WEBVTT - REWIND: ROCCSTAR - Ghetto Casserole 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.040 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.560 I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:26.040 special guest. Grammy Award winning producer sold over fifty million records, is. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:30.000 Probably over records. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:36.200 So rock Star producer rock Star is in the building. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:36.800 What's up? 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.040 And self made? Self made, self made, self made to 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.639 the max, to the max slept on floors. I've heard, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.680 I've heard the rumors. I'm so excited to have you 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:51.600 in the building. And you're gonna have to feed me, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.400 of course, so what do you what are you gonna 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:54.080 feed me? 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.600 We're doing well my broke dish. Really this should be 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.360 Eating while uh broke as hell if you want to 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.039 add that as hell, because I was the ass hell part. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:09.840 It's unbelievable. But right now, this dish ray here is 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.520 called ghetto cast role and it was the chicken top 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.680 ramen mixed in with a turkey burger burger that I 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.040 seasoned up, chopped up, put into the situation, mixed up 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.880 and just changed the world with that guy me I'm 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.880 talking about that had me full for you know, I'm 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.679 talking about the whole day that pretty much was it 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.040 to the point where people just started requesting, let me 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:31.640 get some ghetto. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.200 Okay, oh you really named it that. That was like 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:39.080 the coin name that you gave it back. I've never 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.360 had ghetto cast role. I'm very I'm a hater of 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.600 Ramen because we've taped over one hundred and twenty episodes 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.200 and everybody, and I say even people be like I 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.440 thought she hated ram I'm like, I can only block 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.440 Ramen so much in a broke show. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.080 You know, it's crazy. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.000 But when I see a Ramen with a flair, I 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.920 really believe that the individual was probably, like you said, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.920 broke as hell. Yeah, you know, you had it so 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.080 many times that you had to up it. Go ahead, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:12.160 start off popping it off. And while you're in this 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.280 kitchen cooking, I want you to take me back to 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.600 what was going on when you was broke as hell? 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:25.000 Okay, well, I mean there's just so many years of 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.120 being broke as hell. Like, which part of being broke 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.440 as hell did you want to have the conversation about, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.680 because you know, I mean, I come from absolutely nothing, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.360 so I was broke as hell the whole time. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:41.880 Where are you from originally? 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:47.559 So I'm from like Los Angeles of course. So California. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:54.119 But I've lived all over South Central, all over Inglewood, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:03:00.160 all the trash this I'm like, yeah, but first you 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.640 gotta like you gotta. If you don't do that, it 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.000 don't even taste the same. But we're gonna put that 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.080 over there, because that's what that's gonna be at. I 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.000 lived all over South Central, Inglewood and all over LA 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.480 everywhere in La all you know what I mean, and 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.720 then also all over the valley too, you know what 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:23.320 I mean. So yeah, yeah until that. My parents were 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.080 married until I was about twelve and then they split. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:28.960 So right when I turned into a teenager and started 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.400 going outside, it was yeah, I was dolo, okay. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.120 And then did you also always know you were going 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:36.000 to get into music? 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:37.760 You know? 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:39.440 Nah? 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.000 Not really. I thought I was going to be an actor, 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.400 which I ended up being on love and hip hop 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.560 and different stuff. It's kind of a version of acting. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:51.680 But I started off, you know, coming out, you know, 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:56.360 and like my my, my mom put me into acting 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.000 and I was the stand up comedy champion at Lave 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:04.800 Factory for like three years with Jamie Massada. So Jamie Masada, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.360 which was the left he put me in and I 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.000 was young, but I was so good that him, Paul 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.840 Rodriguez and all of them put me into the adult 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:19.840 camp and I was like ten, so ten eleven, twelve, 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.520 ten eleven, twelve, and like yeah, the beginning of thirteen, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.119 I was, I was, I was doing the stand up comedy. Okay, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.800 he as a kid, and then that got me into 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.000 like some national commercials and a couple of tea Like 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.240 I start figuring out, like dang, what's a Coogan account? 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.039 And obviously being broke as hell. My parents were also 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.640 broke as hell, so that Cougan account got cooganed, that 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:47.200 got cooked. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.640 I thought that all that money was supposed to protect it. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:50.160 It is supposed to. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.320 Yeah, I didn't work because my dad had the same 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.120 name as me, so he just absolutely mangled wopped my account. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.400 By time, whatever I had built was whenever I had built, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.160 it was saram bag. So I did all that work, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.880 but it was still a good experience, you know what 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.480 I mean. So, yeah, there's a rap. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.400 Yeah it was it a shocker that you lost the 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:12.680 money or did you kind of know it was going 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:13.279 to disappear? 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.279 Well? I know, I knew. I knew that I came 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.440 from the type of appearance like I know what it was. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:20.960 You know what I'm saying. You know, when you grow 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.320 up and you like, I'm probably not go never see 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.480 this money. By the time I get to this money, now, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.800 I was hustling. I was already out in the streets 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.599 hustling young. So like even when I was done out 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.200 and I just was out there hustling dolo to the 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.560 point where by the time I was like fourteen fifteen, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.799 I was like making so much money just doing different 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.640 whatever I was doing. And then I was giving my 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.159 mom money, and like they were separate. So I get 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.720 my mom here, take some bands, and she like, how 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.599 you got bands in you? Fourteen? And I'm handing her money. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.520 So I was like it was a little weird because 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.520 I always was a hustler. I get straight to it. However, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.599 it go like ever since I was young, I was 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.000 selling candy or selling this. You know, I go to 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.960 ninety nine cent stores, go home, go to the school, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.440 sell sugar, Daddy, sell the sell that. So I was 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.320 always doing something. I was always hustling. I'm the hustler, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.320 Like you come get me when it's time to hustle. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.080 We don't figure it out. Thus, years later, obviously multiple companies, 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:25.040 and but but it came from you know, absolutely nothing. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.479 So but for like I I was doing good on 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.840 the hustle, and then I started getting kicked out of 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.159 the schools that I was hustling in, so then my 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:39.039 money started dropping back down. Whatever, And there I was, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.120 I was, I was. I was cooking the ninety nine 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.479 cent store. However that was happening different situations, said I 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.640 was just going viral when be in here just saying 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.720 I was doing anything. But we was doing all kinds 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.040 of stuff. Then I get the bread, I get the 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.360 can't do whatever situation was, and then we'd go run 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.359 it up, run it up, run it up. However that happened, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.320 and then and I'd be selling it. It to be all profits, 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.400 so I'd be making like one hundred something a day. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.839 Then I started baking. I'm like, damn, when I'm thinking 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.800 about all the things I'm talking about hustling, this shit 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.560 kind of self incriminated. When I started thinking about all 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.400 this stuff I was doing, liked, am I supposed to 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.080 break that down? Just know I was, because I was, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.080 I'm like, damgn. I started. I'm like, by the time 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.400 I'm done, y'all be like dangn We should probably cut 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.360 that out because I was doing all kinds of I 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.360 was hustling, I was running plays, I was in licks. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.280 I was doing all kinds of stuff. And we don't 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.400 want to go through all that. Don't even tell me aboutself, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.400 but I was. It was It was unusual. When I 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:41.640 got sixteen, I was out the house, like my mom. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.760 They just I was moving around so much. They was like, 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.360 you want to be grown. Shit hit the streets. So 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.320 I was sleeping in the car. I bought it myself 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.320 a car, started sleeping in a car. Like sixteen, I 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.000 was hustling nobody. My mom and them didn't even know 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:58.080 I had any talent besides the you know accomy. Yeah, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.360 because my sister, she was a singer and she like 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.120 the first American idol, and so she they was on 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.320 whatever she was on. I was just in the cut. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.720 Like I mean, obviously the way I look, I might 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.280 have cut have been a supermodel or something. But if 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.560 they wasn't thinking about that, it was like. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.240 Whatever the hell, Like your parents attention switched to her beause. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.640 Oh it's been I switched. It was always her. Yeah, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.640 she was always like the one and then she's super dope. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.800 That's my like that, that's my heart. She was always 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:30.200 like just super anointed singing wise, and so she always 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:34.600 had opportunities and different things going on. And yeah, I 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.160 just so should I start cooking? Oh yeah, you gotta 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.080 dump that in. But then we gotta get the season 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.719 and so anyway you gotta throw a little season and 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.600 so on there, because it ain't never been a black 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:46.560 dish without seasoning. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:53.600 No, no, I'm about to. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:09:00.079 Say, what is this we're talking about? Oh but what 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:00.720 was I saying? 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.160 You were talking about your sister was annoyed? 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:03.440 Oh? 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.800 Yeah, she was doing her thing right. She was, she 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.000 was winning, She had like she she was doing a 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.960 lot of she was doing amazing. She was winning. She 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.959 won like, I think of three hundred thousand dollars on 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:19.280 one show. And she's like her voice's next level, always been. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.320 And so they just was kind of on whatever she 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:22.839 was on. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.120 And it was just the two of y'all. As far 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.600 as family, I got four four siblings. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:34.160 Yeah, but that's yeah, yeah, that's the gang. But yeah, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.200 you know they ain't. Nobody thought I was doing They 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.360 thought I was the fuck up. They like this nigga 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.679 is failing every class you know what I'm saying. They 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.760 like outside in the streets, he just they just knocked 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.080 this nigga out. He just went to jail. And then 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.679 we heard these industry it's all kind of shit. I'm 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.000 doing all kind of stuff when I was younger, so 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.120 they like, dang, they like he he ain't dot. So 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.680 nobody had faith in me. But you know, you know, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.760 I was kind of like always very good or a 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.200 master at whatever it was I did. So, like the 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:11.800 crump movement was heavy, so we were like the pioneers. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.560 I was like the main one of the main people 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.480 out here who was in the mix like and kind 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:23.520 of created that frequency. So I was like we were dancing, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.880 and dancing got me in a lot of different rooms too, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.560 just because I was always so good like flipping, tumbling, 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.040 everything that just was super vicious at dancing. So you know, 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.440 coming from Tommy to Clown into the crump movement and 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.320 then it being you know, that's when b too, that's 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.680 when like you got served in that type of stuff. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.000 It was just the biggest thing on earth to know 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.480 how to crump, to know how to so I was 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.880 like in the front of that. So when I was 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.840 out in the streets, Da Dad, I'd be doing that. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.120 I'll be doing smack DVD rat battles. That was another thing. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.599 Like my bar game was always crazy. You know what 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.520 I'm saying. I was smack DVD rat battles. I was 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.839 running around with like Shug and them type of people 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.280 early when I was fifteen, you know what I mean. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.680 Run He had me battling it. I was in the 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.360 mix early, super early. And then you know, I just 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.280 start honing in on everything and I just took it 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.280 to the next level. I don't know it started there. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.880 And then one thing I've always done is been real 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.880 tapped in with God, like he saved me. I think 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.240 that's because I would have got mangled to a bunch 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.959 of them times. But He saved me so many times 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.640 just with I felt a lot of grace and favor 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.600 and situations because the people around me was getting molly wopped. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:37.400 I'm talking about I'm telling you they was getting molly wopped. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.559 So you're so sixteen seventeen. So you're sixteen seventeen. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.760 What is going on in the So you're doing the dancing. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.920 You went from comedy slash hustling to dancing. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.600 Yeah. I was always dancing even when I was a kid. 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.040 There and you're still struggling. You're still like homeless, kind 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:57.679 of sleeping in. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.600 Cars, yep, messed up, yep, running the doing a whole 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.080 bunch of nothing, going from couch to couch to car. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.960 And then my car broke down on me one night, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.120 actually because I was trying to stay warm. I was 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.240 sleeping the car and I was trying to you know, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.720 when you be sleeping the car and then you're like, damn, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.880 it's a cold ass night. You try and hit the 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.240 gas to like, I was so sleepy from whatever it 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.880 was I was doing that I had fell asleep up 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.559 under this little thing and I had hit the gas 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.520 and I was trying to warm up the car, and 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.440 I fell asleep with the car with my foot on 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.080 the gas, and I woke up in exhaust, like the 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.000 whole car was in exhaust fumes, and the engine was 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.160 just rocking left and right. Whoa, and I'm like dang, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.760 and somebody hit my window like boom boom, like yo, 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.960 get out the car, bro get out the car, and 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.640 so I jumped out. He like, bro, you just stayed 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.079 in that car. You was gonna die. The car was 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.280 going to explode. Are you crazy? Like what do you 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.960 got going up? And so that was a moment where 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.840 I ended up having to, you know, like call my 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.640 I think I called my dad and he lived in 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.760 San Diego the time, and I was like, yo, like, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.800 I know, I know, y'all ain't the ones. You know 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.280 what I'm saying. I know I don't mess with y'all 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.200 on this, that and the third like that, But I'm 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.880 gonna have to It's either that or I'm gonna app 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.160 I'm gonna like, I'm out the car now, so I'm 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.360 gonna be on the street. So it's either that or 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.880 I'm gonna be I'm about to have to go. I'm 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.240 about to have to go level up like I was going. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.040 It was gonna turn into something else. I was gonna 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.959 it was gonna go from the car to a next level. 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.720 I was gonna go to the next level ship. So 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.400 I'm like, I'm just telling you, like early why this 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.680 is gonna be. So he was like all right, man 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.600 like man like, my my wife is this and it's 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.880 just come whatever. And then I went to San Diego. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.760 And from when I got to San Diego, I stayed 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.360 there for a little bit like six months and then 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.880 I was like, yo, let's get back to it. So 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.800 I went back to it. But you know, I skipped 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.040 you know who I skipped. When I was in high school, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.319 I used to stay on my boy, Ruben Cannon's couch, 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.800 which is Nick Cannon's younger brother, and so I had 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.240 that was my best friend, Ruben and his brother Nick Cannon, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.440 and so he was getting all that. Like Nick would 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.240 just put them up because they came. And so they 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.000 had little apartment in the middle of Hollywood was run down, 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.960 but all of us, it was like seven of us 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.800 in one bedroom. It was all in there. But Ruben 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.640 really looked out for me when I was younger too, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.480 like just he was a solid. That was one of 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:32.520 my solid hummies. But Ruben Cannon, Ruben Cannon is one 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.240 of the ones I can't. I don't know about everybody else, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:36.800 but Ruben that's. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.000 One of the ones. But yeah, one of my favorites 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.840 by the way, personally, Yeah. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.560 He's the one that's my brother, like for him different. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.800 So like you know, I always like super appreciated when 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.360 anybody did anything for me, because nobody did nothing for me. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.400 So we can, you know, let me go and you 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.680 gotta get to it. I don't know if y'all can 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.400 see this, but you gotta throw that on there. It 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.280 ain't even you gotta get it well because that's where 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.960 the flavors start acting different, because you know, when you 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.800 get to cooking stuff, it be I'm just telling you 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.560 how my ghetto care thro I was doing something else. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.640 It was a different conversation. What was what was we 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:12.280 said you. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.160 Was talking about before you ended up in San Diego. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:16.480 You was staying with Reuben. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.760 Yeah, all was staying with Ruby Yep, yep, yep as 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.760 a young and I was. I was messed up early. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.960 So he was looking at when I was like fourteen. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.160 How did y'all know each other? You guys? Wood? Okay? 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.640 Yeah, Hollywood High and so you know, I went to 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.440 performing arts schools because my mom and them. That's one 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.680 thing I could be thankful for my mom and then 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.520 put me in performing arts schools, which opened me up 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:45.120 to plays, musicals, choir classes. So like most niggas in 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.080 the hoods going to school revelopment, they choir class was 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.680 a fade in the bathroom. My my, I'm just saying 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.280 like that's where niggas day was you going to door. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:55.760 See you going to Chris, Are you going to you 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.680 know what I'm saying, different joints. I was like the Hamilton's, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.760 the Hollywoods. It was still wicked. We'd be getting it. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.160 It'd be riots and aughty, we'd be getting in this. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.600 But at the same time, I was like, it was 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.760 weird because you be in choir class with other gang 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.680 members and others, you know, and we in quire classes 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.720 quare clabs, but we really creating food blown everything, Like 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.480 it's crazy because creation is creation for what you chose 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.760 to do. If you're a creator and you next level, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.000 then you're gonna create on that level. So and we're 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.040 always in competition. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.840 So so when you're in these classes with other gang 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.440 members or rival gangs. Everybody was getting along during choir 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:35.920 and all that. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.520 Yeah, I mean because in school, it's like it's school, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.080 you know what I mean. You get into situations and 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.720 you know, back then it was kind of like there 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.239 was a green light on the Blacks from the eighteens 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.400 at the time, so it was all kind of stuff 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.160 going on. So we kind of was sticking together and 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.400 everybody was just in the mix. It was because it 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.200 was all kind of it was that's a long story, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.760 but anyway, you know, it was it was a lot. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.640 It was a lot going on. It was a lot 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.840 of war work, but in terms of school, like dance, 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.840 like choir, like different things that we was doing. Yeah, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.280 that was that was. Yeah, we was. We was in 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.320 there going viral. Okay, yeah, we was in that going viral. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.639 I'm gonna we almost done with this. Ain't gonna lie Okay, 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:15.560 they ain't never done. 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.439 That's good because I'm hungry. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:18.840 No, it's actually crazy. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:24.040 Now you come back from San Diego. Yep, fast tracking 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:25.920 now back to so you go back from San Diego. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:27.520 You're trying to figure out, well, where did you get 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:28.000 rid of? Yeah? 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:28.760 I'm like where is that? 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.160 What? Yeah? I told you figure. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.679 I love hearing the story because you have these extra 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.199 I want to say, adjectives. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:36.000 Is that the right word? 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:41.879 Yeah? Okay, yeah, because it's action packed. You know what 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.760 I'm saying. I was going through a lot, like I 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.119 didn't you know when you when you when you coming 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.960 from nothing. And this is why I always am with 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.640 people who came from nothing, because we understand each other 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.720 on a level that's just a little different. But I 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.920 also running corporate of the highest level. But I also 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.720 run in the lowest level because at the end of 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.720 the day, it's like when you come from having no 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.359 other option, it's serious. Yeah, I know, you know what 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.200 I'm saying. It's like, just because somebody's in a higher 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.280 neighborhood don't mean that they don't got no option but 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.400 to run the play either. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.840 That's why you got white collar crimes, and that's why 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.720 you got other Don't think it's just all about oh, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.040 because he got a rag on, he hard like, No, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.879 it's a lot of people come from nothing, even to 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:32.840 Brazil favelas, to wherever you go. It's hoods, it's motherfuckers 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.840 that's willing to go to the roof wherever you go. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.679 So I understood that early and I always related to 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.040 whoever was should like what you want. But the smart hustlers, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:47.000 I hate dumb hustlers. I never hustled dumb. I would 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:47.679 have been locked up. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.760 Can you break down a dumb hustler for me? 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.000 Yeah, A dumb hustler is A dumb hustler is A 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:01.840 dumb hustler is basically somebody who is always just hustling backwards. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.160 Like if you in and out of jail all day, 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.920 you're hustling backwards, like your hustle is not planned out, 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.159 Like where's your execution? Every last every last person around 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:16.640 me been to prison, been to this, been to that, right, 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.880 every last person around me been to prison like all 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.400 my family, my brother did thirteen years, my other brother. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.119 Everybody's been. But at the end of the day, you 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.320 know what I'm saying, it's about like dang, like they 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.159 all got the same story, Like damn, I should have 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.080 did that different. So if you're going to continue to 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:35.840 do the same thing over and over and over and 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.640 over and over, I need to drain this. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:40.600 Ship. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.239 Here. We're gonna figure out this one. 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:44.919 We have. We have a way to drain it can well. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.880 Cut no, but no, we don't even need to. I'm 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:47.679 not just this guy to. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.520 Be keen did with what if that splash? Is that 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:50.560 gonna splash that you? 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.880 Nah? Hell no, I'm doing drinking similarly. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.480