1: Points League, so maybe that show will be more geared
Speaker 1: towards Points League strategy. I'm looking at hitters who don't
Speaker 1: strike out as much. We have good O, B P
Speaker 1: and walk a lot. I know that's why he likes
Speaker 1: Josh Bell. I also have Ian Conn on Wednesday coming
Speaker 1: in to talk about his dynasty rankings. So we're going
Speaker 1: to Dynasty Keeper a little bit. We'll talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: how should you draft if you're in a startup dynasty,
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's a question people have areat question.
Speaker 1: And then I also have Andy Singleton coming in of
Speaker 1: raz Ball. He also does the Fantasy Baseball Show. He
Speaker 1: does great work with pro Spake Jesus Um. So we'll
Speaker 1: have him in either Thursday or Friday. I haven't figured
Speaker 1: out which day yet. Um and I could talk anything
Speaker 1: with him. I could talk prospects, I could talk you know,
Speaker 1: breakouts for this year, whatever's on his mind. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun week next week. I haven't found
Speaker 1: the guests yet for the fifth day. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make it someone special. I'll figure it out. Absolutely, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really really fun week without me. I'm honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be going away and visiting my mom
Speaker 1: in Florida, so like I'm happy to go away and
Speaker 1: get away for a few days and not be sick. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it was out what's her mom's name, Leslie? Leslie? I
Speaker 1: was out a few weeks ago, which stunk. But I
Speaker 1: know your dad's name is Rob sockster man Leslie, I
Speaker 1: didn't know Weslie. Yeah, you don't know Leslie. Yeah. So anyway, um,
Speaker 1: I mean hanging out with her, and I was super
Speaker 1: excited to go away and I was super excited to
Speaker 1: just get a break in. The football season is over
Speaker 1: and right in the middle of basketball season during the
Speaker 1: All Star break. But I'm excited about baseball, man, I
Speaker 1: really really am, and like it hasn't hit the spot
Speaker 1: where like in Jet July, I'm just like I'm doneing baseball.
Speaker 1: Um not last year. Last year I was in the
Speaker 1: whole way. But I'm pump man. I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: talk about it because it's the best time of the year.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the best time of the year. Everybody loves
Speaker 1: to draft. And that's why you know, I've been I
Speaker 1: want to make sure that I'm doing a best ball
Speaker 1: draft at all times throughout the draft season, just like
Speaker 1: change where people are changing and where people are going,
Speaker 1: and not only ten dollar draft. So it's honestly like
Speaker 1: good practice too. That's like see what's going on to
Speaker 1: to prep yourself for your home league, which might be
Speaker 1: you know, a bigger, higher stakes draft or if you
Speaker 1: play in the NFBC or you know, if you have
Speaker 1: a big auction that you need to do and you
Speaker 1: want to kind of get a feel for how people
Speaker 1: are valuing certain players. I'm going to continue to do
Speaker 1: Bestball drafts throughout the draft season just to get an
Speaker 1: idea of where things are going. I know a good
Speaker 1: a good buddy of the program. He's been along. He's
Speaker 1: been a listener since I don't know, last year, in
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. John legates. Yes, he's going
Speaker 1: to join us at some point this week talk about
Speaker 1: this Best Ball strategy because he's been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of Best Ball. He's got great stuff too, um that
Speaker 1: he's been posting on Twitter. MLB Moving Averages is his
Speaker 1: UH is a Twitter account. Make sure to check him
Speaker 1: out because he's got some crazy stuff going. MLB Moving
Speaker 1: a b G is Twitter. He's got like crazy graphs going.
Speaker 1: Jim Ross suggest Friday Friday, maybe we'll be back after this.
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Speaker 1: Can you moonwalk Gregg you get to Michael Jackson. I
Speaker 1: know you've tried. You've definitely tried. It's funny that you
Speaker 1: said that because it's a big controversy right now. You
Speaker 1: have no idea what we're talking about. Obviously you don't
Speaker 1: watch the news, but like I'm gonna say it like that,
Speaker 1: but the big thing going on, Donald Trump like tried
Speaker 1: to moonwalkers, not really Donald Trump is the governor of Virginia.
Speaker 1: Just dude, Ralph Northam. It came out that in his
Speaker 1: med school yearbook he was in a picture like on
Speaker 1: his page on like the Ralph Northron page in the yearbook.
Speaker 1: It was a picture of him and somebody else in
Speaker 1: black face and in a KKK outfit. So that's not great.
Speaker 1: So he came out. He came out on last Friday.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that that that was me in
Speaker 1: the picture. I regrettabla blah blah blah. And then on
Speaker 1: Saturday he's like, no, that wasn't me the picture. That
Speaker 1: was like a wrong picture. And they're like what, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't blackface in San Antonio in four and they're
Speaker 1: just like what. So yeah, I tried to just up
Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson's what I'm getting to. I was about saying, like,
Speaker 1: this is a really really long way of you telling
Speaker 1: me whether or not you can moonwalk. That was the
Speaker 1: original question. Sorry, I'm just telling you this. So the
Speaker 1: point was right. So yeah, I just it was Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: I moonwalked. So someone in the crowd goes, can you
Speaker 1: still moonwalk? You mean one it's a massive press conference
Speaker 1: or the governor of Virginia dressing up as in black
Speaker 1: face and can you still moonwalk? And the dude smiles
Speaker 1: and he's about to do it, and his wife's like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? What are you doing? He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my wife's telling me it's inappropriate to do it right now.
Speaker 1: I just like, how are you still the governor of
Speaker 1: the state? Where is that? Virginia? So since then, by
Speaker 1: the way, the Attorney General Virginia came out today, it
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I just have black face. Back in
Speaker 1: the day, I was like the lieutenant governor. I was
Speaker 1: accused of sexual assault. So things going really well in
Speaker 1: Virginia at the moment. You know, I just didn't even
Speaker 1: realize that I was doing it, But I just did
Speaker 1: the gift of the guy like that one and exactly
Speaker 1: youre talking about. We're talking about so can you moonwalk? Craig?
Speaker 1: You know what, you avoided the question, right, So no,
Speaker 1: not really, but I got yes. Of course I've tried.
Speaker 1: Everyone's tried to moonwalk. I felt like I could do
Speaker 1: when I was younger. I'm not gonna try. You want
Speaker 1: to try. I want to give the people don't know.
Speaker 1: We tried to very poorly didn't go very well. So
Speaker 1: since the next thing, you know will be a gift,
Speaker 1: a gift or a meme picture of Coreyann check out
Speaker 1: Frank Staffele's Twitter for that picture. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to charge whoever you I want to. I want to
Speaker 1: just I wanted to start higher than Charlie Morton. As
Speaker 1: I said last year, I drafted um in the eleventh
Speaker 1: or twelve fish round. I drafted Patrick Corbyn because he
Speaker 1: was your guy last year. You're very high on Patrick
Speaker 1: Corban and the way I did on this particular team
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about is that draft that Florio's guy
Speaker 1: and Blake Snell, and then I drafted your guy and
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbyn. And you know, honesty, Frankie, you couldn't have
Speaker 1: been more right when it came to Patrick Corbyn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously we all get things wrong, but like Corbyn was
Speaker 1: one of the guys who were very very high on
Speaker 1: last year. UM, you sold me on multiple guys last year.
Speaker 1: Sold me Di Castianos also that you didn't draft him. Um.
Speaker 1: But Patrick Corbyn obviously fantastic last year, turned it into
Speaker 1: a big time contract with the Washington Nationals this offseason.
Speaker 1: I'll read you the stats for Corvin eleven and seven
Speaker 1: with a three point one five E right if you're
Speaker 1: a fipp in the next FIP guy, it was less
Speaker 1: than even that three point one five r right two
Speaker 1: point four seven five two point six one x fhip.
Speaker 1: What changed, well, his K per nine was way better
Speaker 1: than ever, with an over eleven K per nine. The
Speaker 1: next highest in his career in the major leagues was
Speaker 1: a year before at eight point four five. Now, it
Speaker 1: had been getting better pretty consistently, but nothing like that.
Speaker 1: The walk rate, while it was fantastic two point one six.
Speaker 1: The best previously in his career was one point eight. Oh,
Speaker 1: but that was a shortened season. Last year is in
Speaker 1: a full season. Two point one six was the walk rate.
Speaker 1: Home run per nine way down at zero point six eight.
Speaker 1: The babbit certainly less than ever, but not like a
Speaker 1: crazy batman. Babbitt was still over three hundred. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was less than um any time his career um ever,
Speaker 1: but still not a crazy wild babit. Let my base presentage,
Speaker 1: not crazy whole run a fly ball ratio. He's a
Speaker 1: big number for you, less than ever at eleven percent.
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbyn was phenomenal last year, but Frank, as you
Speaker 1: like to point out, we don't care about last year.
Speaker 1: We care about projecting this year and beyond. What do
Speaker 1: you think about Patrick Corban in nineteen? Where is he going?
Speaker 1: What does everybody think? And most importantly to me, what
Speaker 1: do you think so Patrick corbyan people are buying in
Speaker 1: and you have to pay a pretty penny to to
Speaker 1: be in on Patrick Corban this year with an ADP
Speaker 1: of fifty point zero nine. Some other starting pitchers that
Speaker 1: are going just behind him include James Paxton, Jamison Tyne,
Speaker 1: Steven Strassburg, Mike Clevinger, Zak Ranky, Jack Flaherty. Those are
Speaker 1: the five six that are going right behind Patrick Corban.
Speaker 1: Seems like, just just judging what you said, it seems
Speaker 1: like the right spot to be fair. Yeah, based on
Speaker 1: how he perfor one last year. And look, he's going
Speaker 1: to a better park. He's going to Washington. It's a
Speaker 1: better Pictures park. Even last year the park factors or
Speaker 1: Chase Field, I mean, there were more runs, there were
Speaker 1: more home runs there. Uh. He doesn't have to pitch
Speaker 1: in Colorado anymore a couple of times per year. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have to pitch against the Rockies anymore. He's moving
Speaker 1: over to Washington and the N East where he's gonna
Speaker 1: get to face to Miami Marlins. He pitches in a
Speaker 1: better ballpark. He's gonna get to face the Mets, which
Speaker 1: they've completely revamped their lineup. I don't know that their
Speaker 1: murderers row by any means um. The Phillies have a
Speaker 1: very good lineup um, and then the Braves have a
Speaker 1: pretty good lineup as well. So it's a little bit
Speaker 1: hot and cold they're pitching in in the N E East.
Speaker 1: I like the ballpark, you get the Marlins, you get
Speaker 1: the Mets, but you also do have to pitch against
Speaker 1: the Braves and the Phillies, which I don't really like
Speaker 1: all of that much. Patrick Corbyn last year basically developed
Speaker 1: a slider which was otherworldly in terms of like picture
Speaker 1: pitch values fan crafts. Fan Grafts has this thing pitch
Speaker 1: values UM, where they basically wait how great a pitch
Speaker 1: was for I mean they taken to as many factors
Speaker 1: as you can think of. You know, how many whiffs
Speaker 1: you get, how effective the pitches in terms of batting
Speaker 1: average against, slugging percentage, isolated power. According to them, his
Speaker 1: slider was the fourth best pitch in all of baseball
Speaker 1: last year among starting pitchers, it was the it was
Speaker 1: the best. It was the second best slider in all
Speaker 1: of baseball, behind only Max Scherzer. My problem with this
Speaker 1: slider is he did throw it more. He threw it
Speaker 1: about three percent more than a year before. He threw
Speaker 1: the pitchty eight percent of the time. Last year he
Speaker 1: threw the pitch forty one percent of the time. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, if you look even deeper, and what
Speaker 1: I've read about it is that it didn't change that
Speaker 1: drastically the pitch itself in terms of how much movement
Speaker 1: it had, in terms of veloc at e. How much
Speaker 1: depth he was getting on the pitch the pitch, so
Speaker 1: it didn't move all that much and only threw it
Speaker 1: about three four percent more than the year of four.
Speaker 1: Yet his results were drastically drastically different. So that gives
Speaker 1: me a little bit of concern there, because buying in
Speaker 1: on that pitch, if it if by all like means
Speaker 1: it didn't change all that much. Why are we trusting it?
Speaker 1: So I could be an anomaly? No, so I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Like to me, when you tell me that
Speaker 1: and you give me that stat I don't think it's
Speaker 1: an anomaly because I was looking at his game logs
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, I mean he had a slump in May,
Speaker 1: but like it was pretty consistent throughout the year. What
Speaker 1: I'm wondering is, Frank, just as Patrick Corby has gotten older,
Speaker 1: maybe the pitch selection just got better. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: able to hide it a bit more. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: able to just learn how to pitch and understand when
Speaker 1: to use the slider more. He used it only three
Speaker 1: or four percent more, but like when to use it
Speaker 1: rather than kind of just throwing it Whenever I see this,
Speaker 1: what you're telling me as a sign of a maturing
Speaker 1: picture and a guy that maybe has just figured out
Speaker 1: how to pitch a little bit. That could definitely be
Speaker 1: the case. And look, the underlying factors are like the
Speaker 1: skills I'm telling you downstairs. When I was looking into
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbin today, there was a lot to like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when we referenced FHIP and x fit, these are eer
Speaker 1: A indicators which take into account so it means so,
Speaker 1: so what does it mean FHIP is feeling independent pitching?
Speaker 1: What and what difference between HIP and x fit. So
Speaker 1: the difference between PHIP and x fit is basically it
Speaker 1: takes out defense as a factor. It's basically a weighted
Speaker 1: scale like what your EERA should be if your defense
Speaker 1: was league average or and that's what makes it lower
Speaker 1: or higher than your earing. It tries to take fielding
Speaker 1: as a variable out of the r A. It tells
Speaker 1: you what your EARA should be like fielding were in
Speaker 1: a variable and XFIT basically does. It creates your ear
Speaker 1: A what your ear A should be based on a
Speaker 1: league average home run to flyball ratio, So taking kind
Speaker 1: of I guess luck or luck or unluckiness out of
Speaker 1: the equation when it's when it comes to how many
Speaker 1: home runs you gave up, and that's why you'll hear
Speaker 1: a guy like Massa Heiro Tanaka might have a four
Speaker 1: e ar A and his x FIT is going to
Speaker 1: be like three point two because his home run the
Speaker 1: flyball ratio is much higher than everyone else because he
Speaker 1: pitches in the Yankee city, right, So it tries to
Speaker 1: take some of these things which are not really controlled
Speaker 1: by the picture, like the defense behind them or basically
Speaker 1: where they pitch and how many home runs they're allowing
Speaker 1: their home run the flyball ratio. It kind of it
Speaker 1: takes those things out as variables and tells you how
Speaker 1: lucky or unlucky picture was. What do you like? I
Speaker 1: use a combination of everything because I don't you know,
Speaker 1: I know more. Dickie used to come on and say
Speaker 1: he liked ex fit more, right, So you know I'd
Speaker 1: like to take There's fifth, there's x FI, there's SIERRA,
Speaker 1: which is skill interactive e r A, which takes more
Speaker 1: into account, uh, the skill of your of specific pitches
Speaker 1: and stuff. So like you could take all these different
Speaker 1: e r A indicators, and you know, I'll use all
Speaker 1: of them. I'm not just gonna use one of them.
Speaker 1: You know, there's one whole weight more than the other.
Speaker 1: Like it depends who you ask. You could ask ten
Speaker 1: people and get ten ten different answers. So I try
Speaker 1: and use as many of these, you know, e r
Speaker 1: A indicators as I possibly can. So I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: at FIP X, FIP Sierra, and then I'm also gonna
Speaker 1: look at the r A and kind of see how
Speaker 1: they compare. Just because pictures FIP or x fit is
Speaker 1: lower all the time doesn't mean that the e r
Speaker 1: A is ever gonna get there either. Look at a
Speaker 1: guy like Chris Archer, right as good as everyone wants
Speaker 1: Chris Archer to be and you might have this image
Speaker 1: in your head of Chris Archer being awesome. The past
Speaker 1: two or three years, his ear A has been over
Speaker 1: four every single season is fipping. His x FIP are
Speaker 1: much lower than his r A. That reminds me. That
Speaker 1: reminds me of John Gray stipping. If people remember, I
Speaker 1: mean me and Florio that that was probably one of
Speaker 1: the most polarizing players him and Joann Makata. Remember we
Speaker 1: got into like shouting matches last year over John Gray
Speaker 1: and Joan Moncada. John Gray, I mean, yeah, he'd be
Speaker 1: great if you pitched in the next FIP league, But
Speaker 1: he pitches in coors Field, so at some point changing,
Speaker 1: At some point you gotta kind of like take the
Speaker 1: sample for what it is. Like if it's happened for
Speaker 1: three or four years out of his career, it's more
Speaker 1: of a trend something that you should trust. But anyway, digress,
Speaker 1: just trying to get into like FIP and next FIP.
Speaker 1: Patrick Corban's ear A last here was three point one five.
Speaker 1: He was very, very good. He was a cy young candidate.
Speaker 1: He was amazing. It's two hundred forty strikeouts, two six
Speaker 1: strikeouts and two and he's pitched. His FIP was two
Speaker 1: point four seven, his x FIT was two point six one.
Speaker 1: So based on variables that might be out of Patrick
Speaker 1: Corbyn's control, his ear RA should have been even better
Speaker 1: than what it was. There's a lot of good and bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, his caper nine over eleven last year, his
Speaker 1: walks two point one six, one of the best marks
Speaker 1: of his career. Those numbers, Greg, they got even better
Speaker 1: in the second half. His his caper nine in the
Speaker 1: second half went up two, I believe in the first
Speaker 1: half it was right around ten. In the second half
Speaker 1: was like eleven and a half, and his walks for
Speaker 1: nine were under two. He was phenomenal and he and
Speaker 1: he's still got you know, forty eight percent groundballs. One
Speaker 1: of the things you do have to worry about. His
Speaker 1: hard hit rate or you one point seven percent last year,
Speaker 1: so he's giving up a lot of hard contact. It
Speaker 1: was the second most along starting pitchers last season, behind
Speaker 1: only Cole Handles. You don't really afew Cole Hamiles is
Speaker 1: like one of the best starting pitchers in the league.
Speaker 1: Anymore so if your hard hit rate is you know,
Speaker 1: ranging up there amongst some of the highest in the
Speaker 1: league with a guy like Cole Hamiles. I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta take all these things into account, like you have
Speaker 1: to pay a fourth fifth round price tech for Patrick
Speaker 1: Corban is here. You want to know, am I gonna
Speaker 1: get the picture of who pitch last year? Am I
Speaker 1: gonna get anything close to it? Something else that jumps
Speaker 1: off the screen to me? Greg the fastball velocity nine
Speaker 1: point eight miles per hour last year two point four
Speaker 1: And that was the thing that we noticed the first
Speaker 1: month of the season. Remember he was pitching and then
Speaker 1: we kind of went through this stretch where we were
Speaker 1: really worried about because he was pitching eighty nine. He
Speaker 1: was touching nine, but he was consistently like below ninety.
Speaker 1: So him throwing the slider forty one percent of the time,
Speaker 1: and by all accounts, what people say about the slider
Speaker 1: as a pitch in baseball is it puts It puts
Speaker 1: more torque on your arm than any other pitch. Who's
Speaker 1: to say him throwing his sliderent of the time, it's
Speaker 1: kind of messing with his arm, you know, devaluing the
Speaker 1: fastball he has had before. Why don't just want to
Speaker 1: note that, Yes, but look as good as everything was.
Speaker 1: I like Patrick Corbin, but I'm I'm a skeptic. That's
Speaker 1: that's how I will label what I'm seeing from last year.
Speaker 1: And I liked him last year because he was going
Speaker 1: outside the top thirty starting pitchers. You're getting him at
Speaker 1: a good value. It doesn't mean like if you haven't
Speaker 1: been a keeper or dynasty. Yes, you could still be
Speaker 1: excited about him if you have him at a good value.
Speaker 1: Fourth fifth round with some of those other names that
Speaker 1: I mentioned. And I haven't done my starting picture ranking,
Speaker 1: so you know, come March, I'll know whether or not
Speaker 1: I like Patrick Corbin at that value at starting picture.
Speaker 1: But as of right now, I'm a skeptic. There's a
Speaker 1: lot that I liked. He got more he he looked.
Speaker 1: The skills definitely improved. He was getting more swinging strikes,
Speaker 1: he was, you know, pounding the zone in terms of
Speaker 1: first pitch strike percentage. He was getting a head in
Speaker 1: the count, he was getting people to chase. He had
Speaker 1: a thirty eight percent outside swing rate last year. Um,
Speaker 1: by all means that slider was absolutely legit. But I
Speaker 1: just questioned, why why was it so good if the
Speaker 1: movement on it didn't change, If you only use it
Speaker 1: three or four percent more than the year before. Why
Speaker 1: was it so much better? And to me, if there's
Speaker 1: no evidence, it strikes me as an anomaly. And then
Speaker 1: you put on top the hard hit rate and the
Speaker 1: fastball of velocity being down. With Patrick Corbin, I'm a skeptic.
Speaker 1: It's a high price to pay in the fourth, fifth round.
Speaker 1: So the one word, if I'm understanding, the one word
Speaker 1: you would use to describe Patrick Corban, I think it
Speaker 1: would make this a thing. By the way, I'm always
Speaker 1: gonna sum it up with one word. The one word
Speaker 1: that you would use to subscribe to describe Patrick Corban
Speaker 1: is skeptical. Yeah, And it almost seems unfair to say,
Speaker 1: because there is there is a lot to like, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot that jumps off the screen screen in
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, things that you should worry about.
Speaker 1: Two the guys that you the guys that you just named, Jameson,
Speaker 1: tie On, James Paxton, Zach Grinky. Where does how would
Speaker 1: you rank those guys? How where Patrick Corbyn fall among
Speaker 1: those players? Yeah? Paxton, I might want more skeptical on Paxiston, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paxston is we talked about Paxxton and got scared off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, he was pitching to more
Speaker 1: fly Bowl contacts. He's going into Yankee Stadium. Yes, he
Speaker 1: got more strikeouts last year, but he did allow you know,
Speaker 1: more hard contact. He's moving from Safeco Fields Yankee Stadium. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he might be better on like a per
Speaker 1: start basis than Patrick Corbyan might have more upside in
Speaker 1: that regard, But Patrick Corban did just go two innings,
Speaker 1: so he's probably a little bit more. It's probably a
Speaker 1: little bit safer than James Paxton. Um, Jamison Tyne, I really,
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta do my homework on on Jamison
Speaker 1: ty one because he started throwing a slider last year
Speaker 1: for the first time, and I've tweeted out these numbers before,
Speaker 1: and basically once he started throwing that slider consistently, he
Speaker 1: was a high two's, low three's e r A kind
Speaker 1: of picture. The thing is like he didn't have close
Speaker 1: to the same upside that Patrick Corbin, Like he wasn't
Speaker 1: getting like eleven case for now, he was gonna like
Speaker 1: nine case for nine. He was getting a strikeout per ning. Um,
Speaker 1: So I like him. I think he's very solid. I
Speaker 1: think No. Forty five to fifty. I'm saying brown ball
Speaker 1: rate for Tywn. I like him a lot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta do more. I gotta do. I would say it's
Speaker 1: right now, if you're drafting right now. I'm skeptical, Pett,
Speaker 1: that's the word skeptical. I think I'm a little more
Speaker 1: in on Vatuck Corbyn probably than you. I think I
Speaker 1: believe it a little bit more, but I hear where
Speaker 1: you're coming from. When we come back, we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: the Riverville before we get into Charlie Morton. Uh. San
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants has met with Bryce Harper in Ves their
Speaker 1: owner general manager um and of course puspose you were there.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards they went to Scott Forces Private Jet
Speaker 1: and for Hansiety and um Brest met for a while.
Speaker 1: Guy's a rich man. They'll total money. Obviously they were
Speaker 1: waste your time though, like why do you waste everyone's
Speaker 1: John's are not signing with Greg. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: the state of that organization. I mean they need to
Speaker 1: just tear it down and start over, because I mean
Speaker 1: you look at the money that like Evan Longoria is
Speaker 1: owed over the next couple of years. Madison bomb Garner
Speaker 1: is entering a contract year. They still have Johnny Quato
Speaker 1: on the books. They don't have a good farm system
Speaker 1: at all. So like the state of the San Francisco
Speaker 1: Giants I know that they went through you know, I
Speaker 1: would consider them and probably the Red Sox unfortunately, the
Speaker 1: two baseball teams that you might consider a dynasty in
Speaker 1: in this millennium. Because what the Giants have won the
Speaker 1: three World Series. I mean, they were great. And the
Speaker 1: thing is a lot of those players got old. They've
Speaker 1: moved on. I mean Buster Posey's and the player that
Speaker 1: he once was. By the way, speaking of the Giants
Speaker 1: kind of up to the Christian Royo is like not good.
Speaker 1: It was injured a lot last years. Maybe we end
Speaker 1: up being good. He's in Tampa Bay now. He was
Speaker 1: traded in the trade, so he was the fever top prospects.
Speaker 1: You're talking about their prospects not being good, but they've
Speaker 1: I don't know if Christian Royal is ever gonna get
Speaker 1: a shot. That's that's what I'm saying. So disappointing. I
Speaker 1: felt like he could have been a good player, but
Speaker 1: he never really had a tool that was kind of
Speaker 1: jumped off the page for like a fantasy perspectively. He
Speaker 1: wasn't a guy that hit three fifty in the minors.
Speaker 1: He didn't have big power, he didn't see a lot
Speaker 1: of basses. He kind of did everything, like all right,
Speaker 1: I think he just kind of got hyped up because
Speaker 1: he was the best in the Giants organization. But their
Speaker 1: their farm was terrible, So it's like, what does that
Speaker 1: mean if you're the best in a bad farm. You
Speaker 1: see the Yankees a lot, right, their price projects get
Speaker 1: hyped up because it was the best they had in
Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible and for a long time, Like there
Speaker 1: was a ten year stretch where Yankees farm system was brutal,
Speaker 1: killer bees, right, Benuelos, but Tantas turned into a great reliever.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be a starting pitcher, and so
Speaker 1: is Mariann Rivera. So it doesn't necessarily count. But like
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the these hyped up guys,
Speaker 1: you really have to take it into it's a context.
Speaker 1: Just because you're the best prospect in an organization, the
Speaker 1: organization is a bad farm system. It really just doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm totally gonna be back in Garcia
Speaker 1: with the race. I know, I am why I can't
Speaker 1: quit him one of these guys. Good place, that's a
Speaker 1: good place to continue going here. Absolutely, that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of why I'm here. See what I did that looking
Speaker 1: at your looking at the roster resource pagers. M yes,
Speaker 1: you can back roster resource and use it all. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to see what was going on with that,
Speaker 1: Like Austin Meadows, Like I could definitely see myself buying
Speaker 1: in Austin's fun. They're always fun. Tyler Glass now I
Speaker 1: want to talk about at some point like Glass will
Speaker 1: be good. Medca distracted him like the eleventh round, which
Speaker 1: seems kind of early. But yeah, if there's a guy
Speaker 1: that I trust when it comes to starting pitching, it's Modica.
Speaker 1: You mean, you know the past couple of years when
Speaker 1: he's had a guy, that guy has been awesome. Last
Speaker 1: year it was Garret Cold The year before that it
Speaker 1: was James Paxson last year too, like Modica when it
Speaker 1: comes to pitching. I mean, so if you don't mind
Speaker 1: him Monday asking him number one, who that guy is?
Speaker 1: This year number two asking about Tyler Glass now, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I want to get a stought on
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbin too, because now I've I piqued my own interest. Sure,
Speaker 1: I want to know how other people feel about I
Speaker 1: just want you to ask those questions for me, last
Speaker 1: now and last now, and who this guy is who
Speaker 1: is like this year's Paxton is that we'll talk about
Speaker 1: whatever draft he's doing right now. Yeah, obviously he used
Speaker 1: to like knowing everybody who's gonna take that. He was
Speaker 1: taking this guy in a million drafts. I don't know
Speaker 1: who that is yet. So well also, but like I
Speaker 1: also should really should realize and note that this Monday
Speaker 1: starts Mondays with Modica. It doesn't end Mondays of Modica.
Speaker 1: That just starts in right. Yeah, hopefully we can have
Speaker 1: him on every Monday as a regular guest, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the entire show, but get him
Speaker 1: on for us anything. I just need to know. I
Speaker 1: need to talk to the Raise made a rare big
Speaker 1: ticket signing this offseason where they signed Charlie Wharton up
Speaker 1: for two years and a ton of money. Charlie money.
Speaker 1: That when you see big ticket though, that's like it's
Speaker 1: a lot of money in like two years, twenty million
Speaker 1: really not that big of a two years. Thirty million
Speaker 1: was off by ten. It's a big difference. Fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars a a v for a thirty five year old picture.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I mean you don't normally see Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay make a move like that. Yeah, two years thirty
Speaker 1: millions signed anybody we usually signed like somebody for like
Speaker 1: very little money. Yeah, like they were many exactly. No
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, nothing like this, No that. Charlie Morton everything
Speaker 1: knows the story right, Like guys thirty five years old,
Speaker 1: he's been around the league forever. Uh. When he went
Speaker 1: from the Braves of the Pirates, like all right, right serious,
Speaker 1: I like, I like, what's happening here? Didn't really happen.
Speaker 1: And then he went over to the Astros and like, okay,
Speaker 1: used to the Astros, Now what can happen? Well? In
Speaker 1: seventeen he went fourteen and seven. Um, his CAPER nine
Speaker 1: was was always good. With the tenny started walking less people.
Speaker 1: E r A very was very good. It was good
Speaker 1: at three point six to last year even better, he
Speaker 1: went fifteen and three. Caper nine went up to ten
Speaker 1: point eight three. Walks also went up to three point
Speaker 1: four five. The e r A really went down at
Speaker 1: three point one three, although the X fIF and FIP
Speaker 1: remained right around where his e R A was a
Speaker 1: year ago. Charlie Morton is a thirty five year old
Speaker 1: guy that's kind of leading the confines of Houston and
Speaker 1: goes over to Tampa, and it makes you a little
Speaker 1: bit nervous. But where he's going, which is where Frank,
Speaker 1: he is going at pick one two. He's the thirty
Speaker 1: second starting pitcher off the board right now. So as
Speaker 1: the thirty second pitcher off the board, it's not like
Speaker 1: you're paying the exorbitant amount of hime or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but you're wondering if he could be what he's been
Speaker 1: in the last two years or be what it was
Speaker 1: the two years prior to that, where he had an
Speaker 1: over four e r A in both of these seasons
Speaker 1: with Philadelphia four point eight one and fifteen four point
Speaker 1: one five. I'll buy an excellent FIP and x FIP
Speaker 1: in s who is the real Charlie Morton? Frank, who
Speaker 1: is the real Charlie Morton? Well, that's what we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to figure out because Houston, basically, for all intensive purposes,
Speaker 1: they've turned into the new Pittsburgh Pirates in terms of
Speaker 1: taking a starting pitcher and making said starting pitcher amazing.
Speaker 1: Right justin Verlander as great as he was, he you know,
Speaker 1: he had a few seasons where he's kind of he
Speaker 1: he bounced back with Detroit, but never to the level
Speaker 1: that he's done with Houston, and then you see a
Speaker 1: guy like Derek Cole also go over to the Houston
Speaker 1: Astros again. He had a few fine seasons with the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates, and he was a former top prospect and
Speaker 1: was supposed to be amazing but kind of ran into
Speaker 1: some tough times with Pittsburgh. Goes over to Houston last
Speaker 1: year amazing. The same thing happened with Charlie Morton the
Speaker 1: past two seasons from eight from two thousand eight to
Speaker 1: two thou fifteen, greg four point five four e r
Speaker 1: A six point to eight ks per nine, three point
Speaker 1: three eight walks per nine. He was basically a pitch
Speaker 1: to contact fifty groundball guy. Uh fastball change, curveball, change
Speaker 1: up through his fastball sixty six percent at the time,
Speaker 1: only through his curveball through a change up nine since.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest differences that we've seen six miles
Speaker 1: per hour from two thousand eight to two thousand fifteen
Speaker 1: on his fastball six a seven point seven percent swinging
Speaker 1: strike grade for all his pitches the past two seasons
Speaker 1: is bastball velocity has been point four miles as he's
Speaker 1: gotten older. As he's gotten older and we've heard that
Speaker 1: a philosophy of the Houston Astros has come out, something
Speaker 1: that they tell their pictures to do. It was basically,
Speaker 1: throw the ball as hard as you can, like, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. We were not worried about you know,
Speaker 1: if you got to go in the dyel at some
Speaker 1: point and you've seen that the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: For Charlie Morton, you can't really project him for more
Speaker 1: than a hundred and fifty hundred and six. It's basically
Speaker 1: where he's been. But hey, when you're on the field,
Speaker 1: when you're on that mound, we want you to throw
Speaker 1: the ball as hard as possible. But we we did
Speaker 1: see a little bit of that before he went to Houston.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that season Gregg back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen, he joined the Phillies for about four starts
Speaker 1: and he um, I've forgot what the injury was, but
Speaker 1: he suffered a season ending injury. That preseason, everyone was
Speaker 1: kind of talking to Charlie Morton like, this guy is
Speaker 1: throwing with serious velocity as part of the Phillies organization.
Speaker 1: This is something that we were already starting to see
Speaker 1: even before he joined Houston. For whatever reason, whoever he
Speaker 1: worked with his fastball shot up to ninety four miles
Speaker 1: per hour in and only four starts with the Phillies,
Speaker 1: but it was something that people were legitimately talking about
Speaker 1: throughout the spring training UH that year, and his swinging
Speaker 1: strike create went up to twelve percent, so we were
Speaker 1: already starting to see this change. Um. The biggest change
Speaker 1: another change that I've seen in you know, early Charlie
Speaker 1: Mooreton to the past two seasons is he throws his
Speaker 1: curveball nine percent of the time rather than so it's
Speaker 1: up nine percent the past two years. And then um,
Speaker 1: he also throws a cutter now eight point six percent
Speaker 1: of time. He really has like four different like iterations
Speaker 1: of a fastball. He has a four steamer, he has
Speaker 1: a cutter, a sinker, and he has a split fastball
Speaker 1: that he throws as well, so he has four different fastballs.
Speaker 1: He throws a very effective curveball. Um, he limits hard contact.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been you know under thirty two the
Speaker 1: past couple of seasons, and he carried that over to
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. If there, I said this to venture downstairs,
Speaker 1: if there was one organization that Probabie Morton could change
Speaker 1: to going away from Houston. To me, I would want
Speaker 1: it to be Tampa because they are a forward thinking organization.
Speaker 1: They have, you know, one of the better analytics departments,
Speaker 1: going from you know, starting uh closer relievers last year,
Speaker 1: having the opener, and then kind of like throwing everybody off,
Speaker 1: getting the most out of a guy like Blake Snell,
Speaker 1: you know, getting him on track, turning him into a
Speaker 1: cy Young Award winner the way that they did. If
Speaker 1: there was one organization that he could go to, I
Speaker 1: like the fact that he went to Tampa. With all
Speaker 1: that being said, the change in division, he has to
Speaker 1: pitch against the Red Sox, he's gotta pitch in Fenway,
Speaker 1: He's gotta go to Yankee Stadium. I still do like
Speaker 1: Charlie Morton, and I still think that he can be
Speaker 1: a good source of strikeouts. I think the ear a
Speaker 1: rises a little bit. I think it's a fair projection.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's in the three four, three
Speaker 1: five range. Maybe he's more three six three seven now
Speaker 1: this year, Greg, but I do think that he'll still
Speaker 1: be a source of strikeouts this year. Um over a
Speaker 1: strikeout for ending, I think he could be close to ten.
Speaker 1: He's still gonna walk some guys. But the whip the
Speaker 1: past couple of years has still been pretty good. It's
Speaker 1: been under one point to zero the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, three point six three point seven
Speaker 1: ear a one point to one point to five whip
Speaker 1: is fair? Is it worth the thirty second starting pitcher
Speaker 1: off the board? I could probably find guys that I
Speaker 1: like better. I think he's a better roto pitcher. I
Speaker 1: think he's a better head to head categories pitcher because
Speaker 1: uh in in points leaves, you want guys that are
Speaker 1: gonna be durable. They are gonna give you ennings, gonna
Speaker 1: go deep into their starts. I do think probably more
Speaker 1: in his more in that mold of like a rich Hill.
Speaker 1: What did Mike always say about Rich Hill? He's a
Speaker 1: great roto picture because of what he does on a
Speaker 1: per start basis. That's That's how Charlie Morton strikes me.
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you. I'm just nervous as
Speaker 1: he continues to get older, as he does change leases
Speaker 1: in the A L. East. Now, I'm concerned about the injuries,
Speaker 1: are concerned about what that workload will be like with
Speaker 1: the Rays now with Blake Snell listen, let him throw
Speaker 1: a hundred pitches every time out and it wasn't a
Speaker 1: thought process like Blake Snell was treated as a normal
Speaker 1: starting picture for the most part. Will they treat Charlie
Speaker 1: Morton like that, you'd hope so after giving him two
Speaker 1: years or thirty million dollars um, I have considered Charlie Morton.
Speaker 1: I like him, I don't love him. Frank he would
Speaker 1: give me one word described Morton, would it be? Mm hmm?
Speaker 1: The first thing that came to my mind was surprising,
Speaker 1: But I think that's just like how he's been the
Speaker 1: past couple of years. It's not really how I feel
Speaker 1: about him heading into this year. I put this as
Speaker 1: one of the options on the pole for today and
Speaker 1: involving Charlie Morton, man, and that's how I feel about him. Okay,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll still be a good source of strikeouts on
Speaker 1: a per start basis. I do like that. But again,
Speaker 1: I think the ear a jumps a little bit the
Speaker 1: fact that he has to say Aston New York or
Speaker 1: he has to see the Yankees more. I mean these
Speaker 1: are now obviously well ultimately that comes to nation as well. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: he's always faced a d H being with the ashows.
Speaker 1: Oh that's forgot that unbelieving. I think the ear a
Speaker 1: rises a little bit. I think he's more than like
Speaker 1: the three six or three seven range. He is a
Speaker 1: serviceable starting pitcher under hundred sixty and he's pitch. Would
Speaker 1: you really want them for is the strikeouts? But me personally,
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting the same Charlie Morton that we've seen
Speaker 1: the past two years. With that, we're gonna sid off
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Speaker 1: want to go to the phone lines here, Frank and
Speaker 1: four four nine go to Kevin in Missouri. How are
Speaker 1: you doing? Guys? Hey? Sorry to call back, but um,
Speaker 1: the twenty nine team chief schedule has came out and
Speaker 1: I do not get why are we playing in New
Speaker 1: England again? That is ridiculous, I think, And you know what,
Speaker 1: it's our turn for them to come to Arrowhead and
Speaker 1: play us that Arrowhead in a regular game. You know.
Speaker 1: With with the Patriots schedule, they're gonna go play at
Speaker 1: Buffalo and they're gonna go play Cincinnati Bengals, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: what's the deal with that? That is not a game
Speaker 1: at all. They need somebody that they can go to
Speaker 1: and try to be at their home stadium, not no
Speaker 1: team that cannot play football. The chief get rigged every season.
Speaker 1: And this is why the Chiefs have not been to
Speaker 1: Super Bowls because that you know, the NFL is rigged,
Speaker 1: or or you know, they weren't good enough in the
Speaker 1: last game of season against the Patriots at home at
Speaker 1: our head stadium. Other one record this year as well,
Speaker 1: So aren't they going to face a tougher schedule? I
Speaker 1: I do hear what you're saying about how they had
Speaker 1: to to travel to face the Patriots this past year.
Speaker 1: They lost a home We're not talking about the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't care. You can't tell me it's rigged against
Speaker 1: these Chiefs when they were at home in the playoffs
Speaker 1: they lost. The deal is as though, is you know,
Speaker 1: yeah we lost. Yeah, teams screw up, but it's a
Speaker 1: new year. We're ready for them to come play at Arrowheads.
Speaker 1: It's not because it's not because they're screwing them. There's
Speaker 1: a there's a reason for that. I don't know the
Speaker 1: reason and when it was the NFL schedule scheduling, but
Speaker 1: there is a reason, um of why you play which
Speaker 1: team is home in a way I can look that
Speaker 1: up and I will. I tweeted it out. Um, there
Speaker 1: is a reason for it's not getting screwed there. There's
Speaker 1: there is some logic behind that. Four six eight four
Speaker 1: eight four three six eight seven nine. Uh, Frankie, we
Speaker 1: have a couple of minutes left and that's enough to
Speaker 1: justify Wade Miley. H Wade Miley. Uh came out of
Speaker 1: the brew was midways through the year. Listen, way Mile
Speaker 1: He's not exciting for anybody, but he's awesome for the Brewers,
Speaker 1: and he turned that into a contract this year at
Speaker 1: the Astros and he's starting picture in the Astros. We're
Speaker 1: talking about we're gonna get into some of their younger
Speaker 1: guys um coming up in the upcoming weeks. What do
Speaker 1: you think about Wade Miley? So, Wade Miley, he's gotta
Speaker 1: First of all, he's got a DP in the month
Speaker 1: of February of four sixty, so you know he's basically
Speaker 1: going for nothing if you play in these NFBC leads
Speaker 1: he has jumped, but you're getting him super late. I
Speaker 1: do think that any time a picture does, you know,
Speaker 1: move over to the Houston Astros, you have to be
Speaker 1: at least somewhat intrigued. And they've already talked about how
Speaker 1: they're gonna let him throw that cutter as much as
Speaker 1: he did last year. I know he threw it like
Speaker 1: forty one percent of the time. That was by far
Speaker 1: a career high for him, whereas you know in eleven
Speaker 1: percent of the time and that pitch was very effective
Speaker 1: for him. So a career high forty two percent cutter
Speaker 1: usage last year for Wade Miley. I'm intrigued to see
Speaker 1: what more the Houston Astros can get out of him.
Speaker 1: Do I have great expectations for him? No. He had
Speaker 1: a two point five seven e r A last year
Speaker 1: at the Brewers with the with a caper nine under
Speaker 1: six and three walks per nine. It's fit with three
Speaker 1: point five nine. His ex fit was four point three
Speaker 1: zero and still gave up a lot of hard contact.
Speaker 1: So it's not just oh, any picture that goes to
Speaker 1: Houston is automatically going to become great, but and Houston
Speaker 1: kind of get the most out of him, and you know,
Speaker 1: use that cutter a lot, and you know, have him
Speaker 1: throw the ball as hard as he possibly can and
Speaker 1: and get the most out of his secondary pitches as well.
Speaker 1: And he can pitch too. I don't know an e
Speaker 1: r A under four at pick four sixty right now
Speaker 1: in the NBC. I think that's certainly doable. I think
Speaker 1: he could be an ear A under four guy. Kenny, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean getting picked at four sixty three. I mean
Speaker 1: because you literally don't think no people are gonna get
Speaker 1: excited about him, especially if he does anything in spring training.
Speaker 1: It's just for the fact that he's moving over to Houston.
Speaker 1: And I mean you have realistic expectation as you just
Speaker 1: in with Charlie Morton. All Heaston asked you to do
Speaker 1: is air it out and wait by I could air
Speaker 1: it out. There could be something level of interest there
Speaker 1: every good reason. Fransies up, Naxt, Corey, Jim and of
Speaker 1: course Ventcher. Thanks everybody downstairs, Frank Stamford and Gregg Susman's
Speaker 1: doing long in tomorrow, we hope