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Speaker 1: It's off today. I have a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Our gossip. What time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time. Big story. At the top of

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Speaker 1: the show, there said no report at the Holder left

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Speaker 1: the Today Show after being asked to slash her massive

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Speaker 1: new bombshell report from Puck Financial Factors. They are saying

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Speaker 1: played a part in her decide in Holder decigning to

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Speaker 1: proposed a big pay cut for Holder, who is reportedly

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Speaker 1: so they say earning twenty million dollars a year. I

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Speaker 1: we ignore this whole report because they've got that detail wrong,

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Speaker 1: or can they be right about the pay cut but

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Speaker 1: But let's carry on to a sources telling them that

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Speaker 1: the network is struggling to justify these hefty salaries amid

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Speaker 1: the decline in TV viewership. That Today's show average is

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Speaker 1: about two point eight million viewers. Massive, but compare this

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Speaker 1: About ten years ago, the Today's she got five six

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Speaker 1: It's still great. TV has changed, hasn't it. We have

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Speaker 1: We've just changed the way that we consume it. So

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Speaker 1: all the shows, all of them, have seen their ratings decrease. However,

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Speaker 1: we're often applying an old formula to salaries, and so

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Speaker 1: even though the ratings have decreased significantly, the hosts are

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Speaker 1: that they don't deliver anymore. The reason the cast of

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Speaker 1: Friends all got a million dollars an episode is the

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Speaker 1: It's like when The Real Housewives pretend they yet a

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Speaker 1: We forget that, and the shows that stay on the

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Speaker 1: show is more likely to survive. So they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: cuts here, not just the Today Show. We know that

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Speaker 1: Gail King has resigned her contract at CBS, but she

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Speaker 1: took a pay cut, So what do you think here

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Speaker 1: this has happened to friends of mine. What do you

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Speaker 1: Meghan Markle's email rule has been exposed. So there's two

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Speaker 1: So Meghan fires off emails throughout the day, sometimes as

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Speaker 1: So she's saying, you work your normal work day. My

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Speaker 1: She's her mom. She believes that her staff does not

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Speaker 1: What about you? Do you expect people to respond straight

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Speaker 1: Middleton's come back is happening, but she may never return

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Speaker 1: wishing you the best, Kate. Oh this is a bombshell.

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Speaker 1: So now there's a new report that Savannah Guffrey might

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Speaker 1: following Herder's explosive announcement, rumors are swirling that Savannah might

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Speaker 1: I don't like these changes. When I turn on morning TV,

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Speaker 1: in the morning, when I'm in my underwear having a

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Speaker 1: I adore hold that. That's going to be a real,

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Speaker 1: real loss. But I say, do not lose Savannah too.

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Speaker 1: That would be too much change too quickly. I don't

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Speaker 1: like it. Give Savannah more money. If it's true that

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Speaker 1: and so no hold on to Savannah. Okay, quickly before

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Speaker 1: we get a break. Oh, this is a story. So

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Speaker 1: one of Diddy's accusers is saying there is a high

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Speaker 1: attorney for a new Diddy accuser says she has been

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Speaker 1: contacted regarding the sale of one of Diddy's tapes. She

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Speaker 1: would not reveal who was in the video, but said

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Speaker 1: Comb's is and someone more high profile, and yes, it

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Speaker 1: is a pornographic tape. She said the following quote. They're

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Speaker 1: already are tapes leaking around Hollywood and being shopped around,

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Speaker 1: but one in particular contacted me to shop around a

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Speaker 1: very particular video of an A list celebrity. Wow, this

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Speaker 1: is a bombshell. Well, everybody is saying, j Loo, I

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Speaker 1: was intimate with Diddy? Who was with Path and got

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Speaker 1: secretly recorded? The lawyer saying the person it's a female

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Speaker 1: if it is a secret recording. How despicable. Oh did

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Speaker 1: he Diddy? Diddy? I'm so disgusted, repulsed by all this news.

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Speaker 1: Normally a celebrity sex tape, it's quite something that I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in. Oh my goodness, it's it's titillations, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It piqued your interest, Not under these circumstances. If somebody

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Speaker 1: is so so wrong, And I hope all these tapes

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Speaker 1: are destroyed. We have no business seeing any of these tapes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Show on the heads of Rob Shooter. Hey, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the polls, DA DA DA. Last show we talked

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Speaker 1: about Holder quit in the Today Show after twenty six

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Speaker 1: years with NBC. A question was very simple, will you

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Speaker 1: miss her? Will you miss Holder? Let's have a look on.

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Speaker 1: Ninety percent said yes, I will too. I really like her.

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Speaker 1: She's one of the few people on TV that I

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying to anymore. I used to love watch

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Speaker 1: What Happens Live with Andy Cohn. I've gone off that

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Speaker 1: a little bit now it's on too late eleven o'clock

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Speaker 1: or so and so. Hold is somebody that I do

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Speaker 1: Kathie Lee was there. Oh wasn't it fun? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure about the new talk show hosts

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Speaker 1: like Sherry Shepp. I don't know what Jennifer Hudson. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I'm into them either. Has our relationship

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Speaker 1: with TV just changed? I think it probably has. But

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Speaker 1: you like me, will miss our dear friend Hoder? Okay,

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Speaker 1: for her Nicest of the Day, the Nicest of the Days.

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Speaker 1: Kate Middleton's brother James Middleton, he's given us an update

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Speaker 1: sort of on his sister's health in a new TV interview.

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Speaker 1: So Jane shared an update on how his sister Kate

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Speaker 1: Middleton is doing after she finished her chemotherapy treatment. He said,

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Speaker 1: on her behalf how she's doing. He treads very carefully here,

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Speaker 1: it will take time. This is a process. James is

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Speaker 1: very careful about his sister and I like this. Too

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Speaker 1: many celebrities, too many brothers and sisters are out there blabbing, blabbing, blabbing.

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Speaker 1: James is not He's very careful and not because he

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Speaker 1: wants to make sure he doesn't upset Kate. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that's part of it, but it's a deep respect. When

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Speaker 1: their sister, who was a middle class regular girl, and

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Speaker 1: just Kate's, the whole family. Everyone in the Middleton family

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Speaker 1: was now under this public spot like this really bright glare.

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Speaker 1: And James has suffered with mental health issues. He's been

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Speaker 1: honest about that. But when it comes to Katie knows

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Speaker 1: an answer saying, quote, she's doing okay, but then he adds,

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Speaker 1: it's not for me to share on her behalf how

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Speaker 1: everything is going. That is up to her. James, You're

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Speaker 1: a class act. And I'm nicest of the day and

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Speaker 1: now I'm Naughtyous of the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty.

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Speaker 1: Ellen Degenerous is our naughtyoust of the day. So she

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Speaker 1: has a Netflix special out. We've been talking about it

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Well now former staffers are saying it

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Speaker 1: miss the mark. So Ellen talks about her issues in Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: why she was fired, why her show went away, and

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Speaker 1: You're gotta rub your a rub, you got a rub?

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Speaker 1: A squirrel is just a rat with a cuter outfit.

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Speaker 1: Put on a cute outfit today because underneath our clothes

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Speaker 1: were all the same. We're all squirrels, were all rats,

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Speaker 1: were all whoever we want to be. But we are

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Speaker 1: the same. There is more that we have in common

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Speaker 1: despite if we were fab clothes, if we wear design shoes.

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Speaker 1: We still have feet, we still have legs, we still

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Speaker 1: have a halt, we still are human beans. Hey, that

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Speaker 1: is it for today. Thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to the Naughty but Nice with Robin nat show. You

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