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Speaker 1: We're joined now by the general manager of your Cleveland Browns. Again,

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Speaker 1: do we have any barking backers in your in your home,

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Speaker 1: mister Barry.

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Speaker 2: We do. Ozzy the Aussie Doodle.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 1: He's already locked in. Asa Woody in my house locked

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Speaker 1: in as well. Okay, interesting, kind of wild third day.

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Speaker 1: You guys run through a lot of simulations. I imagine

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Speaker 1: this was not on the simulations. But let's start before

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Speaker 1: we get to Shodoor. Let's talk about Dylan Sampson, because

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Speaker 1: you know this is a team and even in your

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Speaker 1: time here, Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt, you have those

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Speaker 1: duos that really worked together. We also have Jerome Ford,

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Speaker 1: who played very well for us last year. How did

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Speaker 1: we end up with two running backs? Was that a

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Speaker 1: plan going in or was that just man, there's a

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Speaker 1: guy here we didn't expect and he's the best player

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Speaker 1: on our board.

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Speaker 2: I'd say that we felt like one of the strengths

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Speaker 2: And we certainly dipped into the bull near the top

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Speaker 2: the possibility that a really quality player at the position

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Speaker 2: could could slip into day three, there are actually three

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Speaker 2: guys that we felt like we're in that bucket. A

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Speaker 2: lot of them are, you know, two of them went

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Speaker 2: and we just felt like it was a pick that

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Speaker 3: And when you hit day three, Andrew, is it more

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Speaker 3: about best player available or need? Uh?

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Speaker 2: It's it's really for us, it's more best player available

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Speaker 2: because at that point, you know, like if you just

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Speaker 2: and so you can't really be or we don't believe

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Speaker 2: in being picky, like, yeah, you'd like it to match

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Speaker 2: more scheme specific at that point because you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: players that typically have more flaws than the rest of

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Speaker 2: the player pool. But we're looking for the player that

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Speaker 2: we think can be a contributor. It doesn't matter the

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Speaker 2: position because quite frankly, just like so many players fail

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Speaker 2: just looking for the best bet we can find.

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Speaker 4: At what point did you say all right, let's go get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was you know, honestly, Andrew was probably once

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Speaker 2: how we could best utilize our final two picks given

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Speaker 2: the position give him. You know how we thought of

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Speaker 2: we thought that was the best utilation, best utilization of

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Speaker 1: All Right, so let's look at this room now, and

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Speaker 1: you got I think a lot of guys that if

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Speaker 1: the same way in terms of the three on rookie deals.

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Speaker 1: Can you pick it, Dylan Gabriel, who you drafted yesterday

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Speaker 1: and you've got the veteran Joe Flacco's obviously got the

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Speaker 1: the competition of three people who are really trying to

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Speaker 2: all three take care of the ball, all three can

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Speaker 2: all three are are a good processors. So that's something

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Speaker 2: All three of those guys, All three of those guys

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Speaker 1: When and I'm sure I don't know that I can't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that that's fair, Nathan. You know,

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Speaker 2: call like the FaceTime Oh uh, you know, honestly, Andrew,

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, particularly with Shador, someone who

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Speaker 2: his request, Like, you know, this is a very memorable

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Speaker 2: You know that that may not have been his experience,

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Speaker 2: I told him on the FaceTime, it doesn't matter where

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Speaker 4: On a human level. And we all just got done

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Speaker 4: obviously they're beaming right like they're they're talking about the call,

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Speaker 3: All saw last time.

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Speaker 4: On a human level, I personally can't imagine what that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think that's tough. You know,

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Speaker 2: But I think that's tough for anyone. It's certainly tough

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Speaker 2: he's grounded in that regard. But that doesn't mean the

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Speaker 2: hour by hour maybe external drama isn't you know, isn't

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Speaker 3: Sure that they had and Andrew. When we talk about

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Speaker 3: We talk so much about that with our organization, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's important for any player. And look

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Speaker 2: the reality of it is. You're not going to agree

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Speaker 2: everyone sees it the same. I think that's especially true

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Speaker 2: being on the same page is different than needing consensus

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Speaker 2: here to have the maximize their ability.

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Speaker 1: You Goltas talk about driving competition, and now at the

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Speaker 1: to have competition. You're going to have three young guys

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Speaker 1: if Shador's got a chip on it. I'm gonna prove

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Speaker 1: everybody wrong, but I'm sure Dylan Gabriel feels like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Your a third round pick to us. Canny Pickett feels

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, all three of those guys. First of all,

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Speaker 2: we know Joe like great makeup. All three of these

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Speaker 2: we're in professional football. Nothing's given, so you know we're

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Speaker 2: not gonna apologize for that. And nothing's given to the

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Speaker 2: we'll make the appropriate decisions at that point.

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Speaker 3: Well, based on my experience, I'm convinced that you want

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Speaker 1: So I think you guys going down the right path.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in here and taking the time

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Speaker 1: the last two days to know that unfathomable amount of

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Speaker 1: on getting everybody together for this, But thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: the time to come in here, and this is exciting.

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Speaker 1: I will ask kind of as coming out of it.

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Speaker 1: You can't fix everything. You can't address every hole in

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Speaker 1: veteran movement and do you expect that to be soon?

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Speaker 2: I guess I wouldn't put it time too I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, probably in every off season we've had some

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Speaker 2: summer signings and that goes from you know, we don't

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Speaker 2: play it, we don't get hit training him until August,

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Speaker 2: we don't play till September. So between the veteran market trades,

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Speaker 2: the cut down, like, i'd imagine that we're going to

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Speaker 2: continue to add players and try and we're definitely going

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Speaker 2: to try and improve the team in terms of certain

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Speaker 2: specific positions. And we did do a lot of work

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Speaker 2: on the O line already in free agency. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that that's like, if we can look, we'll

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Speaker 2: always take a big guy. So if we can be opportunistic,

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Speaker 2: will I think that's probably less likely, you know, other

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Speaker 2: other positions like you know, we could certainly be open

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. Congratulations on a draft that

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Speaker 1: sets this team up. I think we talked about weapons, scoring, competition,

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Speaker 1: now quarterback, a lot of options, a lot of competitions

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Speaker 1: is going to be fun to kind of and I'll

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Speaker 1: see this all playoffs. So thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: being with us.

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Speaker 3: All Right, thanks all right, Browns.

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