WEBVTT - Tom Papa

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is joy. I talked to interest in people about what

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<v Speaker 1>brings them happiness. Here's Tom Papa, a great American comedian

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<v Speaker 1>who feels somehow reliable and enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I interview and you are your interviewing man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really funny because last night I told my wife

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<v Speaker 3>I was coming to see you and we adore you,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was like, oh, that's so great. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>like checked up on what he's been up to lately

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, no, no, no, he's interviewing me,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't. I don't have to look at his

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<v Speaker 3>Wikipedia page, right, Yeah, like no, the pressure's on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, see now the troubles You mentioned your wife because

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned to you very briefly before we started recording

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<v Speaker 1>that you are my wife's favorite comedian. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it makes me think less of you, well

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<v Speaker 1>know less of you, but kind of angry at you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of jealous a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as you said it, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that means that's too bad, because I really like you.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I know if I liked yeah, that you

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<v Speaker 3>like me a little less than you did before.

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<v Speaker 1>She declared that, well, it's just been watching you on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the interwebs, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram and all that, because she has all that. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>is that where she catches it mostly?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do a lot of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I started.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a group a company to post my clips

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<v Speaker 3>because it takes me I six hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did that. It takes me six hours to

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<v Speaker 2>edit and then post it and tag it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did. I can't do it. So I got

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<v Speaker 3>this group to do it about a year ago. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, more people come up to me at

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<v Speaker 3>my shows and say that they were turned on to

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<v Speaker 3>me or watched me through TikTok or Instagram. Right then,

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<v Speaker 3>the Netflix or Comedy Central.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally have the same thing. I just started doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably the same company. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>started doing it about three or four months ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>the demographic in my audience, the age has dropped like

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<v Speaker 1>an average of like thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all of a sudden, there's more.

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<v Speaker 1>People and they're young, and yeah they and I said

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<v Speaker 1>to them, you fuckers better not be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Ironically, No, this is Astley.

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<v Speaker 1>I want some you know, not that there's anything I

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<v Speaker 1>do like Rick Astley, both as a man and as

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<v Speaker 1>a performer.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, he got kind of ironic for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know you want you want young people, but

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<v Speaker 3>I have the opposite thing where I'll look at the

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<v Speaker 3>audience in certain spots and they're older and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>so where did you find me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Like this must be a face in the library. Yeah, right, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>my book in the library. I think I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done trying to figure it out and I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>throwing I'm always mistaken about the trends and what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>So if they say throw all your shit this way,

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<v Speaker 3>it's whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's basically and I am stealing a phrase

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<v Speaker 1>from my own wife here, my wife, who you're her

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<v Speaker 1>favorite lover. She says, you just throw toilet paper at

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood sign and see what sticks, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the entire business. And if she said, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>to ever write down what your job is like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to say, well, I perform.

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<v Speaker 2>I right, you don't have to do any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You just see you roll up pieces of toilet paper

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<v Speaker 1>and you throw it at the Hollywood sign and you

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<v Speaker 1>see what sticks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's perfect because that sign is so bigah, and the

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<v Speaker 3>balls are so small, tiny little spit ball that is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of actually act like you have to throw that.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to constantly throw and you'll never cover it

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<v Speaker 3>when I love if you been out in LA. I

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<v Speaker 3>have been back and forth from New York in LA

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<v Speaker 3>for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of you as an East Coast person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like you're kind of you have that sort of clever,

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<v Speaker 1>good at stand up vibe about you, that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>New York thing. It is my roots. It is my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a hard time saying I'm here, Like even

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<v Speaker 3>like you just asking the question, I have to tell

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<v Speaker 3>a story.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't just say I've been here eight year looks

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thing I have to say. It's not good

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<v Speaker 1>if you just do yes or no answers. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>everything very difficult. Yes, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I shut down. We shut down our New York place

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<v Speaker 3>eight years ago. And so we've been here full time

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<v Speaker 3>without New York for eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>And you reached your kids over there then.

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<v Speaker 3>Both places, and then they wanted The reason we closed

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<v Speaker 3>down New York was they got to a point where

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<v Speaker 3>they wanted friends. Oh, they want friends, yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 3>want young people I know, very very needy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And they started there, they were here, then we went

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<v Speaker 3>back like whenever I'd get a job, they would come

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<v Speaker 3>and we'd relocate for a little while. And they love both.

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<v Speaker 3>But now twenty and seventeen, they're both gravitating.

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<v Speaker 1>My one daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a school in the east, my youngest, my second

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<v Speaker 3>is going to uh the East as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine did that too, and they both well one of

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<v Speaker 1>them is still too young, but the other one, my

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<v Speaker 1>older boy, grew up here and then like since born here,

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<v Speaker 1>raised here, and then like, yeah, I'm going to New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's weird because we love New York. And

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<v Speaker 3>my wife is like, I can already, I can. I

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<v Speaker 3>heard a zipper the other night and she's like quietly

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<v Speaker 3>starting to pack bags. I thought she was like, don't

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<v Speaker 3>messing with your pants, not that she's packing up, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're going to go back. I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>might end up back there as well. Yeah, as I

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<v Speaker 1>heartle into my dotage, like as I start to like

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, indigestion a law, and I like I

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<v Speaker 1>have see but I can't see and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>New York's a great city for getting older and if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a better.

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<v Speaker 3>Cash I yes, I know it is expensive, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty comparable to hear yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But here you I feel like here people hate you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're over thirty five anyway, And in New York

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, absolutely when I'm here and I see like

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<v Speaker 3>aging rock stars yeah at Gelson's, Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean. Like I'll see someone from you think is

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<v Speaker 3>from Kiss and they're yeah, and they all kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like there's no there's no moisture left in them, right,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like, yeah, this is not a I don't

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<v Speaker 3>thrown shade on Kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but looks like that Crispy Ghosts from the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>It's perfect. That's so perfect Krispy Goes from the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I should go where there's more humidity.

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<v Speaker 1>I should go. I should go to New York. I

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<v Speaker 1>think also in New York you're allowed to be older.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get old like Samuel Beckett or something. In

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<v Speaker 1>the New York you can be like kind of cranky

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<v Speaker 1>and clever, and you know, it's it in a cafe way.

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<v Speaker 2>A good suit I know. See that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>That might do it for me. Well, because everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie wears workout gear, especially when they're note working out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look what's happened to me? I'm kind of dressing

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<v Speaker 3>like a child. I literally this outfit. Yeah, converse up

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<v Speaker 3>to a colorful tea with something on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is what I was in sixth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you've added on top of the color to

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<v Speaker 1>a cardigan, which brings it back around. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well this is my this is my this is this

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<v Speaker 2>Italian cardigan that I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been It's BEAUTI yeah, it's really nice, thank you, But

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<v Speaker 1>it is a cardigan. It is a cardigan, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>kind of puts you a little although I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say again, you know, I'm kind of worried about this

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<v Speaker 1>because my wife's favorite item of clothing of all the

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<v Speaker 1>items of clothings that she enjoys cardigans on herself or

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<v Speaker 1>on you or herself. I'm I have difficulty embracing the

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<v Speaker 1>card again. Why.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was a punk rocker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and sometimes things stick, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think cardigan's was a symbol of oppression.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, but didn't they own it? Didn't they take

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<v Speaker 3>it on their own and have holes in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thinky did I feel like car You know that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>John Lydon or Johnny Rotten had a crap card Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, it looked like my grand's cardigan. But my

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<v Speaker 1>gran had hanky a tissue up her sleeve. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think John Lydon had a tissue up the sleeve, in

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<v Speaker 1>which case he's a phony.

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<v Speaker 3>My nana used to hide her tissue in her in

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<v Speaker 3>between her boobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's where she.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of yeah, saucy, that's gonna saucy place for Grandma.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, she's going to wipe your face with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure booby sweat. I'm sure. I'm sure. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of also that I think it's a specially afity website

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a category. Yeah, I think it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I'm wrestling with or not wrestling. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with the aging process. I turned sixty this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and actually I turned sixty one this year.

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<v Speaker 3>You look great, thank you, and I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know the internal stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You were younger than me, you were early fifties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I do feel like we are in a

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<v Speaker 3>profession and the kind of artist that we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, age helps, it kind of does a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>oh much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you're a young comedian, I think, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I talked to you that we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this, because when I was younger, my my stuff

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<v Speaker 1>was very angry, like the hell Man and woking up

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<v Speaker 1>and down, and I'm just I have a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>putting that together.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll say that you're doing great. That you even

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<v Speaker 3>remember our last interview. That's better what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I remember it well because every but once

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<v Speaker 1>a week my wife says, you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But funny, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see this bed that I've gotten? He did

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<v Speaker 1>this thing on Instagram? I said, he didn't do a

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<v Speaker 1>thing on Instagram. He did a specially cut it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut up about Tom Poppa.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea of her just holding the phone up towards

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<v Speaker 3>you with my face.

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<v Speaker 1>On it, Well, it's not even that she does is

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<v Speaker 1>she'll lie in bed and I don't hear good once.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of Ted Danson was on My Late

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<v Speaker 1>night show once about more than once. But he's a

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<v Speaker 1>lovely guy, Ted, but apparently Mary used to like watching

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<v Speaker 1>my show. Mary his wife used to like watching my show,

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<v Speaker 1>but not let him. He didn't like him being there

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<v Speaker 1>when she was watching that. It really made him mad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that it makes you laugh?

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<v Speaker 2>Then who makes who makes you laugh?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Do you watch commedia? I don't really watch comedians.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you watch comedians? No? Not that often.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, I have this radio show on Sirius XM,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of comedians come on. Yea, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>really a comedian haven. So I, out of respect for

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<v Speaker 3>everyone who shows up, I'll watch at least some of

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<v Speaker 3>what they're pushing a clip on TikTok yeah, and some

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<v Speaker 3>I'll some, it'll some all go. You know, it really

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<v Speaker 3>just depends on just I don't even know what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but my mood. Like sometimes in the car, I can

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<v Speaker 3>throw on the comedy channel and I really enjoy hearing

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<v Speaker 3>everybody and seeing what everyone's talking about. And then at

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<v Speaker 3>other times it's like the most horrible idea. It's funny

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel the same way about it. I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>because you're I feel like you're comedy, which I now

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<v Speaker 3>know a great deal more of.

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<v Speaker 1>Than I used to it's actually I love it because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel there is a there's a gentle cleverness about

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. Is that the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you like when you listen to it, that is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're drawn to?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, there is definitely a I'm always craving

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<v Speaker 3>like a hopefulness. My biggest love was Carlin growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were other great like when Eddie Murphy hit

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<v Speaker 3>when I was like in high school, and Steve Martin

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot of influences, but Carlin was the one.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was the one putting out you know,

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<v Speaker 3>specials pretty much all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He was HBO. He was like it was Home Box Office,

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<v Speaker 1>like every two years.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember there was one special and I love

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<v Speaker 3>him being raw, I love him being you know, thoughtful,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's why I think his material is actually holding

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<v Speaker 3>up more than a lot of like his stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>still being plaid one. But there was this one special

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<v Speaker 3>where he didn't give you hope at the end, like

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<v Speaker 3>I love hearing about the ship and going through all

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<v Speaker 3>of the problems, but we're gonna be okay, or but

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<v Speaker 3>we can do this, and one he didn't, and he

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<v Speaker 3>just I think it might have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been the one with the tombstones in the background.

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<v Speaker 3>I know exactly the one you made. Yeah, Edie didn't

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<v Speaker 3>And I was crushed at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Yeah, I mean I liked it because it's Carlin,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't like it. It's like there are boy

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<v Speaker 1>albums when I'm like, yeah, it's not it's not your best. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the one where you know what was some of the

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<v Speaker 1>later ones when you're wearing span dex.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do that out even if you're David Boie.

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<v Speaker 2>So what Drew you went to it in the first place?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it then as a kid?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they I guess when you were at high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Eddie would have been bringing out Raw right, but

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<v Speaker 1>then which was a big youthful because Eddie's.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Delirious was the first one. It was, wasn't Delirious

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<v Speaker 3>Delirious And then raw was Delirious was on. He was

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<v Speaker 3>like in the red and doing the ice cream man

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<v Speaker 3>and oh yeah yeah, yeah that's right. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 3>just exploded. Kid was imitating it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was the thing. You could have an a

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<v Speaker 2>comedy album.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, Well that final that's what got me into

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<v Speaker 3>it in seventh grade when I was twelve or thirteen, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was funny and I was making my way. I

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<v Speaker 3>was always funny and hamming it up. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>in the summer where I was with older kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Why were you the drug mule or something?

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<v Speaker 3>No, everybody went to camp and the poor kids stayed behind,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it was me with like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>older girls and guys, okay, And my way to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like not get kicked out of the group was

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<v Speaker 3>like keep them laughing and be have some kind of value.

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<v Speaker 3>And that summer I heard a class Clown by Carlin

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<v Speaker 3>and then Steve Martin's Let's Get Small on vinyl at

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<v Speaker 3>two different friends' homes, and I realized it clicked that

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<v Speaker 3>this being funny was a job for grown ups.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I suppose that. I mean, Belly Connley did that

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<v Speaker 1>from the exact same thing for me. But you would

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the album, Yeah, then you listen to it

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<v Speaker 1>again and hold it and yeah, I don't think people

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<v Speaker 1>listen to comedy over and over again. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, it seems to me they consume

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<v Speaker 1>it in thirty second chunks on Yeah, on their phones,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and even on serious like on the comedy channels,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very rarely hearing a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're hearing, you know, a little short or ten minute

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<v Speaker 3>bits or something. But you know, I was getting ready

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<v Speaker 3>to interview someone yesterday and I realized, oh, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to sit and watch his special. I

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<v Speaker 3>just have it on on my phone and listen to it. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And as I was doing it, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is so much better than watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so I love listening. I prefer it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's what's something to do behind the

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<v Speaker 1>rise of the podcast as well. Yeah, the listening to it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think sometimes when you're watching a comedian woking

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<v Speaker 1>up and down and trying too hard and stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>know this, soone's going on. You wear that shirt, his

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<v Speaker 1>face is what is she? What is she trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be handsome? Or why are you trying to look glamorous? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Why's sexy? Yeah that's confusing me. You're sexy, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>also funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't deal. Do you use the peloton that bike?

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<v Speaker 2>You ever used that bike? I've never been known.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm six years old, so I have to guard

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<v Speaker 1>my pro state jealously. And the peloton has a seat

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<v Speaker 1>on it, doesn't it a little? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Tain't irritator. Isn't it doing that bother your prostate?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might really well once I got a fever.

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<v Speaker 1>And is the prostate on the outside, No, man, we watched.

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<v Speaker 2>The doctors work on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Prost isn't there. But because anyone's listening to this show

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<v Speaker 1>for medical advice, that's really the wrong place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The prostate's up your bomb and run the corner right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I sitting on a seat and because there's it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like your your ass skin is just an envelope,

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<v Speaker 4>and inside the envelope is the pro state that there?

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't want to it's flimsy envelope. There's bubble.

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<v Speaker 2>We're asking for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got I got my envelopes, a little flimsy run

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<v Speaker 1>that area, I mean, and then it pushes up against it.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I'm quite large, so I'm pushing down right, frosty,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pushing up on the little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing you use the peloton.

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<v Speaker 3>I do use the peloton with a callous disregard for

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<v Speaker 3>pillow on my seat. But I we brought it up

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<v Speaker 3>because when you said, uh, you're distracting me when I'm watching,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're watching the video, and it's like, now I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's there's an array of teachers and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a video thing and these beautiful teachers out of

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<v Speaker 3>London in New York, right, and uh. And I go

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<v Speaker 3>with this guy, Matt Wilpers, who's a gym coach. He's

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<v Speaker 3>just a bald, white milky let's let's do this. He's great,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's so great, And the thing that's most the

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<v Speaker 3>best thing is that he's not as distracted like I

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<v Speaker 3>went to some of the females who are like working

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<v Speaker 3>it on the bike and there's cleavage and they're winking

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<v Speaker 3>at you, and I'm trying to battle with my prostate

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I can't. This is too distracted. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's weird. My wife is a peloton instructor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Just give me just you know, why are we beating

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<v Speaker 3>around the bush. Just give me her number? When did

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<v Speaker 3>you say they're coming to town?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have her number.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in my phone, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you remember Andy's phone number?

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<v Speaker 3>The only number I know in my life right now,

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<v Speaker 3>of all the most important people is my wife. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know my daughters, I don't know my parents. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I don't know any numbers. I plug it

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<v Speaker 3>and forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>The only number I can remember is the number of

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<v Speaker 1>the telephone that we used to have my house when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, and my dad used to answer it.

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<v Speaker 1>He put his jacket on first, and then when the

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<v Speaker 1>phone rang, he put his jacket on, and then answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Put his jacket on an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, but sometimes it was like the phone would

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<v Speaker 1>go and it was sort of an event.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a sort of like, well, your dad answers

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. He's the man of the house, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and like i'd even say, comb an old two, one, six,

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<v Speaker 1>four or seven.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how he answered. That's how he answered.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't talk like that. That's yeah, Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. What was your number when you were growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it?

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<v Speaker 2>If it's still your number, then don't say it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, But I'm not going to say it because I

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<v Speaker 3>do use it as part of my passwords.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I never use it as part of my past word.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, well, not your number or indeed my number.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have said it. Yeah, but I remember that one,

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<v Speaker 3>of course. Yeah, that one just rolls off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of the technology change is so odd to

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<v Speaker 1>me because telephones, I think you didn't really think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell the telephone was in the house and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a kettle, like a tea kettle or a refrigerator. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just like overtook all these things. It

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<v Speaker 1>became like the most important thing on earth is a telephone,

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<v Speaker 1>but yet a whole generation doesn't want to use it

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<v Speaker 1>to talk. Yeah, it's funny. I was talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of me and about that this very day, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why will you text when you're driving?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like it's dangerous call people, right, they do not

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<v Speaker 3>want to use their voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the easier to fake you out if it's a text?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean fear of intimacy, fear that Well, for my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fear that they think that it's a call means trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>that we're yelling at them or something like it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, well does it?

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<v Speaker 2>But they like to FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't like the soul, just the voice, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>happy to pick up if it's FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird. I feel like that too now as Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that with the FaceTime if I'm away

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<v Speaker 1>from home, like if you're on the road or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I put the FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll call my wife, I'll put it in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has to stop watching you, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>have to see me walking in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in the background. God, what about this one, Megan?

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<v Speaker 1>So, a guy's on a peloton back, he's got an

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<v Speaker 1>outside for us date and he's trying to work around it.

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<v Speaker 1>The I'll put it on and leave it on him.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk like we talk in the house, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not It doesn't feel so far away somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it doesn't feel like you have to constantly

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<v Speaker 3>have something to say.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have those quiet moments, right the nothing happening

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<v Speaker 1>thing or like you pass guys say. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>official invitation to the Fancy Vascal stand up Show. I

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<v Speaker 1>Craig Ferguson will be performing this fall in your region.

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<v Speaker 1>You can buy tickets and check out the full list

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<v Speaker 1>of dates at the Craig Ferguson Show dot com. Slash

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<v Speaker 1>dour see you there or not? I'm sorry, I get distracted.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just wondering if I look fat on your

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<v Speaker 3>camera right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, these cameras that are here filming us, they first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, there's no one here but cameras. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>cameras on their own, which I feel like they look

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<v Speaker 1>like they just arrived, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nobody behind them.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet when everyone's out of here, the cameras talk

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<v Speaker 3>to each other and they're like, why are those meatbags

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<v Speaker 3>coming in here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they come in here all the time. They kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look like three legged spiders with one eye and

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>they they're coming to They do look like aliens. They do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm kind of getting freaked out. Did you do

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<v Speaker 2>hallucinogens when you were younger?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, did you really? I'm surprised. I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were quite a wholesome character. I yeah, but you did

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>do hallucinogens? Yeah? I love them?

0:22:58.080 --> 0:22:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Really?

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you still do them now? I haven't quite some time,

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and I want to. Okay, but do you want something

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I could sell you? I know they're kind of they're

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>readily available. Well, this it seems to be that drugs

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 1>are like, you can have what you want. No.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend Bonnie McFarlane's very funny comedian, You're yeah brilliant.

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 3>She has a funny run about how it's too late

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 3>for global warming. This is definitely the end of times.

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 3>We're definitely missed it. It's too late, she goes. I

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 3>think that's why the government, and the government knows it.

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 3>That's why they're just handing out free drugs to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy your end of times drugs.

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean the the because the entire I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the entire country.

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<v Speaker 2>You you still tour alone, right, you still wark?

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me every study I go to smells

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<v Speaker 2>like weed. Everywhere. Where's Jamaica? Where Jamaica.

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels like I've never been to Jamaica, but

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it smells like weed.

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's everywhere, it really is. Do you enjoy that?

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you use? I don't, you know?

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Like I was pretty wholesome my whole life, and then

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 3>in an athlete, and then I got to like when

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 3>high school was ending in through college, I just freedom

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 3>and I just I wasn't an athlete anymore. And that's

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 3>where I really got into all the fun stuff and Uh,

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 3>it was so great, and we used to pine about

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 3>how this should be legal. It's ridiculous why it's legal.

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 3>And now that it's legal, all these years later, and

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 3>it just doesn't I have a hard time with it

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 3>makes me moody. I liked being high, but the next

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.640
<v Speaker 3>day or two, I'm sluggish, and.

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>It makes me psychotic. It makes me really kind of down.

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 2>No I yet because it's.

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Legal now, Yeah, it's I wish I could enjoy it,

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>but I know I stopped enjoying it very early.

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 2>You did, Yeah, we used to. I used to smoke hashish.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yeah, Pakistani black hashish or Lebanese red hashish.

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I only had black, Yeah, Pakistani blacks.

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Very We should to get the stuff called Nepalese temple balls,

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>which was a mixture of hashisian opium. Whoa, I only

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>had opium once. Yeah.

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a sleepy time.

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a sleepy time drug, but a cozy, sleepy, cozy,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>sleepy time. Yeah. But when I was about eighteen or nineteen,

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>because I started very young, Like I tripped an acid

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>when I was like sixteen. Wow, it's not a good thing.

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>That's really early.

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not good.

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>But by the time I was eighteen, I started to

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>experience like I'd get psychotic if I smoked weed, really yeah,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>like panic attacks and like disassociation and awful.

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, it's really unfortunate. Why did you ask

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 3>about the wucinogenics in the first I.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Think because.

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you do seem like someone who would

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>enjoy an other worldliness, right do you?

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean are you you? You wouldn't take them? Now?

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I want it?

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Mushrooms so well.

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Mushrooms and and LSD right, And it was LSD first

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>for some reason.

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 2>It showed up at the end of high school.

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of around yeah, and there was a

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>time it kind of was popular for a while, like

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>math go popular for a while. Yeah.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I never did math. It seems so speedy from the outside.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It never looked like fun.

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'm from Britain, so teeth are a

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>challenge anyway.

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>And have you had math on tobola? It's like, where

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 2>are you going to go with that?

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 3>And then mushrooms went longer and it seemed more natural

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and more fun. And I remember hearing Jerry Garcia saying

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 3>or read in an interview that he he still likes

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 3>to do it once a year, just to clean the

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 3>pipes out.

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it was such a nice way to say it,

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like the pipes a bit really calcified

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 3>at this point. But I have this weird thing and

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 3>maybe you can give me some insight on this doctor

0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>some days inside that's someone gave me mushrooms. Yeah, And

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 3>this was several years ago, and my wife was like, oh,

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 3>we should take them, and I don't know if she

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 3>ever has And the idea of tripping with my wife,

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 3>the mother of my children, the co CEO of this

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 3>fraught enterprise.

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>The one you rely on really when you rely.

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 3>On and if if one child calls with trouble or whatever,

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 3>like it freaked me out to trip with her.

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you didn't do it.

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it.

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 2>They're still in my there's still wherever they are in the.

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they might it may not be legal to have them,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so they're in your storage locker.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, But I don't.

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 3>But I often question, like, what's wrong with you that

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to like trip with her?

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it? I don't know if this is something that

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like an unreasonable thing at all, Like I

0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>know I totally rely on my wife for the sad

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to you of our partnership, right, and I can't have

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>far Like if she is too much ywain or something,

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, because she's not an alco I'm an alcoholic,

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>so I don't drink, but she can drink.

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>But if she gets tipsy, I'm like, well, what the

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 2>fuck's gonna happen now?

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, the sorge just.

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>No one's running the base, right, Yeah, I mean, yeah,

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I think that's what it is.

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it is that. Yeah, does that is that bad?

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it Freudian? Is it like that's your mom or something? No,

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I mean we're very kind of equal.

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 3>But what like if she gets cold or like she

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 3>got COVID and yeah, it's like when she's like if

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I get sick, the house pretty much you know he's running.

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nothing really happens. Yeah, she goes down like it's

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, it's trouble. Yeah, Megan got COVID and I

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>had to make her a sandwich and.

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>It you know, you you've always been a hero.

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes you just have to push yourself the

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>extra mile.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>She said to me as I gave her the samage.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, you haven't made me a sandwich since savage pregnant.

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I was like, well, you know,

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't even want to overdo it.

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to raise your expectation. But she just

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>she likes to do that stuff.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they just you just really see, like in

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>their absence. Oh, I'm how much is I'm living in

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a dumb stary eating beans out of a can if

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I can get a.

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Can without I'm telling you that.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Have you been married a long time?

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, twenty three years. That's a week ago.

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>A week ago? Congratulations? How did you meet? Was she

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>in comedy? She was a fairy tale. It's a fairy tale.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a fairy tale. You So she was in a

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>castle under a spell, right, and you had to climb

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>up the side right of the castle by her hair.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 3>We met in New York City and then a comedy

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>club called the Comic Strip.

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and place I ever performed?

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, Lucien holds, Oh yeah, yeah.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Give me my first gig ever in line? Really wow?

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Sorry you were tell you met in the Covid struck.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>We met there yeah.

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 3>And I had a sketch group and she came and

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 3>introduced herself because she wanted to be in it.

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And I was with Ian Bagg and other great comedian.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I know who that is.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's very fun.

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 3>And Ian and I were together and she came up

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 3>and introduced herself and it was like something sparked where

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 3>she walked away and Ian when what the hell just happened?

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>What was that? Like?

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 3>You could feel like the with the two of us.

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>So we're in the back in the booth during a

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 3>show later on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so she got the job?

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she got And she was going home for Thanksgiving

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and I said, were you going tomorrow?

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm going home.

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 3>I said, where's home? Where'd you grow up? She goes,

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.719
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't know. It's a small town in New Jersey.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 3>I said where? She said, uh, Parkridge. I said, Oh,

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>did you have Miss Conway for kindergarten?

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Really?

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 3>And we had the same I was in that same

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 3>school third grade, and then I moved one town over.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>We were a year apart.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>And then we had the same summer jobs. We were

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 3>both worked in this hotel. Never met until the comic

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 3>strip when we were older.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.719
<v Speaker 2>That's bizarre. Yeah, so we had all this history.

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 3>We knew the same people, we knew the same places,

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 3>we were at the same party.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>It was meant to be. It was meant to be. No,

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>does she still work in comedy. No, she did until

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>we had children.

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then it's all and then yeah, and then

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 3>if we stayed in New York, she probably would still

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 3>dabble in it.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>She'd write for you at all.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Over.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>No, Megan writes for me.

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>She does.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't really write it.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>She goes, this is funny, and then she says the

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>thing and I go, yeah, it is. Yeah, but I

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't give too much away in case it's really funny, uh,

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>because then people can say, wow, that was a good bet.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Craig we Oh.

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>She is this weird combination where when I would run

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 3>jokes by her, yeah, I don't think she said that

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 3>it was funny once, she was always like nah yeah,

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and then at a certain point I'm like, I gotta

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 3>try this. I think she's wrong, and then like shit

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 3>was working. Yeah, but she was just so tough so

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do that. But she's very funny, so like

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>she just spouts things out and I steal them.

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I steal them. That's what I do as well. Yeah,

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Megan did this one once, but I thought, God, that's

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the great. But she was just told he wasn't even

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to be funny. She said, she said, you know,

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>seek freedom Roy. She said that proves that God exists.

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And I went, okay, that's interesting. Tell me why seek

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>freedom Roy proves God exists? And she said, she said,

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>because what are the odds? Like there's always someone for

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>someone said if you're a young gay Austrian lion tamer

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.239
<v Speaker 1>walking around Austria.

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Saying, oh what, it's me.

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I am a gay Austrian lion tamer, doomed because of

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>my interests to be alone in life. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>bump into another guy who's also a gay Austrian lin tamer,

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like it's like, there you are.

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>That's you did that as a bit, didn't you.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I did? Yeah, because I remember it. Yeah yeah. And

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it was from Megan saying though, wow, I think that

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I stole it for him.

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to. You ever hear Shimmels bit. No,

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Robert sim Robert schml you.

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know him.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:26.479
<v Speaker 2>I know he is very funny.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 3>He had one of my favorite jokes of his was

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<v Speaker 3>Sigfried and Roy that you know the lion at the

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<v Speaker 3>end turned and yeah and ate Roy or and uh

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 3>he said, uh, I forget the complete setup, but it

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 3>was the lions are there. People act surprised at these lions.

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Ate Sigfried or Roy. He said, you take these lions

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<v Speaker 3>from the jungle, from the from the wild, and you

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 3>bring them to Las Vegas and you spray, you sprape,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 3>ain't them pink? And they have to do two shows night.

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 3>At one point the tiger was to turn to the

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 3>other and said, this ship ends tonight.

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Well as it turns out, because I have to say

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>this because people will go crazy. The tiger the eight

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Roy didn't eat them.

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like he had a stroke and the tiger picked

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>him up really pick up there, but yeah, well, was

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>he had a stroke. The tiger picked them up because

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 1>it was worried about him, and it.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Looked like the tiger was going tiger on him, but

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>He was moving him, no, because he realized he was sick.

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I never heard that. Yeah, And when he came around.

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Roy's first thing was they didn't put The first thing

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he said was like they didn't put down the Tiger?

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you put down the Tiger? And they said, no,

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 2>we didn't do it because.

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So it was, as it turned out, a Disney ending

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to the story. That is so nice.

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've played Vegas, right?

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you enjoy it?

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I do enjoy It's confusing to me, though, why because

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I never know who's coming to those shows, Like whenever

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>I have to promote a show in Vegas, yeah, I'm like,

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.280
<v Speaker 3>who is it locals that live in Vegas? Because everyone

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 3>else seems to come in for seventy two hours and

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:15.479
<v Speaker 3>lead right?

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the I like it though, Yeah, I

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>think the audiences are tricky because I always feel the

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>people that are coming to see you like you're part

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>of the buffet. Really is yea you want shrimp or

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>tom pop? Right, here's some tickets to go.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But I find that those audiences are better than

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 3>other casino kind of audiences, like Vegas now is a

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 3>little bit more of a city it is.

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's good.

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>When's the first first time you played it?

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Am I having a stroke? Or do I smell bacon?

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, somebody might have passed gas. You guys

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>don't smell that, But I don't eat bacon, so I

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>don't do one of you guys pass gas. I think

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm having a stroke. You know, I don't think smelling

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>bay and as a stroke. But if I have a struggle,

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>you put me up in your mouth and take me. Yeah,

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I will left you up. I'll put you in my

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>mouth like a tiger, and I'll take you to another

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>part of the stage and then people won't put me down.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Are you hypochondriac? No? I, well I'm getting that way

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>older you are.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you you don't like But you didn't even

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I was on my road to be I was on

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 3>my way to becoming one.

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, how did you stop children? No, I'm hyperchondract for

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the kids too, for the Yeah, hypochondract by proxy. It

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>is all fearful, it is, I think having kids. It's

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like I don't until you have kids. Most of the

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>great philosophers didn't have children. Is that true? Yeah?

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it sounds like it sounds good.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>But do you think of like Schopenhauer, no kids, Emmanuel can't,

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>no kids. Cart I don't think you had any kids. No,

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I had like twenty.

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Plato wrote down Socrates.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Shit, now that we have to remember about Plato is

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like Plato is so great, Well he kind of wrote

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>down So's bets right, Socrates was doing the bets and

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Plato was typing it right.

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not sure.

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I suppose he aristotles Aristotles maybe Chile. Why

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think that is? Because because I think when

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you have kids, you're like, you can't think, your worldview changes,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>can't think of anything else. Well, you have time, and

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean some like I think Bertram Russell had like

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>thirteen kids, but.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it kind of makes I mean, I don't know,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>without having kids, I feel like you're missing a piece

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 3>if you're trying to develop a worldview and philosophy, what's

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 3>why we're all here, et cetera, et cetera. It seems

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 3>like without going through that experience, it seems like it

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 3>was kind of like the hypochondriac thing. I was becoming

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 3>a hypochondriac, and because I was becoming too self involved,

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 3>it was me, me and my.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Thing, and the whole philosophy is that, Yeah, this peers

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>up his own us right past its outdoor pros thing.

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So like unless you unless you have that balance

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not I'm part of me is saying this

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 3>because I'm being judgmental of them, but also because I'm

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 3>not going to read all their stuff anyway, So I

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 3>want an excuse of why I'm not right.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to read you stuff you don't have kids,

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.479
<v Speaker 2>like you never had kids. Yeah, so I shut up. Yeah,

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll just read the quotes I see on T shirts.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's it's quotes on T shirts is

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>usually enough. Yeah, like I went down a rabbit hole

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 1>with all that stuff for a while.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 3>You're drawn to that, Yeah, I am, you know what

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm drawn to it. In podcasts, I like I

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 3>like listening to people debate about it. I like the

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 3>when I was like a little after college, like maybe

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 3>eight ten years after college, I started reading some of

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 3>it and I realized quickly, like, there's no end to this.

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 3>This is no this is going to suck up a

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of time. And you know, some of you get

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 3>some things out of it, which are cool, but this

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 3>is really endless, and no one each is the end

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 3>or has an answer. But now with podcasts, I really

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 3>do like listening to people muddle through the same questions.

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's listen to it. Let's muddle through some of

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>those questions. And as a philosopher, we are now too

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>philosophers setting here. Yeah, I know. Does that mean that

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>we're no longer doctors. No, we're doctors of philosophy. Okay,

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of like doctor phil or were doctors, but

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody really knows of what and we just talked too much.

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>We just have big opinion. Yeah, we have big opinion

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that we shout. I'm very judging of other Yeah, judgmental

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>of other people. I mean, it's like what you need

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to do. It's like, whoa, come on?

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Is that helpful?

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Sound like you're wrong to me? Yeah, No, you're future

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the bad person.

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 2>What this isn't helpful at all?

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Really isn't.

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So we are both I think we're both post

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Enlightenment philosophers. Yes, all right, so we're we're discussing philosophy

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>after Dycard.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, in the modern world.

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>So Daycard in Discourse.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>On Method if you read that, No, all right, So

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>as the book he wrote, he's quite young themticut and

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>he wrote a book called Discourse on Method, which I'm

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>going to paraphrase it obviously, but he said that he

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>was going to prove the existence of God using reason

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>instead of faith, so wouldn't be revetlatory kind of like

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>burning bush things. He would base his entire belief on God,

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>on reason, giving birth to the enlightenment, I think, And

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he would only base it on stuff that he'd experienced personally.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 1>That was his reason.

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's the basis for stand up comedy.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Aha, of the type that you do, certainly and the

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 1>type that I do.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 3>In the searching like that, this is all for validation

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 3>of It's well, maybe some level is a SUCHI of validation,

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 3>but it's also it's a search to try and explain

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 3>how fucking crazy everything is, or how crazy it seems

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 3>to be, or or look just looking at something from

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 3>a different angle.

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, not a flower.

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's proof of the existence of God. Or it's

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>not just Siegfried and Roy entertainers, although this is my

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>wife's philosophy.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>It's proof of the existence of God, you know what

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like right, trying to find well, you're saying, not

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 3>just to solve, not just to make sense of the world,

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 3>but actually to prove that there is a God. I

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 3>don't know, do you think there is a God, I do,

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 3>but it's a tricky it's a tricky like we'll call

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 3>it God right, But there's so many different definitions of

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 3>what people write.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about angry Santa own a cloud. I

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's real.

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but maybe I don't know. I mean, it's

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 3>it's people's interpret like. It seems to me at this

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 3>point that every organized religion, every form of meditation, every

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 3>small practice, they're all acknowledging a presence of this constant

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 3>hum right that we all sense is there. And Christians

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 3>interpret it and pulled it down and tried to make

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 3>sense of it and say this is this God. And

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Muslims did that, and TM says, get quiet and tune

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:38.240
<v Speaker 3>into that. So I believe that that is God right,

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 3>that thing, that that force.

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that, but it's unknowable. It is ultimately

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a noble Well see, I think that that is. There

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>are areas of certainly early Christian philosophy where that was

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>part of the deal.

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.879
<v Speaker 2>There was a guy called Origin of Alexandria.

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with them? Now? Origin of Alexandria was

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a late second century early third century, so pre Roman

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Empire Christianity a lot of his stuff was lost because

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it was burned in the Library of Alexandria fire. But

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 1>he was excommunicated about five hundred years after he died

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>because he said that God was unknoble and there could

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>be no physical representation and manifestation of the Deity, which

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>is not what you want to hear when you're selling.

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Chajcuse, Yeah, shows up right.

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>So no, he very much believed in JC but he

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>very did not believe in physical representations of idolatry.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Basically, I guess it would have become crosses and.

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>As symbolism and stuff that you couldn't know that, And

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>people get very upset with him because of that.

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>But he was, but he was He believed in Jesus.

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 2>He did believe. He was a Christian. Yeah, he believed

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 2>in the in the idea of Christ.

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Being the Messiah and the reason It's like I always

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>had a problem with that until it's not that I

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with it. I still struggle with it.

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But I read C. S. Lewis or you know who

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>wrote the Narnia. Yeah, he was a very big Christian apologist,

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and he wrote a couple of books.

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 2>What Christians believe is a very.

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Good one of them, and he talks about what you

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>just talked about, which is why he's not when he was.

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>An atheist, and of course he was.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>At one point he said, it's too religious apposition to

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 1>take because you're saying that everybody else is wrong, right,

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Whereas he said, if you're a Christian, you can say, well,

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the Hindus and the Muslims are they don't have it right,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>we have it right, or the or if you're a Muslim,

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you say we have it right. But what you're not

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.959
<v Speaker 1>saying is that there is no God right. And he said,

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like arithmetic, like some there's only one

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>correct answer, but some answers are pretty close, but there's

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>only one correct time right. And I still don't buy

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that either. Yeah, but I like your idea of the home. Yeah, well,

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it's I feel like it for me.

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 3>It's an overwhelming sense of something, of that that thing,

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 3>that God thing, and we have millions of human beings

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to wrangle that down and interpret it, and and

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel like they're all right and they're

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:33.880
<v Speaker 3>all wrong. You know what I mean? Were you raised

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>it in religion? Was raised Catholic in the same church

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 3>that Bill Maher went to. Okay, he was older than

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 3>I was, but we lived in the same town. And

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 3>it's funny because he starts his whole documentary against religion, religiosity.

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:48.959
<v Speaker 1>I think it's.

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Religulous in front of the stained glass that I looked

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 3>at as a kid from the pews.

0:45:55.680 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Yeah, he's very anti religion, very anti religion, and

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot out of it. I enjoyed it. Catholicism, Yeah,

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>did you're just going to church? Did your kids get confirmed?

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 2>And stuff?

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 3>They didn't know my wife because kindergarten, that whole story,

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 3>she went to the same church. She comes out on

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 3>the Bill Maher side right, more than my side.

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm too afraid to I would be too

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>afraid to be completely atheistic as well, because I'd be like,

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that's when.

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to get wrong right at the end.

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I know there's lots of problems with

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 3>the church, and there's lots of problems, but that's not

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 3>the same as God.

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 3>So, but we didn't baptize our kids, and one kind

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 3>of gravitated away and kind of like to reason, and

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 3>my other one is always looking for a church, like

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 3>she's always she wants looking at that. And I got

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 3>and I had I was more that way, like I got.

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 3>I liked going someplace. Not as a kid, I was

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 3>fighting it, you know, but I like one hour out

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 3>of every week where you're just tending to that thing,

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 3>that puzzle, that God, that you, that spirit, that thing.

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot out of it. I think it

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 3>made me kinder. I think it made me more you know,

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 3>helps people. Yeah, like with all the you know, and

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 3>I I don't practice and go to church anymore, but

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I still.

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.320
<v Speaker 2>You still think of yourself as a Catholic.

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to some degree.

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you think about the inevitable much?

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I don't.

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, while I'm thinking about everything else all the time.

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>You think about it?

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Do you think about it all the time? Pretty often? Yeah,

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I suppose.

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>So. The older I get, the more I'm like, yeah,

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 1>this isn't like so distant anymore. No, I always I

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>had ca'd.

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I lost some people really young, like some friends when

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 3>like high school, like eighth grade's ninth grade?

0:47:57.760 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 2>A lord, what happened?

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Accidents I've lost I've lost a lot of best I've

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>lost three best friends good from real from fourteen to

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty two.

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>That's horrible. I'm said, it is hard to hear that. Yeah,

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was rough, but it was.

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 3>But it definitely gave me a perspective of how death

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:24.919
<v Speaker 3>is always there, and it alleviated a fear of it.

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Really. It gave me.

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 3>It didn't give me like comfort, but it gave me

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.799
<v Speaker 3>just a perspective that, you know, this is all very temporary.

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 3>And so I always kind of with a little you know,

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 3>a little smirk, was like when people would be like,

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe she died at eighty five.

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I can't believe.

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, people seem shocked by death when it happens,

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 3>or that they're or that they're heading that way, and

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 3>just so I think from going through that early on,

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I've always been just kind of like, yeah, guys, this

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 3>is yeah, it's yeah, it's you're not getting closer to

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 3>it just because you're getting older, you've been close to

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 3>it all that's.

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 2>All the time.

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>It's always there. Yeah. The idea of it, though, do

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>you do you ruminate on on.

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 2>The apre ski of it old? Do you think of

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>what's next?

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I really am hopeful that it's that it continues in

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 3>some form.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I really do. I really I think that would be.

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like when you start to you know, when

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 3>you start to I have really hard time getting my

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 3>head around physics and time and space. But like when

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 3>you start to deal with like there's all versions of

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.280
<v Speaker 3>this happening all the time, at different laces and everywhere,

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 3>all at once. Yeah, it's just like I mean, it

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 3>just seems so spectacular and so magical, this life and

0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 3>that if and if what I understand, these physics people

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 3>are a looking around that.

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 1>There's a great guy. I don't know if you've come

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.720
<v Speaker 1>across from. His name is Brian Cox, not the actor

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Brian Cox. He's an astrophysicist and he lectures I think

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 1>at Cambridge or Oxford, one of the like. Yeah, and

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>he's he's a contemporary probably of you or I somewhere

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.320
<v Speaker 1>a little older than you, maybe a younger than me maybe,

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>but he like wears Joy Division T shirts and listens

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to good music and he understands references that we would understand.

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's very good at explaining massive astro really, yeah,

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 1>he's great at it and does it?

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Does he help you retain it? Yeah?

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 1>If you look, you'll find him on Have you heard

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>You guys, get the Internet in the valley.

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Not yeah, but it's coming. You get the internet.

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Look up Brian Cox, astrophysicist, and he did. He's done

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of shows for the BBC. Okay, he's you.

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Know, he's good friends with Eric Idle. Do you know Eric?

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but yeah, all right, so

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>well Eric is friendly with him, and Eric's very drawn

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:05.399
<v Speaker 1>to all of that. Yeah yeah, if you right that,

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>just remember that, just ending on it. That's all accurate, right, yeah,

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>all the physics, all the science in that song. Correct, Eric,

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. But he's very very interesting and very very good.

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And he did this, he did this show for the

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 1>BBC and he was talking about the multiverse, the idea

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>of everything being everywhere in time and I'll screw it

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>up because it's complicated, but basically, everything exists all the

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 1>time is a possibility, right, But we can and we

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 1>can travel forward through it, but we can't travel backwards

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 1>through it. It's just not like a valve. I put

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the word valve and he didn't use the word valve.

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I like it. It's helping me. But when my father died,

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>my oldest son was very young. I think he was

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>four or five when my father died and he was

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>very upset. Yeah, And we were lying in the back garden,

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in the backyard in la and we were looking at

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the stars and my dad had just died and my

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.879
<v Speaker 1>son was crying and he said, Dad, I don't want

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>any like this to ever happen to us. He said, well,

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, okay, And he said I just can we

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 1>just stay here lying in the backyard looking at the

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>stars forever? And I said, yes, yes we can. And

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was just being nice to him. And

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.919
<v Speaker 1>years later, that kid who's now growing up and there's

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of opinions about things and it's very smart.

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And we're watching Brian Cox in a house in Scotland,

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:44.839
<v Speaker 1>in my house in Scotland, and we're watching it and

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Mila was there and he's growing up now and he

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 1>was explaining that everything exists all the time was And

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I said, do you remember that when when Papa died?

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And he said I do. I said, I thought I

0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:59.319
<v Speaker 1>was just being nice to you. I didn't realize I

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was telling you the truth. And we both cried for

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:04.919
<v Speaker 1>a bit. Yeah, gorgeous. Yeah, I'm trying not to cry

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, it is.

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.319
<v Speaker 3>And I think that I think that that to me

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 3>because of lack of understanding and having a scientific Brian

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Cox's mind, I call it all magic, right, you.

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Know, I think, which is why semantics.

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, science, science is magic that's been explained, right,

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I think a little bit or magic is science that

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:28.399
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been explained. Yeah.

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 3>So I I am open to all of it, and

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I really am hopeful for all of it. And I like,

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 3>like too much weird stuff happens all the time of

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 3>dreaming and having it happen glimpses, you know. I know

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 3>people say it's coincidence, but it happens with such frequency

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 3>of thinking about your wife and her calling me, or

0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:55.280
<v Speaker 3>like any of those kind of things that are always

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 3>happening all the time. I totally am all in and

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 3>embracing and open to any kind of mystical explanation that

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 3>this is indeed reality.

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's how I like to be with

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it too.

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that is.

0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>People get very upset if other people don't agree with

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:19.720
<v Speaker 1>their belief system, which.

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't understand.

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, if you're so secure in your in your belief,

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>why would it bother you? That I don't believe it,

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 1>or I have a different point of view, I don't

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>understand it.

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't need people to believe what I believe.

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, because you're also, from what I can tell,

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 3>open to anything. You're fluid, You're not going to be

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.279
<v Speaker 3>static like no, this is this is the way it

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.240
<v Speaker 3>or you know what I mean, Like, well.

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>That, but that's interesting because if you're a Catholic, that

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of is the deal, that this is the only

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>thing that's true.

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, but that's why I'm not That's why

0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:58.840
<v Speaker 3>you're not all I mean, that's it's to deny that

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 3>my life and worldview as an influenced by it is wrong.

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's definitely in there, of course, but there's

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot of grown up things that I have to

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 3>put aside.

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I remember being back in church with my for a

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 3>baptism and I was sitting next to my sister and

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 3>she hadn't been the church from forever, and she was

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 3>like seething during the and I was like, just take

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 3>the good parts, yeah, and she's like, this is misogynist,

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 3>this is I'm very uncomfortable being here. I'm not into this.

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:34.879
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, yeah, but what about all the

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 3>forgiveness and the love. And I know that guy's a creep,

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 3>and I know that I've done some weird stuff and yeah,

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:44.439
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't make sense, and they're just sliding abortion in there.

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 1>And I know, but.

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Look at the look at the stained glass.

0:55:53.880 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe one of the darkest things I've ever heard. You

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>tend to those, as far as I can tell from

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>your work. Yeah, you tend to stay away from the

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>controversy of that though, don't you. You kind of you

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Your company to me seems personal, which I is. I

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 1>like that I'm drawing to that because no one else

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>can do it, he said Tom Papa, which is great.

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 2>So if I'm watching Tonapapa, that's what I'm getting, I'm

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 2>right doing anybody else.

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like i'm I have I don't think

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:32.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm smart enough to wrestle some of the big things

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:37.680
<v Speaker 3>down and then present them as fact, right, you know

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:40.680
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. I do feel like I'm more metaphorical.

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you something about the world based on

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:48.839
<v Speaker 3>my relationship with my father or a story about being

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 3>with my daughter in the supermarket, like I can metaphorically

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 3>tell tales that maybe will make sense about the world

0:56:56.320 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 3>in their entirety. But for me, I say this is

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 3>my stance on gun control. No, I can't do that.

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 3>I just don't. They're very complex issues. They're complex, and

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<v Speaker 3>also they're they're very on fire issues.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that the reason why I started doing

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<v Speaker 1>comedy was to try to escalate dangerous situations that I

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 1>was in through an accident of birth. So like, if

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a violent school yard or as a violent environment,

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 1>or there's a violent place, then humor to me was

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<v Speaker 1>this is how we stop should getting worse, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like take everybody's mind from here and throw it onto

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<v Speaker 1>something over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And I.

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't feel I wouldn't feel comfortable doing the stuff that

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>makes everybody angry, yeah, because that's not how I got.

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Into it, I know. Yeah, that's a good point.

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Everybody already was angry, right Yeah, Yeah, like they are too.

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I think everybody's waiting for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean probably the biggest ones right now would be

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 3>in the States is abortion and guns.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And nothing you or I is going to change

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:09.480
<v Speaker 1>anybody's mind. Nothing we say is going to change anybody's

0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 1>mind on any side of that debate at all. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's because it is becoming very glaring having two

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 3>daughters and being like, oh, here's a list of states

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to live, you know what I mean, Like,

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 3>holy cow. But I just don't. I just have a

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.160
<v Speaker 3>hard time. Like I feel like there's people that are

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 3>better at it. I feel like Bill Maher can wrestle down.

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 2>And he does it very well.

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And he doesn't he doesn't care if people get mad

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>at No, that's another thing that's very you gotta have that.

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>You have to be built that way. Yeah, Bill, Bill

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is like people when people yell out and call him Namesey's.

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't care, right exactly. I care deeply me too.

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh I tell a joke about a cat and someone

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 3>yells at me.

0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I.

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Didn't mean it.

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like someone I've got a negative thing, like I

0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 1>never read comments. Say it when I do, and I do,

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh no, it's I can't.

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I never read comments unless I sense that they're going

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 3>in a very positive direction. Right then I'll soak them

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 3>in and then they hit you with a bad one.

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<v Speaker 3>Then those are crazy.

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's it's like you know when people used to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember at the beginning, people who are saying, if

0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>you read the good reviews about yourself, you have to

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>read the bad, do you?

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 2>No, you don't, You only have to read the good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I'm so glad you said. I always

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 1>hear that only read good reviews about yourself. Yeah, why

0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>do I have to read the bat It's like when

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>people say my wife is my toughest critic. I say, look,

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:41.960
<v Speaker 1>then your marriage is fucking dum my. My wife like like,

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, stuff, you are so great, thank You're you're

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:47.800
<v Speaker 1>nearly as good as stump Papa, she will say.

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I'll just stand there with my wife and she's

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 3>not giving me enough praise, and I just kind of

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 3>like linger like a puppy, and then she's you can

0:59:54.800 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 3>see her clocket and be like, you're really great, thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning with me and I was getting off because

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<v Speaker 1>she was telling me how good you were, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I know he's good that I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to doing the show because I know he's good, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know he's really good. Yeah, And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a hopeful moment she mean, you know he's not you right, yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you right late. That's what it is, Tom, It

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<v Speaker 1>is a joy to talk to you. You too, I

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<v Speaker 1>really I am a huge admirer of your work. Likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you are who you say you are,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you are who you say you are, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge admirer of you. If you have a

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a secret double life where you're being

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<v Speaker 1>horrible man, you know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty uh, this is pretty much what you get. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's word on the street is yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>you are that guy. Yeah you work with Joe Bolter.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I know. I was just thinking that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking, I really enjoy talking to you

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, and you know, we see each other not

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<v Speaker 3>often enough, right, and I feel like, even when there's

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<v Speaker 3>no podcast going on, we should we should hang. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it would be lovely and it would be really cool,

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<v Speaker 3>and we can keep the wives out of it, but

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<v Speaker 3>it would be really cool, just because I know it

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<v Speaker 3>would probably bother Joe Bolter that you and I ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>become friends.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good thing that Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who don't know which that presum

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<v Speaker 1>is most people, Joe is the producer of your show. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe writes for me sometimes he's very funny. He's

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<v Speaker 1>very funny. And also he was the front end of

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<v Speaker 1>the pant of My horse on the Old Lately Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now when you see Cordon wrapping up that show, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you get because there's financially not much because no,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean what do you get from his experience and

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<v Speaker 3>like wrapping it up? Because you wrapped it up kind

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<v Speaker 3>of early like he did eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, I did ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's you know a lot of other guys

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<v Speaker 3>go for twenty or thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think James and I had an advantage over

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<v Speaker 1>because if you watch Trevor Nor wrapped it up too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, what if you grow up in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and the tradition of late night soaked into

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<v Speaker 1>your bones like from then, then you have a reverence

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<v Speaker 1>for it that I never had. I don't think James

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<v Speaker 1>has God, and I don't think Trevor has it either.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is it's a gig, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good gig, and it's lovely, but it's also you wear

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<v Speaker 1>a suit and you sit behind a desk. And I

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<v Speaker 1>come from a you know, a whole ethos which the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing you could do is wear a suit and

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<v Speaker 1>set behind the desk. You were always clawing it off

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<v Speaker 1>in little Yeah, I mean, and it was. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, in all honesty, I think that's what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're born into it, you can stand it longer.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember saying to James, you'll stay ten, but you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go after eight. He said, I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go after six because I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>after six. And he said, oh, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do. I went, that'd be my guess. And he

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<v Speaker 1>stayed longer than I thought he would. I stayed longer

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<v Speaker 1>than I thought I would. Right, Is it something you

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<v Speaker 1>would ever do? Are you drawn to that? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I was early on it seemed it's I like hosting things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I do like hosting, thank you, But it's but that

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<v Speaker 3>gig you just I don't know, I don't it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the appeal any longer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the the place that it has in the

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<v Speaker 3>culture is kind of good. Change changed. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I just feel like it's not the I

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<v Speaker 3>host other things. Yeah, you know, I host these radio

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<v Speaker 3>shows and podcasts and things, and it's like we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>enough of that I'd rather take with the other energy

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<v Speaker 3>and put it towards writing my books and maybe make

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<v Speaker 3>that film.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, how I felt with that it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>making me do the same thing over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say this that what really did it

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<v Speaker 1>for me, And this was about five or six years.

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<v Speaker 1>If you walk into I noticed it after five or

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<v Speaker 1>six years. It was happening from the very beginning, from

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<v Speaker 1>the first day. You walk into a building and your

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<v Speaker 1>photograph is everywhere, and all the walls of the building,

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<v Speaker 1>all the offices, everybody's office, there's photographs of you everywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all the stationery and all the paper and

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<v Speaker 1>all the envelopes that all has your name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is your name is everywhere, and your photographs everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's about one hundred and fifty people there and

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<v Speaker 1>all they want to do is.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you have a good day. Yeah, it's fucking hell. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hell really, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't realize that because that's not real. That's crazy time.

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<v Speaker 2>It is crazy time. But there is a part that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds very appealing. Yeah, it does sound very appealing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think to an adolescent narcissistic personality like mine,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great. Yeah, until there's a tiny little chink

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<v Speaker 1>of human decency in me. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>come fucking life like this, a little humility and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you paranoid. Do you think everyone's lying to you? Oh? Really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And you also think anyone who says anything negative to

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<v Speaker 1>you is your enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's messed up. It took me a while to figure out.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever see that Steve Harvey thing that remember that

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<v Speaker 3>it leaked like a memo basically to everyone on his show. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know how to act and how to Oh god,

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of has shades of what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's in this rarefied space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's driving him crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all the little things are real, Like it was

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<v Speaker 3>like when not to knock?

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<v Speaker 1>When to you know, when when make up with? Like

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<v Speaker 1>all the little like it was a little it's nutty.

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<v Speaker 1>And also people tell lies about you as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>people there are what forms around you, and it's not you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the position you're in. So what forms around

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<v Speaker 1>you is access is the currency, access to the hostess currency.

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<v Speaker 1>So people jostle with each other about how to get

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<v Speaker 1>access to you, and what happens is is they will

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<v Speaker 1>tell this is the lie that you hear about everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I first heard it about Letterman. I also heard about

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Lopez. I've heard it about a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>and it's this, don't look at them directly in the eye. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, yeah, I heard it about myself. Did you realize, like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at them directly in the eye. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the what the fuck about me? He says to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't look me directly in the eye. That so

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<v Speaker 1>they do that, so that what happens is you as

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<v Speaker 1>the person that no one's looking you directly in the

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<v Speaker 1>I think, god, everyone's a bit cold people. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>look you in the eye?

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<v Speaker 2>Get well? At least this guy can look me in

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<v Speaker 2>the eye. Yeah, and you can, you can talk to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel creatively doing the show, doing your things?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fine because it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because once you get to the stage of things

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<v Speaker 1>different because I wrote pretty much on stage right right,

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<v Speaker 1>your MiGs are very different. So it was I felt

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<v Speaker 1>okay with that. Do you feel like when you do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel creatively hammed in when you're hosting?

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<v Speaker 2>Depending on who it is, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a little you know, I'm very curious, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's like fun to te in it in ours is

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<v Speaker 3>comedy based, so we very rarely have an actor who

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not interested in and I've got to go through

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes with Yeah, it's usually a comic of some

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<v Speaker 3>regard finding their way, and it's kind of a comfortable space.

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<v Speaker 3>I do sometimes get a little bit like I should

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<v Speaker 3>be I should be writing instead of talking about this

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<v Speaker 3>guy in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Just remember socracies though he didn't write anything. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>write a fucking thing nothing. Yeah, and everybody thinks he's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Very quickly as well, because I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I want to touch on it, although I don't

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bang on about it. But you know the

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<v Speaker 1>thing right now, the word that people use is wool obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but the idea you can say things and not saying

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<v Speaker 1>other things. And we talked about it when I was

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<v Speaker 1>on your show a little bit. What's your position on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find it inhibiting? Do you find that even

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<v Speaker 1>a thing in your life? Is it something you complain about?

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<v Speaker 3>Or I think it was a useful I mean woke

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<v Speaker 3>awakening right that word, It was a hey, let's wake up,

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<v Speaker 3>let's snap out of this for a second, Should we

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<v Speaker 3>be saying this about gay people, say this about heavy women?

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<v Speaker 3>Should we like it was like okay, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from going through the clubs and stuff earlier. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like that stuff that people were saying were like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it was it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rough, and it was I think that was good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was positive.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was I think it was cool, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think it also in the comedy world it gave

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<v Speaker 3>room for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it opened up comedy to people that weren't

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<v Speaker 1>getting in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, and you're hearing all these different voices and

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<v Speaker 3>it's great. I think that was all very positive. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I think there's a negative side to it, where

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<v Speaker 3>people are using it to advance themselves. It's a power

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<v Speaker 3>thing and people are getting you know, there's the big cancels, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and the big debates and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's also a very subtle underthing of people not

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<v Speaker 3>people losing opportunities and things based just on who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's anti woke, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's kind of like it's like a racism kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gone around the wheel, and there's a lot of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I think it's been abused.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like humans will take advantage of any situation

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<v Speaker 1>to advance themselves. Certain humans will do that no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what the situation is. Yeah, I think the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I felt, but it was the idea of shouting

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<v Speaker 1>down the blue hair kids if you were like a

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<v Speaker 1>big timey successful comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems a little like bullying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you mean, well, you know that, like

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<v Speaker 1>you would go like, I remember, because I was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, uh, it was to that same kid

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling you about my son. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say what you want to say anymore? And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, what do you want to say? Well, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>but what do you want to say that you can't say? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing. But other guys can't say fuck them dad,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, what can you not say that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say?

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<v Speaker 2>I said nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, yeah, there is a there is a part that

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we're not celebrating each other anymore like

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<v Speaker 3>there was. It was fun to talk about what we

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<v Speaker 3>are and differences and the warts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like my Italian family and make all those jokes

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<v Speaker 3>about that and the Chinese family and they all the

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<v Speaker 3>jokes about that, and it was like, it was cool

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<v Speaker 3>and it was fun and we are different and we

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<v Speaker 3>do grow. You know, you talk to all comedians and

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<v Speaker 3>if I talk to Russell Peters, he'll go off about

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<v Speaker 3>Indian families. And it was just like and it's great

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<v Speaker 3>and and I love that because it's all families and

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<v Speaker 3>it's all culture, and I love that soup and that

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<v Speaker 3>you can't even say where that person came from or

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<v Speaker 3>where you came from, or like that part is it's I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's the algorithm. That's that's just AI getting.

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<v Speaker 1>In the way of human interactions, like you know, making

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<v Speaker 1>people believe they all have to be part, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to agree in order to get along, right me, I

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<v Speaker 1>have good friends, good friends who I think, are you know, assholes?

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<v Speaker 1>They're my friends, right exactly. Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to work this out on stage that

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, there's no secrets anymore, like we've we've

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<v Speaker 3>kind of through technology and research, we've kind of unveiled

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<v Speaker 3>everything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like and it's kind of it's kind of upsetting

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't have any heroes anymore. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>Martin Luther King, you know, cheated and his wife where

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<v Speaker 3>JFK did this and all these people in it's like

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<v Speaker 3>and we're tearing everything down.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm hoping that.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like we have to come out of it

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<v Speaker 3>with the understanding there's no perfection. That kind of is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the lesson that nobody's The good things

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<v Speaker 3>that they did should override the small foibles that they

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<v Speaker 3>well and also be realistic.

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<v Speaker 2>About what life is like.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this thing in the act recently about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when Megan Markle and Prince Harry said there's

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<v Speaker 1>a racist in the royal family, Like, yeah, it's a family.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know who the racist is in your family

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<v Speaker 1>is because it's you, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like even.

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<v Speaker 1>Any Thanksgiving dinner over our grandpa starts talking, here.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes, yeah, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We got it. And I think that people can have

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<v Speaker 1>views which you find distasteful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I mean, look, I had one joke in

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<v Speaker 3>a special and it cost me a game show what Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know for my work, this isn't coming from

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<v Speaker 3>a hateful place. The joke was misinterpreted and I knew

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<v Speaker 3>what I was doing, and it was very clear in

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<v Speaker 3>the joke and someone saw it in my special and

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<v Speaker 3>they caused a problem at the entity and they so

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have it now. And in analyzing whether or not,

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<v Speaker 3>they started going through all my stuff where they were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure it out, Craig, they went through all

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<v Speaker 3>my every thirty years everything. I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 3>six Joe Rogan three hour podcasts each, like, they went

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<v Speaker 3>through everything, could not come up with one thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>you have this one joke that was misinterpreted and they

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<v Speaker 3>tore it all down for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so like fucking so for that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm very cognizant that it can go too

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<v Speaker 3>far and then.

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<v Speaker 2>It and that does sound like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's going to take an adjustment. We we

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<v Speaker 3>kind of blew it up. This is nice and we

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<v Speaker 3>can all the positives. Now it's gotten too far. Where's

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<v Speaker 3>the balance? Where are we going to find? Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we all we're all better as a culture, but we

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<v Speaker 3>haven't lust our sense of.

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<v Speaker 1>Humor from your mouth to God wherever that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. If if a vibration has.

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<v Speaker 1>Ears, probably has a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe mostly That's why