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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. I'm Karl nassa seven year NFL veteran,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of the Rays app. This is the NFL

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Speaker 1: Player's Second Acts podcast.

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Speaker 2: There we go, There we go?

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Speaker 3: Wait was it just for him like a sound bite?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, gosh, you just killed their mob. What's up everybody?

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Speaker 4: Alt peanut to me and this is the NFL Players

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Speaker 4: Second Act Podcast and with me as always my late friend.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'm still alive.

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Speaker 4: Wait, you are alive, but you're not my my my unpunctual,

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Speaker 4: my punctual friend up was not on time?

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Speaker 2: My guy? Who's my Tory friend? Roman Harbor? What's so?

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Speaker 2: Maybe how you feeling? I'm doing good man? I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I like what you're wearing. You got the Alabama here

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Speaker 4: in New York for hosting us this weekend. It's been

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Speaker 4: really great time. So Peanut, uh, let's introduce our guests.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, we got a we got a local.

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Speaker 4: We got a local. Guy is a local. He just

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Speaker 4: drove right on over in his Yukon Grandma Driver.

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Speaker 2: Letters were going.

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Speaker 4: He's a third round pick in the twenty sixteen draft

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Speaker 4: out of Penn State. I played seven seasons in the

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Speaker 4: NFL as a defensive end linebacker with the Browns Raiders

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Speaker 4: on the Bucks, recorded twenty five and a half sacks

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Speaker 4: in his career. He is now the CEO of a

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Speaker 4: tech company called Race. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 2: Carl Nasa, Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: All right, So, Carl, how does it feel to be

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Speaker 4: a champion of the Slow Driver's Crew.

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Speaker 1: It's great, man, It's a it's a crown that I,

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Speaker 1: you know, take very seriously and represents the slow drivers.

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Speaker 1: My little brother is constantly get his feet. I mean, wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to get anywhere that quickly. Man, I'm retired,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's because this energy. Are you podcast? Are you a

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Speaker 2: ten and two driver?

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Speaker 1: I'm just like a six. I just like chill down here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah.

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Speaker 4: You like here, or like I like you a little

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Speaker 4: bit more now because you said you were six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I'm chilling, you know what I mean. Sharing the Sloan

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Speaker 2: drivers that are ten and to y'all make me sick.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't a little bit run road. I

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Speaker 2: got it. I got soccer practice, I got to go

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Speaker 2: to I like living in New York this year.

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Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit of you know, road rage,

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Speaker 1: like seeping into my bloodstream. Like there's something about the

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Speaker 1: city learning driving through that. I was driving home. I

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Speaker 2: On this, go for it, so let it fly, let

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Speaker 1: I'm downtown, like you know, I think it's Tribeca where

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Speaker 1: So there's some transitions happening on a deeper level that

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Speaker 4: This all started because before we started this whole conversation,

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Speaker 1: He's like, I just kind of I mean, another thing

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. There's something about living in

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Speaker 1: It's like an unspoken competition about who's the busiest. And

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Speaker 2: In New York? It's so easy? You know.

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Speaker 1: Like you just get to go out there player sport, Like, no,

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it's pretty nice. You know, you can't exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So like nothing comparison football, nothing compares to that type

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Speaker 4: All right, So tell me what is the best thing

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Speaker 4: about retirement so far? You've used the term a couple

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Speaker 1: It's, uh, you know, the top five is watching football.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I it was the last thing I expected,

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Speaker 1: So that's definitely number one. I'm really surprised at how

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Speaker 1: It's it's really I can't wait to go to a

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Speaker 1: football is and one of at least the most surprising

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Speaker 2: Yeah cool, I didn't think you'd say that. I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I just really enjoy watching the game.

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Speaker 2: Now it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I used to get so annoyed at these commentators because like,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and

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Speaker 1: they're explaining things to my European boyfriend, it doesn't know

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Speaker 1: oh man, they're explaining things, you know, like their commentary

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Speaker 1: what do you miss, if anything about the game. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's a lot. I miss a lot. I miss It's weird.

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Speaker 4: You still do that, I know, but it's like I.

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Speaker 1: Was not giving these I was like, if you were

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Speaker 1: to like to do this again tomorrow, I can couple

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Speaker 1: But I have this like weird inner urge to sprint

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Speaker 1: I miss playing the game, like I really miss just

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Speaker 4: Time you sprinted like full speed, You're right, Carl, you

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Speaker 4: I like like gutted it, gutted it like you're trying

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Minute is probably good for this.

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Speaker 2: I think I should totally do that.

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Speaker 1: I might say you're the dust when we've done, let's

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Speaker 1: go on the streeting in sprint. Do you want to

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Speaker 4: Let's do it. I don't think I want to be

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Speaker 2: Let's do It'll be expensive, to be really expensive. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I want to be Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, that's the most expensive ambulance.

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Speaker 4: So what I want to know is you finally got

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Speaker 4: to start your senior year. And when you and senior

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Speaker 4: you went to Penn State dominated your senior year. I

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Speaker 4: read you barely started in high school.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was a late bloomer and like the

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Speaker 1: in high school when I was a freshman in high school,

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Speaker 1: every single year. And I was really lucky to get

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Speaker 1: a walk on spot at Penn State. And it took me.

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Speaker 1: I got my scholarship after two years, but then it

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Speaker 1: took me to my fifth year to get at that

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Speaker 1: I got fifteen and a half sacks in ten games,

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Speaker 1: and then I, you know, yeah, it was just really cool,

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Speaker 1: you know, broke the Penn State single season record.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, man, come on with some respect on

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Speaker 1: And so I actually just went back for a Penn

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Speaker 2: Do you know how to code?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, dude, I don't know a thing about coding.

436
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Speaker 1: My developer, Jim, shout out Jim, he's the best.

437
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Speaker 2: Jim.

438
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to college at like fifteen or something

439
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: like that.

440
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of those. Yeah, one of those. He's a legend.

441
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 2: You know.

442
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Speaker 1: We have a great partnership a Volunteer Match. They're an

443
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: amazing nonprofit that other nonprofits used to get volunteers and

444
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: we're working with them and you know, collaborating.

445
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 2: So it's it's going really really well.

446
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm a little slow. I'm a criminal

447
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 4: justice major. I don't have a big brain. You look

448
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 4: like you got a big brain. You went to Penn State.

449
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 4: You measured in biology. Yeah right, So where did the

450
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 4: whole tich idea come from?

451
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

452
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: So I have no background in running a business. I'm

453
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: a football player with a degree in biology. So you know,

454
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 1: it came from that experience in Tampa, and it had

455
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Speaker 1: We've pivoted multiple times. As I've gone to know the

456
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: nonprofit industry, you realize that, you know, the common pain

457
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: points between all these different nonprofits. How are they meeting donors?

458
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: You've realized, you know the problems that every individual donor

459
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: is having, like you know, you guys walk the streets,

460
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: you get you know, the solicitation of these people from

461
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: Save the Children, an American Red Cross. They have the iPads

462
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: take twenty minutes to donate through them. Right, So when

463
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: you solve little problems that millions of people use, that's

464
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: a very valuable solution. It's not rocket science, right, We're

465
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Speaker 1: just removing friction. And you know, I just have really

466
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: learned it from doing it for almost half a decade.

467
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Speaker 1: And you know, retiring was a lot tougher than I

468
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Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. And so a month

469
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Speaker 1: post I didn't I had this conversation today. I had

470
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Speaker 1: no idea how actually stressed I was this summer about retiring,

471
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Speaker 1: like I've been this whole month of September and now

472
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Speaker 1: and now we're in October. Like I've been so happy

473
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: because I was not. I didn't realize how stressed I

474
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Speaker 1: was about retiring, because it's you're leaving this entire career

475
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Speaker 1: that you've had since pressure grade.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

477
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Speaker 1: So even though I did have like a business and

478
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm so passionate about raise, it was still

479
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Speaker 1: really hard. So very yeah, it hit I've been saying that.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I agree with it. Yeah, I totally agree

481
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Speaker 2: with that.

482
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Speaker 1: And so now I'm feeling really good about it and

483
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: watching a lot of football. Yeah, you know, I got

484
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: a lot of my former teammates are investing in raise

485
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Speaker 1: getting a part of it. Like that's really really exciting

486
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Speaker 1: as well. What's been the toughest part about the retirement? Like,

487
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Speaker 1: I know, so for me, I didn't.

488
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Speaker 2: I didn't take any time off.

489
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Speaker 4: I know you took your you took your time off,

490
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Speaker 4: but yeah, you essentially, I mean, I don't know a star

491
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Speaker 4: playing eighth grade. Yeah, and then I retired at thirty

492
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: four and you get in this regiment of and I know,

493
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Speaker 4: for me, it was just like Dan, what what do

494
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Speaker 4: I do next?

495
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Speaker 2: Like, man, I feel weird. I feel this is yah.

496
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Speaker 4: I don't I'm not in my locker room on my teammates.

497
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm you know, are you missing?

498
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Speaker 1: Probably the camaraderie, man, Like there's nobody funnier than like

499
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Speaker 1: a group of football players.

500
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Speaker 2: Sure you know what I mean.

501
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Speaker 1: So my buddy bo Allen, shout out bo Allen. He

502
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Speaker 1: just started this segment on his podcast called low Lights,

503
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Speaker 1: and I was just on it last week. So he does, like,

504
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: your worst plays in the NFL, you know those like

505
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL moments yea, and it is I'm like,

506
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 1: I was crying laughing, like it was so funny, Like

507
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: I miss like like the film Day After After and

508
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: someone gets their ass b like that is all funny.

509
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've all been there.

510
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Speaker 1: That is.

511
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Speaker 2: It's like I was crying laughing. It was so funny.

512
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Speaker 1: And so that's one of the biggest things I miss

513
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Speaker 1: is like when the day after a game, hopefully a win,

514
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Speaker 1: like watching the film chopping it up, laughing and then

515
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: going home and you know, having Tuesday off. So that

516
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Speaker 1: was like, a that's something I missed for.

517
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Speaker 4: So do you think like your stress factor are because

518
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 4: you missed the game, you missed the people, or it

519
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: was just like you just didn't know you didn't know

520
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 4: what to do. Well, you kind of knew what to

521
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 4: do next, but it was like I still don't have

522
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Speaker 4: like this one thing I've had my whole life, I think.

523
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Speaker 4: And for me, it was more like I think I

524
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Speaker 4: felt anxiety for like the first time in my life

525
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: when I all of a sudden, I looked up and

526
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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't even think I knew what

527
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Speaker 4: anxiety was.

528
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Speaker 1: That it's like a feeling that you didn't feel before

529
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Speaker 1: trying to assess it right, and so you felt it

530
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Speaker 1: after retirement or like right before it.

531
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Speaker 4: No, after retirement, like I was aft. It was also

532
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Speaker 4: like all right, now I'm trying to figure out what

533
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Speaker 4: I want to do.

534
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Speaker 2: I knew I was cool, I.

535
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Speaker 4: Was ready, but then all of a sudden, what's the

536
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Speaker 4: next chapter? And me in that process for me was

537
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 4: like all right, I'm sitting here while me and the wife.

538
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's cool to go to lunch and stuff

539
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: every day, but like she's sick of me, and I

540
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: think I'm sick of her too.

541
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it can lead to I

542
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Speaker 1: was like, don't out of the house.

543
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Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, she doesn't listen to us.

544
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Speaker 1: So I think like athletes are so goal oriented. You know,

545
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Speaker 1: you have personal goals, team goals, Like ever since you're

546
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Speaker 1: a kid, you have a goal of making the NFL.

547
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: When you get to the NFL, what's your goal?

548
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl? You know what I mean?

549
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Speaker 1: Like you live your entire life on milestones and goals.

550
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Speaker 1: So when you're tired in the NFL, like if you

551
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Speaker 1: don't maintain that mentality and like that kind of reward

552
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Speaker 1: of you know, hitting milestones, achieving things. Small goals as

553
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Speaker 1: little as they are, that kind of kind of lead

554
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Speaker 1: into bigger goals that kind of like throws you off.

555
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Speaker 1: So I know I would recommend other players that are

556
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Speaker 1: retiring moving on the next chapter is like constantly set

557
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Speaker 1: goals for yourself because you know, I'm motivated by visions

558
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Speaker 1: of the future. I think, like when I'm in bed

559
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: at night, I'm thinking about cool things that I can

560
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: do in the future, and that's what like really makes

561
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Speaker 1: me happy, gets me motivated. So going from being an athlete,

562
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: you're always doing that just naturally, so having something to

563
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Speaker 1: do after that is important.

564
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Speaker 4: I know you talked about with Rays here and you

565
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 4: had the whole pivot situation. You're going back and forth

566
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Speaker 4: and it's not exactly how well you had this vision,

567
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 4: but it's not exactly it's turned into way more than

568
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Speaker 4: what you thought it was originally. Well, I want to

569
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Speaker 4: go back to the time you spent at the youth

570
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Speaker 4: Detention center. Sure, like being in there, what was in

571
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Speaker 4: there that made you besides the fact they're like, man,

572
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Speaker 4: this is like right down the road here totally, but

573
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Speaker 4: like how did this be Like all right, how did

574
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Speaker 4: it turn into Okay, well I want to do this

575
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Speaker 4: and now I got I got this business, I gotta

576
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Speaker 4: start or.

577
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Speaker 2: Whatever it is.

578
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Speaker 4: Just tell me what that whole, that whole vibe was

579
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Speaker 4: like going in there, being in these youth detention centers.

580
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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever been one myself. So two

581
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: things really stuck out to me, or stick out to

582
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Speaker 4: me now. The first thing is, you know, their thirteen

583
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Speaker 4: year old kids in there, and they have no books.

584
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Speaker 4: They're reading Doctor Seuss, so like they weren't you know,

585
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Speaker 4: this wasn't like they were in jail. This was like,

586
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Speaker 4: you know, they were picked up off the street, running

587
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Speaker 4: away from, like I said, a violent home environment. So

588
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Speaker 4: it was more like a processing thing, and they were

589
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Speaker 4: just kind of waiting for a few days, maybe a week,

590
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Speaker 4: two weeks. I don't know exactly how long they were there,

591
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 4: but it definitely wasn't an extended period of time. But

592
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: while they were there all day for days at a time,

593
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: like they had no books to read and they were

594
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Speaker 4: just wanting a little bit of something. I don't even

595
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: know if they can have phones.

596
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Speaker 1: I feel like they just wanted books, and so that

597
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: like something so small, you know, they don't want to

598
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: read Doctor Seuss. They want to read something that they

599
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: can get educated or you know, be entertained by. So

600
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, that really stuck out to me, something so

601
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: simple that they needed. And then looking back on it now,

602
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: I was having this conversation a month ago with somebody

603
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you know, very rarely do people

604
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: realize that those opportunities the NFL presents to players can

605
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: actually be life changing. Yea, you know what I mean,

606
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: Like this is something that was the Bucks set up,

607
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, through their community relations, just like they do

608
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: it almost every Tuesday. You guys know what it is like,

609
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: you know the Tuesday you know, like guys sign up. Yeah,

610
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: it's like maybe if your family, yeah, exactly, the weekly

611
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: service day. So you know, some people think like, oh,

612
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: it's just for image. No, this could be a life

613
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: changing opportunity and it actually has changed my life, which

614
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: is kind of a wild to think about it. Five

615
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: years ago, Like you you sign up for something on

616
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: a random Tuesday, you don't realize it can totally alter

617
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: the trajectory of your life in a really really positive

618
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: and meaningful way. So those two things like really stick

619
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: out to me now looking back on it, and so

620
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm super thankful that I was given that opportunity, and

621
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Speaker 1: I hope that NFL players that are now in the league,

622
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: college players too. Like giving back to your community and

623
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: getting involved really can impact you in such a crazy

624
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: meaningful way.

625
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: I tell this to people all the time.

626
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: It's like, so often people think when you show up

627
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 4: to these charity events or these other things, They're like, oh, man,

628
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: you're pouring into them, and I'm like, dude, you so

629
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: much more walk away.

630
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: Have totally fulfilled.

631
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: And it's like, man, I feel so much more energized

632
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: because I feel more poured into than what people understand

633
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: that I had to do this talk to this morning.

634
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Speaker 2: That's why I was a little tardy speaking. Man. We

635
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: put up this wall. Put up the wall. Man, just

636
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: put up this wall.

637
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: It's a this abusive relationship with you know what I'm saying.

638
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Do you feel that? Yeah, I'm got to moderate this.

639
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm going get it together. Thank you? Could you please

640
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: get it together? I'm sorry?

641
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: And so yeah, just like I feel so much more

642
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 4: poured into good.

643
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: That makes me happy. Yeah, man, thank you for that.

644
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: So I just think I just think that's just a

645
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: real life experience, and I feel like you clearly have

646
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: been feel more fulfilled after doing.

647
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: This totally, totally.

648
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Speaker 1: I was a businessmen going it's been going great, It's

649
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: it's really busy. I feel like I get imposter syndrome

650
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: a lot. You know, being a football player with a

651
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: degree in biology, you know, it's very humbling when I'm

652
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: building sales funnels and creating marketing you know, marketing plans

653
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: and really doing things outside my comfort zone. But there

654
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of parallels from football to business, and

655
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: I really try and you know, lean into those. Like

656
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: everybody that works for me, I ask them, like, how

657
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: do I put you in a position to make you

658
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: do what you do best?

659
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: Right?

660
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: So many times in the NFL you get a coach.

661
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: You got to do it my way.

662
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so freaking frustrating, right when you have something

663
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: that you know you're good at, you've done it your

664
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: whole life, and then you come into a new job,

665
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: a new coach, new boss, and they make you do

666
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: it totally different. So you know, with my team at Raise,

667
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: I want people to be happy. I want people to

668
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: be feel valued, and you know that actually resonates and

669
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: that is something that like We've really made a staple

670
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: of you know, our working relationships and it's been really great.

671
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: I you know, there's passion in giving back and like, yeah,

672
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, you go from football where it's the most

673
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,239
Speaker 1: passionate people like you love it, right, And so now

674
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm working I vote my life to work with nonprofits

675
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: and empowering nonprofits and increasing their revenue or reducing their costs.

676
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: And it's like you meet people who are so passionate

677
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: about their life, you know, I really you know, you

678
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: can get a corporate job and like people are just

679
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: kind of doing it to cash a check. But you know,

680
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: when you work with nonprofits, they really do voting their

681
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: lives to other people, and they have so much passion.

682
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of parallels there and passion projects. Yeah,

683
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: working when you do those, yeah, I mean sometimes sometimes

684
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: you feel like he was working today for your passion

685
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: project this morning.

686
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, No, My passion project right now is is

687
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: you know I work for the SEC network. Car I

688
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: don't know if you.

689
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: Know that, but my passion yea, my passion project right

690
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: now is I think I can make.

691
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's defense better.

692
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: Oh nice, Like I'm watching the film Hardcore right now,

693
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: and they run they run mostly quarters for three but

694
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: they just like a lot of bad eye violations, like

695
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: a lot of little things. And I feel like, as

696
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: I'm starting to build up more and more film on them,

697
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna like I'm gonna take like a whole twenty

698
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: minutes on one of my shows and like, this is

699
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: my passion probably just really I've been pointing. I got

700
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: all kinds of notes, but this is like my core

701
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: passion project right now is Vanderbilt's Defense.

702
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: Okay, very cool, thank you. So yeah, I do feel

703
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: good about it though. Okay, maybe it's not like you're

704
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: gonna kill it. Man, I believe in you. Thank you, Yes,

705
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: thanks dog, thank you. All right, well up on him, man,

706
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and we'll be

707
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: right back.

708
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: In twenty fourteen, Michael Sam came out and was drafted

709
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: as an openly gay person and it was super controversial

710
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 4: at the time. All right, then you came out as

711
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: the first openly gay person that was a current player active,

712
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: and it was almost like it was very accepted. You

713
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: said it, and everybody was like, man, great job, proud

714
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: of this, and we moved on. It wasn't even it

715
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: was just a blip on the radar. Really, I thought

716
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: it'd been way It was not at all. I don't

717
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: know if you.

718
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: Felt it or not, but that was really what it was.

719
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: And then this past year, the Jaguar strength coach Kevin

720
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: Maxon came out and I heard I read that he'd

721
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: actually talked to you a little bit and he said

722
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: like cause he was really like, all right, well, I

723
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: want to continue to not try and hide who I am.

724
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: I want to be I want to feel like I'm

725
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: myself and it's okay. But he was also so nervous

726
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: about other people's opinion about him, and but you encouraged him,

727
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: like do it was all good and it was almost

728
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: and then now he was celebrated. Yeah, So like, can

729
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: you talk about the evolution for sure of that and

730
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: what the NFL is together and what is where it

731
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: stands today?

732
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

733
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know, in culture in the United States

734
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: as really in the last ten years. I mean it's

735
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Same sex marriage was legalized in twenty fifteen,

736
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: and that you know, Mike came out in twenty fourteen,

737
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: and so I feel like that was a huge turning

738
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: point in a lot of people's eyes like okay, now,

739
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: like you have the laws behind him, Like it shifts culture.

740
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: It really outlines how people should be respected. And so

741
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: for everybody that was involved in that, you know, I

742
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: always say, like politics are downstream of culture, right, So

743
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: there was a lot of work, and I always I

744
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: always give thanks and like appreciate everybody that came before

745
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: me and like lay the groundwork for me to be

746
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: in this position, you know what I mean, People like

747
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: Michael Sam, people like our Kay Russell who came out

748
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: and you know, put the work in and like those

749
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: are all the people that I am very thankful for.

750
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: And I try and actively, you know, help people coming

751
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: after me. And so you know, I'm very thankful of

752
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: all the support that I got when I came out.

753
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years and I'm still getting people,

754
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, messaging me and coming up to me saying

755
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: how that impacted them. And you know, when I talked

756
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: to Kevin over a year ago, and remember when it was,

757
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: it was definitely last year. You know, he was taking

758
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: his time. And that's my thing is like I never

759
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: want to rush anybody in their journey. It's such a

760
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: it's such a unique and special journey. And it's like

761
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen in a day, right, it's a very yeah,

762
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: it's a long process. Like, yeah, so journey, you know,

763
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: everyone's journey is different. And so Kevin is doing a

764
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: great job and like he has the respect of his team,

765
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: other coaches, everything, and so you know, I'm very very

766
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: proud of him, very very proud of everybody that you know,

767
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: has come before me. And yeah, I really I can't

768
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: say enough how lucky that I am. And I hope

769
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: that I'm doing a good job of continuing to like

770
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: carry the torch of everyone and that's come before me,

771
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: And so people that come after me, can you know,

772
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: have a better experience than I even did, which will

773
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: be ten out of ten for them.

774
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I mean.

775
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: Well, this is one question that's kind of off the wall,

776
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 4: and it's like, I mean, you had a great experience

777
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 4: besides Tyran Smith, Right.

778
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you ever go up against Trent Williams? Yeah?

779
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: All right, So which one was worse?

780
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 4: Because Trent Williams was the scariest mofo I've ever had

781
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: to go up against. Like I begged him to let

782
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: me go one time because he's in December.

783
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: I played the Niners in the summer this December, and

784
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: Trent moves and he pulls and they do a lot

785
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: of things. Mean, Kyle Shannon, that blocking scheme is illegal.

786
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: He should be illegal. I mean he's a genius. He's

787
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: a certified genius.

788
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: And he's like he's like a tea shirt playing amongst

789
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: amongst students. Like their their scheme is pretty ridiculous. And

790
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean they still use a fullback right, like yeah

791
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: they do, so no, no.

792
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Dig on juice.

793
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: But in December, we were playing the Niners and I

794
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: was like on a one on one block with Trent

795
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: and then white Boy long hair Kittle, Yeah, sorry, long

796
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: Day Kittle came and like came out of nowhere and

797
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: just like hit me four yards, Like where do you

798
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: come from?

799
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 2: Like they're they're they're going all over the place.

800
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I think Tyrone really like but that

801
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: was seven years ago that he played him. Yeah, I mean,

802
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: I have no perspective changed very quickly, yeah what I mean?

803
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Trent's that dude. Though I think he

804
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: probably moves better than Tyrone. I don't know who's stronger,

805
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: but Trent's.

806
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: I also want everybody to realize like how important NFL

807
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 4: locker room is. Like to hear Carl the way he

808
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: describes players, like, oh, it's this white guy, long hair,

809
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: like black got that like football, Like we don't care

810
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 4: about a lot of things. I would understand, like it

811
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: should have been a blip on the radar when you

812
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: came out because as guys and players like, we just

813
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: genuinely don't care. Can you help with hys ring? That's

814
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: all we want a ring with you?

815
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: It's like one that.

816
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: It just goes to all these like really backward stereotypes

817
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: about football players in general outside of like you know

818
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: what I mean, that we're unintelligent, uneducated, homophobic, like just

819
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: stuck in the sand.

820
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: That is so not true, and it's probably one of

821
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: the most open places, you know what I mean.

822
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Football and sports in general are just like you get

823
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: people coming from all different walks of life, from all

824
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: different experiences, and you have to work together because the

825
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: reward is so insanely amazing, you know what I mean,

826
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: Like you can just really change your life, your family's

827
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: lives through sports, and that's very rare in other industries.

828
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: So you have to like come together and work together

829
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: and and just like Can we work together? Can I

830
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: trust you? Like we all are dependent on each other's success, right,

831
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: so most of us are. And I don't know how

832
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: it depends. I am on a kicker success, but you

833
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah, I hate long snappers do here.

834
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: They're not in shape. All they do is play golf. Yeah,

835
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: they played golf.

836
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: They're not even like be in shape at least like

837
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: self respect.

838
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

839
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, we don't care about anything else except

840
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: if you're a long staff.

841
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, that's the only thing.

842
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: You gotta walk, you know, walk on the eggshells around us.

843
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I agree with you, like you got

845
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: to forget everything else, Like can you help us win?

846
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. It's one of the coolest things.

847
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: One of the craziest things that we've been experiencing right

848
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: now is this, uh, this Swifty has taken over.

849
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: I mean he's literally taken over the lead. Let's talk

850
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: about it. First of all, you're swifty. Come on, man,

851
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: check the tape. Check the tape. We talked about this

852
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: on the day.

853
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: Check check Hard Knocks Bro talked about it.

854
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: I got out of the NFL too quick just because

855
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: of this.

856
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: Okay, this is two worlds colliding. I've been a Swifty

857
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: since high school, Okay, you know what I mean.

858
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: I almost don't even like.

859
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: All these bandwagon front like fans of t Swift. Like

860
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: I went to her concert two nights in a row

861
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: in Philly front row. It was the best experience of

862
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: my life. It was three and a half hours of

863
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: purely for you. She is like ten out of ten

864
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm in. I mean, I'm in a huge Swifty for

865
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: half my life, it's been She's the.

866
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: Best, you know what I mean?

867
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: And you know, having her at the games, watching the NFL,

868
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean it is. I mean like it's like America

869
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: had never been at the strongest, Like this is, this

870
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: is peak existence for this country.

871
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: You know, put them on put them on a.

872
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: Ticket for like vice president president, they will get it done.

873
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: I just believe in this, you know what I mean,

874
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Like the United States has never been stronger than before

875
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: Taylor in the NFL collapsed and so I'm here for it.

876
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: I love it. She was just here in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

877
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: I met her. What did you buy to impress her?

878
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: When did you meet her? So?

879
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: I met her in twenty seventeen. This is actually one

880
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: of the funny stories of all the time, and your funnies,

881
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: your stories have been very like hilarious, hilarious, and so

882
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: one of the guitarists for Paul Sadoti shout out Paul,

883
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: He's the best.

884
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: Paul. He is best.

885
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: Friends with the equipment manager of the Browns, Brad at

886
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: the Browns, shout out Brat. So like they hooked it

887
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: up where she was playing at the brown Stadium and

888
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: so you know, I got a mirror backstages before COVID,

889
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: before everything else where you could, like she would see

890
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: fans before State. So it's literally me and like all

891
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: these little girls and their parents.

892
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: And me, I'm in the back like waiting.

893
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: So like they bring a group in the like meter

894
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: at a time, and it's like all these little girls.

895
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: She goes, Oh, are these your daughters, And I was like, no,

896
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm by myself.

897
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: So it was like I I like gave her a

898
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: signed jersey, said hello, took a photo. She was absolutely lovely.

899
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a huge fan. I got to meet

900
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: her parents. They were huge Penn State fans. They're just

901
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: a great family. So yeah, I've been a swifty for

902
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: for too long. And now I'm just happy everyone's catch

903
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: it up. I'm a trend setter, you know, dude, I'm

904
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: part of the behive as well.

905
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: Check the tape. So if I had to actually to

906
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: shoes swifty, yeah, yeah.

907
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: Actually, on that same episode of of Hard Knocks you

908
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: talked about compound interest. I was surprised, like how educated, Like, well,

909
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 4: not how educated you were, but like, man, the education process,

910
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: Like I don't think enough people understand how much that

911
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: happens in NFL locker rooms as well, where like you

912
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: have young guys come in that truly just don't understand

913
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: about money, the potential of money. And when you start

914
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: to ask these questions, how much and how many of

915
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 4: us actually learn things that are important, that are more

916
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: often life lessons going forward. And now you talked about

917
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: compounding interest, like you take this one hundred thousand dollars,

918
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 4: but you know you keep it in the bank, and

919
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: what compounding interest does you know? You earn this percentage

920
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: and by next year you earn this much more percentage.

921
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 4: You continue to stack and stack and stack, and so

922
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: it was a great job by Yanks mans. I mean

923
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: they say compounding is this eighth wonder of the world. Man,

924
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 4: It's something that people need to realize. And when you're

925
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: a young NFL player, you get a lot of money,

926
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 4: very young and very quick. Being an investor, a young investor,

927
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: you have all the years to you know, make your

928
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: money work for you. And you know, NFL athletes and

929
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 4: now college athletes, high school athletes can now make money

930
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: through NIL. I mean, this is a huge opportunity. Like

931
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 4: I said, I was sneaking into the yeah, yeah.

932
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: The dining hall.

933
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: I mean kids, how false a g Yeah what I'm saying.

934
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: So you then I actually posted about that. That's annoying

935
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: the walk ons in and get any No, that pisses

936
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: me off.

937
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

938
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: No, you're just like really yeah, I know, God, I'm

939
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: in here just lifting all these weights.

940
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Not pumped the gas like they got pumped the gas.

941
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's that's their all. That doesn't surprise me.

942
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: No, But like you see at the bottom, like they're

943
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: responsible for the tax implications because anytime they get anything,

944
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: there's tax implications, Like the government will come after you.

945
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: They do not care how old you are, they do

946
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: not care who you are. They will put anybody in jail.

947
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: Right, The I R.

948
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: S Is not around, you know, so like when you

949
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: give these kids money, you you know they're getting, they're

950
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: getting something. Well in October, you know, come April of

951
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, they're like, oh, ten thousand dollars on

952
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: this car. I don't have ten thousand dollars in cash, right,

953
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: So then you can't pay it. Then you get fine,

954
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: and then they come after you, and then what do

955
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: you get. You get these young guys who are going

956
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: to get deals, and then they're going to try and

957
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: hide that income in certain ways, and that's when tax

958
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: evasion comes, and that's where they get really, really in

959
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: big trouble. So I actually work with Financial Finesse and

960
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: so what they do is they provide financial wellness workshops

961
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: as a benefit to employers, and they actually started to

962
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: do that with college and high school athletes.

963
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: So I will always say I love NIL.

964
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: I love the fact that college players can actually get

965
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: their fair share and they deserve it. But there needs

966
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: to be resources, it needs to be education, right, and

967
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: so honestly it might even be a benefit. Like you know,

968
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: you hear the stories about NFL players mismanaging their money,

969
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: trusting their wrong people, and now they can kind of

970
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: with NIL move that learning curve back for yeah, like yeah,

971
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: move it up, move it back to college. So like

972
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: maybe make those mistakes and maybe learn when you're eighteen,

973
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: because it's kind of hard to tell a twenty five

974
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: year old who's making millions of dollars what to do.

975
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: Now they get somebody only makes you more and what

976
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, that's a magnifier. That's actually a great point. Yeah,

977
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, it's a magnifier. I really

978
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: like magnifies you're you know, it's like.

979
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: You're jackass, you're bigger jackass. If you're a humble part,

980
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: you become more humble. Yeah, it's it's really it's been

981
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 4: very interesting because I think we do have to continue

982
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: to as this thing builds out. It's so brand new,

983
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 4: brand new brand, and everybody thinks it's just one thing. Look,

984
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: I mean, the Ires try to get me for taxes

985
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: from California when I never even played in California because

986
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: I've played a preseason game out there, but they wanted

987
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: like regular season money. Okay, and this is like eight

988
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 4: years worse of like they said, I got a call.

989
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: From Ohio this morning, eight thirty am u OS money.

990
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: I was like wh's.

991
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm not kidding. Eight thirty am this morning, I

992
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: get a.

993
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 6: Call like what so, uh, yeah, they just real And

994
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 6: so those are the cameras all the same things and

995
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 6: issues that these young people are going to have to

996
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 6: under standing, going to have to learn, and as we

997
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: continue to give them dollars and cents, I want to

998
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 6: make sure we continue to.

999
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: Educate totally because a lot of times when these players

1000
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: are getting this money, they're not coming from homes or

1001
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: parents that are making this type of money. Sure, so

1002
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 4: the parents can't really teach them to make sure they

1003
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: look after they don't know, Yeah, because they don't know.

1004
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: And so a lot of this is life experience for sure,

1005
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: and the conversation need to continue to be had.

1006
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: So I one to number one, I want to applaud

1007
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: you for that. That was a great clip. I appreciate it.

1008
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: Going back on that, and you got to make take

1009
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: the swift too. Did you teach Tom? Did you give

1010
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: Tom Brady any advice any financial advice when you bring

1011
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 4: down compounds?

1012
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: Tom was way smarter than me, So any advice that

1013
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: I give him, he's probably you know, pushing to.

1014
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: The dude is a sharvis attack. Dude is a star.

1015
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's got this whole team of people that

1016
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 4: lets him know what's up with money.

1017
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: You know what financial education does. It like presents an

1018
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: opportunity to build generational wealth invests in all these different companies,

1019
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: different CEOs, different politicians that represent you, represent people like you.

1020
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: It's just like a huge missed opportunity if we don't

1021
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: provide education and resources. You know, I was on the

1022
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Raiders and I was like, you know, we have mental

1023
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: health resources now. The NFL really pushing there's a lot

1024
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: of like, uh, I can't remember the exact terminology if

1025
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: it's like a certified mental health clinician something along those lines.

1026
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: I think the NFL has to put like exactly about that, right. Yeah,

1027
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: so it's really amazing stuff.

1028
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1029
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: So Solomon Thomas plays for the Jets, played with me

1030
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: in Vegas, like he is one of the biggest, you know,

1031
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: advocates for mental health and I have so much respect

1032
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: for him. And there's been so much movement on that front.

1033
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I would go to the Raiders and

1034
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: I go to other teams and I'm like, how do

1035
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: we get certified financial planners in the building.

1036
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: But there's a little bit of liability.

1037
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: Issue where you know, they don't want to touch the

1038
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: player's money. So it's it's very tricky and they're definitely

1039
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. But I just love

1040
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: that we're having the conversation because the positive ripple effects

1041
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: that it will have of you know, NFL players are

1042
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: role models for their athletic ability. You know, they're starting

1043
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: to be athletic role models being podcast hosts, getting into

1044
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: other industries, like if they become so financially savvy, like

1045
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: that'll have ripple effects to younger generations, college kids, high

1046
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: school kids, And I'm just really excited for it.

1047
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: Funny because the biggest thing, the biggest fear in Locke

1048
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 4: was like, you know, we're big, strong men, tough, like

1049
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 4: we got it all figured out, so we don't like

1050
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: talk about our weaknesses when it's actually like nah, when

1051
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: you ask the question, actually you're probably not the only

1052
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 4: one that wants to know for sure, and so vulnerability

1053
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 4: equals strength And that's just the realist thing about it. Now,

1054
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: talking about generational who's the best athlete in your family?

1055
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: You your father, or your brother, not even you me,

1056
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 4: not even close.

1057
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: My brother played for the giants, great athlete. My little

1058
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: brother played in Delaware. I tried out for the league.

1059
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite fast enough. Both my sisters played volleyball.

1060
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: That's all your sisters, five eleven and five eight. Yeah,

1061
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: maybe five ten and five seven. I don't know if

1062
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: they're shrinking or something like that. They're both moms, so

1063
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: maybe they're shrinking. I don't know, but they're they're very tall.

1064
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: They both play volleyball. My mom played volleyball and my

1065
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: dad played football. But definitely me very athletic. Yeah, yeah,

1066
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at that. Yeah, now you're the baby

1067
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: out of all I have four siblings. I'm four out

1068
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: of five. Yeah, so I'm the second youngest. Okay, yep,

1069
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: kind of throw the mind. I think that the ones

1070
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: on the bottom are the best athletes. Are you guys

1071
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: the best athletes in your family?

1072
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: Or no, no doubt? Let's go, yeah you can. We

1073
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: gotta be real too, Yeah yeah, no doubt. Yeah. The

1074
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: day I beat my brother in basketball, I knew it

1075
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: was own.

1076
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if basketball, this is so funny. If basketball

1077
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: is an indicator of athleticism, your boy is the worst.

1078
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: Like I don't have to be basketball Okay, I hope

1079
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: it's not football, of his volleyball, if his ping pong,

1080
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: anything but basketball. So my little brother got married last

1081
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: year and for his basket party, we played a lot

1082
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: of pick up basketball, and I am shooting every time

1083
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: I touched that ball, and I'm like going up. I

1084
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: got the most illusional optimism I've ever heard of. And

1085
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: I didn't hit one shot. It was like, and we're

1086
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: playing for two hours and I'm all right, odds like

1087
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: some of these are about to go in. I didn't

1088
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: even make I made me one for twenty three or

1089
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: something like going with layups, and I was duncan and

1090
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't. I couldn't make a single

1091
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: shot the whole dame whole freaking game. And I bought

1092
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: new shoes from Dick Sporting, and good, it's got blisters

1093
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: on my shoes. I forgot that you gotta wear like

1094
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: high socks with basketball shoes. I spend a long time

1095
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: as I played basketball.

1096
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can see just like Philip sever

1097
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: Hoffman in along came pink.

1098
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude with white shock shock.

1099
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Like that that is like one of us. Like I

1100
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: love that I was your callback scene. Yeah, that is

1101
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: a really good one. The fastball is any judge of

1102
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: athleticism on bottom of the total pull.

1103
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: For I think the best thing about playing pick up

1104
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 4: basketball is that because they can't sub me out, I'm

1105
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 4: going to get my shots up. Like, don't don't like

1106
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: because I'm not coming out of the game. I'm definitely

1107
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: getting my shots.

1108
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: Man.

1109
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: It's humbling, all right. So, uh, I guess we got

1110
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 4: a couple of questions. So what is your best Tom

1111
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: Brady story? Because we always like to talk about the goat.

1112
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: Probably the best one was when he put up five

1113
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: hundred yards on us. Yeah, it just crushed us.

1114
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 4: One of his response when you asked him about that,

1115
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: when you guys became teammates.

1116
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: I think he was just like, yeah, I remember that.

1117
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: Remember I think I remember that. Yeah.

1118
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean like he brust it out and just made

1119
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: well it was a meaningful game, like he was coming

1120
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: back from it. It was.

1121
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 2: The NFL.

1122
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: He's like, honestly, that talks anyway, dude about to kill him,

1123
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So he uh, that was

1124
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: probably the best, worst, best one for sure.

1125
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: We've all gotten somewhere in our eyes with people of influence, mentors, coaches, parents, whatever,

1126
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: who's on your personal Mount Rushmore of people that have

1127
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: helped you get to where you are today.

1128
00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: That's a great question. That's the Mount Moore. Yeah. I think,

1129
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: uh my parents are up there. Yeah is that to.

1130
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: One, one and two? Well yeah, sountmore Forth Yeah.

1131
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah one two one Mom and dad? Yeah.

1132
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 2: For why that was why?

1133
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: I think you know, my dad called me this morning.

1134
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: A woman went up to him and said, oh, are

1135
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: you mister Nasa, the you know Nassive family for Saint

1136
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Max And he said yeah, he said. She said, well,

1137
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: you know, my son went to school with Carl and

1138
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: in seventh grade, he was a new student. I don't

1139
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: even remember this kid's name, you know what I mean.

1140
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: And so she said, you know, Carl was the nicest

1141
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: kid to him, made him feel welcome. And I said,

1142
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: you know what, Dad, you've raised some good kids. Like

1143
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even know who this kid is, you know

1144
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, this is seventh grade Carl. So like

1145
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: that's a good thing, Like that's a that's a sign

1146
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: of success when like twenty years later a woman comes

1147
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: up to you and said, hey, when my when our

1148
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: kids are in seventh grade, your kid really like made

1149
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: him feel welcome, you know, included him. So they've really

1150
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: and still just like being a good person is the top,

1151
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, being really respectful god like going growing up

1152
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: in a German household like always I have like really

1153
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: a lot of respect. Please and thank you, Yes sir, yes, ma'am.

1154
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, shoutouts my mom and dad. They're the best.

1155
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: Three and four. It's a great question. I would say

1156
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: number three maybe Gerald McCoy. So when I got to

1157
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: the when I got to the Bucks, I just gotten

1158
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: fired from the Browns.

1159
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: I got fired on Hard Knocks. That she used the

1160
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: word fired instead of oh cut. Yeah, so I love that.

1161
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: She said I'm a corporate guy. Yeah so yeah, yeah,

1162
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: I was. I was late. I was you know what

1163
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: I mean.

1164
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: I was fired on National International, and you know we

1165
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: were wondering.

1166
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: Still guys ever come up to people like bring that

1167
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: up to you what they got fired? Yeah?

1168
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, like if they

1169
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: want to get like chippy with me, maybe they like,

1170
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: remember you got played on Smart Knocks. No, I don't

1171
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: think that's ever happened. But you know, we were one

1172
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: and thirty one in Cleveland and then I get fired

1173
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks and I'm like this, like this shit sucks,

1174
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: and so I get fired on Tuesday, hired on a Wednesday.

1175
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: I go down in Tampa and like me and Gerald

1176
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: instantly hit it off, like he like really, I mean

1177
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: going to Tampa really revived my career and helped me

1178
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: bounce back. And so you know that team, that organization

1179
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: I just hold in such high regards. So Gerald really

1180
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: helped was like one of the bigger influences on me

1181
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: of like and JPP, you know and Bo like we

1182
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: had a great and will shout out to all those

1183
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: guys in the D line when I first got to Tampa.

1184
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: But you know that really turned my career around was

1185
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: my first year in Tampa. So g Mack is definitely

1186
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: up there. And then number four, trying to think college

1187
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: or high school. High school coaches didn't like me. College

1188
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: took a while. You know, I'm gonna go Clyde Simmons.

1189
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Clyde Simmons. Clyde was my coach in Cleveland. Uh,

1190
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, legendary defensive end for the Eagles, over one

1191
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: hundred sacks. Like dude was a legend, and you know

1192
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: he introduced me to the long arm and like he

1193
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: just was such a great coach and like arm is

1194
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: not everybody knows the long arm when you got you know,

1195
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: long arms Like me, I'm a lanky guy. The best

1196
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: thing at the tackle wants to do is really grab

1197
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: on to you, and you can't really get off there

1198
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: stronger than us. So like got his key at arm's

1199
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: length and so really developing the strength and like the

1200
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: pushing upward of my long arm. Clyde was awesome. Like

1201
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: I'd never been taught that before. I was always side scissors,

1202
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, push poll. But the long arm really helped me.

1203
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: And Clive was just a great coach too, like really

1204
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: like didn't care who you were, like really coached everybody.

1205
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: He's his IND's man. His indis were murdered individual.

1206
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he had liked that like old NFL VET

1207
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: like bitterness.

1208
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys get it easy.

1209
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: You know money, you know what I mean back in mind,

1210
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: Dad put up one hundred sacks and I'm making twenty

1211
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars a year. So he killed us in Cleveland. Yeah,

1212
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: so the outside of you know, bro, we had a

1213
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: guy get signed on Cleveland camp. It was twenty minutes

1214
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: and he was done, like he he hit that slede

1215
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: like he had up and back sled a million times

1216
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: with Clyde.

1217
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: He was gone and day and like I was like,

1218
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 2: you're killing people, man, So yeah, probably Clyde.

1219
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also just like I probably you know again,

1220
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 1: I probably should have prepared for these questions.

1221
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: I didn't prepare anything, but.

1222
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: Those are Yeah, those are your answers on the best appreciation.

1223
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're dbs. How many you got sacks? I

1224
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: have a lot of sex. The picture you guys got

1225
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: I did not have that many. I got twelve.

1226
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: I'm thirty one. I'm two away. I should have I

1227
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 4: should have forty. I've dropped it. I've dropped a couple.

1228
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 4: What about you?

1229
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: I got one one? Okay, explain that one pick. I

1230
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: was in Vegas. It was sick. Drew locked four picks.

1231
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: It was great, Like I hated the Broncos when you're

1232
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: in Vegas and so, uh, you know, I got to

1233
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: pick through a couple of people now and I was

1234
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: I made it to the nine yard line.

1235
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: Dude, I really wanted to where'd you word? You catch?

1236
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: It was twenty five yard return? Ok? Yeah, what were forms? Oh?

1237
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: You know what, it's probably a good thing I didn't score.

1238
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: It's probably good.

1239
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: I've never even been asked that question.

1240
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: If I had scored, Just like I don't know, like

1241
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: if I would have done a dance or something or

1242
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: just you got to do something right.

1243
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, like everyone just like jumped on me. It

1244
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: was sick. It was a cool play. Yeah, they're like

1245
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: Carl got a pick warm embrace with the teammates. Yeah,

1246
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah. I gotta say, man, like, I'm

1247
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: so glad to have met you today. You came energy,

1248
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: love what you bring. This was hilarious, your your answers.

1249
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: I did not expect him the first three off first,

1250
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, I never heard that one before.

1251
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, my first welcome to the inf one was a

1252
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: three hour as that. Yeah that's real man. We appreciate

1253
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: you coming on the show. Thanks for having me. Yeah,

1254
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: you are a blessing man. I appreciate it.

1255
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: What's success to raise you in the business. Thank you

1256
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: what you're doing awesome.

1257
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: Thanks keep it going.

1258
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 5: Man.

1259
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: You're a beautiful person. You got a great spirit, you

1260
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: got great energy, great juice. I understand your teammates love

1261
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: you so much. Thanks. Uh you are truly a great spirit, bro.

1262
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: Real talk. You got to freaking juice us to juice.

1263
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: All you need to do now is just become a

1264
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: faster driver. Yeah, no, I'm good man. This is awesome.

1265
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 2: This is probably my favorite Nembors, if not my favorite

1266
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: Nembers is great. Yeah.

1267
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: I live in New York. Now it's you guys next time.

1268
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're here all the time, you work here,

1269
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: so yeah, definitely definitely picture. I had a picture of

1270
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: margaritas last night. Man, on a Wednesday. You gotta come to town. Man,

1271
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: we were just at the barble. I was at the

1272
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: barb by myself. So yeah, next time, I got it,

1273
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: got got you.

1274
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 4: This will not be our last time. That's visit with

1275
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: Carl Nassup. So thank you, of course, Thank you man.

1276
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 4: For all of our viewers and listeners out there, thank

1277
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: you as well. I mean, we love this guy. He's

1278
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 4: definitely coming back. Give us a five star rating of review.

1279
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: Click that click that follow button, and wherever you listen

1280
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,120
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1281
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: you once again to iHeart Radio Studios here and beautiful.

1282
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: New York City, New York Cities.

1283
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: Thank you for having us as always. Peanut, get us

1284
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 4: up out of here. Man, I'm Peanuts Tillman.

1285
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: This room in O. G. Harper does Carl CEO NASA,

1286
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: and a man.

1287
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: This is the NFL Player second X podcast and we

1288
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 4: out iHeart Studios.

1289
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: Peace,