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Speaker 2: All right, he passed the first test. What's next. We'll

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Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 2: It is that time, Yes, it is. It's Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday and Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we're broadcasting live from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios and away we go.

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Speaker 1: Here he is, it's football times.

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Speaker 2: So there's none better to talk to than the main

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Speaker 2: man himself, my partner, Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Buck, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I am?

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Speaker 4: Great, Andy, little under the weather, but I'm here and

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Speaker 4: down in New Orleans getting ready for a Jaguar Saints

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Speaker 4: preseason game.

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Speaker 2: You know, I kind of figured it out. You know,

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Speaker 2: it takes me a little longer than others. I'm a

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Speaker 1: I say that.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's all excited about the preseason, and I've saying to myself, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, after the first couple of snaps, you have

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Speaker 2: no idea who's playing, and you're never going to see

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Speaker 2: these guys again, perhaps unless you follow Canadian football.

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Speaker 1: So now I know what the deal is. It's all

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Speaker 1: about excuses.

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Speaker 2: You know, when the preseason plays, everybody has an ex

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Speaker 2: If your team loses, well you know they're not playing

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Speaker 2: their regulars and if a team wins, you got hope. Okay,

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Speaker 2: in particular, now, the Giants beat the Jets yesterday, who

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Speaker 2: was like something like thirty one to twelve, I think

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Speaker 2: it was, and all of a sudden that they got

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Speaker 1: But again it's preseason. What does it mean? Bucky? Tell me?

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Speaker 2: He won fourteen for sixty, pass for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: as well. He's obviously the future for the Giants, but

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Speaker 2: he's not going to play. But I guess the Giant

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Speaker 2: fans have hope right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, whenever you take a quarterback in the first

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Speaker 4: that he gives you some wow moments. And that's what

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Speaker 3: There's some promise. That's what you want.

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Speaker 4: And if you're Brian da Ball, what it does is

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Speaker 4: it gives you hope that at some point during the season,

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Speaker 4: to be positive. Doesn't mean that he's a better option

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Russell Wilson's the guy, been there, done that, played

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Speaker 4: The odds of winning significant games with a young quarterback

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Speaker 4: If we're saying that the young quarterback is our future,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of the quarterbacks that were tossed out in

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Speaker 4: They did not feel good about Geno Smith in New York.

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Speaker 4: It takes him a long time to get an opportunity

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Speaker 3: Oh, he absolutely is.

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Speaker 2: I know how many rated fans are out there. Why

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Speaker 2: I hope he does well. I think he'll do okay.

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Speaker 4: Running backs can come from anywhere. Though he's a terrific player.

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Speaker 3: In the SEC.

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Speaker 4: So great running backs can come from anywhere. I'm willing

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope he is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and look to some extent, he should have

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Speaker 2: maybe won the Heistchman Trophy of a year ago.

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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, that's a debate.

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Speaker 4: I still believe he went to the right guy, Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 4: a good worthy debate. We can't have a spirit of

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Speaker 4: did Mountain West competition, but the numbers are undeniable.

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Speaker 2: Right, no doubt about that. And now I want to

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Speaker 1: The big story in preseason.

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Speaker 2: There's always a story, and this year the story is

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: If your Door Santas does that, it changes the narrative.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's here as a boyish look to him.

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Speaker 3: We need, we need.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this team. This team is going

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is the young quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: And he probably loves it. He probably loves it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, it's certainly motivation, but we don't

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, do you see a team right now

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Speaker 2: Do you see the Bears coming alive? I mean, right now,

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Speaker 4: But it's hard right now with preseason because everyone has

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Speaker 2: And I'll say this, I think there are some underlining

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Speaker 2: They won't say that publicly, but I think they're gonna

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Speaker 4: Preseason, we got to see what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: They'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: to be cracking down on college football players who fake injuries.

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Speaker 2: How they gonna do that? Bucky Brooks telling me, and

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Speaker 2: I want to know, got to be honest. I'll put

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Speaker 2: your hand on your heart. Did you fake an injury

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Speaker 2: when you played? And then how many of these fake

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Speaker 2: injuries really go on during a game?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is a real thing.

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Speaker 4: I never faked an injury. Firstly, like we're taking come on, no,

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Speaker 4: but we did have some and that would tell someone

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Speaker 4: to take a knee. If we were having a tough time,

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Speaker 4: if the team was going really fast, if we were

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Speaker 4: just confused about anything because of the rate of the

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Speaker 4: tempot whatever. We may rub our forms and it come

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Speaker 4: in from the sideline and the Rosie form would just

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Speaker 4: tell everyone somebody taking me, somebody played dead.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: We just yeah, so we were played, we were play

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Speaker 4: we played it. We played those games. That's that's kind

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Speaker 4: of a part of what it is.

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Speaker 1: The games you guys practice that work that out in practice.

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Speaker 4: We absolutely did work it out where we had someone

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Speaker 4: where we were we had a designated fall guy. That's

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Speaker 4: how we call it, irenated fall guy. Someone had taken knee,

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Speaker 4: don't look crazy, just just taking knee, laid there for

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Speaker 4: a little bit. It would allow us to have an

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Speaker 4: informal time out to calm everything down and to get

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Speaker 4: us back on track. So yeah, like I mean, and

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Speaker 4: I hate to admit it, but yeah, we operated like that.

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Speaker 1: No, when you say we is that pro and college?

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Speaker 3: No, that was just pro. That was just in the pros.

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Speaker 4: But I do I wouldn't be surprised if it's trickled

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Speaker 4: down to the collegiate ranks, given how long it's been

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Speaker 4: since I played in the pros. But yeah, that's that

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Speaker 4: is a part of it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: You give the sign we have a designated player that

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Speaker 4: will fall down, and you know, you take a knee

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Speaker 4: and you go out here and you tell the trainer

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Speaker 4: to make sure you take your time and look it

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Speaker 4: over real good, and that it butes a little time

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Speaker 4: to have a little conversation and get everything squared away.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Now, the NCAA Football Rules Committee said players are faking

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Speaker 2: injuries to stop the game clock is going to happen

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Speaker 2: beginning this season. If a player on the field presents

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Speaker 2: as an injured player after the bowl is spoted for

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Speaker 2: the next play, that player's team will be charged a timeout.

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Speaker 2: If the team does not have timeouts remaining, a five

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Speaker 2: yard delayed game penalty will be assessed. I don't know

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Speaker 2: a good bit or and different. I mean how they

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Speaker 2: got to judge that. How do you know if it's

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Speaker 2: real injury or not really well.

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Speaker 4: I mean they have cameras in the stadium everywhere. If

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Speaker 4: they allow the replay move to kind of see what's

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Speaker 4: going on, you just see the guy all of a

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Speaker 4: sudden fall out and nothing has happened. I mean, we've

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Speaker 4: seen it because they caught guys on TV doing it.

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Speaker 4: That's how we know that some teams have quote unquote

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Speaker 4: faked injuries. I mean, if you bring the replay part

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Speaker 4: into it, yeah, there's a way to kind of assess

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Speaker 4: what's going.

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Speaker 2: On, and that player's got to be out of the

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Speaker 2: game for at least one down, even though the team

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Speaker 2: is granted a timeout and he cannot return until receiving

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Speaker 2: the approval of a medical professional.

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Speaker 1: So I guess it.

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Speaker 2: Will not be the trainer on the team, actually a

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Speaker 2: medical professional kind of a guy who is not associated

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Speaker 2: with either team.

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Speaker 4: I would think, yeah, I mean, that makes sense if

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Speaker 4: you want to do a neutral party.

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Speaker 2: All right, So here's my question. I mean, I see

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Speaker 2: that happen. It does happen. You're telling me that basically

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Speaker 2: it's practiced at times with a dummy.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean, the guy does who's to fake

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Speaker 1: an the injury?

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Speaker 2: Okay, but they do it, I guess to slow down

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Speaker 2: the temple of an offense.

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Speaker 1: Is that what they do? I mean, does it really work?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it does work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it works because it allows you to slow down

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Speaker 4: the temple. It's allows you to have a informal time out.

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Speaker 4: The communication to get everybody lined up and organized. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it works. That's why you want to slow it down.

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Speaker 4: Slow the energy, slow the tempo down. It's a way

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Speaker 4: of getting your time out without formally taking the time out.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see this year.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna watch it very closely in the college games,

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Speaker 2: all right. Now, and overtime, he's another college rule. Now

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Speaker 2: and overtime. Each team is going to continue to be

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Speaker 2: allowed one time out and both the first and second

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Speaker 2: extra periods. After the first two overtime periods, now, each

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Speaker 2: team will be allowed only one time out for the

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Speaker 2: remainder of the game. A team was allowed one time

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Speaker 2: out of each overtime period, regardless how many were required

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Speaker 2: to decide a winner. Interesting, I don't know why they

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Speaker 2: would do that. I mean, just to speed the game up,

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Speaker 2: I would think, right, yeah, everything.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to fit it into the TV window, so

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Speaker 4: you don't want it to drag out forever.

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Speaker 3: That's why.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, you know, don't they had commercials, but they won't

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Speaker 2: give you an extra time.

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Speaker 1: Out for the team. I don't get it, But that's

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Speaker 1: just the way it is.

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Speaker 8: I get it.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's another change. Help me out with this one.

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Speaker 2: On kick returns college, if any player on the team

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Speaker 2: holds out his arm to make a tee a te

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Speaker 2: signal during that kick, the team gives up its right

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Speaker 2: to make a return and the play will be whistled dead.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what that's all about. The coaches tell you

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Speaker 2: to make a tea? What was that? Tell me that

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Speaker 2: a deal? I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: Well, the tea, the iron cross signal says that it's

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Speaker 4: automatic touch Bawn, you're not gonna return it. So once

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Speaker 4: you make that, it's almost like a fair caid signal.

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Speaker 4: You know everyone pulls off or whatever. So for competitive fairness,

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Speaker 4: what you want to do is once that signal is made,

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Speaker 4: is done, like there's no change in your mind. Later,

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Speaker 4: once you declare that it's over, the plays over and

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Speaker 4: you have to take the touch back.

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Speaker 1: M all right now?

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Speaker 2: In the Football Championship Subdivision, was that like there used

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Speaker 2: to be NC double A Division two?

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Speaker 1: I would think, right so now that.

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Speaker 2: A okay coach to play a communications through the helmet,

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Speaker 2: that's could be allowed right now?

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Speaker 1: I had no idea it wasn't allowed before.

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Speaker 2: I don't watch a lot of Championship Subdivision games, but

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Speaker 2: why wasn't it allowed before.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know what

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Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed before. You would think that it would

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Speaker 4: already be there, But it's a trickle down. It just

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Speaker 4: was allowed in the collegiate level last year, so sometimes

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Speaker 4: it takes a year or two before the lower levels

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Speaker 4: take on those things.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe the lower levels doesn't have enough money in

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Speaker 2: their budget to buy communication devices for helmet. Could be

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'm just throwing that out the craps.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's an expensive deal.

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Speaker 4: I look at look, it is an expensive deal, and

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Speaker 4: that's why some of the there's the disparity.

625
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Speaker 3: But to level the playing field for everybody, you have.

626
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Speaker 4: To allow no one to do it, or everyone has

627
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Speaker 4: to be able to do it.

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Speaker 2: So help me out here this now, okay, the communication

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Speaker 2: device from a player to helmet and to coach the

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Speaker 2: sideline to the helmet. You're playing in Michigan one hundred

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Speaker 2: and five thousand people, could you honestly hear what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I hear what these I see what these guys do.

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Speaker 2: They put their hand on the side of the helmet.

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Speaker 2: Does it really work? You got one hundred and five

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Speaker 2: thousand screaming lunatics on there in Michigan or any other

636
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Speaker 2: Ohio state.

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Speaker 1: I can't see that even working. Does it work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I think I think it does work. Obviously,

639
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: it's about putting one in. Communication is crystal clear. You

640
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Speaker 4: just have to make sure you cover ear holes so

641
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Speaker 4: the outside noise does the impact it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it works, all right. I'm glad to hear that. Now,

643
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Speaker 1: another question, because I know you have these answer.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching football more often in the college game than

645
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Speaker 2: in the pro game. Some guys on the sidelines with

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Speaker 2: various pieces of artwork, like crazy stuff like looks like designs.

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Speaker 2: I guess their plays, right, Have you seen that? What's

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Speaker 2: the deal with that? Instead of having a communication device

649
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Speaker 2: if they can't hear you in the helmet, that have

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Speaker 2: the guy on the sideline holding up like a big

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Speaker 2: cardboard a sign. It looks like and looks like advertisements,

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Speaker 2: but they're not there. They are various designs. I guess

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Speaker 2: the players know what they are. Is that what it is?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean the plackards on the sideline. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Every I guess character means something offensive or defense.

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Speaker 3: So you have real ones.

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Speaker 4: You have ones that are dummies or decoys that mean nothing. Yeah,

659
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Speaker 4: but they tell you which ones alive and what it means.

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Speaker 4: So as part of the signal and the placard, it's

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Speaker 4: going on for years, like all those things have existed

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Speaker 4: for years. So even with the communication, they still like

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Speaker 4: to use those things, like the.

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Speaker 1: Pros to I don't see pros using that right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Just college because in the pros you have the device,

666
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Speaker 4: you don't need to use it. That's why you have

667
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Speaker 4: the stuff in the headset the quarterback, you have a

668
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Speaker 4: green dot down on defense who gets.

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Speaker 3: The call and relates it to everybody.

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Speaker 4: In college, for years you didn't have those things, and

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Speaker 4: so you had to have a way to get the

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Speaker 4: call in for all eleven defenders or offensive players to see.

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Speaker 3: And so you would see that.

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Speaker 4: And then you also after signs stealing, you'll see the

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Speaker 4: people holding up the shades in front of or behind

676
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Speaker 4: the signaler, so the people in the press box can't

677
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Speaker 4: identify the signal and steal the signal. So all that

678
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Speaker 4: goes on. That's more of a collegiate thing than a

679
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Speaker 4: pro thing.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what you're at.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of people that could steal signals.

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Speaker 2: I think you could throw maybe Jim Harbaugh, we'll get

683
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Speaker 2: into that later on. Maybe Jim Harbor knows how to

684
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: do that. Get into that a little later on. But

685
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: and this is kind of sad. This is kind of

686
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: said that the NC DOUBLEA had to come out with

687
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: this rule. Get this, all forms of gun violence are

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Speaker 2: not permitted, and simulating the firing of a weapon is

689
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Speaker 2: an automatic unsportsmanlike foul. This year of a player simulates

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Speaker 2: the act of brandishing a weapon, it will be considered unsportsmanlike.

691
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Speaker 2: I mean, really, do you have to Is it that bad?

692
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Speaker 2: That's kind of sad. I think they got to throw

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Speaker 2: that out there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it is that bad, and it's sad.

695
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Speaker 3: But you have to.

696
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Speaker 4: Remember, it's not just the game that you're talking about.

697
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: Is the young people that look up to these guys,

698
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: and so when they mimic gun fire in those things,

699
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Speaker 4: then what happens is it falls down to high school

700
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Speaker 4: and youth football or whatever. So this is part of

701
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Speaker 4: double A stepping in, stepping in to make sure that

702
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: the guys are modeling good behavior. You can't get everything

703
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: out of the game, but you can't control.

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Speaker 3: Some of this.

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Speaker 4: And so look I'll plaud them for that because some

706
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Speaker 4: of that gunfire stuff that the kids do is stupid.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is stupid, I will tell you this much.

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Speaker 1: At least the NC double A is addressing it.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's said that they have to do that,

710
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Speaker 2: but I wish the NBA would because I think it

711
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Speaker 2: happens a lot more in the NBA. I mean, when's

712
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: the commissioner of the NBA. He needs to say something

713
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Speaker 2: and maybe throw a technical foul, do something, because you know,

714
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Speaker 2: those kids really emulate those NBA players and I've seen

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Speaker 2: it a lot in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they do, like they do emulate all that stuff,

717
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Speaker 4: and you need to get that out. But it takes

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Speaker 4: a commissioner to step in and say, we don't want

719
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Speaker 4: to see this. It's not it's not professional, it's not

720
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Speaker 4: a good look. We don't want young people copying these things.

721
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Speaker 4: And it's about prioritizing the brand. The NBA has done

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Speaker 4: this before, they did it. David Stern was really big

723
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Speaker 4: on protecting the brand, and you know, you just need

724
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Speaker 4: to make sure that's that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm really surprised that d NC double A

726
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: came out with these rule changes. So close to the

727
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Speaker 2: beginning of the season. I mean you would think they would.

728
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean some of them are really major, but still

729
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: in all you would think that maybe a coach would

730
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Speaker 2: want to run these in in spring practice. Why announce

731
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Speaker 2: these the week before the season starts next week is

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Speaker 2: ground zero.

733
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Speaker 3: It's reminded.

734
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Speaker 4: The coaches already knew what it was, but it's a reminder.

735
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Speaker 4: They come out and when a lot of times we

736
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Speaker 4: catch win of it, the media catch wins of it

737
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Speaker 4: late as we're beginning to have these meetings for broadcasts

738
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Speaker 4: and all the stuff, and they're telling the broadcasters what's

739
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: new for twenty twenty five. That's why we the public

740
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: are just getting it. But the coaches have been well

741
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Speaker 4: aware of this for a few months. They've had these

742
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: discussions with their teams. So this is it's not something

743
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: that is last been It's something that has been done before.

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00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: Okay, And any defensive play within one yard of the

745
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, stationery or not, may not make a

746
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: quit and abrupt move or exaggerated actions that simulate action

747
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: at the snap of an obvious attempt to make the

748
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Speaker 2: offense commit a penalty.

749
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Speaker 1: I get that. Okay, that's big.

750
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: The offense will be held to the same standard as

751
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: any pre snap movement that simulates action at the snap

752
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: is a foul on the offense for a full start.

753
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of been in play anyway, so we

754
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: kind of knew that.

755
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's been in play. It's just about

756
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: making sure. We're talking about competitive equity. Just make sure

757
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: everything is fair.

758
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: All right, We'll see what's gonna go on. I'm gonna

759
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: really have my eye on these fake injuries. It's gonna

760
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: be big in college football. It's gonna be the first

761
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: team that kind of gets thrown the flag on. That

762
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Speaker 2: be really interesting to see what happens on that. All right,

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Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks on Maddy Firman. We have Fox Sports Sunday.

764
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Speaker 2: I'm Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: There's a little controversy here and this man has all

766
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Speaker 1: the answers.

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Speaker 9: As Bucky is next. Fox Sports Radio has the best

768
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Speaker 9: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our

769
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770
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Speaker 2: As Bucky coming right out. That's Bucket Brooks and of

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Speaker 2: course I'm Andy Ferrman. We have Fox Sports Sunday on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio twelve minutes before the top of the hour,

774
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Speaker 2: and we are live from the Fox Bus Radio studio.

775
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: So let's get it go and ask Bucky time at LD.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm ready, I got one on. All right, let's go.

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Speaker 8: Let's go.

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Speaker 10: All right, Bucky, I got a question for you here.

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Speaker 10: So obviously, it's been two weeks for preseason and two

781
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Speaker 10: exceptionally strong performances from who won Jackson Dart for the Giants.

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Speaker 10: My question to you, Buck is, do you think Jackson

783
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Speaker 10: Dart takes the starting spot early in the season.

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Speaker 4: No. I think this plays out over a bit. I

785
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 4: think you have to figure out when the Giants bye

786
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: week is. That's normally the breaking point. That's when you

787
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: want to slide a young quarterback in. I don't think

788
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 4: it happens early. I think, if anything, it happens where

789
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: whenever the Giants have a bye week.

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Speaker 9: LD.

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad you brought the quarterback situation because I

792
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: got a question for Bucket Brooks. I'm gonna ask Bucket.

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Speaker 2: It's a good time to ask him. Of course, let's

794
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 2: ask Bucket time all right now. The Associated Press picked

795
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: their old time all Americans the other day and Tim

796
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: Tebow was named quarterback.

797
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Speaker 1: I got to ask Bucket Brooks.

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00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: What about Vince Young, What about Vinnie Testavarde, What about

799
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: Michael vic Johnny Manziel, Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Cam Newton,

800
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Speaker 2: or even Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 1: Why Tim Tebow?

802
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Speaker 3: What was the question about Tim t Bow? Why is

803
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: he what?

804
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: Like?

805
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: He picked him?

806
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: The Associated Press picked him as the old time quarterback

807
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Speaker 2: on their All American team.

808
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: Probably because of what he did in college. I mean,

809
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: he won the Heisman Trophy in college. In look, he

810
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: was a force of nature. So I can understand if

811
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: they're using the college game as the platform, Tim Tebow

812
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 4: should be up there.

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Speaker 1: Really over Cam Newton, that Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: I mean he did it multiple years, so he, like

815
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow Cam Newton were one year wonders at their

816
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: respect of college's no disrespect.

817
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Speaker 3: But Tim Tebow did it over time.

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Speaker 1: Good point. I knew you'd have the answer. I knew

819
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Speaker 1: you would. All right, Next, how good will quarterback.

820
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams be this year for the Bears under the

821
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Speaker 2: guidance of first year coach Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of hype about him but

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00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: it all comes down to the quarterback and if you

824
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: believe in him. I'm still in waiting to see mode

825
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: when it comes to Kaylen Williams, just because of I

826
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: would say the competitive and emotional maturity. I need to

827
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: see that he's grown. But if he's grown, the talent

828
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: is there. They have the pieces around him, but a

829
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: lot of it depends on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hear what you're saying. Now, this is especially

831
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Speaker 1: for you.

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: Former National Football League players are more likely to be

833
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: living with chronic pain or disability, are more depressed and anxious,

834
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: on a far more likely to have some type of

835
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: cognitive decline than the average man like LD I mean, really,

836
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Speaker 2: Doug him. Okay, do you agree? And how are you

837
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: holding out Bucket Brooks as a former player?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

839
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Speaker 4: I think it can be tough on former players. Now,

840
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: I am lucky knock on wood. Health is good. My

841
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 4: body feels great. But for some of who played maybe

842
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: in the trenches or really engaged in the true physical

843
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: physical nature of the game, yeah, it can leave them broken.

844
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Speaker 3: So yeah, so look, I believe in those studies.

845
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Speaker 4: Because I have seen some of my teammates and fellow

846
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 4: players go through things.

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Speaker 8: Did you just take a shot at me? Andy?

848
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: How slow are you? You must have something I was

849
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: waiting for Lucky to finish. Did you play in the NFL?

850
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: Maybe you got some problems?

851
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 8: Really actually, maybe I need another Wisonator.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. We'll go go down that road another day.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, tell us why Bucket Brooks. College football

854
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: coaches make so much money? And should they?

855
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're bringing a lot of revenue.

856
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: To the school, and studies have shown that the better

857
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: your football and basketball teams are, the more your admission

858
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: rates in terms of more people apply for admission. So look, man,

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00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: outside of the chancellor or a head of thing, they

860
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 4: are very influential in what happens at the collegiate on

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Speaker 4: the collegiate camp.

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Speaker 2: I just I can't believe some of the money that

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Speaker 2: they make. I just how much is Bill Belichick making

864
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: in North Carolina?

865
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: Ten million? Something like that?

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00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah.

867
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Speaker 4: But like if the football team is good, then you

868
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Speaker 4: have more applicants, which leads the more money for the university.

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Speaker 4: The clicks that they see, because every time you have

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Speaker 4: a college game, there's an infomercial or commercial about the university.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense.

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00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 4: I mean, they represent the university in a major spotlight.

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Speaker 4: So I understand, you know, the money that goes to them.

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Speaker 2: See, he's making more money in North Carolina than he

875
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: made his coaching on New England Patriots.

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00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying he made more.

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00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 4: He's making more now, but he's making a hefty chuck

878
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: of change.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Now I got to ask the average man of question, LD.

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Speaker 2: Are you there, I'm asking you a question right now?

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00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 10: Oh, I'm here?

883
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: What's up?

884
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: Right? Okay?

885
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: Now this is ask LD Bucket Brooks said, like when

886
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 2: the football comes are on TV, there's a lot of clicks.

887
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: If you're sitting at home watching North Carolina play and

888
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: they're winning on Bill Belichick's to coach and this stands

889
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: a full would you be inclined to apply to go

890
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: to school in North Carolina because to the football team?

891
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 10: Uh, if I'm a football fan, football watcher, yeah, I

892
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 10: probably would be, especially because just star power.

893
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 8: Yeah I wouldn't.

894
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: I you know, I just never thought of it that.

895
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: But I'll see this because my daughter just went through it.

896
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: She's won the University of Texas. She wanted to go

897
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: somewhere with an atmosphere, and so we're watching Texas football

898
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: and Texas basketball, but football and particularly the energy around

899
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: the football team, particularly when they went in the playoff run,

900
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: made her want to have that experience. So, yes, it

901
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: does impact young people.

902
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: I believe you. Believe me. I believe you. There's no

903
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: doubt about that. Do we have time for one more?

904
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: L d Oh? We guess we do not?

905
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: All right, we'll continue that, but right now, guess what

906
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: he wants to play again? That and so much more

907
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: on Fox What's Sunday coming up right here next?

908
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: All right?

909
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: His former team is BUCkies number one. Yeah, I'm going

910
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: to find all about that in just About It. And

911
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

912
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm and Deferman, and we're

913
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And away

914
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: we go. And Buck, I know you had a big week.

915
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: I know you're a little bit under the weather. You're

916
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 2: drinking that tea with lemon.

917
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: I am it's funny because I just I just went

918
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: out the room.

919
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: I just made sure I went to the microwave to

920
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: heat up another cup so I can.

921
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: Try and make it through this segment.

922
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pressure. You know, I'm gonna take it

923
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: easy on you. I need you, I love you, and

924
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: then we're gonna move on. Right now, I got a

925
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: couple of things I want to clean up before we

926
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: get into the heavy duty lifting, all right. Number one,

927
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: what happens to the La Rams without Matthew Stafford this year?

928
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: Because I worry about a thirty seven year old guy

929
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 2: with a bad back.

930
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: They'd be fine.

931
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: They're figured out like it, they'll get to it. I

932
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: do worry about him when it comes to like being

933
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: able to hold up, But Shari Vay's confident, you know,

934
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: he's confident figured it out. It helped that you have

935
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo in the fold and also steps and minute.

936
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo is good enough for them to kind of

937
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 4: work around some of his deficiencies to still win games.

938
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: But it's certainly not Matthew Stafford. But I believe in

939
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: Less Snead. I believe in Seanmvay. They can figure this out.

940
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: If he's not available.

941
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: That that's a big deal.

942
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: That what you just said right there is that I

943
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: don't think a lot of people feel the same way,

944
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: especially maybe RAM fans. But that's big when you just

945
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: said that they'll be pretty good even if Matthew Stafford

946
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: doesn't play. That's huge because you have that much confidence

947
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: in that coaching staff.

948
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like I am fine with them figured it out.

949
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: So you know they're figured out. They'll get it done.

950
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 4: And the Rams are one of those teams that they're contender.

951
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 3: People don't talk about them being a contender.

952
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: But they look. They took the Eagles to the matt

953
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: last year. It had an opportunity to do it.

954
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: This year.

955
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: They have a better roster, and if Matthew Stafford is available,

956
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: they certainly can go the distance.

957
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 9: All Right.

958
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: A story popped up just the other day, and I

959
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: got to share it with you because it really it

960
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: kind of made me a head spind Really, a University

961
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: of Kansas received a three hundred million dollar gift from

962
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: a donor by the name of David Booth, and the

963
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: school announces, I think it was like Wednesday or Thursday,

964
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: the largest gift in school history, among one of the

965
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: largest in the history of college athletics. The first question

966
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: is why on Earth? I guess he just loves Kansas.

967
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: Maybe he went there, his family went there. I don't know,

968
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: but you got to believe that you could probably feed

969
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: a small country, you know, rather than give money to

970
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 2: a school.

971
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: But that's his deal. I'm gonna tell anybody what to

972
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: do with their money.

973
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 2: So I don't like to listen to sports talk radio

974
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: when guys behind the microphone are telling people or telling ownership,

975
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: spend this sign this guy.

976
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: Now, it's not your money. Let him do what he

977
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: wants to do.

978
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: I know that fans in Dallas want Jerry Jones to

979
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: sign Michael Parsons, and I know fans not Ey want

980
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: to see Trade Henderson gets signed. But I don't think

981
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: it's my place behind the microphone to tell Mike Brown

982
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: or Jerry Jones how to spend their money.

983
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 1: You don't want to sign the guy, fine, is it wrong?

984
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: I think so? But you know it's it's not my money, right,

985
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: that's the way I feel.

986
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: That's what you feel, So you don't. You don't care

987
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 4: about how they spend the money. You're just a loyal

988
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: fan that that doesn't have a stake in the team.

989
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: So whatever they do, you're good. So you're okay with Cincinnati.

990
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: I question Jerry and Mike Brown not signing these guys.

991
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: I think it's crazy. I think it's crazy that a

992
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: guy may not want to play it because of that.

993
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to stand on my head and

994
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: start scimming sign them getting the money. No, it's not

995
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: my money. It's not my like I would never tell

996
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: anybody what to do with their money. I don't think

997
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: it's right, but I think what he is doing for

998
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: the fan base and for the image of the team,

999
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: both Jerry Jones and Mike Brown, I think it's wrong.

1000
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: I think it just looks bad because they have the money.

1001
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: They do have it, Yeah, they have it, and they

1002
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: should spend it. And it's weird to me that they

1003
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: don't want to spend it. And I think some of

1004
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: these owners realize this look his business, not whatever they

1005
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 4: want to do, just enough to seduce everybody in and

1006
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: then that's it. But that's not good enough, Like you

1007
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: should spend the money to field a winning team, because

1008
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: if you build a winner, do you make even more money.

1009
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: That's why it doesn't make sense to me.

1010
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: Well, and again what doesn't make sense to me is

1011
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: a guy like David Booth putting down three hundred million dollars.

1012
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if I had that kind of money, I

1013
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: don't think I donated to school. I just I don't know.

1014
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather give it to people that need it.

1015
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that's just me. But three hundred million

1016
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: dollars is seventy five million is going to go towards

1017
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: the second phase of a four hundred and forty eight

1018
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: million dollar overhaul of the football stadium for the University

1019
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: of Kansas.

1020
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's great that Kansas has a

1021
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: guy like this.

1022
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: But my question is this, I think maybe the NCAA

1023
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: should put a cap on how much money donors or

1024
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: anybody could give us school, because now Kansas has got

1025
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: great facilities, more so than any other school maybe in

1026
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: the conference.

1027
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: Don't you think there should be some sort of a

1028
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: capping thing. No, okay, it's just.

1029
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 3: Not at all. I did all right, Why it's fair?

1030
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: You want to have an even playing field, you know,

1031
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: I mean it was. It's a recruiting device. I mean,

1032
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: now a kid goes out to Kansas and sees this

1033
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: stadium with a great facility and great into locker room

1034
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, and you know, supposed to going

1035
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: to another school. He sold on that because of the

1036
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: money put in there.

1037
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: Have better lums do better stuff.

1038
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: You can tell me, what is that?

1039
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Rudy, Pudy, you can't compete with Ohio State.

1040
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: I mean that's you know, like have better lums and

1041
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 4: be active when it comes to soliciting the money from

1042
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: those alums who have success and find a way to incurp,

1043
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: like you know, encourage them to come back and get back.

1044
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: So now I'm not with you on that. You're own

1045
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: on your own on that one.

1046
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: Anything, All right, I'm on an island. There we go, Now,

1047
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: I move along. Guy. I said that.

1048
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: Coming up too the segment, this guy wants to play

1049
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: and apparently he's not done yet, and we're talking about

1050
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: the NFL wide receiver Odell Beckham Junior. He says he

1051
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: wants to play again, and there were I guess fake

1052
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: reports on social media that he retired. First of, how

1053
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: in the hell does that happen? I mean a fake report.

1054
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: You talked to the guy and he says, I want

1055
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: to play now. They said there were fake reports, so

1056
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: much just sort the report that he's going to retire.

1057
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand that at all. I mean, I.

1058
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 4: Mean sometimes people assume that it's over, but people have

1059
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 4: said that he's been contacted by teams there's teams with

1060
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: interest in him, which is Look, it's really amazing because he.

1061
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: Landed in what I thought was.

1062
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 4: Gonna be an ideal situation for him when he was

1063
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 4: in Miami, but it just didn't work out.

1064
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: It'd be interesting to see which teams are there.

1065
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: Look, he's a serviceable number three, number four wide receiver

1066
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: at this stage of his career. I would say it

1067
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: depends on the money. You know, how much money is

1068
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: a team willing to pay a veteran receiver to come

1069
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: in and beat the number three.

1070
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: He can catch and do those things.

1071
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: But I mean, there's been a minute since he's been spectacular.

1072
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: And some of that is due to the fact that

1073
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 4: he towards ACL and that Super Bowl. But he really

1074
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: helped the Rams back then. But man, you know, a

1075
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 4: couple of years, a few years, that's a lifetime in

1076
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: the NFL. I don't know if you'll ever be a

1077
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: major contributor. But if you want some veteran experience since savvy,

1078
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 4: maybe Obj can be your guy.

1079
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: Okay, he's thirty two years old. He has not played

1080
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: a full season in six years. That's big, it really is.

1081
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: And you talk about the Dolphins, he played for them

1082
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: last year, but he only had nine catches. So you say,

1083
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: there's a spot for him somewhere, and there are some

1084
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 2: needs for some teams for at least a three guy.

1085
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: And I looking right now with the Minnesota Vikings because

1086
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson right now, he's got a hamstring and that's

1087
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: kept him out, so there's a possibility there. And then

1088
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison he's gonna miss the first three games because

1089
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: he's suspended, so maybe the Vikings will pick him up.

1090
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: That's a possibility, right, So I'm looking at some of

1091
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: the teams.

1092
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 4: That, oh, yeah, you know what, that's not a bad

1093
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: spot because Kevin O'Connell I think he was with the

1094
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 4: Rams back then when Odell had the thing. OBJ has

1095
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: a relationship with Justin Jefferson, obviously the LSU Ties.

1096
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 3: Maybe that'll be a spot.

1097
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 4: Whether locker room could absorb his big personality, that's something

1098
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: that you have to at least discuss. Not saying that

1099
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 4: he's a bad guy, but you just have to there's

1100
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 4: a lot of tension that normally comes along with OBJ

1101
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: stepping in the building. But not a bad sign, particularly

1102
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: because young quarterback JJ McCarthy. You can eed weapons you

1103
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: gonna lose Addison could be a good fit.

1104
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: All right, what about bringing it back for the Giants?

1105
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: But I think the Giants fans would love that. Plus

1106
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: you got two receivers on it, the elite neighbors. Okay,

1107
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: he's that the number one guy, Darius Slayton, But other

1108
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: than that, there's really not much depth. I think the

1109
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: Giants may go for him. What do you think Giants?

1110
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 4: He may want that. I don't know if day Ball.

1111
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if day Ball wants that. I think

1112
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 4: he wants a nice, quiet locker room, doesn't want a

1113
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 4: lot of attention on him and those things that will

1114
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: put the attention on him for sure.

1115
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: Don't know if that's what he wants.

1116
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: Okay, if it's not the Giants, let's go for the Jets,

1117
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: because after Garrett Wilson, I don't know who they have

1118
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: as a receiver.

1119
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: They don't have anybody, you know.

1120
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: But once again, do you want to bring that in

1121
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 4: to the Jets, like new coach Aaron Glynn, do you

1122
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 4: know Obj well enough to make sure that he's gonna

1123
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 4: be positive and supportive of the new play and the

1124
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 4: new agenda. Those things have to be vetted out because

1125
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: veterans are not inclined to change their way. So you

1126
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: have to make sure that you know how he operates

1127
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: and gets down as a way that you want your

1128
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: team to operate.

1129
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: Okay, you're talking about veterans are changing their way. Let's

1130
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: talk about the veteran himself. Aaron Rodgers with the Pittsburgh Steels.

1131
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: He's got DK Metcalf. After that, who do they have.

1132
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: I think here's the guy that if they could go

1133
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers, they could go for OBJ. I think

1134
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: there is a possibility maybe in Pittsburgh. Perhaps, I don't know,

1135
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: And I think that if Aaron Rodgers would want him,

1136
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: they'll get him biggest. Obviously, he hadn't picked the Jets

1137
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: team last year, didn't he?

1138
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: I mean he did. I don't know if Pittsburgh signs

1139
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 4: up for that. And this is why Roman Wilson is there,

1140
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: guy second year player from Michigan. They have Robert Woods

1141
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: already in the building, a quieter guy or whatever you

1142
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: think you have to You just got to make sure

1143
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: in terms of blending personalities, that is good.

1144
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: Now.

1145
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 4: Jaylen Ramsey who they brought in Ken vauchram he was

1146
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 4: on the other side of deep of that team when

1147
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: the Rams had OBJ, maybe he could say that he

1148
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: would be the perfect fit and those things look OBJ

1149
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: said he had multiple options, you know, or people that

1150
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: around him have said that multiple teams have contacted him.

1151
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: He has to or he will likely look at the

1152
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: situation in which team gives him opportunity to get closer

1153
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: to another Super Bowl. Rate.

1154
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but we do a great Minnesota as a possibility.

1155
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw on another one, which I think is

1156
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: a real possibility as well, the San Francisco forty nine ers,

1157
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: because right now, Brandon Ayuk, I mean he's gone, right,

1158
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: he's with the ACL there anyway, he's.

1159
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: Out of there. They got George Kittle.

1160
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey's never healthy, he never plays a full season.

1161
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: So I think the forty nine ers would love him.

1162
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: Uh let's see, how would he fit? I mean, he

1163
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: could fit in there.

1164
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 3: I don't.

1165
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: I don't know like the way the Niners fancy themselves

1166
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: or the way they're positioning themselves.

1167
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: They just moved off of Debo.

1168
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like they're embracing a lot of I

1169
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 4: don't say glitz and glamour when it comes to their

1170
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 4: locker room.

1171
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a great fit. I don't

1172
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: know if they.

1173
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean the decimated even before the season starts. They're

1174
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: really hurting.

1175
00:52:59,000 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 3: Really hurt.

1176
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: But you don't va from me standard like, because what

1177
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: will what would crush him? As if Kyle shana here

1178
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 4: knows early. Yeah, this dude isn't for us, not for me.

1179
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 4: It's not what I'm looking for. Just got to make

1180
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: sure he fits into the environment.

1181
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: All right.

1182
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: Now, I want to move into the meat and potatoes

1183
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: of Bucket Brooks, which is the NFL dot Com. I

1184
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: love it, you know, I read it all the time.

1185
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: And we went from offense now we're going to defense.

1186
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: I want to know how you did this. You pick

1187
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: the top defensive fronts this week and I was shocked

1188
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: with number one before we get to that, But how

1189
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: do you this? This is difficult to me. I couldn't

1190
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, you played the game, so obviously

1191
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: you have a different eye than I.

1192
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: Would ever have.

1193
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: But still in all, it's just difficult, especially at this

1194
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: time of the season. It's easy to pick it up,

1195
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: you know, after the first month maybe, but to.

1196
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: Pick it up before they play, I think that's tough.

1197
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: Oh it's tough, But that's why we do it.

1198
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: We don't run it right from like tough stuff like

1199
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 4: hard things are hard. So it was hard to pick

1200
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: three teams, teams that you really feel great about their personnel,

1201
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: then the tactics utilized to maximize them. But I feel

1202
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 4: good about the three teams on the list.

1203
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 2: I can't believe that you have the New York Football

1204
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: Giants as the number one top defensive front Sell me

1205
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: on that. How did that happen? I mean, Dexter Lawrence

1206
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: is there right. I just didn't think they were that good.

1207
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: I mean, if you just look at them on paper,

1208
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 4: they have everything that you want upfront. And I didn't

1209
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 4: fully explain this in the piece, but you go back

1210
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: to licking the blueprint that the Giants have used to win.

1211
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 4: It has always been about their front four being able

1212
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 4: to get it done. So going back to when they

1213
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 4: wanted most recently with Tom Coffin and those guys, you

1214
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: think about Michael straighthand ocihu Manure, Justin Tuck, matthias Ki

1215
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 4: and Nuka, those four guys being able to create that

1216
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: NASCAR front when he got after the quarterback knocked off

1217
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 4: Tom Brady twice. Let's go back to the Bill Parcells,

1218
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 4: Bill Belichi Days, Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall up front,

1219
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 4: they're able to dominate Jim Burt in the middle. This

1220
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 4: is what the Giants do when they're loaded on the front.

1221
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for a second.

1222
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to when I was a

1223
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: kid to the Alley Sherman Coach Jays when they had

1224
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: Sam Huff, Jim Katkavich and Andy Ropostellia front.

1225
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't do that because I have to

1226
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: see it.

1227
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: I watched the Giants then.

1228
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was on those those tapes and

1229
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: films that are all jumpy on the TV.

1230
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: I could make it.

1231
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, black and quarterback in Yeah.

1232
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, I appreciate that, Like I can go

1233
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 4: back to Frank Gifford days. But they're like, you're way

1234
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: way beyond my uh my knowledgement back then.

1235
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 3: I just little.

1236
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: You were a little dumper back then. You're a little

1237
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 4: dumper running around watching that was yep, But.

1238
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: That's what they did.

1239
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, So you think, I mean, is that

1240
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: is that common in football that they just take from

1241
00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: years past?

1242
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: This is our stuf. The Bears kind of do that too.

1243
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: They've always been a defensive mind the team.

1244
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: I mean, they've always been their best when they've been that.

1245
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 4: Thinking about the Pittsburgh Steelers and what the Pittsburgh Steelers are,

1246
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 4: they're defined by the Steel curt no matter what.

1247
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: They do, who they are.

1248
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: They never deviate away from that, particularly when it's been

1249
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: a championship formula for you. Nah, you never go away

1250
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 4: from that. That's the blueprint because you've seen that work.

1251
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: That's why it always stays front of mine. Because of

1252
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 4: the success that you had previously.

1253
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: Mm hm. And you like the Giants number.

1254
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: I mean, if they could get some sort of an

1255
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: offensive going, you think they could be somewhat of a fight.

1256
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Could they be PROI plus five hundred this year?

1257
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: You think I could be.

1258
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 4: I mean the division is tough, but you just never

1259
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 4: know how it's gonna go. Normally, somebody comes back to

1260
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 4: the pack. There's always surprised when we thinking about surprise teams.

1261
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 4: You have to be great in something. The Giants potentially

1262
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: could be great on defense if they unlocked that front,

1263
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 4: that front four and they get after the passer. I'm

1264
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 4: do a card as a problem. Dexon Lawrence is a

1265
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 4: minutes on the inside. You got two speed guys on

1266
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: the outside. Brian Burns came on Thibodeau. They have talent,

1267
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 4: you know, if they can run the football and take

1268
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: care of the football. Because remember just a few years ago,

1269
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: Brian da Bol had this team at eleven to five

1270
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 4: winning a playoff game on the road in Minnesota.

1271
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: It's Minnesota.

1272
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: He understands, he understands how to play winning football. He's

1273
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: done that. Don't let the two bad years take away

1274
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 4: from what he did his first season. He's good enough

1275
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: to get the team in to the winner's circle if

1276
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: he has enough talent.

1277
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: They got enough talent to be able to win some games.

1278
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: Okay, now this scares me a little bit because they're

1279
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: number two team. I always show was a tremendous offensive

1280
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: ball ball club and now you're talking about the second

1281
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: best defense and that'll be the Minnesota Vikings.

1282
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah in Minnesota. Man, they loaded.

1283
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: They came back after a great year last year. You know,

1284
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: they messed it up the last two games season. That

1285
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 4: kind of looms large and everyone is worried about the quarterback.

1286
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 4: But defensively, chaos will ensue because Brian Floores has the

1287
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: kind of personnel to create problems. Uh, they go and

1288
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: get Javon Hargraves Jonathan Allen in the offseason. They already

1289
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: had Andrew van Ginkel. Uh, they had Jonathan Gynard Grenard.

1290
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: And then you have those two guys.

1291
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 4: I mean they're sack artists, right, and then you got

1292
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 4: to nose tackle and Harrison Phillips, who's a problem. They're

1293
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: loaded and Brian floyd is will change the picture behind

1294
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: that defense. They will bring pressure to create one on

1295
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: one matchups. Uh. Yeah, they're they're they're problematic, They're a

1296
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: tough they're a tough team to deal with.

1297
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: I think they're front four could be better than the Giants.

1298
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: Could be.

1299
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: I think could be. Well, we'll see could be.

1300
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: We'll see how they played out.

1301
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, they three.

1302
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm shocked again because said I'm always looking at the

1303
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball on this club as well.

1304
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: Number three you got to Houston Texans.

1305
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 4: I really Yeah, maybe I've been Texas too long, but

1306
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: agetown putting it down Will Anderson, Danil Hunter, both of

1307
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 4: those guys they commnd for like twenty three sacks. They

1308
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 4: get after it. They can hunt the quarterback. Uh, they

1309
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 4: have some veterans on the inside who have Danilko Archry,

1310
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 4: somebody helps Sheldon Rankins, who helps Mario Edwards.

1311
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: I mean they have some veteran pieces to also.

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Speaker 2: Ryan's dad coach. You said, a defensive minded coaches Demo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, super aggressive, really solid, does a great job, great job.

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Speaker 1: Of ta take a sip of tea that I think

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Speaker 1: you need to.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta keep the sentences short. They gotta

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Speaker 4: keep the sentences short. But they are really solid up

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Speaker 4: up front. When you think about H Town being able

1319
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: to get after it, they get after it because Demiico

1320
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 4: Rans is aggressive on defense and we talked about their front,

1321
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 4: but they also have some guys in the back end

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Speaker 4: that can help them mask some of those issues too.

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Speaker 2: All right, type of bucket, taking more tables right now.

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That translates to

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine

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Speaker 2: this hour, Yay on A the blame game an hour

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Speaker 2: number three and what is this? Are we comparing NFL holdouts?

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Speaker 2: Now that's next. We got bad news for Joe and

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Speaker 2: that's right around the corner. Okay, he is Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm a deferwa who are alive for the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: radio studios, and we're going to have yay you on

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Speaker 2: A in about ten twelve minutes for now, But right now,

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01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: I got to run this by. You know, it's told

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: about preseason football for a second. And I turned the

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: game on and after like the first couple of period

1345
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: back really after the maybe the first two or three sets,

1346
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Speaker 2: I'm turning it. I watched Atlanta the other night against Tennessee,

1347
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: and I have no idea who's playing right. I'm kind

1348
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: of switching over, believe it or not, following baseball down

1349
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Speaker 2: the home stretch.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm nuts. What about you, because I know you're

1351
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Speaker 1: a big Dodger fan.

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01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: Look, I'm following the Dodgers.

1353
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 4: There's a lot of conversation about San Diego de Padres

1354
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Speaker 4: taken over.

1355
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Speaker 3: But the Dodgers, in typical.

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Speaker 4: Dodgers fashion, when it's time to step up and get

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01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 4: it done, they're getting it done.

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: But to me, I mean, right now, I think baseball.

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Speaker 2: To me, maybe I'm wrong. It's a little more interesting

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Speaker 2: and more meaningful than preseason football because I have no

1362
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Speaker 2: idea who's playing. But I will watch Washington Cincinnati tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: I'll do that, and I kind of glanced a little

1364
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: bit back and forth. But you know, after the first quarter,

1365
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Speaker 2: really and truly, you have no idea what's going on.

1366
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: It's it's for the coaches. It's it's an evaluation. Guys

1367
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: are trying out and they want to see it. But

1368
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Speaker 2: as you told me last week, if there's a fifty

1369
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: three man roster, you know probably forty five guys that

1370
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: already decided who's going.

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Speaker 1: To be on the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. You already kind of know. You

1373
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 4: go in with some battles in mind. You may have

1374
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 4: three or four battles that you're paying close attention to.

1375
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 4: But most of the team is already said, So you're

1376
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: trying to finalize those four or five battles in which

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Speaker 4: guys are gonna make your practice squad while also having

1378
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 4: an eye on the waiver wire and looking around the

1379
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Speaker 4: league to see if there's anyone elsewhere that could come

1380
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Speaker 4: in and help you beyond what the current personnel you have.

1381
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Speaker 3: In the building can do.

1382
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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, I said coming upo the seven that we

1383
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: got bad news for Joe, I would say, Joe, that's

1384
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.

1385
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Speaker 1: What do I mean by that?

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to the NFL dot Com, which you

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Speaker 2: wrote for this week. Now you got the top defensive

1388
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: backfields and he plays two of the three of them

1389
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Speaker 2: twice this year, and one of us to Baltimore Ravens.

1390
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Speaker 2: I had no idea that Baltimore Ravens backfield is that

1391
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: strong of that good. I know they got Marlon Humphrey,

1392
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: but he's been there like the ages there, the dog ages.

1393
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: All right, you got to believe eventually he's going to

1394
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: slow down. But other than that, who did I have?

1395
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Speaker 2: I didn't think they were that good, the Baltimore Ravens

1396
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: the backfield the least.

1397
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Speaker 4: No, but what they did is They picked up Yarry

1398
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: Alexander off the scrappyet from the Green Bay Packers, and

1399
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Speaker 4: even though it didn't end well for Alexander, you talk

1400
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Speaker 4: about a guy who has a Pro Bowl pedigree, someone

1401
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 4: who can cover and defend at a high level, can

1402
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 4: play mannor zone. Gives them the flexibility to do a

1403
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 4: few different things. You've alluded to. Marlon Humphrey, who's kicked

1404
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 4: inside as a nickel, has a great knack and sense

1405
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Speaker 4: for knocking the ball away.

1406
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins came on as a young player with speed.

1407
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 4: Cal Hamilton is a force in the box, but last

1408
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Speaker 4: year they had to remove him from the boss because

1409
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 4: they had issues at free safety. Well, now you go

1410
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Speaker 4: and get Malachi Sparks to come over from Georgia. This

1411
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: is a team that has loaded high IQ Zachndary will

1412
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 4: give zachary Or a lot of freedom in flexibility to

1413
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 4: come at people in a variety of different ways.

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Speaker 2: You know, they didn't miss a step when they lost

1415
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Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator, did they, Baltimore?

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01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 1: They really didn't look.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, it's not the same because Mike

1418
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 4: McDonald was terrific. Zachary Or's young former player who's learning

1419
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 4: how to call the defense. That's why they had some

1420
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 4: old heads kind of coming to the building as coaches.

1421
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Speaker 4: Chuck Pagano is back as a defensive assistant, senior defensive assistant,

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Speaker 4: helping out doing some things to make sure that or

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01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 4: has a sounding board and that'll help him in the

1424
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 4: second year calling plays because it's a lot thrown at you,

1425
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: but the talent is there. They'll eventually get to tack

1426
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Speaker 4: this up to par. Because this team, the.

1427
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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens then the most talented team in football.

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Speaker 4: Now the excuses are dwindling as far as why this

1429
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Speaker 4: team hasn't gone to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of now never heading into twenty twenty five

1431
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: for this unit.

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Speaker 1: You think they're the best team in football. I mean,

1433
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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 4: I really on paper, On paper, they're the most talented team.

1435
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 4: I won't know if they're the best team. And two

1436
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 4: we get into the postseason and I'm able to get

1437
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 4: a sense of their emotional maturity.

1438
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: That is the thing that is held them back.

1439
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: They are too emotional in the biggest games and it

1440
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 4: has led to them imploding in those games. AFC Championship games,

1441
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 4: Divisional round games if they can control their emotions and

1442
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 4: just let their talent overwhelm people. This is sports champ

1443
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 4: right in front of us. But it's the emotional part.

1444
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: They to control it.

1445
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: The coaches, but also the players have to recognize that

1446
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 4: it's an issue. The players have to recognize that in

1447
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 4: these moments, they gotta they gotta walk away. They got

1448
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: to lock in and focus and keep the main thing

1449
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Speaker 4: the main thing.

1450
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Speaker 2: Not many people are talking about it, and I think

1451
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: that he's done a pretty good job of like going

1452
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: under the radar. But they lost an offensive weapon in

1453
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker.

1454
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: Uh, they did, But he's coming off a disappointing year,

1455
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 4: you know, like and look at something standable given what

1456
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: he was in broad in and what he was dealing with.

1457
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 4: Like most things, what happens off the field can impact

1458
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 4: what you do on the field, and it was clearly

1459
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 4: impacting him because he hadn't been the guy that I

1460
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 4: snapped the table for, pounded the table for MVP consideration

1461
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 4: in the past. He just wasn't the same player. But yeah,

1462
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 4: the kicking game has always been solid for them. They

1463
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 4: need to make sure their young kicker can come in

1464
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 4: and he can be nails like Justin Tucker has been

1465
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 4: for his entire career.

1466
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Speaker 2: All right, we move on on the number two team.

1467
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: As far as the backfields concern, it's unreal. You got

1468
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: them as offense, night got them in defense as well.

1469
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Speaker 2: The Houston Texans with Derek Stingley Junior, first team All

1470
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: Pro last year's a cover corner. I didn't think they

1471
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Speaker 2: were that good either, but you got him down there.

1472
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 4: No, they're good because their talented Derek Stingley Junior got

1474
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 4: paid in the offseason. I mean got paid like significant

1475
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: money like last year. He's lived up to the hype

1476
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 4: as a top pick. And so you have a lockdown

1477
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: corner on one side. You have a versatile Swiss Army

1478
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 4: knife type interior defender in Jalen Peatrie slot playing the

1479
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 4: deep post, in the box, blitz whatever you want to see.

1480
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: They have those guys, and then beyond that they have

1481
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 4: some intriguing players. Jimmy Warre can be a player if

1482
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 4: he can take care of his stuff off the field,

1483
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 4: Camary Lassiter.

1484
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: They just have a really good team and they play

1485
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: well in this game.

1486
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 4: Behind.

1487
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: But we talked about a top three front.

1488
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 4: So the Houston Texans defensively, man, they get people nightmares.

1489
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Speaker 1: It's unreal. Now, I said, I feel a bit for

1490
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow.

1491
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean we talked about the Bothmore Ravens, who knew

1492
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers right now. They got Joey Porter Junior

1493
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: for sure, but they got those trades they made. They

1494
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: got Jalen Ramsey from the Dolphins. So the Steelers gonna

1495
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 2: be tough. They're gonna be tough. I mean, the whole

1496
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: thing with the Steelers right off preseason was state Aaron

1497
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: Rodgers situation, and nobody was talking about defense. But let's

1498
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: talk about that defense right now. Because you got them

1499
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 2: as number three. As far as your corner, what is

1500
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: a concern.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Andy, I can tell you talked to Mike Toomland

1502
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: last week before they played the Jaguars, spend some significant

1503
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 4: time talking to him about the defense and those things.

1504
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: And they're really excited about Jalen Ramsey coming over. And

1505
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 4: what Jalen Ramsey does is he gives them a chess

1506
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 4: piece to utilize in the defensive backfield. They can play

1507
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: them outside of the corner, they can play him in

1508
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 4: the slot as a nickel, they can play him in

1509
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 4: the post as a deep safety. And what that allows

1510
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 4: you to do is to match up better with these teams.

1511
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 4: They also brought in Darius Slay, another high end cover corner.

1512
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 4: And those two guys, Darius Lay and Jalen Ramsey, they're

1513
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 4: mentoring Joey Porter Junior, who has the potential to be

1514
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 4: a premiere quarterback one. So those three guys allowed the

1515
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steels to play more man demand and get after

1516
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 4: and then you got some veteran safeties back there, Deshaun

1517
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 4: Elliott being one that they can cover in the back end,

1518
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 4: they can protect the middle. This is a team that

1519
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 4: is ready to go behind that past rush with TJ.

1520
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 4: Watt and some of the other guys, they're gonna get

1521
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 4: after it. And so now being able to play more

1522
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 4: man demand to go with the zone concepts, the zone

1523
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 4: blitz pressures that they've traditionally done in the past, this

1524
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 4: is a challenging team to deal with.

1525
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 2: You know, coming into the segment, has mentioned I said

1526
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: that this is bad news for Joe Burrow, and I

1527
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: really believe it probably is.

1528
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean, especially with the numbers he put it up

1529
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, So if I'm.

1530
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, this is what I'm doing right now. I'm

1531
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 2: looking at this and I'm concerned. But I'm also saying

1532
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: to myself, Man, I wish we had those players. That's

1533
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: what he's saying right now. I'm concern How am I

1534
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: gonna beat these guys number one and number two? I

1535
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: wish they were on my team.

1536
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not lying. He should be concerned. It

1537
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 4: is a problem. It is something that you want to see. Man,

1538
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 4: how are we gonna get How we gonna get over

1539
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 4: the hull? How do we really get past this?

1540
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: Guys?

1541
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 3: Really we're gonna do? How were we gonna beat these guys? What?

1542
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 4: What?

1543
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 7: What?

1544
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 4: What's going to happen for us to have success? What

1545
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,879
Speaker 4: is going to need to happen for us to have success.

1546
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna have to be a lot of offensive firepower,

1547
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: a lot of fireworks coming from that end, and they're

1548
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 4: gonna have to hold off for dear life, because defensively,

1549
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 4: Domingos can't match up with those other teams. Talked about

1550
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 4: the Ravens, we talked about the Steelers. Yeah, it's a problem.

1551
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: You know what the key is, honestly and kind of

1552
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: figured it out. Why the running game is so valuable.

1553
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 2: You have to have long offensive drives to keep your

1554
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: defense off the field.

1555
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: That's what you have to do. And for some reason

1556
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: a the Bengals running game has never really been that strong.

1557
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: I guess the less great run of the hat was

1558
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: Corey Dillon really and then more than that, they strike

1559
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: hard and fast, you know with Jamar Chase, and they

1560
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 2: go for the long ball and that's what they do.

1561
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: So they may be on the field, but they maybe

1562
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: they have like a five to six maybe seven minute drive,

1563
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: and that's basically it. You need to have a drive

1564
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: at eleven twelve minutes like a running game with the

1565
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 2: old steal of teams used to have that just hit

1566
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: the rock and just run. And when you don't have

1567
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: that long drive, your defense is on the field, then

1568
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: you're in trouble.

1569
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have to play a little more what we

1570
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 4: call possession control it with their offense. Their offense will

1571
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 4: be their best defense, not only because of the prolific

1572
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 4: nature of their offense, but by literally possessing the ball,

1573
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 4: playing keep away, being able to get up early and

1574
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 4: just hold on to it. A lot of pressure on

1575
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow to play that way, and the reason why

1576
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 4: there's so much pressure on him to play that way

1577
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 4: it doesn't require him to necessarily be perfect, but man,

1578
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 4: it puts a lot on him in terms of being

1579
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 4: able to get it done consistently from the pocket, relying

1580
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 4: on the weapons to make plays, converting the critical situations.

1581
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 4: Just a lot, just a lot that you have to

1582
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 4: consider when you're trying to mask a defense that is

1583
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 4: atally horrible.

1584
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I could see the Ravens winning that division. There's

1585
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind they probably will, all right,

1586
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: But the Steelers last year, I was shocked that they

1587
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 2: finished five hundred, But I have even more shocked. Didn't

1588
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: they lose their last five games? That that was the

1589
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 2: killer for them? But they just went down the tubes

1590
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: the last five games. I could see the Steelers making

1591
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs this year.

1592
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: Do you agree? I really can.

1593
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: Look.

1594
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 4: I think the Steelers said their eyes on bigger prize

1595
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: than just the playoff t shirt and hat. This is

1596
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 4: a team that fancies itself as a Super Bowl team,

1597
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 4: even though no one on the outside views them as such. Right,

1598
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 4: They're looking to get their edge back. Yeah, They're looking

1599
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 4: to get their edge back. Some of the people that

1600
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 4: they brought in. They wanted to bring in people that

1601
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 4: had not only Super Bowl experience. You know, they wanted

1602
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 4: some guys who had that prickly personality that has always

1603
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 4: been a hallmark of the Pittsburgh Steelers when you think

1604
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: about the great Steelers teams, their little ornery, their little

1605
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 4: feisty Mike Tomlin likes that kind of edge within that

1606
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 4: and everyone knows. And I hadn't thought about it until

1607
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: having conversations with not only Tomland but several coaches. The

1608
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 4: Stealers are their best when they are a bit of

1609
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 4: a disruptive. Can tankerous butch?

1610
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: Can you possibly? And this is big now I'm gonna

1611
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: remember this. I may even write it down. Can you

1612
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: see the Bengals not making the playoffs again this year?

1613
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 4: Uh?

1614
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't see it.

1615
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 4: Defensively, they have a problem, you know they they it's

1616
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 4: a problem when you can't stop people on defense. No

1617
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 4: matter how much I talk about offensive ball, it comes

1618
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 4: down to stops. Can you get stops? Can you control

1619
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 4: the game?

1620
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? It matters, I'm with you.

1621
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: I mean I could see Pittsburgh and Baltimore battling it out,

1622
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: and you know I don't see Cleveland doing much. But still,

1623
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 2: in all I did without that defensive strength, not getting

1624
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: any better in Cincinnati. I could see them maybe faltering again.

1625
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: I mean, they came on.

1626
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: Strong at the end, but it was too late. It

1627
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: was too late, it really was.

1628
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 2: I just it will be devastating for Joe Burrow and

1629
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 2: I feel for the guy, I really do. I just

1630
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: the numbers that he put up with Jamar Chase are unbelievable.

1631
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: If you look at those numbers and then you find out,

1632
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: after looking at the numbers that they didn't make the

1633
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: playoffs last year, you gotta scratch your head and say,

1634
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: what happened to that team?

1635
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's an amazing situation, it really is. I

1636
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: don't believe it. Sometimes I just don't say it.

1637
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you have to contribute more money to the cost.

1638
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to give the owner more money so

1639
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 4: they can pay Joe Burrow and company.

1640
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: That's what they did exactly right, all right. He's Bucky Brooks.

1641
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 2: I'm Ady firm Away on Fox Sports Sunday, Oh, Fox

1642
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,960
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1643
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,480
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1644
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1645
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1649
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 3: There we go.

1650
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: Now there's a fork in the road and you have

1651
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: two choices. Yay ornay and you know what they're next?

1652
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah you Nay time Right here on Fox Sports Sunday,

1653
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: he's Bucking Brooks and Andy Form. We are live from

1654
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And I say, right now,

1655
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: it's about eleven minutes before the top of the hour.

1656
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: It's time for yay or nay. That's okay, let's rock

1657
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: those brains, gentlemen. These stories needed.

1658
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 1: As I think we need a ruling on this.

1659
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 9: It's yay or nay.

1660
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: Ld Are you ready?

1661
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

1662
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 1: I ready, born.

1663
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 10: Ready, it is yay. I am ready for this. So

1664
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 10: I got one for us guys. Here's where I'm starting

1665
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 10: now with. So yesterday, preseason, we had the Browns Ers

1666
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 10: and the Eagles. Dylan Gabriel apparently on field, was interviewed

1667
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 10: and was saying that, uh, they're are entertainers and their

1668
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 10: competitors and his job is to compete and.

1669
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 8: That's what he's gonna do.

1670
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 10: Apparently people thought he was taking, you know, a shot

1671
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 10: at Shadoor Sanders, but he clarified his comments saying that

1672
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 10: the entertainers is the media just to say that.

1673
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 8: Do you believe him on that? Yeay or nay? Andy Furman,

1674
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 8: he's a liar, He's a liar.

1675
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't believe him.

1676
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: He's afraid of the Shadoor Sanders and he should be.

1677
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 2: But Shadoor Sanders is better than him.

1678
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 1: How's that?

1679
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1680
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 4: I think he's misrepresenting what he was saying, because I

1681
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 4: don't know why you even bring that up in a

1682
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 4: sideline interview. To me, it did appear like a direct

1683
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 4: shot at Shader.

1684
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

1685
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 4: Read too much into it, but it didn't make sense

1686
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: about entertainers and competitors. He absolutely appeared to be taking

1687
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 4: a shot at his competitor.

1688
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, all right, well all right, Honestly I agree

1689
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 10: with both of you on that. I think he was too. Well,

1690
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 10: we're gonna go here, We're gonna go to baseball. So

1691
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 10: the Milwaukee Brewers won their twelve consecutive game last Wednesday,

1692
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 10: beating the Pirates last night, fourteenth last night, and there

1693
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 10: we go.

1694
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 8: How about that?

1695
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 10: So they beat the Pirates twelve to five, right in

1696
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 10: the Milwaukee based restaurant Chaine, George Webb promised free hamburgers later.

1697
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 10: Of course, it was the club's best streak since twenty

1698
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 10: eighteen and one of only three times in company history

1699
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 10: George Webb had to serve up some burgers.

1700
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 8: Yeah or nay on this, Bucky.

1701
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: Brooks, I'm yay on it.

1702
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 4: Like incentivizing people is always positive, and so George Webb

1703
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: dig into that pocket and get those burgers.

1704
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 3: Bro I dig it.

1705
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say yay.

1706
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: As I said early on today, I didn't usually tell

1707
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: people how to spend that money, but if you're going

1708
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: to be a soul, Bold has to say I'm gonna

1709
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: give out free Hamburgers. If they went told straight, well,

1710
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: pay up, pay up, George, pay up.

1711
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 10: Well. Speaking of paying up, here everybody. So Taylor Swift

1712
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 10: use the Travis and Jason Kelsey New Heights podcast to

1713
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 10: announce her twelfth studio album, The Life of a Showgirl.

1714
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 10: It was a Tuesday at twelve twelve am Eastern time.

1715
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 8: Yeah or nay on this?

1716
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: Andy Nay because you know, honestly, it's disgusting already, Really

1717
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: do you have to? I mean, that's how big the

1718
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: NFL is everybody says how big Taylor Swift is. No,

1719
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: she had a latch on to the NFL to get

1720
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 2: her announcement out there. I know it's Travis and they're

1721
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: in love and all that stuff is still do it

1722
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: on your own. Don't put you like a parasite to

1723
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey.

1724
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: That's what you are.

1725
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 2: And you know what, I'll be honest with you. I

1726
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: knew those guys from the University of Cincinnati.

1727
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: I like Jason better. I mean, you've been you've been

1728
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: a bit of a hater.

1729
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 4: If you saw any of the podcasts, you would know

1730
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 4: that they are madly in love. This was not something

1731
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 4: where she is she's taking advantage of poor Travis like

1732
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 4: this is one where she was a bigger star than

1733
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 4: he was. To me, this is about this is about

1734
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 4: her just using it the platform to make both of

1735
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 4: their lives better, because the more she does on his stuff,

1736
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 4: the bigger he comes becomes as a star.

1737
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 8: Who's the woman I'm so with I'm so with you

1738
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 8: on that, Bucky. I agree, she's a bigger start stop.

1739
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: It's true she had to use the NFL pick of

1740
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: the name.

1741
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Speaker 8: Out the NFL how to use her, I believe, But

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01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 8: here we go.

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01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 10: So next up, Mattel and Venus Williams now have a

1744
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 10: new barbie for the Inspiring Women series. Venus often to

1745
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 10: select her win at the two thousand and seven Wimbledon

1746
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 10: Attorney why it was the first year the men's and

1747
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 10: women's singles champions earned equal prize money at Wimbledon. It

1748
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 10: caused that Williams champion long before her win. Yeah your

1749
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 10: nay on this, Bucky Brooks.

1750
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: Look, man, I think it's great.

1751
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 4: Whenever Serena is involved, it is always going to be

1752
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 4: a big deal, and because she's giving back and using

1753
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 4: her platform, it's positive.

1754
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm big on this.

1755
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: I say yay.

1756
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: I love the Williams sisters and it's about time Venus

1757
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: got some play because it's always Serena.

1758
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: So I like Venus.

1759
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm Venus got to do that, and it's really a

1760
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,879
Speaker 2: wonderful thing that she did that, because she did champion

1761
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: that equal prize money and she got it done, so

1762
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: God bless you, Venus.

1763
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: Willi's good move. But I'm not buying a barbie. I'm

1764
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: not buying it.

1765
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 9: I'm not.

1766
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in Barbie dolls. But if I was,

1767
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: I would I would buy it. How's that all right?

1768
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 10: Anything else that that was the last one? Anything on

1769
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 10: your mind? I think when maybe they should make an

1770
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 10: Andy Furman Barbie doll.

1771
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 8: Let's see.

1772
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they could throw pins in it. That's what

1773
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: they could do.

1774
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 8: It comes to its own wsinator.

1775
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: You think so, I know so an autographic wizinator. That's

1776
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: a good dude. You could have that little personalized one.

1777
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 8: It's got your voice on it too.

1778
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: Now there we go.

1779
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: Okay, the wrong people are being punished. Will tell you

1780
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: why and so much more. Fox butts Son They coming

1781
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: up next. Okay, there's only one group that gets punished.

1782
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: Here I will tell you who they are just about

1783
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: a minute. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Bort Sunday.

1784
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Frem and my partner Bucky Brooks and went

1785
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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and Bucket,

1786
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: you're a gamer. I could tell them the way you

1787
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 2: played the game and also the way you came here

1788
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: today because you're not one hundred percent, so God bless

1789
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 2: you and thank you for doing that. You're gutting it out.

1790
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: You're gutting it out, Bucky, you really are. Don't stunt

1791
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Speaker 2: even save it, save it I'm saving it. Save give

1792
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Speaker 2: you a little rest right now, because now is time

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Speaker 1: Of the day.

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Speaker 11: Gabriel has been very good so far, and this one

1796
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 11: is picked off and going back the other way. Now

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Speaker 11: it's a foot race, and that is that. Welcome to

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Speaker 11: I'm the first player of the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: All right, defensive back for the Eagles. Andrew mccooba picks

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Speaker 2: off Dylan Gabriel. This courtesy of the NFL Network. I'll

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right now, I'm happy and I'm

1810
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: glad you picked that for the play of the day

1811
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: because I don't like Dylan Gabriel.

1812
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: I don't like what he had to say about Shador Sanders,

1813
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 2: And you know, what. I'm glad you got picked off.

1814
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: And I like the underdog. I like Chador. I'm a

1815
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders fan, and he's gonna play before you'll ever

1816
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: see the light of day. Dylan Gabriel, how do you

1817
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: like that? Stick that in your helmet and smoke it.

1818
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a little aggressive, dear Indy, but I

1819
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: get it.

1820
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 4: I mean the commentary was not great in terms of

1821
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 4: the entertainer competitor quote. Look, he was solid parts of

1822
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 4: the game, descriptive part of the game early thirteen for eighteen.

1823
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: You know, Paul was getting out of his hand, let

1824
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 4: a touchdown, drift, but he had to pick six, have

1825
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: another fumble, have some other things, and it was his

1826
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 4: first action.

1827
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: That's about your door if you reap between the lines.

1828
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but that's that's that. That is what

1829
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 4: it is like you have competitors. Sometimes things can come

1830
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 4: out your mouth that you you you regret and you like,

1831
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 4: I just did wish that you Yeah, you just wish

1832
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 4: that you had kind of maybe handled the situation better.

1833
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 4: But we'll see, man, they'll get on the same page.

1834
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 4: And look, it's gonna be testy when you have a

1835
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 4: third and the fifth round pick. That's why you normally

1836
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 4: don't bring two quarterbacks in in the same draft class.

1837
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 3: We saw where RG three and Kirk Cousins.

1838
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 2: Wait, I remember a couple of years the Browns drafted

1839
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: a quarterback on the first and the third round.

1840
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Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, I believe it is.

1841
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's not. It's not ideal. It's not ideal

1842
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 3: when you go about that.

1843
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: But your opinion counts.

1844
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 2: And I'm going to ask you who's the better quarterback

1845
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 2: who will have a better career in the NFL.

1846
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel or should Door Sanders.

1847
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 4: Look, it's hard to say based on so many factors

1848
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 4: that go into it, but if you ask me, I

1849
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 4: had Shudur Sanders.

1850
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: Rated much higher than Dylan Gabriel.

1851
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that I'm right yet, but just the satisfactor,

1852
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 4: the talent factor, their notable differences. For Dylan Gabriel, there's

1853
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 4: a path for him to be successful in the league,

1854
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 4: but it's harder. The odds are stacked against a shorter quarterback,

1855
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 4: and giving his stature as a sub six foot quarterback,

1856
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 4: you just don't see many of them succeed in the league.

1857
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, Okay, who's the last good one? Maybe well,

1858
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: fran Tarkenton was Chrinis Wilder was.

1859
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 3: Tell about Doug Flutie.

1860
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: Doug Fluteye, frind Tarkington, I don't remember how short these

1861
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: guys were to all they were, but they do make

1862
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: a big deal about arm strength, hand size and height.

1863
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: They do make a big deal about that. But I

1864
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: was kind of tough on Dylan, So I'm gonna lighten

1865
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: up right now. I'm gonna make everybody who's a Raider

1866
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: fan kind of happy right now because of the playlist

1867
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 2: out of Ashton genty okay, seven carriages for thirty three yards,

1868
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: and everybody's going bonkers now as far as the Las

1869
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiser, because yeah, it's okay, okay, they lost to

1870
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers twenty two to nineteen. But you

1871
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: know what, now you got something to root for, right

1872
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,799
Speaker 2: That's what basically preseason is, you know, dreams and hopes,

1873
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: that's what it is for everybody, really, so good for

1874
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: them and also for the Giant fans. Jackson Darth he

1875
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: was pretty good fourteen to sixteen hundred and thirty seven

1876
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: yards a touchdown. As the Giants rolled over to judge

1877
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: thirty one to twelve. The question I have here is

1878
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: how long is it gonna be until he plays? Because

1879
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: if I'm Russell Wilson, I worry. I'm a little worried.

1880
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: I'm looking over my shoulder.

1881
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: Now, you can't look at your show. You're Russe Wilson.

1882
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 4: You've been this game long enough to know the only

1883
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 4: thing that Russell can control is his performance. He has

1884
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 4: to put his focus on that because if I'm Russell Wilson,

1885
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 4: to wait that, I think the more that I win,

1886
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 4: the more likely I'm gonna stay in the lineup.

1887
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 3: I just need to win. And that's what it comes

1888
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 3: down to. If they win, he stays.

1889
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 1: Period, We'll see how long I mean, I you know, if.

1890
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 4: They win he stays, they're not gonna they're not gonna

1891
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 4: dump them. If he's winning. If he's losing, now that's

1892
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 4: all that's look that he opens up the door.

1893
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 2: You know, here's a story we never hear about. We

1894
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: hear about the coaches. They never comment about the quarterback controversy.

1895
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: They don't like to talk about it. I get that,

1896
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: and the quarterbacks themselves they say I'm a team guy,

1897
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: like Joe Flacco says he's helping the other guys. I

1898
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: get that through it sounds good. You know, it's really

1899
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: a lot of pablem because it's not true. I want

1900
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: to know from you because you've been there, done that.

1901
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 2: In the locker room. There's got to be a segment

1902
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: of that locker room that is ya oh, nay for

1903
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: one quarterback or the other. In Cleveland, there are some

1904
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: saying I'd like to see sho Door get the job,

1905
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: or someone is saying I want to see Dylan get

1906
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: the job. You forget about Flackhougus. Certainly as of now

1907
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: he does, but is not the case. You're on an

1908
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 2: NFL team, you've seen that. I'm sure maybe you were

1909
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: even part of it.

1910
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 4: I mean, like the locker room would always tell you

1911
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 4: which quarterback is worthy of being the starting quarterback. They

1912
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 4: may not verbally, but the way they respond to certain

1913
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 4: guys your job as a coach.

1914
01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 3: You got to look at the clues.

1915
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 4: If they're not as forward like forthcoming with who they prefer,

1916
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 4: you just got to look at the cues. Look at

1917
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 4: how they gravitate towards one quarterback versus the other. Look

1918
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 4: at the way the offense performs with one guy in

1919
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 4: compared to the other. All of those factors come into

1920
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,560
Speaker 4: it because it's the chemistry experiment. As much as we

1921
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 4: talk about the quarterback and the talent, it is the

1922
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 4: intangibles that set the good ones apart from the great ones.

1923
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 4: And if you have the right intangibles, the right mix,

1924
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 4: you're gonna have a lot of success being a lesser

1925
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 4: talented guy.

1926
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Okay, I hear right now.

1927
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: But Sudor's going to get his day too.

1928
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: Bet he was injured and he didn't play this week,

1929
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 2: but because he had the oblique deal, so maybe he'll

1930
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 2: play next week.

1931
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll see what happens there. And look, he got

1932
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: a break. I mean sometimes it's luck.

1933
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: I mean, if they didn't have all those injuries in

1934
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: Cleveland with the quarterbacks, probably wouldn't seen the light of day.

1935
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: So he got a little lucky too, And you got

1936
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: to take advantage of it, you know.

1937
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: That's the main thing.

1938
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 4: No matter what we talk about, no matter how any

1939
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 4: reps you get, you got to make the most of them.

1940
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 4: So if you only get two reps, you get better

1941
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 4: make sure those two reps are perfect, so you hope

1942
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 4: the next time you get four reps and you begin

1943
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 4: to stack positive days. Good days on top of good days,

1944
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,560
Speaker 4: and eventually you get to where you want to be.

1945
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Right talking about Grace, Let's talk about the old time

1946
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 2: leading Russia, Emmitt Smith and what would a talk show

1947
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: be in this time of the year without talking about

1948
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons. We haven't talked about Michael Parsons yet, but EMMITTT.

1949
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Smith said he had his own contract to dispute with

1950
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: Cowboys owner Jerry Jones way back in nineteen ninety three.

1951
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: And he said it wasn't really a holdout because he

1952
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 2: didn't have a contract. He left leverage. Bless you, bless you,

1953
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: my friend Michael parsonsho's holding out with Dallas. He does

1954
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: have leverage. Okay, what's the difference, Bucket Brooks both want

1955
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 2: more money and them it had the position over Parsons.

1956
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: That running back position obviously was a little more glamorous.

1957
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 2: I would think that what Parsons plays well.

1958
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 4: The difference was emmittt was a free agent. He wasn't

1959
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 4: signed to anybody. So Parsons is on the contract.

1960
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 3: Misa.

1961
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 4: Parsons has to show up or he has to pay

1962
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 4: a series of fines that I mean, they scale up

1963
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 4: quickly in terms of the amount of costs that we

1964
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 4: heard him in his pocketbook, and those things are non refundable,

1965
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 4: meaning you can't wipe those away.

1966
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 3: That's one of the primary differences.

1967
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 4: But Mica doesn't really have a choice, Like he can

1968
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 4: beg and plead for a new contract, but the Cowboys

1969
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 4: aren't obligated to give him a new contract. They can

1970
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 4: play this out. They picked up the option. He's playing

1971
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 4: on an option. They can wait and put the franchise

1972
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 4: tag on him, and they can put the franchise tag

1973
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 4: on him a second time if they wanted to.

1974
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't have leverage in this situation. He needs to.

1975
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to say play nice, but he's kind

1976
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 4: of the mercy of Jerry Jones right now.

1977
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 3: You know he wants his bread in those things.

1978
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 4: But withholding services, really it's only detrimental to him because

1979
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 4: it's so putative in the pocketbook. He has to make

1980
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: a decision how long does he want to play this

1981
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 4: out hopes of trying to secure a deal.

1982
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: Same thing with Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati. Really, he's got

1983
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: a contract.

1984
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 4: He has the contract, and they made it the last

1985
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 4: collective bargaining agreement. They made it so punitive when it

1986
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 4: came to holdouts, so it wiped away significant leverage for

1987
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 4: players looking for new contracts and deals in those things.

1988
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 4: That's why some of the people, you know, when it

1989
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 4: came to the PA doing agreeing to the CBA, some

1990
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 4: people felt like some of the players got so short

1991
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 4: because of little things like this that really hamstrings their

1992
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 4: ability to push and get more money.

1993
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 2: Right in nineteen ninety two, Ema Smith became the first

1994
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: player to win a rushing title in the Super Bowl

1995
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 2: in the same year, and he wanted some more money,

1996
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 2: and he was a restricted free agent. He could talk

1997
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 2: to the other teams, but the Cowboys could match any

1998
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: offer or receive some drift compensation, and he still had

1999
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: the contract coming in his way. You know he's going

2000
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 2: to do that because what happened was that year the

2001
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys started the season without Emitt Smith and they went

2002
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: on too. So basically that and it may happen this

2003
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: year with Michael Parsons, who knows.

2004
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, but.

2005
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 3: It's gonna be cost It's gonna cost him money.

2006
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 4: Even Chris Jones when he did this a couple of

2007
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 4: years ago, and they can't see that Chiefs won the

2008
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 4: Super Bowl.

2009
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 3: He talked about it.

2010
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 4: He never really made that money back up the two

2011
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 4: million dollars that he lost and fines. He still didn't

2012
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 4: say that it was worth it cost him a lot

2013
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 4: of bucks.

2014
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 2: Sure, you gotta be crazy too, I mean you really do.

2015
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean I get it. You want to you want

2016
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 2: to get what your contemporaries are making. Okay, and uh, TJ.

2017
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 2: Watt and Trey Hendrickson did the like night and day.

2018
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson is not in watch league. There's no way

2019
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: he's not gonna end that kind of money.

2020
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 3: Okay, I hear you say that.

2021
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 4: But then when you look at the numbers the top

2022
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 4: three sack artists the last five years, Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt,

2023
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson. So you can say that they're not the

2024
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 4: same league stylistically or whatever, but the numbers say, hey,

2025
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 4: I'm right there with them. So if my numbers, my

2026
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 4: production is right there with them, then I need to

2027
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 4: get paid just like they got packed. I mean that,

2028
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 4: I mean that, that's just what it is. Because Andy,

2029
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 4: let's be honest. If we were on a show every

2030
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 4: day and I showed rated like color coward, then you

2031
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 4: and I would be knocking on the on the door.

2032
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, but but it's different. I tell you what,

2033
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,560
Speaker 2: you have to do the same. Look what they do.

2034
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: We talked about TJ. Watt and and and Hendricks and

2035
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: all of those guys. They play on Sundays together in

2036
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 2: the same league at the same time. We are not

2037
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 2: at the same time as he was. So if they

2038
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 2: let us do that time, dude, know he does this time.

2039
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 2: That's how you judge it. It's like night and day.

2040
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's a fair comparison.

2041
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 4: See, but if we did have the same thing, I'm

2042
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 4: just saying, like, if we were earning ratings like Coward,

2043
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 4: they're doing the same block. We want money that is

2044
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 4: comparable to that because those guys play the same position,

2045
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 4: the numbers are comparable. And I'm Trey Henderson. Why would

2046
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 4: I give Cincinnati a discount because I love the city?

2047
01:32:59,400 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 3: Nah?

2048
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 4: I mean, like, okay, I'll shave two hundred and fifty

2049
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 4: thousand off of my requests, so it's not gonna be

2050
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 4: forty one to be forty seven fifty. But yeah, you're

2051
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 4: gonna pay me the same kind of money that you're

2052
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 4: paying them. And this is the Bengals fault for allowing

2053
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 4: this to drag out because the price never goes down,

2054
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 4: it only goes Well, it's better, it's better to dig

2055
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 4: found that out in front of the chase. Yeah like

2056
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 4: last year. Yeah, like we're doing this. T Higgins all that.

2057
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 4: It's more, it's costs prohibitive to wait. They should have

2058
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 4: been on the front end of this, particularly when they.

2059
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 2: If you breakdown Troy Hendrickson's game by game, he had

2060
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: no sacks against the Ravens and those sacks against the Steelers.

2061
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 2: He had four sacks against a bad Las Vegas Raiders team,

2062
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: So I think that Yeah, he led the league in

2063
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 2: sacks for seventeen and a half, but look who he

2064
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: did it against.

2065
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a key also.

2066
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 4: I mean it can be, but at the end of

2067
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 4: the day and a bottom line, business is about the

2068
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:59,560
Speaker 4: bottom line, and the bottom line is I leave the

2069
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 4: twin twenty four season as the king when it comes

2070
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 4: to sack artistry. I now can compare my sales to

2071
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 4: two guys that were first round picks who've done it.

2072
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett got his bread, TJ. Watt just got his.

2073
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 4: Well guess what, guys, I'm right there, So okay, you

2074
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 4: don't want to pay me more than them. Cool, I

2075
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 4: still got to be right there. It's almost like price

2076
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 4: is right, Showcase, Showdown. You gotta pay me my money.

2077
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 4: You gotta give me my money. I've wanted. You got

2078
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 4: to give me my money.

2079
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: So it's I'll come back and say this, A.

2080
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 2: You got a contract, and B you didn't believe much

2081
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,759
Speaker 2: in yourself by signing that contract.

2082
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: You should have signed a one year deal. Really, I mean,

2083
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 1: if you thought so much.

2084
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 4: Right, But the market has escalated so much, salary cap explosion,

2085
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 4: all those things. When he signed his deal, we were

2086
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 4: in a different landscape. Now it has completely changed. With

2087
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 4: pass rushers getting quarterback money forty million dollars.

2088
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 3: Man, we never saw that from pass rushers.

2089
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 4: I mean Aaron Donald to me, I think was the

2090
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 4: first one that kind of pushed to quarterback money at

2091
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 4: thirty million.

2092
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 3: Now they're at forty. But Noanay's crazy.

2093
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: It is crazy. What was you up?

2094
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 3: And I mean not like that.

2095
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 4: Cornerbacks are still down or whatever. They're just now getting

2096
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:18,879
Speaker 4: to the thirty million dollar more. Derek Stingley Sauce Gardener.

2097
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 4: Those guys are just getting there. Wide receivers have been

2098
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 4: above thirty four a while, but you know, the league

2099
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:26,520
Speaker 4: is you know, a reactionary.

2100
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 3: It takes a while. You got to push it up

2101
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 3: and do those things.

2102
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 4: In Trey Henderson, Yeah, Trey Henderson has waited patiently.

2103
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 3: Kind of pay him.

2104
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 2: That's what I wished with thirty million when I put

2105
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: down my two dollars for my lottery ticket.

2106
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Thirty million, that's what I would.

2107
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 4: It'd be much easier if you can go, if you

2108
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 4: can go sack the quarterback against the Las Vegas Raiders,

2109
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 4: and then you may be able to get it.

2110
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, really and truly.

2111
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,799
Speaker 2: If I knew that then when I was in high school,

2112
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: you know, to play football, that I didn't have to

2113
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 2: have really, I hate to use the word, not a

2114
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 2: lot of talent, but more of a mindset to just

2115
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 2: get the quarterback. You know, you really know the quarterback

2116
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 2: a great athen Am I wrong on that? You don't

2117
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: have to be a great athlete. If I have the

2118
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 2: willpower to get over a guy and beat the guy

2119
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: and go after a guy like a head hunter, then

2120
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 2: then you got.

2121
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: A mate, right, That's that's the attitude you need.

2122
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be Yeah, you gotta be a tail kicker,

2123
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 4: and you gotta have some crustiness to you some feistiness.

2124
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 3: You got that. Now, we just got to give you

2125
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 3: a signess.

2126
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: I got a sport. I gotta be on the microphone,

2127
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 1: not a football.

2128
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2129
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just got to get you. We just got

2130
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 3: to get you a go to move and we got

2131
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 3: to get you a counter to compliment that. And then, man,

2132
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 3: you're golden.

2133
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 1: One of my sons had it in football. He did,

2134
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 1: he really did. But he was a running back. He

2135
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: did well, he really did.

2136
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 3: But okay, I mean that that that you have to

2137
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 3: have it, you have to he did.

2138
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 2: He had that will. I mean, he just had the desire,

2139
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 2: which is really great. And I didn't push him. I mean,

2140
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 2: you know, how can I push?

2141
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: What do I do?

2142
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you know I wanted to see, right, But

2143
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,679
Speaker 4: you get mad because Mike Browl wouldn't pay your son either.

2144
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: Right, so I gotta pay you to know that about

2145
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: all right?

2146
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 2: You told about holdouts, right, what about the commander is

2147
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 2: the Commander's offense that was really shocked about that because

2148
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 2: their offensive cordnet Cliff Kingsbury said that we know we

2149
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 2: just don't have it.

2150
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 1: We need to return. That's big.

2151
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 2: When the offensive cord then comes out and says we

2152
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 2: need Terry McLaurin to return right now, and I think

2153
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 2: he will. I would hope he would come back. I

2154
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 2: mean you would think he would. Right was last year

2155
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 2: and now he was their offense. You know, jayde and

2156
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 2: Daniel and McLaurin were last year's office. They were fifteen

2157
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 2: points in the league, seventh in yards last year, and

2158
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 2: he caught a career best thirteen touchdowns and twelve of

2159
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,879
Speaker 2: those touchdowns came from Jade and Daniels.

2160
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 4: I mean, they need him, they need him to come back,

2161
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 4: they need him in a major way. It's important for

2162
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 4: them to get him signed and locked and loaded because

2163
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 4: he's such a pivotal part of what they do and

2164
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 4: if they can get him inked to a deal, it

2165
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 4: just makes everything easy for him. And so to me,

2166
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 4: it's just important that they find a way to get

2167
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 4: it done, uh asap, as soon as possible.

2168
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 3: Let's get this done.

2169
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: What was it this ugly when you play with holdout?

2170
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember it, I really don't. I mean I

2171
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 2: don't think. I mean it's left and right like that.

2172
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 4: I mean it's part of it. I mean, it's part

2173
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 4: of the process.

2174
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 3: And you have to be.

2175
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 4: You got to have to tum me for it. You know,

2176
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 4: you got to have the stomach for for being able

2177
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 4: to kind of go and deal with some of these things.

2178
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 4: Like little Dumper may not have the tummy to be.

2179
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: Able to withstand some of the unemails with.

2180
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 3: A little Dumper. You may not you may not be

2181
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 3: able to like kind of handle some.

2182
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: Of the stuff when it comes to it.

2183
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 3: But it's okay, like you just have to. You just

2184
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 3: gotta be able to rock.

2185
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 2: But you know who's got the stomach for it, I'll

2186
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 2: tell you Jerry Jones and Mike Brown. They lived for

2187
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: that stuff. I mean they really And I think I

2188
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 2: read something the other day that Jerry Jones said, it's

2189
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: good for the Dallas Cowboys when we have something like

2190
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: this because it gets our name out there. I guess,

2191
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 2: especially when the team is not doing well, people are

2192
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 2: talking about the Dallas Cowboys. That's like the lead story

2193
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 2: of the NFL preseason right now, Michael Parsons, that's the story.

2194
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 4: And sometimes some guys would say that any news is

2195
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 4: good news, And for Jerry Jones and that crew, it

2196
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 4: probably is true. He is probably okay with dealing with

2197
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 4: some of this stuff that you have to deal with

2198
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 4: to get to the other side.

2199
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's what he does, and I guess

2200
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 2: he does it rather well. But over the lass several years,

2201
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 2: over the least twenty five years, honestly, they haven't done much.

2202
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 2: But there's still America's team. People love the Dallas Cowboys.

2203
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 2: I love to go to Jerry's place where they play.

2204
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 2: And you know, really and truly that's on everybody's tongue

2205
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 2: right now. Is Michael Parsons Willie Awoni. I mean I

2206
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,839
Speaker 2: think he will. But Jerry's got people talking Dallas Cowboys football.

2207
01:39:58,920 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: That's what he wants.

2208
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 9: He does.

2209
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a showman. He digs it. He's a showman.

2210
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 4: Like I mean, think about how many people could make

2211
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 4: the kind of money and have the franchise evaluation that

2212
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 4: the Cowboys have and they have him been close to

2213
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 4: stiff in a Super Bowl in almost thirty years.

2214
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 3: I think about that, like it's the greatest trick.

2215
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 4: He should be in Vegas on the streets just playing

2216
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 4: like whatever that three cards shuffle where they kind of

2217
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 4: do all the stuff or whatever, like that's what he

2218
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 4: has because yeah, oh my god, they can't.

2219
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 3: Figure it out. It is a great trick that he's

2220
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 3: been able to pull off and he does it.

2221
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that, but they don't have the evaluations.

2222
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 2: The other day that came out. I think the Shinnei

2223
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 2: Bengals will last. I mean really, I mean, and I

2224
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 2: is it the It can't be the market size because

2225
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 2: I don't think market means much in the National Football League.

2226
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Was Green Bay is right up there, and you know,

2227
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 2: everybody is equal. It's not like a baseball you know,

2228
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 2: where there are different budgets. They got the cap and

2229
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 2: things like that. So I don't know why the Bengals

2230
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: will be down so far. Really, you would think other

2231
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 2: teams would be not the Bengals.

2232
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 4: No. I mean like it's probably all the assets, right,

2233
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 4: so you take stadium, whoever owns the stadium, taking about

2234
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 4: their own facility, you tink about everything that they have.

2235
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 4: Then you think about like the steady stream of money

2236
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 4: when it comes to ad revenue, star like potential, all

2237
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 4: of that, Like the brand the Cowboys huge brand synonymous

2238
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 4: with the National Football League America's team. As you reference

2239
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 4: the Moniker, the Green Bay package that you reference, title town,

2240
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:38,560
Speaker 4: the popularity of the team, it transcends generations.

2241
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 3: The Bengals, I love them.

2242
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 4: And when I was a kid, I used to like

2243
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 4: the stripes when they change their helway from the letters

2244
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 4: B and G a ls to the stripes, I thought

2245
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 4: that was creative as a kid. That got me. But

2246
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 4: I can't say that they have like the tradition to

2247
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 4: lure everybody. And even though Beingals, fans are some of

2248
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 4: the most devoted fans that I know. And I would

2249
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 4: say the Browns fan base and their evaluation is probably

2250
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 4: more significant because they still have a national appeal I guess,

2251
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 4: which goes back to their original days when they started playing.

2252
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 2: You know, I'd rather than seeing the evaluations of how

2253
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 2: much these teams are worth, I'd rather like to see

2254
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 2: how much of the memorabilia or you know, jerseys are

2255
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 2: sold throughout the country. I got to believe Dallas is

2256
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 2: right up there, if not number one. But other than that,

2257
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 2: maybe the Eagles right now because they won the Super

2258
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 2: Bowl last year, But you don't see a lot of

2259
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. I think the Raiders are up there too.

2260
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 2: As far as people wearing Radish jerseys and caps around

2261
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 2: the country.

2262
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, brand names, big brands, national teams, not just regional.

2263
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 4: They have a broad following an appeal.

2264
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say that.

2265
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 4: But now I do see Browns backers kind of everywhere.

2266
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 4: I do see like their little fan base extend. But

2267
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 4: maybe because they also they disappeared. Remember they went to Baltimore.

2268
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 4: Then they came back in ninety nine. It hasn't really

2269
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 4: been the same. They haven't been good and as good

2270
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 4: as the Ravens.

2271
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: Then you mentioned that back.

2272
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of Ravens stuff around the country.

2273
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of Ravens caps and jerseys.

2274
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 3: Maybe no, that's the national thing.

2275
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 4: Because also I think parents passed down their fandom. So

2276
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 4: the Ravens are still, you know, like ninety six. Yeah,

2277
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 4: so they haven't been around as long. Whereas you know,

2278
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 4: I don't know where you got your Giants fandom from.

2279
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if that was your dad or your

2280
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 4: granddad or whoever originally turned you on. But a lot

2281
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 4: of times our fandom is passed down because the pop

2282
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 4: supports and so then what was he Dowey exposes his

2283
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 4: son or daughter to those teams. They go to those

2284
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 4: games and they watch them on the tube, that's tore

2285
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 4: them on the radio, and before you know it, you're

2286
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 4: a fan. They got you locked in.

2287
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, you're so right.

2288
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a funny story about that, because when

2289
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 2: I was a kid, I loved the Yankees, and I

2290
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 2: can even I could tell you, like I could real

2291
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 2: love the numbers right now. I remember Cleet Boy was

2292
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 2: number six playing third base, Tony Kopeck, show stop number ten,

2293
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 2: Bobby Richardson's second base, number one, Moose SCN first place fourteen.

2294
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: I can't do that now, you know.

2295
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I know certain numbers on certain teams, the New

2296
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 2: York Football Giants. I raan love some of the front

2297
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 2: four before for you. I remember they had a tight end.

2298
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: But I think this is crazy. I don't know why

2299
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 2: I remember him number eighty eight, Aaron Thomas. I mean

2300
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 2: these are guys that I remember, Tucker Fredericson in the

2301
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 2: back court, in the backfield with Ernie Coy. I mean,

2302
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: just uh, those are the guys you probably do you

2303
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 2: remember Tucker Fredericson, No, yes.

2304
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 3: And Dick him on that That's what Coley I remember, Marko.

2305
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,520
Speaker 3: I know Howard. I know how Howard cross.

2306
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 2: Up with you know Tyke from watching these games. I

2307
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 2: loved it, you know, and I went to the games.

2308
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but he played Yankee. Yeah, nice, unreal,

2309
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 2: it really is, all right, He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Firmer.

2310
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 2: We have Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Get

2311
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 2: him on x at Bucket Brooks and Andy furmant FSR

2312
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on that's the number eight

2313
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine the

2314
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 2: Blaying game at the bottom of this hour.

2315
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,560
Speaker 1: But but he does want to coach again, would you

2316
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: hire him? That's next?

2317
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: All right, this is no joke. You'll hear about it

2318
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 2: in just about a minute. He's Bucket Brooks, He's no joke.

2319
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Foxborths Radio.

2320
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 2: We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We've got

2321
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 2: the Blaine game in about ten twelve minutes from now.

2322
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 2: And believe it or not, asking you shall receive because

2323
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 2: my brother lives in Pennsylvania and he just wrote back

2324
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 2: to me.

2325
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 1: He said.

2326
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 2: The San Francisco forty nine Ers are the top selling

2327
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 2: NFL team in jersey sales, according to Fanatics. Within the

2328
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, Christian McCaffrey's jersey is the best selling.

2329
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 2: According to Bleacher Report, McCaffrey, Patrick Mahomes, Hurts Parsons lead

2330
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 2: the top ten NFL jersey sales in twenty four to

2331
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 2: twenty five.

2332
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: How do you like that? So there we go to

2333
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 1: forty nine ers.

2334
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 4: How do you like?

2335
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: Who would have thunked that? I never would have thought

2336
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers would be their.

2337
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 3: Book in terms of jersey sales. Why not?

2338
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 4: Well, wouldn't you think they just think by the popularity

2339
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 4: of the best players, George Kittle, You think about Christian McCaffrey,

2340
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 4: all those things.

2341
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense to me.

2342
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's move back to nc AS nc double

2343
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 2: A college football and basketball. What would it be without payouts, cheating, fraud,

2344
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 2: changing grades, and spying and of course downright cheating. But

2345
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 2: who gets caught and who pays when the punishments are

2346
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 2: levy case in point right now, the NCUBA came down

2347
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 2: on the University of Michigan's advanced scouting case just the

2348
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 2: other day, and the size of the fines like twenty million,

2349
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 2: which is just like lunch meal for the University of Michigan.

2350
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 2: Believe me, Head coach Cheron Moore two game suspension. Jim Harbaugh,

2351
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 2: now with the charges and I love him, I really do.

2352
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 2: But he was the problem. He was the coach CEO

2353
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 2: at the time. He gets a ten year show course penalty,

2354
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 2: big freaking deal. He's not going to go back in

2355
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 2: coach college football, so schools can't hire him in the future.

2356
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: Big deal. He's serving a current four year show course

2357
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: right now from a previous cent A case. So who

2358
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: gets hurt the athletes?

2359
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 2: The athletes now with the nil out there and play

2360
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 2: I guess a lot of these athletes, if they get

2361
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: suspension of miss playoff opportunities, been gonna look to leave.

2362
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 2: It's stupid. The whole situation is crazy, isn't it.

2363
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 4: I mean, look, there's a lot that's going on. When

2364
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 4: it comes to it, the hand signal thing, I didn't

2365
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 4: know it, mushroom and to what has become.

2366
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 3: But here we are, the show calls penalty for Jim

2367
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 3: Harbaugh ten.

2368
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,839
Speaker 4: Years a long time, Sharon Moore having to serve additional

2369
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 4: games when it comes to suspension, whatever moneies that were

2370
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 4: generated and lost and all that is significant. It's an impact.

2371
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 4: But you know what, doesn't change the fact that they

2372
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:47,640
Speaker 4: won the Natty champions. That doesn't change the fact that

2373
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 4: you can roll out look at the shiny riggy thing

2374
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 4: to recognize and appreciate them as the best team in

2375
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 4: the league.

2376
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 3: And so even though they will be the butt of

2377
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 3: all these jokes.

2378
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would say that Ohio State's championship

2379
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 4: this past year might have an ask you because they lost.

2380
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 3: The big game, you know, to Michigan, Like, so you

2381
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 3: can't change those things. It's uh yeah, I mean you.

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01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: Know what, you can't change the cheating. It's still gonna

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01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: go on, it really will. I mean, what is nil.

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01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 2: It's legalized cheating. Back in the day, they gave you

2385
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 2: a bag of money. Now they do it on top

2386
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:25,799
Speaker 2: of the table instead of under.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't call it the bag of cheating.

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01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,759
Speaker 4: I mean it's different now because it's not only nil

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01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 4: now with the revenue share, which is a different deal

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01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 4: of revenue share coming from the university. They're sharing in

2391
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 4: the money that's made NIL was pay for play, like

2392
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 4: we're paying guys to come play for us. It's a

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01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 4: little bit of a difference we see now.

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01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 2: Speaking of coaches, I ask you, should this gentleman get

2395
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 2: another shot? And it's just the way to go about it.

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01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 2: In the media, mentioning a select program the list I'm

2397
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 2: talking about. John Gruden says he wants to coach college

2398
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: footb all right, and I think he will because of

2399
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 2: his name and as far as he's concerned. He's a

2400
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 2: bit of a celebrity really because working with the Four

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01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 2: Letter Network with that quarterback show kids not this guy.

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01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 10: You know.

2403
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to compare him as far as success.

2404
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 2: With the on Sanders, but he's a little bit like

2405
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 2: the On Sanders because he's a personality. I think John

2406
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 2: Gruden will get a job as coaching college football. But

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01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 2: he went to the Georgia practice the other day and

2408
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,560
Speaker 2: he basically said in front of the Georgia kids and

2409
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, this is what he wants to do.

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01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was the right place or time,

2411
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 2: but he sure got what he wanted. He got everybody

2412
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: talking about it.

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01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 4: Look man, everything that he's done over the last year

2414
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 4: has been calculated. You may not have been paying attention

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01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 4: to him, but I do what he coached me. He's

2416
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 4: one of my former coaches and demanded I played for

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01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 4: I respected a ton right.

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01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 3: I spected Gruden he was a young rock star.

2419
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 4: Was his first season with the Oakland Raiders had the energy,

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01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 4: had the quote unquote juice, as they would say, he

2421
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 4: had that great offensive mind. What he's done with Barstool

2422
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 4: is he has been more active. He's going to more

2423
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 4: college campuses. He's delivered various motivational talks to these collegiate teams,

2424
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 4: and he was setting the table for what he eventually

2425
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,600
Speaker 4: wants to do, which is the leader program. No matter what,

2426
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 4: and it doesn't matter how much money he makes off

2427
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 4: a settlement, what he's been able to gather from others

2428
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 4: and that stuff entities. He may love money, but man,

2429
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 4: there's nothing ever places coaching. And for him, man, he's

2430
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 4: dying without coaching, dying without it. Because once he got

2431
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 4: back in, he went all in Derek Carr the Raiders,

2432
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 4: they were on the verge of being a really good team.

2433
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 4: He didn't get a chance to complete the project. Is

2434
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 4: driving him crazy, which is why he wants to get

2435
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 4: back in.

2436
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 1: You know, and you gotta be shocked with his pedigree.

2437
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he went to the University of Dayton and

2438
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 2: he was like a third string quarterback on a Division

2439
01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 2: III program.

2440
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, really and truly, you know what he has done,

2441
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:02,440
Speaker 1: what he's accomplished.

2442
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I think those people who were at Dayton

2443
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 2: at the time are so much shocked how far he

2444
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 2: advanced in football because that doesn't normally happen at a

2445
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 2: school like Dayton.

2446
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 4: No, but he also had somebonsistence along the way, nothing

2447
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 4: wrong with that, like family members, part of organizations that

2448
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 4: kind of cracked the door. And then he did what

2449
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 4: he did with the opportunities. But he had opportunities a

2450
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 4: little bit based on the name, family name, and then

2451
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 4: he looked. He knocked the doors down, became a great coach,

2452
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and

2453
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 4: all of that. So he deserves credit for that. Now,

2454
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 4: the tricky thing for him to navigate is all of

2455
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 4: the salacious information that came out regarding the emails. When

2456
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 4: he goes to a collegiate campus and he's leading young

2457
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 4: people and those young people are going to be a

2458
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 4: diverse population, he might have to explain a way some

2459
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 4: the emails and some of the innuindo that were in

2460
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 4: the that the racial tropes that were in those emails,

2461
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 4: and if he can stand on it and help people

2462
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 4: become comfortable with him as the coach, as the leader

2463
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 4: of the team, as the one that is shaping a

2464
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 4: generation from eighteen to twenty three. That's going to be

2465
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 4: the thing that's the sticking point that he has to

2466
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 4: overcome when it comes to the university's first to parents

2467
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 4: and the kids, but really at the top, you know,

2468
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 4: higher edge institutions.

2469
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 3: I think you want to deal with some of that stuff.

2470
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 3: But like the way, well.

2471
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, wherever, I'm sorry, go ahead, Oh no, no, no,

2472
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: we're good. Okay, okay.

2473
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 2: But you know, as soon as he gets hired, the

2474
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 2: story is going to be such and such school hired

2475
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 2: for X amount of years, here's the contract. But back

2476
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 2: in the day, he had those emails who sent by

2477
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 2: him that include racist and sexist remarks and language, And

2478
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,799
Speaker 2: he's got the answer that's gonna be in the hiring story.

2479
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: It has to be.

2480
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 4: Right. It is it is, and look, fortunately or unfortunate

2481
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 4: whatever it is. Like the tide of the country is

2482
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 4: turning where that might not be a big of an

2483
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 4: issue as it is as it would have been a

2484
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 4: few years ago. Like he may be able to move

2485
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 4: beyond that because like just kind of where we're at,

2486
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 4: you know, in the country and the landscape and the

2487
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 4: way people perceive those things to be. Whatever side you

2488
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 4: stand on from a political standpoint like that might not

2489
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 4: matter or have as big of an impact as it

2490
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 4: would have had, and so.

2491
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 3: That might make it easier for institution to roll with him.

2492
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 4: But remember this, even before that, Hugh Freeze at Auburn

2493
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 4: who went from Old Miss to Liberty or whatever, he

2494
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 4: has some stuff in his background that he's been able

2495
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 4: to overcome. Bobby Petrino has had some stuff in his

2496
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 4: background that he had to overcome. There are others who've

2497
01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 4: had to overcome things. Yeah, Ray Patinos. So so it

2498
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:05,720
Speaker 4: can be done, and it will be done in John

2499
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 4: Gruten's case if he builds the right case to make

2500
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 4: people who are doing the hiring comfortable.

2501
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 2: I would say that John Gruden will get a job

2502
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 2: coaching college football next year, next season.

2503
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't doubt it. I'm just curious

2504
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 4: to see levels. Is it High D one major program

2505
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 4: that does it, Is it a group of five program

2506
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 4: that's willing to do it. Is it a division program

2507
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 4: that doesn't. That's that's the only thing I'm trying to

2508
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 4: figure out. Where is it going to happen? But yeah,

2509
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 4: they're I mean, they're countless jobs. He's qualified in terms

2510
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 4: of what he's done on the field to be able

2511
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 4: to do it. And after you see Belichick go to

2512
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 4: North Carolina and those things he's seeing. Okay, there's a

2513
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 4: there's a way for me to get in the mix

2514
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 4: and find find find a role and find a niche

2515
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 4: for myself.

2516
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 3: Here we go.

2517
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,160
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Speaker 2: post it right.

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Speaker 1: After we get up the year. Now you could yell

2527
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 1: and scream if you like, you could point your.

2528
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 2: Finger, but the blame Game is freaking next on the

2529
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 2: Blame Game coming right up by eleven minutes before the

2530
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: top of the hour, which would be nine o'clock on

2531
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 2: the East Coast.

2532
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: That we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

2533
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, nine o'clock East Coast time Countdown

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01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: with Brian Know, Jeff Schwartz, Bill Krackenberger right here on

2535
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. So you have no reason to go

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01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 2: anywhere else, but right now it's time for the playing game.

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01:55:56,520 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 12: You ruin me, it's all your fault. It's your fault,

2538
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 12: your fault. Maybe it's everyone's faults.

2539
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 9: He's a liar. That's why there's the blame game.

2540
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: Let's figure out who to blame. He's a liar and

2541
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: his name is Eldie.

2542
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 12: He's a liar.

2543
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 8: That's something. That's what the l n LD is for liar, liar, liar, lying, dumper.

2544
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 8: That's me.

2545
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 10: All right, Well I got one for us guys. I

2546
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 10: got one to blame. So Luca don says, we know

2547
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 10: Luca Lakers. That's that's my guy.

2548
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 8: Apparently, he was.

2549
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:36,919
Speaker 10: Playing in a Slovenian euro basketball game, Slovenia versus Latvia.

2550
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 10: He appeared two limp off the court and injured his

2551
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:42,879
Speaker 10: knee getting ran into by a teammate.

2552
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 8: Who do you blame for all this going on while

2553
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 8: playing EuroBasket? Who do you blame? Andy?

2554
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 1: I blame himself because he lost too much weight.

2555
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 2: If he hadn't let weight on him, he wouldn't have

2556
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 2: been banged around, right, He'd be like a hot thing

2557
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 2: to move. He'd be like a telephone pole, that's what

2558
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 2: he'd be. Now he's too skinny, heat.

2559
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 3: You want him to eat.

2560
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 4: We complain about him being out of shape. Now he's

2561
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 4: in shape and skinny. He gets banged a round. It's okay.

2562
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 2: He'll beavericks to the playoffs.

2563
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 10: So he's out of shape, he gets made fun of

2564
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 10: him for being fat, and you're telling him to My god,

2565
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 10: no one's ever happy with.

2566
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a porker. We needed to get him.

2567
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 3: We need to get him down.

2568
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, seriously. Oh lord, thank you, mighty, thank you, thank you.

2569
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 10: All right, So it seems the w n b A

2570
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 10: has more fisticuffs than the NBA. Do women like to

2571
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 10: fight more than men? Who do you blame on this one?

2572
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 8: Bucky?

2573
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 7: Uh?

2574
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 3: More than men?

2575
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say yes, But it's a little feisty. It's

2576
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:54,839
Speaker 4: a little feisty, little spicy, taking close the playoffs.

2577
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm okay with it.

2578
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 4: I mean, who doesn't like to see a good brawl

2579
01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 4: every now and then?

2580
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my wife joined the U n b A.

2581
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 1: How's that sounds?

2582
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 3: Okay?

2583
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 4: All right?

2584
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 1: I blame that the women like to fight. That got

2585
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 1: you know why not. It's great. You want to blame,

2586
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 1: blame the commissioner. She hasn't stopped it. She's weak. That

2587
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 1: commission is really weak.

2588
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 3: In the w n B A did you go?

2589
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching him.

2590
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 8: Have more questions?

2591
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: Is really starting it all to Sophie Cunningham. She's getting

2592
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: it going to.

2593
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:26,919
Speaker 3: She's popular.

2594
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I have more questions, but that's for another day.

2595
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 10: Moving on, we have after more than a year to

2596
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:37,839
Speaker 10: your time, NFL MVP Lamar Jackson has withdrawn his challenge

2597
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 10: to Pro Football Hall of Fame qby Troy Aigman's use

2598
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 10: of the number eight in trademarks.

2599
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 8: Who do you blame for this one?

2600
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 9: Andy?

2601
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 2: I don't blame anybody. I think Lamar finally got small. Say,

2602
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, the heck with it? Let him have his number.

2603
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 2: You know what, who cares?

2604
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 1: No one knows who? Eight committees now anyway, yesterday's news.

2605
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 4: I mean I can really understand what the deal was,

2606
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 4: what he was aiming for. But yeah, I mean I'm

2607
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 4: okay with him dropping it. I mean people are gonna

2608
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 4: follow Lamar because he's a cultural icon, so he'd be fun.

2609
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, all right, guys.

2610
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 10: Well, the Big Twelve will release player availability reports for

2611
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 10: football and men's and women's basketball before all conference games,

2612
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 10: daily injury reports and the like like that, et cetera.

2613
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 8: Who do you blame Bucky?

2614
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 4: The gamblers? The gamblers d that, that's not this is

2615
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 4: not anything for the fans.

2616
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 3: Why do we here?

2617
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 4: The only reason we here is because we're putting a

2618
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 4: small little wager on these games, and the availability helps us.

2619
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 3: That's what this is about. Like, it is what it is.

2620
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 3: Like we were with the sportsbooks.

2621
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: Now this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of,

2622
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 2: because not only it's gonna affect the gamblers and the

2623
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 2: gambling casino deals because they're gonna bet on these games,

2624
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 2: but more than that, all of a sudden, now the players.

2625
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 1: Are gonna bet on it.

2626
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna see more players getting in trouble for gambling.

2627
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 2: I promise you probably. I don't think there aren't that. Like, wait,

2628
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 2: how many people go to a casino in Vegas and

2629
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 2: bet on a Big twelve women's basketball game?

2630
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: Are you freaking kidding me? Really?

2631
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 2: You gotta be a downright degenerate to been on a

2632
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 2: woman's Big twelve basketball game?

2633
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: Really?

2634
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I can't do it, but I

2635
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 4: mean I wouldn't put it past me if I had

2636
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 4: the freedom and to be able to do it. I mean,

2637
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 4: there's some good games out there, Andy, there's some good teams.

2638
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 4: Big Twiff Texas is good. There's some other teams. I mean,

2639
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 4: there's some teams out there. I would you know, the

2640
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 4: friendly wager every now and then would be okay, you.

2641
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 2: Think so, I don't know. I'll talk that the Countdown

2642
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 2: guys on the next show. I'm gonna listen see if

2643
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 2: they talk about that. Because it's crazy, it's not good,

2644
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 2: it's not healthy. It's not a good thing. I'm telling

2645
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 2: you because it brings sports down. There we go, and

2646
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 2: speaking of that Countdowns right around the corner, you guys

2647
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 2: have thank you for your hell of great week.

2648
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Buckets. Feel better see a Sunday right here on Fox

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02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 1: by now