WEBVTT - Rush's Timeless Wisdom - Raising Minimum Wage Causes Job Loss, Wal-Mart Will Now Just Surround Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>City Council in Chicago has brushed aside warnings from Walmart

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<v Speaker 1>stores to approve an ordinance that makes Chicago the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>city in the nation to require big box retailers to

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<v Speaker 1>pay a living wage. The ordinance past fourteen yesterday after

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<v Speaker 1>three hours of impassion debate. It requires mega retailers to

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<v Speaker 1>pay wages of at least ten dollars an hour plus

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<v Speaker 1>UH three dollars in fringe benefits three dollars in fringe

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<v Speaker 1>benefits by by mid two thousand and ten, it would

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<v Speaker 1>only apply to companies with more than one billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in annual sales and stores of at least ninety thousand

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<v Speaker 1>square feet. Alderman Tony Preckwinkle said it's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the largest companies in America to pay decent wages. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, then I'm waging in the Lloyd by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>six and a half. The federal minimum is five dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in fifteen cents. Mayor Daily and others warned at the

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<v Speaker 1>living wage proposal would drive jobs and desperately needed development

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<v Speaker 1>from some of the city's poorest neighborhoods and lead people

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<v Speaker 1>like Walmart to abandon the city. It's exactly. Walmart will

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<v Speaker 1>ring the city, Walmart will surround the city, but they

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<v Speaker 1>will not go there. This is has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with a livable wage. This has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>making big companies pay livable wage. This is all about

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<v Speaker 1>uh unions. This is all about the Democrats being loyal

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<v Speaker 1>to unions. I think the Acorn group was behind this,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge liberal group. It just let me the minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like the Republicans are going to propose

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<v Speaker 1>one of their own increases. So this is all moot.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it because it's ridiculous. The minimum wage is an

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<v Speaker 1>arbitrarily set wage, has nothing to do with market conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually reduces jobs. It it results in the loss

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<v Speaker 1>of jobs. People don't believe that, but it is statistically true. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let me ask you people in Chicago at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the city council ten bucks an hour in ten

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<v Speaker 1>why not tomorrow? This is desperately needed, isn't it. Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna wait almost three years or four why

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<v Speaker 1>wait four years? What's the point here? By the time

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<v Speaker 1>we get to ten dollars an hour is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be not that much different than the six fifteen or

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<v Speaker 1>six fifty, That is, they required minimum wage in Chicago. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>why wait, and by the why stomp at ten? If

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<v Speaker 1>if ten dollars is a good livable wage, wouldn't fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour be even better? And if that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>then why stop at fifteen? Why why didn't you make

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<v Speaker 1>the livable wage twenty dollars? If big corporations who was

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<v Speaker 1>this has said this Tony preck Winkle. So they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get the largest companies in America to pay decent wage. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think ten bucks an hours a decent wage,

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<v Speaker 1>mss preck Winkle, I wouldn't work for it. Who do

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<v Speaker 1>you think will big companies need to pay their fair share?

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen is better? But why stop there? Why didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>do twenty dollars? And now, and what is this three

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of French benefits? Three dollars won't even buy a

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<v Speaker 1>gas and gallon of gas in Chicago, and you call

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<v Speaker 1>it a fringe benefit. It's absurd, it's insulting. Make the

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<v Speaker 1>fringe benefits. In fact, Ms prick Winkle, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>better idea forget this hourly wage business in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're talking about really making these companies come clean

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<v Speaker 1>and be honest with the people who are making them successful,

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<v Speaker 1>then let's just say that there is a required minimum

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<v Speaker 1>salary of seventy five thousand dollars a year for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>works at Walmart. Everybody gets healthcare, dental, no co pay,

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<v Speaker 1>no deductible, and twenty dollars fringe benefits every year. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do that. Why not? White? If you can

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<v Speaker 1>go from six fifty to ten, why can't you go

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<v Speaker 1>from ten to fifteen? And if you can go to fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>why can't you go to twenty? I mean, go talk

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<v Speaker 1>to your union buddies are doing whatever jobs they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and ask them if they would go back to ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour on the basis it's a livable wage.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think louis down there in a stonemason, the

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<v Speaker 1>bricklayers or whatever it's gonna tell you that he looks

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<v Speaker 1>have ten dollars an hour and on the basis is

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<v Speaker 1>livable wage. Don't you think that Walmart Automa at least

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay the lowest union contract equivalent in Chicago?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you come up with these arbitrary numbers ten

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<v Speaker 1>bucks chump change, fifteen chump change. Why the average illegal

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<v Speaker 1>immigrant wouldn't work for that. You're gonna have to do

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<v Speaker 1>better than that, Chicago, if you're gonna really talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a living wage. But I don't know how you stop

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<v Speaker 1>at ten. I don't know how you stop at twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why you don't just go and

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<v Speaker 1>make it official. Make it a hundred grand, miss preck Winkle,

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<v Speaker 1>make it one hundred grand. Talk about a livable wage.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody might really be able to buy a car and

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<v Speaker 1>not have to take Chicago public transit at a hundred grand.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to teach them English, but well, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have to do that. And make Walmart pay

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<v Speaker 1>for that if they want to learn English. Go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way with this Chicago City Council. You are just

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<v Speaker 1>tiptoeing around here. You're dancing around the real truth. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about these workers. You just want a double

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<v Speaker 1>digit minimum wage because you know what this does. Can

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what the big secret of the minimum

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<v Speaker 1>wages folks? Now, the so called livable wage. In addition

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever political ploy it is to try to teach

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<v Speaker 1>the downtrodden the forgotten the hungry and the thirsty that

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats care about them. What it really is is

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<v Speaker 1>a way to goose union wages up because good old

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<v Speaker 1>union negotiators in Chicago, A're not gonna say WHOA people

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<v Speaker 1>that don't know how to count beyond ten and they've

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<v Speaker 1>only been in a country for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna make ten bucks an hour at a box store,

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<v Speaker 1>at a checkout line or somewhere stocking things on shelves. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>good for them. We want to raise our union contract

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<v Speaker 1>next time it comes up. The higher the minimum wage goes,

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<v Speaker 1>the higher the baseline for union contracts are. This is

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<v Speaker 1>such a scam. And of course, since the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and it's union deals that it makes with the

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<v Speaker 1>city with other people is actually paid by Chicago taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 1>people like Tony Preckwinkle don't really have to think of

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<v Speaker 1>the money coming out of her purse or pocketbook or

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<v Speaker 1>that pocket whichever she prefers. Al in in Chicago. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>So nice to have you on the program. Nice to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you than at Moscow on Michigan. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing more than a political act. It's also an

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<v Speaker 1>act that will to impact greatly on the poorest of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Chicago. If you know Chicago, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>ring of poverty around that very successful core downtown. Those

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<v Speaker 1>folks rely on public transportation, they won't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from the targets and the Walmarts and the discounts

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<v Speaker 1>that are available. You know, Ben Stein, the economist has

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<v Speaker 1>many times said that Walmart is the greatest poverty anti

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<v Speaker 1>poverty program going. But this is also a political act.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they'll they'll cancel this out if they begin

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<v Speaker 1>to see stores growing and being built right across the

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<v Speaker 1>line in suburban communities. And that is what will happen,

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<v Speaker 1>because it happened with gas stations, gas stations rim the city. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's already started. Walmart's already said, are going to build

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<v Speaker 1>a store in one of these economically depressed places, and

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<v Speaker 1>the people live there love it. That's actually, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent point, an excellent point. If these stores get built

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<v Speaker 1>outside the and you said it not I the ring

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<v Speaker 1>of poverty uh in in Chicago, then the primary beneficiaries

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<v Speaker 1>of a Walmart store won't be able to get there

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<v Speaker 1>to take or they'll go broke getting there and won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to spend any money. Once they do get

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<v Speaker 1>there absolutely. Can I tell you Kmart's home depot lows

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<v Speaker 1>they're building right now in Evergreen Park. And these are

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<v Speaker 1>communities that are one block. You know, they share a

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<v Speaker 1>border with the city of Chicago. And they do it

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<v Speaker 1>because also sales tax in Chicago, if you cross the street,

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<v Speaker 1>you go into Indiana, you go from eight eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half percent down to six in Chicago is hurting itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But Chicago has always done this. It's not unique. What

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<v Speaker 1>I call a captive constituency, that's the captive but that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's not I mean that that's true in the sales tax.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean uh, in in New Jersey they bumped up

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<v Speaker 1>the sales tax on some luxury cars and boats once

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<v Speaker 1>and people just went to Pennsylvania. Uh then and they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up having to resend the tax. Because liberals raising

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<v Speaker 1>taxes raises revenue. They do not understand the dynamic aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of raising or cutting and lowering taxes. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you something here. This is uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you about the mayor because you're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, you're closer to it now. And the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>this wackle bunch of City Council people actually passed a

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<v Speaker 1>trans fat ordnance or they're working on it, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and Mayor Daily said, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing? We got serious problems with kids in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a drug problem, got a crime for. What

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<v Speaker 1>the hell are we regulating people's menus for? And he

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<v Speaker 1>opposes this living wage thing? Now, what's with that? The

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<v Speaker 1>City Council of Chicago has nothing better to do? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's no, no, no, what's with Daily opposing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Daily's a Democrat to Daily sounding like a Republican, almost

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative Republican on this. Yeah, but Daily's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Daily is not running for anything at the moment. U He's, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he will be soon, but he's yeah, he's doing a straddle.

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<v Speaker 1>He you know, he's doing what Clinton always does. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be on the right side of the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not a matter of principle, it's a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of positioning. And that's how Daily always opened in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>the living wage, minimum wage. That's a fundamental, defining issue

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<v Speaker 1>of the Democratic Party. And he's ripping people like Tony

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<v Speaker 1>PreK Winkle. By the way, how long has Tony PreK

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<v Speaker 1>Winckle been a member of the City Council in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>I think forever. Is she married? You know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, can't just wondering if it's a maiden name.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm just wondering. If it's her maiden name,

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<v Speaker 1>I could google it. You don't have to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll handle it. Uh anyway, Thanks, Thanks, Al, I appreciate,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the input. This, this is this is just fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is big cities, big democrats. Cities are locked

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<v Speaker 1>back in an old era drive by media, locked in

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<v Speaker 1>an old era. There are major transformational changes happening in

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<v Speaker 1>front of all of them, the Middle East, in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're so locked in that old lens and a

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<v Speaker 1>prism through which they look at news that they're missing

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. You know, here, here's something else. For

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago City Council and for everybody else here. That

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<v Speaker 1>toying around. It is lunacy, and it is sheer lunacy

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<v Speaker 1>of raising the minimum wage. And I can demonstrate it

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody who thinks they want to call and argue

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<v Speaker 1>with me about it, because I know how you're gonna are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna the race who can live on five dollars

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<v Speaker 1>it can live? Well, Uh, a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>not living on it. As the point, it's an entry

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<v Speaker 1>level wage. It's many of them are the equivalent of babysitters.

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<v Speaker 1>There are entry level jobs in America, the newest one

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<v Speaker 1>being the illegal immigrant job. And then there are other

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that you just your first job in the marketplace.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a myth out there that heads of households

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<v Speaker 1>supporting the uh family Sadan and a two point eight

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<v Speaker 1>kids in a white picket fence in suburbia on five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour or five fifty and six fifty, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the hell it is, is a myth. Head of households

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<v Speaker 1>are not earning. I mean, there may be some, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's you're you're gonna react to this totally emotionally. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not nothing. You hear it. I know, well, how many

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<v Speaker 1>of you think what you're earning right now is enough?

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you're all saying, no, I need more. Even

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<v Speaker 1>I say that, even I said, now, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing about it? Are we running around? He needs a

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<v Speaker 1>government program to raise my wage. There's a minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 1>You know something else that's not talked about with the

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage, that tax burden. Why isn't the tax burden

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<v Speaker 1>which cuts the net minimum wage ever discussed? If the

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage is so crucial, shouldn't it be free of

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<v Speaker 1>any taxation? Like Mrs ms prick Winkle in Chicago the

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<v Speaker 1>ten dollar living wage, Make it tax free. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not gonna be fun income tax out of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are gonna pay state. They're gonna pay through

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<v Speaker 1>the nose on state income to X. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Social Security, Medicare taxes withheld, and a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other things unemployment insurance, workers compensation. Now, I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>is that fair? You? You people in government talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how unfair it is that there's minimum wage is so low,

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<v Speaker 1>and then whatever the minimum wage is gets eaten up

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<v Speaker 1>by your taxes. So if you really believe all this,

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<v Speaker 1>those of you at the Chicago City Council or any

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<v Speaker 1>other you pro minimum wage geeks, if you actually believe this,

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<v Speaker 1>then make the next time you propose it all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through no taxes. Every minimum wage recipient is exempted

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<v Speaker 1>from taxes. It's too important. People need to live, Mr Limbaugh.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to be able to eat and feed their family.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, and I wouldn't want to do it

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<v Speaker 1>on five dollars an hour. I wouldn't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it on ten, although I've done it on the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>we all have as the point, well other than you

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<v Speaker 1>trust funders and you Walster people. His first job out

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<v Speaker 1>out of Harvard, your hedge fund as a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 1>grand a year. But most people have earned the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of I did when I was thirteen. I got it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way when I was sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I earned. The equipment was a bucket a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter an hour, and I didn't even care. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so little. It didn't care. I just I just love

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<v Speaker 1>the experience. I gave the money to my dad because

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<v Speaker 1>I he had fronted me the money to go to

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast school. It's not a broadcast schools, electronic school went

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<v Speaker 1>down to Dallas when I was sixteen. Had to have

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<v Speaker 1>a radio license. That's the irrelevant now, but I had

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<v Speaker 1>had one then in order to work at this radio

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<v Speaker 1>station in my hometown, and he required me to be

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<v Speaker 1>a cost six hundred bucks to fly me down there,

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<v Speaker 1>living some old woman's house for the six weeks. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that then they had a whole row of houses down

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<v Speaker 1>there next to the school, and they the owners of

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<v Speaker 1>the houses, rented out rooms for very cheap. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a school, it was a factory. All kinds of guys

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<v Speaker 1>going through their women too. And I was sixteen when

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<v Speaker 1>I did it. And when I got back and started

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<v Speaker 1>work and gave my dad the money paying back, and

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<v Speaker 1>unbeknownst to me, he set up a bank account. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that just all that money. After after three years,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like three thousand dollars. So I made a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a year and I was working full time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I was a teenager. But that's what the minimum

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<v Speaker 1>wage is. It's exactly what it is. It is misrepresented

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<v Speaker 1>as something that a majority of Democrats, a majority of

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats want you to believe, a majority of Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>just one paycheck away from homelessness, destitution, And it's all

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<v Speaker 1>Bush's fault, the Republicans fault because they won't raise the

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage and so forth. I'm just saying, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out there and raise the minimum wage as

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<v Speaker 1>city council member, a member Congress, whoever, whatever governmental body

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<v Speaker 1>you're part of, be fair, go all the way exempt

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<v Speaker 1>all taxes. I mean, okay, ten dollar livable wage, three

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<v Speaker 1>dollar fringe benefit. That's true, really cute. That's three dollar

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<v Speaker 1>fringe benefit. That's just so thoughtful and compassionate. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have thought of that myself. That shows how much smarter

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<v Speaker 1>the liberals are than I am. But after the taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>the state taxes, the medicare, if there is federal income tax,

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<v Speaker 1>ten dollars an hour, probably gonna pay any uh, most

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<v Speaker 1>taxes paid. But the rich uh in this country. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but Medicare, Medicaid, social Security, one armed amputees, Grantwich Village

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<v Speaker 1>of fund. Whatever is taken out of the ten bucks

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<v Speaker 1>is going to add up to about five or six

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<v Speaker 1>an hour? Now is that really compassionate? I don't think so.