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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guest. Grammy Award winning producer sold over fifty million records, is.

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Speaker 2: Probably over records.

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Speaker 1: So rock Star producer rock Star is in the building.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 1: And self made? Self made, self made, self made to

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Speaker 1: the max, to the max slept on floors. I've heard,

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Speaker 1: I've heard the rumors. I'm so excited to have you

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Speaker 1: in the building. And you're gonna have to feed me,

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Speaker 1: of course, so what do you what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: feed me?

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Speaker 3: We're doing well my broke dish. Really this should be

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Speaker 3: Eating while uh broke as hell if you want to

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Speaker 3: add that as hell, because I was the ass hell part.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. But right now, this dish ray here is

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Speaker 3: called ghetto cast role and it was the chicken top

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Speaker 3: ramen mixed in with a turkey burger burger that I

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Speaker 3: seasoned up, chopped up, put into the situation, mixed up

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Speaker 3: and just changed the world with that guy me I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about that had me full for you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about the whole day that pretty much was it

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Speaker 3: to the point where people just started requesting, let me

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Speaker 3: get some ghetto.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh you really named it that. That was like

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Speaker 1: the coin name that you gave it back. I've never

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Speaker 1: had ghetto cast role. I'm very I'm a hater of

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Speaker 1: Ramen because we've taped over one hundred and twenty episodes

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Speaker 1: and everybody, and I say even people be like I

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Speaker 1: thought she hated ram I'm like, I can only block

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Speaker 1: Ramen so much in a broke show.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But when I see a Ramen with a flair, I

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Speaker 1: really believe that the individual was probably, like you said,

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Speaker 1: broke as hell. Yeah, you know, you had it so

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Speaker 1: many times that you had to up it. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: start off popping it off. And while you're in this

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Speaker 1: kitchen cooking, I want you to take me back to

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Speaker 1: what was going on when you was broke as hell?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I mean there's just so many years of

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Speaker 3: being broke as hell. Like, which part of being broke

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Speaker 3: as hell did you want to have the conversation about,

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Speaker 3: because you know, I mean, I come from absolutely nothing,

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Speaker 3: so I was broke as hell the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Where are you from originally?

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Speaker 3: So I'm from like Los Angeles of course. So California.

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Speaker 3: But I've lived all over South Central, all over Inglewood,

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Speaker 3: all the trash this I'm like, yeah, but first you

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Speaker 3: gotta like you gotta. If you don't do that, it

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Speaker 3: don't even taste the same. But we're gonna put that

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Speaker 3: over there, because that's what that's gonna be at. I

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Speaker 3: lived all over South Central, Inglewood and all over LA

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Speaker 3: everywhere in La all you know what I mean, and

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Speaker 3: then also all over the valley too, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. So yeah, yeah until that. My parents were

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Speaker 3: married until I was about twelve and then they split.

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Speaker 3: So right when I turned into a teenager and started

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Speaker 3: going outside, it was yeah, I was dolo, okay.

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Speaker 2: And then did you also always know you were going

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Speaker 2: to get into music?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Nah?

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Speaker 3: Not really. I thought I was going to be an actor,

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Speaker 3: which I ended up being on love and hip hop

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Speaker 3: and different stuff. It's kind of a version of acting.

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Speaker 3: But I started off, you know, coming out, you know,

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Speaker 3: and like my my, my mom put me into acting

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Speaker 3: and I was the stand up comedy champion at Lave

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Speaker 3: Factory for like three years with Jamie Massada. So Jamie Masada,

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Speaker 3: which was the left he put me in and I

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Speaker 3: was young, but I was so good that him, Paul

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Speaker 3: Rodriguez and all of them put me into the adult

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Speaker 3: camp and I was like ten, so ten eleven, twelve,

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Speaker 3: ten eleven, twelve, and like yeah, the beginning of thirteen,

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Speaker 3: I was, I was, I was doing the stand up comedy. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he as a kid, and then that got me into

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Speaker 3: like some national commercials and a couple of tea Like

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Speaker 3: I start figuring out, like dang, what's a Coogan account?

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Speaker 3: And obviously being broke as hell. My parents were also

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Speaker 3: broke as hell, so that Cougan account got cooganed, that

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Speaker 2: I thought that all that money was supposed to protect it.

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Speaker 2: It is supposed to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't work because my dad had the same

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Speaker 3: name as me, so he just absolutely mangled wopped my account.

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Speaker 3: By time, whatever I had built was whenever I had built,

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Speaker 3: it was saram bag. So I did all that work,

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Speaker 3: but it was still a good experience, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. So, yeah, there's a rap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was it a shocker that you lost the

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Speaker 2: to disappear?

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Speaker 3: Well? I know, I knew. I knew that I came

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Speaker 3: from the type of appearance like I know what it was.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know, when you grow

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Speaker 3: up and you like, I'm probably not go never see

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Speaker 3: this money. By the time I get to this money, now,

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Speaker 3: I was hustling. I was already out in the streets

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Speaker 3: hustling young. So like even when I was done out

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Speaker 3: and I just was out there hustling dolo to the

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Speaker 3: point where by the time I was like fourteen fifteen,

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Speaker 3: I was like making so much money just doing different

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Speaker 3: whatever I was doing. And then I was giving my

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Speaker 3: mom money, and like they were separate. So I get

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Speaker 3: my mom here, take some bands, and she like, how

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Speaker 3: you got bands in you? Fourteen? And I'm handing her money.

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Speaker 3: So I was like it was a little weird because

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Speaker 3: I always was a hustler. I get straight to it. However,

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Speaker 3: it go like ever since I was young, I was

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Speaker 3: selling candy or selling this. You know, I go to

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Speaker 3: ninety nine cent stores, go home, go to the school,

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Speaker 3: sell sugar, Daddy, sell the sell that. So I was

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Speaker 3: always doing something. I was always hustling. I'm the hustler,

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Speaker 3: Like you come get me when it's time to hustle.

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Speaker 3: We don't figure it out. Thus, years later, obviously multiple companies,

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Speaker 3: and but but it came from you know, absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 3: So but for like I I was doing good on

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Speaker 3: the schools that I was hustling in, so then my

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Speaker 3: money started dropping back down. Whatever, And there I was,

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Speaker 3: I was, I was. I was cooking the ninety nine

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Speaker 3: cent store. However that was happening different situations, said I

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Speaker 3: was just going viral when be in here just saying

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Speaker 3: I was doing anything. But we was doing all kinds

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Speaker 3: of stuff. Then I get the bread, I get the

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Speaker 3: can't do whatever situation was, and then we'd go run

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Speaker 3: it up, run it up, run it up. However that happened,

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Speaker 3: and then and I'd be selling it. It to be all profits,

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Speaker 3: so I'd be making like one hundred something a day.

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Speaker 3: Then I started baking. I'm like, damn, when I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: about all the things I'm talking about hustling, this shit

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Speaker 3: kind of self incriminated. When I started thinking about all

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Speaker 3: this stuff I was doing, liked, am I supposed to

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Speaker 3: break that down? Just know I was, because I was,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, damgn. I started. I'm like, by the time

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Speaker 3: I'm done, y'all be like dangn We should probably cut

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Speaker 3: that out because I was doing all kinds of I

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Speaker 3: was hustling, I was running plays, I was in licks.

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Speaker 3: I was doing all kinds of stuff. And we don't

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Speaker 3: want to go through all that. Don't even tell me aboutself,

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Speaker 3: but I was. It was It was unusual. When I

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Speaker 3: got sixteen, I was out the house, like my mom.

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Speaker 3: They just I was moving around so much. They was like,

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Speaker 3: you want to be grown. Shit hit the streets. So

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Speaker 3: I was sleeping in the car. I bought it myself

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Speaker 3: a car, started sleeping in a car. Like sixteen, I

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Speaker 3: was hustling nobody. My mom and them didn't even know

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Speaker 3: I had any talent besides the you know accomy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because my sister, she was a singer and she like

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Speaker 3: the first American idol, and so she they was on

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Speaker 3: whatever she was on. I was just in the cut.

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, obviously the way I look, I might

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Speaker 3: have cut have been a supermodel or something. But if

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Speaker 3: they wasn't thinking about that, it was like.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the hell, Like your parents attention switched to her beause.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's been I switched. It was always her. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she was always like the one and then she's super dope.

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Speaker 3: That's my like that, that's my heart. She was always

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Speaker 3: just so should I start cooking? Oh yeah, you gotta

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Speaker 3: dump that in. But then we gotta get the season

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Speaker 3: and so anyway you gotta throw a little season and

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Speaker 3: so on there, because it ain't never been a black

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Speaker 3: dish without seasoning.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm about to.

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Speaker 3: Say, what is this we're talking about? Oh but what

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Speaker 2: You were talking about your sister was annoyed?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was doing her thing right. She was, she

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Speaker 3: was winning, She had like she she was doing a

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Speaker 3: lot of she was doing amazing. She was winning. She

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Speaker 3: won like, I think of three hundred thousand dollars on

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Speaker 3: And so they just was kind of on whatever she

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Speaker 2: And it was just the two of y'all. As far

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's yeah, yeah, that's the gang. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know they ain't. Nobody thought I was doing They

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Speaker 3: we heard these industry it's all kind of shit. I'm

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Speaker 3: doing all kind of stuff when I was younger, so

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Speaker 3: nobody had faith in me. But you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: I was kind of like always very good or a

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Speaker 3: crump movement was heavy, so we were like the pioneers.

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Speaker 3: just because I was always so good like flipping, tumbling,

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Speaker 3: It was just the biggest thing on earth to know

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Speaker 3: out in the streets, Da Dad, I'd be doing that.

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Speaker 3: I'll be doing smack DVD rat battles. That was another thing.

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Speaker 3: Like my bar game was always crazy. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I was smack DVD rat battles. I was

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Speaker 3: early when I was fifteen, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Run He had me battling it. I was in the

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Speaker 3: And then one thing I've always done is been real

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Speaker 3: He's the one that's my brother, like for him different.

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Speaker 3: So we can, you know, let me go and you

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Speaker 1: Was talking about before you ended up in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: You was staying with Reuben.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all was staying with Ruby Yep, yep, yep as

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Speaker 3: So he was looking at when I was like fourteen.

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Speaker 2: How did y'all know each other? You guys? Wood? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hollywood High and so you know, I went to

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Speaker 3: See you going to Chris, Are you going to you

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Speaker 3: It'd be riots and aughty, we'd be getting in this.

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Speaker 1: So so when you're in these classes with other gang

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because in school, it's like it's school,

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Speaker 3: It was a lot going on. It was a lot

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Speaker 3: like choir, like different things that we was doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna we almost done with this. Ain't gonna lie Okay,

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Speaker 3: they ain't never done.

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Speaker 2: That's good because I'm hungry.

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Speaker 3: No, it's actually crazy.

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Speaker 1: Now you come back from San Diego. Yep, fast tracking

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Speaker 3: You're trying to figure out, well, where did you get

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Speaker 2: I'm like where is that?

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Speaker 3: What? Yeah? I told you figure.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing the story because you have these extra

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Speaker 2: Is that the right word?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, yeah, because it's action packed. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I was going through a lot, like I

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Speaker 3: That's why you got white collar crimes, and that's why

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Speaker 3: it's a lot of people come from nothing, even to

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Speaker 3: So I understood that early and I always related to

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Speaker 3: I hate dumb hustlers. I never hustled dumb. I would

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Speaker 2: Can you break down a dumb hustler for me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A dumb hustler is A dumb hustler is A

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Speaker 3: dumb hustler is basically somebody who is always just hustling backwards.

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Speaker 3: Like if you in and out of jail all day,

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Speaker 3: Like where's your execution? Every last every last person around

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Speaker 3: my family, my brother did thirteen years, my other brother.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's been. But at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 3: over and over, I need to drain this.

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Speaker 2: Ship.

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Speaker 3: Here. We're gonna figure out this one.

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Speaker 2: We have. We have a way to drain it can well.

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Speaker 3: Cut no, but no, we don't even need to. I'm

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Speaker 2: Be keen did with what if that splash? Is that

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Speaker 2: gonna splash that you?

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Speaker 3: Nah? Hell no, I'm doing drinking similarly.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know you self made right.

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Speaker 3: There right there, right there?

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Speaker 2: We don't real quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't worried about that, but you know this

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Speaker 2: But you didn't put the seasonings in there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's about to Okay, let's.

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Speaker 2: Not micro manage your cooking.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I ford

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Speaker 3: it out because I don't be liking the season and to.

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Speaker 2: Be I'm talking about yeah, yeah, so that's what I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kind of what's his name it was?

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Speaker 3: When you drop that in there, I should have had

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Speaker 2: You needed help in the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: Me, Hell no, I don't need no help. I'll shoot me.

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Speaker 3: I ain't. Look, I'll tell you called me. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: should have went to the man. I should have went

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Speaker 3: to culinary art school. Just your whole it's all cut

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Speaker 2: See I envisioned ghetto cast roles to be something.

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Speaker 3: Different, did you? This is the positive It looks.

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Speaker 2: It looks really fancy.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you, I used to cut up the

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Speaker 3: turkey burger and throw this into that. If you eat

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Speaker 3: rock did that? And then don't be using my recipe

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Speaker 3: they're going to be they're going to be judging your

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Speaker 3: talking about what had me. You know what I'm saying,

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00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 3: I've been doing this as niggas were drinking similar looks. Yeah, yes,

435
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. And then for me, I'm a spice

436
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 3: idter threw some mohat sauce on top and did it up.

437
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: Does it look this plated like this?

438
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 3: This? Well?

439
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 2: Does what look like does whenever you did it? Did

440
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: it look like this when you would play it?

441
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah I cut it up sometimes, but yeah,

442
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 3: does it look well? It looked fancy.

443
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: It looked kind fancy.

444
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 3: If you I.

445
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: Think if you added like a little bit of greenery

446
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: or vegetable to it would have looked really fast.

447
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: Like you're really trying to break down my looks a little.

448
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: It looks nice. Okay, it's kind of fun. I haven't

449
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: sold millions of records. You know what I'm saying.

450
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 3: You never know. For me, this is listen, this is

451
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 3: doing something. You gotta break down to what's his name

452
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 3: into the West that you ain't got a knife if

453
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: you break down a little.

454
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: Piece Wait a minute, hold up, yeah, we need a

455
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: knife for your cooking.

456
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: Oh my Mama little, it's kind of crazy. I didn't

457
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 3: want to do too much, but I didn't want to

458
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: do too little. You know what I'm saying. When you

459
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 3: do that, and you do that with that, and you

460
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 3: just throw a little turkey up in there.

461
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: Look at it. I love that.

462
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like something different because we didn't You didn't

463
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 3: have time to get all the pasta and this and

464
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: that and the third this was already its own made pasta.

465
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: She was going on, m it's actually kind of crazy, right, it's.

466
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: Good and you know what you're using that meat really well.

467
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to explain, I was trying to tell

468
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: I don't even be like, I don't even want to

469
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: tell nobody when I started telling people.

470
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: Stuffy little soft, I don't like that, but I ain't

471
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: gonna lie.

472
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,239
Speaker 3: I was talking too much. You seasoned that meat like

473
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: something's going on.

474
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: You seasoned it. What I'm trying to that it's good hunt.

475
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to explain there, trying to tell.

476
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: You it's th season. I'm telling you this right here.

477
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: You was eating this after you did whatever you did

478
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 3: and came back to this. That's what I'm trying to

479
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: tell you thought you went to Ruth Cress.

480
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. You seasoned very well.

481
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: That's what I'm telling you. You thought I went to

482
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: you thought you went to Ruth Chris, but you went

483
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: to Rocks Crest. I don't know that that was crazy.

484
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie that was nuts. But the punchline

485
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 3: is the punch you are ol man. Yeah, I just

486
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: came from eating That was the problem. To eat my

487
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: whole wasn't not right now, it's gonna be unusual.

488
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: I just what did you eat before this?

489
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: I just came from ruth Crest. We just came from

490
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: Ruth Christ That's the crazy part. I was like, damn,

491
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: let's just go get some steak into and then it

492
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: Now I got steak and all kind of his bomb. No, huh,

493
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I know my own ship. That's what

494
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm mad. I'm not that hungry because it's

495
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: been going too far.

496
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: Is that you went from Ruth Chris to Eating this.

497
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: That's what I'm screaming. But it's the same program. Actually,

498
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: I like mine better. Really, man, what when I get

499
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: to season some of that stuff be bland. I'll be

500
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: paying five hundred dollars for something bland, just for the look.

501
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: You know what you're missing out because this.

502
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: This turkey burger is kind of doing something.

503
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: It's doing something like like I feel better what I'm saying.

504
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: And then this one right here is even more seasons

505
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: than that one. That's the crazy because I could smell it.

506
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: I know what happened off the way that the edges

507
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: is cout. I'm like, oh, like if I had to pick,

508
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: and then I had to pick for myself, I had

509
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: to pick.

510
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: That one, right, Maybe the other side is like that.

511
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: No, get a corner, Get a corner of that, and

512
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: see what happens if you.

513
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Get that right already?

514
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: Be like, what is that corner?

515
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: This one looks more juicy.

516
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm telling you you. I didn't even mean

517
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: to do you like that, but I thought I was

518
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: gonna be able to get all stuffed. Yep mm hmm. Yeah,

519
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: that's what I'm yelling. That's what I'm telling you. Something

520
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: else going on over here anyway.

521
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: You know what.

522
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 3: You can That's what I'm explaining. I'm gonna put together

523
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: when I can put together. When I can put it together.

524
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: What was the last time you had this I.

525
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: Ain't made this in probably fifteen years.

526
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: Fifteen years.

527
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 3: This was like, this was a struggle meal.

528
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: If we left up at seventy.

529
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen y all right, we're getting.

530
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: Close to you becoming rich.

531
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, mam, we're getting there somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I touched

532
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: my first million at like twenty one. Oh am, I

533
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: we're here now, okay, yeah, but I touched my first

534
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 3: million like twenty one.

535
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm not skipping steps because your story is fun. So

536
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: seventeen yep, you moved from San Diego.

537
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm back and I'm back on the block. I'm

538
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: back around here and I'm figuring it out pretty much.

539
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: So like eighteen, I had eighteen, I had bumped into

540
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: an investor. First of all, I was I was writing,

541
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: like I was battle rapping and doing all that, and

542
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: I was so popular with dance and I was getting

543
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: a lot of popularity with dance in my space in

544
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 3: San Diego. I had dropped the record called bat Box

545
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: on my space, and when I tell you, it was

546
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: the most popular. So I had like a million something blades.

547
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: It was the most popular song. And I said, dang,

548
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: these people really like my music. This is crazy, And

549
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: so I was getting so much, not that people were

550
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 3: dming me like yo, bro, that's fire, Like yo, bro,

551
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: what's up? So basically this investor had DM me like yo,

552
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: I got no Actually sorry, Mike Post. You know Mike

553
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: Post he created Law and Order, the Law and Order Tell,

554
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: the Lawn Order theme song, and all the music for

555
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 3: Law and Order. He gets paid every three seconds. He's ridiculous.

556
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: So so Mike Post is like, yo, like my other

557
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: boy was actually at Mike's studio. He's like, yo, you

558
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: should sit down on him. So I came over there.

559
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: They gave me like like it was like yo, go ahead,

560
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: like play what you got? I played it. I did

561
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: like a whole performance thing, Da da da, and it

562
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: was like yo, like you're the next There was no

563
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: Drake obviously, there was just maybe a Chris, but there

564
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: was no rapping, singing dance. Wasn't they like yo, like

565
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: you next up? Like this is crazy, like what you need?

566
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: Matter of fact. So he had an SSL studio with

567
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: like other rooms. He was like listen, anytime, use my studio.

568
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: You're good. So for me going, you know, in everybody

569
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: closet to record you know what I'm saying. The bathrooms

570
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: and I'm recording the most random places in the hood,

571
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: just like wherever you got a mic, set it up. Like,

572
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: so going from there to an SSL recording studio was

573
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: a It just was a different frequency. So I'm like,

574
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: because of my environment, I have to now adapt to

575
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: this level of music. So that SSL made me change

576
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: the way I approached records because I'm like, let me

577
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: think a little harder now, you know what I'm saying.

578
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: So I'm doing that, this and the third, and I'm

579
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: writing crazy records and I'm rapping. I'm doing all this stuff.

580
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: I was with this dude in Kira from London, which

581
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: is which was my main producer. I actually assigned a

582
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: production deal with him and Kira early was like he

583
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: was a family friend from from my mom from way back,

584
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: but he's from London, so his sound was European. He

585
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: had like done Kylie Minogue and all these other people,

586
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: so he was like, yo, rock, this is how we

587
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: gonna approach it. It was always like some big sound

588
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: in European, worldwide stuff. And then I'm like okay, and

589
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: then he was like, Yo, there's this group called Lexington Bridge.

590
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: The're number one in Germany. I'm gonna put you on

591
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: there with them. So he put me in with this

592
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: group and I ended up doing a verse and ended

593
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: up having a number one record in Germany with these.

594
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Kids, You're doing a versus and rapping right, rapping, And

595
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: I was like eighteen.

596
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: So I'm like, dang, I'm sitting there and I'm going crazy.

597
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is nuts. This is the first time

598
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: I ever But I didn't know what that meant. I

599
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: just like that. And then so from there.

600
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: Like now when you have the number one record, are

601
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: you making money or you just know that you have

602
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: I just know.

603
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: I got number on raere. I didn't even know what

604
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: it means.

605
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: To have a number one record.

606
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm like nineteen right there in eighteen ninety. So then

607
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: Tim and Bob, right, you know Tim and Bob. Tim

608
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: and Bob like legendary producers like Jimmy jam and Terry

609
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: Lewis like super like my real film now my next

610
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: level brothers. These families different, But back then there was

611
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: Tim and Bob. They created Bobby Volentino that they voice

612
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: the me in Evolution and brought out to me in

613
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: case and everybody from beyond they had it was like everything.

614
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: So Dad came around and they were using my sister

615
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: actually to do back all Jennifer Lopez's backgrounds at the time,

616
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: and so one day, you know, my sister always was

617
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: like my sister loved me, so she's always like yo,

618
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: like I'm over here, da da da. And I came

619
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: to drop her off something at the studio and she's like, oh,

620
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: this is my brother. And they're like, damn, bro, you

621
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: look kind of dope. You look out like a look

622
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: like what you do? And I'm like, yo, rap da

623
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: da da, And so I pressed play on something. They like,

624
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: what the yo, man, what's up with here? So Tim

625
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: and Bob set up a session. I actually got in

626
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: the booth and while I was in the booth, he's like, yo,

627
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: can you test the mic because Bobby Valentino for the

628
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: comminges the mic. And so I started like singing or whatever,

629
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: just to try and get whatever frequency they were trying

630
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: to go. What even thinking about it? They was like, bro,

631
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: your voice is dope. What the do you know how

632
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: to write? So they forced me into writing like records.

633
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: It was weird like at the time, like yo, just

634
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: start yo, just start trying to write some stuff. And

635
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: like two or three sessions later, I had already wrote

636
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: like a hit and they're like, dude, this is like

637
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: you're a writer, you're a singer, You're a and I'm like, dang,

638
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: I just was transitioning into thing. I was morphing in

639
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: the difference right away. I'm like, damn, am I singer?

640
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: Am I writer? Because I was always rapping, battle rapping,

641
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: hardcore always, and then so my pin was so crazy.

642
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: It was like you put melodies over your pen, you're

643
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: gonna be vicious. And so my sister was always a singer,

644
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: so melodies was easy for me. So I'm like okay.

645
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: And so Tony Mercedes, who signed TolC, had came one

646
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: day and brought his artists and was like, yo, I

647
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: got this artist. She's big in Australia. Write her a song.

648
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: And I wrote her a song on the spot as

649
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: a smash, and he gave me a check. The next day.

650
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: It was like here, how much was the check?

651
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: Seventy five hundred dollars and I'm like like, hold on,

652
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: but he gave me the check. You're like just sign

653
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: this and I'm like all right, well I'm signing, and

654
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: it gave me seventy five dollars. I'm like, so one

655
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: of them, who am I giving this to? He like

656
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: this for you for writing a song every record. I

657
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: was trying to get you ten, but they only agreed that.

658
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, so I got seventy five. Oh yeah, it's over.

659
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: I know that.

660
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: They're done. Everybody's done. Everybody's done. Nobody is going to

661
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: breathe again with the writing. Y'all are done. They're handing

662
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: out checks for writing hits. Everybody's done. All y'all are good.

663
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: Don't even don't even pick up the pen no more

664
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: unless you're extravagant. So from that day on, when I

665
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: see that check, and I didn't have to do no gags,

666
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: I have to do nothing. I have to hit no lick,

667
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: I'd have to do no nothing. I'd have to jump

668
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: through no windows, nothing, do no flock. I had to

669
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: sell nothing. I was, I said, he just handed me

670
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: this and all cash, and I don't have to do nothing.

671
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: And I just had to do that. No, my mama,

672
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: I was, Oh my god, I ain't look and as you.

673
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: And obviously ever since then it got wicked, it got serious,

674
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: and so I just started just becoming a guillotine with

675
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: the pen, like I'm just sharp I'm just like everybody

676
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: getting diced. So from then I just start cataloging. Oh y'all,

677
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: hold on, y'all be buying records after that's all y'all want.

678
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: So now I'm sitting there and then I'm finding friends.

679
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: You know what I sing? Jump in the booth, sing

680
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: what I'm singing? You know how to right? So then

681
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: the engineers ain't moving fast enough for me, so I'm like, damn,

682
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: I can't find an engineer. So now I'm in the

683
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: back trying to figure out how the engineer. Okay, let

684
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: me see how to record myself so I ain't got

685
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: to worry about these things. So I figure it out.

686
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: After some months, I put in hours and hours, and

687
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: every day I'm trying to figure it out, and I'm

688
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: going through, how do I tweet this? Put this EQ?

689
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: What's this? I'm looking up? So I'm asking the engineers.

690
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: They don't even want to rock. I'm in the middle

691
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: of Okay, how do I put it a EQ on this?

692
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: How do I make this sound better? How do I

693
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: do this? So I'm getting the breakdown. It's crazy. I'm

694
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: getting a breakdown. I'm like, damn, okay, cool. So from

695
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: there now I'm now all the engineer a little bit.

696
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 3: So then I'm sitting there and I'm writing. I'm like, damn,

697
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: where the producers at. Ain't these niggas ain't not giving

698
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: me enough material. I'm writing faster than the producers. You

699
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. For real. I'm like, I'm now

700
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm cooking because my hustle. They gave me a check.

701
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: It's done. I'm not gonna stop until i'm up. If

702
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: I could stack these checks up to where i could

703
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: be up all the way up and just be up

704
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: man o my mom, and You're never gonna see nobody.

705
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: It's done. So I'm out writing every day. I'm waking morning, noon,

706
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: and night. I'm writing. And so now I'm like, okay, cool,

707
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't find any producers, but garage

708
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: man logic. I'm like, shop, let me figure it out.

709
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: So now I'm on garage man making whack beats. I'm

710
00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: talking about super whack. I'm like boom. I'm like, oh,

711
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: I can see what a mix on it. They gotta

712
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: be crazy, It's all right, oh running back. So niggas

713
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: is walking in and I'm pressing play and the other

714
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 3: niggas in. They're like, yeah, we see, we can see,

715
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: we can see kind of what's he doing? Right? Hey?

716
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: And then Tim and Bob and all them and and

717
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: Tricky Stewart and all that, they coming in and they

718
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: pressing play on crazy. I'm like, damn, why shit is what?

719
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: So now I'm like damn, Like hold on. So I'm

720
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 3: now I got to sit here every day and figure

721
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: out how to produce, and I'm making whack ass beats

722
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 3: until finally i make a beat that's hot. Then I'm like, oh,

723
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 3: I'm for real. Hey, look I'm telling you now I'm

724
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: for real. I'm somebody else.

725
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: Now it's hlarious.

726
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: Man. I I'm doing. I'm doing all kind of I

727
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: don't even know how to play, but I'm trying. I'm

728
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: figuring it out. What this note? Go to this note? Okay?

729
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: What about this note? That don't sound right? So now

730
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: I'm playing everything my ear I'm creeping. So now I'm

731
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: getting into it now. So now I'm like, okay, you

732
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: know what, I'm selling records, But the records, it's now

733
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: about the networking. You gotta run around and figure out

734
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: how to get in people's faces. Like I got records

735
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: over here, I got enough of a catalog. I probably

736
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: made probably fifty sixty songs now and I'm able to

737
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: press play.

738
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: But like he's hearing it, you didn't try to go

739
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: back to first due that roature to check for the

740
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: seventy five.

741
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: That was one check. He not finna just cut me.

742
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: He did cut me a couple more checks, but he

743
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: don't got an undern amount of checks. He got other

744
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: producers that's bigger than me. Like he just gave me

745
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: a Like Tony Mercedi's just looked out. He just looked out,

746
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: like that's you know what you're young, Go ahead, I'll

747
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: rock with you. And I did, and I showed him

748
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 3: prove cut me to check. And Tony still my guy

749
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: to this day. But he created TLC. Like he's saying,

750
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: he was one of the early executives. So he always

751
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: seen you know, we make no scrubs and stuff. You

752
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 3: see you can see through like this dude, is he something?

753
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: He got something so real? An R is always recognized

754
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: like greatness in me when they've seen whatever was the

755
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: hungry whatever it was. So so he just looked out.

756
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: But I went to trying to find other Tony Mercedes,

757
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: who else got it? Yeah, so I was hustling and then,

758
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: like I said, your network is your network. So at

759
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: the time, I only knew a couple of people, and

760
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm trying to figure out how to get

761
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: further than where I'm at. So I'm like, dang, like,

762
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: how do I get Maybe I need a manager. I

763
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: need somebody. Yeah, because this ain't gonna work. I need somebody.

764
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: So then I linked up with Chris Lighty.

765
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm saying.

766
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: No, Rather Chris Lighty Chris Light's most legendary manager ever.

767
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: He created fifty cent did divide him in water deal.

768
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: He's Violate. He created a company called Violator. No he's dead.

769
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah they died. No, No, it's all good. But that's

770
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: my that was my that was my big bro. So

771
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: he his situation was different because he created Violator, which

772
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: he signed Buster to and fifty And that's where Mona

773
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: Scott came from. And that's where all of them came.

774
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: She worked for Violator, all of them. He had a

775
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: hub of the Big Diddy. All of them was under Violator.

776
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: Violator was the thing, Yo gotty, all of them was.

777
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: When I got to Violator, they had already been them

778
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: but yo, gotty was running around with Mike Lighty, and

779
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: so Chris Lighty, Mike Lighty, Dave Lighty, Dave Lighty brought me. Yeah,

780
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: they're all Lighties, but Dave Lighty brought me to Chris

781
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: Lighty and Chris Lighty. When he see me, he was like,

782
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: because at that point in time, I had walked in

783
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: there and was like, what's up, bro, Yeah, I'm the greatest.

784
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 3: I'm the greatest that ever lived. And he was like, what, who?

785
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: I ain't even ever heard of you? Bro with you?

786
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: And so he like, I said, who's your favorite rapper?

787
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: He's telling me. I said, but I'm way better than them.

788
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying? I'm way better than

789
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: your favorite? He like, bro, God, hold on. He calls

790
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: Chris Lady, everybody in the room, the whole office, and

791
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: he goes, Okay, we're gonna see what you're into. He's like,

792
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: he's laughing at me. Though I swear everybody knows that

793
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: was around Tiffany, all the people that was around, he's

794
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: laughing at me. Right, He's like, yo, like, okay, we're

795
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: gonna see. And so I get up and I just

796
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: start barring down the whole room and they're like, oh

797
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: my god, what wal he like. So after I'm done,

798
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah. He like, hold on, man, yo, you

799
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: are not. He like, hold on, man, you got song songs?

800
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: Press play? So I play like five six of my

801
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: craziest records. He like, you wrote these, that's you on it.

802
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: He's like, okay, you know what? All right, y'all, y'all good?

803
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: Are we good? All right? Everybody good? All right? Bruh.

804
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: So at the time, I had went to New York

805
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: to meet Chris Lighty, but I had set up a

806
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: meeting with Mark Pitts, which is also my big bro,

807
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: which was the president of the RCA Records. But he

808
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: had by a storm and you know, he signed Chris

809
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: Brown signs.

810
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: How are you getting these contacts? You're like, just.

811
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: Because because I was moving around. So I was in

812
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: a studio and a dude named cast And how I

813
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: got to Mark Pitts was a dude named casting kind

814
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: of like was there with me. He was like early

815
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: with me when I was just hustling in there singing

816
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: making records all the time. And Caston was like, dude,

817
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: you are ridiculous on the pen like yo, like you

818
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: like you need to be, so he brought a dude

819
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: named Kirk Lightburn to the studio that he was cool with,

820
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: and Kirk Lightburn worked from Mark Pitts, and Kirk Lightburn

821
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: heard me and was like, Yo, I need to get

822
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: you to New York to meet Mark period. So they

823
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: were scheduling it, and I scheduled Chris Lighty and Mark

824
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 3: Pitts same in two days. And so when I told

825
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: when I went and met with Mark Pitts and RCA,

826
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: we had such a vibe. I was with him, we

827
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: was locked in and him the whole off. He was like, Yo,

828
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: let's let's lock it and let's get it. Were good

829
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: you Buystorm And I went to Chris Lighti and Chris

830
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: Lighty was like, I can't even let you leave. Bro.

831
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna say I would have never It was like,

832
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: I can't.

833
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: Even let you leave. He's like, honestly, I know where

834
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: you went from, but you the biggest your next trust me,

835
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: I know what it is. And I was like, I

836
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: think I was twenty at the time. I'm like, I

837
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't old enough to drink. So I'm like I'm like,

838
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, so what you want to do?

839
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: He like well, well, how much you need or what

840
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: do you not? How much? He said, what do you need?

841
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well right now, honestly, I just got

842
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: this little apartment that joint kind of hitting. But I've

843
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: been doing all cuntient. But I said, I'm finna go

844
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: back and the home you gotta lick. Right now, I'm

845
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: supposed to be up, Like if we hit this and

846
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: get away with this, I'm gonna be up fifty thousand.

847
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: You said that, yeah, but I'm telling them, really, what's happening. Yeah,

848
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, cause I'm like, but the home you gotta lick.

849
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm supposed to be writing this, and

850
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: these niggas want me to come to Germany. I'm he like, listen,

851
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: how much add up all your bills for the year.

852
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: And I'm like all right, I'm sitting there. He like,

853
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: do it now, and I'm sitting here and I'm adding

854
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: up and I'm like, oh damn. I'm like, okay, I

855
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: rent two thousand month, so that's already twenty four thy

856
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: twelve months. And then this car I just got off

857
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: this stupid ad. I got it from Statewide, which they

858
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: give you that you know, state Wide, No they you

859
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: ain't got no credit, but you want to flaws. You

860
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: put down thirty percent and they'll give you a car.

861
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: But they come in to repo at the day you

862
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: missed one payment. It's unusual so anyway, because they repot it.

863
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: So that's how I know. So I had this state

864
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 3: wide joint and I'm like, dang, thirteen hundred a month,

865
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, I added that up. So tod,

866
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm like damn. After I started adding up, like I

867
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: just need to get but I need to be fly,

868
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: and then I needed I'm like, damn, my bill's like

869
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars a month. Bro. No, But I'm sitting

870
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: there and I'm talking. I'm like in my head and

871
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, bro, I ain't gonna lie all this, Okay.

872
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: So whole time, I'm dating this girl, Genevieve Jackson right

873
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 3: since I was, because I can't leave her out either

874
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: because she was pivotal back then. She's Michael Jackson's niece, right,

875
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: Jermaine's daughter, Randy's so like, I was also off and on,

876
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: living in the Jackson House on haven Hurst real like I.

877
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: Didn't have a spot to stay because they grew up

878
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: on haven Hurst and Mensino with the giraffe and all

879
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: that other that they grew up in that crazy mansion.

880
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: And she was my girl since I was sixteen. So

881
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: I was with her from sixteen to like twenty something,

882
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: so twenty I think or twenty one, I don't know.

883
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: We just got her like five years. But during this time,

884
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: I was also living off and on at the Jackson House.

885
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: Between my boy Shank's house and the Jackson House. So

886
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: my best friend Shank, we all shocked up in this

887
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: one bedroom over there. And then when it's getting bad

888
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: over there, I'm going to my girl house. She got

889
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: a mansion. I'm sleeping in the room Michael used to

890
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: sleep in. No dead ass, this is my baby. This

891
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 3: is my girl, like look Jennivier. So I'm playing scrabble

892
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: with miss Jackson, like Dr Majesty ja'afar, her little brother,

893
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: the whole family. We there. Janet's coming home to see

894
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: her mom at random times, and this is where her

895
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: grandma lived. She lived with her grandma, So that's Michael's mom,

896
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: that's Janis mind as everybody. So I'm there and I

897
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: was just like inside of the highest frequency. And then

898
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: go to the hood and be in the hood. It's

899
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: the weirdest. It was like where I was so catching

900
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: frequencies from everywhere. So I can't leave her out either

901
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: because she was she was also looking out back then

902
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: in terms of like letting me stay there and whatever.

903
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 3: Like she was solid back then. I can't just skip

904
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: over her. But I also besides Ruben Cannon and I

905
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: was everywhere, but that was one of the main places

906
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: I was obviously because I was my girl, So it

907
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: was what it was. But skip up. So I was

908
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: with her and he was tripping off that like dang

909
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: you with the jack like it was.

910
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: A thing when you were wait, go back. So he

911
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: asked you how much you made for a year? Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,

912
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: So you end up telling it up and telling him,

913
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: But how did he know that you were with her?

914
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: That's what I was saying, because I actually took her

915
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: out there. Yeah, I took.

916
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: Her out there.

917
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: So so so my boy let me stay at his house.

918
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: Roger Mason, which was playing for the Knicks at the time.

919
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 3: Roger Mason from the Knicks used to play for The

920
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: King's Two. But Roger Mason was trying to get me

921
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: to do his artist's project C. C. Cigar. So I'm

922
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: like like, ooh, I could go out there. I can

923
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: have these meetings. I could link with Roger figure out

924
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: if I can get a check out of him. And

925
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: so so I'm like, so Roger's like, yeah, you come,

926
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: you and your girl come, y'all just stay. He had

927
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: a penthouse over There's like, y'all got to stay here.

928
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn you know me, I'm like, oh, I

929
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: got the oh, I got to New York. I was

930
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: in the big house. I was in there and being

931
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: at her in this tag like it's so it was up.

932
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: That's one of my best friends. Still. Roger Mason's really

933
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: won't so, you know, he was so anybody I met

934
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: with him. I'm sitting there with him. I'm telling him

935
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: like yo, He's like, damn you a Jackson. This is crazy,

936
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: like all this other stuff. Right, So he's like, all right, cool,

937
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: So how much five thousand a month for me? That

938
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: was a lot for him. He didn't even remember that

939
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: I even said five thousand a month. So he's like

940
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: fivey twelve sixty. He's like, all right, cool, I'm gonna

941
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: have you a check tomorrow for seventy thousand. After you

942
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: get that check, I'm gonna you're gonna work that check

943
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: back off. I will take it out of the money

944
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: that I make you. And I'm like, hold on, bro,

945
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: So you saying, if I saw if we do this

946
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: management and everything right here, right here, right now, you

947
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: fin the cut. I'm getting seventy thousand for you to

948
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: manage me and go get make me some more money.

949
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: And smo, do you believe in me that much? Were

950
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: you thinking? I said, Bro, it's over. Signed with Chris Lighty,

951
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: we locked in and it was like that was that

952
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 3: was the first person to believe in me. Chris Lighty

953
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: for real. And he was the one that was walking

954
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: around all offices like rock star. He did so so

955
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: so okay, all this confidence that you hear that right

956
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: there don't really work in the music business unless you

957
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: have accolades. I didn't have them, but I knew who

958
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: I was. So when you're walking around and you know

959
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: who you are, early, it's problems.

960
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: But it wasn't.

961
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: Now I heard because Kanye is like that too, but wasn't.

962
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: But before he was Kanye, he was producer.

963
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: For other people.

964
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: But was he was He was always.

965
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 3: Confident, but he wasn't on what I was going because

966
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: the thing about him was I'm just saying, yeah, it

967
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: was that I get like he is like like me

968
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: and him would have been best friends, but he was

969
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: like the way he was, he was still like up

970
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: under whoever, like he was up under the rock or

971
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: up under dame er, can you look out me? I'm

972
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: finna go be, Dang, I'm finna go be. I'm finna

973
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: go figure it out, like yeah, man light, he managed me,

974
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 3: but he was setting me up to become me, you

975
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I was already walking in the

976
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 3: buildings like, yeah, who's your biggest artist? All right, cool,

977
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: I'll do the album, but this is how we're gonna

978
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: do this, and they're like who is this? And Chris like, yo,

979
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: he's next. I just told you. I put all y'all,

980
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: then I put you on. I just told you he's next.

981
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 3: And then they'd be like, oh a right, Chris, all right,

982
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: well let's do So Chris was more like standing behind

983
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: bullying like whatever. Like Chris was so solid that he

984
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: was like rock, just talk your shit, just go off.

985
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: So I was running through buildings going off like whatever,

986
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: who is it? All right? What's the artist? Okay, this

987
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: is trash. Let's redo this. But I was delivering, like

988
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: when it was my time to shine. He'd come in

989
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: and press play like I told y'all. Okay, So we

990
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: was winning, and so I went and got an artist.

991
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: You know, he'd be like, rock, you need the you

992
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: gotta get in your mogul mode. All this genius put

993
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: it on an artist. So I went and got this

994
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 3: artist named Jude Claire Demors right out of Detroit. And

995
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to know Chris and the Cute. I

996
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 3: actually caught her walking out of Chris and Cute's office

997
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: Chris and Cute and was like, everybody's passing on this girl.

998
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: And I looked at her and I'm like, this chick

999
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: is like gorgeous. She was like she was like just

1000
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: she had a thing to her and I'm like, dang,

1001
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 3: you a star man. And she's like yeah, and she

1002
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: from the She's like from the bottom of the d

1003
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: Like she's like Foster Home like type. Her parents were

1004
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: running back, so she was like from the bottom. Like so,

1005
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: but she's a white girl. It's the weirdest thing. So

1006
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: she like that Tina Marine, you know, you never heard

1007
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: of her. Jude dem she ever seen Star She's on

1008
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 3: the show Star But but but but anyway, I knew,

1009
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: I knew. I knew she was a start early because

1010
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: when I see him like yo, and her voice was

1011
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: real dope, and I'm like, damn, that's crazy. So I

1012
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: grabbed Jude and I'm like, yo, just roll me, let me.

1013
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sign you. I'm gonna do your project. We're

1014
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 3: gonna get you popping. And she's like, all right, let's

1015
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: do it. So she signed me. My well, my lawyer,

1016
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: Roger Patton was opening a lot of doors for me,

1017
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: my boy Kenny Lattimore, which was singing with my sister. Again.

1018
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people from my sister too.

1019
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: Kenny Latimore introduced me to Roger Patton, my lawyer. To

1020
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: this day, I never changed. I stick to the code

1021
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: my lawyer to this day. I made him millions of dollars.

1022
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: She's still the same lawyer. Roger Patton linked me with

1023
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: a bunch of different people, but he did all the contracts.

1024
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: He was ideals. So I signed her. And when I

1025
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: signed her, I did her album and Chris was like, Yo,

1026
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: do her album, get it right. And I signed this

1027
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: other girl, Carolina Web which is like one of the

1028
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: greatest talents. She's ridiculous, like a rock chick like something,

1029
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: but anyway, like a paramour. But I signed her and

1030
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: her and I and when I signed her, He's like,

1031
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: do her album. Let's go do it. So I've been

1032
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: album I was. I was doing all kind of stuff

1033
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: like me and her was locked in finished her album.

1034
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: She was still on the bottom and I'm We're like,

1035
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna run. So we So we walked into Jimmy

1036
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: Ivian's house, right and this is the first time I

1037
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: ever started seeing what was going on. So besides him

1038
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: giving me that seventy thousand dollars check, the other biggest

1039
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: check I got was was Roger Mason ended up giving

1040
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: me two hundred and twenty thousand dollars to do CC

1041
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 3: Cigars album. So now I'm up like two ninety now,

1042
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 3: my mam and me up to ninety. You don't want

1043
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: me to be up to ninety at that point, but

1044
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: I was doing it. Hey, look, I was like to night.

1045
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: When I looked at this, it was zeros in the

1046
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: account and it was legal man on my mama, you

1047
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: don't even want to talk to me. Talking to me

1048
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: was wild because I was just saying, I mean, what

1049
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 3: do you mean I'll fly out of here? Hey, look,

1050
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: I thought I was next year. It was I blew

1051
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: through the money so fast that my ankles on twisted.

1052
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: That's how fast I ran through the money. My ankles

1053
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: almost twisted. How fast I ran through the money. It

1054
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: was unusual. But I didn't even get there yet. Thank

1055
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: you for ruining that. But yeah, I absolutely ran through

1056
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: the money. And when I tell you, I never not

1057
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: ran through the money. It's mandatory that you run through

1058
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: the money. Though. A billionaire broke that down to me

1059
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: because I never understood why I kept blowing my money.

1060
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: That's a huge part that people have to realize. Why

1061
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: do you blow your money? Why? So a couple different

1062
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: mobuls taught me different things, but one billionaire told me,

1063
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: you know the reason you blowed through your money, Like

1064
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: you keep complaining because one time I went broke. This

1065
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: we're skipping up. You got me skipping up. One time

1066
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: I went broke right after I got all this money.

1067
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 3: One time I went broke. And when I was broke,

1068
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: I was sitting there and I'm telling him, like, bro

1069
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: I'm fucked up right now. You ain't got no projects like,

1070
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: just give me a bridge and I'm gonna get back

1071
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: on my feet. And he like, he like, listen, how

1072
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 3: much you I'm like give me, like I need like

1073
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: a core, I need like two hundred and fifty thousand.

1074
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: So he like, all right, listen, you keep looking real emo.

1075
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: And I don't like the way you're talking about yourself

1076
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 3: or the way you feeling, like the way you're I'm

1077
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: used to a different type of rock star. You gotta

1078
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: understand how the trajectory of money goes. And I'm like,

1079
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: what you mean? He said, listen, When I made five

1080
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 3: hundred thousand, I lost it. Then I made a million,

1081
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: I lost it. Then I made two million. I lost

1082
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 3: it until I got to a place where I made

1083
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 3: enough where I could fall on a cloud and I

1084
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 3: was still up there, and then I could keep going

1085
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: from there. He said, it's mandatory because you have to

1086
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: go low to go high. You gotta bend your knees

1087
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: to jumps gravity. If you don't go low, you're not

1088
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: gonna go high. So your trajectory even on a stock obviously,

1089
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: now me being publicly traded, a publicly traded company owner,

1090
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: and me being a stock me being who I today

1091
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: and a mogul and a different type of thing with tech,

1092
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: and I understand now how graphs and charts work. Back then,

1093
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what he was talking about, but

1094
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: I did say, dang, you do gotta being your needs

1095
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: to jump. You gotta go lower to go higher. He's like, bro,

1096
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: you keep don't fold because you hit the ground. You

1097
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: should be rejoicing. You the type of dude you are.

1098
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: You think you're gonna stay here? Yeah? Right, I bet

1099
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: everything in my account you'll be rich in the year.

1100
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: And I'm like what damn. I'm like, okay, cool, And

1101
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: he didn't give me the money. He was like, I'm

1102
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: not gonna give you the money because you gotta go

1103
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: through the steps to go get the money. Go figure

1104
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: it out. Shit. And I'm like, damn, this nigga did

1105
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: all that and I didn't get nothing. This sucks. This

1106
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: nigga sucks. But at the end of the day, it

1107
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: was so true. I was like, yo, and I figured

1108
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 3: out how to maneuver and figure and everything. Every detail

1109
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 3: was mandatory for my next elevation, you know what I'm saying.

1110
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: So it's crazy, but anyway, that's not where I was at.

1111
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: You got me over here going broke and stuff like that.

1112
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: Where losing my money? Where was I at? No? I

1113
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: was somewhere else, is going brilliant?

1114
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: All right, Yo, you got your money from Chris lady up,

1115
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: you got the two hundred and twenty, and he was

1116
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: feeling yourself.

1117
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: I was doing as much as one person could do.

1118
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: I'll talk about So. Then I bump into Chris Brown, right, No, no, no,

1119
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 3: not yet, Chris Lighty, No no, no, Let's go back

1120
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: to June. That's where I was at so so so

1121
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: Claire Demos. I'm sitting there at Dinner album. We walk

1122
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: into Jimmy Ivin's house. Jimmy Ivien, me and Chris Lighty

1123
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: sit there and play the music and I'm in Jimmy house.

1124
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, Jimmy made everybody. So I'm sitting there in

1125
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: Jimmy house and I'm like, yo, I'm nervous, but I'm like, shit,

1126
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 3: I just made the craziest album ever. I got Tina

1127
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: Marie right here, press play. And he's sitting there, Jimmy.

1128
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: He's like yeah with his hat, He's like, mansion is stupendous.

1129
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here like this is cantankerous. I'm in this joint,

1130
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: like need me one of these, I'm saying. So anyway, yeah,

1131
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: it's unusual activity. So I'm in gim me. I mean,

1132
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here, and I'm like, damn, this is crazy.

1133
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: So we present play and so he's sitting there and

1134
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm she's nervous, so she ain't selling the records, so

1135
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 3: I get to selling the records for her. Damn. There,

1136
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 3: I'm in that mother like boo, I'm I'm sitting So

1137
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: he's now paying attention to what I'm doing. I'm lipping

1138
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: the words and this up then and then I'm here,

1139
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: so I just take because she ain't able to right

1140
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: now for some reason, she not being her. She's a

1141
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 3: star twenty four to seven, but something made her not deliver,

1142
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: and I said, damn, so I had to take the

1143
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: floor and I'm instead and I'm you know, as a producer.

1144
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: We still we made it. So we're sitting there and

1145
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: we know how to still deliver whatever's happening. And so

1146
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 3: he's sitting there, so he tells Chrisy goes, Okay, I

1147
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: like her, but he's the star, so what do you

1148
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: want to do with him? And so she so Chris

1149
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: Landy like, oh, Okay, well we'll figure it out. Let's

1150
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: talk and to that. So we get in the car

1151
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 3: and she starts crying, breaking it down. She acting like

1152
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: I did it something. So I'm like, damn. Like so

1153
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 3: that's another thing, managing artists and them whole. So I'm

1154
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: like damn. So I'm sitting here with her and I'm like, listen,

1155
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: you didn't sell it. Period.

1156
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: You said that to her?

1157
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: What me, I'm saying everything. I'm telling her you didn't

1158
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: sell it. We did all this and you didn't sell it.

1159
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: So that's not my fault. You're supposed to sell it.

1160
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: So me and her do all that, and she like, ah,

1161
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: it's a whole thing. So I tell Chris, I say, Chris,

1162
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: I need you to set something up. She don't feel

1163
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: good about herself right now. It feels like this is this,

1164
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: we got it. We gotta deliver. And Chris like, I'm

1165
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: gonna call La Red.

1166
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, do you leave Jimmy with the

1167
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 2: whole I want him?

1168
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: So he was see Chris started kind of like like,

1169
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: we'll circle back to Jimmy because he want to work

1170
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: with you. Because Jimmy signs Timberland's producers and doctor dres

1171
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: and forrels and that's what that's what Jimmy. Yeah, so

1172
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: he's met people like me show up. He like, oh,

1173
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: it's another to doctor Dry. That's why I come over.

1174
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: So he's on that type of vibe. But that's where

1175
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: he's thinking. But she's like, I'm still in the middle

1176
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: of I just completed this project and gave her all

1177
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: these promises. Claire. I got you out the hood, I

1178
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: got you you good. We're from Detroit. It's over. It's us,

1179
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: it's just me and you against the world. And Chris,

1180
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: let's get it done. I promised you you was gonna

1181
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: get signed. I know, nobody ever did it. I'm gonna

1182
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: do it for you. And I was, and I was

1183
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: stuck on it. So I told Chris right now, forget me,

1184
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: let's go to somebody. So he hit He hit La Reid.

1185
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: So we missed the flight to go meet La Red.

1186
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh my god. So I'm just in

1187
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: the airport with Claire. I'm losing it. Claire's like, Yo,

1188
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: this is crazy because I always miss every flight because

1189
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: I'm my My scheduling is try. So I missed the flight.

1190
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: She's looking at me like I've done, signed to the

1191
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: most incompetent. He's a genius, but he just what is

1192
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: he doing? So she's sitting here and she's like, she's

1193
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: a white girl, but she's a black woman. It's not

1194
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: a normal. Yeah, it's not She's not a normal. So

1195
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: she's sitting there like and I'm like, damn. I'm like,

1196
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 3: I just missed a flight. So Chris like, you missed

1197
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: a flight. So he cussing me out. So I'm like, damn.

1198
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, so he like, listen, I set it up

1199
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: for a week later. Get here in a week, bro,

1200
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: if you miss this flight, don't talk to me for

1201
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm not even talking to you no more. I'm like, damn.

1202
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: So I get on the flight. I'm domn there sleeping

1203
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 3: the airport. I'm in that the flight. I'm not the

1204
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 3: flight on Wednesday. I'm in there Tuesday. Like I'm in

1205
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: that joint right, I don't even care. So we get

1206
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: on that flight, made, we go to La re We

1207
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: go to La Reid's office. When we go to La

1208
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: Reid's office, I'm in there with this an r that

1209
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: was kind of like feeling Claire a little bit off

1210
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 3: what was going on, named Randy Rozano and so she

1211
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: was like kind of champion and like whatever you wanted.

1212
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: Like she was like, yo, when you go to La Reid,

1213
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in there like that was one of

1214
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: his main a and rs. She like, y'all, I'm gonna

1215
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: be with y'all. Like this is crazy, like I love it,

1216
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 3: and everybody respected Chris. So everybody's kind of like, yo,

1217
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: let's do it, like this is a thing. And so

1218
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: I took Claire. I'm like, listen before we go in here,

1219
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: you this is where Rihanna came from. You're Rihanna. This

1220
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: has to happen. Let's go like this is not a game.

1221
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be selling your sell yourself. Please, this

1222
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: is crazy. And she like I got this, don't worry

1223
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: about it. I got it. I'm like all right, cool.

1224
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 3: So we go up at La Reid's office and La

1225
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: Reid sitting there and he's like, no, da da, but

1226
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: see Claire's bad. So La read like he got the

1227
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: Rihanna's and the Pink singer. So when he sees something,

1228
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: he's like, so she walk in and she come in

1229
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: and da da da. He like, okay, go ahead, play it.

1230
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: But when you playing the song perform it. I'm like,

1231
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: oh my god. So I'm like, this is finnicky crazy already.

1232
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't even know. But I'm like, oh, so clear,

1233
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 3: get up, and she'd kill it. She'd get to doing

1234
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: whatever they be doing when you do stuff. So she

1235
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 3: was cooking the records crazy and she in it, and

1236
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: she telling him, oh, this is she's singing the record

1237
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: and the record crazy sound like a new reality. And

1238
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: he like, all right, get y'all, go go ahead, and

1239
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. So he tells us

1240
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: I get it. In the middle of us doing this,

1241
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: She's like, I get it. Okay, y'all go ahead, go outside.

1242
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 3: Let's I'm gonna talk to Chris. I get it, Like

1243
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: I've seen enough. I'm like, damn. So we go outside

1244
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there. I'm like, damn, you blew it.

1245
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 3: I told you about this stupid ass dress you do

1246
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: on war and this probably would mess up. And she's like,

1247
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: man I did. So we in the in the lobby

1248
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: arguing about whatever the fuck because I'm thinking she I'm like,

1249
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know. So then Chris Lighty and La

1250
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 3: Reed come out with the other n rs and they're like,

1251
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 3: all right, all right, do you want the deal. I'm like,

1252
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: what deal. They're like, listen, we're gonna go across the

1253
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: street to Lavo. We're gonna let the lawyers do the deal.

1254
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: We're giving her her record deal right now. Y'all not

1255
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 3: leaving until we signing it. And I'm like, huh, so

1256
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: me and her we it's up. So she started crying.

1257
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: We running around. It's that. I'm like, oh, it's up.

1258
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: So I'm like, damn. So I'm sitting there with her like, yo,

1259
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: I can't believe I just did this because I really

1260
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: manifested and created and it worked and we're here, and

1261
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: so they like, no, so I go. And that was

1262
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 3: my first seven hundred and fifty thousand so I sold.

1263
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: I was twenty one. I think I sold her for

1264
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: seven hundred. She signed to me. It's called fs O

1265
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: for the Services Up. So she signed on my production company,

1266
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: and she signed the Epic Records through me. So so

1267
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: I basically you leased the artist pretty much. Anyway. I

1268
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: got the check, bought her a brand new Rams Rover,

1269
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: gave her a check, got her out her apartment. She

1270
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: was living with her sister and her mom and it's

1271
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 3: like over there in the middle of Korea town and

1272
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: something crazy. It was like it was crazy, but got

1273
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 3: them their own spot. They moved into this house. And

1274
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 3: that was the first time I ever flipped. That was

1275
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 3: that was like my first legal brick. Like I like load,

1276
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 3: like I found a collect that was pretty much a

1277
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 3: Colombian connect and I just flipped the whole. All that's

1278
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: gone one load. I showed up and we got out

1279
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: of there safe and the gorillas didn't get us. That

1280
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: was the most money I had ever seen at the time,

1281
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 3: so I'm like, oh my god, and I just went broke.

1282
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: That was the thing. I lost all the money doing

1283
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: too much because I had just got all that. The

1284
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: second again, yeah yeah, definitely lost again. But but that too,

1285
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: I just was I was down there like two ninety

1286
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 3: I was down there like two and nine dollars. I

1287
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: was down I'll tell you all to you know where

1288
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: I was at. It was bad. But anyway, so I'm

1289
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: sitting there broke, busted and discussed in the office. Boom

1290
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: that check come through. It's another seven. I'm like, oh,

1291
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm up now up So now I'm like, oh, so

1292
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: signed her there. That was the first time I ever

1293
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: went through having an artist and a major. That whole

1294
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 3: situation went far left. But we're not going to go

1295
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: into what that was because that was crazy. But you

1296
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: know that taught me a whole bunch of stuff there

1297
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 3: in terms of signing artist to majors and then the net.

1298
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: Let's keep skipping. The next big check was when I

1299
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: signed a label deal myself to Craig Calman. That was

1300
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: my first millions.

1301
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: Chris Oh, Chris Lighty, Chris Brown.

1302
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: That's where we're going, like watching a movie.

1303
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, I can have popcorn right now.

1304
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, So Chris Lighty oh ye, okay,

1305
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 3: we gotta wrap this up. So Chris Lighty, this is

1306
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: the sick part about this. Chris Lighty dies out the blue,

1307
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: right out the blue. So I'm like, what the so

1308
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: they called me like Chris dead. I'm like, huh, Chris

1309
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 3: who Chris Lighty dead. I'm like, hold on, bro, what

1310
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: so I'm like what So I'm fucked off. My head

1311
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: is fucked I'm like, bro, So I'm calling Dave. I'm crying.

1312
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm fucked up. I'm like, what is going on? So?

1313
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: This whole conspiracy is crazy? Ship. I'm like dude, what

1314
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: is going So once he once he died, all the

1315
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: vultures just fool. It got bad, right, It got bad

1316
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: right away because they already didn't like me. You understand,

1317
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 3: they didn't like me. They had to like me. Yeah,

1318
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: that's the thing. They had to like me because I

1319
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: pressed playing my speakers was smacking their stupid asses, and

1320
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 3: they had to like me because of who I was with,

1321
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: and it was hierarchy, so they couldn't do nothing about

1322
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: but like, all right, he's next. He guess he's the

1323
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: next Kanye like they had to, but they didn't want

1324
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 3: to and they didn't. So when he died, and my MoMA,

1325
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: one thing I remember I'll never forget. I walked into

1326
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: I snuck into the being my Awards and I walked

1327
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: into the being my Awards. And I'm gonna leave the

1328
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: exact name out of it because I liked the exact now,

1329
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: but back then it was the wick. It was the

1330
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: coldest shit I ever heard. And Nigga tell me so,

1331
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: I had already liked been trying to reach out to

1332
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: people afterwards, to do certain things, even trying to reach

1333
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: out to the label, and they didn't want to respond.

1334
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: And now they direct with my artists and I can't

1335
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: even get it.

1336
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: Jesus.

1337
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: So now the artists and all them is all best

1338
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: friends and I can't even nobody want to answer my calls.

1339
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: Now it's Rock who is Ain't no Chris, It's just Rock.

1340
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: So now I'm the little nigga again. I'm nobody again.

1341
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there and I'm like, damn, so I

1342
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: can't even get to the label. They taking my artists.

1343
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: She running around sessions and were about to drop. I

1344
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 3: don't know nothing about it. They doing whatever they want

1345
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 3: to do, and I'm trying to reach out to La

1346
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: Read and I can't get to them. None of them

1347
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 3: want to answer my call. So I'm like, man, it's crazy.

1348
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: So everybody kind of just blackball. It was like nobody was.

1349
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: It was like as soon as Chris, they was like,

1350
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: why would we answer the phone without Chris? This isn't

1351
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: making any sense right, So what happens is I'm like

1352
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 3: most people would have been like, damn, man, they ain't

1353
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: fuck with me. I'm done. But obviously lead that's when

1354
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: that confidence, like whatever God has for me, no man

1355
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 3: could stop. So I already knew, like y'all are trying

1356
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 3: to play me and just fueled me. Most people fold

1357
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 3: when they give that type of energy, they fold up.

1358
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: I get amped from it. It's like a big It's

1359
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: like the big that comes from me being in the

1360
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: streets the biggest dude hop out and oh what's up,

1361
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: and everybody like hey, backing up, and man, I don't

1362
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: want to I'm like, huh, I feel like now you think,

1363
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: now you think you want to show me. I'm finished

1364
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 3: try and do some amazing shit. So I want to

1365
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: show out. So I'm trying to do I always was

1366
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 3: that guy. I want to fight the biggest dude. I

1367
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 3: want to whatever. So I went after everybody pretty much

1368
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: in a nutshell in a different type of way. I'm like,

1369
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: I gotta play chess. They don't want to let me

1370
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 3: in the door. I'ma figure this out my throat. So

1371
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: I went to the b and my awards and wasn't

1372
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: nobody fucking with me. It was all what it was.

1373
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: And when I went to be in my awards, the dude,

1374
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: the executive, powerful executive, he sees me, he goes, yo,

1375
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: So how you being? I'm like, man, Ever since Chris

1376
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: Lighty died, Man, this industry just I'm seeing how fake

1377
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 3: it is. He's like, yeah, man, like Chris Lighty died,

1378
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: we didn't really want you in the building in the

1379
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: first place, Like we talked to you. He tells me,

1380
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 3: we didn't want you in the building in the first place.

1381
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 3: You you pretty much Chris barged his way in there

1382
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 3: with you, and we couldn't do nothing about it. But

1383
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, he's gone. So I

1384
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: don't know what the hell you're gonna do now because

1385
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 3: I don't see it happening. But he'd been waiting to

1386
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 3: say this. This is how wicked he be on the low.

1387
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: They don't see it happening. But good luck, bro, and yeah, man,

1388
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: it's all good. This is a jew too, It's all good.

1389
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 3: I holler at you. I'm like, damn, I'm like I said, listen,

1390
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: I said, Chris Lighty is gone, and you think my

1391
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: career over. He's like, I don't think your career is over,

1392
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 3: but I just don't see what you're gonna do next.

1393
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 3: I said, well, first of all, what you gotta understand

1394
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 3: is this shit is in me on a scale. You

1395
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: haven't even you the fact that you just said that.

1396
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: I said, I guarantee you you'll be cutting me a

1397
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 3: check soon, but I'm gonna holler at you, so we'll

1398
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: want to shake his hand. So he like, uh so boom,

1399
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 3: So I go back. I tell I guarantee you you're

1400
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 3: gonna cut me a check soon. And that's saying nigga

1401
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: ended up cutting me multiple checks. But the crazy thing

1402
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 3: is crazy thing is they will try and blacklist you

1403
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: to the maximum capacity if they feel like they can't.

1404
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 3: The industry is so scandalous if they can get you

1405
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 3: out the way they will. They're all scary ass executives.

1406
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 3: None of them want to be taking risk and putting

1407
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 3: their job on the line for you. And so I

1408
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 3: ended up, you know, kind of like have to navigate

1409
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 3: my artists being took me, kind of running through my

1410
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: bread not having nothing going on into who brought me

1411
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: back to life Mark Pitts with Chris Brown. So after

1412
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: all of that, right, you understand, after all of that,

1413
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there and I'm just like doing independent projects

1414
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 3: really like I gotta I'm hustling, and so I'm just

1415
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 3: doing independent projects. And so like I got a new

1416
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: girlfriend and she was signed the TI and I took her.

1417
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 3: And now they feel some time. It's crazy. So I'm

1418
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 3: already politic and all kind of stuff, right, it's crazy.

1419
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: I'm already in the mix. So I'm like, damn, like,

1420
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: I just keep running into roadblocks. So I'm sitting there

1421
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: and one day Chris Lighty, no Chris like Mark Pitts

1422
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 3: calls me and he goes, hey, you still make music.

1423
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, what do I make? I said, Now, Mark,

1424
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: you know I'm the greatest that ever lived. Why would

1425
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: you call me and ask me? Am I still the

1426
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 3: greatest that ever lived? And he goes, you are nuts?

1427
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 3: He said, Yo, pull up on me, man, we're doing

1428
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: this Chris Brown camp, pull up on me. Let's see

1429
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 3: what we can get accomplished. Like, I'm gonna just see.

1430
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: So check this out. I had just gotten to a

1431
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: whole pretty much scuffle with Chris Brown's whole team in

1432
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: the club supper club the night before.

1433
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1434
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: So so I'm in. I'm in. This is how crazy

1435
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 3: it is because I'm in the club, so like, this

1436
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: is how I'm doing stuff. So I'm in the club

1437
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 3: supper club and all this stuff because this where all

1438
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 3: the stars is coming, Like everybody's there, all the big

1439
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 3: stars of the time, kept coming to supper club. Yanna

1440
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: be there, this person be there, and my boy Johnny Cruz,

1441
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 3: who I grew up with, was running the club. It's

1442
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 3: the biggest club in Hollywood. So I'm in there and

1443
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm at the main table and he just like, just

1444
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: give me a thousand and give me. So I'm by

1445
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 3: bottles and I got bad, bitch. It's ridiculous. I got five, six,

1446
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 3: seven bad. So I'm walking in with seven eight bad bitches.

1447
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 3: And then they're like, damn, it's a good was this

1448
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 3: Hugh Hefner. I'm walking in So Chris Brown. This is

1449
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 3: the first time I ever interacted with him besides dance,

1450
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 3: because I met Chris Brown two times before, but it

1451
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 3: wasn't that type of experience. He came to the Jackson House.

1452
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: You can actually look up Chris Brown going to the

1453
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: Jackson House. I was there. He came to the Jackson

1454
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: House to meet the Jackson kids because he's always idolized Michael.

1455
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 3: First time I ever met Chris, but it was quick

1456
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 3: and it was some Jackson. He probably thought I was

1457
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 3: a Jackson kid, right. So I was in the I

1458
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: was in there like I was in there doing whatever

1459
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 3: they was doing. Hey, how are you. I think I

1460
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 3: was switching it all up. I don't even know whatever

1461
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: they was on. I was doing, yes, but hey, mister Brown,

1462
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 3: are you because they talk real polite about everything, could

1463
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: be cussing you out politely. So I'm sitting there with

1464
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 3: them on some like whole other. I we all in there.

1465
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 3: He's taking a picture and he's like in awe and

1466
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: he's stars struck and I'm in there and I'm like, yeah,

1467
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm just blending in out and definitely the darkest one.

1468
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 3: And so anyway, so that happened, right. That was the

1469
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: first time I met him. Then I met him through

1470
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: Crump obviously, because he started to use Crump in everything,

1471
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 3: and so he would come to our Crump arenas Doun

1472
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 3: the Missus Obviously. Chris Brother was one of my best

1473
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 3: friends now right all these years later, but back then

1474
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 3: I didn't know. We didn't know each other. So he

1475
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: was sitting there and he was going through the Crump arenas,

1476
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 3: and he was like one of the only stars that

1477
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: would actually show up to the Crump sessions. So it'd

1478
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: be big Crump sessions with all these people doing its

1479
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 3: Crump anas, and he would show up in battle on stage,

1480
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 3: like all right, cool call out. So he would come

1481
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 3: with britty with me ho and then was like ops.

1482
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm like, ooh, he come with the ops.

1483
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 3: So I'm bumping into him on a dance tip. It's

1484
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 3: still that, you know what I'm saying. It ain't so anyway,

1485
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: back to the club. So we in the club. I

1486
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 3: got all these bitches, No, we're doing all this. So

1487
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 3: one day he like, damn, his table over there was

1488
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 3: kind of dry. He like, yo, So I had a

1489
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: chick that looked like a bagging now, laters, unbelievable. I'm

1490
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,520
Speaker 3: talking the next level, just an all pink star burst.

1491
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 3: And so he was sitting there. He was looking because Chris,

1492
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 3: you know, he if it's a bad bitch around, he

1493
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: don't even he like what's going. So I'm like, yo,

1494
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 3: see me. He look over and I don't even know.

1495
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm like that. I'm like, so I sent him go

1496
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: go to his table. I don't even want you here.

1497
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to.

1498
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 2: Like, see you want it.

1499
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 3: I did. It didn't matter anyone Politiican right now, these

1500
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: niggas ain't messing it. I was just like, yo, I'm

1501
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: trying to he's my we're the same age. So he

1502
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 3: looking at me like, who is this nigga with all

1503
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 3: this motion? Because who am I?

1504
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: So you send over the appetizer?

1505
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: I send over there? So he like, damn he said

1506
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: this type of frequency. So he over there. He like, okay,

1507
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 3: you kind of respect, like a little bit like, oh

1508
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 3: a nigga, send you a couple bad But you're like, okay,

1509
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 3: who why we ain't be gonna be best friends. But

1510
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 3: it's like so the next week, he don't come to

1511
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 3: the table, don't come to the club. But I come

1512
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 3: back to saying I'm back six Chames, hey, look, and

1513
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: then his crew come, what's you're all my niggas now?

1514
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 3: But back then it wasn't. So then I get there.

1515
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: I bought his table because they say he wasn't coming,

1516
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 3: so I bought his table. So they come to his

1517
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 3: table and they telling me like they telling me like, yo,

1518
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: that's our table. Really, the homie chick was the one

1519
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 3: pressing the line like this is my table. I'm like,

1520
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 3: just say your fucking table? Fuck you talking about I

1521
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 3: just cut to that. So I don't even know really

1522
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 3: that that's his niggas. His cousin is Keys and Autumn

1523
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: but we in it and we back and forth. So

1524
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: she like, so he's stepping up for his girl. I'm like,

1525
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: nigga woo. So we're now it's a whole fucking thing

1526
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 3: between me and my niggas. Him keeps all these other niggas,

1527
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 3: They're like ooh, So we get into it. I'm like,

1528
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 3: what they do? What I'm saying? You know, I'm gangbanging. So

1529
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm doing this. I get right to I get right,

1530
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 3: I go right back to South Central. I get right

1531
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 3: back to that and mean what nigga wool? So I'm

1532
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: dripping and they like what nigga bo. So it's back

1533
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 3: and forth, and it's up because these niggas is Virginia, rowdy,

1534
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: burnt out niggas, and plus a couple other niggas like

1535
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 3: like Red. He had a couple of it, the hommy

1536
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: Red and a couple other niggas. It's a couple of

1537
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: buzz out here, different niggas. And he was sliding with

1538
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: and they was there and I'm I'm payd we on

1539
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 3: some show. It's up. So it's all kind of la

1540
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 3: shit going on. So after that, I'm like, whoah, all right,

1541
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 3: bet wool, and we don't bump into each other, nigga

1542
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 3: because they came and broke it off. I wold, nigga,

1543
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 3: we gonna wool, so we lead the club whatever. The

1544
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 3: next day, Mark Pitts calls me the next day, right,

1545
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: so I don't even not even thinking about nothing. So

1546
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 3: I go into the studio Glenn Wood, and I walk in.

1547
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 3: When I walk in, I walk by and all seven

1548
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 3: of them niggas is sitting there in the lobby looking

1549
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 3: at me like what the fuck? So when I walk up,

1550
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 3: they hop up, they like, what's up with this nigga?

1551
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 3: And I'm looking. I'm like, so I'm walking by this again,

1552
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 3: and Mark like he come meet me in a lobby

1553
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 3: like rock what up? So then they see Mark see

1554
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 3: me and they know he the executive, so they're like

1555
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: they kind of stop, like hold on, bro, like what

1556
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 3: the fuck? So they on some shit. I'm on some shit.

1557
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, So I tell Mark, I go in

1558
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: the back. I ain't say nothing to Mark. I ain't

1559
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 3: gonna lie. I ain't even tell him nothing. And he's

1560
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 3: still to this day he talk to Mark Bnzy always

1561
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 3: be like Yo, this nigga. He didn't even tell him nothing.

1562
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: He takes me back to room see and glen Wood

1563
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 3: and he tells me, all right, Rock, just try and

1564
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 3: create something. You know what I'm saying. We working on Chris,

1565
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: and just try and create something. And I'm like, all right,

1566
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 3: shit whatever. So I go in there and I start

1567
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 3: creating crazy shit, right. So the nigga come back in

1568
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 3: like twelve minutes later, and he like, why the fuck

1569
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 3: you didn't tell me you be beefing with these niggas.

1570
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 3: You got in a fight with these niggas. Yes, So

1571
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: Mark like, Rock, why you didn't tell me you got

1572
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 3: in a fight with these And I'm like, but I

1573
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 3: get to plan psychology. I'm like, so because I got

1574
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: something going on with somebody's friends or posse or homies

1575
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 3: that has something to do with an executive conversation. I

1576
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 3: just told, you know, Chris. Then I start bringing up Chris,

1577
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 3: like and did that. And then he like, listen, Rod,

1578
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna shut it down.

1579
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 3: Don't come out this room, and you just work, okay,

1580
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: And I don't got time, So I'm like all right.

1581
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 3: So I'm in the room, right and he don't come

1582
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 3: back for like six hours. So I do five records like,

1583
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: niggas do not even a song in a day. I

1584
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: did five of them, bitches. So he come back in

1585
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: the room and he's like, yo, you did you do anything.

1586
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 3: I'm like anything. So the group so my bands who

1587
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 3: is the engineer at the time who ended up being

1588
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 3: my engineer for the whole album after that, he was

1589
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 3: in there. He was like, Yo, this nigga just did

1590
01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: five songs. He was like, five songs. Hell no, bro,

1591
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 3: I just did five song. He like, press play, So

1592
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: I press play on this record call up Down that

1593
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: you can google and actually see c B a first record.

1594
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 3: He actually cut him one. It's called up Down. I

1595
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 3: did this record, and he like this is crazy. He like,

1596
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: hold on, man, hold on, this is what I was

1597
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 3: trying to tell niggas. So he walk out the room

1598
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like damn. So he go get Chris in

1599
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 3: room A and Chris come walking in with fifty niggas.

1600
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 3: Told me I'm talking about like fifty niggas, all the niggas.

1601
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: I got problems with the other niggas, the niggas that

1602
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 3: they was in there talking shit with ten at Davis

1603
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 3: seventh Streeter, all these niggas, right, So I'm like damn.

1604
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 3: So they come walking. They they're so thick that they

1605
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: can't even fit through the studio door. That's how many

1606
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 3: of them niggas. It was, and bitches. Everything they gave,

1607
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 3: everybody came because they're like, let's see you with this niggas.

1608
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 3: Ok So I press play. He marked like, hey, play

1609
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 3: that last song. So I don't even look at them niggas.

1610
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 3: I just turn around to the board and press play.

1611
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know that, and the way I'm

1612
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 3: getting off, like as a dancer, like the way I

1613
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: bob in the way I moved the shit. He was like,

1614
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 3: oh like it immediately, but the shit was banging, so

1615
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: he like, damn. So I turned like out the blue,

1616
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: like you know, like thirty seconds later, I'm playing, and

1617
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: that nigga back there like right, but the niggas behind

1618
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 3: him is like Dave was not with nothing I was

1619
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 3: talking about. So I'm like, damn. So he I see him,

1620
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 3: He like, hey, bro, when it come out, he like

1621
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: that's fight. He loaded up in the room. I'm like,

1622
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 3: oh okay, so he take the record, go load it up.

1623
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 3: And then when he loaded it up, he like, whoa,

1624
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 3: you come back? So I'm in there and Mark like

1625
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: just keep working. So it's like twelve o'clock and I'm

1626
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 3: instilled in there working. I did another like four records.

1627
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is I don't give I'm out working everybody, nigga,

1628
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 3: I'm making hits. Fuck everybody, let's go. I'm looking shit

1629
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 3: loaded up, knock it out. I'm free styling records. That's

1630
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 3: how crazy I was going on these records. And then

1631
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 3: so he like he come back in Chris like by himself.

1632
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 3: He like, hey, come listen to this. So I'm like

1633
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: all right, So I go in the room, I go

1634
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: listen to the record. And when I'm listening to the record,

1635
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm like damn. And so he played it. He like whoa, whoa.

1636
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 3: And now these nigga's in there bobbing because they was

1637
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 3: in there with him and they feel like they're part

1638
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 3: of it there. So now everybody fucking with it now.

1639
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 3: And then so I'm in there, I come in. They

1640
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 3: still got to stank attitude whatever, right, so so so

1641
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: so basically he was like, yo, I love this record.

1642
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 3: D So he told Mark Markers like I told you

1643
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 3: this nigga hot, and so he left you. When we

1644
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 3: was leaving, he was like I'm about to go home.

1645
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: But listen, bro, after I get off community service, like

1646
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: meet me here like like come tomorrow, bro. I'm like

1647
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: all right, for sure. Yeah, Chris tell me like come tomorrow. Yeah.

1648
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: He's like at the community service like come tomorrow. I'm

1649
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: like all right. Show. Oh so I tell Mark like, hey,

1650
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: Chris told me to come tomorrow. Should I come? He like, yeah, nigga, come,

1651
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 3: What the hell did you talk about? Come and stop

1652
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 3: blindsiding me. I sat there and had to put my

1653
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 3: neck in. Tina came over here and you to cuss

1654
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 3: me out about you. I'm like, damn. So from there,

1655
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 3: I came every day and every day I made hit

1656
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 3: records until I made Find China, and then it was bad.

1657
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: Then it was over. It's over, It's done. I mean crazily.

1658
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 3: I did executive produced the like I'm from then where no,

1659
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 3: But you know I went from executive produce. I went

1660
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 3: from that album. So after Find China see Find China, see,

1661
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 3: Chris was at a very different place. And this is

1662
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 3: why me being in at Jackson House changed my life.

1663
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 3: Because Find China changed my life. You understand what I'm saying.

1664
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 3: That was the biggest record and It changed the radio,

1665
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 3: and it made everybody think Michael Jackson had just died.

1666
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 3: It made everybody. Even Janet Jackson called and said, this

1667
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: is the closest thing I ever heard to my brother,

1668
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: I need whoever produced this album to come do my album,

1669
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 3: which is crazy because she didn't even know I was

1670
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 3: dating her niece. She even know it was me. So

1671
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: but that's a different story. But what I'm saying is fine.

1672
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 3: China was so massive and it hit so hard that everybody.

1673
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: Bruno Mars changed his sound. Everybody changed their sound and

1674
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 3: went to that. Bruno Mars went from beautiful girls to

1675
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 3: now everybody's in the eighties. I don't want no I'm like, oh,

1676
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 3: so all y'all want to bring basslines to the radio.

1677
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 3: I changed music guaranteed. So once Chris did find China.

1678
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Timberland walked in the room

1679
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 3: and then me and Timberland was locked in for about

1680
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: four months straight. Timberland is the reason I did the

1681
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 3: stuff with Beyonce. With Beyonce flew me out to Jungle

1682
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 3: City and he brought me to at least get Timberland

1683
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: brought me to some different people because me and him

1684
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 3: was super locked in so but he came to the

1685
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: camp late after the album was damn, they're done, and

1686
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 3: he was like he heard find China, stopped the music

1687
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 3: and said, listen, this is the craziest shit. What the

1688
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 3: fuck is happening? Who did this? And they was like, oh,

1689
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: Chris and Allen was like that nigga. He was like, nigga,

1690
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 3: you are not normal. Oh for show they're like you.

1691
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 3: But at that time I was at I was in

1692
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: the camp, his friends, it became my best friends, his cousin,

1693
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: my cousin. We all together, We at the clubs together,

1694
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 3: were moving around. I played Autumn Leaves for Rihanna and

1695
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: she cried, oh he played at at least for Rihanna.

1696
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: She cried niggas like, I can't like. The records were

1697
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: so vicious that it was like people couldn't believe that

1698
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 3: niggas was creating this level of music. And that was

1699
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 3: my time to shine. That was my time to show

1700
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: the industry through the biggest artists in the world, that

1701
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 3: I was. And so that record Fine China changed everything

1702
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: because I went from that to executive producing this album.

1703
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: I did not I did. I did ten records on

1704
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 3: X on that album, and I named the album X

1705
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 3: with Diplo, Me, Diplo, Chris. We did the X, but

1706
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 3: we actually named the album X off this record that

1707
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 3: we did called X and it was life. That was

1708
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 3: life changing for me. That record changed my life. And

1709
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 3: then I went from that to doing j Lo's album,

1710
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: Fergie album, Usher, Rihann, everybody you could think of it

1711
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: just domino effect. Once they knew, oh he's him, and

1712
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 3: the executives can get around it no more. Once show

1713
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 3: artists are requested me, who did that? Well, who's the

1714
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 3: nigga that's always with Chris? Who's the nigga that just

1715
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: did that? Brought him? Because Chris Brown was in a

1716
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: place where nobody was trying to hear his shit no more. Yeah,

1717
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 3: there wasn't fucking with him. And then I said, well,

1718
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 3: why don't we do a Jackson record that is going

1719
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 3: to remind the world, like Michael Jackson was getting in

1720
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 3: bullshit every day, dude, whack old jack Oh this is this.

1721
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 3: But when he pressed play, oh, that ship went out

1722
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 3: the window. And we do a Michael record. And so

1723
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 3: when he did that, you know, he took a risk

1724
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 3: and he did the Michael record. They was right back

1725
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 3: on his dick.

1726
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 2: So now that we've gotten your full scope and your

1727
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: tipping points. Yeah, and I like that. I like that

1728
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 2: you got a little black listed in between. That's crazy.

1729
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 3: Tried after that it became bad. They couldn't do it on.

1730
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 2: Now you've been a successful Now became my best friend. Yeah.

1731
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Now they're all your best friends, know.

1732
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of those ones. That was all they was

1733
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 3: doing this. Who's on the phone, Oh yeah, tell him

1734
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 3: email me. They was doing that. Damn same niggas is

1735
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: hitting my line sixty dollars, my latist saying, is there

1736
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 3: can I get? Oh? Oh is this the same nigga

1737
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: that I didn't believe in me? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1738
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 3: I'm a link. Oh yeah, send them through. I'm dumb

1739
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 3: talking the niggas crazy too, don't get it twisted. I'm

1740
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: letting them. I'm reminding them that they didn't believe back then.

1741
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: But because I'm a scorpios, I can't. You can't forget. Yeah,

1742
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 3: you can't forget. I'm not gonna let you forget. But

1743
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 3: now I'll get over it. But you won't forget.

1744
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 2: I believe it. I'm very fair scorpios.

1745
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1746
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: But now now that you're you're you're killing it in

1747
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: the music game. You're also tapping into the entrepreneur game.

1748
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: You're doing that. I guess we're not going to talk

1749
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: about your ar.

1750
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 3: About skipping up till now. Yeah. Well yeah, now we

1751
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 3: now we thirteen Grammys later, and we just want to build.

1752
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: No, thirteen thirteen. I thought I was fifteen.

1753
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: No, I was at eleven, and then we're up for

1754
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 3: three right now, Okay, a fourteen. Yeah, that's that's all

1755
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's a hundred million records.

1756
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 2: We're here, We're here, yeah, right, over time. But I

1757
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: just want to make sure that I cover just kind

1758
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 2: of the today's standpoint, like what's going on with you? Now?

1759
01:28:58,920 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 3: We got rock.

1760
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Wireless, Yeah, Rockstar Wireless, ros Star Wireless.

1761
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, because you got a transition. So making

1762
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 3: millions of dollars and becoming a mogul in music gets

1763
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 3: you to a place, right, And that made all my

1764
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 3: some of my best friends, like flow Rider and different

1765
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 3: people that support me. Me and floor Rider used to

1766
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 3: sleep on the floor at Davonte's swing studio. Yeah, if

1767
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 3: you talked to floor Rider and be like you used

1768
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 3: to sleep on the floor at Me and flow Rider

1769
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 3: used to sleep on the floor at Davonte's swing studio

1770
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 3: and we were sharing burgers and Sharon Fries and shit

1771
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 3: like that. He got discovered, went to Miami and I

1772
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 3: think signed a trick that year, one of them out

1773
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 3: the blue. But we was all there, broke, busted in discussion.

1774
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 3: This is why floor Rider is one of my best

1775
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 3: friends in the world. And it just killed that that

1776
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 3: ninety million dollar deal with Celsius and all that time heat.

1777
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 3: That's one of my best friends. I love floor Rider

1778
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 3: to death. But we came from the bottom together. But

1779
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 3: a lot of the people that I came up with

1780
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,799
Speaker 3: and when I became a mogan whatever situate, they support

1781
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 3: me on a different scale because they've really seen what

1782
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: I went through to become something bigger and so tech.

1783
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,759
Speaker 3: I've always been in a tech it was my passion forever.

1784
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 3: Like we won the CS Award for Most Innovative Technology

1785
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen for the dual screen cell phone. Me

1786
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 3: and my partner Darius Allen, which I partnered in Rockster

1787
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 3: Wireless with was creating cell phones, selling cell phones, tablets

1788
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: with the projectors, doing stuff that people couldn't do early,

1789
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 3: and so I stick to the same code I start

1790
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 3: with you, I'm finished, but still my partner in things

1791
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: that we do all day. I was doing tech since

1792
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 3: I figured that tech was what's next, Crypto was what's next.

1793
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 3: I had a million dollars in crypto. I had million

1794
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 3: dollars in bitcoin when bitcoin was two thousand dollars. My

1795
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 3: boy DA put me up on a play. I made

1796
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 3: million dollars in bitcoin early. So I was on plays

1797
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 3: everything tech early, and I was always in it, and

1798
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 3: I was just honing creating. And so that's how I

1799
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 3: kind of got into tech. Because music will make you

1800
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 3: a certain amount of money, but it's a gateway drug.

1801
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 3: And the problem is people stay in music forever. Catalog

1802
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 3: publishing all that. That's cool, but it's limited. I take that.

1803
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 3: I've used that gateway drug to get into a much

1804
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 3: bigger atmosphere, and I use the connections and the people

1805
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 3: I've built this world with to This is how beats

1806
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: By Dre becomes a four billion dollar company. You take

1807
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 3: Jimmy Iveen starts dabbling in tech, he takes the doctor

1808
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 3: dres and now here it's the influence of this. So

1809
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 3: Chris Brown one hundred and fifty six million followers on

1810
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 3: just one platform. If that's your people and he pushes

1811
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 3: a button, you now, even if it's just ten percent,

1812
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 3: you got fifteen million users on a platform, you could

1813
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: already sell the platform just off them users at one percent,

1814
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: one point five million users on a platform. So once

1815
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 3: I started to understand and extra strategies, how to do

1816
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 3: reverse mergers and the shell companies, how to do pink sheets,

1817
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 3: how to sit there and run stocks from the top

1818
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 3: to the bottom, how to really understand the crypto markets,

1819
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 3: the NFT markets, how to mint, how to understand floors,

1820
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 3: where Ethereum went, where this is it? Solana all the coins?

1821
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 3: How to go through different situations. I study things and

1822
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 3: once I started understanding where the money was, I started

1823
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 3: to create tech companies on a scale that's like okay, music,

1824
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 3: tech influence all in one situation. Then that's how I

1825
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 3: got Rockstar Wireless. Did it with the head of T Mobile,

1826
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 3: Dan Thigerson, Mike Seffert and all of them, and they

1827
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 3: came in, They're like, yo, we support we don't have

1828
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 3: any minority NB and os let's tag team. So we

1829
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 3: locked in with them. Did that, did the biggest deal.

1830
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 3: We're the only black owned cell phone company and that's worldwide,

1831
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 3: and we have better rates than everybody else. Yeah, rasing

1832
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 3: everybody now.

1833
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 2: And now we know that I'm going to get a

1834
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 2: second line. Oh yeah, get you a second oneless.

1835
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 3: As you know, Mint Mobile just sold for one point

1836
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 3: four billion. That's how Ryan got his one point four billion,

1837
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 3: as he would have had to do a lot of

1838
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 3: movies to get that. But you know that tech takes

1839
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 3: you somewhere else. I also have Trinity Social, which TikTok

1840
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 3: is going out of style and they're about to get banned.

1841
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 3: So we created a social media platform that encompasses all

1842
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 3: of the platforms into one platform. That's why it's called Trinity.

1843
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 3: It's like the Father, the son Hoole. It's like all

1844
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 3: of the things in one is the Trinity. And so

1845
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 3: it's called Trinity Social. And we have a version of

1846
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 3: Clubhouse in there, a version of OnlyFans in there. We

1847
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 3: have everything that Instagram gives you from feeds, you can monetize,

1848
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 3: go lot, everything all inside one social media app. And

1849
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 3: so that's next stuff as well as loaded right now

1850
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 3: in your app store, download Trinity Social. You'll love it

1851
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 3: if you're tired of paying however much you're paying, and

1852
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 3: people paying three four five hundred dollars on cell phone bills.

1853
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 3: You can come to Rockstar wireless we given nineteen ninety nine. Like,

1854
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 3: I don't know what you want to do. I don't

1855
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 3: know if you beat that I pay for it.

1856
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: Wh at coming to play my phone way too hot,

1857
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 2: So we gotta gotta go.

1858
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,839
Speaker 3: And so I've been building heavy tech companies and running

1859
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 3: plays and now I'm kind of the bridge between tech

1860
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 3: companies and the music business. It's impossible to get to

1861
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 3: a Chris Brown, it's impossible to get to a Jennifer Lopez.

1862
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 3: It's and possible to get to a Fergie or a

1863
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 3: Prince Royce or even like certain basketball players certain and

1864
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 3: they're all my best friend. Like there's people I'm day

1865
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 3: to day with. So I bridge gaps between even other

1866
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 3: companies that I rock with, and we bridge gaps so

1867
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 3: that their companies can scale a lot faster than the

1868
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 3: traditional marketing of strategies, because that's really the new marketing strategy.

1869
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 3: Like influencers and so I have, you know, kind of

1870
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 3: ignorant amount of them, and so we go crazy and

1871
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 3: we're all friends, Like I only mess with people that

1872
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 3: I like, And so that's the whole situation, and I've

1873
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 3: just been scaling and just building from there. And that's

1874
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 3: how I you know, coming from nothing to something I

1875
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 3: saw that really happened. And when I tell somebody, I

1876
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 3: really was sleeping coming from nothing, that's something I really

1877
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 3: built it break by brick by brick by step.

1878
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 2: I think we just learned that just now. Hell Broke's

1879
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: head to lit to to really lit.

1880
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 1: So wealthy, I would say more wealthy.

1881
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Speaker 3: I'm still rich. I feel like I need to get

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Speaker 3: to I'm getting to wealthy once I exit you know,

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01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 3: two or three of these companies or even one of

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Speaker 3: even one of them, Uh, you know, it's going to

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01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 3: be a wealthy situation. But until then, I would say

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Speaker 3: rich because you know, for me, uh, until you're nine

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Speaker 3: ten figures, until you're in a one hundred million range,

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01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 3: like ten figures. Yeah, I touched ten figures in terms

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01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 3: of deals, but that's ten million, nine million. I know

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01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 3: that's a million eleven minute. But you're talking about people

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01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 3: are out here running around with billions and billions and

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01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 3: hundreds of me. So it's like for me, I'm still

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to where I need to get. I'm

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01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 3: like I'm pushing buttons. You know what I'm saying on

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Speaker 3: a different scale, And that's why I've set things up

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Speaker 3: to make sure that the exit strategies are built. Do

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Speaker 3: not build anything in your life and without an exit strategy,

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Speaker 3: and that's how you set yourself up for failure. And

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Speaker 3: when you learn how to build an exit strategy and

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Speaker 3: anything it is, you don't want to be tied to

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Speaker 3: something forever like that, get you know, unless it's now.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about people, the girl, you know whatever, family,

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Speaker 3: love and friends and that's different. But I'm talking about

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01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 3: companies because they're stressful. You build them, do it, and

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01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 3: then you let somebody become the machine and move and

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01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 3: you either sit back and just get residuals forever, or

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01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 3: you put it in a place where it's gone and

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01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 3: you win and you can relax. It's about buying an

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01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 3: island and you know, growing your own fruit, stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, nothing is something is a real thing.

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Speaker 1: For me, it is and well, I just want to

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for cooking for me. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and probably hands down one of the best storytellers, most animated.

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Speaker 1: I loved hearing your story and thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for taking time out of your day of course to

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Speaker 1: come down here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you. I'm sycause oh yeah, I'm the

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Speaker 3: AI goggles too.

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Speaker 2: He got the A I got and I'm obsessed with as.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm gonna be.

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Speaker 3: We got a bunch of different stuff.

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Speaker 1: Your I could be your test, the person that tests,

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Speaker 1: because I'll keep it.

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Speaker 3: But if you pass out, I don't know what to

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Speaker 3: I'm just.

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Speaker 2: You know, but I'm saying like I could be like

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Speaker 2: the critical reviewer. I'll be like, I'll keep it all

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Speaker 2: the way real, no filter.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna see. I just created a pet s D

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Speaker 3: program through sound therapy through frequent ancient frequencies like war

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Speaker 3: drums and waterfall and stuff. And I'll give you that

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Speaker 3: and see how you feel after going through like the

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Speaker 3: ptsd UH sound frequency. It's to to to calm like

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Speaker 3: for really for the military, for people that are overseas,

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Speaker 3: to calm their nerves when they're in the middle of Iraq.

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Speaker 3: You can zone out and jump into you know or

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Speaker 3: wherever you're at, jumping to a frequency therapy program that

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Speaker 3: actually is a real therapeutic situation that's happening, and you

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Speaker 3: can you know, select being wherever you want to be

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Speaker 3: on a beach or you know, wherever. And it's real time,

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Speaker 3: it's real, it's heavy, it's.

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Speaker 2: Crazy to try it. And I'm gonna be a reviewer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, please be a hard reviewer.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be excited about it too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the tech ain't gonna stop, so you

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Speaker 3: just stay tuned. I got I'm coming up with a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff create please do Yeah, rock star follow

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Speaker 3: me of course, rock star music R O C C

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Speaker 3: S C A R music on everything.

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Speaker 2: Then you heard it here first while Broke, peace out guys, Yes,

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Speaker 2: yes sir.

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Speaker 3: Please for more

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