WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Where's the Rush? 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:17.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.640 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.960 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.320 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:37.639 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.760 It is Tuesday, September twenty second, twenty twenty sixteen, episode 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.880 number twenty eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.120 Were life in s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.000 got David Amber in their home setups as well, and 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.240 we got about forty five minutes of Cowboys talk with 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.160 you guys today. It is Tuesday, so it is a 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.160 big picture day. We're gonna look at a couple different 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.520 items around this team and give you some opinions on 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.680 what we think of the team overall. Some areas of 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.640 concern is really where we're gonna focus. And they were 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.040 particularly to particular to some areas that we didn't get 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.800 a chance to talk about yesterday on the show as 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.000 we were recapping the game. And so let's let's jump 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.399 right in. I guess the first position I want to 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.559 bring up that was going into this game an area 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.160 of concern, and I'll be interested to see if you 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.959 guys still feel the same level of concern is the 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.200 offensive tackle position. Dak was only sacked one time in 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.360 this game. It was a first quarter blitz and that 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.679 led to the sack fumble, and as far as I 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.080 can tell from rewatching it, it looked like Zeke was 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.280 maybe more the culprit. Maybe you can make the case 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.240 that Connor Williams should have blocked down and that guy 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.600 shouldn't have been released up the middle. Either way, it 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.000 wasn't the tackles. I don't think that were involved in 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.560 that particular situation. Dat being said, how do you assess 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.920 the play of the two offensive tackles from Sunday's game, 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.520 Terrence Steele and Brandon Night Nichol's start with you, Well, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.480 I thought they struggled, and I think that those numbers 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.400 are deceiving a little. I think Dak was running for 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.320 his life. I think that's why Dalton Schultz had so 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.440 many catches, just because he's had to get the ball 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.400 out quick. They did settle down. I thought they did 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.280 better job. Terrence Steel that's twice. Now he's kind of 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.919 settled down later in the game, but you know, you 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.720 got to hold on for one more game here and 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.919 that Lyle should come back after that, and I think 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.000 Tyrn could come back this week. So my level of 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.600 concern is lower than it was because they were able 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.960 to win a game. I mean, think about that. When 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.959 does the team ever put up five hundred yards five 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.440 hundred and fifty yards or whatever with both tackles starting 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.000 just their second game. Ever, I thought that was that 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:47.000 was interesting. Amber, what do you think? Honestly, I'm way 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:51.200 less concerned than I initially was prior to going into 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.720 the game. I think they did a good job. Honestly, 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.399 I think they handle what they needed to handle. Yes, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.359 there were some mistakes, but at the same time, example, 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.880 the penalty, it wasn't fortunate, but you know, like even 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.440 Tyren Smith Lyalla Collins, they have guying penalties in the past, 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.120 so it happens. It happens. You don't want them to 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.760 the opposing team to score on you from a penalty, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.960 but it's just part of the game. I think that 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.320 they did as best as they could as backup, so 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:29.200 I'm definitely not as concerned, specially knowing that it won't 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:30.840 be for the rest of the year. You know, if 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.119 they was for the whole season, then maybe we got 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.840 a problem here. But at this but right now, knowing 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.680 that Lyelle and Tyrone are gonna be coming back, I 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.520 think I'm okay, Dave, how did you assess steal a Knight? 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.240 I feel a little vindicated by Brandon Knight's success. I 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.640 mean I feel like, you know, me and me and 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.080 Nick have been driving that train a little bit. You know, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.080 back heading into training camp, I was surprised that he 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.760 didn't get the first look against the Rams at right tackle. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.720 So yeah, I thought they played really well given the circumstances. Now, 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.680 you wouldn't prefer it that Dak not only was running 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.720 for his life and had to check down to Dalton 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.560 Schultz a few times. I mean, he got he got rocked, 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.440 even on some completions. The long ball to Cooper, he 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.440 took a pretty nasty shot, which obviously he's a tough guy. Um, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.799 so do I want that for a ton of games? 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.159 Not really? But um, you know, Seattle's pass rush has 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.159 been struggling through two weeks, so you know, it's nice 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.840 to think that if you have to do that again 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.240 this weekend, you might be able to survive it, I thought, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.000 I mean, they played well enough that you can survive it, obviously. Yeah, 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.960 it's getting really scary how much the two of you 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.240 guys are thinking alike like this is this is happening 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.480 way too frequently to Dave and Nick park agreeing on 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.839 things like that's not the fun of this show. Y'all 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:51.880 need to be at odds about something, right, Yeah, Okay, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.160 we go, but I do go ahead. I don't know. Well, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.920 Amber's Amber's doing a good job of taking the other side. Well, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.800 Amber's always gonna be That's what they know about. Ag Hey, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.600 if you want me to play that role, I can 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.960 play that role. I can argue the other way. Did 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.040 you see that play where your dad had to go 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.479 out to the tent and get tended by the medical staff, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.520 and then we had to see Andy Dalton go into 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.080 the game. That's a big worry because they could have 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.120 gone bad and maybe we're talking about a different story 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.920 here for the rest of the year. So I guess 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.960 you can argue the other way. That was that was 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.760 a pretty That was a pretty cheap shot by my guy, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.880 Dion Jones. I mean that was a rollout and he 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.760 hit him pretty late after the throw, so Dak took 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.919 a lot of shots and his protection was not amazing, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.800 But that that play is not on the tackles, though. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.360 I guess the point I'm making and that I would make, 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.320 is the fact that these guys, as you said, Nick, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.760 was this was their second start for both of them. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.720 These are undrafted guys. And the fact that you only 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.400 ended up giving up one sec. I know, Dak is amazing, 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.560 but still you had two tackles who were starting an 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.200 NFL game for only the first second time in their 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:06.040 careers and we're undrafted players. That says something about the 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.000 level of play. And by the way, I think we 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.039 got to give a little bit of deference there to 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.200 the coaches as well, because part of being able to 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.560 protect your quarterback in those kind of situations is what 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.560 are you doing, how are you running the offense, what 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.360 kind of plays are you running? How do you keep 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.280 the defense off balance? Or that you can't just take 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.719 advantage of those two positions. So I think all that 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.599 stuff matters, and I think you've got to give credit 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.919 to these tackles and to these coaches. Yeah, I agree 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.320 with them real quick, Dave. I want to get I 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.520 assume you listen to Jerry this morning on the fan. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.760 I'd love to know what you what you're hearing right 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.120 now as far as the you know where they are 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.760 with Tyrant and maybe where they are with Lyle. If 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:45.320 you've heard anything more on Lyle and when he's expected back. Yeah, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.880 well not so much Lyle. I mean, we know he 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.680 can't play Sunday. Yeah, I'll be interested to see how 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.720 quickly you know he's eligible to come off. I are 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.440 after the Seahawks game. That doesn't necessarily mean he will, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.960 so we probably need to start putting some lines in 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:04.000 the water about that Tyring. Jerry said something pretty interesting, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.359 which you know, maybe isn't a huge surprise, but he 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.240 basically said, like, you know, if we were just determined, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.760 come hell or high water to play Tyr and we 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.960 probably could have done it on Sunday, but we held 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.480 him out in the interest of having him better for 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.160 the long term, whether that's Seattle or just moving down 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.760 the season. It is. It's stingers, which actually, ironically enough, 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.120 he suffered a really bad stinger against Atlanta in twenty eighteen, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.920 the other one that they won at the end with 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.760 a fuel goal. So this has been a thing for him, 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.800 and I'm sure he's not feeling great, so they held 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.680 him out in the interest of all right by not 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.280 asking you to play on this on three days rest. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.880 Hopefully we can get it to settle down enough to 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.440 where it doesn't bother you all season long. Stephen Jones 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.320 said yesterday he in the same sentence, he said, we 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.680 think Tyrone's got a great shot to play Sunday. We 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.120 also think he's a game time decision. So those two 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.560 ideas don't really mesh. So, I mean, it sounds like 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.200 it's gonna be another week of watching the injury report, 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.360 but it is interesting to think that you know, they're 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.480 obviously making these decisions with an eye on the entire 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.080 schedule and not just a week to week basis. And 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.800 I think it helps that steal And Night practice last week, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.880 and that will probably be the case this week too. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.600 I would imagine if they're going to get a lot 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.360 of practice reps, even if Tyrant is supposed to play, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.160 I don't know if you'll need to be out there 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.080 a lot, So I would imagine those two guys are 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.760 going to get a lot of snaps. And that all 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.400 being said, I'll to go to Amber first on this one. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.520 What is your level? Are you more comfortable going into 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.040 this game? If you have to start steal and night 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.800 then you were, say last week based upon what you 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.920 saw in the game against the Falcons for sure, because 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.040 prior to the game, like I said earlier, my level 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.160 of concern was very, very high. And going into this game, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.400 I think that one you expect player to get better 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.360 as they play games. So I think that that game 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:10.200 last weekend was just a perfect practice time to get 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.640 better in real game action rather than just practicing. So 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:18.040 I expect them to be able to hold up. And 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.839 even if Tyring comes back in, and I wonder, I mean, 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.480 if he does come back in, do they let him 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.720 play all throughout the game or do they try to 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.520 eat him in and rotate him? So I do feel 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.640 more comfortable, but it's still always an area of concern 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.280 when when you don't have the old all players that 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.120 you are used to having. More comfortable Yeah, and I'll 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.680 answer to that part. I mean, I think if he 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.360 comes back, I don't believe there'll be any rotating. I 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.720 just don't think they do that with tackles with with 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:55.000 him now. I mean, it makes sense though it's really 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.120 is the only position where you don't do that. You 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.839 don't like rotating. I guess squreback as well. Um, but 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.319 I you know, I think it's this is a very 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.800 interesting dilemma that they're in because it's just early in 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.840 the season to be battling with this, and you know 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.360 it's going to be something that they have to deal 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.440 with and their bye week is way down the road here. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.240 So yeah, I feel more comfortable. I mean, the more 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.520 steel and night play, I would feel more comfortable with night. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.520 I just feel like he's gonna fight you. He's he 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.840 wants to like turn it into a fist fight if 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.600 he can. And I think that he might have some 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:30.160 limitations athletically, but I think that that guy will will 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.280 get the job done too. And you know, pride takes 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.960 over and all that stuff. I think he's a pretty 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.720 I think he's turned it into a pretty good player. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.080 You made the comparison a couple maybeen last week between 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.079 him and Mark Colombo. I'm starting to see that too. 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.600 That's the that's the m O on Mark Colombo. Although 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.280 Mark Colombo was a much higher pay I mean, the 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.040 first round thick and so he had a lot more 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.520 pedigree coming in but it's that type of mentality where 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.920 he was just going to brawl with you for sixty minutes. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.920 And that's just kind of how I pay Footballston that 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.920 after the game, um night, I asked him about being 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:03.520 a like a barroom brawler. He was like, oh, yeah, yeah, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.200 that's exactly what I like to do. I want to 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.719 brawl with you. F'm like, okay, we'll take that, all right, Dave, 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.760 you feel more comfortable. I don't want to steal a 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.480 segment from our Thursday show when we talk about the Seahawks, 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.640 but if there's a team where you're gonna be compromised 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.040 to tackle, this is probably the one. Like these these 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.400 guys don't have edge rushers, which I know that's famous 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.720 last words because as soon as you say that, you're 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.400 gonna have five sacks. But I mean their fan base 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.560 was Their fan base was clamoring all off season for 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.679 Clowney and Everson Griffin. Ironically, Everson Griffin winds up here, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.120 uh they I mean, they don't have a proven guy 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.400 that their DPR Bruce Irvin towards ACL the other night, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.040 so they don't have him. It's our old, our old friend. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.360 Benson Mayowa is their most proven pass rusher right now. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.720 So if if you're gonna be compromised to tackle, this 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.560 is a favorable game to be doing it now. Week four, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.920 when Miles Garrett comes to town, I'm starting to get nervous. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.160 But in this game, I feel all right, yeah, No. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.160 The big difference between whatever they got right now and 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.600 Miles Garrett. I think he's one of the premier pass rushers, 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.040 young pass rushers in this league. 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I think we all came away feeling 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.880 a little bit better this week than we may have 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.160 felt going into the game. Now let's flip over to 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:05.160 the defense, where they've had some real issues at times 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.480 and games. For the most part, I would think throughout 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.800 most both of the games they've played, I don't think 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.400 we would necessarily say they've had a great start here 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:16.360 to the season. That being said, I looked at just 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.760 some of the moments in that game this last week 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.000 where particularly the secondary had some issues. You look at 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.000 the forty two yard past Hayden Hurst where he was 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.120 wide open down the field. Looked like there was a 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.600 mix up between the safety and the linebacker on who 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.040 was gonna get him. Nobody seemed to figure that out, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.320 and he's wide open down the field for a touchdown. 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.240 You had Cheeto being beat on the twenty two yard 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.920 touchdown to Calvin Ridley. You had Jordan being beat on 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.360 the three yard down touchdown to Ridley. Again, Cheeto got 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.720 beat by Julio and then missed the tackle. They gave 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.960 up the nineteen yard gain to Julio and that ends 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:54.240 up leading to a touchdown. That all being said, how 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:55.920 do you assess the play of the secondary? And I 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.040 want you to take two weeks in total, looking at 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:00.920 what they did first against the Rams and then what 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.240 happened against the Falcons, and tell me how you assess 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.120 this secondary. Nick, let's start with you. I think it's 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.760 been okay. I think it's been exposed because when we 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.560 get to the when we get to the party in 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.120 your little book there about about the defensive line that'll 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.560 be bad. So what you think when you were reading that, 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.840 keep scrolling. I'm like, you need to write a book 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:28.600 every day. Sorry, But I do believe that it's been okay. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.080 I just feel like that they're having a hard time 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.040 with no pass rush. I mean that secondary those guys, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.880 Oh we're gonna get there, right, they need a pass 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.680 rush and they're not good enough to be chasing Julio 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.200 Jones and Ridley around all day long. All right, Amber, 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:47.479 what you got. That's exactly what I was gonna say. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:52.600 I hate just keep agreeing with especially nig but Dave 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.720 and I are usually kind of on the same page. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.280 But no, that's exactly what I think they've They've been 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.840 just okay. They've made a lot of mistakes here, and 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.919 they're big ones that cost the Cowboys. But at the 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.840 same time, I feel that I'm more concerned about the 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:14.720 pass rush and what they're doing there. And you know, Derek, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.600 you kept saying this is where where we're gonna get 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.400 all this help for the secondary, but it hasn't happened, honestly. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.640 And as far as Jordan Lewis, it was disappointing to 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:29.600 see him give up that that touchdown play. I always 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.159 expect him to play better, and he's played better, but 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.199 I think that's also just a product of him not 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.600 being able to have a full training camp and just 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:43.199 being out there practicing enough times. But and also I 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.400 am have you guys heard anything about Cheeto and the injury. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.120 I know, he like walked out of the game with 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:54.720 some hamstring hamstring issue there. Yeah, he left at the 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:59.240 very end with a hammy. You know. Mike McCarthy's made 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.760 it pretty clear he doesn't love talking specifics, so I 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.600 really don't know the severity of it. Obviously, the injury 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.640 report will be out tomorrow. Yeah, well we'll see how 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.360 that how severe that is. But it just another thing, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.360 another thing to add to the defense and in their secondary, Dave, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.960 how do you assess the secondary? I'll go against the 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.400 grain a little bit because I feel like I'm always 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.880 the guy, you know, I hate to say making excuses, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.720 but I'm usually the guy that's defending dbs because it's 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.760 such a hard position to play, and you know, people 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.680 tend to hold the losses in, you know, they hold 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.280 it over your head and never credit the successes. So like, 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.679 I'm never going to criticize a guy, like if the 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:48.320 coverage is good, and you give to Van Jefferson just 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.200 a beautifully thrown ball. I'm not gonna kill you for that. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:55.720 I thought Calvin Ridley's first touchdown Cheetoh was he was 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.600 like one step from you know, he dives and reaches 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.600 and he was like one step from king it up. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:02.320 I'm not going to kill a guy for that either. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.000 Like it's a hard position. But what troubles you is 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.560 the busts. Like I mean, come on, guys, Hayden Hurst 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.040 is a first round pick. The Falcons traded for him 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.800 to replace Hooper. He's gonna be a focal point of 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.840 their offense, and they've just lost him. Like I mean, 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.840 you can't. You can't give up touchdowns in the NFL 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.720 where the guys scoring doesn't have anyone around him. So 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.240 that and to get you know, the play on the 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.480 goal line where Jordan seemed to lose his man as well. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.399 I think that was Ridley's second touchdown. That's the stuff 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.280 you can't. You gotta clean that up because you're gonna 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.240 give up plays when the coverage is good. That's the 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.040 nature of the game right now. You just so, I 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:46.119 mean to have three big busts where people just didn't 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.479 know what they were doing in the same game, that 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.680 that's what troubles you, and that's gonna get you beat 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.120 when you don't put together a miracle in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.679 I will say this, of all those problems, and by 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.480 the way, I do think they're all problems. Of all 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.960 those problem though, what I've seen from Digs over the 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.159 first two weeks gets me really excited about him as 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.960 a cornerback for this team. Because I was telling my 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.520 wife this about the play that he broke up with 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.560 Julio down field. To me, I look at that and 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:18.080 I'm like, yeah, he didn't necessarily make that interception, but 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.439 I think just if you watch the way that he 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.359 was able to recover and get in position to actually 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.680 break it up, it was a really really great play 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:28.720 if he gets to the point. And by the way, 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.679 one of the things that they liked about him is 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.919 he is a guy that actually can catch. Now. I know, 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.560 these first two weeks, he's had two opportunities and he 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.640 hasn't come up with either one of them. But once 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.280 he gets that part down, I think I'm seeing things 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.320 right now that suggests he's gonna be a really good player. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:43.679 That doesn't mean he's not gonna get beat. And as 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.640 you were saying, Dave, cornerbacks get beat, that's a part 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:47.880 of it. You're not gonna beat. These are NFL wide receivers. 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.080 A lot of them are really good wide receivers. You're 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.400 not gonna win every time. But if you can win 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:53.960 some of the time, and if some of those times 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.480 you can turn the ball over, then that's when you 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.440 step into that elite level of cornerbacks in this league. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.399 And I'm starting to see some things that makes me 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.560