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Speaker 1: Oh, Joe got the bad news.

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Speaker 2: According to Adam Schefter, Michael Penick suffered a partially torn

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Speaker 2: Pennix is seeking a second of opinion, but this is

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Speaker 2: not encouraging. This is expected to be the fifth season

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Speaker 2: inding injury for Pinnis in his eight college and NFL seasons.

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Speaker 1: Fifth third ACL.

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Speaker 2: He towards ACL in twenty twenty, I mean, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: Damn oh wait.

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Speaker 1: So so out of eight years he's been he's been

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Speaker 2: He's an inding see because one year I think he

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think when he was at Indiana. If I'm

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Speaker 3: Now that sucks, man, that that that that that totally sucks.

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Speaker 1: That sucks. I hate that.

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Speaker 3: I hate that for him.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, they weren't having the season you know, they they

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Speaker 3: You need those reps. You need those reps.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure after this season ended, he would have

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Speaker 3: Damn that that that that totally sucks to be for.

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Speaker 1: Him to have a season and an injury and be

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Speaker 3: There's no need for a second opinion.

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Speaker 1: Going there, get the work that needs to be done

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Speaker 1: to the following year, which you're having what six six seven,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you, I mean, look just November, so

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Speaker 1: That's nine months. You know, that's plenty time. Is it

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Speaker 2: I just hope he can have a career like Thomas Davis.

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Speaker 2: Thomas Davis tour his ACL three times, it came back

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Speaker 2: So let's just hope if it's a situation like that,

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Speaker 1: Damn man. That's yeah, it's something. Drake London got hurt

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Speaker 3: Like these injuries due.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons dropped the quarterback at the top ten, paid

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Speaker 1: Somehow, they year and a half later, they're in quarterback purgatory.

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Speaker 2: A quarterback where I get it, o Jo. But he

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Speaker 2: You think it's hard for me to see a scenario

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Speaker 2: Let's just say he had five years and four of

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Speaker 1: You're probably not going in the top ten. Damn.

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Speaker 2: Also, But I just hope, like I said, I hope

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Speaker 2: imagine rehab all over again, O Joe. And the thing is,

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Speaker 2: Training is where you put your body into a situation

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Speaker 2: to You gotta rehab. That is what you do with rehab.

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Speaker 2: Rehab just gets you back to where you were. I'm

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Speaker 1: I hate injuries do it because I understand how much

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Speaker 1: How can I make everyone else job around me? All Right?

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Speaker 3: Now, just focus on another ten offensively you already I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be there for you. No, matter what you need, no

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Speaker 2: Put you to maintain your strength. Guess your shoulders hurt,

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Speaker 1: Hey, you get the bulky work, the meat potatoes. You

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Speaker 2: Right, oh Joe. The Falcons do not have a first

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Speaker 1: The Rams in Minnesota. The Rams. Okay, they haven't given

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Speaker 3: Oh shit, that's right, that's right, you're right, right, But I.

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Speaker 2: Think about it, Oh, Joe, name another position a guy

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Speaker 1: No, there is none. Because they understand how valuable the

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Speaker 1: understand it's hard to get quarterbacks that have put up

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Speaker 1: the numbers that Kirk Cousins is put up, even though

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Speaker 3: It's extremely difficult, extremely difficult.

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Speaker 1: That's why taking him a chance on a player like

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Speaker 2: But I told you at the time, I said, oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: that's Tom Brady, that's Peyton Manning. Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 2: They're they're certified. Then you know, they they they they're approved.

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Speaker 2: But for a guy that hadn't had postseason success and

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Speaker 3: To think about it. Where they gonna get one from?

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, listen, you understand how difficult it is to

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Speaker 3: No, but he can he can help you compete week

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Speaker 1: Some of the teams that have been struggled for years

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Speaker 1: once you get one, just let him be, let him

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Speaker 2: They took Atlanta in twenty twenty one draft. They took

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Speaker 2: I know it's problem because he gets the ball so infrequently.

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Speaker 1: And he gets and I've never seen somebody score without

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta catch it. And I know, like

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Speaker 1: He came on night camp and talked about it. Damn.

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Speaker 1: It always have and and two things can be true.

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Speaker 2: what did they do, Oh Joe, They're like, okay.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like the guy that I had went

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yeah, you so how you go get in? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, me man, I'm sleepy, I'm tired. Hey, my

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Speaker 2: And then you know, he gonna give us our speech

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Speaker 1: And do we go we go get you know, a meal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Hey nah? Oh Joe, you see you remember the movie

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Speaker 1: Free Willing.

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, with the way they playing in general

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Speaker 2: Though George Pickings hopes his first season, it is not

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Speaker 1: George Pickens is second in receiving yards nine hundred and eighth.

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Speaker 1: He only got fifty eight catches. Yeah, he only got

432
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Speaker 1: fifty eight catches.

433
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: Man.

434
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: So that's that's letting you know. He's doing more with less,

435
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: you know. So let's start there now. George Pickens coming

436
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: back to Dallas. I like the idea. I like the idea, right,

437
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, Pickens ceedee lamb That Dak Prescott. We understand

438
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: how special, especially with him having a year remove going

439
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: to a second year on how special they can be offensively.

440
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: But I understand Dak has to get done again. I

441
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: understand that. I understand they'll they'll do Dak again. They're

442
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: not gonna let that know.

443
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: I think DAK number is damn there like seventy seventy

444
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: dollars cap here, So they'll REDODK again but probably give

445
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: him another four year, five year deal making like three

446
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars, and they'll give him, you know, at

447
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: the time of signing, they'll give him a hundred million

448
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: dollars and he'll get he'll get I mean, he got

449
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: guaranteed right now two hundred and twenty nine million, So

450
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: he'll get another deal, probably a two hundred and fifty

451
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: million guarantee.

452
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: But it is is Dak willing to take less to

453
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: make sure George Piggins gets what he deserves, to make

454
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: sure he get close to his value, because he's not

455
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna get anywhere near close to his value if he

456
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: stays in Dallas. I would love from the Stan Dallas.

457
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 1: He would be great there offensively and what he can

458
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: do based on what he's putting on display right now.

459
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: I love it. I love the idea. I just understand

460
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to getting your first contract, your first

461
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: big contract, most of the time unless you that guy,

462
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: like that guy guy they've already paid ce d Lamb. Yeah,

463
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, so based on where he is right now,

464
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: he would suppose to be. If he was elsewhere, he

465
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: would overlap ceede Lamb's contract. Correct, he would overlap it.

466
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: But he won't be able to do and get a

467
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: true value because he's staying in Dallas. So does he

468
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: want to take a discount and say, you know what,

469
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here, I'm gonna take less to stay

470
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: here in Dallas and be productive here, or do I

471
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: want to go somewhere else? Now, whatever he chooses to do, that,

472
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: that's on him. But I'm gonna have a conversation with

473
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: David Mulling Getta and we're gonna sit down and we're

474
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: gonna talk, and we're gonna see what type of plan

475
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna put together for a pick and see what's

476
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: best for him for r for see of your future. Now,

477
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy fans, I love y'all. I love with pick

478
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: bringing to the table, but don't be selfish. Don't be selfish.

479
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: You should want what's best for Pick two. Yes, being

480
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys, that's what you want because you're

481
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy fan. But what's best for George Pickens

482
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: his family and his long term Let's think about him

483
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: long term, you know, and being able to set up

484
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: not just his kids, but his grandkids kids, you know. Now,

485
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: if he can get that down in Dallas, I'm all

486
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: for it.

487
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: I think the thing is Joe they you know, they.

488
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: Do they redo that.

489
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: That'll take that'll take thirty million off the cap right there,

490
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: to make his cap, to bring his cap number down. Yeah,

491
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: they'll probably do something restructure, Uh, give CDs money and

492
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: assigning bonus. Yeah, gotta take more money off the cap.

493
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're talking.

494
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: So I think I could, I could. I see him

495
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: getting a deal somewhere five years, one hundred and eighty million. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay,

496
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: we're cooking. Okay, we're cooking. I can see we're cooking.

497
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Now. The problem is, now, see we thinking sensible, Yeah,

498
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: me and you thinking sensible. The chat, they thinking sensible,

499
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: especially any Cowboys fans that's in the chat. You know.

500
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: I love y'all too. I love y'all. Y'all. Don't think

501
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm hating. I love y'all. But and Jerry gonna think sensible, Yeah,

502
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: I think he is. He gonna think sensible. Now, we

503
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: know how Jerry Jones is when it comes to when

504
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: it's time to pay. You understand that. Now, if George

505
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: Pint gonna have the patience to deal with that bullshit

506
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Jerry like to do making you wait till the last

507
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: goddamn minute. I don't know. We understand the issues that

508
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones had with David mulli Getter in the past. Yeah,

509
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: is he gonna have the patience the one to deal

510
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: with the bull drive that Jerry gonna put him through.

511
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: So there's other dynamics that come into play. You know. Well,

512
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: what muller Getta might want to tell Pick man, Listen,

513
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: we ain't got time for this ship. Oh my bad,

514
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We ain't got time for this. I think

515
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: because Pick got an edge to it.

516
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Pick has a lot of on the

517
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: field and how he goes about his business on the

518
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: field has a lot of Michael Irbin in it. Yeah,

519
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: we know what Jerry thought of Michael. Yes, what he

520
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: thinks of Michael. So I think he would probably lean

521
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: towards probably getting something done. That's that that's going to everybody,

522
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: because he realized out he traded for Mingo.

523
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: Mingo ain't seen the field yet.

524
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this year, I think he's been a healthy scratch

525
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: the last couple of times. Remember they traded a fourth

526
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: round pick from to Carolina to get Mingo. He's finally

527
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: got a guy. He's finally got a guy. Yeah, that's

528
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: carparable to CD. It's hard to get a guy carparable

529
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: to your number one.

530
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah he can. He can fight him tooth and nail.

531
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: Big, great, great hands, make tough catches, tremendous run after

532
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: the catch, very good, big, big, big body receiver. Jerry

533
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: realized those guys don't grow on trees, absolutely not. And

534
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: we got him, and we got him.

535
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: In our home.

536
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: The best thing to do when you got him in

537
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: your home on your dusk, what don't let him leave.

538
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: Don't let him leave. Don't let him leave.

539
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: He's on pace for nine to our receptions fifteen hundred

540
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: and forty four yards in twelve touchdown. Dak is the

541
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: only team in the NFL this season to have featured

542
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: top five player in passing, rushing, and receiving yards. Dak

543
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: is field up in passing yards by Tay Williams, is

544
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: fifth in rushing yards.

545
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Pick is second in receiving yards.

546
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: Man, So think about all the offense they got and

547
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: look where they are because why the defense.

548
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just gotta pick it.

549
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: Up and we'll see, we'll see if they can replicate

550
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: what they did they got the Eagles. We'll see if

551
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: they can replicate what they did. They went out made it.

552
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: They let Michael Parkson. They traded Michael Parkson to get

553
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: Kenny Kenny Clark in Quinny Williams.

554
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: That's what Ada said. Look, we gotta stop the run Clark.

555
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: It's more of a run stuff for Quinny Williams can

556
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: play the run, but he's more of a pass rushing DT.

557
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: You got Clowney, you got Filed, you got Williams. You

558
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: got some guys that you got a Digga Zua that

559
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: you paid a lot of money to. He's still there.

560
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: So we're gonna see. We're gonna see the Eagles. We're

561
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: gonna we gonna see what the eagles. We're gonna see

562
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: what the eagles because they're gonna need You're gonna need

563
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: to stab to run you on the road. Yeah, see

564
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: a SA quad can get loose. Looks like Lane Johnson's

565
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: gonna be out. They're gonna have that back up in there.

566
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: We'll see. He says, Hey, I want to make a

567
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: name for myself. Lane Johnson is thatding stone. He is

568
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: what he is, one of the great UH lineman in history.

569
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Now it's my time to get an opportunity to show

570
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: you what I'm capable of.

571
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be very, very interesting. But anybody everything.

572
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what Jerry thought he was gonna be

573
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: when he traded for him, but he had to be.

574
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: He has to have been everything that Jerry had hoped

575
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: for and more.

576
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Uh uh we was there.

577
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: Ever a great a teammate that you thought to keep

578
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: on the team?

579
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: Man? TJ Man, Who's Who's that? You know? I hate

580
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: the dirty side of the business, but you know it

581
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: is a business. I wanted who's to stay? Yeah, you know,

582
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: I thought I thought that that that that that chemistry

583
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: we had and being from Oregon State and going from

584
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Orgon State being drafted to the Bengals. I mean I

585
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: wanted that continuity to the state throughout but the entirety

586
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: of my career, so obviously things didn't go that way.

587
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's about the only person. That's about the

588
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: only person. They ain't really asked me. They really they

589
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: really asked me. Uh.

590
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean, as I got older, I think once I

591
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: went there and and and and and and came back,

592
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: I think might value my opinion on what I thought

593
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: of certain guys.

594
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: But for me, a you make your own decisions.

595
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going home, and if I guess what and

596
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: when I come back in the spring for OTA's and

597
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: they here.

598
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: I guess they. I guess they moved on. Right.

599
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: Despite being eight and too and fresh off his Super

600
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: Bowl win, there continues to be a lot of negativity

601
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: surrounded the Eagles. A. J. Brown threw more gas on

602
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: the fire to day when asked about speculation that he

603
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: isn't the same player he once was.

604
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, let's take a listen to with AJ had

605
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: with that bull. I mean, there's speculation out there that

606
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: you are not the same player. What would you say

607
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: to those people? I guess that at the same player.

608
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, you see how the bull drives start?

609
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: You see how the bull they come up with that? Oh,

610
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: your production is not the same as it was before.

611
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: So now you're not the same player no more. Oh

612
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: now you lost a step. This is the game they played.

613
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: This is the game they play, this is this is

614
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: this is how they do this, how they do Hey,

615
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, ain't nothing wrong with that man. Man, you

616
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: can see you watch film, you watch the games on

617
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing wrong with that man. Why even see

618
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: the reporter be playing that's how she You know what

619
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: I would have swung on that reporter games.

620
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: But you see oo ojo, you see how you frame it.

621
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: What do you say to those that say that you're

622
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: not the same player?

623
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

624
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: What do you say about those that say you're not

625
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: the same hoping that he gets something? They got what

626
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: he wanted? Yeah, I guess ain't the same player. They

627
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: got what they wanted. Yeah, because the content, it don't

628
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: even matter the context. Yeah, y'all said, I'm not the

629
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: same player. Well, Kuan ain't got a fivesand yards rush.

630
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: Remember at this point in time last year he had

631
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: a five to yard exactly.

632
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: So, so so what why y'all didn't asking?

633
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Why are y'all not asking questions about him?

634
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: So y'all keep.

635
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: Coming, y'all keep coming to me asking me questions. But

636
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: if the run does the run game look the same?

637
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: Nope, show don't. So that means sa Quan lost it. No,

638
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with him, Ain't nothing wrong him. It

639
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with either. The reporters know that. But

640
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: then you know that the reporter gon go fishing every time.

641
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Now it's on the player on whether they catch that

642
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: bit or not. You're right, Joe. That's it, you know,

643
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: A J. Brown. He wanted them. He he gonna give

644
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: you what you wanted speaking his mind. Now, he gonna

645
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: every time. There was one other player just like that too,

646
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: that played that you know over there at that War

647
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: eighty one. Yeah, you asked him a question. He gonna

648
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: get you what you want every time, So be careful.

649
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: He ain't sugar coat nothing bad. Uh.

650
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: I just think the thing is now is that we

651
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: eighting too. Yeah, so what can we be critical of?

652
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: Ain't really anything you can be critical of because the

653
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: team's ain't too the number one end of it, the

654
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: number one team in the division. So let's go to

655
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: AJ Brown and hopefully he says something negative about somebody else.

656
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: That's all you gotta hold. That's all they're hoping for

657
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: now with ya.

658
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: That's it you said, Like you said, it's a fishing expedition.

659
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: Let me see how big. Let me see how big

660
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: of a fish I can catch. As matter of fact,

661
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: this is the thing too, right. The bait is the

662
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: way you wor the question. Yes.

663
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: The bait that the reporters use is the way they

664
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: word the question. I'm a word in this way and

665
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: say they say you know, we don't even know who

666
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: they is? Who is they? Is they watching film? Is

667
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: they not seeing what's going on? Yeah? We eight and two.

668
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: I've been complaining about they the whole time. They should

669
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: know what the problem is. And how about this here?

670
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: If whoever say that I'm not the same player, will

671
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: ask the opposing team why they could keep putting that

672
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: number one corner on me?

673
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: Then if I ain't what they.

674
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Say, if I if I ain't what you think or

675
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: what they say, I am. All I know is I

676
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: get roll coverage and I get their best that get

677
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: their best corner. They don't put their third corner on me.

678
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: They don't put the second and third corner on me?

679
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: Why not?

680
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: They say, I ain't got it no more? You're right,

681
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't throw me the ball and find out. Yeah,

682
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 2: that's the only way. I mean, that's that's all I

683
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: can tell you. That's all I got for you. I

684
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: ain't got nothing else to say. I really don't. Look,

685
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: y'all know how I feel about this situation. Yes, I'd

686
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: like to be a more active participant in the offense.

687
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I think if if all the receivers I think, you

688
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: look and I don't want to speak for anybody else.

689
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: But I think we all think that we could be

690
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: more involved and the offense would would flow smoother. If myself,

691
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: Davante Godter Johnson, if we became more involved. That's not

692
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: where we are right now. Hopefully that changes any more questions.

693
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: Good, that's it. That's all I got for Yojo. Yeah, yeah,

694
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: hey that that that's that. That's that good politically correct answer.

695
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, I thought about being politics. Hey I

696
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: still might might be perfect for politics right now.

697
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Politician. Okay, Okay, I like I said.

698
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: He with that being said, O Joe, No, I was

699
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: just like, hey, now we're not playing what you want

700
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: me to say.

701
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Man, you're watching the games. Yeah, we're not. We're not.

702
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: We're not playing well, and we're not good offensively.

703
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: No, who can you pick out and say, Okay, they're

704
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: doing an outstanding job offensively.

705
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: Bro We ain't scoring a touchdown in a month.

706
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: A month, but the professional NFL team has not scored

707
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: a touchdown. So there's enough blame to go around on

708
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: everybody offensively, from coaches to players, myself, the quarterback, the

709
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: offensive line, the running backs. There's no way to just

710
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: pinpoint to blame because one time we get a holding call.

711
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Next time we jump off side. The next time we

712
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: make a mistake, we do a minimal mistake. So there's

713
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: enough blame if we just and it's just not okay,

714
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: we get something going positive holding, we get something going,

715
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: then we have somebody with a minimal mistake.

716
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: So there's enough blame to go around. But at the

717
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: end of the.

718
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: Day, it's a point everybody on this offense that's in

719
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: that room and the coaches to figure it out. So

720
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. You think Cincinnati feeling

721
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: sorry for us? You think Tennessee feeling sorry for us?

722
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: You tell me the team that's on our schedule that

723
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: feel sorry for us, that we haven't scored a touchdown

724
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 2: in five weeks. No, nobody, So they not feeling sorry

725
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: for it? Why the hell we feeling sorry for ourselves?

726
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 2: Empathy is something someone else have for you. You can't

727
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: have it for your damn self. Oh, pold me, Oh

728
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: we'll stay over there. They were there, But ayja brot,

729
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: don't let them try to get you to throw to

730
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: try to throw a dirt on somebody else. Don't even

731
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: do it. Hey, y'all heard what I said. Idam said,

732
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: I don't really need to reiterate it. I've just been

733
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: saying this for the last year. I would like to

734
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: become more involved in the offense, not out of selfish reasons.

735
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: Do you see our passing game.

736
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: It's struggling and right now we're very dependent on the defense.

737
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: But at what point in.

738
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: Time do we get the captain carric that do we

739
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: have to do we get to earn our checks because

740
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 2: the defense is earning their checks every week.

741
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Every week. Right now, we're getting pre checks. M yep.

742
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: So aj Lady said he does not watch the otherwise

743
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 2: receivers doing rude in the NFL reporter to ask him

744
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: say why, his response it gets me upset. Absolutely now

745
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: this now he's talking my language.

746
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.

747
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: Ba Hey, listen, Unless unless you're being productive, unless you're

748
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: a part of the offense, weeke in and week out

749
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: and knowing that you're you're going to have those catches

750
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: and those opportunities. I'm not watching the others that are

751
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: getting them because I'm gonna get me mad. You think

752
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching film on Jamar and JSN and

753
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: George Pickens and Davonte Adams and they out there going

754
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: crazy weekend. If we get ten twelve targets a game,

755
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: five man, please, man, absolutely not. I don't want to

756
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: see that. Hell Na.

757
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: I was very poty, Like I said, It was like

758
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: it is now on Joe where they had we had

759
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: this influx of tight ends. But yeah, Ben Coach had

760
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: one sixty, I had had forty. Yeah nah, man, that

761
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: man aint no on hundred and twenty yards better than me.

762
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: U No, hell nah, I see Brent Jones or them

763
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: get Oh no, hell no. So I I one thousand percent,

764
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: one thousand percent.

765
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I am.

766
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm not watching, and don't let me and don't let

767
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: me you know, I'm playing one of those guys. Yeah, man, hey,

768
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: romo at man, don't y'all let that man come in

769
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: here and show you out in front of me. Don't

770
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: y'all let that man come in this house and show

771
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: out in front of me. Now, I'm just saying, don't

772
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: let that man come in this house and show out

773
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: in front of me.

774
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: Do what y'all aint, do what y'all do to me

775
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: in practice? Right? I like that. It's a good one.

776
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, come on, now, how how that is gonna look?

777
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: O yo, guns will come up in my house. Go

778
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: for a buck fifty. Now I'm on the sideline. Hell no,

779
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: hey like Tom see, I want to play with Tom

780
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: because remember that that game that Randy went off, Randy

781
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: had like two or three touchdowns. Excuse me, TiO, we

782
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: had a win off with that two or three touchdown.

783
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: He said, come on, Moss, he gave Moss for in

784
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: the first half. You good, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good.

785
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm real good. Kevin Petula and Sirianni are quite obsessed

786
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: with a hitch route. Ranking the most hitch routes run

787
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: per game Bill True Media. Dallas Goddard nine point four four,

788
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: Devonte Smith nine point one, A J. Brown seven point

789
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: five six. No other team has more players in the

790
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: top sixteen.

791
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: What I told you, what I told you the other

792
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: day about about the rock concepts, I can tell you

793
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: what I can tell you what A J. Brown. I

794
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: can tell you what Devonte Smith is running based on

795
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: their alignment and based on formation and definitely based on

796
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: down and distance every single time, every time. I don't

797
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: play for the Eagles. I love football. I'm not an

798
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: Eagle fan, but I watched the game. The fact that

799
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: I can still tell you what they doing. I don't

800
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: watch them every single week. I mean, I mean, if

801
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: if I know what's coming, you don't think the people

802
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: that actually watch film and get paid. Yeah, man, come on, man,

803
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't.

804
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: I just don't know how you expect to be effective

805
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: when you have this many guys at the top running hitches.

806
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: Really push the ball down the field. You got to

807
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: because if you don't, they gonna sit on top of everything,

808
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: which is which is why most of the shorten it't

809
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: means them intermediate routes keep getting knocked down. Why because

810
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: they are no thread for you going on the top

811
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: of it.

812
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: Hell nah, why am I backing up knowing you ain't

813
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: going no farther than ten yards?

814
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: I ain't even getting out of my back pedal.

815
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: That's why so many catch so many deep balls over

816
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: the top because he doesn't hitch them.

817
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: Hey, he just slanting them, hissing the death hissed.

818
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: And slam them to death. And they be looking like, oh, heck, no,

819
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: he over the top of you.

820
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: Now, Hey, is either the hitch, the slant or the

821
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: curl that's it? Oh, or maybe the cross of the

822
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: overus the over rock.

823
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: They a lot of over a lot of times where

824
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: they throw him the go ball, he's on the left

825
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 2: hand side.

826
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Yep, that's it. That's the extended the route treat for

827
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: them right there. Yeah.

828
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 2: It's like, and I know it's frustrated. It's frustrated because

829
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: you see all these guys. You see Jackson's, you see

830
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: js In, you see a Mecca, you see a Pookah,

831
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: you see Chase, you see all these.

832
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: Guys getting all the honey. I ain't getting another vinegar day.

833
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: We give me a number Vinago. Yo. Yeah, I'm salty.

834
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: And not only am I only Not only am I

835
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: only getting vinegar? They paying me thirty three million dollars. Yeah,

836
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: and the first thing they're gonna do is, well, man,

837
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't know your production slip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're

838
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: not the same. It seemed like you got lost a step.

839
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: We're paying you thirty three, but the production you're giving

840
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: us is like we're paying you twelve or ten. So

841
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask you to take a picer of what

842
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: m hm. I already know. I listen, I already know

843
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: the game they' finna play. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be

844
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: able do that. Guys. I wish I could. I wish

845
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I could help you out with your captain. Yeah, h

846
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: mm hmm.

847
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow made few steps in his recovery journey on

848
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: Wednesday by being named a full participant in Bengals team practice.

849
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: Excuse me, this is the first time that he's gotten

850
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: the designation since he suffered the turf toe injury in

851
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: Week two. Joe would need to be activated by December

852
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: first from the injury reserve to have any chance to

853
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: play again this season. Oh yo, your Bengals are three

854
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: and seven, yes, sir, three and seven, yeah, in seven

855
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: games to go.

856
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Is there a.

857
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: Scenario which you see if the Bengals were to lose Sunday?

858
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: Yes, sir.

859
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Is there a scenario where you see Joe being activated,

860
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: because if he's not activated by Junior streaking me December first, Yes,

861
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: that means he can't. I mean basically, he can't come

862
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: off and he'd be on there for the rest of

863
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: the season. Do you see a scenario where you guys

864
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: lose this game and him come off injury reserve?

865
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I think regardless, there is really no scenario

866
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: in this matter or in this case, whether we win

867
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: or whether we lose Joe Burrow, being the competitor that

868
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: he is, he would probably over ride any suggestions that

869
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: he gets from doctors, Uh, anyone that sits in positions

870
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: of power, in in that uh, in that in that

871
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: front office. And he's coming back to play whether we

872
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: lose it or not. I just knowing Joe Burrow, the

873
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: type of player he is, the type of competitor is

874
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: whether we have a chance to to get to the

875
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: playoffs or he can have want to finish the season

876
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: off strong and and and and make some of a

877
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: statement to show that he can still stay upright. He

878
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: can he can still be healthy, you know, regardless of circumstances,

879
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: whether we're going to the playoffs or not.

880
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 5: So he just you're just looking forward to them getting

881
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: back out there on the field. You don't, You ain't

882
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: really you don't really think y'all gonna make no playoffs.

883
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, Joe, Honestly, right now, I haven't really really

884
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: thought of the scenarios or the possibility of us making

885
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs at three or seven. I think it's very

886
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: very difficult, Joe. Honestly, I think it's very difficult. But

887
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: for me, uh, I would love for Joe to come back,

888
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: not even playoff scenario, but just the finish the season

889
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: off strong, finished the season off strong, getting you know,

890
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: get in there, do what you can strong. Yeah yeah, yeah,

891
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. From hold on, let me finish. I'm

892
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: not I'm not talking about I'm not talking about from

893
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: a team standpoint at this point when we when you're

894
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: three and seven. I'm just saying individually, all players need

895
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: to finish the season off strong from an individual standpoint

896
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: so they feel a little better about themselves going into

897
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: next year. Regardless of whether we we did well or

898
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: we whether we did well or we didn't, as a team.

899
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: We ain't no regardless, ain't no area right, regardless you regardless, regardless.

900
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: I said, I said, or regardless. Yeah, y'all were terrible

901
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were terrible, but finished

902
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: out on no good note. Okay, I said. That's why

903
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: I said individually, That's why the first thing I said,

904
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: even if even if we lose what we won't, which

905
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: you probably won't.

906
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: You gone to lose, take the ILF out. Take the

907
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: ILF out. First of all, y'all would losing with Chase.

908
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: Y'all losing with Chase.

909
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gown. Okay, now let's try again. Like I said,

910
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: someone someone who has a little optimism, Joe, I'm talking, Joe,

911
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you. I'm a little optimistic. Ain't

912
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: no telling what's gonna happen. I know Chase is not

913
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: playing this game. We got eleven weeks. You know what's

914
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: gonna happen. You know what I he Joe, I don't.

915
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like the way uncles treat

916
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: my bank. Hey O, Joe, I think y'all just need

917
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: to let you know what. I just want to take

918
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: my last bike. Take the last bike, Take take your

919
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: time talking.

920
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 2: I want to go ahead and finished against some food

921
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: on my stuff because I've been hungery. I had had

922
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: a couple of bents I had to go to that

923
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: I would get my last my lab right.

924
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: Now, take a time. Me and Joe got it, Me

925
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: and Joe anyway, Joe, Like I was saying, listen from

926
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: from an individual standpoint, Joe knowing how Burrow is, knowing

927
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: the competitor that he is, he's a liar, Hey, Joe,

928
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: he coming back to play, Joe regard regards to how we're.

929
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 5: Doing that, listy, But sometimes oh, Joe, you know we

930
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 5: can get in our own way.

931
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: Now the man been bogged down with and you know

932
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: that tod lingo bro. I know that, Joe. I know

933
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: I Joe. I know one thing. If Joe, if Burrow

934
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: ain't feeling one hundred percent, he not taking his ass

935
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: out there on that field.

936
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 5: Well then he ain't gonna play it. It ain't no

937
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 5: way here that toad gonna be one hundred percent.

938
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: Man. You listen, Yeah.

939
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 5: Let the man, Let the man heal up, and then

940
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: y'all get another crack at the next year.

941
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: If it don't happen next year, or Joe, you gotta

942
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: blow that thing up. Okay, Okay, I mean I like that, Joe,

943
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: but I me me honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing,

944
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: knowing how he is, he's sitting on that sideline, Joe,

945
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: if if he can go and then the think about it,

946
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: eighty eighty five, eighty seven, even a ninety percent Joe

947
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Burrow is better than half the goddamn league. It's better

948
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: than half the league out there, even hobble. So I

949
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: would like to see I would like to see him though, honestly,

950
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: just to finish it all strongest just so you feel

951
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: good about yourself in your head and when in the

952
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: back of your head it's like, well, god, damn, I

953
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: haven't been hurt three out of six seasons, you know,

954
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: and it ain't ain't been able to contribute to help

955
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: my team out. Man, shit knowing him. Man, I'm finishing this.

956
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm finishing this. Shit off.

957
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 5: Hey look, I'm sure he probably does want to get

958
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 5: back up. I mean he's making a lot of money.

959
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, O yeah, but Ojo.

960
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 5: Sometimes man, you know you gotta get in guys, wait

961
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: man and just tell them, Hey, look, we understand.

962
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know you want to play. Yeah, but you.

963
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: Probably need to sit the rest of this season. Now

964
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 5: we can get you right going in the next season. Hey,

965
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 5: many like that just playing football just to be finishing

966
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 5: the season and they mayn't get hurt again.

967
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Now come on now. Yeah, I mean, you're right. I'm

968
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: trying to help you' all. I'm trying to joe you Joe,

969
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: you're right, But I'm telling you how the individual is.

970
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: He's an animal, but he an animal, right, animal. I

971
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: just I just don't see any scenario where he can

972
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: gonna sit down, especially he was a full participant in

973
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: practice today. He was a full participant in practice.

974
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: See feel like tomorrow. Unless Joe Burrow will come back

975
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: as the combination of Miles Garrett and Laurence Taylor, y'all

976
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: ain't going nowhere. I don't give come back.

977
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: And we understand that part.

978
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: Joe, Miles Garrett and Lawrence Taylor, little Big the Deon Sanders,

979
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: Garray lewis in there.

980
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: So one of them he's gonna be right. I mean,

981
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: neither one neither one day. You have to understand that,

982
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: that's not the part we talk about. You got to

983
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: understand the type of individual Joe is. You got to.

984
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: You don't become the number one overall peak without being

985
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: a competitor. And that's also don't become somebody without being realistic.

986
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I understand that, Joe. I mean have you seen. Yeah,

987
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: that man ain't thinking about none of that. That man

988
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: ain't thinking about none of that. That man is thinking

989
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: about getting on that field, getting back healthy and trying

990
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: to contribute and finish the season off on a high

991
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: note for him in the village. So he feels better

992
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: about himself going into the off season. I'm telling you

993
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: how he thinking. I know it because if he wasn't.

994
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be no, no goddamn reason to be a

995
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: god damn price of today. Hey, Joe, he was. We

996
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: got something showing for you. What's that? What they bringing

997
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: the man? Look at look at they bringing it back? Joe?

998
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: Is that bubble rap? Y'all? Why y'all disrespect him a quarterback? Now,

999
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: don't know? Hold on, hold on, well you over there laughing,

1000
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: he bet he better than bo next down there in

1001
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: Denver right now. And he ain't even and and Joe

1002
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 1: ain't even not debating his skills set.

1003
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: We're not debating how good he actually is because excuse me,

1004
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: we know he's great.

1005
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: We're not debating that. I know. But hey, but hold on,

1006
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: the joke is just flying and he he and the

1007
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: ha ha and like like he ain't that boy?

1008
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: Don't you don't think that fit? You just said? The

1009
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: man been hurt three of his six years.

1010
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking facts. On his first year he got hurt.

1011
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: The next year he went through, Then he went to

1012
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: the then he went to a Super Bowl.

1013
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: Then he got his wrist hurt. Now he done missed.

1014
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: He missed the entire rest of that season, which was

1015
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: probably about eight nine games, now this is week twelve,

1016
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: so he's gonna miss that bare minimum, a bare minimum

1017
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: another ten games.

1018
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: Right? What the hell happened to my camera?

1019
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: You had like you had like we put this around

1020
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: Brett Farr Peyton, Come on that. You're talking about a

1021
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: guy that's been He missed ten games his rookie season,

1022
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: if not more. He's gonna miss ten games this season

1023
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: with his wrist injury. He missed the probably another ten games.

1024
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: So he's missed probably thirty games since he's been in

1025
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 2: the league.

1026
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: Right, I didn't. I didn't need you to detail all.

1027
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: That I need with Ojo. You know this. They gotta

1028
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: be available.

1029
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you listen, you're right, you are available? What good?

1030
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: What good is that? Man?

1031
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: I had the best feet, man, I had the best

1032
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: feet in the NFL. Yeah, but you played every other year?

1033
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you ready, you're right? But what you played

1034
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: every Sunday?

1035
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: I did? I did? I did? Hey Joe, Hey, Joe,

1036
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: you should have seen my feet Joey's thing right here, Joe,

1037
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I seen you cut the rug too, the

1038
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: thing right here, Joe? Yeah, hey them boy got a

1039
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: mind of the on boy, yet we already know.

1040
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen though, Joe Man, Joe had one hundred

1041
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 2: and fifty yards two touchdown, but they lost.

1042
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a line. That's a lie. Now,

1043
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. You long as you're saying, long

1044
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: as Oho gat he is? He was cool. No, No,

1045
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: I ain't, Joe. I'm not saying that I did everything.

1046
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: He wasn't happy about it. He just knew he would. Hey,

1047
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: you hot, he knew I gonna get mine.

1048
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I'm not in a situation where as a team

1049
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: we're good enough to win more than we lose.

1050
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: Joe, So I gotta do I gotta do my part.

1051
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: And Joe, my grandma always told me baby, in life,

1052
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: you can only do one thing. You can control what

1053
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: you can control and do your part. So Joe, I

1054
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 1: did my part. Now collectively as a team, I can't

1055
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: control the other ten people. I can't control the eleven

1056
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: people that's on defense. But I know what I can't control.

1057
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: I control me. I can control them feet that had

1058
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: a mind of their own. Hey, Joe, I'm the only receiver.

1059
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm the only receiver in the history of the game.

1060
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: They didn't pay me to play receiver, Joe. They paid

1061
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: me for my feet alone. I'm just saying, I'm just

1062
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: being honest to you. It's in my contract. If you look,

1063
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: I show you a copy of contract. It states we

1064
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: are paying him individually on what he's able to do

1065
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: with his feet. That's what they pay me. So you said.

1066
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: So you're saying when the dB lined up in front

1067
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: of you, he had no chance. Let prefer who you man,

1068
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: the devil is a lot Joe, I ain't play that

1069
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: up there. You get a don't ever get too close

1070
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: to me when we would have a conversation because I'm

1071
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna talk to you all the way through the route. Okay,

1072
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: huh yeah, Man, I ain't Joe. I ain't playing no game.

1073
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: Joe Hey, wordless age Joe.

1074
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: He was, he was in this he was in this band.

1075
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: O Joe is saying, really really good, But they ain't

1076
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: have no number one hits because they would let him

1077
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: sing lead. So if they let him sing lead, or

1078
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: they had more people like oh Joe in the band,

1079
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: the would have been really really could So in other words,

1080
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: he really need to play an individual sport where he

1081
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: just allowed himself because when you play football, you really

1082
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 2: gotta rely on the ten guys on offense, the eleven

1083
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: guys on defense, and the eleven on guy that they

1084
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: try out there every time on special team. Oh, Joe

1085
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: did his thing, but like he said, he can only do.

1086
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: He couldn't tackle nobody. He couldn't get no picks, couldn't

1087
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: sack the water back.

1088
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: Hey Joe, we had, we had some.

1089
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: Then they didn't get They got really good once they

1090
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: got they got caught. Well, kittdam wasn't bad Kidner threw

1091
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 2: for four thousand kid It wasn't no bad quarterback, but

1092
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: they was bad enough that they got They gotta ended

1093
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: up getting Carson Palmer with the number on the overall pick,

1094
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: and then once Canson got in there, they kind of

1095
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: took off from there.

1096
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey Joe, we were good, man. We listen, we

1097
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: had we had some. We had some up some down.

1098
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: Hold on.

1099
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: Let that look. I don't get I don't pat you

1100
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: on the back now. Yeah I was pat you on

1101
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: the back. I wasn't trying to be dust at your clothes.

1102
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Joe. He wanted me to

1103
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: be dust out of clothes. Now, Damn, I appreciate it.

1104
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 2: Could leave it at that, man, O, Joe was really

1105
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: good Oh Joe did all what nice?

1106
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: Now? You know I was a little something now, a

1107
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: little something to watch that. Yeah, hey Joe saying, you know, Joe,

1108
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: I could fill up a stadium by myself. Joe, I

1109
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: was like, you you gonna put on his shoulder now,

1110
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're gonna get that. You're gonna get that.

1111
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: When I was playing home a way, I'm gona for

1112
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: your stadium up.

1113
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: See, that's why I need to see. I need to

1114
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: be I need to be a couple of years, a

1115
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: couple of years younger, because he'd been talking to him

1116
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: on the sideline, talked it right out of the game.

1117
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: How you gonna take my script and try to use

1118
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: it on me? Oh Joe, you do realize that I

1119
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: was talking for you was born? What do you know

1120
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: where I'm from? Do you know where I'm from? Do

1121
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: you understand we start in pee wee pee wee optimists.

1122
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: That talking started at four years old. You wasn't doing

1123
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: that when you was fo you, when you was in Foe.

1124
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: You was out there in the country, you know, picking watermelon.

1125
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: You weren't talking like this. I came out to womb talking. Yeo,

1126
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: this is what I do. Hey, Joe, I'm telling you, Joe,

1127
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: right environment boy, I say you talking to right out

1128
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: of his game, Joe. I'm saying, y'all ain't never playing

1129
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: against each other.

1130
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey Joe, he was younger than me.

1131
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: Hey, don't matter, Joe. I spanked him when we played them.

1132
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: Every time Joe, I showed up to the party Brock

1133
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: with yeah that I was on. Joe, you was on,

1134
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: You was on the team.

1135
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: What you're talking about, Joe, we already say you had

1136
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: thirty something yards o Joe, that's all.

1137
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: That's what you mad. That's all. Yeah, I mean, because

1138
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm definitely saying I'm really not a thirty yard receiving

1139
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: from the.

1140
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: Fact that I was at thirty when you when and

1141
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: when you scored against the Broncos.

1142
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: Joe. I mean, oh, Joe, I was already at the game,

1143
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: the game was over. WHOA do you know you're not

1144
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: finna do that? Oh? No, the devil is a lot

1145
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: because you've been out the game now for twenty some years,

1146
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: and every time the bron gonna play.

1147
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: Talking about I was when the game that you played

1148
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: when I was with the Broncos, and the game you

1149
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: scored on you scored with like twenty seconds the game

1150
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: was over.

1151
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: I was on the headline, Draga kool a Bennett. Well,

1152
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: hold on, wait a minute, Joe, he a unk Joe.

1153
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: I think Unk might goddamnesia, because if I if I

1154
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: recall in two thousand and five against the Denver Broncos

1155
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: Monday Night football by when crazy, If I'm not mistaken,

1156
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: I retired, I was in the boot. I was in

1157
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: I was sitting at a desk. What does that have

1158
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: to do. You just said I only scored against the

1159
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: Broncos sat two decades. You just said I only scored

1160
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: in the Broncos in the last thirty seconds. That's not

1161
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: what I recall.

1162
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I said when I was playing all okay,

1163
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: okay with Shannon. I don't know what what you did

1164
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: after I left, but I'm saying I you know, you

1165
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: scored with like thirty five forty seconds left in the

1166
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: ball game. I done got my shoes off, I got

1167
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: on flip flops.

1168
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it sounds I got on sound.

1169
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: I got on showering shoes on the sideline. I done

1170
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: cut my tape off and everything, and you stealing there

1171
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: playing when you scored at the end, you were still

1172
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: look it up, Hey, j looking up.

1173
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: I think it was either two thousand and two, two

1174
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: thousand and three. Joe. Look, I ain't gonna lie to

1175
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: tell you. I remember like it was yesterday.

1176
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: He's calling, we don't beat the were beating the brakes

1177
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: off them.

1178
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: Try to celebrate. I never a Joe one thing I

1179
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: never do. I was always self aware. I was always

1180
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: self Pull it up. You heard me, Joe, you.

1181
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: Were self aware with that one, because I don't know

1182
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: why why I'm telling you know why you scored a

1183
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: touchdown and want to celebrate.

1184
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: Hold, I'm telling you how it was. I never do

1185
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: that a Joe unless we unless we're scoring first or

1186
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm scoring to tie. I never celebrate if I was

1187
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: scoring we were losing. Never never, that's to me, that's

1188
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: a lack of self awareness. And to me and myself,

1189
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: I look crazy because why the hell am I celebrating?

1190
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: Is none to celebrate for, and we're not winning the

1191
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: game or actually tying the game. So that's something I

1192
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: always kept win the game.

1193
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 2: With me, but said, well, whether oh three oh two,

1194
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think it might have been oh two

1195
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: o two.

1196
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: I gave y'all that work. That's all I know oh

1197
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: three oh oh, get it right as pull up three

1198
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: seats asked.

1199
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: When did all up? When did he score that touchdown?

1200
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: When did he score that touchdown?

1201
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, hey, hey Joe, you see you see ass

1202
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: put out to receive Joe, I got to.

1203
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: Get boy that business. But see what hello? This care

1204
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: was thirty to ten. He oh, this call was thirty

1205
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: to three. Kift the calories. He did all that hard work.

1206
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: He got some cardio in the first four and a

1207
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: half qualt three and a half poin.

1208
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: You just heard say I will giving y'all that work.

1209
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: You just heard ask't give y'all that work. You called

1210
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: a twenty three yard touchdown. The score was thirty to three.

1211
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: Wenna took our starts out. We ain't getting nobody who

1212
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: want no the starters run out the game. They weren't

1213
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: out the game because that which you're not gonna You're

1214
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: not gonna putt no backups on me. Not no, no,

1215
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: you're not no, you're not. I think the person if

1216
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, that was coming to me. He wore

1217
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: twenty four.

1218
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: He wore twenty four to me.

1219
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: The whole game. Who dealth O'Neill? No, no, no, Chap

1220
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: wasn't there when I was there? Old Hoe? Okay him

1221
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: after I was gone? Oh who wasn't? Who wasn't It

1222
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: was Deltha O'Neill. Well he got that work too. Who

1223
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: ended up playing with you in Cincinnati? And he got

1224
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: that work. Anybody with a two and they number got

1225
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: that work for years straight, except except Reeves. I'mnna give

1226
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: this credit, I think if I'm not mistaken. Who who

1227
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 1: you giving credit to? Oh? Res, that's it, that's it.

1228
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: And then listen, hey, Joe, No no, no, no, no, no,

1229
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: we didn't have Reavers. No no, no, I'm just saying

1230
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: I was telling Joe. Anybody with a two as their

1231
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 1: first number got that work for eleven twelve years straight. Joe,

1232
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: I seen you Reevers? Oh man, it was like a

1233
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: bad relationship that never turned out right, youar me? And

1234
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: how you get the Reavers out and couldn't get off there? Huh?

1235
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 4: Let me find out you was GILLAGAINI jo Hey, Joe,

1236
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 4: I got Joe coming to.

1237
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: Joe. I got stuff. Joe. I ain't have a passport.

1238
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: He in defense like that.

1239
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: Joe.

1240
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: Listen, hey, Joe, he was nice, Joe, he he was nice,

1241
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: he were nice. He was nice. I'm not gonna see

1242
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: him like I talked. I talked, I talked Cray, I

1243
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: talked cash Ship. But one thing i'mnna do, boy, when

1244
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: it comes to defense, I'm gonna get that with it.

1245
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: Give him his credit. And every time I see him,

1246
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: I give nis fly. That year he had a year. Man,

1247
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, everybody got it. Joe that two thousand and

1248
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: nine seasons Joe, that was. That was an historic run

1249
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: that will never be repeated, never be Every week he

1250
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: traveled with number one. I don't care a coach, I

1251
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: got it, don't even worry about this. And nobody, nobody

1252
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: will getting a hunted a hunted, shut down, shut down everybody. Johnson,

1253
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: Steve Smith, Andre john nobody got over with fifty boy.

1254
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: There's one person. There's one person who can sit was

1255
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: able to give reason that give reeves that business and

1256
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: give him problems. And that was Stevie Johnson. Stevie Johnson, Yeah,

1257
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: played played in Buffalo. He Joe. Stevie was about six

1258
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,959
Speaker 1: fold and moved like he was five ft tall.

1259
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean as far his ladder movement and is quick.

1260
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: You had to be quick to give him problems. You

1261
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: couldn't be a big receiver and be physical with him

1262
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: because his hands. Then you had to be quick. You

1263
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: had to be twitchy. Yeah, if you weren't twitchy, you

1264
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: you got You had hell on your hands.

1265
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: If you weren't twitchy,