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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September twenty second, twenty twenty sixteen, episode
Speaker 1: number twenty eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: Were life in s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star,
Speaker 1: got David Amber in their home setups as well, and
Speaker 1: we got about forty five minutes of Cowboys talk with
Speaker 1: you guys today. It is Tuesday, so it is a
Speaker 1: big picture day. We're gonna look at a couple different
Speaker 1: items around this team and give you some opinions on
Speaker 1: what we think of the team overall. Some areas of
Speaker 1: concern is really where we're gonna focus. And they were
Speaker 1: particularly to particular to some areas that we didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to talk about yesterday on the show as
Speaker 1: we were recapping the game. And so let's let's jump
Speaker 1: right in. I guess the first position I want to
Speaker 1: bring up that was going into this game an area
Speaker 1: of concern, and I'll be interested to see if you
Speaker 1: guys still feel the same level of concern is the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle position. Dak was only sacked one time in
Speaker 1: this game. It was a first quarter blitz and that
Speaker 1: led to the sack fumble, and as far as I
Speaker 1: can tell from rewatching it, it looked like Zeke was
Speaker 1: maybe more the culprit. Maybe you can make the case
Speaker 1: that Connor Williams should have blocked down and that guy
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been released up the middle. Either way, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the tackles. I don't think that were involved in
Speaker 1: that particular situation. Dat being said, how do you assess
Speaker 1: the play of the two offensive tackles from Sunday's game,
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele and Brandon Night Nichol's start with you, Well,
Speaker 1: I thought they struggled, and I think that those numbers
Speaker 1: are deceiving a little. I think Dak was running for
Speaker 1: his life. I think that's why Dalton Schultz had so
Speaker 1: many catches, just because he's had to get the ball
Speaker 1: out quick. They did settle down. I thought they did
Speaker 1: better job. Terrence Steel that's twice. Now he's kind of
Speaker 1: settled down later in the game, but you know, you
Speaker 1: got to hold on for one more game here and
Speaker 1: that Lyle should come back after that, and I think
Speaker 1: Tyrn could come back this week. So my level of
Speaker 1: concern is lower than it was because they were able
Speaker 1: to win a game. I mean, think about that. When
Speaker 1: does the team ever put up five hundred yards five
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards or whatever with both tackles starting
Speaker 1: just their second game. Ever, I thought that was that
Speaker 1: was interesting. Amber, what do you think? Honestly, I'm way
Speaker 1: less concerned than I initially was prior to going into
Speaker 1: the game. I think they did a good job. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think they handle what they needed to handle. Yes,
Speaker 1: there were some mistakes, but at the same time, example,
Speaker 1: the penalty, it wasn't fortunate, but you know, like even
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith Lyalla Collins, they have guying penalties in the past,
Speaker 1: so it happens. It happens. You don't want them to
Speaker 1: the opposing team to score on you from a penalty,
Speaker 1: but it's just part of the game. I think that
Speaker 1: they did as best as they could as backup, so
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not as concerned, specially knowing that it won't
Speaker 1: be for the rest of the year. You know, if
Speaker 1: they was for the whole season, then maybe we got
Speaker 1: a problem here. But at this but right now, knowing
Speaker 1: that Lyelle and Tyrone are gonna be coming back, I
Speaker 1: think I'm okay, Dave, how did you assess steal a Knight?
Speaker 1: I feel a little vindicated by Brandon Knight's success. I
Speaker 1: mean I feel like, you know, me and me and
Speaker 1: Nick have been driving that train a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: back heading into training camp, I was surprised that he
Speaker 1: didn't get the first look against the Rams at right tackle.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought they played really well given the circumstances. Now,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't prefer it that Dak not only was running
Speaker 1: for his life and had to check down to Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz a few times. I mean, he got he got rocked,
Speaker 1: even on some completions. The long ball to Cooper, he
Speaker 1: took a pretty nasty shot, which obviously he's a tough guy. Um,
Speaker 1: so do I want that for a ton of games?
Speaker 1: Not really? But um, you know, Seattle's pass rush has
Speaker 1: been struggling through two weeks, so you know, it's nice
Speaker 1: to think that if you have to do that again
Speaker 1: this weekend, you might be able to survive it, I thought,
Speaker 1: I mean, they played well enough that you can survive it, obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's getting really scary how much the two of you
Speaker 1: guys are thinking alike like this is this is happening
Speaker 1: way too frequently to Dave and Nick park agreeing on
Speaker 1: things like that's not the fun of this show. Y'all
Speaker 1: need to be at odds about something, right, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: we go, but I do go ahead. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: Amber's Amber's doing a good job of taking the other side. Well,
Speaker 1: Amber's always gonna be That's what they know about. Ag Hey,
Speaker 1: if you want me to play that role, I can
Speaker 1: play that role. I can argue the other way. Did
Speaker 1: you see that play where your dad had to go
Speaker 1: out to the tent and get tended by the medical staff,
Speaker 1: and then we had to see Andy Dalton go into
Speaker 1: the game. That's a big worry because they could have
Speaker 1: gone bad and maybe we're talking about a different story
Speaker 1: here for the rest of the year. So I guess
Speaker 1: you can argue the other way. That was that was
Speaker 1: a pretty That was a pretty cheap shot by my guy,
Speaker 1: Dion Jones. I mean that was a rollout and he
Speaker 1: hit him pretty late after the throw, so Dak took
Speaker 1: a lot of shots and his protection was not amazing,
Speaker 1: But that that play is not on the tackles, though.
Speaker 1: I guess the point I'm making and that I would make,
Speaker 1: is the fact that these guys, as you said, Nick,
Speaker 1: was this was their second start for both of them.
Speaker 1: These are undrafted guys. And the fact that you only
Speaker 1: ended up giving up one sec. I know, Dak is amazing,
Speaker 1: but still you had two tackles who were starting an
Speaker 1: NFL game for only the first second time in their
Speaker 1: careers and we're undrafted players. That says something about the
Speaker 1: level of play. And by the way, I think we
Speaker 1: got to give a little bit of deference there to
Speaker 1: the coaches as well, because part of being able to
Speaker 1: protect your quarterback in those kind of situations is what
Speaker 1: are you doing, how are you running the offense, what
Speaker 1: kind of plays are you running? How do you keep
Speaker 1: the defense off balance? Or that you can't just take
Speaker 1: advantage of those two positions. So I think all that
Speaker 1: stuff matters, and I think you've got to give credit
Speaker 1: to these tackles and to these coaches. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with them real quick, Dave. I want to get I
Speaker 1: assume you listen to Jerry this morning on the fan.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what you what you're hearing right
Speaker 1: now as far as the you know where they are
Speaker 1: with Tyrant and maybe where they are with Lyle. If
Speaker 1: you've heard anything more on Lyle and when he's expected back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well not so much Lyle. I mean, we know he
Speaker 1: can't play Sunday. Yeah, I'll be interested to see how
Speaker 1: quickly you know he's eligible to come off. I are
Speaker 1: after the Seahawks game. That doesn't necessarily mean he will,
Speaker 1: so we probably need to start putting some lines in
Speaker 1: the water about that Tyring. Jerry said something pretty interesting,
Speaker 1: which you know, maybe isn't a huge surprise, but he
Speaker 1: basically said, like, you know, if we were just determined,
Speaker 1: come hell or high water to play Tyr and we
Speaker 1: probably could have done it on Sunday, but we held
Speaker 1: him out in the interest of having him better for
Speaker 1: the long term, whether that's Seattle or just moving down
Speaker 1: the season. It is. It's stingers, which actually, ironically enough,
Speaker 1: he suffered a really bad stinger against Atlanta in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: the other one that they won at the end with
Speaker 1: a fuel goal. So this has been a thing for him,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's not feeling great, so they held
Speaker 1: him out in the interest of all right by not
Speaker 1: asking you to play on this on three days rest.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we can get it to settle down enough to
Speaker 1: where it doesn't bother you all season long. Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: said yesterday he in the same sentence, he said, we
Speaker 1: think Tyrone's got a great shot to play Sunday. We
Speaker 1: also think he's a game time decision. So those two
Speaker 1: ideas don't really mesh. So, I mean, it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be another week of watching the injury report,
Speaker 1: but it is interesting to think that you know, they're
Speaker 1: obviously making these decisions with an eye on the entire
Speaker 1: schedule and not just a week to week basis. And
Speaker 1: I think it helps that steal And Night practice last week,
Speaker 1: and that will probably be the case this week too.
Speaker 1: I would imagine if they're going to get a lot
Speaker 1: of practice reps, even if Tyrant is supposed to play,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll need to be out there
Speaker 1: a lot, So I would imagine those two guys are
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of snaps. And that all
Speaker 1: being said, I'll to go to Amber first on this one.
Speaker 1: What is your level? Are you more comfortable going into
Speaker 1: this game? If you have to start steal and night
Speaker 1: then you were, say last week based upon what you
Speaker 1: saw in the game against the Falcons for sure, because
Speaker 1: prior to the game, like I said earlier, my level
Speaker 1: of concern was very, very high. And going into this game,
Speaker 1: I think that one you expect player to get better
Speaker 1: as they play games. So I think that that game
Speaker 1: last weekend was just a perfect practice time to get
Speaker 1: better in real game action rather than just practicing. So
Speaker 1: I expect them to be able to hold up. And
Speaker 1: even if Tyring comes back in, and I wonder, I mean,
Speaker 1: if he does come back in, do they let him
Speaker 1: play all throughout the game or do they try to
Speaker 1: eat him in and rotate him? So I do feel
Speaker 1: more comfortable, but it's still always an area of concern
Speaker 1: when when you don't have the old all players that
Speaker 1: you are used to having. More comfortable Yeah, and I'll
Speaker 1: answer to that part. I mean, I think if he
Speaker 1: comes back, I don't believe there'll be any rotating. I
Speaker 1: just don't think they do that with tackles with with
Speaker 1: him now. I mean, it makes sense though it's really
Speaker 1: is the only position where you don't do that. You
Speaker 1: don't like rotating. I guess squreback as well. Um, but
Speaker 1: I you know, I think it's this is a very
Speaker 1: interesting dilemma that they're in because it's just early in
Speaker 1: the season to be battling with this, and you know
Speaker 1: it's going to be something that they have to deal
Speaker 1: with and their bye week is way down the road here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel more comfortable. I mean, the more
Speaker 1: steel and night play, I would feel more comfortable with night.
Speaker 1: I just feel like he's gonna fight you. He's he
Speaker 1: wants to like turn it into a fist fight if
Speaker 1: he can. And I think that he might have some
Speaker 1: limitations athletically, but I think that that guy will will
Speaker 1: get the job done too. And you know, pride takes
Speaker 1: over and all that stuff. I think he's a pretty
Speaker 1: I think he's turned it into a pretty good player.
Speaker 1: You made the comparison a couple maybeen last week between
Speaker 1: him and Mark Colombo. I'm starting to see that too.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the m O on Mark Colombo. Although
Speaker 1: Mark Colombo was a much higher pay I mean, the
Speaker 1: first round thick and so he had a lot more
Speaker 1: pedigree coming in but it's that type of mentality where
Speaker 1: he was just going to brawl with you for sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: And that's just kind of how I pay Footballston that
Speaker 1: after the game, um night, I asked him about being
Speaker 1: a like a barroom brawler. He was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I like to do. I want to
Speaker 1: brawl with you. F'm like, okay, we'll take that, all right, Dave,
Speaker 1: you feel more comfortable. I don't want to steal a
Speaker 1: segment from our Thursday show when we talk about the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: but if there's a team where you're gonna be compromised
Speaker 1: to tackle, this is probably the one. Like these these
Speaker 1: guys don't have edge rushers, which I know that's famous
Speaker 1: last words because as soon as you say that, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have five sacks. But I mean their fan base
Speaker 1: was Their fan base was clamoring all off season for
Speaker 1: Clowney and Everson Griffin. Ironically, Everson Griffin winds up here,
Speaker 1: uh they I mean, they don't have a proven guy
Speaker 1: that their DPR Bruce Irvin towards ACL the other night,
Speaker 1: so they don't have him. It's our old, our old friend.
Speaker 1: Benson Mayowa is their most proven pass rusher right now.
Speaker 1: So if if you're gonna be compromised to tackle, this
Speaker 1: is a favorable game to be doing it now. Week four,
Speaker 1: when Miles Garrett comes to town, I'm starting to get nervous.
Speaker 1: But in this game, I feel all right, yeah, No.
Speaker 1: The big difference between whatever they got right now and
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. I think he's one of the premier pass rushers,
Speaker 1: young pass rushers in this league. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take an early quick break. When we come back. I
Speaker 1: want to jump into this defense. We got a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about on the defense. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: both the pass rush and we're gonna talk about the secondary.
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Speaker 1: It is the second segment of the Break. We are
Speaker 1: alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Stop and
Speaker 1: we're talking about areas of concern. Today we talked about
Speaker 1: the offensive tackles. I think we all came away feeling
Speaker 1: a little bit better this week than we may have
Speaker 1: felt going into the game. Now let's flip over to
Speaker 1: the defense, where they've had some real issues at times
Speaker 1: and games. For the most part, I would think throughout
Speaker 1: most both of the games they've played, I don't think
Speaker 1: we would necessarily say they've had a great start here
Speaker 1: to the season. That being said, I looked at just
Speaker 1: some of the moments in that game this last week
Speaker 1: where particularly the secondary had some issues. You look at
Speaker 1: the forty two yard past Hayden Hurst where he was
Speaker 1: wide open down the field. Looked like there was a
Speaker 1: mix up between the safety and the linebacker on who
Speaker 1: was gonna get him. Nobody seemed to figure that out,
Speaker 1: and he's wide open down the field for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: You had Cheeto being beat on the twenty two yard
Speaker 1: touchdown to Calvin Ridley. You had Jordan being beat on
Speaker 1: the three yard down touchdown to Ridley. Again, Cheeto got
Speaker 1: beat by Julio and then missed the tackle. They gave
Speaker 1: up the nineteen yard gain to Julio and that ends
Speaker 1: up leading to a touchdown. That all being said, how
Speaker 1: do you assess the play of the secondary? And I
Speaker 1: want you to take two weeks in total, looking at
Speaker 1: what they did first against the Rams and then what
Speaker 1: happened against the Falcons, and tell me how you assess
Speaker 1: this secondary. Nick, let's start with you. I think it's
Speaker 1: been okay. I think it's been exposed because when we
Speaker 1: get to the when we get to the party in
Speaker 1: your little book there about about the defensive line that'll
Speaker 1: be bad. So what you think when you were reading that,
Speaker 1: keep scrolling. I'm like, you need to write a book
Speaker 1: every day. Sorry, But I do believe that it's been okay.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that they're having a hard time
Speaker 1: with no pass rush. I mean that secondary those guys,
Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna get there, right, they need a pass
Speaker 1: rush and they're not good enough to be chasing Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and Ridley around all day long. All right, Amber,
Speaker 1: what you got. That's exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I hate just keep agreeing with especially nig but Dave
Speaker 1: and I are usually kind of on the same page.
Speaker 1: But no, that's exactly what I think they've They've been
Speaker 1: just okay. They've made a lot of mistakes here, and
Speaker 1: they're big ones that cost the Cowboys. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I feel that I'm more concerned about the
Speaker 1: pass rush and what they're doing there. And you know, Derek,
Speaker 1: you kept saying this is where where we're gonna get
Speaker 1: all this help for the secondary, but it hasn't happened, honestly.
Speaker 1: And as far as Jordan Lewis, it was disappointing to
Speaker 1: see him give up that that touchdown play. I always
Speaker 1: expect him to play better, and he's played better, but
Speaker 1: I think that's also just a product of him not
Speaker 1: being able to have a full training camp and just
Speaker 1: being out there practicing enough times. But and also I
Speaker 1: am have you guys heard anything about Cheeto and the injury.
Speaker 1: I know, he like walked out of the game with
Speaker 1: some hamstring hamstring issue there. Yeah, he left at the
Speaker 1: very end with a hammy. You know. Mike McCarthy's made
Speaker 1: it pretty clear he doesn't love talking specifics, so I
Speaker 1: really don't know the severity of it. Obviously, the injury
Speaker 1: report will be out tomorrow. Yeah, well we'll see how
Speaker 1: that how severe that is. But it just another thing,
Speaker 1: another thing to add to the defense and in their secondary, Dave,
Speaker 1: how do you assess the secondary? I'll go against the
Speaker 1: grain a little bit because I feel like I'm always
Speaker 1: the guy, you know, I hate to say making excuses,
Speaker 1: but I'm usually the guy that's defending dbs because it's
Speaker 1: such a hard position to play, and you know, people
Speaker 1: tend to hold the losses in, you know, they hold
Speaker 1: it over your head and never credit the successes. So like,
Speaker 1: I'm never going to criticize a guy, like if the
Speaker 1: coverage is good, and you give to Van Jefferson just
Speaker 1: a beautifully thrown ball. I'm not gonna kill you for that.
Speaker 1: I thought Calvin Ridley's first touchdown Cheetoh was he was
Speaker 1: like one step from you know, he dives and reaches
Speaker 1: and he was like one step from king it up.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill a guy for that either.
Speaker 1: Like it's a hard position. But what troubles you is
Speaker 1: the busts. Like I mean, come on, guys, Hayden Hurst
Speaker 1: is a first round pick. The Falcons traded for him
Speaker 1: to replace Hooper. He's gonna be a focal point of
Speaker 1: their offense, and they've just lost him. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't give up touchdowns in the NFL
Speaker 1: where the guys scoring doesn't have anyone around him. So
Speaker 1: that and to get you know, the play on the
Speaker 1: goal line where Jordan seemed to lose his man as well.
Speaker 1: I think that was Ridley's second touchdown. That's the stuff
Speaker 1: you can't. You gotta clean that up because you're gonna
Speaker 1: give up plays when the coverage is good. That's the
Speaker 1: nature of the game right now. You just so, I
Speaker 1: mean to have three big busts where people just didn't
Speaker 1: know what they were doing in the same game, that
Speaker 1: that's what troubles you, and that's gonna get you beat
Speaker 1: when you don't put together a miracle in the fourth quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say this, of all those problems, and by
Speaker 1: the way, I do think they're all problems. Of all
Speaker 1: those problem though, what I've seen from Digs over the
Speaker 1: first two weeks gets me really excited about him as
Speaker 1: a cornerback for this team. Because I was telling my
Speaker 1: wife this about the play that he broke up with
Speaker 1: Julio down field. To me, I look at that and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he didn't necessarily make that interception, but
Speaker 1: I think just if you watch the way that he
Speaker 1: was able to recover and get in position to actually
Speaker 1: break it up, it was a really really great play
Speaker 1: if he gets to the point. And by the way,
Speaker 1: one of the things that they liked about him is
Speaker 1: he is a guy that actually can catch. Now. I know,
Speaker 1: these first two weeks, he's had two opportunities and he
Speaker 1: hasn't come up with either one of them. But once
Speaker 1: he gets that part down, I think I'm seeing things
Speaker 1: right now that suggests he's gonna be a really good player.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's not gonna get beat. And as
Speaker 1: you were saying, Dave, cornerbacks get beat, that's a part
Speaker 1: of it. You're not gonna beat. These are NFL wide receivers.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are really good wide receivers. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna win every time. But if you can win
Speaker 1: some of the time, and if some of those times
Speaker 1: you can turn the ball over, then that's when you
Speaker 1: step into that elite level of cornerbacks in this league.
Speaker 1: And I'm starting to see some things that makes me
Speaker 1: think he has a shot at that. Whether he gets
Speaker 1: there or not, not quite sure, but I do think
Speaker 1: he has a shot at being one of those better
Speaker 1: upper upper end cornerbacks in the NFL. You know, if
Speaker 1: Cheeto doesn't play this week, which that could be, you know,
Speaker 1: a big concern obviously, because you've already got Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: on injured reserve, you just have Jordan Lewis coming back DIGS.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to throw in Brandon
Speaker 1: Carr back into the cornerback mix there, even though they've
Speaker 1: got him listed on the depth chart at safety. Uh
Speaker 1: not that not that they haven't changed the depth chart
Speaker 1: around already on us, but I think that he could
Speaker 1: he could definitely. I mean, I'm not ready to put
Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson out there on Tyler Lockett and that beast
Speaker 1: from Ole Miss what's his name? Woof metcats got? I
Speaker 1: mean he's he's a tight end, running deep rout is
Speaker 1: what he is? Yeah, guy's sick. Yeah, we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about Anthony Brown? What is that injury? Like he almost
Speaker 1: just kind of crept up and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's on IR Like is he it's just one of
Speaker 1: those that's ir to return in three weeks? The expectation
Speaker 1: or is this like I offer the season? Like, what's
Speaker 1: what's the deal? I mean, ribs, ribs for three weeks?
Speaker 1: Like what happened in practice? Is he fighting Apollo Creed?
Speaker 1: I mean, like what happened? I don't seriously, like do
Speaker 1: you I don't know. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: with this with just I r out out for three
Speaker 1: yea three games. It's kind of crept up. Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you guys know anything about that last week or
Speaker 1: that did that? Really? Was it surprising to you guys?
Speaker 1: It was to me. No, Well, he showed up on
Speaker 1: the injury report on Friday, But I mean, guys, guys,
Speaker 1: get dinged up in practice, Like if if fans could
Speaker 1: see practice and see how you know, it's still football,
Speaker 1: Like guys go down like fans would have panic attacks
Speaker 1: every day, so you see, you know, I saw Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown pop up on the injury report on Friday. I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, he probably took a helmet to the
Speaker 1: ribs or something whatever. But but he goes on I R.
Speaker 1: And the thing that makes it tricky is typically you
Speaker 1: only get a couple of guys that you're allowed to
Speaker 1: bring back, so you know, you can ask people and say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, is this is designated a return. They don't
Speaker 1: have to do that this year. Yeah, So as of
Speaker 1: right now, I'm not sure of the severity. Obviously, it
Speaker 1: means a b will be gone at least until you know,
Speaker 1: he can't come back until after week five. And I
Speaker 1: would like to think, I mean rib injuries, you're you
Speaker 1: would like to think unless he just absolutely broke a
Speaker 1: bunch of his ribs, you would think it's you know,
Speaker 1: a three to six week injury. I guess. So I
Speaker 1: leaned toward thinking he'll be back, but you know, not
Speaker 1: any time to help him against Russell Wilson. Unfortunately. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on to the front end of the defense.
Speaker 1: Cowboys were able to get one sack this last game.
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin gets that sack. It was a time in
Speaker 1: the game when I think they really needed it, so
Speaker 1: I was a big play for him and for this defense.
Speaker 1: That all being said, I have a basically a very
Speaker 1: simple question for you guys, what's wrong with the pass rush?
Speaker 1: Because I think we all expected more at this point. Amber,
Speaker 1: Let's start with you, what's wrong with this pass rush? Shore?
Speaker 1: I wish I knew what was wrong with the pass rush, jeez,
Speaker 1: and I wish they knew, because again, big, big expectations
Speaker 1: for this pass rush, a lot of talent there, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately they're just not being able to get the job done.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know what exactly is happening. We
Speaker 1: talk about DeMarcus Lawrence, a guy that you keep seeing
Speaker 1: fans asking about him and what's going on? Why is
Speaker 1: he not playing at the level he should be playing at?
Speaker 1: And again that was another question last year, but this
Speaker 1: year specifically, my concern is that you always talk about
Speaker 1: when you got a great guy, you expect him even
Speaker 1: if he's getting blocked, you expect that person to be
Speaker 1: able to create more opportunities for the rest of the line,
Speaker 1: and that's not happening. There are several guys that are
Speaker 1: very talented guys, but at the same time, I'm not
Speaker 1: being able to see any other opportunities being created for
Speaker 1: the other guys in the line. So I wish I
Speaker 1: knew exactly what the problem was, but I don't, and
Speaker 1: it is very concerning for me because I was expecting
Speaker 1: a lot more, and I was expecting because of everything
Speaker 1: I hear from Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones. How oh,
Speaker 1: we trust that the defensive line is going to be
Speaker 1: able to help our secondary. Well, I'm sorry, but it's
Speaker 1: not happening. So I hope they're they're able to fix
Speaker 1: it pretty soon. And I still don't know what's happening
Speaker 1: with de Marcus Lawrence as far as the injury, because
Speaker 1: I know he I saw the report that he came
Speaker 1: out of the game. I forgot what they we're looking at.
Speaker 1: I don't remember Danny, so hopefully that that's not something
Speaker 1: that we see tomorrow pop up. And then here we
Speaker 1: are with a bigger problem of injuries added up to
Speaker 1: the list of guys that are injured. The key guys
Speaker 1: that are injured for these upcoming games. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: hope Dave and Nick have better answers. Well. According I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, according to Jerry Jones, he said
Speaker 1: this morning on his radio call that as far as
Speaker 1: his health, DeMarcus Lawrence is fine. He said, he may
Speaker 1: be nicked up a little bit, but his health is fine.
Speaker 1: This is not a situation where he feels like DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence is injured to the point where he can't play
Speaker 1: and can't play well. That was again, those are the
Speaker 1: words of Jerry. But but you know, for example, you
Speaker 1: hear certain injuries. For example, Chris Jones, I was just
Speaker 1: recently finding out this year about the injury that he
Speaker 1: was dealing with last year and he was playing. And
Speaker 1: even though there is obviously very different positions here, but
Speaker 1: you hear it all the time about guys that are
Speaker 1: dealing with certain type of injury and although they're still
Speaker 1: able to play, it does it does affect them in
Speaker 1: the game and the level that they're able to perform.
Speaker 1: So even though he might be fine to playing to
Speaker 1: the game, I'm still that's going to be in the
Speaker 1: back of my mind us to how well he can
Speaker 1: deal with that injury during an actual game. This reminds
Speaker 1: me of the movie The Program where the coach walks
Speaker 1: up to the player and says, are you injured? Are
Speaker 1: you hurt? Because guess what, in football, everybody's hurt. Like
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of playing football. You're going to
Speaker 1: be hurt. Injured means you can't play. And it sounds
Speaker 1: like right here, what Jerry at least is saying is
Speaker 1: that DeMarcus is hurt, not injured, hurt. That movie came
Speaker 1: out in ninety three. You and I got that. I
Speaker 1: don't know they've seen that, haven't today. I've yeah, I've
Speaker 1: I mean, and I've heard I've heard the line. I've
Speaker 1: heard all of that stuff. I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: love it. It's a it's a fun interesting paradox is.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody gets dinged up. Everybody's dealing with something.
Speaker 1: Number One, teams don't want to talk about it because
Speaker 1: they don't want to give away, you know, things that
Speaker 1: might compromise them. And two guys know they got a
Speaker 1: gut through it. But then when they take criticism, it's like,
Speaker 1: well I'm dealing with this, this, that, and the other.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, either you play to do. All
Speaker 1: I can do is comment on what I'm watching. Yeah, actually, no,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's very very interesting timing that we're
Speaker 1: talking about this, because Everson Griffin has actually been waging
Speaker 1: in on it on Twitter this morning. Yeah, and no,
Speaker 1: this is this is actually interesting. Like I love this response.
Speaker 1: So you know, our good friend Jeff Kavanaugh was watching
Speaker 1: the game this morning and he said, you know, Everson
Speaker 1: Griffin really hasn't been playing well, and Everson took exception
Speaker 1: to it, and I actually appreciate rather than just he
Speaker 1: actually kind of gave some detail in these Twitter replies.
Speaker 1: So I'm reading from him. He said. You know, he says,
Speaker 1: I get that it's week two. How many injuries were
Speaker 1: there in the league last Sunday, kind of referring to
Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, it's a short preseason, lack
Speaker 1: of practice time. He says, let's talk about playing well
Speaker 1: at the end of the year instead of week two.
Speaker 1: I get that everyone has a job to do, but
Speaker 1: in this unique year of football, it's all about the
Speaker 1: trend line, which I think is really interesting. So if
Speaker 1: you're asking it's wrong pass rush, it's probably I mean,
Speaker 1: it sounds like an excuse but it seems like it
Speaker 1: holds water that they haven't had a lot of time
Speaker 1: to work together. Everson Griffin didn't start practicing until eight
Speaker 1: days before the end of training camp. I guess Tank
Speaker 1: has something bothering his knee. And even Mike Nolan said
Speaker 1: yesterday and his availability with the media, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: our pass rush needs to get better as at working
Speaker 1: together as one unit, not just guys winning individual matchups,
Speaker 1: but kind of working as a cohesive group. And when
Speaker 1: you think about the complete lack of playing time that
Speaker 1: these guys have had together, it makes sense that they're
Speaker 1: not in sync. And now the flip side of that
Speaker 1: coin is, guess what nobody cares. Nobody cares about any
Speaker 1: of that because y'all are all big names, and you're
Speaker 1: paid very well, and you got to get to the
Speaker 1: quarterback and you didn't do it very well against a
Speaker 1: very slow quarterback in Matt Ryan. So how am I
Speaker 1: supposed to have confidence that you're going to do it
Speaker 1: against Udini? Because that's what Russell Wilson is. So I
Speaker 1: get where Everson Griffin is coming from, and I understand
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of factors getting in the
Speaker 1: way of just hitting the ground running. I bet there'll
Speaker 1: be a lot better in Week ten than they are
Speaker 1: right now. But that doesn't matter. You gotta find ways
Speaker 1: to win football games, and sacking the quarterback is a
Speaker 1: big part of that. So that was a mouthful, but
Speaker 1: I think I covered it no, And I think it
Speaker 1: also comes with the territory when you are highly paid,
Speaker 1: when you are when expectations are really high. You look
Speaker 1: at that those pass rushers. I think we all watching
Speaker 1: during training camp believed that that was going to be
Speaker 1: the strength of that defense. And if the defense was
Speaker 1: gonna be any way better than it was last year,
Speaker 1: it was going to be because of those three guys
Speaker 1: in particular. And so there is an expectation, and I think,
Speaker 1: be honest with you, when they want when they want
Speaker 1: more money, they throw it out there that there are
Speaker 1: those kinds of players. So I think you can't have
Speaker 1: it both ways. You gotta have to say you have
Speaker 1: to step up to the occasion when it's time to perform. Nick,
Speaker 1: what do you think of this pass rush? Um? I
Speaker 1: think I got asked on Twitter in the game, where
Speaker 1: is this pass rush? And I said, for Skull, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the Ford center and that's where that's where
Speaker 1: it was. That's where we saw it, and that's where
Speaker 1: they were there wasn't I haven't seen it since then.
Speaker 1: Uh I am. I am glad that the tweet I
Speaker 1: was about to fire off that said I thought they
Speaker 1: signed Everson Griffin. I didn't do that. I decided not
Speaker 1: to do that. You know, it was like midway through
Speaker 1: the third quarter. I was like, I thought they signed
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin. But then I was like, man, that's fine
Speaker 1: because he'll probably come up with a big play. I
Speaker 1: even thought that thankfully did um but um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think Amber and David Wright about all all that,
Speaker 1: all that they said, I mean, it's just this, it's
Speaker 1: on them, this is this is what they keep adding to. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would have been nice to have Gerald McCoy. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he would help there in the middle, because
Speaker 1: I think the best guy that is getting back there
Speaker 1: is Tristan Hill. Now he's not doing a lot with it,
Speaker 1: but I see him back there a lot. He's disruptive,
Speaker 1: and that's what you want there in the middle. You
Speaker 1: want somebody's disruptive. Yeah, so they they've got to get better.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, I thought what Jerry Jones said, if
Speaker 1: he said that on the radio today, I think that's
Speaker 1: I think it's a message. I mean, I think Jerry
Speaker 1: would would not say it that way if he wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to say he's fine. He might have a little
Speaker 1: bit here and there, but he's fine. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: probably thinking about his check book there and he's fine.
Speaker 1: He needs to be out there, don't get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take our final book when we
Speaker 1: come back. I want to go ahead, go ahead, Amber.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask, who would you say is
Speaker 1: the best defensive player currently on the whole defense Smithy,
Speaker 1: which I was gonna say. The irony, the irony of
Speaker 1: me saying that the pass rush will be a lot
Speaker 1: better in week ten than it is right now, is
Speaker 1: that a guy who hasn't played since twenty fifteen is
Speaker 1: the best defender on this team right now. Like there's
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's tough. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's even close. I don't even think it's close. Nick No,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's probably it's probably Aldon Smith, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean I don't know. I think it'll be
Speaker 1: Jaalen Smith Wents. All said and done, huh yeah, Jed,
Speaker 1: what was that? But I think it'll be all said
Speaker 1: and done, he's gonna be the best player in the YEP.
Speaker 1: I saw a swipe he got. He got one too.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not saying I don't think
Speaker 1: Jalen can get better as the season goes on. But
Speaker 1: I don't see anything right now that suggests to me
Speaker 1: that by the end of the season he'll be better
Speaker 1: than Aldon Smith. He'll be better. I think Tank is
Speaker 1: a guy that maybe he'sn't showing up right now. And
Speaker 1: by the way, when we say not showing up, go
Speaker 1: back to watch the beginning of that game, that first series,
Speaker 1: that was the Tank Show. And that's that's why. That's
Speaker 1: why people have the expectations, is because there are moments
Speaker 1: in games where you see it and you're like, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That's why they pay him the
Speaker 1: big bucks. It's just in other moments it's not there.
Speaker 1: But that that first series, he made some outstanding plays
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean just his ability to be able
Speaker 1: to get around blocks, get off blocks and then make
Speaker 1: a tackle like he made some really good plays. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I think there are a lot there are
Speaker 1: probably four or five guys out within and have a
Speaker 1: chance of being the best player on this defense. Before
Speaker 1: I would get to Jake again, I know we're going
Speaker 1: to break. But Mike Nolan knows how to coach defense.
Speaker 1: He knows how to figure things out. No, he does.
Speaker 1: He's been around too long not to know he knows
Speaker 1: how to coach defense. He's trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: he's got here. Is this the same d Law he
Speaker 1: saw on tape, the same Griffin, the same Poe, all
Speaker 1: that stuff you watch. They'll start mixing in some blitzes
Speaker 1: and things like that here and there to be disruptive.
Speaker 1: He's been in this league too long not to figure
Speaker 1: it out on a week to week basis. You know,
Speaker 1: I think the lack of preseason, lack of training camp,
Speaker 1: some of those things. I think he'll start to turn
Speaker 1: things around. All right, let's go to our final break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back now. We're gonna talk coaching, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk special teams and coaching and how that all
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Speaker 1: talk about coaching a little bit, and I want to
Speaker 1: talk about it from two different facets. I first want
Speaker 1: to start and talk a little bit about special teams,
Speaker 1: and they brought in a coach Fossil as what most
Speaker 1: people consider one of the better special teams coaches in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I think through two games, the one
Speaker 1: thing that we've seen is he has ideas like that's
Speaker 1: the one thing about special teams. You look at some
Speaker 1: teams and special teams is really just like kick the
Speaker 1: ball off, try to make sure nobody scores on you, like,
Speaker 1: just keep the status quo. It seems like his philosophy
Speaker 1: on this is we can change games, like we can
Speaker 1: make things happen, and his head coach buys into it.
Speaker 1: They've had two fake punts that they've tried, having converted
Speaker 1: either one, but they tried. They had obviously the biggest
Speaker 1: play of the game in my opinion on Sunday, which
Speaker 1: was the onside kick, where again they did something that
Speaker 1: you haven't seen teams do the way he kicked the ball.
Speaker 1: There they call it, I've heard called the water watermelon kick.
Speaker 1: But you know the way they kicked the ball, it's
Speaker 1: new and different. That all being said, how would you assess,
Speaker 1: at least what you've seen the philosophy with regards to
Speaker 1: special teams and being willing to try more things and
Speaker 1: be a bit more aggressive. Let's start first with you, Nick.
Speaker 1: I think you know he's innovative. That's all he does.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just lives and breathes the mean he's
Speaker 1: being special teams, trying to trying to one up the rules. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I say that, like, okay, this is the this
Speaker 1: is the new rule for special I mean for onside kicks.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get this. The players can't have a
Speaker 1: running start. You have to do something creative, do something
Speaker 1: slow that will work. Try to play mind tricks on
Speaker 1: the four guys that that won't actually touch the ball
Speaker 1: when they could. I mean, dude, whatever you've got to do,
Speaker 1: figure out how to get that ball to go ten
Speaker 1: and a half yards. But I thought, you know, I
Speaker 1: just think he's he's he's a really a good coach,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: different ways to make this work. And even from the kickoff,
Speaker 1: if you look at it, I mean he's I mean,
Speaker 1: they know that that there's of all kickoffs have a
Speaker 1: penalty in it. That's why Zoroline's not kicking it into
Speaker 1: the net. He's popping it up, trying to get it
Speaker 1: down so they can get you a better field position.
Speaker 1: Don't know why Tony Polter keeps running it out seven
Speaker 1: yards deep, but but yeah, I haven't figured that one
Speaker 1: out either, but they'll they'll figured it out. I think
Speaker 1: he's a great addition, all right, Dave. I love this guy.
Speaker 1: He's it's I mean, it bums me out that you know,
Speaker 1: we're doing all that we're doing this season via COVID,
Speaker 1: and I haven't really gotten a chance to get to
Speaker 1: know him, because he's just a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 1: Like he's always excited, he's always in a good mood,
Speaker 1: and I freaking I love his his confidence and his
Speaker 1: his go get or attitude. I mean, we can talk
Speaker 1: about the special team stuff, but if you go back
Speaker 1: to week one, some he asked him, you know, as
Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator, how do you feel when they
Speaker 1: pass up on a chance for an easy field goal
Speaker 1: to go for it on a fourth and three and
Speaker 1: he was like, hell yeah, I love it one hundred
Speaker 1: percent of the time. I don't know if we lost
Speaker 1: Dave there. I think we may have lost Dave there
Speaker 1: for a second, Amber, Why don't we go to you.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the special teams and
Speaker 1: what the coach is doing there. You like it? You
Speaker 1: don't like it? Are you talking to me? Yes? Yeah? Amber?
Speaker 1: He was saying some good stuff too. I know he
Speaker 1: was on a pro he's on a roll, and we
Speaker 1: think we just lost him. All right, Well I'll give
Speaker 1: am I back. Yes, you're back. Oh boy, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm sorry though. Uh yeah, I was on
Speaker 1: a roll, damn it. It's fine. Um oh no, he said. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: somebody was like, they asked him about the first fake
Speaker 1: punt failed, and he was like, when we do it again,
Speaker 1: we'll get it. And I was like, I love your confidence,
Speaker 1: my man. That's awesome. He's just fun. I like his
Speaker 1: aggressive attitude, his attention to detail. He also somebody asked
Speaker 1: him yesterday, did you kick the on site kick toward
Speaker 1: the Dallas sideline on purpose? So that Atlanta's coaches wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to yell at their players about what to do.
Speaker 1: And he laughed and said no comment, which means yes,
Speaker 1: by the way. So I love that he took the
Speaker 1: time to think of that like that. That's again, that's
Speaker 1: the type of stuff that we would have complained that
Speaker 1: the old coaching staff doesn't think that far ahead or
Speaker 1: think that minutely about it. So I got a lot
Speaker 1: to say about it, clearly, because I'm I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of this guy. Yep, me too. What do you think, Amber, Well,
Speaker 1: I love him as well. I think that he's great
Speaker 1: and I do have full confidence that special teams will
Speaker 1: keep improving as the season goes on. And one of
Speaker 1: the things I remember where he said in one of
Speaker 1: his initial interviews when he first got here with Dallas Um,
Speaker 1: I remember him saying that his hope is to make
Speaker 1: special team players feel like they matter, like they are important,
Speaker 1: just as important as any of the other guys, and
Speaker 1: that that stuck to me at the time because I'm like, huh,
Speaker 1: that's I love that kind of mentality, because you need
Speaker 1: to make every person feel like they matter. So his
Speaker 1: whole mentality, I absolutely love him. I think that the
Speaker 1: game changing like the way that he's choosing these and
Speaker 1: making these decisions that could be game changing plays. That
Speaker 1: goes along with what he said initially about making players
Speaker 1: feel like they matter, like this play is important, We're
Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. We have a chance to make
Speaker 1: a game changing decision here and all that. So I
Speaker 1: just think they're gonna keep doing better. There's there's been mistakes.
Speaker 1: It all goes back to execution, but players will keep improving,
Speaker 1: especially when you got that type of leader leading them.
Speaker 1: I think that they're just gonna get better. Let's extend out, Nick,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you this question. Let's extend out
Speaker 1: to the broader head coach and some of the decisions
Speaker 1: that he's made so far. In two weeks. You think
Speaker 1: about this. In two weeks, Cowboys have had two fake punts.
Speaker 1: They've had a two point conversion attempt that they tried
Speaker 1: earlier than some people thought they should have. They had
Speaker 1: a forty six yard field goal at the end of
Speaker 1: that game, which we didn't talk about yesterday, but they
Speaker 1: settled for forty six yards and they probably could have
Speaker 1: been a little more aggressive tried to get more yards
Speaker 1: they settled for forty six. It worked out, but they
Speaker 1: settled for forty six. And then they had the fourth
Speaker 1: down attempt in week one where instead of taking easy
Speaker 1: field goal, they attempt a fourth down conversion. Now, all
Speaker 1: of those except for settling for the forty six yarder
Speaker 1: went against them. Right now, when you look at the
Speaker 1: coaching decisions that have been made, he's obviously very very
Speaker 1: aggressive coach. That being said, though, do you think that
Speaker 1: this is a problem or do you think it's just
Speaker 1: a different way doing things that we're all going to
Speaker 1: have to adjust to because he's just more aggressive. They're
Speaker 1: a different way of doing it. I mean, just just
Speaker 1: completely different way of of you know, figuring out how
Speaker 1: to manage a game. And you know where right now
Speaker 1: he's he's one and one. I mean, that's that's probably
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he's gonna be fifty fifty all
Speaker 1: all year long. But but yeah, I mean, we're we're
Speaker 1: everybody would do you know, things differently. We say it
Speaker 1: all the time, We joke around. You coach your team,
Speaker 1: I'll coach my team. And literally he coaches his team.
Speaker 1: He does it his way. And there's some people that
Speaker 1: that believe that they only won the game because he
Speaker 1: went for two. I'm I'm I'm not necessarily a believer
Speaker 1: in that at all, but I just think there are
Speaker 1: some people think that that actually worked out for them
Speaker 1: and why that they won. But you know, I like
Speaker 1: his his ideas. They're different, they're they're new and fresh.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna agree with all of them. Amber, I
Speaker 1: like it. It's very different than than what we were
Speaker 1: used to, and that's what we've been asking for the
Speaker 1: past couple of years. So I can't complain now that
Speaker 1: we're actually seeing it happen. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think you also have to put some blame into
Speaker 1: the players. I think that there has been some calls
Speaker 1: that were good and risky, but it just comes down
Speaker 1: to execution and the players actually making the play happen.
Speaker 1: But then again, that goes into coaching as well, because
Speaker 1: at the same time, you as a coach are supposed
Speaker 1: to know and have a good feel of what your
Speaker 1: players can actually do and make happen. So it's just
Speaker 1: a balancing between. So to be fair, there's some blame
Speaker 1: to go around as far as the players making the
Speaker 1: play happen. But I love what I'm seeing some questionable things,
Speaker 1: but had they worked out to their advantage, we would
Speaker 1: be talking about how amazing and great and unbelievable this
Speaker 1: coaching staff is, especially Mike McCarthy, But it just it
Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily fully worked out just yet. But I do
Speaker 1: think it's like I said about special teams, I do
Speaker 1: think that as time goes on, they're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to improve and get better the more they keep practicing together. Obviously,
Speaker 1: those uh the preseason was crucial for everyone around the league.
Speaker 1: We know that, but I think given time, we'll be
Speaker 1: able to be cheering more than being questioning those play calls, Dave,
Speaker 1: what do you think? I absolutely and unequ unequivocally love it.
Speaker 1: And that's even you know, that's even I still don't.
Speaker 1: I don't love the two point conversion call. We don't
Speaker 1: have to do all that again. But give me the
Speaker 1: coach that's gonna do that stuff. Give me the coach.
Speaker 1: I mean, god, how much time have we spent talking
Speaker 1: about whether or not Mike McCarthy cares about analytics. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's what that is. That's that's what I didn't
Speaker 1: like the second fake punk call. I don't care I'm
Speaker 1: always going to be in favor of being aggressive to
Speaker 1: give your team the best chance to in. I mean,
Speaker 1: we spend eight years complaining about Garrett, and I feel
Speaker 1: like what a lot of people are saying is I
Speaker 1: want you to be aggressive when it's fourth and two
Speaker 1: on the opponent's thirty five yard line. Like that's that's
Speaker 1: not aggressive, that's obvious. So I love this idea of
Speaker 1: thinking outside the box. I say, keep doing it because
Speaker 1: I think they have the talent that it'll it'll pay
Speaker 1: off way more often than not, even though we haven't
Speaker 1: seen it through. But keep doing it right, Nick, real quick,
Speaker 1: you had a little story you wanted to give us
Speaker 1: before we in the show. I forgot to tell you
Speaker 1: this yesterday. I thought this was This was funny at
Speaker 1: the end of the game. It's not related to fossil
Speaker 1: into the game, I'm like running down to try to
Speaker 1: get to the elevator to get down to the field.
Speaker 1: Right after right after the kick, everyone's going nuts. There's
Speaker 1: about thirteen guys in front of me in this hallway.
Speaker 1: They're huge guys too, and they're all pissed and they're all,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of cussing, and I'm trying to weave
Speaker 1: through to get through the elevator and all that get there,
Speaker 1: and then if six or seven of them get on
Speaker 1: the elevator, is not really safe distancing on there. And
Speaker 1: it turns out its practice squad that they sit up
Speaker 1: in a suite or whatever, and they're pissed off because
Speaker 1: they can't believe it. And one guy was like, man,
Speaker 1: I wasn't here, but this has got to be the
Speaker 1: same feeling for losing that that super Bowl like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking that's probably not the same, close
Speaker 1: not the same. He's like, now I know, no, he said,
Speaker 1: now I know how those guys fell after, you know,
Speaker 1: losing the Super Bowl like this, And I'm just like, mm,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's actually the same at all. But
Speaker 1: it's just funny when you think about the practice squad.
Speaker 1: They travel these guys that you know, and then they're
Speaker 1: up there they're pissed off too. And another funny thing
Speaker 1: is CJ. Goodwin. I told Dave this history. He actually
Speaker 1: was on the falcons for that that game in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and all that, and then here he is,
Speaker 1: but three years later, recovering you know, watermelon sugar high
Speaker 1: down there spending there and makes it makes the play. No,
Speaker 1: even though it was that, that would have been the
Speaker 1: headline if we knew that, all go ahead, dude, of
Speaker 1: all the people to make the Harry Styles joke on
Speaker 1: this show, I would have guessed it would be you.
Speaker 1: I would have not guessed that. Yep, that would have
Speaker 1: been the headline of that if we knew that was
Speaker 1: called the watermelon cake. Oh yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Now we know, and we'll never see that cake again.
Speaker 1: Oh probably not. All right, guys, we appreciate you join us.
Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow. We got Bucky Brooks joining us as
Speaker 1: he does every week. He's gonna talk to us about
Speaker 1: the Seattle offense and good luck with that one. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting conversation we'll have with him. Till then.
Speaker 1: For Nick Eatman, Dave Helmett, Amber Garcia, I am Derek Eakleton.
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