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Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff. You should know a product enough. I

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Speaker 1: heart radios. How stuff works, Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck Bryan over there,

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Speaker 1: there's Jerry over there. And this is Stuff you Should Know,

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Speaker 1: the super Topical Timely Edition because Chuck, this episode is

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Speaker 1: about Marty Graw and we're recording it on Marty Graw, right,

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Speaker 1: which in true stuff you should know fashion it will

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Speaker 1: come out a month after. So what we need to

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Speaker 1: out on that Tuesday. Well that would that be like

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, And I've been going around

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Speaker 1: the office showing everyone in my boobs all day. I

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Speaker 1: was wondering you had all those beads. No, I understand. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think we should apologize in advance to to the

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Speaker 1: this specific, we always just get killed. Right, it's so

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, you didn't mention my crew, right, Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've been to New Orleans twice for the

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Speaker 1: shows that we've done there. It was not around Marty

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Speaker 1: Graw read a bunch about it. So now I understand

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Marty Graw better than ever. But I also

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Speaker 1: learned that it's one of those things where it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like like researching humor, where you can understand the

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Speaker 1: mechanism behind humor and you can explain humor, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't quite capture it fully. That's what we're gonna do here.

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Speaker 1: This one will stink right now, it won't. It'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to Marty grow either, and I mean

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Speaker 1: I just have no interest at all, mainly because of

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of cops Marty Gral New Orleans episodes.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna mess up a lot and they'll be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: out our friend Doug Shashary sassy. I even I practiced it,

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Speaker 1: Chuck it's a tough name. Who is at our New

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Speaker 1: And I think the original idea was for the partying

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Speaker 1: which I totally want to do one on minstrel shows.

422
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: Uh to not do it anymore? Other people say no,

423
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: it's it's more rooted in like the mask tradition for us.

424
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if they're still doing that or not.

425
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: As of I was reading on their website about their

426
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: history that this is not the first time they were

427
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of protested by UM African Americ Ricans. In the sixties,

428
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: there was a big like push against him in their

429
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: membership dwindled down to I think sixteen people because it

430
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: was just so unpopular what they were doing. I think

431
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: Louis Armstrong were black face one year as they're really king,

432
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: but they so the Social Aid and Pleasure Club. The

433
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: Social Aid part is that that group started out back

434
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: in the day where UM, and it wasn't just African Americans,

435
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: but I could definitely see during the Jim Crow era

436
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: where African Americans needed to do this. They would all

437
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: chip in like membership dues, and then when they fell

438
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: ill that you know, that larger pot of money would

439
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: take care of them, basically like insurance is supposed to work, right.

440
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: But that's where the Social AIG came from. But they

441
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: still are a charity organization. Interesting, and Dougie Fresh is

442
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: playing at their ball today. Oh really, if you had

443
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: a chance to see sticks or Dougie Fresh, which would

444
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: or too young doug you Fresh? It would be pretty cool.

445
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: I know of Dougie Fresh, but I'm not. I'm not

446
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: hip to those j ms. You don't have to be

447
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: hip to to know Dougie Fresh. Well, I mean it's

448
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: been around. I mean I don't know them. I guess

449
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. I know I'm not hip already. A

450
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: second ago, I think you said balloons instead of doubloons. No,

451
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: I didn't, I think. So let's read why balloons? Uh,

452
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: we need to pass forward. So doubloons are we've reached

453
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: a new low here and here twelve Uh. They are aluminum.

454
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: They are a little coin like objects and they have

455
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: um the Cruise in Sydney on one side and then

456
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: whatever their theme is on the other. They toss these

457
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: out of people. There's a lot of tossing. Yeah, and

458
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: actually those things to balloons, um fall under the larger

459
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: umbrella of throws of balloons. Did I said to balloons this? Okay? Man,

460
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: you got my head chuck. Yeah, those are throws throws

461
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: or anything that is thrown from afloat and usually it's

462
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: a very inexpensive souvenir deeds, very very customary. Those DA

463
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: balloons are a little more UM saw it after a challenge,

464
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: like I think, if it's like um, if it has

465
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: like the groups insignia and then on the other side

466
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: of the theme that year, it's definitely considered a collectible

467
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: and not just generic ones. I guess I think so.

468
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: And then um, like others, other people's throws are like

469
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: other cruise throws are like really sought after, Like the

470
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: zulus throws are coconuts um and like real coconuts. I

471
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: think they were at one point. I'm not sure if

472
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: they had everybody, but I read this Chowhound article about

473
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: throws and they were saying, like, the Zulus don't throw

474
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: coconuts anymore because of legal reasons. Well, it's funny. There's

475
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in here. Um, you might as

476
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: well talk about the kincakes and the chokable that they

477
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: would put inside of the kincake. Uh. If you've never

478
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: had a kincake, it is a big uh sugared cake.

479
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: It's oval with a hole in the middle. It's like

480
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: a Danish yeah, but it's a Danish just like slathered

481
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: in sugar of of purple green and gold and very

482
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: rich and sugary. And the tradition, of course to put

483
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: the little plastic baby Jesus or represented baby Jesus. Initially,

484
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's a naked baby, sure, swaddling clothes. Uh.

485
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: That started what was the guy's name, It's a Donald

486
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: Intrager who started that in the forties. Yeah, the nineteen forties.

487
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: So it's not like a hundreds year old tradition. Yeah,

488
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: and it actually didn't survive terribly long because at some

489
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: point in time in the not too distant past, Baker's

490
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: started to say, we don't want to get sued either.

491
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: Those zulus are onto something. We're We're going to stop

492
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: baking the little plastic baby dolls into this cake. Yeah,

493
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: that just seems insane because people could choke on them.

494
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: So now it comes in like a little pack, like

495
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: a little cellophane package that says stick in at your

496
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: own risks, and then you just I guess you stick

497
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: it in and then lick your hand and smooth icing

498
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: back over to to cover up that part. So I'm

499
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the first time we went to

500
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I think it was around Marty Gras, unless

501
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: they have another big kincake celebration, which they might. They

502
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: don't is that they do. Not. Kingcake season actually runs

503
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: from um King's Day, which is January six, which is

504
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the day that officially kicks off Marty Grass season in

505
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: New Orleans, until ash Wednesday. You're not supposed to be

506
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: able to get a kincake outside of that. So you know,

507
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: it may not have been for a tour, because I

508
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: did take another trip down there with our friends Gus

509
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: and Matt and their son. I can't remember if that

510
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: was the same trip or not, so I'm getting a

511
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: mom mixed up. But whenever we were down there, our

512
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: friends Makes and Jackie who lived there, uh took us

513
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: on like a neighborhood kincake. That traveling party. I think

514
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: that was for our show, because those people I think

515
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about came backstage that first show, Maxing Jackie

516
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: definitely did okay. And then I specifically remember walking under

517
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: a scaffolding bleacher painted green, maybe even purple, and it

518
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: was along a street around It must have been either

519
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: before or after something, but it was during the season,

520
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: so I guess Ultimately, what I'm saying is the first

521
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: time must have been around then. Yeah, And it's also

522
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: both of our recollections together it forms a cohesive. And

523
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm not the first person to uh have various New

524
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: Orleans trips kind of blurred together, blur together in my head.

525
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: But all I know is that kincake thing was I

526
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: felt like strangers, literal strangers were just like, come on

527
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: in and giving you kincake, yes, and every other kind

528
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: of great food and sweet. Yeah, they do have a

529
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: pretty good food down there. Man. So um man, we're

530
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: just knocking the traditions out, aren't we. Else? What else

531
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: should we talk about? The parades? Yeah, I mean there's

532
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: a lot of parades. Uh, you know, fifty sixty, seventy

533
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: eighty parades. I think this year accounted seventy nine nine.

534
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: Like that's the level of commitment you're getting out of

535
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: Josh Clark is hand counting the number of parades from

536
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: the parade schedule. Uh, the twelve days leading up to

537
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Marty Grass, those final twelve days are when now that's Carnival.

538
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why this article was so averse to

539
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: saying it. Yeah, that is weird because they kept saying

540
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: anything but just calling it carnival. Well, no, no, no,

541
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: but it leads up to the day of Marty Gras, right, yeah,

542
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Marty Graz one day of Carnival, Yeah, which is what

543
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: carnival is, the twelve days leading up to Marty CROs,

544
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: including Marty CROs. That's right. But those are concentrated in

545
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: the parishes of Orleans, Jefferson, um St. Bernard and Sant Tammany.

546
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: M Is that how it's pronounced. Probably, But there are

547
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: pre season parades like it has eked out longer and

548
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: longer over the years, is the impression I get. Yeah,

549
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: and just the same that King Cakes become available January six,

550
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: that same day King's Day, there's a couple of parades

551
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: that typically um, a couple of parades or at least

552
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: events that typically um kick off this whole season, even

553
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: though Carnival doesn't start until the second Friday before Fat Tuesday.

554
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: Just chew on it. It's all there. Um. The actual

555
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: Mardy Grass season kicks off on January six, that's right.

556
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: Chew on that naked baby made of plastic. Right, And

557
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: because we should also, we haven't said this one more

558
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: thing about dates and calendars. It's a lot of fun.

559
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: Um because the the Lenten season can change because Easter

560
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: is not on one fixed day. Has to do with

561
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: the moon or like rabbit reproduction or something like that.

562
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: That Um, Marty Gras can actually fall anywhere between February

563
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: three and March nine. That's a big long stretch that

564
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: it could fall on, right, But it has to do

565
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: with when Easter comes, because Marty Grass forty days plus

566
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: six before Easter, that's right, those six Sundays. Right, we

567
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: should have a sideshow called Calendar Talking. We should. It

568
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: would be great. We just launched a spinoff just like

569
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: too Close for Comfort. That's right, Too close for comfort? Right.

570
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: We heard back from a few people on that. So

571
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: it's not a spinoff of anything, right, No, I don't

572
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: think so. Uh So, these crews have themes every year,

573
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: and they they can range. Sometimes it's about a legend

574
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: or a famous story. Sometimes it's a kid's story, sometimes

575
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: something from literature, mythology. I think about half of these

576
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: crews have names that are Greek or Roman in origin. Right, Yeah,

577
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: that's well. I think it's kind of a nod to

578
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: the pagan roots. Um, and it also includes Egyptian stuff too,

579
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: and I saw that the whole idea of wearing masks

580
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: and like masquerade balls and all that actually traces its

581
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: roots back to ancient Egypt. So it's really interesting like

582
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: this this stuff kind of traveled from ancient Egypt to

583
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: ancient I guess Greece and then Rome and the medieval

584
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Europe and then over to the New World and then

585
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: interesting that it's not like it's just been one unbroken chain,

586
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: but it's it's connected enough that the current cruise name

587
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: themselves after like Osiris or Isis or you know who

588
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: isis the deity? Um, they're not down with the terrorists organization,

589
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: right right? Um, that that that there's at least that

590
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: awareness that this is rude to This whole tradition is

591
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: rooted in in in in history that far back. I

592
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: think it's really cool and all brought to you by

593
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: bud Light and show me your boobs. Uh should we

594
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: take a break? Uh sure, all right, let's take a

595
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: break and we'll talk a little bit more about super

596
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: cruise right after this. What's a super crew, Josh, Well,

597
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: a super crew the best crew there there. Well, so

598
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: typically there's a couple of qualifiers. One, they're usually um,

599
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: very well funded, large membership. Um, and they'll have their

600
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: parades will occur within the last few days before and

601
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: including Marty Grawl. Yeah. And these are the ones, like

602
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: you were saying, that have some of them three hundred

603
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: foot long floats or you know, like a hundred floats

604
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: in their crew. These are the ones that get the

605
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: celebrities in that convertible at the front. Yeah. And just

606
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: like having corporate sponsorship, it was customer. You did not

607
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: have outsiders as like the king of your parade. I

608
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: would think so. Um. And then it was the crew

609
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: of Bacchus that was the first to kind of break

610
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: from that tradition. Back in nine nine Danny Kay, the

611
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: famous whig designer. What does that mean? I don't even know. Okay,

612
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: I thought there was some like serious in joke that

613
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: I was no, no, no, okay, just random Yeah, I gotcha,

614
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: but no. He was a famous musical actor, right yeah,

615
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: and wig design Uh. And the the parade format is

616
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: basically where the captain I think we were calling them leaders. Yeah,

617
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: they can't be called leaders to a crew leader. Uh.

618
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: They are at the head of procession. They're usually on

619
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: a float that is, or they could be on horseback

620
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: or in that convertible like we're talking about, and then

621
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: it is followed in succession by officers, kings, queens. Sometimes

622
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: you got maids and dukes and everyone's just having a

623
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: good old time, right, And so you said something to

624
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: about the themes, right, So each parade and press processions theme.

625
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: There's like you said, there's no overall theme to Mardi Gras,

626
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: but there's a theme for each and every parade, and

627
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: the crew selects it every year, and like their floats

628
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: are going to reflect that. But what's funny is they're

629
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: very frequently like children's literature, mythology, um like like historical

630
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: stuff for stuff that everybody knows, like almost bland. And

631
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Speaker 1: the reason that I kind of drew from the subtext

632
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Speaker 1: of this article is there's a finite number of floats

633
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Speaker 1: that you can rent in New Orleans for your parade,

634
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Speaker 1: and a lot of them have things like little bo

635
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Speaker 1: Peep on them, because some of these are rented and

636
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: a lot of them are typically it's just the super

637
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: crew that has the money and the man power um

638
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: to to build a float from scratch every year, and

639
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: so the super Creuse will have like way varying themes

640
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: but like a smaller crew will have a theme where

641
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, they can cobble together some floats, some rented

642
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: floats to make a cohesive um um theme. Yeah, like

643
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: what do you got left too close for comfort? Right,

644
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: the Jim J. Bullock float. But for that year the

645
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: Zulus did the Seinfeld theme. That was right, But the

646
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Speaker 1: but I think that the floats available have to do

647
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Speaker 1: with the theme because um interesting, you know, there are

648
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: just a there's a finite pool and there's a lot

649
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: of them though, so much so that I think St.

650
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Speaker 1: Charles Parish, believe or St. Orleans Parish, one of the two,

651
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Speaker 1: has an ordinance that the same float can't go through

652
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Speaker 1: the business district in more than two parades during one

653
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Speaker 1: Mardi Grass season. Right, so let's say you have a

654
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: pre parade with Little bo Peep. Uh, you can't go

655
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: back out as Little bo Peep. You can you can

656
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: one more time? Oh you can only do it? Can't

657
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: two more? So they give you two? Yeah, the same

658
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: float can't be used more than twice in more than

659
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: season through the central business district. But there's four different

660
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: parishes putting on Marty Gras Parade, So technically that same

661
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: float could see a pretty decent amount. So that's just

662
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: in each parish, just in either or Leans or St.

663
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Speaker 1: Charles Paris, I can't remember, so a little bo peep

664
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Speaker 1: could be seeing lots of action potentially conceivably sure, Yeah, alright,

665
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Speaker 1: but I think that's pretty interesting. It really kind of

666
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: reveals like how seriously they take their Marty Gras parades

667
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, their local laws saying how many times

668
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: a float can be used because they want to keep

669
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: it fresh and interesting. That's right. Yeah. So the other

670
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: thing too, when they're selecting these leaders or the royalty,

671
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: it says sometimes it's just random draws for the king

672
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Speaker 1: and queen. I would think it would a lot of

673
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: more thought would go into it than that, but I

674
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe some of them do pick randomly, not

675
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: if it's coming from your membership, and you know, I think, I, oh, well,

676
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: that makes it fair, I guess, right, because and you

677
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: can't jockey for position, But um, you can also invite

678
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: celebrities other times. Um, you actually will pay for the

679
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: privilege to to be the king or the queen or

680
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: duke or a maid in the court. Um. I didn't

681
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: see how much you would pay, but yeah, it was

682
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: very curious about that. That's pretty rich. Yeah, you know,

683
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: like like we pick you, congratulations, give us some where's

684
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: my where's my two dollars? So the costumes and the

685
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: masks are obviously a big, big part of this um

686
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of money is generated custom rental

687
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: and making original costumes. Um. It is tradition, like we

688
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: said to to leave on your mask, but they're way

689
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: more flexible about it now than they used to be,

690
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: I think. But yes, but Bacchus and Rex I believe,

691
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: are like you can lose your membership if you take

692
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: your mask off during their Marty Gras parade. I'll have

693
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: you killed you well right there in the street, which

694
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: is ruined more than one Marty Gras. Yeah, but apparently

695
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: it's so um like the mask part of it is

696
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: so um ingreened. It's such an ancient part of this

697
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: that goes way back in time that it's still just

698
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: totally widespread today, not just among people in the prey,

699
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: but among people watching the parade too. And this article says,

700
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: you might feel weird actually not having a mask on,

701
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: but street vendors have you covered. You can just buy

702
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: one from one of them. Of course you can. There's

703
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: plastic garbage everywhere to buy and throw. Right. You used

704
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: to sell it, didn't you. Oh? I sold the glow noodles.

705
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: I love those, man. Uh can we talk about moon pies? Sure? Sure,

706
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: So this makes a lot of sense as a throw

707
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: to take the place of something that could really hurt somebody,

708
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: because a traditional throw in New Orleans a sweet treet

709
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: used to be cracker Jack's boxes, which are very you know,

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00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: it's like any tiny box. If you throw that from

711
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: ten or twelve feet away down onto someone, one of

712
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: those corners can hit you in the face and that's

713
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 1: no fun. So the tradition of throwing the moon pie,

714
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: which if you don't know what a moonpie is, you're

715
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: missing out. It is a Southern It's gonna call it delicacy,

716
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: but that might get him at gas station, so it

717
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: really isn't. But they are two Graham cracker cookies, soft

718
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: ones between with marshmallow filling in between, dipped in chocolate.

719
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a portable s'more that's room temperature

720
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: cold and soft. Yeah. Like it's not a hard gram

721
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: right right, it's like soft and crumbly. Yeah, And they're

722
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't had one in years and years,

723
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: but I'm from the South, so I've had a moonpie

724
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: or two in my day. Yeah. You. We went on

725
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: this little kick a few back, yeah, where she was

726
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: like what is this and tribe when she's like, let's

727
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: there's a gas station, let's stop and get a moonpie.

728
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: And it lasted for about a week and a half

729
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: and she's like, so you got gas twice shade to

730
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: basically I think. I mean, they have other flavors now too,

731
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: but the chocolate is the the original. Uh. And they

732
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: started in nineteen seventeen when a salesman traveling salesman from Chattanooga, uh,

733
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: the Chattanooga Bakery ran into as the story goes, a

734
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: coal miner from Kentucky who said, you know what we

735
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: could use down there in the coal mines is a

736
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: a portable snack right afordable? And they came up with

737
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: the moonpie, I guess. And that coal miner was Lauretta

738
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: Loon's father, wouldn't that who That movie was about coal

739
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: miner's daughter. Yea great movie. Uh. And this became a

740
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: big Southern thing, but it didn't become a Marty Graw

741
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: thing until Mobile, Alabama and they're cracker Jack's cracker Jack

742
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: Ordinance two, I said, I think so where they said

743
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: the city actually outlawed cracker Jack's being thrown from Marty

744
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Graw floats because people were getting injured by him or hurt.

745
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: So people said, well, moonpies totally makes sense. You get

746
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: hit in the eye with the moonpie, not a big deal.

747
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: And now if you go to Marty grow in New Orleans,

748
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: apparently you can get moonpies thrown at you all over

749
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: the place. Great, and you don't even have to don't

750
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: even have to duck, nope, or take your shirt off.

751
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: You got anything else? No? I don't either. Happy Marty

752
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: Grob everybody, Happy ash Wednesday? I guess depending on when

753
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: you hear this, Happy Easter? Sure? Okay? Uh And since

754
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: I said happy Easter, of course that means it's time

755
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: for listening mail. I'm gonna call this the long awaited

756
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: fire safety email. Thank you. I can finally clear this

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00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: out of my inn box. I know you've been asking

758
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: me off and on since last August. Hasn't really been

759
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: that long? Yeah, oh man, but not like every week.

760
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm not a sadist. Uh. Here we go,

761
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm a research engineer that studies fired dynamics and material flammability.

762
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: My group has developed campaign to educate the public about

763
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: general fire dynamics, fire safety, and what to do in

764
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: case of a dwelling fire. The cornerstone of this is

765
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: this as good as he thought it was hoped it

766
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: would be. The cornerstone of this campaign is called close

767
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: before you doze, and that is c l O s E.

768
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: Not clothing. Oh, I'm glad you said that. Yeah. Uh,

769
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: it's focused on residents closing their bedroom doors were going

770
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: to sleep because the strategy has been extensively tested in

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00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: large scale and experiments and provide I'm sorry, proven to

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00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: slow down the advance of the fire to provide adequate

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00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: time for firefighters to conduct search and rescue. That makes

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00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: sense to close your doors when you go to bed, Yeah,

775
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: because if a fire does break out in your house,

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00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: it will keep the smoke out a lot longer than

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00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: it would if your doors open, giving firefighters a time

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00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: to come get you. Did you previously sleep with your

779
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: doors open? Have you always been a door closed guy? Uh?

780
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Guiltily must admit that I still sleep with the door open.

781
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm toast. Is there a reason or just like or

782
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: you do you not even care? I don't like is

783
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: it a conscious thing? I know, it's more it just

784
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: feels weird to me to have the door closed sleeping.

785
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, I listened to Stuff you Should

786
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: Know during my morning and evening commutes to really enjoy

787
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: all the research topics and the fine and I find

788
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: that the way Josh and Chuck that's us present the

789
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 1: information has always been very easy for me to relate

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00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: to and understand. I think that it is a great

791
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: medium to help educate the population about the potentially life

792
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: saving difference a closed door can make the event of

793
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: a fire. It's truly stuff everyone should know. And hope

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00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: you think so as well, and help us to get

795
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: this information to the public. A year later almost let

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00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: me see here that is from Mark. Nice work Mark

797
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: who again as a research engineer doing work in fire

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00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: dynamics and safety. Nice work Mark, Thanks Chuck for doing

799
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: that one. Um, I hope you guys listen to Mark.

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00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Don't follow my example. Close your door when you sleep, yeah,

801
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: well you leave ours open to Yeah, we've got animals

802
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: and the kids, like people need to get in and out.

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00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: So uh, if you want to be like Mark and

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00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: let us know a p s A to tell everybody

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00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: we love doing those. We'll get to it eventually. Up promise. Um,

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Speaker 1: you can go ahead and send us an email, wrap

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