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Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and with Lamar A.

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Speaker 1: D Win and Jonas Knox on.

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Speaker 2: Radio, how the hell are we feeling here on this

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Speaker 2: Friday morning?

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Speaker 3: Good? Yeah, feeling great. It's Friday, baby, It's Friday.

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Speaker 4: Feel a little bit better than Anthony Richardson at this

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Speaker 4: point or what hey.

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Speaker 3: Man, that's uh, that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: But also it's uh at this point and stage being

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Speaker 5: in the NFL, that just can't happen. And there's some

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Speaker 5: times where some things will surprise you. But that's one

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Speaker 5: where you go, Okay, you gotta see the rotation. You

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Speaker 5: gotta know what protection you've got. You have to know

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Speaker 5: if there's gonna be a potential of a guy being unblocked,

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Speaker 5: and in that case, you know.

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Speaker 3: He's looking left the whole way as as if he

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Speaker 3: feels like he should be protected.

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Speaker 5: The hard thing is is if you look at the

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Speaker 5: right side of the play, in particular the right guard,

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Speaker 5: right tackle, because that linebacker, they off the ball. Linebacker comes,

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Speaker 5: d n don't take the linebacker. But if he felt

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Speaker 5: that he was the first threat, then that's a different story.

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Speaker 5: But he's got to know that it only takes one

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Speaker 5: guy for him to be hot, for him to be

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Speaker 5: essentially in a position where someone's gonna hit you. This

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Speaker 5: fly route, had the spot route. You know, was wasn't

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Speaker 5: even looking to that side of the field. But you

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Speaker 5: know that as a quarterback because the rotation of the safeties,

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Speaker 5: you know, usually when the defense you know, is bringing

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Speaker 5: someone to press you or blitz you, they're going to

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Speaker 5: be you know, replacing the void that's created by that

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Speaker 5: tell you someone drops down to that vacated spot and

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Speaker 5: he wasn't looking there his eyes immediately from the rotation.

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Speaker 5: Safeties should have taught him to look there, to be like,

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Speaker 5: wait a second, something's up, and then quickly just flick

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Speaker 5: it out to the flat, throw hot, move on to

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Speaker 5: the next play. But instead he gets hurt and.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: That's been the story of his career so far. Crazy

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Speaker 5: thing is the tackle didn't look either.

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Speaker 6: Nobody looked at at the defensi end or a linebacker

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Speaker 3: He picked up the linebacker, He didn't pick up the end.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they nobody looked at him at all, And I

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Speaker 6: I think you gotta be aware of the free guy.

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Speaker 6: I mean a lot of times these days, you gotta

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Speaker 3: And it's taught.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's a very common concept, is to teach

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Speaker 6: that we're going to cover off on on taking care

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Speaker 6: of the most dangerous guys. You know, the guy's closest

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Speaker 6: free rusher and that free rusher may be a DN

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Speaker 6: you're trying to accomplish. It may set something else up,

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Speaker 6: setting that guy free you. Sometimes you want him to

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Speaker 6: not be aware of that. I I don't think he

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Speaker 6: it's their first preseason game. Do we just attribute it

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get into saying is there a

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Speaker 5: Bigger issues there is the norm well the Norman him

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Speaker 5: getting hurt, But the problem is that and this is

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Speaker 5: quarterback not recognizing when there's pressure how to handle pressure,

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Speaker 5: pressure and blitzes. Now, I mean, look, I'll give Baltimore

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Speaker 5: the snap of the football, the safety rotates back to

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Speaker 5: the middlefield safety rotates, the other safety rotates down to

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Speaker 5: vacate the space left by the blitzing linebacker on the

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Speaker 5: front side, the right tackle picks up the linebacker, the

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Speaker 5: ends free like that is you know, I mean again

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Speaker 5: kind of one oh one of how do you how

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Speaker 5: do you try to overload a five man protection? And

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Speaker 5: that's one way of doing it. But as a quarterback,

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Speaker 5: when you're going into year three in the NFL, you've

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Speaker 5: got to know this, like you've got to be able

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Speaker 5: saying that because that's how you're taught as a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: You you read the safeties at the snap of the

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Speaker 5: know if he's being coached that way, I'm gonna I'm gonna, well,

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Speaker 5: I'm willing to bet a lot of money's not knowing

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Speaker 5: Shane Steichen. So the next step is he's just not

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Speaker 5: He hasn't learned the way in which he's got to

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Speaker 5: because they make it hurt, especially at quarterback, this is

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Speaker 5: one of those examples. Guys will get hurt because they're

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Speaker 3: He'd be out for another week. I'll sa'd you a

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Speaker 6: If you're a if you're a coach, you've probably run

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Speaker 6: this set in a practice, right. You've got to be

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Speaker 6: aware of the fact that Anthony plays it the way

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Speaker 6: that he's playing it. I mean, I guess, are you

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Speaker 6: able to to stay away from plays that you know

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Speaker 6: he's insufficient at what he's supposed to do in that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't if I was okay, if I was putting

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Speaker 5: together offense for Anthony Richardson, I would not use many

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Speaker 5: five man protections. Five man protections because that's on your

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Speaker 5: offensive line, folks. Everyone else is free releasing. So you

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Speaker 5: got guys who are gonna look quick if people are

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Speaker 5: on you as a quarterback to then determine, like how

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Speaker 6: So it those three releasers was your tight end and

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Speaker 5: Well in that case, in that case it's you. It's

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Speaker 5: You should be hitting him quickly in the flat. The

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Speaker 5: spot routes is gonna be there quick too. Warren's running

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Speaker 5: like a corner route. That's your typical you know that

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Speaker 5: people call it spot, but that's your typical kind of

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Speaker 3: Zone beater and and use your flat controls what you

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, in this five man protection,

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Speaker 6: when you have those releasers and you have the back

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Speaker 6: hitting the flat as your safety valve, don't I mean,

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Speaker 6: don't you need to check like over like he never looked.

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Speaker 6: Don't you need to check and say, okay, this is

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Speaker 6: going to have at least my flat. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 3: The other He's reading the other side of the field.

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Speaker 6: It's like he was committed to what he wanted on

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Speaker 5: And one of the mistakes that quarterbacks make is they

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Speaker 5: They see something and they say, I'm gonna throw this route.

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Speaker 5: their mind up because they're just looking for completions, right,

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Speaker 5: they're trying to move the sticks. And the problem is

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Speaker 5: with that is then you forget about the protection. And

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Speaker 5: the protection always comes first because you can't throw throw

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Speaker 5: the football from your back. So that's that's oftentimes a

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Speaker 5: bad habit that quarterbacks make, especially as they're young or

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Speaker 5: the fact that Anthony Richardson has all the tools to

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Speaker 3: The problem is he's played so few games.

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Speaker 5: So you look at a play like this last night,

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Speaker 5: might get fooled by some different Boetz coverage, not by

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Speaker 3: I mean when you again, you and.

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Speaker 5: You have a five man protection, and the best thing

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Speaker 5: I can compare it to is like ride a motorcycle.

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Speaker 3: Without a helmet on. You feel vulnerable.

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Speaker 5: You're out there amongst traffic, amongst everyone else, and you're looking,

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Speaker 5: you're looking for any potential danger or some car that's

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Speaker 3: So you know, he's got to.

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Speaker 5: Be more aware of everything the defense is doing because

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Speaker 5: it could ultimately impact you know, hitting him or which.

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Speaker 3: Do yeah, which it did in this case.

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Speaker 5: But also just where he should go with the football

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Speaker 5: because then a five man protection, which I and I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't call him, I wouldn't call with him in there,

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Speaker 5: you don't have much time anyway, it's like five guys

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Speaker 5: protect against most likely four maybe five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, they dropped off the backside edge.

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Speaker 5: you drop off the backside end. I mean you're bringing

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Speaker 5: in an edge player. I mean, a Jabo should be

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Speaker 5: viewed as an edge player. You should not ever view

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Speaker 3: You know your right tackle should be on him.

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Speaker 5: The defense wins in this case because a they schemed

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Speaker 5: up the protection and b you have your right tackle

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Speaker 5: picking up an off the ball linebacker as compared to

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Speaker 5: a jabo, which if you're gonna hit by a quarterback,

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Speaker 5: you'd rather get hit by an off the ball linebacker,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson did talk after the game about the injury

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Speaker 7: And I was weird he hit. I mean then I

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Speaker 3: Like this gives Daniel Jones a huge leg.

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Speaker 5: Like the whether or not the sale actually happens is

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Speaker 3: And is aware of their their sales pitch.

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Speaker 6: You know, I had an opportunity to be in their

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you sus Factory, Can I tell you

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Speaker 6: Of course, you guys know he's lying because no, no,

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Speaker 3: That's just rude. They don't, I mean didn't not didn't.

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Speaker 3: Who picked them?

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Speaker 5: We go to the super Bowl the year? Did you

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Speaker 3: Is it Prisco? Prisco of Baltimore was the green.

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Speaker 3: That's what he's going. It's funny about that.

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Speaker 6: I would not be surprised if it is a repeat

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Speaker 6: I think Philly is going to be over the top

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Speaker 2: Look a look at the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Well, why you guys, right off San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: I told you, I've wrote I've written off San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why people are so high on them.

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Speaker 6: Long term feel like sometimes that is a little overstated.

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Speaker 6: Easy schedule, Like, Bro, there is no such thing as

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Speaker 3: They're all pro team.

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Speaker 2: If you got New Orleans on your schedule, that right,

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Speaker 6: The problem with with bad organizations that those types of

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Speaker 6: But they can't beat anybody else? You don't know. You

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

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Speaker 6: I don't get why every like I don't think Brock

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Speaker 3: He didn't do it. He didn't pass that test.

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Speaker 6: They weren't a great team last year, and by all indications,

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Speaker 5: Okay, they get Robert Sala back. I mean, are we

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Speaker 3: Healthier, Well, they're healthier. They were pretty good when he

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Speaker 6: They were pretty good when he was there, But I

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Speaker 6: So high on the Niners because I'm out, Like, I'm

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Speaker 5: So obviously healthy Christiancca, he's back. So remember he missed,

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Speaker 5: So if they get that out.

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Speaker 2: Remember he got shot shot right right.

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Speaker 3: Jwan Jennings is still there, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Sure it's Haunds the Ayuke deal and he's there, but

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Speaker 5: But if he if he you know, he stays, you

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Speaker 6: That's one. And I don't wish any ill on anyone.

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Speaker 6: I don't wish him to get hurt. That's not me

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Speaker 2: But if you can make money on it, at the table.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, if it's a bet, I'm taking that bet.

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Speaker 6: Then can Trent Williams stay healthy? Those to me are

441
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Speaker 6: the two singular most important pieces to this team and

442
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Speaker 6: what they do this year. And I do not have

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Speaker 6: a full amount of confidence that the health of those

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Speaker 6: two will stay intact for an entire season, or even

445
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Speaker 6: long enough for them to get through a major bulk

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Speaker 6: of the season. I just think they get banged up,

447
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Speaker 6: and I don't think this is the same team when

448
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Speaker 6: they're when guys are banged up.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not high on them. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just I'm just not high on the Niners. Well,

451
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Speaker 6: this is what I do know. Well, you know that

452
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Speaker 6: we can see, we can see Q is perfect time.

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Speaker 2: Fay come on, yeah, come on, let's go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, put my finger back in.

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Speaker 3: What's what's come on to the ball.

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Speaker 6: Let's feel me in, fill me in, fill me in,

457
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Speaker 6: kill me in, Come on, come on, come on, all right, Mark,

458
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Speaker 6: come on.

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Speaker 3: Come on, let's make let's make you mad. Let's make

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Speaker 3: you mad. Let's let's let's switch to the other version.

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Speaker 3: Let's don't you let's let's do it every ere we

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Speaker 3: go night. It is a.

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Speaker 3: Rock them sockom football back. Yeah, stike it you big

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Tyler Warrens alma mater, Penn State, so apparently

481
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Speaker 4: the complaints are back. Ross Buork, the athletic director for

482
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Speaker 4: Ohio State, was on recently Here we Go.

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Speaker 2: All Sides and I wait to hear.

484
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Speaker 4: He was asked a question about what things could look

485
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Speaker 4: like for the blackout game for Ohio State, and the

486
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Speaker 4: conversation turned into this.

487
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Speaker 5: Also planned to do a blackout game versus Penn State.

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Speaker 2: So you're asking everywhere to wear black.

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Speaker 5: Does that mean it'll be a night game?

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Speaker 2: I think we know you're signed.

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Speaker 8: I think we know the buck Eyes drive big noon kickoff.

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Speaker 8: That'll be a high powered game. So I think we

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Speaker 8: probably know what's going to happen around game time for

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Speaker 8: that one.

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Speaker 2: What do we what do we know?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean.

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Speaker 2: It'll be at noon, it won't be at night.

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Speaker 8: Fox, Well, they love the Buckeyes and big Noon is

499
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Speaker 8: a big deal, right, They've invested in that that time slot.

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Speaker 2: So I think, okay, you don't want to you don't

501
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Speaker 2: want to answer.

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Speaker 8: We'll presume it's a big noon. It's a twelve noon kickoff.

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Speaker 4: So Buckeye fans aren't thrilled with the prospect we're going

504
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Speaker 4: to make a blackout game at during the day, at

505
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Speaker 4: noon Eastern time. So here we go again, usual complaints

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Speaker 4: about the stage and the platform.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, this has so here's here's.

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Speaker 5: What I'm not going to do, all right, So this

509
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Speaker 5: is only a piece of the interview. I think this

510
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Speaker 5: is part of the issue with the media is we

511
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Speaker 5: get a clip like this, we react like this, we

512
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Speaker 5: don't listen to the whole thing. Ross Byorke went on

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Speaker 5: to say, we spent a lot of time working with Fox,

514
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Speaker 5: work with a big ten to understand. Look, we know

515
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Speaker 5: we've chosen. We're chosen for a big neon kickoff.

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Speaker 3: We know it.

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Speaker 5: Our brand is the biggest brand, we have the most viewership,

518
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Speaker 5: we have the biggest fan base. We've carried their window

519
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Speaker 5: in that noon kickoff. What we're asking for is just

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Speaker 5: a little more flexibility. York said, why does every one

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Speaker 5: of our new games have to be at noon?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: But the TV contracts, the way they're laid out is

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Speaker 5: Fox has the first They own the noon window. They

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Speaker 5: don't own a night window, they don't do a three

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Speaker 5: thirty window. They have the first pick. And then it

527
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Speaker 5: goes to the pulling of NBC and CBS and the

528
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Speaker 5: big ten network. CBS owns three thirty, NBC owns seven thirty.

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Speaker 5: There's not flexibility within that. Fox can't just say, hey,

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Speaker 5: for this game, we won a seven thirty window, and

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Speaker 5: for this game, we want a three thirty window. So

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Speaker 5: the lack of flexibility that is kind of built into this,

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Speaker 5: to me, that's the part we have to do to

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Speaker 5: chip away at.

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Speaker 3: So that's the full quote.

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Speaker 5: So when you hear it in context, ros Biork is

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Speaker 5: saying exactly what I've told y'all, and I've told fans

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Speaker 5: and I've told people who are frustrated by this. This

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Speaker 5: is a byproduct of a Big ten media rites deal

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Speaker 5: that Kevin Warren, who was the commissioners now with the

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Speaker 5: Chicago Bears, structured. This is a deal that every Big

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Speaker 5: ten school agreed to. And this deal because the noon

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Speaker 5: kickoff has been so successful and has dominated that noon

544
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Speaker 5: window of all the windows up until last year was

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Speaker 5: the first year where ESPN, ABC one in the primetime

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Speaker 5: window that has allowed their schools And this is you know,

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Speaker 5: based off numbers that I'm getting from twenty twenty three

548
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Speaker 5: and twenty twenty four, it's allowed Big ten schools to

549
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Speaker 5: profit anywhere between ten to eleven million more per year

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Speaker 5: than the SEC schools. And that's if you look at

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Speaker 5: the past two years, o High State won the national championship,

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Speaker 5: Michigan won the National championship. Penn State's playing in the

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Speaker 5: semi final. There's a reason that gap between the Big

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Speaker 5: Ten and the SEC continues to grow, with ten million

555
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Speaker 5: more infused every year that the SEC is not getting

556
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Speaker 5: from its media rights deal. Why because they have just ESPN.

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Speaker 5: The Big Ten has three different networks who've paid a

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Speaker 5: premium you could say, for what they're getting. And so

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Speaker 5: because of that, it's allowed those Big Ten schools to

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Speaker 5: have more cash or cash to be spent on all

561
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Speaker 5: sorts of other things. I'll let your mind wander there,

562
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Speaker 5: but it's allowed them to be more competitive. So people

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Speaker 5: can complain about the noon window. I mean, at least

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Speaker 5: if you're a Penn State fan, it's equal rights. You

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Speaker 5: got Ohio state of Noon last year. Now the state's hosting.

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Speaker 3: You this year. So there you go. That's what I

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Speaker 3: was thinking.

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Speaker 4: Like Ross Piorg, I never I didn't take any offense

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Speaker 4: to what he said. I didn't think he was being

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Speaker 4: pissy about it. I didn't think I think he was

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Speaker 4: just telling it how it is. I don't understand there's

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Speaker 4: the two biggest pregame shows in college football are big

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Speaker 4: noon kickoff in game day period, not even close.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know if there is another one.

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Speaker 4: If one of those comes to your school and puts

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Speaker 4: on their show and brings it to the show, that's you.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that and that, and.

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Speaker 4: That's the part that irritates me is that the complaints

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Speaker 4: of well, you know, we want to be on later listen.

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Speaker 2: I get all that.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's gonna, you know, affect your plans the night before.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you're gonna have to cut trick or treating a

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Speaker 4: little bit earlier the night before and come out in

584
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Speaker 4: November first for a blackout game during the day. But

585
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Speaker 4: how much good big noon kickoff and game Day has

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Speaker 4: done for programs in schools around the countries for decades now,

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Speaker 4: For some reason, they're fixated on this thing and they're

588
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Speaker 4: complaining about it, and I just I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand. I know, yeah, we want to be

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Speaker 4: at night, we want all this. There are schools and

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Speaker 4: programs around the country that would kill for an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to be featured on that stage, on that platform. And

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Speaker 4: given that opportunity, and all they've done is complain for

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Speaker 4: the most part with that, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Say it though, a night game of a game of

596
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Speaker 6: that magnitude is fricking ridiculous. I mean, just speaking from

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Speaker 6: the other side of it, a night game with potentially

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Speaker 6: that's going to be probably one and two something to

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Speaker 6: that effect by the time we get to that game.

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Speaker 2: Tough balls.

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Speaker 4: Hey listen, I were black all the time during the

602
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Speaker 4: day at night works both ways. Who cares, it's not racist.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying a night game, for that type of

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Speaker 6: a game is like I can understand it for the

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Speaker 6: idea of what the experience represents for them. You get

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Speaker 6: the tailgate all day, most people are are very very

607
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Speaker 6: lubed up by the time the game comes around. Some

608
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Speaker 6: people don't make it to some people don't even make

609
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Speaker 6: it to the game. Some people don't make it through

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Speaker 6: the tailgate, but come back ready for the game. I mean,

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Speaker 6: there's all kinds of different things that take place for

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Speaker 6: night games, but for one as big as this, when

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Speaker 6: you're able to create that environment. And I'll be the

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Speaker 6: first one to say, a day game, a day game

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Speaker 6: white out does not even come close to what a

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Speaker 6: night game white out game is like energy wise, for

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Speaker 6: whatever reason it is doesn't even come close. I mean,

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Speaker 6: and all our white out games are pretty freaking awesome,

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Speaker 6: but the night games, it just it hits different, that's all.

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Speaker 3: And it is what it is. The business of it

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Speaker 3: is the business of it.

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Speaker 6: But I can understand where a fan that doesn't get

623
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Speaker 6: involved with all of the minutia that surrounds, all of

624
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Speaker 6: the TV deals and all that stuff that they really

625
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Speaker 6: don't need to concern themselves with at a bare minimum.

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Speaker 3: I'm a fan of the game and I love it.

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Speaker 5: But also I think it also differs depending on your perspective.

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Speaker 5: Like in Penn State Beaver Stadium, night games are big

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Speaker 5: as the white out right, and that's always been a tradition.

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Speaker 5: It's always been a big deal for Penn State. The

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00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 5: biggest game in Ohio state schedule has not ever been

632
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Speaker 5: a night game. It's Michigan. It's Michigan. That's always traditionally

633
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Speaker 5: been an early game, early kick. You know, Notre Dame,

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Speaker 5: all our bigger games were three point thirty. They weren't

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Speaker 5: night games, at least not at home. So it all

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Speaker 5: depends on their perspective of it. Now a lot's changed

637
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 5: in college football because of stadium renovations. Now Notre Dame

638
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: is able to play night games because they have a

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Speaker 5: light system.

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Speaker 6: That's us too, but that's Penn State as well. State

641
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 6: did not have lights. They put lights in specifically to

642
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Speaker 6: be able to do for ye for these night gets.

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Speaker 3: We're white out. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And look, that's what I'm saying is the bulk and

645
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: majority of regular season games have always been played earlier

646
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Speaker 5: in the day. That's more than the tradition of college football.

647
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: That's typically been the history of college football. So it's

648
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: funny to me that like I remember, like being younger,

649
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: going up whether it's to Columbus, to Ohio State or

650
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Speaker 5: Notre Dame, and like to be kegs and eggs. Like

651
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: people would be, you know, out partying in the morning

652
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 5: everything else and they'd be doing keg stands, like while

653
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: someone's on a griddle making eggs and like egg sandwiches

654
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Speaker 5: and stuff, and they're going, this is nuts, this is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't I didn't think this thing like.

656
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Speaker 5: Existed, and like somehow, some way, like it's all transitioned

657
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Speaker 5: now where it's like kids don't.

658
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't really party like that anymore. You know.

659
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 5: It's like they like want to kind of go late,

660
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 5: and then I create viral moments that like night or something.

661
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 5: I don't know, the whole thing is just completely flipped.

662
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 5: But Here's the reality is no one's like we're all

663
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 5: in her standing of what comes with a night game.

664
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Speaker 5: And again it's not like Fox didn't try to move

665
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 5: that game. Like week one, they've tried to move to

666
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 5: Sunday night in primetime. Texas didn't want to do it.

667
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: You know, They've talked to some of the partners. They

668
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: want to do it.

669
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: They are making like you you heard me read the quote.

670
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: From ross by Orke about trying to change some things.

671
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 5: There is some movement there. There's some things that are

672
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 5: going to be worked on to be changed in the future.

673
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: But it's not out a lack of effort. It's just

674
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Speaker 5: out of a lack of the deal that's been signed

675
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: so far. And I think that's the tough part is

676
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: once you understand, you know the business and the parameters

677
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: of it, it is what it is and you have

678
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 5: to lean into it and known it and realize that

679
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: you know, it's still allowed the Big ten to be

680
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 5: more successful than the SEC, which is the ultimate goal.

681
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 5: It's just unfortunate for a High State fans. They had

682
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: to play i think last year, like six noon games

683
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 5: in a row, you know, and then you look at

684
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: the House State Penn State game. I mean, one of

685
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: the things that no one factors in is Fox happens

686
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 5: the air the World Series. So like Penn State fans

687
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: are upset lilast Year, and and like people at Fox like,

688
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 5: well we have Yankees Dodgers and you want us to

689
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: tell Rob Manfred, Hey, do you guys mind the first

690
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: pitch being at like you know, one pm, three thirty

691
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 5: for the World Series? But how's that conversation gonna go?

692
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 5: It's just not realistic. So there's there's obviously, you know,

693
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: battles that you you know, you gotta pick and choose

694
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: your battles, and this is one that it's being worked

695
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 5: on behind the scenes. There will be changed in the future.

696
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 5: This is not gonna be changed for this season. I mean,

697
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 5: you're gonna be there, bar Oh, I'll be there. I'll

698
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: be there for certain And.

699
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: By the way, that is World Series time, uh, And

700
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: that they based on what I'm seeing, if there's a

701
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: Game seven of the World Series, it would be on Saturday,

702
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: November first, So I can assure you they're probably not

703
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: swapping out Penn State Ohio State if there's a Game seven,

704
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: you know, if it gets that far though.

705
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: I mean it.

706
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: And the problem is, I think I tried to say

707
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: this earlier and I was I was wrong. The World

708
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 5: Series outrated Ohio State Penn State last year and has

709
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 5: traditionally outrated that game. So even even smaller market games.

710
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: I went back through like the last ten years of

711
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 5: World Series games and they all have outrated the Ohio

712
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: State Penn State matchups. So it is what it is.

713
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 5: How much i'd like to think, I think by a

714
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: few million. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's the World Series.

715
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 5: It's the pinnacle of you know, major sport.

716
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: And plus the Cubs have a strong fan base, so

717
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of people tuning in.

718
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see the Brewers in there. It's

719
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: you can't win your division, I.

720
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: Wouldn't worry about really going to get to the Worlds.

721
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't worry about the Brewers. We know how the

722
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: history of the Brewers goes.

723
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 3: That made me fine.

724
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, if you if you don't win your division, LeVar,

725
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 5: do you think that you've got a really.

726
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: Good shot at going to the World Series.

727
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: Well as history would show it in terms of in football,

728
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 6: I mean, you know what you did it last year?

729
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: They didn't win their conference, but they won it, won

730
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 6: a big ten, I mean, won the national title. So

731
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 6: I don't know how it works in baseball, but you know, hey, Wildcard,

732
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 6: it has happened in football. Wildcard Team's going heaters.

733
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of two Pros and

734
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

735
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

736
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: We do have something to look forward to in the

737
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 4: NFL when it comes to the preseason. It was confirmed

738
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: that Travis Hunter is going to get opportunities going both

739
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: ways against the Pittsburgh Steelers. So he's going to play

740
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: some offense, He's going to play some defense. I will

741
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: say this about you know, Deon Sanders and the Colorado

742
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: experience and experiment that they put together there. He does

743
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 4: have maybe two of the most interesting storylines at least

744
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: in the preseason opener. Want to see how this plays

745
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: out for Travis Hunter, want to see how it plays

746
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 4: out for Shador Sanders.

747
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Both from Colorado.

748
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 4: So we're going to get to at least see Travis

749
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: Hunter try and get out there, play on offense and

750
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: play on defense, and to see how this experiment works,

751
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 4: so that's.

752
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Going to be enjoyable.

753
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: Also, Patrick Mahomes is expected to play this weekend in

754
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 4: the preseason.

755
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not.

756
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: Trying to say that this is why, but it is

757
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: interesting that the two best quarterbacks of the last decade,

758
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes always play in the preseason.

759
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: Right.

760
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 5: It's well in Kansas City has not struggled with fast starts.

761
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 5: You know, we talked about the Bengals and their struggles

762
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: with it, and in large part because I mean you

763
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: can go back to Joe Burrow back at Ohio State,

764
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 5: you know, having issues in the spring staying healthy, but

765
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 5: obviously in training camp, you know, being able to stay

766
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: healthy before the season. So since that is trying to

767
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: do everything they can to get off to a fast start,

768
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 5: because even though you play seventeen games, you know, it's

769
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 5: still only one or two games that can be the

770
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: difference for them last year and unfortunately it was the

771
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 5: difference for them being a playoff team, and you know,

772
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 5: those early games matter.

773
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Speaker 3: There's kind of a thought where you know, hey, you've

774
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: got the slow start, you can pick it up.

775
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 5: The games in November December, the ones that matter the

776
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 5: most it's like, well, those games in September end up

777
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: coming back to bite in the ass a little bit.

778
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: So I completely get it.

779
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: As a quarterback, it's there's a sense in and it's

780
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 5: kind of like a like boxing too, Like you know

781
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 5: you're gonna get hit when you go in the ring,

782
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 5: but you take that first hit, it's like, Okay, you

783
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 5: gotta get that adrenaline drop.

784
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: You get it, get it over with.

785
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 5: With quarterbacks, it's very similar to you know, you're never

786
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: gonna go through a game where at least I would

787
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 5: say ninety nine percent of the time, you're not gonna

788
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: go through a game where you don't get touched. I mean,

789
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 5: if you're fortunate enough to play behind an offensive line

790
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: like that and have a game like that, that's great.

791
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: But you know, you are trying to get a sense in,

792
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: a feel for you know what the timing is going

793
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 5: to be like in the pocket, What what that day

794
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 5: is going to look like navigating the pocket? You know

795
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: how much time we're gonna have, is our O line

796
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 5: gonna be able to you know, actually stand up to

797
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: this group upfront or not? And to get a sense

798
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: for that internal clock when you got to go and

799
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: oftentimes you know, playing some of those games in the

800
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: preseason game starts to get you into that flow a

801
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 5: little bit better, you know, even something just battling through

802
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 5: the soreness. You know, you take a few hits. In

803
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: the next week, you're going through practice and getting used to,

804
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 5: you know, callousing, you know, to some of the sort

805
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: ofs that you that you face, still having to work

806
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: practice prepared for the next week.

807
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 6: It's necessary evil, I would if I were ever a coach,

808
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 6: the whole I don't want to get a guy hurt

809
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 6: or get a guy injured in preseason. My whole thing

810
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 6: is it's a necessary evil to get your guys good

811
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 6: game reps. Now, I'm not going to play you no

812
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 6: entire game. I might not even play you more than

813
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 6: two series, but I'm gonna give it two to three

814
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 6: series with all of my players pretty much every single

815
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: preseason game. Now that there's not three.

816
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: Did you guys feel more prepared for week one of

817
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 4: an NFL season that there's not four? Did you guys

818
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: feel more prepared for week one of an NFL season

819
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 4: or week one of a college football season.

820
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 5: The NFL, Yeah, you have preseason, you have training camp.

821
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: College You're like, I don't even know how good we are.

822
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 5: You know, like you're working through the kings, then you

823
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 5: could be beating the crap out of your defense. You're like, damn,

824
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 5: our offense feels pretty good. Or times if you're struggle

825
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 5: against your defense, you're like, all right, maybe our defense

826
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 5: is good, Like you really don't know.

827
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: I remember our.

828
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: Senior year because we you know, we ranked like two

829
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 5: or whatever. It was going into week one and we

830
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 5: go down play Georgia Tech and it was a battle, man.

831
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, uh Tanuda, their defensive coordinator brought

832
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 5: a ton of pressure, a ton of blitzes, and you know,

833
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 5: we were able to escape with a win, but it

834
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: was a tight game. And afterwards, like we dropped in

835
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 5: the polls and I was like, well, I don't know

836
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: how I think Georgia Tech's okay. They ended up playing

837
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: an a SEC championship game that year, But I just

838
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 5: remember thinking to myself, like, that's part of the issue

839
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 5: is you don't know until you get out there and

840
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 5: you go play. It's it's entirely different in college. I

841
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: just feel like pros give you a false sense of

842
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: either we're good or I don't know how good we

843
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: can be because the preseason doesn't. It's not a real

844
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: sample size of how good a team is going to be.

845
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 5: I played on a Steve Spurrier team that we went

846
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 5: undefeated in the preseason and we won five games that year.

847
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 5: You know, it just didn't. It did not correlate to

848
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 5: what we were going to be in the regular season. Now,

849
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 5: I will say again, if you're playing your starters in

850
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 5: the preseason, and if it was like the old school

851
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: way of doing it, where by the third game, if

852
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: you can play into the second half of a game,

853
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: you're ready for a real football game. I think the

854
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: idea of it, which, by the way, I don't think

855
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 5: pros condition and strength train as intensely and as really

856
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 5: like I guess as much as you're forced to do

857
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: it in college, I think you're in better condition if

858
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 5: it's just based off of your college strength and conditioning

859
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: program versus PRO. I think PRO is a little bit

860
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 5: more laid back, it's a little bit more I think

861
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 5: it's guys have to take on the personality of what

862
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 5: that strength and conditioning room is going to be like

863
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: by by team is what I would say. But college

864
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: you don't really have a choice, like it just it's different.

865
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 5: It's very I think it's way more intense in college

866
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: condition pro to your point, pro is the only thing

867
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 5: guys worry about is the conditioning test, and it's gonna

868
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 5: be and only because you don't really do anything in

869
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 5: OTA's mini camp that is along those lines.

870
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: And for some.

871
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 5: Reason, either the coaches or I don't have the strength

872
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: coach in the NFL, they have this idea that you

873
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: need to pass something in order to prove that you

874
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 5: are prepared to play football. Meanwhile, what you're doing to

875
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: prove you're prepared to play for football is yeah, but

876
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 5: the running the running test isn't like the three hundred

877
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 5: yard shuttle test is in no way applicable to playing

878
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 5: the game of football. True, you know, there's other tests

879
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: and things that teams do now because they've realized that

880
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: over time. But that would used to be like the

881
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 5: biggest concern from a strength training conditioning standpoint, at least

882
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 5: you know in regards to if you compare it to college.

883
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 5: But uh, it's I think the thing about the pros

884
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: to your point about it being not always the best indicator,

885
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 5: at least in preseason, is because no one's game planning

886
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 5: and on top of that, there's just more parody in

887
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 5: the NFL. So, as you pointed out earlier, like even

888
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 5: the worst team can beat the best team on any

889
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 5: given Sunday because the margins aren't as big as we

890
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 5: make them out to be. In college football, the margins

891
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 5: between the best and the worst is much wider. You know,

892
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 5: there's there's so much greater between the teams that have

893
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: all the talent the teams that don't. So the expectation

894
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 5: the way you can, you know, kind of go through

895
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 5: certain you know, weeks games to beat teams.

896
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 3: You could use your.

897
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 6: Different NML and you could use your second third team

898
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 6: to win those games. In reality, and in some cases,

899
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 6: in some cases you could use your second and third

900
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 6: string to win games. You're using your first string so

901
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 6: that they get their impactful reps and you can figure

902
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 6: out your timing and figure out what you are with

903
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 6: live reps. And that's why you don't you know, that's

904
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 6: to me, the idea of changing formats around where you

905
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 6: play harder games or play conference games right out of

906
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 6: the gate. I love the idea of it. I think

907
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 6: it raises the stakes of it all instead of just

908
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 6: easing your way in there, is no shallow in. It

909
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 6: ain't like you walking off of the sand. You get

910
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 6: to feel how cold it is on your your toes,

911
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 6: you get to feel how cold it is.

912
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 5: On your shins. Then you're knees, then your quads, then

913
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: you know, then your waist, then you're in Like nah,

914
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: Like I kind of like, just let's get on in.

915
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 5: Let's go right on in. It's it's twelve feet deep.

916
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 5: The moment you touch it, there ain't no there ain't

917
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: no engine your way in. I kind of like that

918
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 5: for college.

919
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 6: Now that we have the playoff, you know, kind of

920
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 6: developing the way that it is with the amount of.

921
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: Teams, like get to it, Like, let's get straight to it.

922
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 6: You got enough time for training camp. Do what you

923
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 6: need to do in training camp. And and I would

924
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 6: ultimately say, the reason why maybe the committee would be

925
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 6: more favorable towards towards a team that loses a game

926
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 6: earlier versus loses a game later is for those reasons

927
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 6: is that you didn't have like that traditional sense of

928
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 6: playing a small school and getting your feet under you.

929
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 6: You jump right to it. So if you got a loss,

930
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 6: you got a loss, but you got to finish that

931
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: out strong. Finish out strong. You got a chance. But

932
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 6: that's only to me. That's only if you're playing top

933
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 6: grade a competition from from Jump Street. No no easy

934
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: Cake walks through the first week through the second week, like,

935
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 6: let's get to it.

936
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: You know, Brady, you mentioned that Georgia Tech game to

937
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 4: open up the season back in six. You guys won

938
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: that game fourteen to ten. That was Joe Onawahi was yeah,

939
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 4: Georgia Tech. Yeah, it's Roman Reins. Yeah.

940
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the captain there of that defense.

941
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: There, so yeah, I mean it was more like guys

942
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 5: like Philip Wheeler and uh I think they had I

943
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 5: don't know if Derek Morgan was on the defensive end

944
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 5: or not, but they had some guys up front, some

945
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 5: of the linebackers that were.

946
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: Like really stood out.

947
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you've got to win over a guy who's

948
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: made event in multiple WrestleManias. I mean, I don't know

949
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: where that goes on your list of accomplishments, but that's

950
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: got to be right up there.

951
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: That's massive.

952
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: You know, I don't care about wrestling just saying like this,

953
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 4: this is important.

954
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: You're trying to get you're trying to do more. I'm

955
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: not you can do more. And second, come bring more

956
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: out yourself, all right, so hang it out yourself.

957
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 4: I've never ski take okay, so empty the clip Jonas.

958
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: I was never ever critical when people would criticize Alabama

959
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: or some of these other programs for for scheduling a

960
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: cupcake or if they would schedule a big non conference

961
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: opponent like a USC it would always be on a

962
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 4: neutral site for Week one. For this reason alone, I

963
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 4: don't know how the hell anybody would be prepared and

964
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: ready to go without some sort of ramp up in

965
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: a preseason game. We're what two weeks away from week

966
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: one of the college football season. Yeah, no, it's like

967
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 4: two weeks away because there's just a little bit more

968
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: the Ireland.

969
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 6: I mean there's some Yeah, there's some games that are

970
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 6: being Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm focused there, I'm specific.

971
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean think about it. For those teams, how the

972
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: hell are you ready to go?

973
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: Like? How?

974
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: How?

975
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: And and it makes the whole idea of and we've

976
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: talked about this before, like why are their preseason rankings,

977
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 4: like like how do you even know who's what?

978
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: Why?

979
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: Why do those exist at this point when when we.

980
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 4: Have no preseason, no evidence, no body work, no, nothing,

981
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: players changing portal this and that.

982
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 6: I don't know they're playing a team that's a real team,

983
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 6: like unless you're but you hold on. So Notre Dame is.

984
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: Playing who first, Texas, Miami, Miamixas. Okay, So you got

985
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: those types of games. You're going to know coming out

986
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 5: of those games, what type of teams you have, like

987
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 5: and And the idea of it is is because you're

988
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 5: talking about two teams, those are heavyweight matchups. Now, if

989
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 5: you're coming out and and you're playing against I don't know, Alcorn,

990
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 5: Damn Troy, you know, if you're playing against like you know, Texas, Abilene,

991
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: Christian the College right, And I'm making that up.

992
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's true. But the point is,

993
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: if you're.

994
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 6: Playing against a real team week one, you get an

995
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 6: idea if it's a good team or not, you get

996
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 6: a good idea. If you're playing against a cupcake team,

997
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 6: there's no way of knowing because the score or the

998
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: stats are not going to be indicative of how good

999
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 6: that team is. So it comes back to the conversation

1000
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 6: of the parody aspect of what's taking place at this level.

1001
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 6: Are you playing against a real opponent when you get

1002
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 6: out there and you play against them because all of

1003
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: the resources that these power fours have, their off seasons

1004
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 6: are probably in a lot of ways far more advanced.

1005
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 6: The kids are far more well prepared with what it

1006
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 6: is that they have going on outside of the power

1007
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 6: forward schools that they're going to go play against. So

1008
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 6: if you go up against another power for you go

1009
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 6: up against like one year, Penn State went up against

1010
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 6: Purdue in Lafayette. They went into Lafayette and played their

1011
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 6: first game.

1012
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: I love that.

1013
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 6: I love that, and that will to me, I think

1014
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 6: that will give you more of an accurate indicator of

1015
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 6: what type of team it can be. It's still potential

1016
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 6: because they still have a lot of improving to do,

1017
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 6: but I would I would say the measurement is much

1018
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 6: different based off of that.

1019
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 5: Right, Florida State. In regards to the rankings. In regards

1020
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 5: to the rankings, it's for TV, that's what's for because

1021
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 5: the rankings you see early in the season aren't the

1022
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 5: rankings that actually matter. The college football playoff rankings are

1023
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 5: the only things that matter that doesn't even come out

1024
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 5: until October. So it's for TV like that's it's the

1025
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 5: way of selling the matchups as a top ten, top five,

1026
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 5: top twenty five matchup to get people to watch.

1027
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: Florida State was tenth going into the season last year.

1028
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: They were awful. Yeah, as a turn and I just

1029
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: think there's examples of that that you see all the time.

1030
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: But you also have a ton of teams, Jonnis, it's

1031
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 5: not the NFL. You have thirty two in thirty three

1032
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 5: teams individual and college football team.

1033
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: You get some stroke in college football. How would you

1034
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: handle the rankings? When would you give rankings out after

1035
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 4: week two?

1036
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: I would make the college Football Playoff Committee, Well, if

1037
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna do it, do it for the entirety of.

1038
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 5: The season, because one of the things that becomes difficult

1039
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 5: to measure is when you go back and look at

1040
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 5: strength and schedule and people start having the conversation about,

1041
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: you know, would you account those ranked wins earlier in

1042
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 5: the year before the playoff committee had their input, and

1043
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 5: you know, because afterwards, if like, for example, that team

1044
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 5: falls apart, what does it you know, can you say

1045
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 5: they'd beat.

1046
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: A top ten team? I mean that's in hindsight.

1047
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: You can always go back and like, well, yeah, they

1048
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 5: weren't a top ten team, Well they were at that

1049
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 5: moment based on how someone felt. And obviously, you know,

1050
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 5: basically there's a winner and loser of every game. And

1051
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 5: so if you are, for example, a top ten, top

1052
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 5: fifteen team and you lose that game, you drop which

1053
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 5: is going to happen you know at that point in

1054
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: time though, that's how you're viewed going into that game,

1055
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 5: which is kind of all that matters. So again, it's

1056
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 5: a nuanced conversation. Everyone's got their own opinion. If it's

1057
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 5: a ranked win, it's a ranked win. You know, I

1058
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 5: kind of hate this whole Let's go back and look

1059
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 5: at it in hindsight when it's like, well, then you're

1060
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 5: completely letting all the people off the hook who made

1061
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: the rankings in the first place. So either have rankings

1062
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: or we don't. And why don't you make the committee

1063
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: that makes them. Either do them at the beginning of

1064
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 5: the season, or just not do anything. Do a BCS ranking,

1065
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 5: make it all computer and wait till the end of

1066
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 5: the season to see who are the top teams that

1067
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 5: end up making in the playoff.

1068
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 4: No, it's a good idea. Will it happen? Probably not.