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Speaker 3: It's a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We are live in Chicago. Big dominoes fallen yesterday, a

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Speaker 1: few more dominoes, and free agency in the NFL falling today.

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Speaker 1: We are live wherever you may be and however you

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Speaker 1: may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's something I haven't said much in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders really know what they're doing. This is why

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Speaker 1: the NFL is great. You don't need tanking. You can

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Speaker 1: get better through trades, the draft, free agency. The NFL

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Speaker 1: gives you so many avenues to get good overnight. Tyler Linderbaum,

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Speaker 1: great center from Baltimore, is now a Raider. My favorite

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Speaker 1: signing of free agency A plus plus. Get to that

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Speaker 1: in a second. I absolutely love that signing. Jalen Naylor,

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Speaker 1: the receiver and number three receiver from Minnesota, not much

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Speaker 1: of a paycheck, way underrated signing Eric Stokes re signing

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Speaker 1: him at corner outstanding. Ideally, in the NFL, you'd love

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Speaker 1: to have great ownership at the top, but the Bears

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders don't. But both have really, really ascending

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Speaker 1: general managers John Spytech. For the Raiders to get two

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Speaker 1: firsts for Max Crosby in a year in which he

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Speaker 1: was banged up is a hall. And remember that Ravens

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Speaker 1: pick to the Raiders that that picks fourteen, So they

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Speaker 1: had the number one pick for Enda Mendoza and the

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Speaker 1: fourteenth pick, so they're going to get two absolute if

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Speaker 1: they want Day one starters.

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Speaker 3: Not to mention, and it just this is what's great.

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Speaker 1: Pathetic to playoffs in the NFL is a regular occurrence

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Speaker 1: for the last seven Super Bowls for the last seven

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Speaker 1: featured a team that didn't even make the playoffs the

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Speaker 1: previous year. Last year Seattle and New England two for two.

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Speaker 1: No other league can do that. If you are lousy

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Speaker 1: perpetually in this league, like Cleveland the Jets, it is

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Speaker 1: all self inflicted, like the two hundred and thirty million

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Speaker 1: guaranteed due Deshaun Watson and all of you knew the

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Speaker 1: minute the ink was dry, that was a terrible deal.

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Speaker 1: Have you also noticed what the Raiders are doing and

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Speaker 1: this is not a coincidence. They are signing players from

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Speaker 1: winning organizations like the Eagles and the Ravens and the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the Packers. They're taking people from winning cultures. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now there is some dumb money in free agency. You

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Speaker 1: can kind of see it, and it's obvious. I think

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Speaker 1: Zion Johnson from Cleveland getting fifty million. Chargers just let

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Speaker 1: him walk. That was the worst guard center guard experience

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Speaker 1: in the entire league. And gosh, what a shot. Cleveland

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Speaker 1: overpaid for it. So or the Jets last season given

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Speaker 1: a couple of years and forty million to Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: probably wasn't going to work out.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like when.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the Raiders this offseason, I am watching what

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Speaker 1: the Bears did last offseason. Go get a sharp, respected,

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Speaker 1: young offensive coach for your young quarterback. Get a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl level center to call the audibles, most underrated position

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Speaker 1: in the sport. Go grab a receiver or two if

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Speaker 1: you can find them in the league or draft them.

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Speaker 1: Give give your a young quarterback a compliment of receivers

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Speaker 1: or tight ends. And I'm telling you, since the Max

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Speaker 1: Cross Me deal on Friday, the Raiders have had the

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Speaker 1: most positive, uplifting five days that I can remember in

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Speaker 1: forever twenty plus years. And when Fernando Mendoza a month

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Speaker 1: and a half, two months ago, you're thinking, Oh, that

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Speaker 1: poor kid's going to the Raiders. Now I've got Brock Bauers,

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Speaker 1: best young tight end in football, Tyler Linnebaum probably the

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Speaker 1: second best center in the league after Creed Humphrey and

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Speaker 1: at Fernando Mendoza thinking, oh, this could work. I honestly

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Speaker 1: feel the Raiders feel like that buddy you have that's

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Speaker 1: like thirty seven years old and finally has his act together.

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Speaker 1: He's no longer sleeping on people's couches. He has a job,

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Speaker 1: do it for hims. Buddy, you finally got it together.

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Speaker 1: It took a while. I mean, I've been waiting for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to you sleep my couch for another week.

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Speaker 1: But Albert Breer talked about the Tyler Linderbaum signing. I

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Speaker 1: think it is an A plus plus gap.

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Speaker 4: Let's say the value for Tyler Linderbaum is twenty three

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Speaker 2: All of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: So that's going to take stuff off the plate of

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Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza. So by investing in Linderbaum, I think you're

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's something else I don't say very often. Here's

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Speaker 1: something else I don't say very often. Yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: what the Dolphins did. Raiders and the Dolphins. What's happening?

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Speaker 1: Malik willis at only twenty two million dollars. Here's why

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Speaker 1: I love it because the new coach of Miami, Jeff Hafley,

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Speaker 1: new GM of the Dolphins also comes from Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: So this is not buying something off a used car

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Speaker 1: lot where you don't know if they messed around with

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Speaker 1: with teammates, his work ethic and half Lee, the new

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Speaker 1: coach and the new GM Green Bay to Miami, both

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Speaker 1: said yeah, we gotta go get that guy. And at

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Speaker 1: twenty two million, it's a bargain. People say, well, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's only had a handful of starts. Folks, how

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Speaker 1: many starts did you need to know that Zach Wilson

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Speaker 3: I'm like, didn't like him coming in not going to work.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't take that.

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Speaker 1: How long did it take to watch Justin Herbert first

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor can't play. They insert Justin Herbert in the game.

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Speaker 1: Rookie first game, over three hundred yards, sixty seven percent

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Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that works. That's a franchise quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: needed one Justin Herbert start. So when they signed to

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Speaker 1: it to an extension years ago, I said it on

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Speaker 3: I said, the GM doesn't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Probably the nicest guy in the world that's you got

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Speaker 1: to be kidding me. A small, marginally athletic, concussion prone

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Speaker 1: where all the good teams playing windy cold weather in January,

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Speaker 1: and you re sign him to a massive deal. Hell

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Malik Willis is not this. I've seen

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Speaker 1: enough of Malik Willis Okay, really good arm for his size,

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Speaker 1: very very athletic, looks like he's durable, accurate. And again

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Speaker 1: the coach and the GM of Miami were in Green

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Speaker 1: just keep well. I mean, you haven't seen that much.

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Speaker 1: I was first day with my wife seven eight minutes in.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the one. It just doesn't take that.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying this about those music shows. I don't

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Speaker 1: America's got talent. You can tell two lyrics in you're

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Speaker 1: like that is a hack or oh that's somebody that

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Speaker 3: And I don't know anything about moot music.

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Speaker 1: So I oh, I know when I see Malik Willis arm, athleticism,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's got a good work ethic or half,

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Speaker 1: he's not bringing him down.

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Speaker 3: Here's Matt Hasselbeck.

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Speaker 5: I remember when he came out, a lot of people

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Speaker 5: liked him, some people didn't. And you know, I remember

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Speaker 5: he was the third string quarterback in Tennessee and he

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Speaker 5: was an afterthought and it was about well Levis and

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Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph and these guys. And you know, clearly, your

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Speaker 5: environment does matter. And I think Malik is a great

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Speaker 5: example of a guy that plays within the system, has

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Speaker 5: great coaching around him, and clearly is a problem for defenses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I got six starts. I think you saw

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Speaker 1: You saw him get moved from Tennessee to Green Bay

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Speaker 1: and he was really good in one games, And you say, well,

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Speaker 1: green Bay's got good coaching.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Every time I bring up Matt Lafleur, everybody wants him

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Speaker 1: don't like Malik Willis, well, why is he so good?

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Speaker 1: He's either good or the coaching's great in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: So I think both are true. I think Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 1: really talented. And I do not think you need that

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Speaker 1: much time they're paying him twenty two million. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're Here's all you need to know about the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Look at the dead money for the next two years.

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Speaker 1: They have to incre moving off two So anybody that says, well,

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Speaker 1: they're both a little undersized, this kid's the opposite of Tua.

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Speaker 1: He's wildly dynamic athletically. He's got a big, big arm

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Speaker 3: As far as I can tell.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes the smaller quarterbacks they play, they don't want to

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was the number two quarterback last season

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Speaker 1: and when people say, well, I haven't seen.

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Speaker 3: A lot of him.

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Speaker 1: If you only draft and develop or acquire quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: everybody's seen a lot of, you get into you get

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Speaker 1: into bidding wars, right, Like, it's like nil. If you

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Speaker 1: want the best quarterback in college football and everybody else

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Speaker 1: knows he's great, you got to spend seven million dollars.

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Speaker 3: You do what the Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Hoosiers did, and you go get Fernando Mendoza from coal

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Speaker 1: and there's no bidding war and you get him for

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Speaker 3: So if you're only.

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Speaker 1: wanted Peyton Manning. That's what's gonna cost you. But to

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Speaker 1: get it Darnold from Minnesota, Baker Mayfield down in Tampa,

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Speaker 1: you want to get into bidding wars for every quarterback,

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Speaker 1: good luck. But I think the price tag the player.

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Speaker 1: The fit Raiders, Dolphin. It is a new day in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Jmcall fight. Now we've got gonna have some

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Speaker 1: more signings Diana Russini in forty minutes from now forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes. But now that doesn't mean there are teams

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Speaker 1: that overspent Alec Pierce is a good receiver. The Colts

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Speaker 1: are going to pay him almost thirty million a year.

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Speaker 1: That is more than I'd want to pay Alec Pearce,

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Speaker 1: who I like, who I think is a really good player.

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Speaker 1: They moved off Pittman. Pittman goes to the Steelers. You know,

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Speaker 9: But he has Bobby Wit dazzling for USA.

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Speaker 3: And here was Aaron Judge on the win against Mexico.

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Speaker 10: Let's playoff baseball in March. You know that's what it's

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Speaker 10: You got Paul Skins on the mound, who was doing

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna win more than that. Miami's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: But I think Malik Willis Halflee Halfley was great in

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Speaker 8: questions for it. So once I once I see, once

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Speaker 8: I seen he was on my left and I was

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Speaker 8: going right. I think it was Christian Brown that was

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Speaker 8: in the gap, so I knew I probably was like

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Speaker 8: if I, if I drove to shoot, the media is

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Speaker 8: probably gonna be a contested with two guys. So I

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Speaker 8: tried to separate from the three and get a good

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Speaker 8: comfortable shot and it went down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you want to say anything nice about Okay? I

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Speaker 7: mean people think.

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Speaker 6: I'm a hater. It was a great shot by SGA.

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Speaker 6: He probably won the MVP last night, right.

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Speaker 3: As he played the right number of games.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he has, see he would have to miss several

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Speaker 6: more games. It doesn't look like he's going to, so listen, okay,

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Speaker 6: see probably gonna be.

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Speaker 7: The number one seed.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you've watched the Spurs closely. You think Thunder

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Speaker 6: favorites in the West.

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Speaker 7: Still or no?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Thunder had been winning missing multiple starters,

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Speaker 1: so I mean it's and I also think Golden Golden

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Speaker 1: State San Antonio is still young.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's young.

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Speaker 1: Wemby's remarkable player, Stefan Kappel the Castle's remarkable player.

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Speaker 3: But they're really young.

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Speaker 1: We all know that the Tarmacs long for the Spurs

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Speaker 1: and because of the draft capital they have Oka see

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Speaker 1: but today, if they played in a seven game series,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would go seven. I would probably

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Speaker 1: take okay, see in five or six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Now we didn't show video of it, but lou Dort

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Speaker 6: did another cheap shot at Jokic, so it's like he's

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Speaker 6: targeting the guy. I'm just telling you this probably should

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Speaker 6: weren't a suspension. It wasn't as bad as the last one.

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Speaker 6: But when this stuff starts to add up, Oh here

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Speaker 6: we got it on the screen. Watch him just the

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Speaker 6: arm flings back, drills Jokic in the face. Colin, he's

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Speaker 6: a dirty player. We can say that. The history is there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty obvious.

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Speaker 6: All right, final story, Colin, let's go, I'll stick in

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Speaker 6: the NBA and it's Jason Tatum returned.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: I could not have been more wrong. I didn't think

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Speaker 6: Tatum would be this much of a factor. Yeah, Colin,

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Speaker 6: two games in, he looks pretty good. He went nuclear

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Speaker 6: against the Calvs on Sunday, really solid game with twenty

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Speaker 6: points in twenty seven minutes. Boston looks like the team

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Speaker 6: to be if I'm a Knicks fan, and I think

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Speaker 6: the Knicks look a little rattled.

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Speaker 7: Like, damn, he's this good this quickly. Did you think

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Speaker 7: Tatum would be this effective?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean every time of an athlete in their

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Speaker 1: prime gets hurt, they always come back significantly sooner than

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Speaker 1: everybody estimates. So you know, the teams play it cautious.

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Speaker 1: They you know it's gonna be next he may not

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Speaker 1: come back and play. These these pro athletes are in

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Speaker 1: such great shape, they have such great nutrition, doctors, rehabbing assignments.

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Speaker 1: These guys all come back sooner than later. And I

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Speaker 1: think Boston's gonna win and I and I like the

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Speaker 1: way you're doing Halla. Burton's out. You know, the Knicks

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Speaker 1: haven't played that great. I mean, the Lakers took him

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Speaker 1: to the wood shed. I watched that game, and I

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Speaker 1: think Boston's gonna win.

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Speaker 3: The And Detroit's not ready.

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Speaker 1: Detroit is a real Detroit's the Classic hasn't won anything.

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Speaker 1: So they play incredibly hard in the regular season, but

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Speaker 1: they're not going to be a great playoff team. If

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Speaker 1: they face Boston because they just can't score in the

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Speaker 1: half in the half court, it's a very average team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Friday, when you were out, we did this well.

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Speaker 6: I did this a little. The Jalen Brown versus Jason

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Speaker 6: Tatum thing, whose team is it? I know that can

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Speaker 6: be a goofy conversation, but a couple guys in the

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Speaker 6: staff made a good point, like Jalen Brown's an MVP candidate,

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Speaker 6: his usage rate is second highest in the league. He's

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Speaker 6: having career numbers, and now he has to step back

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Speaker 6: so Tatum can step in. It is an interesting discussion.

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Speaker 6: It's not as dumb as some of the other networks

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Speaker 6: out there making.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Shaq and Kobe, who is better? It

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Speaker 1: was your preference? Like Brown and Tatum are both excellent

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Speaker 1: now the longer athlete Tatum. Probably the more gifted offensive

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Speaker 1: athlete is Tatum, but I don't think the gap is

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Speaker 1: that big. But I think they're both a players.

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Speaker 6: So when you punch above your weight class with Brown

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Speaker 6: for all season and you're like, oh my gosh, this

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Speaker 6: team's amazing, and then you bring back in Tatum, there

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Speaker 6: is a world where down the stretch Tatum's like, listen,

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Speaker 6: this was my show for five months, and now you're

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Speaker 6: going to.

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Speaker 7: Come in and take it.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that's going to happen, but the door

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Speaker 6: is a jar for that kind of situation.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the news, Well, that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for stopping by the herd Line.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: So there's a report that the San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers are willing to move off and trade eight year

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Speaker 1: old left tackle Trent Williams. They did sign Mike Evans,

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Speaker 1: a very good but older wide receiver. So McCaffrey is thirty,

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Speaker 1: George Kittle is thirty two, Mike Evans is thirty three,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hughescheck is thirty five, Trent Williams is thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers truly believe age is just the number.

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Speaker 1: With most teams, I mean, you're in a division. Seattle

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Speaker 1: is one of the youngest teams in the league. Last year,

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Speaker 1: when Seattle and San Francisco played for the final time,

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Speaker 1: the Niners were the second oldest team. The Seahawks were

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Speaker 1: the fifth youngest team, and Seattle blew their doors off.

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Speaker 1: So in a division with the very athletic young on

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Speaker 1: defense Rams and the very young Seahawks everywhere, I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm an outlier here. I don't necessarily love

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Speaker 1: adding a thirty year old receiver who was banged up

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Speaker 1: this past year. So I think Mike Evans is a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, And clearly Kyle Shanahan loves the IQ

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Speaker 1: of the veteran players. He didn't have to teach him.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't take his long and he's a smart, reliable,

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Speaker 1: productive veteran. But he missed some games last year. And

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Speaker 1: I just think in a division where the Rams and

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks have two of the deepest, if not the

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Speaker 1: two deepest young athletic quick rosters, I mean, reminds me

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Speaker 1: the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Remind me the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to keep the band together, you know. And

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Speaker 1: then you watched the Warriors, was it last year? Played

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Speaker 1: the t Wolves in the playoffs, and it's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry gets banged up. Series over and I kind

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Speaker 1: of feel like when I watched the Niners against the

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Speaker 1: Rams or the Seahawks, I'm like, they don't have enough

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Speaker 1: young athletes, so, you know, and the Warriors kept like,

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Speaker 1: let's acquire Jimmy Butler. Let's get some aging stars. Let's

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Speaker 1: keep the let's keep the window open. And then suddenly

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Speaker 1: it's not only not open, you're unwatchable if Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: doesn't play. And I kind of feel like, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to move off Trent Williams, what happens if Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey gets banged up for a month.

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Speaker 3: So i'm, i'm, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I watched Seattle San Francisco play old Team, Young team,

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Speaker 1: not close, and I and I and I've you know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm supposed to love it, but San Francisco's

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Speaker 1: got some players that are older than the trolley cars

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Speaker 1: in the city. It's like, guys, you got to get

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Speaker 1: younger in your division alone, you gotta get younger. So

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Speaker 1: right now, the forty nine ers are currently right now

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Speaker 1: this second, adding Mike Evans, the oldest roster in the

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Speaker 1: NFL for the record. Last year, remember when Washington fell

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Speaker 1: off a cliff. One of the problems was the Commanders,

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Speaker 1: who had been to the NFC championship year before. The

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Speaker 1: old guys all got hurt. And when old guys get hurt,

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Speaker 1: it takes them longer to recover. So I know, I'm

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean Mike Evans the good red zone target.

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Speaker 1: But Kittle and Evans and McCaffrey and Trent, I feel like, guys,

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Speaker 1: just you're getting really old.

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Speaker 3: Not to mention. You got that substation next to the

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Speaker 3: practice facility, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading stories like Mike Evans, Mike should just basically

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Speaker 1: practice in another part of town and just like show

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Speaker 1: up for the game that substation.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's been proven not to be true, but I it's

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Speaker 1: too weird.

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Speaker 3: It's like one sliver.

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Speaker 1: Of me that thinks, don't don't get anybody with coming

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Speaker 1: off an injury with the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: So and I don't know why baseball fans understand this.

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Speaker 1: Hockey fans understand this. I think football fans understand NBA

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Speaker 1: fans struggle with something. They always think the better the

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Speaker 1: player just get him on your team and basketball there's

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Speaker 1: one ball.

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Speaker 3: It's about fit. So let me give an example.

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron James is better than Jaden McDaniels of Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: But if you just.

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Speaker 1: Flipped them and you gave the Lakers Jaden McDaniels, a

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Speaker 1: plus defender on the wing and a great catch and

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Speaker 1: shoot three ball guy, the Lakers would be a much

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Speaker 1: more dangerous playoff team. I don't think McDaniels is better

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Speaker 1: than Lebron, but the numbers don't lie. I watched the

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Speaker 1: Lakers beat the Knicks on Sunday and it was one

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Speaker 1: of their best defensive efforts of the season. They're nine

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Speaker 1: to two. Lebron doesn't play, and I was reading this

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Speaker 1: this morning. Lakers improved the nine and two this year

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Speaker 1: when Austin Reeves and Doncics played together without Lebron. Lebron

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Speaker 1: is the second slowest player in the league right now.

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Speaker 1: He is not a plus defender. He is not having

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Speaker 1: a great jump shooting year. So Jayden daniels McDaniels just

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Speaker 1: on the ability to catch and shoot and not have

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 3: That's just one player.

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Speaker 1: And the Lakers will have the money to go by

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Speaker 1: two or three players this offseason give up picks. So

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Speaker 1: having lucas a little bit like having the coolest convertible

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Speaker 1: sports car in the neighborhood. It's awesome, but you're going

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Speaker 1: to have to have a second means of transportation unless

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Speaker 1: you live in like Miami. And I think when you

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Speaker 1: have Luca, you have to have other components on your team,

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Speaker 1: catch and shoot shooters, elite wing defenders. And so it's

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Speaker 1: not a knock on Lebron, it's Lebron is a really

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Speaker 1: really still high end player. This doesn't work. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm watching that game against the Knicks and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: between Ruey and Luca and Austin Reeves, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's young guy energy, and they're not great defenders. But

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Speaker 1: the Lakers really had a nice defensive effort because they

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Speaker 1: had great energy.

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Speaker 3: So, and it goes back to Jade McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's averaging more points, more rebounds, and assists, but that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make him a better fit.

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Speaker 3: And I've said this for years.

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook was better than ninety percent of the NBA

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Speaker 1: in his prime, but he didn't Necessarily he would not

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Speaker 1: have fit on the Warriors when you had Steph and

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Speaker 1: Clay and Durant in elite shooters that needed shots. Westbrook

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Speaker 1: was as talented as almost anybody in the league for.

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Speaker 3: Like eight years. How do you fit with one ball?

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Speaker 1: And so I thought, I thought that Laker Nick game

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Speaker 1: was a real eye opener. It's like, wow, oh oh,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. Here was Luke on Austin Reeves. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: he's almost talking Lebron Luca on Austin Reeves after the

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Speaker 1: win over the Necks.

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Speaker 11: He's just great being he's teammate, you know, and obviously

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Speaker 11: he needs super aggressive like this, but just you know,

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Speaker 11: play with him. He so easy because he's also a

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Speaker 11: must attention you know, helps others too, So just playing

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Speaker 11: with him it makes my life easier.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I saw the Chiefs are going to

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Speaker 1: sign Travis Kelcey to about a one year, twelve million

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Speaker 1: dollar deal, and it feels a little bit Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey Like when Gronk went to Tampa he was

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Speaker 1: retired and then Brady called him and get down here.

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Speaker 1: I need my security blanket. So number one, Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 1: had over eight hundred yards. He's still really valuable. No

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Speaker 1: other Chiefs target had over six hundred. So secondly, he's durable.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna give you fifteen plus games a year. He

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Speaker 1: didn't run like he used to. He's had eight or

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Speaker 1: nine or ten surgeries. But here's the thing, what signing.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a smart move. I would have

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Speaker 1: understood it if they moved off him, but for twelve million,

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Speaker 1: I totally get it because he's productive, and he's durable,

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Speaker 1: and he's a team leader. He's kind of the soul

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Speaker 1: of this organization. But the other thing it illustrates is

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a very good GM, Brett Veach very good.

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Speaker 1: But it just shows you the number one position in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, the number one most difficult position to draft

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Speaker 1: in the first round is wide receiver. And so I

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Speaker 1: mean it's just heart Xavier Worthy. The Chiefs go out

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Speaker 1: and get zavor Worthy. He's a gadget player. They probably

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Speaker 1: should have taken lad Mconkey he was available, Chargers got him.

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Speaker 1: And then there's Rashid Rice, who just you can't depend

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Speaker 1: on maturity wise. There's Hollywood Brown who's smallish and had injuries,

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Speaker 1: and you'd ideally you're probably saying I'd rather not have

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Speaker 1: to re sign a thirty seven, thirty eight year old

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Speaker 1: tight end, but it he's your cornerstone and you've missed

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Speaker 1: on other I mean, sky Moore was a miss, Xavier

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Speaker 1: Worthy's not a miss, but he feels like a gadget

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Speaker 1: guy for a first round guy. And it feels a

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Speaker 1: little bit like the Lakers pre Luca. That's what the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs feel like. Now the Lakers pre Luca. You're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Lebron's great, but the West is young and a thirty

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Speaker 1: nine year old probably shouldn't be my star. And I

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Speaker 1: kind of feel like you'd hope you could eventually move

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Speaker 1: off Travis kelcey, but and people are kind of banging

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Speaker 1: on the move. My take is, well, he's still productive,

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Speaker 1: he's durable, he's a team leader. He's not going to

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Speaker 1: get in trouble off the field. He may get engaged

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Speaker 1: and married off the field to his pop superstar.

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Speaker 3: But I like, I get it. I'd bring him back too.

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Speaker 1: So I think wide receiver and weapons they're they're never

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Speaker 1: been more valuable, but they're hard to find. And I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: Travis kelce not only was the oldest player to catch

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Speaker 1: a touchdown last year, he was the oldest player to

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Speaker 1: catch touchdown the year before, so and scoff at it's

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Speaker 1: the catch twenty two. You'd ideally hope, I mean the

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Speaker 1: Lakers would ideally hope it's we've had a great time

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Speaker 1: with Lebron, we're going to move off. But he's still really,

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Speaker 1: really productive, and so they've needed him until this year

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Speaker 1: where it feels like Lebron's kind of reached a point

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Speaker 1: where they've got their offense without him, certainly their defense.

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Speaker 1: I think Travis Kelsey is something you have to sign

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Speaker 1: him because they just and again it's not a great

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Speaker 1: wide receiver year. That's why they went and got Kenneth walk.

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Speaker 1: J Mack thinks they're a bunch of old geezers and

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Speaker 1: they're done. And my take is they don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft capital. They have got to help Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 1: So they've got to get a right tackle. And you know, again,

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Speaker 1: as well run as they are, they've had enough draft misses.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Xavier Worthy is a buss. Sky Moore

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Speaker 1: was a miss. McCole Hardman was a miss. Worthy He's

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Speaker 1: not a miss. But Lad McConkie's a different level player.

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Speaker 1: He was available. I mean, Xavier Worthy has had one

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Speaker 1: game in his career over one hundred scrimmage yards.

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Speaker 3: He's a gadget guy. So I think they're kind.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a little bit trapped, and but I

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Speaker 1: mean there's worse things in the world being trapped with

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame tight end who's still durable and productive.

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Speaker 3: But you don't love it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, it's I'm sure Mahomes is thrilled, and

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Speaker 6: the locker room's thrilled. In the stadium, in the league,

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Speaker 6: you know, the league loves Hey. Look the Newlyweds. We've

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Speaker 6: got him on on Monday night, on Thursday night, on Saturday,

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Speaker 6: they're going to be force veted league. But if you

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Speaker 6: look at the roster, Colin, I mean, they lost two

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Speaker 6: starting cornerbacks to the Rams, two starters including their best

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Speaker 6: guy McDuffie. Go look at that secondary they got nobody.

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Speaker 6: The linebackers are weak. I'm just again, I thought the

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Speaker 6: Raiders had an awesome day. I like what you said

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Speaker 6: at the outset. Did do Chiefs have a good day?

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Speaker 6: Getting Travis Kelce back in Payne Kenneth Walker the highest

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Speaker 6: guaranteed money for any free agent running.

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Speaker 1: Ever by way, this is what happens when you pay

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. I mean, we just

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Speaker 1: had a Super Bowl with Sam Darnold on a team

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Speaker 1: friendly deal and Drake May rookie contract. So I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's not hard to figure out bo Nicks should

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Speaker 1: have made the Super Bowl. Drake May did the year before.

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Speaker 1: It was Josh McDaniel in the Conference championship. Why because

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Speaker 1: he's on the rookie contract. So you know, you when

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Speaker 1: you pay Ma Holmes or any quarterback that kind of money,

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Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott, you have to hit. You have to

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Speaker 1: do a John Snyder with a Seahawks. You have to

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Speaker 1: hit on every pick at the top of your board.

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Speaker 1: Not only do they have to be good players, they

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Speaker 1: have to be stars. You have to get Devin Witherspoon,

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Speaker 1: you have to get elite players, Gray's Zabel. You have

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Speaker 1: to hit on star players who can play immediately. And

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's well run smartly GM. But they've missed on

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Speaker 1: just enough. You know, wide receiver, the running back out

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Speaker 1: of LSU late first round.

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Speaker 7: Miss Edwards Hilario.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that was a miss. So they've just it feels

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Speaker 3: a little bit correct me if I'm wrong. Jmack.

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Speaker 1: It feels like the Niners John Lynch has missed on

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Speaker 1: just enough wide receiver talent and Kansas City and they're

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Speaker 1: both well run organizations. But what happens is you get

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Speaker 1: old and you have to re sign old players because

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Speaker 1: you're trying to keep this Super Bowl window open. And

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Speaker 1: I don't see it with San Francisco and their division.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Niners and Chiefs arguably the two

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Speaker 1: best divisions. So I think the Niners and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: to me, feel like they've kind of they and it's

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Speaker 1: not a good draft for what the Chiefs need. Outside

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Speaker 1: of right tackle, it's a good right tackle.

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Speaker 6: I like your Warriors two timelines analogy with the Niners.

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Speaker 7: That's good. The only problem is Brock Purdy. He's my guy.

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Speaker 7: He's no Sep Curry. Okay, no, he's not going to

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Speaker 7: bring him to the super Bowl. That's a tough one,

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Speaker 7: all right.

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Speaker 1: Diana Russini is around the corner. Matt Hasselbeck stopped by

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Speaker 1: one hour down Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Free agency. It's not ending. There's more news coming