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Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten Marry's Gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, one.

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Speaker 4: Hand to catch it the touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, how's that fail? Here's Craig Griolud and nine

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Speaker 1: year NFL veteran Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 4: So we're running the two man game this week. Rob.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: As we speak, Paul Calvici is in the air, literally

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Speaker 4: in the air, on his way to Indianapolis with the

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Speaker 4: rest of the Arizona Cardinals for a couple of joint

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Speaker 4: practices coming up on Wednesday and Thursday. Then you got

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Speaker 4: that preseason game on Saturday, which we will touch on

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Speaker 4: a little bit later on. But speaking of preseason, we

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Speaker 4: actually have a game to dissect here on the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: Red Sea Report. You look forward to the start of

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Speaker 4: training camp, the long off season. You get to training camp,

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Speaker 4: all right, when do game start? And now the preseason

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Speaker 4: is upon us. And when we look back at Saturday,

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Speaker 4: you and I had the opportunity to be a part

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Speaker 4: of Cardinal talk after that sixteen to fourteen loss to

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Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints. Not a lot of starters, main

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Speaker 4: players suited up for that game. They suited up pregame

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Speaker 4: and then they were in street clothes during the game.

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Speaker 4: But overall, would you like, what takeaways did you have

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Speaker 4: from that game on either side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think when you when you think about

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Speaker 3: your first preseason game, this is about what you would

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Speaker 3: expect right there. There was mistakes, missed assignments, penalties on

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Speaker 3: both teams, and it was sloppy. In the first half especially,

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Speaker 3: I thought it seemed to open up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was the play calling, but in the second

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Speaker 3: you saw some more dynamic plays. In the first half,

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Speaker 3: was was boring, Let's be honest, it was I don't know,

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Speaker 3: did they have a first down? Was there? Until not

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Speaker 3: until the second quarter right, So you know it was

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Speaker 3: it was pretty tight to the vest, pretty vanilla both

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Speaker 3: in terms of play calling and production. But they you know,

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Speaker 3: there there were still some some solid performances, individual performances

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the big thing is who flashed

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Speaker 4: on film? And that's and then is there carryover from

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Speaker 4: the practice to the preseason game and now if you

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Speaker 4: it and stack performances to get the attention of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think what's important is, especially if you're a

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Speaker 3: player that's maybe on the bubble, a guy that's you know,

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Speaker 3: been getting reps at third and fourth string throughout the week,

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Speaker 3: these these exhibition games, these these preseason games are particularly

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Speaker 3: important for those guys because you have an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: put some stuff out there on film to really show that, hey,

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Speaker 3: And a guy I really think about that comes to

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Speaker 3: a little bit, hasn't really stuck, but he every opportunity

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Speaker 3: he had. On Saturday, I think he had five targets

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Speaker 3: meaningful receptions. He did everything right. So guys like that,

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Speaker 4: And again it's not maybe not just for the Arzona Cardinals,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, he popped on the film. What popped? For

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Speaker 4: head coach Jonathan Gannon, here's his thoughts as he joined

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Speaker 5: I'm never going to be happy about losing a game.

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Speaker 5: But the most important thing that we do is learn

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Speaker 4: And I think that is something that the head coaches

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Speaker 4: a question a year ago, regardless of time, score or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And you know, there's so much more

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Speaker 3: Especially with bj Ojalari going down, who's gonna kind of

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Speaker 4: A couple of guys that flashed on the edge on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: a moment, but defensive lineman Darius Robinson a tackle on

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Speaker 4: Days only on the field for ten snaps, but in

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Speaker 4: those ten snaps, Darius Robinson flashed more than flashed. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't care if you're a rookie you're

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Speaker 3: out there. Everything that's been talked about Darius Robinson in

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Speaker 3: terms of just his size, his explosiveness, just his ability

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Speaker 3: early on in the game. Just his ability. You know,

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Speaker 3: I remember one of the first couple of plays in

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Speaker 3: It's that kind of quickness and physicality that is really

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Speaker 4: And you heard him talk about it. He was matched

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of the biggest problems with the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals defensively last season is just the interior defensive

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Speaker 3: percentage last year was sixty nine percent, almost seventy percent

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Speaker 3: some really glaring statistics there when you look at the

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Speaker 3: that will affect those numbers certainly this season.

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Speaker 4: Darius has an opportunity to maybe be a starter this season,

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Speaker 4: something head coach Jonathan Gannon mentioned on Monday. But you

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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior, Yes, he did play on Saturday on

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Speaker 5: Gannett's routine of what it looks like when he leaves

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Speaker 5: So it's some different plays because they want to see

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Speaker 5: him touch it a little bit. But he's good to go.

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Speaker 5: He'll learn from today too.

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Speaker 4: You wonder if that opening drive for the Cardinals offense

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Speaker 4: pass attempt to Marvin Harrison Junior but as Gannon said,

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Speaker 4: it was more about just going through the motions of

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Speaker 3: This was basically sound check for the concert. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: I think it was important for Marvin Harrison Junior. You know,

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Speaker 3: on Week one. You don't want that. And Jonathan Gannon's

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Speaker 3: correct and saying that, you know, we want him to

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Speaker 3: you do that, do you not do that? You know,

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Speaker 7: Second down and eight Cardinals of the Saints ten trying

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Speaker 4: all right, this is what I have to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're just thinking quicker. You know, nothing slows down

435
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Speaker 3: in this league. It's it's it's just your brain processes

436
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Speaker 3: everything a lot quicker, so it seems more calm. And

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Speaker 3: that's what you're kind of seeing, you know, pre snap,

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Speaker 3: he's identifying where he's most likely going to go with

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Speaker 3: the A and post snap he's confirming it and he's

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Speaker 3: getting rid of it. And that's you know, that's a

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Speaker 3: mark of a quarterback that you know understands things and

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Speaker 3: understands the offense, understands what they're trying to accomplish and

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Speaker 3: is able to execute that. That's that's the second part

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Speaker 3: of that puzzle is it's fine to understand it, but

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Speaker 3: can you execute it? And Clayton Tune did that Saturday.

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Speaker 4: We hear a lot of players say the game has

447
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Speaker 4: slowed down, and just to hear you explain it, maybe

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Speaker 4: it's not so much slowing down, but your brain is

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Speaker 4: processing things quicker. So you don't you don't buy that

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Speaker 4: the game slows down. Just things the pace quickens for

451
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Speaker 4: you as an individual to match the speed of the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing ever slows down in the NFL. These athletes

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Speaker 3: are faster and stronger and bigger than when I played.

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Speaker 3: But I understand everybody understands what they mean by it

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Speaker 3: it's slowing down. It's not. It's just your ability to

456
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Speaker 3: decipher and process and get to what you need to

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Speaker 3: get mentally and then execute it physically speeds up. And

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Speaker 3: that's the thing that really happens. Is just like defense,

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Speaker 3: playing linebacker, you know the balls snapped, you know where

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Speaker 3: the ball's going, you go, and that didn't mean it

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Speaker 3: was slower. It just means you got it quicker.

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Speaker 4: That's fair. Again, the expectation this week is that Clayton

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Speaker 4: Tune will start Saturday's game against the Colts and then

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Speaker 4: going to be the backup quarterback. And hopefully, I've said

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Speaker 7: Here's Rattler on third down at five pressure with the

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Speaker 7: backside steps up and down goes Rattler. Xavier Thomas came

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Speaker 7: flying into flush out Rattler and then he tripped over

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Speaker 7: a man into the tour nice rush coming in and

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Speaker 7: Spencer Radler. The only place he could go was to

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Speaker 7: step up into the middle where all the traffic was.

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Speaker 7: He ends up getting knocked on. Nice rush inside, sets

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Speaker 7: up the tackle like he's gonna go outside, and then

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Speaker 7: quickly with a speed move, comes back inside. Xavier Thomas

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Speaker 7: has shown a lot today.

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Speaker 4: Three tackles, the sack, tackle for loss, quarterback hits Xavier Thomas. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the fifth round draft pick Clemson did show up on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: As we say, welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red

491
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Speaker 4: Sea Report. Craig Raylu and Rob Frederickson talking about those

492
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Speaker 4: players that did flash and specifically on defense and a

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Speaker 4: lot of rookies flashing, namely Xavier Thomas, who looked pretty

494
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Speaker 4: good and saw some snaps early in the game. Wasn't

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Speaker 4: just that sack, but he was able to get into

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Speaker 4: the backfield and cause some disruption to that opposing quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd think about Xavier Thomas. He was a five

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Speaker 3: star recruit coming out of high school, one of the

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Speaker 3: most heralded high school players in the country. Goes to Clemson.

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Speaker 3: Kind of was underwhelming at Clemson for six years, didn't

501
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Speaker 3: really live up to kind of that high school hype.

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Speaker 3: But you know, to get him in the fifth round,

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Speaker 3: obviously there's there's talent there. He has the ability, He's

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Speaker 3: got the speed, the quickness, the strength, the pass rushing ability.

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter of getting the most out of him.

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Speaker 3: And so with b j o Jalari going down again

507
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Speaker 3: with injury, there's going to be ample opportunity for Xavier

508
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Speaker 3: Thomas to really have an impact this season immediately on

509
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Speaker 3: his Cardinals team. And that's not really something that you

510
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Speaker 3: always expect out of a fifth round guy. You know,

511
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Speaker 3: it's a a fifth rounder is usually a project or

512
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Speaker 3: somebody that you know is you got a little bit

513
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Speaker 3: maybe a longer term planned for or or hope for

514
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Speaker 3: to see if they develop. But he's going to have

515
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Speaker 3: every opportunity to flash and to be a big contributor

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Speaker 3: to that edge rush this year.

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Speaker 4: Well remember a year ago, Dante Stills a Day three pick,

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Speaker 4: Maybe not a lot of expectation, maybe not a lot

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Speaker 4: of opportunity, but injuries to that defensive line all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden open up the door for Stills and he

521
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: played very well to the point now this season, he's

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Speaker 4: a part of that six man, seven man rotation along

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Speaker 4: the defensive line, and if those injuries didn't happen, maybe

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals are still trying to figure out what they

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Speaker 4: have with that Day three pick. Sometimes you know, you

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Speaker 4: hate for your teammates to get hurt, but sometimes those

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Speaker 4: are blessings for an individual because it opens up a door.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you do with your opportunity? You know,

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Speaker 3: more than any position group, the defensive line is one

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Speaker 3: that rotates guys. Got to keep them fresh. They're big men.

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Speaker 3: You got to keep those guys fresh. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I expect from that outside linebacker position at edge rushing position,

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Speaker 3: that might be a committee that'll be looked to to

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Speaker 3: to really to get some production from that position. In

535
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Speaker 3: interior defensive line, they're gonna they're gonna rotate those guys

536
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Speaker 3: as well. So there's the difference between this year and

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Speaker 3: last year. Though, as you mentioned a lot of injuries,

538
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Speaker 3: last year, there wasn't the depth. Now you're starting to

539
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Speaker 3: see some depth at those positions, and that's something that

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals are going to bank on.

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Speaker 4: Xavier Tomas certainly looked good to us. How did he

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Speaker 4: look to the head coach. Here's Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 5: What I was impressed about with him is I, you know,

544
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Speaker 5: I let it rip, cut it loose, you know whatever

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Speaker 5: that means. I thought he did that. So that tells

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Speaker 5: me that he's comfortable, he's not thinking, and now it

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Speaker 5: shows what he can do physically, and I think that

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Speaker 5: jumped off the tape to me. Also, what jumped off

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Speaker 5: the tape about him is is he's doing what he's

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Speaker 5: coached to do, which for a rookie sometimes is hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to go back to maybe some

552
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Speaker 4: of those habits in college that worked for you, but

553
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Speaker 4: maybe you're being told not to do at the NFL

554
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: level and it's uncomfortable, but you're being taught something different

555
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Speaker 4: because that's what's required to be successful on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing, especially in the preseason, is you want

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Speaker 3: these guys to play fast, especially the rookies. You want

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Speaker 3: them to play fast and not have to think about

559
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: too many things, too many responsibilities that they might have.

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Speaker 3: So you simplify the defense, simplify the offense at times,

561
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Speaker 3: and just allow them to understand what the play call is,

562
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Speaker 3: understand what the responsibility is real quick and I'll go

563
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Speaker 3: get the ball. And you saw that from Xavier Thomas.

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Speaker 3: You didn't see any hesitation. You didn't see do I

565
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Speaker 3: have to look for reverse? Do I have to slow

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Speaker 3: down here now? That first play he came down the

567
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Speaker 3: line and ran over there and was effective in terms

568
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Speaker 3: of getting in on the play. So to see these

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Speaker 3: guys play fast and without any hesitation, that's that's one

570
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: of the biggest things that you look for, and it's

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Speaker 3: a huge indicator and in terms of what they're going

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Speaker 3: to be successful little wise this season.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned earlier earlier in the show on how well

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Speaker 4: Darius Robinson played ten snaps, tackle, drew a holding penalty.

575
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Speaker 4: We liked it. Well, Let's hear from Darius himself after

576
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Speaker 4: watching the film back what he thought of his NFL debut.

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Speaker 6: I like my confidence. I liked my hand placement, just

578
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Speaker 6: playing physical. What I didn't like was I got a

579
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Speaker 6: little too happy one of them. I kind of converted

580
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Speaker 6: to pass a little bit too fast, and then also

581
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Speaker 6: to knowing what they give me, kind of cheating my

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Speaker 6: linement a little bit or showing them a different look

583
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Speaker 6: so I can play a little bit faster. But those

584
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Speaker 6: are all good things that I can fix and you know,

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Speaker 6: walk away from that game like there was nothing that

586
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Speaker 6: I was like, Wow, I don't think I'm ready for that.

587
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Speaker 6: It was more like, oh, yeah, if I just fixed this,

588
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Speaker 6: fix this, I can keep making more steps.

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Speaker 4: We always are told about the details, and to hear

590
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Speaker 4: Darius talk about he was able to watch his plays,

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Speaker 4: his ten snaps on the sideline while the game was

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Speaker 4: going on. He watched it twice, watched it later that night,

593
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Speaker 4: watched it the next morning. Rob You have to like

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Speaker 4: the dedication that Darius has to the game and the

595
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Speaker 4: obsession that he has. It's a healthy obsession. He wants

596
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Speaker 4: to be the best Darius Robinson he can be, and

597
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Speaker 4: those are his words, and I do think there is

598
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Speaker 4: It's hard not to be too too excited about something

599
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Speaker 4: a player like Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got to respect that he's he's a student of

601
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Speaker 3: the game, and you know, but there's only so much

602
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: you can learn from just knowing where you're supposed to be,

603
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Speaker 3: knowing what you're supposed to do, what your what your

604
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Speaker 3: job is. There's so much more to this game that

605
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Speaker 3: that can be learned, but it can't be learned from

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Speaker 3: a from a playbook. So you got to get with

607
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Speaker 3: some of these veteran guys, Ball Nichols, Justin Jones, some

608
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Speaker 3: of the some of these veteran guys that can teach

609
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Speaker 3: him some of the little small things, some of the

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Speaker 3: intricacies about playing defensive line in terms of maybe you

611
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Speaker 3: know where your your your gap responsibility is, but maybe

612
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Speaker 3: you don't line up there. Maybe you line up somewhere

613
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Speaker 3: else to maybe try to affect the blocking scheme, and

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Speaker 3: last second you move to where you're supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: It's just some little, you know, little tricks of the

616
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Speaker 3: trade that these guys can impart on him and and

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Speaker 3: make him more effective than than he already is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's been fun to watch, not only

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Speaker 4: in practice but obviously Saturday in that preseason game. Head

620
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Speaker 4: coach Jonathan Gannon sorry pleased by what he has seen

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Speaker 4: from Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 5: This guy's a limit for the guy. You know, we're

623
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Speaker 5: pushing him, he pushes himself. So when you're you know,

624
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Speaker 5: trying to get better every day and have a plan

625
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 5: to get better every day, typically your game should be

626
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Speaker 5: elevated again.

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Speaker 4: Couple of rookies there, Xavier Thomas, Darius Robinson, another rookie,

628
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Speaker 4: Dadrian Taylor Demerson rabbit and true to his nickname, rabbit

629
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Speaker 4: all over the field. On Saturday night, four tackles tied

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Speaker 4: for the team lead, and it wasn't just the tackles,

631
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Speaker 4: but he always seemed to be around the ball, his

632
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Speaker 4: instincts where he needed to be, and something that Gannon

633
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 4: mentioned was being violent, not afraid of the contact, and

634
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Speaker 4: you're playing in that secondary, you can't be afraid of contact.

635
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was kind of the book on him

636
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Speaker 3: coming out of college. He was a one high safety,

637
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Speaker 3: so that means he was basically in charge of a

638
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Speaker 3: third of the of the field and from a one

639
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Speaker 3: high safety, he was the one remaining person, the last

640
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Speaker 3: line of defense and he so he had a long

641
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: way to go. A lot of times when especially pass

642
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: plays over towards the sidelines, he had a long way

643
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Speaker 3: to go to affect those plays and he was very

644
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Speaker 3: successful at that in college level. He takes great angles,

645
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Speaker 3: he has great anticipation. He as you said, he gets

646
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Speaker 3: there and he comes with force. You know. I think

647
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Speaker 3: he can be a really good safety in this league

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Speaker 3: and certainly a great backup and special teams player this season,

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Speaker 3: So I like what I saw from him. Uh, there

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Speaker 3: were some other players that you know that that really flashed. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: we talked about Michael Carter, I think on the offensive

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Speaker 3: side of the ball, what he was able to do

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Speaker 3: when he had the ball in his hands in terms

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Speaker 3: of just planting his foot and getting vertical and and

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Speaker 3: making plays happen. Those are those are good things to see.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a tough positional group again to

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Speaker 3: uh to really whittle it down and get to the

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Speaker 3: correct number. But Michael Carter certainly made a strong case Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard not to see where the decisions are

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Speaker 4: going to have to be made for this roster because

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Speaker 4: you have a loaded running back room. James Connor's making

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Speaker 4: this team, Trey Benson is making this team. Now is

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Speaker 4: it three running backs? Is it four running backs? Can

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Speaker 4: you dare keep five? Meaning the fifth is DJ Dallas,

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Speaker 4: who's maybe more of a special teams guy, So he

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Speaker 4: is now put in that specialist category. And all Michael

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Speaker 4: Carter can do is just keep performing like he did

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Speaker 4: on Saturday. Score touchdowns average almost six yards at carry.

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Speaker 4: Again goes back to our ongoing conversation with us Dan

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Speaker 4: Chisenna or Clayton Tune. What are you doing with the opportunity,

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Speaker 4: regardless of what time of the game it is or

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Speaker 4: who you're going up against, are you making the most

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Speaker 4: of those opportunities?

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Speaker 3: And at that position group, really so much is dependent

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Speaker 3: on also on how do you pass protect, how do

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Speaker 3: you block as a running back? And when you think

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Speaker 3: about that, I know the Arizona Cardinals coaching staff is

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Speaker 3: very high on de Mercado for that reason. He's just

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Speaker 3: a known pass protectionist. He really protects Kyler and does

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Speaker 3: a good job at that, and they feel confident in

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Speaker 3: that they trust that they trust him doing that. So

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be a difficult decision to make as far

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Speaker 3: as how many you keep and who do you keep

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Speaker 3: as far as the running back room, and that's something

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Speaker 3: that you know, it's gonna be interesting to see going

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Speaker 3: on in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: But better to have those tough discussions as opposed to

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Speaker 4: maybe you release a player and it's like okay, no

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Speaker 4: one even gives them a sniff, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: there's gonna be players that are gonna be on this

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Speaker 4: team that get released that are gonna land in other

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Speaker 4: players or other teams. Laughs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's not too long ago. Where guys would

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Speaker 3: get released and nobody would pick him up. That's not

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Speaker 3: going to be the case. Now, there's enough talent on

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Speaker 3: this roster, enough depth on this roster. There's gonna be

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Speaker 3: some difficult decisions and gonna, unfortunately, gonna gonna miss some guys.

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Speaker 4: One of those gentlemen that is a part of that

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Speaker 4: decision making group, Assistant GM Dave Sears. He sat down

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Speaker 4: with Dave Patch. It is episode seventy five of the

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Speaker 4: Day Patch podcast. Downloaded via Apple Podcast, Spotify, and the

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Speaker 4: This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio network.

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Speaker 5: A lot of that is going to depend on what

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Speaker 5: happens Wednesday and Thursday, truthfully, so you know all the

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Speaker 5: factors that go into that. You know, let's see where

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Speaker 5: we're at Thursday night, and then we'll make those decisions.

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Speaker 5: So the players right now are prepping for Hey, we're

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Speaker 5: going Indy for two very intense, hard, long practices that

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Speaker 5: are both gonna be you know up, so what you

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Speaker 5: normally say when you're talking about a car, right souped

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Speaker 5: up car. Then there's gonna be a mock game, and

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Speaker 5: then we're gonna play. That's their mind frame as they

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Speaker 5: getting on the plane.

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Speaker 4: Joint practices Thursday and Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday against the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 4: The preseason game is on Saturday. So as you heard

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon say, depending on what he sees, what he likes,

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Speaker 4: what he doesn't like Wednesday Thursday will determine who we

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Speaker 4: get to see Saturday in that preseason game. As we say,

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Speaker 4: welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Craig Reelu,

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Speaker 4: Rob Frederickson here on the two man edition of the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Sea Reports. And look, this is something that

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Speaker 4: more and more teams are doing. Several times during the preseason.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals are doing it once talking about the joint practices.

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Speaker 4: But Rob, you and I were talking off air about

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Speaker 4: the value that you believe joint practices have, and I

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Speaker 4: think more and more teams put the value on the

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Speaker 4: joint practice versus the preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Well, think about Darius Robinson, right, he got what ten

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Speaker 3: reps in the preseason game one. He's going to get

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Speaker 3: that in one on ones in one practice against the

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Speaker 3: indian Indianapolis Colts. So he and and there's not gonna

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Speaker 3: be any risk of injury. In those one on ones,

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Speaker 3: there's not going to be any other players falling on

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Speaker 3: his ankle or on his knee. It's it's gonna and

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be almost like a game setting. The the intensity,

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Speaker 3: the adrenaline is that much elevated in these joint practices.

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Speaker 3: Yet it's controlled, and that's what I think the coaching

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Speaker 3: staff and the players value out of this, because it's

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Speaker 3: you're you're going almost at game speed, but it's a

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Speaker 3: controlled environment. Nobody's going down to the ground, and yet

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Speaker 3: you're also able to receive instant feedback and coaching in

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Speaker 3: the moment. So to me, it's it's really where this

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Speaker 3: league is going, especially when it turns to eighteen regular

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Speaker 3: season games or they're going to eliminate one or two

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Speaker 3: preseason games. Just more teams are going to do these

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Speaker 3: joint practices. It just makes so much sense.

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Speaker 4: You can also set up situations goal line, second, third,

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Speaker 4: and long situations that you hope to work on but

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Speaker 4: maybe aren't guaranteed to see on a game day. But

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Speaker 4: here in a setting in which you said it it's controlled,

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Speaker 4: all right, this is the situation. We don't have to

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Speaker 4: wait for it to happen. On Saturday's preseason game. Let's

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Speaker 4: do it right now, and we can rep it a

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Speaker 4: couple of different ways to see what works, what doesn't work,

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Speaker 4: and it benefits both teams, I think, both the offense

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Speaker 4: and defense, depending on whatever is trying to be worked

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Speaker 4: on at that point.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Situations that may or may not come up

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Speaker 3: in a preseason game, you can control that and you

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Speaker 3: can create those situations. You can also just the volume

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Speaker 3: of reps that you're able to get in terms of

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Speaker 3: two practices joint practices versus a preseason game where half

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Speaker 3: the time the offense is on the field, the defense

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Speaker 3: is sitting on the sidelines. Well, in a joint practice,

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Speaker 3: the defense is on an entirely different field practicing against

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Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts offense at the same time. So you're

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Speaker 3: getting like double triple the amount of reps potentially in

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Speaker 3: one practice versus what you get in a preseason game.

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Speaker 3: So to me, there's just so much more on tape

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Speaker 3: that is coachable, both from an individual period standpoint team

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Speaker 3: nine on seven, seven on seven, There's so much volume

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Speaker 3: in terms of reps that that is coachable, and that's

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Speaker 3: that's really where the talent evaluation will will take place.

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Speaker 4: Players like it. Darius Robinson, this will be his first

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Speaker 4: opportunity at a joint practice, but he is coming prepared,

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Speaker 4: as he talked about earlier this week.

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Speaker 6: I'm just excited. Like I started watching. I watched their

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Speaker 6: game against Denver like twice already and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: start watching. I watched they they played the Eagles the

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Speaker 6: last game last season. I'll probably go back a few

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Speaker 6: more games because for me, I just love my preparation,

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Speaker 6: just seeing things beforehand before we get out there. So

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Speaker 6: this is excited for opportunity to compete.

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Speaker 4: All right, rob be honest, did you before a joint

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Speaker 4: practice watch tape of your opponent and go back to

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Speaker 4: the season before to watch tape of your opponent?

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Speaker 3: No, no, we didn't do that. But you know, one

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Speaker 3: thing that is beneficial for these joint practices is when

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Speaker 3: you're practicing against your own offense. Say if you're a

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Speaker 3: defensive player, you get to know their tendencies. You get

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Speaker 3: to know the offensive lines tendencies. You can identify what

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Speaker 3: the play is going to be by based on the

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Speaker 3: formation and what you're practicing at that particular time. So

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Speaker 3: you cheat, you you go basically ahead of you, when

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Speaker 3: you know where the play is actually going. You're not

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Speaker 3: going to have that opportunity going against an entirely different roster,

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Speaker 3: entirely foreign team in terms of just knowing what they

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Speaker 3: do and how they do it. So that is very beneficial,

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Speaker 3: really kind of gets everybody on a level playing field

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Speaker 3: and allows the guys to compete.

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Speaker 4: But I do like what Darius had to say there,

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Speaker 4: even though again it's okay, it's preseason, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: But if that's what he does to get ready for

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Speaker 4: a game, then that's going to translate from now into

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Speaker 4: September October. He this is how he gets ready. And

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Speaker 4: I love the work ethic because start it now because

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Speaker 4: it becomes difficult to add it later.

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Speaker 3: It's only going to benefit him and hey, in one

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Speaker 3: real quick you know, Gannon said, souped up like a car.

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Speaker 3: My son got a new car a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: It's black with red leather seats inside. He's dubbed it

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Speaker 3: the Gannon cannon.

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Speaker 4: All right, can you believe it? You need to have

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Speaker 4: him drive it out to the.

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Speaker 3: Cardinal's fever is real in the valley.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I have to get a picture of that put

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Speaker 4: it post it posted on the social.

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Speaker 3: Media there rob the Gannon Cannon.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 4: You can see Jonathan Gannon and his canon of players.

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Speaker 4: Coming up on Saturday four pm is Kickoff twelve thirty.

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