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Speaker 1: Well, now I want to turn to McDonald's earnings disappointing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Is this not only important for things to come at McDonald's,

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Speaker 1: but also for fast food in general and maybe even

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Speaker 1: for the entire economy. Scott Rothbort joins us now. He's

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Speaker 1: president and founder of Lakeview Asset Management. Scott, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. Thanks for having me on again. Well,

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Speaker 1: let first let's talk about the news. What happened to McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: Why did their earnings disappoint Well, you know, earning the

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Speaker 1: disappointments are based upon expectations, so one can make the

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Speaker 1: argument that perhaps analysts were expecting that the company would

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Speaker 1: do better, especially with same store sales um But I

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Speaker 1: think you have to look at McDonald's in a more

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Speaker 1: holistic one and and not really focusing on the individual

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Speaker 1: uh data points that they released. McDonald's is a company

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Speaker 1: really kind of onto a sector of its own when

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Speaker 1: you think about it's it's the largest global restaurant chain.

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Speaker 1: But as I tell my students in Seaton Hall, and

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Speaker 1: I asked them, what's McDonald's in the business of doing?

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Speaker 1: They all say selling him org As I said, No,

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Speaker 1: they're in the they're in the retail business. Sorry, they're

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Speaker 1: in the um uh. They in the real estate business

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Speaker 1: rather than the retail food business because they are one

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Speaker 1: of the largest real estate operators in the countries. A

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, you can go online McDonald's has a

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Speaker 1: whole list of properties that are for sale by McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: And what McDonald's been doing is that they have been

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Speaker 1: in the process over the last few years of refranchising

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Speaker 1: their units Nella's. McDonald's itself no longer wants to be

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Speaker 1: in the operating business. They would rather be a franchise

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Speaker 1: r and least their real estate to the franchise ease,

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Speaker 1: and this is the way the business is going. You

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Speaker 1: can't really compare McDonald's to an up and coming restaurant

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Speaker 1: chain like Zoe's you know that's one of my favorite ones,

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Speaker 1: or Wings Stop or Elpoyo Loco. They're really in different

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Speaker 1: categories even though they both sell food, you know, those

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Speaker 1: those companies are a little bit more specialized in terms

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Speaker 1: of the meal that they offer UM and they're much

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Speaker 1: earlier in their in their growth phase. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: Scott Rothbort, does McDonald's trade as a real estate company

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Speaker 1: or as a restaurant business because the stock is up

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Speaker 1: less than three percent so far this year. Compare that

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Speaker 1: to the SMP five hundred a game about six percent,

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Speaker 1: and it's paying just under three percent of the dividend. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a great question, UM. I have said for the

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Speaker 1: last several years, UM that you have to look at

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Speaker 1: McDonald's as being a dividends stock, as a company that's

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Speaker 1: basically going to be paying out cash brow through dividends

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Speaker 1: and stock repurchases. Now, Pimnew and I have talked about

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Speaker 1: McDonald's well over a decade now, and I brought it

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Speaker 1: back in two thousand three when the company was really

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Speaker 1: at its body in the midst of really a problematic

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Speaker 1: period for the company. And then over the next ten

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Speaker 1: years they transformed themselves and and fix the company up.

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Speaker 1: They expanded internationally, and by two thousand and thirteen, you

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Speaker 1: really couldn't do anything more with McDonald's that you had

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Speaker 1: already done over the course of that period of time.

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Speaker 1: And now it was now it's about squeezing as much

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Speaker 1: cash flow out of his operations, out of his franchise,

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Speaker 1: of his real estate. So I look at McDonald's as

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Speaker 1: a company that's yielding three That yield is going to

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Speaker 1: go up probably sometime in the fourth quarter of this year. UM,

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Speaker 1: and I look at McDonald's in the point of view

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Speaker 1: of being a substitute for UM bonds rather than being

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Speaker 1: a growth company. Okay, that's interesting point because we see

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Speaker 1: in our bloomberg A news story today that Stiffill financial

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Speaker 1: corpse Paul Restaurant has raised concerns about the restaurants actor

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Speaker 1: hitting a downturn, harbinger for a broader economic slump in

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Speaker 1: Alexander Slagel downgraded other restaurant stocks today. Red Robin, So,

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Speaker 1: I guess you're saying you don't compare McDonald's to the

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Speaker 1: other sort of you know, fast casual dining chains. You

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Speaker 1: say that they exist in their own and they're they're

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Speaker 1: safe like a bond. But when you look broadly at

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Speaker 1: the industry, what's it telling you, well would tell me,

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Speaker 1: is that it's a very broad industry. You really answered

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Speaker 1: your own question there. UM, I look at companies like Zoey's,

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Speaker 1: which is in the early part of his growth process.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we own Zowey's UH in our restaurant portfolios. UM,

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Speaker 1: we talk about Zoe's and McDonald's another restaurant companies in

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Speaker 1: our newsletter, which is available for the general public. Um.

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh you know McDonald's it really is, is

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Speaker 1: a much older, more established company. Um. But when you

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Speaker 1: look at David Buster, I'm not going to say that

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Speaker 1: the people who go to David Busters are gonna be

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Speaker 1: the same people who are gonna go to McDonald's. What

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Speaker 1: McDonald's has that everyone else doesn't have is basically McDonald's

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Speaker 1: pretty much had every exit on every major um highway

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Speaker 1: along this country, all right, And that's that's really who

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Speaker 1: the tryn to service these days, people who are along

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Speaker 1: the highways, people who want quick meals. The same cannot

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Speaker 1: be said for I Dine sorry, um for um, for

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Speaker 1: Dine Equity, who owns Applebee's an Eyehop. The same can't

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Speaker 1: be said for you know, all the restaurant chains, um

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Speaker 1: like Ruby Tuesday. Hey look yesterday. Um, there was a

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Speaker 1: Wild Wings. So you may have some antalts who come

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Speaker 1: out and down uh down grade the entire industry, but

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Speaker 1: I think selectively, there are some great bargains uh. And

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Speaker 1: there's some great road ahead for some of these chains.

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Speaker 1: Scott Rothfort, the founder, the president of lake View Asset Management,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. This is taking Stock. I'm PIM

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