1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged. This episode is presented by DraftKings 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: the Crowd of Drawers. Let's get on with the show 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: because we've got a great guest today, one of the 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: greatest in my opinion all around point guards. We've ever 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: seen someone who should be getting the Hall of Fame 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: phone call? How many more years you gotta wait? Night? 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: He's ready, Okay, so the phone is open, NBA. Just 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: so y'all know. Welcome to show. Rajon Rondo, appreciate that. 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate you stopping by. Man, you got a lot 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: of great things going on. Congratulations at thirty nine, you 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: just graduated from Kentucky late than never. I love that. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Talk to me what was behind you going back and 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: just what was that experience like, did you get a 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: chance to go in class and be with some of 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: the kids. What was it like? 16 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: You know, like what you just mentioned, you know, at 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: a tough time in my life, I had a lot 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: of downtime and dropped my kids off of school. I 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: had another five six hours to do nothing right. And 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: shout out to my guy, Mike Stone, academic of Ayeshm University, Kentucky. 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: He was there when I was back in college. He's 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: still there and he always caught me every summer, Hey, 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: come back, come back, come back. Nah, next year, next year. 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: So down. 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: When I retired, I was like, you know what, let 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: me find purpose, a new reason for purpose and getting 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: up every day, going to school, being around to young, 28 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: young students. It was great for me. My family gave 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: me motivation. I would drive an hour day to Lex 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: and like I said, that time they would think I. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Couldn't make it. The class was only five minutes away 32 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: from me. I couldn't make it. You drove hour? 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I drove out. I mean I love I love 34 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: the drive. I'm a driver. Everybody know me, my family. 35 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: One day, I'm a drive across the country. But I 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: love to drive. And like I said, being on the road, 37 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: it's an hour up the street, getting around the young energy, 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: calling back, telling a wife like look, I love what 39 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing like this, this is what it means. And 40 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: then like I said, this also getting my degree before 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: my daughter, my kids graduated, that was also my extra motivation. 42 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Did the NBA pay for that because they did a window? Right? Yeah? 43 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: Plain that. So there's a window when you retire of 44 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: if you want to go back to school they'll pay. 45 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: For it, right, correct, Yeah, there's I think it's like 46 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: a four year gap, but they pay up to twenty 47 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: thousand a year. And like I said, you got to 48 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: keep a certain GPA, but other than that they'll pay 49 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: for And also for me, I was fortunate the University 50 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 2: Kentucky wanted to pay for it, so I had both options. 51 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: They should have gave you that extra nil money your 52 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: second season with the Bucks, I remember talking about going 53 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: into the situation. We haven't talked since you've been in 54 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: this This year, your role has increased a little bit. 55 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Explain what your role is and and and you know 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: what you love about it. Obviously. I know your in 57 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: goal is to be a head coach, and I feel 58 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: like in the next two or three years that's going 59 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: to happen. But what is your experience like this year 60 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: sitting alongside someone we both know very well, Doc Rivers. 61 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: That's my guy, you know, shout out to coach, one 62 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: of my greatest mentors I've ever had in my life. 63 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: He's always been real, uh you know, impactful my life, 64 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: very honest with me and like I said, I always uplifting. 65 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: So I told the story before, but again he came 66 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: to my wedding a couple of years back and was like, 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, get your ass in Milwaukee. So ever since, 68 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: I've been last year with the biggest difference from last 69 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: year and this year is me being able to be 70 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: on the bench. And last year, funny story, the first 71 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: time I was on a bench UH against the Celtics 72 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: after the game and Marie gets a call saying that 73 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: we could have forfeited a game or lost the game 74 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: because I was on the bench. They had an extra coach. 75 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Last year, my title was coaching the coaching consultant, and 76 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: this year is more coaching assistant. So that's what I'm 77 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: fortunate now this year being able to, you know, when 78 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm in and Waukee, be able to get on the 79 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: bench and talk to the guys in game because me 80 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: being in the back on the sideline, you know, I 81 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: think it doesn't benefit anyone at all, you know, I mean, 82 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: like I can help you after the game or before 83 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: the game. But that was my greatest strength is being 84 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: able to help my guys in live moments during the game. 85 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: You've had a lot of guys before this opportunity that 86 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: would reach out to you for mentorship in training, and 87 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a preconceived knock on this generation that 88 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: they're hard to teach. They're hard to coach. We both coach, 89 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: coach our children and coach kids younger than them. What 90 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: is their openness and receptiveness been to you? You in 91 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: their ear? 92 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Very humbling? I mean, so many young guys reach out 93 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: and when I talk, you know, their eyes are big 94 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: and wide. So it's like to have that type of 95 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: respect from the young greats. Next generation is very humbling, 96 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: and like I said, for me, it's only right, you know, 97 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: it's only right for me to give the game back, 98 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, paying forward guys like you know, Kevin Garnett, 99 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: you know, Paul Pierrice, my older vets. You know, that's 100 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: what they did for me, you know. So it's what 101 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 2: it's about, holding them, hold them accountable and giving it back. 102 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: So give me an example. If I'm a young fella 103 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: and I reach out to you, what I mean, what 104 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: what do? What do you mean you're gonna do? Obviously 105 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be on the court getting shots, We're gonna 106 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: be watching film. Talk to us about what kind of 107 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: stuff we would be doing. We're doing everything, you know. 108 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: It depends on where you are on life. Like I said, 109 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: I got a couple of. 110 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: Kids that that's moved to Kentucky for our program. For 111 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: me as a mentor, I want to know, teach those 112 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: guys from all my mistakes and what I did great 113 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: while I excel that and then how to technically be 114 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: a pro. 115 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Someone who's made a big jump this year has been 116 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Rollins fourth year of the league, his really first, 117 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: his first year of really finding his footing in this space. 118 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Someone who's averaging seventeen and and what six like five 119 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: point five? Yeah, almost six assists a game, but also 120 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: shooting fifty two percent and forty five from the three. 121 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Someone who's made an impact. 122 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: Most improved player year, that's what you just described. 123 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: It sound like put it, put it, put it out there. 124 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean he jumped from what six to sixteen? Right 125 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: six to seventeen? Excuse me? 126 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: And that was a two way player, got traded, Yeah, 127 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: got waved. 128 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: He was in the CP three Jordan Poole situation. But 129 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: he's found his footing. Uh. And and I can just 130 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: tell knowing that your role has increased this year, that's 131 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: someone's ear you've been in absolutely taught to us about him. 132 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Uh, actually coming late here. They're actually in Cleveland, down 133 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: and he reached out, was like, hey, jump on you 134 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: know FaceTime for thirty minutes of gets some film man. 135 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: So of course, uh, that's my role and that's what 136 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to do. And obviously working with you guys 137 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: is easy. It's always easy coming here. So uh, watch 138 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: a film with him, you know, not necessarily a daily base, 139 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: but every three or four days we try to break 140 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: down the game. And it's what I love about him 141 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: as if lately he's been asking me like real questions, 142 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: like you know, how do you manipulate a game? I 143 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 2: don't want to watch one or tw clips. Let's actually 144 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: watch a full game and you tell me what you're 145 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: thinking during those times. So it's been fun teaching him 146 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: that type. 147 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: Of you know, what is it like when you see 148 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: a younger kid's light bulb come on? Because again, we're 149 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: both in the youth space right now, and we feel 150 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: like this generation is the most skilled generation we've ever seen, 151 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: but I feel like they lack game IQ strategy i 152 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: Q and and and and sets and all that. So 153 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: when you start seeing the light bulb come on from 154 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: these guys, because again, it's it's all once they apply 155 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: theirselfs it'll it'll. 156 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: And I think that's due to lack of teaching. Teaching 157 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: is and where it needs to be, all right, but 158 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: how it makes me feel as exciting? You know, I 159 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: get into it. I'm watching so much film right now, 160 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: and it's ridiculous. Like I said, I'm watching films. 161 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: And it's everything from because you got to watch the 162 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: NBA film. 163 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: Then I got my son and you got yourself, and 164 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: then I got kids that play a different school. That's 165 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: how you program watching their film is what I do. 166 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: You know, appreciate my wife and family allow me to 167 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: get away like that. But like I said, this is 168 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: what I love to do. I love to teach and 169 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: just learn the game. And at so many different levels, 170 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: it's been fun and I feel like I'm really great 171 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: at it. 172 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: What have you got to see? And you've been blessed 173 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: in your career to play with some of the greatest 174 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: power forwards the game has ever seen? What have you 175 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: got to see on a day end or when you're 176 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: there from Jannis not just on the court, but also 177 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: off the court in his his his support system with 178 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: his brothers there and his family very close to the 179 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: to the to the organization. What have you got to 180 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: see us just kind of the man, the player, maybe 181 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: some of the stuff we wouldn't get to see on 182 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: it on a daily basis. 183 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: He's a great teammate, you know. I think that's a 184 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: lot of similarities with kevimcguarnt at how he was Guys 185 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: like playing with him. 186 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 187 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: He's extremely hard worker and he's open to criticism. You know, 188 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: I think a lot of superstars. You know, I don't 189 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: know everybody obviously, but you know, you hear the chatters 190 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: out there as far as him not being able to 191 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: be coachable and for guy like himself, I know, the 192 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: difference between having his brother here this year versus last 193 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: year is a big difference. 194 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 195 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: He's a great human being and a great great a 196 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: lot of great energy, great support for him. 197 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: So his game, what do you feel like the next 198 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: evolution in his game is over the last few years. 199 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I think he's toned down is his his three attempts. 200 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: He's obviously been working on his jump shot. He's the 201 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: best and one of the greatest of all time getting 202 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: downhill and putting pressure on the rim. Where do you 203 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: see as someone who really thinks and sees the game 204 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: in for him? What's he having six assists this year? Yes, 205 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: someone you feel like is the best peer passing big 206 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: possibly in the game next to Jokic. What do you 207 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: feel like the next step in his game? Is? 208 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: Oh, great question, you know, I think we challenge him 209 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: every day on the staff. Is you know, just being 210 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: a better communicator on defense, being able, like I said, 211 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: for him being a veteran, a champion, he's seen all 212 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: the defenses and all the offenses that pretty much they're 213 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: all pretty much the same now, being a better communicator 214 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: and putting guys on the right spot, especially with it, 215 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: like I said, he's had, you know, new teammates the 216 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: last couple of years. Injuries happens, you scoots out, So 217 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: we got to put guys in certain roles and it's 218 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: harder for him to adjust versus him being in the league 219 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: for you know, twelve plus years and understanding like what 220 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: the game is asking him and helping us a little 221 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: bit more with that. 222 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: When you're watching film, like what are you looking for 223 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: that you feel like maybe the players aren't being out there. 224 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: I can't give you the whole answer to that. 225 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Matt, but we don't want to unlock the secret everybody. 226 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: It's crazy because to me now, like when I'm watching film, 227 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: and obviously it's no no knock to you know, Doc 228 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: or anything, it's like that, But when I'm watching film, 229 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm always like looking on how you know I could 230 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: win the game in a sense of like if I 231 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 2: would have made different coaching changes strategies, or if I 232 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: would stayed with what where they actually work. So it's 233 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: just fun being able to do that. And then also 234 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: kudos to the staff. They're they're you know, they're not 235 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: threatened to intimidated by me speaking out a voice in 236 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: my opinion, Like and as a player, I went to 237 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: a lot of teams where you know, coaches will be like, hey, 238 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: we want you to be yourself, and then I wasn't 239 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: how to be myself. So it's been very humble to 240 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: kind of be work with the you know, the Milwaukee 241 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: Buck staff. You know, they're great, great men. And I 242 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: told Doc, if I ever get my shot, I'm gonna 243 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: try to take everybody because like, you got guys that 244 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: work really hard and they're great at what they do. 245 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: So that's dope. What have you learned now about coaching 246 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: that you maybe didn't have an appreciation or an understanding 247 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: for now that you're more in a co have much 248 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: time full time. 249 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: How much time they put into the game plan and 250 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: then for players to come out and like not execute 251 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: the game plan. Like that's that's been like you understand 252 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: that now the biggest chance like why like you know 253 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: what I mean, It's like for me, it's like, man, 254 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: we're all pros. You know most of some do don't have families, 255 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: Like we have one job, like understand the game plan. 256 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: Let's go into about it and make sure you understand 257 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: the game plan period because I mean, like I said, 258 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: the amount of time like for its like players don't 259 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: know like coaches. You know, we play Cleveland night, coach 260 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: will watched five games minimum and then know everything about 261 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: it and started the next time. It's like and then we're 262 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: telling you don't let this guy go right, and then 263 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: you go back and watching him to night and he 264 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: went right eight times just like either I mean, it's 265 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: like what is it? What's the disconnect? That's that's make 266 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: it makes sense. So that's I. 267 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Mean, it doesn't turn off as a coach. That's why 268 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: I had some opportunities. When I finished, I'm just like nah, 269 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: like I was the schedule of the player was wearing 270 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: me down. Like I couldn't imagine, like not turn off, 271 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: I'd be taken away from my kids. 272 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: Just appreciate when the coach is telling you something, especially 273 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: if he's putting in the work. You know, like we 274 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: don't know what all, but like guys are working tirelessly 275 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: hours of certain things that specifically that they are asked 276 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: to be. You know, great that so dis appreciate it. 277 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: Doc's been in your life for nearly twenty years. You know, 278 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: it's documented when you guys at the beginning, you guys 279 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: with butt has because of your competitiveness and and and 280 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: both your levels of IQ coached you coached against you 281 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Now sitting on the bench with him, what is it 282 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: about him that has allowed him to continue to do 283 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: this Because he's taken a lot of heat, you know, 284 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: some some fair, some unfair. Where do you think he 285 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: kind of still finds the drive to to do this? 286 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this is who he is as a as 287 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: a human being. You know, he's a great person. He 288 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: loves to teach, you know, kind of like myself. I 289 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: feel like I have a lot of similarities with coach, 290 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: and you know he's an underdog. You know, he always 291 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: wants to prove, you know, himself. And like I said, 292 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: this overall he loves to help, you know, he loves 293 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: helping people. Where he puts a lot of people on 294 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, he's I can't say, I can't say anything 295 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: negative or you know, some shady city he's ever done 296 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: in my life, like I said, other than when we 297 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: got into a young but again I was a kid 298 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: trying to figure out my role with my strength and 299 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: on that team. So he's always been gumie and honest, 300 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: you know, saying he has great people around him, shout 301 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 2: out to a Marie, Uh, she's in her field. And 302 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: so like I said, I you obviously know for me, 303 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: he say, He's always been honest with me. And like 304 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: I said, even then we have we have great moments 305 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: on the court. As a coach player, it was always 306 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: respect to where we were always trying to do the 307 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: same thing, which was the greater good for the team. 308 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean we had our differences and and and definitely 309 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: bumped heads and but at the same time there was 310 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: still a respect I had for him because I appreciated 311 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: the work he put in and one of the greatest 312 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: communicators and and and and motivators. I've ever been here 313 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: that part through this wall right here war and I 314 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 315 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: Not to cut you off, but I want to say, 316 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: like for me, like from start, from day one, even 317 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: when I was working with him back in Boston with 318 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: Thibodeaux and Lawrence Frank, like he always empowered his coaching staff. 319 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: And that's what I like, a lot of coaches don't 320 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: do that. I played for a bunch obviously in my career, 321 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: but like even now, fast forward to Milwaukee now, I 322 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: mean Greg Buckner, Darbingham, Dave Yeager, like he allows all 323 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: them to beat himself, like have a voice, and like 324 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: I said, I love how we empowered him. 325 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a funny story that you could share 326 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: about you and Doc button Heads early on? 327 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't know about I got so maybe the when 328 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: I blew the TV up. We gotta fined twenty thousand 329 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: with busting the TV. 330 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: What happened? Talk to me about that? 331 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: We were watching film and so. 332 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: What year in the league is this for you? 333 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: I forgot of maybe two thousand and nine, so it's 334 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: probably year my third year or something. Like I said, 335 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: we were playing Detroit Pistons and you know, I said, 336 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: I've obviously I watched him the night before. So we 337 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 2: come in and we're in the locker room. I think 338 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: I'm across some shack Jermaine O'Neill, Kevin's down at in 339 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: my right. 340 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: By. 341 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: I think I'm about Eddie House, like watching film boom 342 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: watching film. We're talking about Chouncey buillets for some reason, 343 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: and I think Chauncey didn't have a great game that 344 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: particular game, but Rip was killing us off a floppy action. 345 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: So I just knew. Because they're coming film, I like, 346 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: it can't be me today. Here we go. We're going film. 347 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: You know happened Chancey with? Like why is he shot? 348 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: Even on there? In my head? Okay? Rondo, okay, cool? 349 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: Right cool? Two three possessions later again, I'm like, hold on, 350 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: I look, I'm looking across some shock looking at me 351 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: like be cool. He's like, don't do it, and I'm exploding. 352 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm ready to go crazy. So I'm like, man, why 353 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: are we here talking about me when Rip had like 354 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: thirty two or something last night? You know what I mean. 355 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: So that's what kind of pissed me off. And I'm like, man, 356 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: fuck if I jump up boom, throw a water about 357 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: TV TV explode Boom busted me and doctor immediately trying 358 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: to go at it like they got it between us 359 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: or whatever. They told me, get masked out, go take 360 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: a walk. I'm shirt off. It's like thirty two degrees 361 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: in Boston. I take a walk down the street, come 362 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: back in, you know, I say, I gotta get my shit. 363 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: I get out and what I love and respect the most. 364 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: The one person that called me that night was Kevin 365 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: Garnett and he was like, you was wrong. I was 366 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: like what He's like, yeah, man, he was wrong. I 367 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: was like, okay, cool, So like him holding me accountable 368 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: like that, and like I said, because at that time, 369 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, fuck, am I wrong? When you know, 370 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: it's like if you're pointing a finger at me and 371 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm not the problem, like call it, you know, color 372 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: how it is? I called the spade of space. So 373 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: that's what kind of made I was. That's why I 374 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: was frustrating like that from that day. For like, we've 375 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: always been tight ever since the same ship that happened 376 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: with me. 377 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: And I was literally telling the same ship Blake and 378 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: DJF there were kind of bullshitting, but I took two shots, 379 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: and he like went in on both my shots. When 380 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: we played the Warriors, I'm like, what the fuck? What 381 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: about the ship that Draymond and all these mothers? And 382 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: I felt the same way, And and we told the story. 383 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: We just had DJ is hit man, chill, bro man, 384 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: just chill, and I got up and the whole the 385 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: whole film set went like like what he about to do? 386 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Because I'm in the far corner with DJ and CP 387 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: is over here by us, and I have to walk 388 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: past Doc to go out. So I jump up and 389 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: go around the chair, and I'm kind of like, I 390 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do, and I just look 391 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: at him and I ended up walking out. Go watch 392 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: the DJ episode when it drops. I don't want to 393 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: boris with all that, but it's the same ship. Like 394 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: I felt like he maybe he felt like he needed 395 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: to come through me to get to them, or. 396 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: I was too young in the game for that. Yeah, 397 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: I felt like you got all the biggest over here, 398 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: the Big three, like they got to eat that, especially 399 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: when it was it was daytime to give me. 400 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: That's exactly how my ship went down. 401 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: You gotta get jamain O Neel up here. Too. 402 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: We haven't had jail. We have we have we have 403 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: had jail. 404 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he got a story. He came in with 405 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: some tims on one day. 406 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: But that's let's hear about it. 407 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: I gotta hit him. Tell it if you wanted to 408 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: fight Doc that day with some tis like he came 409 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: to the gym like, man, Doc got, I probably got 410 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: to have a lineup, man, I'm. 411 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: Telling you, but but butting back down from none of them. Yeah, 412 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: he'll get his ass. What I'll fucking with you got. 413 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: The East is down a little bit this year, and 414 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: that definitely obviously helps you guys a little bit. It's weird. 415 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: I feel like as great as giannisis, he doesn't get 416 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: the consistent love and respect he deserves on this greatness. 417 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: I think you know, I think you guys are what 418 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: two games above five hundred right now, seventh in the 419 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. He's sitting at thirty three, eleven and six 420 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. So right in the MVP mix, 421 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: you guys, it looks like things are starting are what 422 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: do you feel like with this team? As and I 423 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: think you point out a very important piece his his 424 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: obviously injuries are big, but his teammates keep rotating, He's 425 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: getting new guys. How long to into you feel like 426 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: you guys will At what point do you feel like 427 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: it's it's going to start clicking for you guys. 428 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: I think once we get healthy. You know, Scoot was 429 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: a big blow to us earlier in the year in 430 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: game one. You know, I starting point guard. So obviously 431 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: that's why you see the jump from Ryan Rollins productive 432 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: being producive of this year. So I mean, just haven't 433 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: moving parts. TP just went down. So, like I said, 434 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: there's our guys that we pretty much count on have 435 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: been heindrid, which a lot of teams in the league 436 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: had not excuse him. But at the same time, we 437 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: just got to adapt a a team to find it, 438 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: try to find ways to win games. 439 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: The evolution of the point guard. Rick Pattino said, this 440 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: will take a look at it real quick. 441 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: There are no point guds anymore. I mean, if you 442 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: find it, you'll probably describe him as a guy who 443 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: can't shoot him what game. He's a combo scoring guard. 444 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: I don't think he's looking for the assists. I think 445 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: he's looking at squad and thank god he is so. 446 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: And whether it's whether it's the champion. Who's the point 447 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: cut in Utumba said, this is the team who's the 448 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: point cut to the Knicks, the Lakers and Celtics, the 449 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: champ World champions. Pointcut is is totally done in basketball. 450 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 4: The days of John Stockton are long gone. There are 451 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: no more point cuds. Chris Paul is probably the last one. 452 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: So you got to play with everybody handling the basketball 453 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: five out and just create good movement. 454 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: When you hear that, what are your thoughts? I mean, 455 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: you're the definition of a peer point. I want to 456 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: make your teammates better first and do all the little 457 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: things and then scoring when needed. We've seen an influx 458 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: this year with like the Houston Rockets not starting to 459 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: point guard Cooper flags start, Yeah Bucks, Dallas Phoenix teams 460 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: that are good. I think obviously with the Houston uh 461 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: and and and you know Dallas is riddle by injury. 462 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: You guys are trying to figure it out. But thoughts, 463 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: is that a true statement? Do you think you can 464 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: win it without without someone who's really running the point 465 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: these days? 466 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: I think the thunder just did it, I believe, But 467 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: for me, I think it's a level h the IQ 468 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: of the team overall, and then a lot of teams 469 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: don't have the IQ of the Thunder organization or like 470 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets, you know with the Doku. I think. 471 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: I think it's primarily with him, how he's allowing guys 472 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: and how they're able to understand extoute the game plan 473 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: because a lot of teams that I'm watching to see 474 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: what I'm doing, I'm watching the films like they need 475 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: a point guard. They need someone to you know, run 476 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: the show and off even like the game win. I 477 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: believe when the Thunder in Houston play, you know, you 478 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: need a point guard. Like Ktan touched the ball, so 479 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: I know if I'm in the game and Ktane touch 480 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: the ball and eight possessions, like, you need a point guard. 481 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: So it's like a coach can only do so much. 482 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: You're managing so many different things, and a point guard 483 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: is the extension of the coach on the floor. So 484 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: it's like when you're not executing, when you don't when 485 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: you come down and run two sets in a row 486 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: and then the third time you try to go away 487 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: from it. A point guard understands to win and where 488 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: to get guts the ball. 489 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: I think of Houston when I think of this because 490 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: it's it's sing gooon and KD getting the ball out 491 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: of their spots. They're great players and they're gonna make 492 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: it happen, but to your point, knowing when to get 493 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: them the ball in their spots to make them be 494 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: the most effective. Although they're you know, they're one of 495 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: the highest scoring dudes, but you see, lad in games, 496 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily either of their forte in their career, 497 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: they usually had got to their spots and then that's 498 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: when they're you know, some of the best in the world. 499 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely still feel it's important to have 500 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: a point guard just for everything you said. But it'll 501 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, you know, to your point, not 502 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: everybody as a high i Q and and understand the 503 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: game the way those those Okay, see you guys have 504 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: been able to buy in transitioning a little bit flag football. Guy, 505 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: that's what you got there, slanging that pill. So what's 506 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: going on? Uh, you know a lot of people don't 507 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: know you loved football. 508 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: Growing up and it was Okay, taught me everything I 509 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: know as far as football in the game, Like, I 510 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: always wanted to be ahead of the curve, whether it 511 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: was him teaching me early on math problems or being 512 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: on the football field being number one, so I always 513 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: had an early love for it. I actually thought I 514 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: was going pro on football in young grage. So to 515 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: be able to go back and play flag fo ball 516 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: the last This past summer has been fun, you know, 517 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: football dreams. I call it going out on Sunday. But 518 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: I had to stop playing because show to start hurt. 519 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: You ain't had to work. 520 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah for the work, and yeah, I'm gonna take some 521 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: time off. You might catch me out here in twenty 522 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: twenty eight Olympics. 523 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: I was about to say, what if? What if they 524 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: give you a Tommy John right now? And have you 525 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: ready for twenty eight to be out there slanging that thing? 526 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 5: Nah? 527 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: But hopefully I'm a head coaching somewhere by twenty twenty eight. 528 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: But like I said, I can't do it all. But 529 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: I said, I do like to keep my options opening. 530 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: And I love, like I said, just exploring the things. 531 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: Did any did the NFL NFL flag hit you up 532 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: or anybody hit you up when they kind of saw 533 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: that as I did. Oh? 534 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: Really, I got I got the text message bout it. 535 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: We could go about possibly being Olympics twenty twenty eight, 536 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: really trying out. 537 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: That's what They're gonna give you a chance. 538 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: They asked me, was I available in June July? I 539 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: think of twenty six next year, So we'll see if 540 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: I if I take that. If I don't, I don't 541 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: have a call from you know, anybody in I'm. 542 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: Gonna bring a camera myself out there, huh and just 543 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: follow you around. 544 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: If one's here, then ones I think in Atlanta. So 545 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be here with me man in the camera. 546 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna document that ship we all. Fatherhood 547 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: obviously a huge part of your life. I mean, you 548 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 2: play a father to a lot of kids that aren't chores. 549 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: You know, the way you mentor and love and and 550 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: and want to give back. But you do have three babies, 551 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: right and one four. 552 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: A son who I know and got a chance to see, 553 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: a daughter who just is in college right now from volleyball. 554 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Talk to us about fatherhood and and and your DNA 555 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: being passed to your kids. What has been like to 556 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of coach dad mentor there's a there's a tough 557 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: balance and not our kids hearing too much of our voice. 558 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: What is all that have you navigated this space. 559 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: It's been amazing. That's to start with my daughter. She's 560 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: she's my oldest. Have an older stepson as well as 561 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: he's younger, but my daughter right she's abama now, and 562 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: like I said, coming into the season, I expect you 563 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: and play. You know, we joke and laugh about it, 564 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: like her playing her watching her player at Kiva to 565 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: the AU program, you know, six months before the season start. 566 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, got we got work to do. 567 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 2: And so for me being able to see her now 568 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: fast forward, I think I just start her play two 569 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: days ago when her last home opening season games this year, 570 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: I mean, she I damned their crowd watching them play. 571 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: The way she's controlling the game from her perspective, you know, 572 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: in her volleyball world, she's like the point right out 573 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: there on the floor and being able to call certain 574 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: sets out or telling you know, her hitters middle left 575 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: or line. It's been fun, you know, and like said 576 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: humble at the same time, because she reminds me so 577 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: much of myself being able to because she's five six 578 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: on a good day. You know, these girls out here 579 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: six five, super athletic, and like I said, she's find 580 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: her way to make impact on the game. So it's 581 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: been really fun teaching her and her calling me, asked 582 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: me about the game, and she she said something to coach, 583 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: you know, me putting my coaching hat over his dad 584 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: had knowing like, nah, this isn't a good time to 585 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: say something, or you know, go about it this way. 586 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: Just like being there for her this particular time in 587 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: my life, it has been the most amazing feeling like 588 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: we're as tight as ever. And then my son, he's 589 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: in eighth grade now playing varsity basketball this year, so 590 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: it's a big jump for him. He should be starting 591 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: and just like I said, watching him grow through the 592 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: growing pains and it's teaching him to give Hi as 593 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: much the game as possible. So it's been a humbling. 594 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the balance with your son, because I 595 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: try to find a balance with my son. Obviously you 596 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: coach your son in the summertime or assistant coach, but 597 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, very hands on talk to people that may 598 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: not understand what your point of view because it's very 599 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: similar to mine is as far as not being the 600 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: dominating voice constantly because we always have to be dad right, 601 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: and then coaches walking next because sometimes we want to 602 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: ring these little motherfuckers next because they listening. But talk 603 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: about like the balance of not them having to hear 604 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: our mouth too much. 605 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I'm I think you got 606 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 2: obviously ask him, But I think I'm doing to health 607 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: a job of when I first started coaching them to 608 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: now to where I'm kind of, you know, maybe the 609 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: fourth or fifth option in the sense of what he's hearing, 610 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: you know, on the court, off the court, I got 611 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: a great group of men around him that's able to 612 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: tell them the same messages that I want to relate 613 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: to them. And again, we're dad, so we can't always 614 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: be that voice because he's like I don't want to 615 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: hear it. I want to turn off. And at times 616 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: I just need you to be that like basketball, like 617 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: let's just go and have a good time father son, 618 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: and let's talk about other things in life. So for me, 619 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm trying to do continue to do a great job 620 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: at it. Uh you know at times, you know, I've 621 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: been to therapy with him, you know, they trying to 622 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: figure out how to be a better father when you 623 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: get that balance right and wrong, and like I said, 624 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: just keep growing and then sharing my experiences with guys 625 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: that have sons himself, you know, asking questions. You know 626 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: Jaylen Bronston's dad, I mean know Jaylen Bronson. You know. 627 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: So it's just you know, it's been been fun and 628 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: just learning. 629 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: I do a lot of ship on Instagram. Myes be 630 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: the first to tell you where all fine clips of 631 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: players saying what I've been telling them, and I send 632 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: it to him. You do that ship all the time, 633 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: all day. 634 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the great body says it, Stuff says says it, 635 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: m J says it, and his whole Instagram, his DM 636 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: is flooded of those. 637 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: I sitt it right to our group chat. Fuck it. 638 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: You gonna see my ship when I want you to 639 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: see the same thing. 640 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's the time, like I said, because 641 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, we're all saying the same thing. We just 642 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: obviously want the best for you. Like these are the 643 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: guys that are saying the exact same thing. Say please listening. 644 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: You guys were fortunate enough to be able to be 645 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: accepted to Junior e YBL. Congratulations. Uh that is that 646 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: it ain'ty people to understand. Man, it's a real politick 647 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: and situation. 648 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: We've been on we search about four years now. 649 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: But congratulations junior E Y B L H this summer 650 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: and then damn he's off the high school after that. 651 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 652 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: But then well this summer is he's going into high school. 653 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: It's something he's going. Yeah, but we were killed it though. 654 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: This summer ain't hold. We locked in too, and we 655 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: want all the smoke. Yeah, let's get it. 656 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I love it. Ye, yes, sir, before we get out 657 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: of here. You know, obviously us being former pros and 658 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: our kids striving. Did you get a chance to see 659 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: Sha door uh at all? Yesterday? I didn't. In the 660 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: second half. I felt like they put him in a 661 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: in a trick bag somewhat. But you know, no reps 662 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: with the first unit at all, even though he was 663 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: a second string or third whatever they want to call him, 664 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: made some solid those made some mistakes, had some balls 665 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: that his team should have hit, his guys should have caught. 666 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: But I just think overall, for him to be able 667 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: to get out there, it's been real interesting over there. 668 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: It's just like it's almost like you hate to say it, 669 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: but I think the writings on the walls, there's some 670 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: weird energy over there with him not being able to 671 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to get on the field. What are 672 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. 673 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: I just feel Cream rise to the top, you know 674 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: what I mean. And like I said, whatever they throw 675 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: at him, whatever he's doing. Like I said, he has 676 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: a great role mods ahead of him and he just 677 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: got to stay the course, continue to be a humble kid, 678 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: get his head down and keep working because he's going 679 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: to get the opportunity and when he does, and everybody's 680 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: gonna eat their work. 681 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: So gotta be ready, plain and simple. Last, but not least. 682 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: I opened the show with it, and I'm gonna close 683 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: with it. Two time NBA Champ, four time All Star, 684 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: four time All Defense, it's a three time assist Champ, 685 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: all NBA All Rookie. When I list off your accolades 686 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: and your impact on the game of basketball, tell me 687 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: what the Hall of Fame would mean to you. 688 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: You know, to me, I'm already in a hall of fame. 689 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: This is the wildest shit that's ever Like my experience 690 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: in life is the reaction to people like when they 691 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: see me, Like everywhere I go for the last you know, 692 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: eighteen years, it's been damn there. Every night I could 693 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: cry because of how people receive me. It's like from 694 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: babies to adults to kids, it's like and they just 695 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: want to say what's up. I mean even when I 696 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 2: played I'm in the club, I'm I'm in the streets. 697 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like everybody from every all genres of 698 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: life go to do biases people everywhere I go. Last 699 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years of my life have like always been 700 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: amazed to like being my presence. So for me, like 701 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: if I die tomorrow, I said, that's the best feeling 702 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: I can ever have. It's how I'm able to impact 703 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: other people because me growing up, I never really looked 704 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 2: at people in a sense, you know what I mean. 705 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: I didn't really It wasn't fanatic or I didn't really 706 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: watch sports growing up. I was just a kid outside 707 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: being a kid. So how people react to me the 708 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: way they do, you know, I'm already a hall of fame. 709 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I remember that. It brings me back when 710 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: I first met you, Bro. I think you were still 711 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: in high school when you came and fuck with vib 712 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: that summer. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen you around 713 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: team time. He was out in Sack all summer, just 714 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: a little skinny kid that had games. 715 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: I just needed to understood what I can you know 716 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: attain working? 717 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: You know? Was what I knew that Mike was a 718 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: workerholic too. 719 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: I had a cold, a sack of cribs doing this, 720 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: get right to the gym. That was this it was, 721 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: but he had the whole family in the cult to 722 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: sack Man. I was like, you know what this is, 723 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: This is what I want to do. Shout out to Mike. 724 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, shout out to Mike. They play UCLA tomorrow 725 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: in l a uh sack state state. Now. I think 726 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: they got it. And I actually got a ticket to 727 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: because I gotta leave because I got I got tickets 728 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: for ticket and Paul because Mike kid me up and 729 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: said they wanted to go see Mike u c l A. 730 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: But I got to go to New York tonight, so 731 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: I gotta of course. 732 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's light in there. 733 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, We appreciate you. Best of luck obviously 734 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: moving forward. People don't know what I mean. We're working 735 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: with some stuff behind the scenes. You're a friend of 736 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: the program, part of the programs. Man, Good luck with 737 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: everything and keep being great bro like man, Yeah. Shout 738 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: out my brother from Stoner Sports sixty for the weekly 739 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: sixty second Stoner Recap this week they're highlighting our guests, 740 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Rajon Rondo. 741 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 6: Hey, real talk, Raision Rondo, one of the most underrated 742 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 6: point guards of all time. 743 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: That boy do was a ball fake DMI. Where the 744 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: hell you going, Andrew? 745 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 6: This is the Stoners sixty persented by Unplugged, the most 746 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 6: litman and in sports. 747 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: Look at the die. 748 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 6: You can't tell me the name Raison Rondo. 749 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Don't sound like a magician. 750 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 6: Hit that boy, Jesus Shuttle's worth writing this shot? 751 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Pocket no loose. 752 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 5: You want to talk about a real competitor. That's what 753 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 5: dope was. Rondo was taking on all challenges colitenically. He 754 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: was guarding prime pron He was in the bubble, walkle 755 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 5: picking dude's up full court, taking cookies neath those bullshit 756 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 5: with the rock like that my boy in the bubble. 757 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 5: All we can do is who PAVs Kyrie? Wasn't nobody 758 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 5: stopping him? A Rondo just in his pockets. We all 759 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 5: remember this play. Let me just tell you, ain't nobody 760 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 5: want the ball more than Rayson Rondo. I ain't never 761 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 5: seen nobody go this hard. Rondo, who like somebody was 762 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: trying to take food off his plate. Look at this 763 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 5: crazy shit he cut his own man's off from Garden. 764 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 5: KD No I got him, came on the line and 765 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 5: this meet you know, KD goes straight to a spot 766 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 5: and post up like it was sweet, And let me 767 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: tell you right now, with Rondo, it was never sweet. 768 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 5: And he did this on every team he played for. 769 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: Appreciate y'all tapping in with the Stoners sixty raison Rondo 770 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: editions and if you ain't subscribed to all the smoke, 771 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 6: you better go do that right now. 772 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: NBA sentail has been a revelation on NBA Twitter in 773 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: the recent times, baiting not only NBA fans, but quite 774 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: a bit of credible media outlets as well into believing 775 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: Outlander's headlines related to the league. Today, we have a 776 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: new segment where the production team has put together some 777 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: real NBA reports mixed with some sentail reports, and it's 778 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: my job to see if I can smell the bullshit. 779 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: So we got real or sent tell Draymond Green just 780 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: named his top five Warrior teammates of all time. Got 781 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Jarrett Jack, Buddy Healed, and David Lee. 782 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: Is that real or cintel? 783 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: I think that's Cintil it's real report. Raymond himself, Really, 784 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: I thought I would have heard about it. 785 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: That was the NBA and NBC posted an Instagram reel 786 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: where he gave his top five teammates. 787 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: That's oh we got that's the top five. Oh for 788 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: one for one, all right, let's go. 789 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: Nico Harrison reportedly attempted to trade Cooper flag shortly before 790 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: his dismissal from the Mavericks. 791 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Ain't no fucking away. He can keep fucking up like this. 792 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: Uh cintil, cintel Yes, for one of two. 793 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: Now they might have tried to kill bro so there's 794 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: no way he was going to pull that off. 795 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: Would have been raps. 796 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 797 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: LaMelo Ball reportedly scared the Timberwolves away during the draft 798 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 3: process when he said he wanted to be the president 799 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: of the United States after he retired. 800 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Would that scare him? I think this is bullsh I 801 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: think this is centail facts day. Really, yes, and it's scared. 802 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: It's it's scared. 803 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 3: Him that this is a real report that came out 804 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: a couple of days ago you talked about on the 805 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 3: Live because that was the same draft as an Brandon 806 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: Pajemski says he had the talent to be the quote 807 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 3: white version of sho Hey Otani if he had chosen 808 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: baseball as his. 809 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: Career path, I'm saying bullshit. I'm still saying bullshit. 810 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he threw out a first pitch not too long ago, 811 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: eighty six miles an hour. 812 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: I believe he was not a super athlete. But saying 813 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: that you have the town to be OCHANI, I'm calling bullshit. 814 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: Big Baller Brand is reportedly preparing a super max shoe 815 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 3: offer for Stephen Curry. 816 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: I hope, no, this is Cintel. 817 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 2: Here we go, this is in Intel. That was Intel, 818 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: all right, here we go. 819 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 3: Ronnie James reportedly walked past the Bucks locker room during 820 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 3: their last and told Giannis, quote lace him up, it's 821 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 3: going to be a long night. 822 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Nah, he better not. That's a sentil. Are you for sure? Yes? 823 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: And that's what we got. 824 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: That's it. How good? 825 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: How good do you think you are at? 826 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: What's your what's your ready? 827 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't. I mean, I think I could have 828 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: been one higher if I would have, like realistic, did 829 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: the Porjensky thing, because I think that's just out of 830 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: the blue, and I don't see why you guys would 831 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: have made that up. But the fact that he said, 832 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: if he would have stuck with it, I had to 833 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: just call bullshit even though I was wrong. I want 834 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: to send love and condolences to an Oakland legend, John Beem, 835 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: whose life was taken this past week. A pillar in 836 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: the community, a coach, a mentor, a father, there's so many, 837 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: was tragically struck down and lost his life. So I 838 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: just wanted to take a second to send some love 839 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: to the city of Oakland, his family, and make God 840 00:35:51,760 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: rest his soul. That's a wrap froun plug. You can 841 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: catch us on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the 842 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: DraftKings Network. See y'all next week.