1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, October tenth, twenty twenty two, 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Season eighteen, Episode and forty seven. Welcome to the latest 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We are Alive from the SBbc 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Morgan Studios at the Star were presented by mill of Light, 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, and man, this 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: is just becoming a normal thing. On Monday's Cowboys win 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: another game. They beat the Los Angeles Rams twenty two 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: to ten. They have now run the gauntlet on the 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl teams, beat both of them within a 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: matter of three weeks, four weeks, so doing really well. 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: And we'll start where we start on typically on Mondays. 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: What was the story of the game. Let's start with you, Nick. 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: The defense is just nasty. I mean, that's just what 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: we wanted them to be all year. We thought they 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: were going to be a team that the Cowboys could 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: lean on, and we thought that it would be because 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is a badass and they're leaning on the defense. 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: He's been a badass. They're actually scoring points and yet 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: they still refuse to give up more points than they 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: did the week before, and that's five weeks in a row. 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: It was awesome, and there's a lot of other storylines there, 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: but I'll just still the easy one. I think Michael 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Parsons and I wrote it. I think Michael Parsons is 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: the best defensive player in football. I think I think 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: the torch was passed on this day, and I think 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: he's he's the best. Knock him off, although the other 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: one was pretty dub done, pretty damn good. Let's say 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty good and he dominates that defensive line, but 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: this guy dominates the front seven. Can play him anywhere 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: on the front seven. I never saw Aaron Donald go 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: up and guard Charles, even though we probably could have. 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: But I'm saying this guy is actually more versatile than 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Right now, ab what you got, nobody can 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: stop us? Oh gosh, Philadelphia. Now I'm just saying, like, 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, yes, defense it's just it's so impressive what 42 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the score ends up being like, and you see the 43 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: points that they have allowed, and you know, we sit 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: here and we kind of we'll always give them credit 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: to the defense. But when we're analyzing the next opponent, 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the run defense, and we 47 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: talked about you know, people on social media, I want 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: to point out the place that Trevor and Diggs does 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: give up and think say that. I'm like, okay, what's 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: the end result of what they're giving y'all take that 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: all day long. So it's just it's if it's freaking 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: great because I haven't been here with the defense that 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: plays the way that they're playing. We got a little 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: taste of that last year, well pretty decent taste last year, 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: but the way they're playing this year and under another 56 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: year with Dan Quinn and what he's doing with all 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: their player and again, it's just it's the fact that 58 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: it's not just one player. It's not one player, it's 59 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: all of them making plays. A week after week you 60 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: get different guys standing out. So that's what's more impressive 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: to me and more amazing and fun to watch all 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: the time. This team got ten first downs for the day. 63 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: They haven't won a game since I think it was 64 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: November first of nineteen seventy was the last time they 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: did that. It wasn't alive. Yeah, they only got that 66 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: day that day the Philadelphi Eagles. They got only ten 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: first downs or less than one a game the last 68 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: time that has happened. Here, Your offense, your defensive lines 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: are really really good. I mean, the defensive analysis here 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: is very good. This offense isn't turning over the football, 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: and you would think with your backup quarterback that that 72 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: could be a problem. And they're really doing a very 73 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: good job of not giving opponents the short fields and 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: things like that. With the turnovers, they realize the offense 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: realizes that there really are good defensively, they run the 76 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: ball effectively. When we get to who's your player of 77 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: the game, I got my guy in mind for the Cowboys, 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: and it's not a defensive player. But they're doing a 79 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: great job of just saying, you know what, we're good 80 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: enough on special teams, we're good enough playing defense, and 81 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: if we don't f it up on offense, we're going 82 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: to be okay in these things. And that's how they've 83 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: managed to do this and to Kellen Moore, Mike McCarthy, 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, you know, I mean Cooper Rush along the way, 85 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: made some really good throws and had some bad drops. 86 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: Some real I mean, if you if you go back 87 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: and you look at the Lamb drop on third down, 88 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, the Michael Gallup drop. I mean, he put 89 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: the ball where it needed to be. But this guy 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: is refusing even when he gets sacked or gets hit, 91 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: He's holding onto the ball. He's not forcing it into 92 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: some spots. And that's where I think that this team 93 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: is benefiting the most. That now there's going to come 94 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: a point in time where you're gonna have to move 95 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: the ball and you're gonna have to be able to 96 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: be able to sustain drives because your guys are starting 97 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: to get nicked up a little bit, your best players 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: starting to get nicked up, and you know, so to 99 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: put it all on them, I don't think you could 100 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: do that right now. But man, this offense is doing 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: a good job of protecting that football. Let's talk about 102 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. He was ten of sixteen, sixty two percent 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: completion rate, one hundred and two yards pass. Not a 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: great day on the If you look at just the 105 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: raw numbers of that he had three he was sacked 106 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: three times, had an eighty point seven rating. Um. Overall, Brian, 107 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: you gave us your opinion. Amber and Nick, I'd love 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: to hear from you. What were your what was your 109 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: assessment of Cooper Rushing what he was able to do yesterday? 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't f it up. I mean, that's 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's what I mean Brian is saying. 112 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't he didn't do a lot. He 113 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: didn't have to do a lot. And that's that's the 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: key I mean. And that's that's the argument that you know, 115 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: old Dad can do this and all that day and 116 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: of course Dad could do could could he can do this? 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's what he He can easily go 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: out and run an offense like that. I thought. I 119 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: thought Rush played a lot better than his stats show. Um, 120 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: you're right about those throws, you know, in the second half. Now, 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: But I will say this the offensive line. They they 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: they did their job, They really did. They They it 123 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: was a it was tough sledding out there, but man 124 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: for them to keep running it the way they did 125 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: and protected him. Um, you know, I thought you're dealing 126 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: with a guy and Aaron Donald who moves all around. 127 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: But I thought all of them had had moments of 128 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: playing really well. And like Brian said about Rush, he 129 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: doesn't fumble, it doesn't throw the picks. He tries sometimes 130 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: throw that interception ball just nobody wants it, but some 131 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: of those in almost every game where it just doesn't happen. 132 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: In that first half, I didn't think he was it 133 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: was as good. He missed some throws there. Second half though, 134 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: everything was pretty much on the money. That ball to 135 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: to gallop down the sideline, I mean, that was a 136 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: beautiful throw. Now, of course the catch was amazing, but 137 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: he throws the ball really well down. I just thought, 138 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, they're not asking him to do a lot. 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: You don't have to do a lot, and he's doing 140 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: just enough. Yeah, he's doing a great job so far 141 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback. And I mean there's a reason 142 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: why he's a bike up quarterback. So he's doing what 143 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you need him to do to kind of keep this 144 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: team afloat and the offense moving. But I'm at the 145 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: point where now I'm like, Okay, I'm ready to see 146 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Dak back in the team. I'm ready to see what 147 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: he can do with this offense get more points because 148 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: we're at that spot where, Okay, yes it's great for 149 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: the defense to be playing the way that they are, 150 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: but now we need the offense to do a little 151 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: something more for the defense. So I'm ready. I'm past 152 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: the whole thought. You know, I was kind of entertaining 153 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: in my head nick thought a few weeks ago of 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: like I'm sticking with the guy who's winning. Well, now 155 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm past that and I'm ready to play. Yeah it 156 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: sounds like, oh yeah, kind of like that, but yes, 157 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready to have Dak back on this because it 158 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: makes me wonder, Okay, how much more can they score? 159 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: And we know Dak. I don't think his level of 160 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: playing is completely like, I don't think that game was 161 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: a good reflection of what he really is the first 162 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: game of the season. So I can't wait to see 163 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: him back, and I'm wondering when that's gonna be. If 164 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: we'll see if he has a full practice this week, 165 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: but I would imagine we're kind of getting to that 166 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: point where he's gonna be back into action. Yeah, go ahead, 167 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: I just yeah. I think Ambar and Nick both are 168 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: right about that the thing. The thing with Dak and 169 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: this week will be. I think if Dak had thrown 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: the ball last week, or we'd heard about, you know, practices. 171 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: You guys live in this building, you live with the players, 172 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: you understand all this. You start to hear whispers and 173 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: I had a good week throwing the ball. Somebody to 174 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: walk up to you. That just hasn't been the case. 175 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: The fact that he has another visit with the doctor 176 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday and not on a Monday, you know, 177 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: kind of because maybe it's an off day and stuff 178 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: like that. I think there's probably another week away, you know. 179 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I just haven't heard that for sure. But I wasn't 180 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: hearing anything like man last week he threw the ball. Well, 181 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: I think he's going to need more than just the 182 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: normal practices this week in order to get ready for 183 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah. I think that's the part that if 184 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: you look at at what Cooper Rush did this last game, 185 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that will be enough against Philadelphia because 186 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia has a better I don't think their 187 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: receivers are better than that receiver that you saw he's 188 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: all yesterday, but I think as an offense, I think 189 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: they are better or offense um, and I do think 190 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: this will be a game where you may need a 191 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: little bit more than what you were able to get yesterday. 192 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: And I'm a little concerned about that part of whether 193 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Cooper can really step up this offense, get this offense 194 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: operated a little bit better. Like the running game was good, 195 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: but you need the passing game to give you some 196 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: of that too when you're playing a better offense that 197 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: also has a good defense. By the way, what's what's 198 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: the highest I'm trying to think how many touchdown we've scored, 199 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Like what has been the most in one game, not 200 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: field goals or anything. Two touchdowns two for the two 201 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: against the Bengals and two against the Giants. The highest 202 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: points they've had offensively, they've been twenty five in a game, right, 203 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, that that would be I would I know 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Dak's average was was high lash higher than that for sure. 205 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Now part of that was you gotta and I don't 206 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: know if you want to take stuff out, but you 207 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: want to start looking at you can you can make 208 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: the argument that some of those games against the NFC East, 209 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: particularly that last game where they scored just fifty one, 210 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: they caught, they caught, they caught the Commanders for fifty 211 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: and they caught the Eagles, and the Eagles didn't play 212 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: most of the guys for that game. So that kind 213 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: of game, like, if you want to take that, you can. 214 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: But fact the matter is Dak throughout his career and 215 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: certainly last year was averaging more than than what they're 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: averaging right now offensively as far as points, I do 217 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: believe the offense gets better with Dak. Yeah, And so 218 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: that being said, like it's just a matter of you're 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: doing what you need to do. I think you put 220 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: it perfectly amber he as a backup quarterback. He's doing 221 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: what a backup quarterback should do. A really good backup 222 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: quarterback should be able to find a way to just 223 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: give you enough so you don't lose in those games 224 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: where you're just trying to maintain without your start. And 225 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: I think that's what he's doing right now. Yeah. I 226 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: thought one thing that really helped him was on first 227 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: down that Cowboys did a nice job running the football. 228 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Never I just looked this up. The average seven point 229 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: eight yards a pop on first down running the ball. Yeah. 230 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Now they had a big run in there, but with Pollard, 231 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: but but that was that was and that play was 232 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: absolutely well blocked. I mean by everybody. Everybody across the 233 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: line did a good job on the field too. Down 234 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: the field, yeah, I mean, hender shot and Phoko down 235 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: there blocking. And that's another thing. When Phoco's in the game, 236 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: game like, it's probably gonna be a run. I mean that, 237 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: that's what they typically show. He just taking over the 238 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: Noah Brown rule right right like over here. So maybe 239 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: five years from now he will be actually pretty good. Yeah, yeah, this, 240 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it last week on the show. 241 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: The way to attack this RAM defense was to run 242 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the football at them that you know they want to 243 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: get up field and all that. And I think the 244 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys did a good job overall of getting hat on 245 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: hat and then making some very physical runs in this game. 246 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that running game a little bit more. 247 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: Zeke was twenty two carries for seventy eight yards or 248 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: three point five average. At one point. Seemed like he 249 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: was every time he tested the balls five yards. I 250 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: hate to seem like he was just bulldozing his way 251 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: to five yards. Paulard had eight for eighty six ten 252 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: point eight average. With the big fifty seven yard TD 253 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: he is the home run hitter and very very adept 254 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: at that role for this team. That all being said, 255 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: with a great defense an efficient running game, do you 256 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: think Dallas really can match up with any team in 257 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: the NFL matchup? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because as what they 258 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: can do is if they can get you in a 259 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: situation where you have where you're you're you say, you 260 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: have a negative play, you know, and you're now you're 261 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: second and twelve or you know, you're second and ten, 262 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: because they can now you know, teams, not all teams 263 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: are willing to run the ball on second and ten, 264 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, because Dallas is going to get you in 265 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: that situation and they're going to come after you. So yeah, 266 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: they could play against anybody bye bye if they keep you. 267 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: I was worried about this game where the Rams would 268 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: stay with ahead of the chains, you know, because they 269 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: don't get penalized. And then you had a crew. Bill 270 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Vinovitch's crew doesn't call a lot of penalties. So it's thinking, Okay, 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: how do you get how do you get the Rams 272 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: into some negative yarded situations? And the Cowboys did a 273 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: great job of choking the run. They had some tackles 274 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: for losses and stuff like that. So yeah, as long 275 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: as the running game doesn't have an effect in a 276 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: positive way, Dallas could beat anybody in this league. And 277 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm coming to the realization of, like, okay, 278 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: we don't need splashy, flashy plays from the running game 279 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: all the time kind of how you know, back to 280 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: when Zeke got here. I think I still have that 281 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: in my head of like, Okay, this running game can 282 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: possibly look like that again, but take out Tony Poler's 283 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: run the long one for the touch them the running game. 284 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it can work the way it went down, 285 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: like then running the ball in that way not necessarily 286 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: us or I should speak for myself, but me expecting, okay, 287 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: when when is it gonna happen that Zeke is gonna 288 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: have that flashy play where you keep expecting them to 289 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: run for over five more yards if that's the average, 290 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, And it's like, Okay, this can work, and 291 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: it can create that balance that we keep talking about 292 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: between the running game and the passing game. So I 293 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: think I'm at that point where I'm like, Okay, this 294 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: this running game can be effective with Zeke and Tony Polar. Obviously, 295 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: Tony Polar kind of gives you more speed in that 296 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: way of him being able to skate, but for him 297 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: to do that, you also need a guy like Zeke 298 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing as well. So it's just mum 299 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: burying the thought of like my expectations and realizing that 300 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: this is okay enough and you add the pretty nice 301 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: passing game with Dak Prescott coming back, expecting that I 302 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: think it can. It can work really well balanced out 303 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah. I think a lot of people have 304 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: to remember too. When you get Dak back, whatever point 305 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: that comes, hopefully you still got Michael Gallop in the lineup, 306 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: and as we saw yesterday, he is a big play 307 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: type receiver that they didn't have the benefit of in 308 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: Week one. You add him to ceedee Lamb. You got 309 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Noah Brown kind of adding a little bit into that mix. 310 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I think you got a good enough wide receiver crew 311 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: to where you can if you're just averaging let's say 312 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: you're averaging twenty points without Dak, I think you can 313 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: push that average up to about a touchdown war with 314 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: Dak and these these receivers that he didn't have on 315 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Week one. So the last two weeks thought Volts hadn't 316 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: been a factory exact catch. So I think there's some 317 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I think there's plenty of reason to believe this offense 318 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: will be much more effective and efficient in the passing 319 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: game once Dak is back. All Right, we're gonna take 320 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back, we want to 321 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: talk about the offensive line, particularly Tyler Smith. He has 322 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: had a phenomenal start to his rookie year. Yesterday gotta 323 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL moment or a few of those moments. 324 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come back. This is 325 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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He's been really impressive, 370 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: especially when you put it in the context of he 371 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: is a rookie making his first start and didn't even 372 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: do this playing left tackle most of the time that 373 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: he's been with the Cowboys during the offseason. That being said, 374 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: yesterday he faces what Nick thinks is the second best 375 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: defensive player in the league in Aaron Donald and uh, 376 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: and you gotta stick with that, um and and Aaron 377 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: Donald covered the Rams and I don't have to go 378 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: in the locker room in the Rams locker room, but 379 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: you talked to you talked to Tyler Smith after the game. 380 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: What was his demeanor because it was a game where 381 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he had two two situations where he kind 382 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: of let Donald buy Donald forced to fumble, He had 383 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: two holding calls. I think it was against Donald. It 384 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: was a tough day for him. What was his demeanor 385 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: like after the game? A guy that that just when, 386 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, got a lesson, but he understood and he 387 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I think he's excited about learning from it. 388 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be really good because mentally, he 389 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: doesn't get down on himself, and he's and he's he 390 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: takes coaching. The guy that coached him the most yesterday 391 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: was Jason Peters. Jason Peters off to the side, helped him. 392 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Of course, he's got a rib injury. We'll see how 393 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: how long that's gonna be. But I thought he, you know, 394 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: he understood what he was doing wrong. He had a 395 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: guy he could kind of lean on the sideline, came 396 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: back I thought he cleaned it up a little bit, 397 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: and let's not forget and I put this as one 398 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: of my five plays. Gives up a sack, gets a 399 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: holding penalty, which you obviously wasn't holding very well because 400 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: this guy got a sack. Quarterback fumbles. He recovers that 401 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: fumble that could have been a huge, huge change there 402 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: for the Rams. So I thought that was big. Yeah, 403 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: we were talking to him last night. He said, Yeah, 404 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the least I could do in that situation to get 405 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: the ball on the ball. He's like, at least I 406 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: could get the ball, And you're right. I love his demeanor, 407 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: the way he approaches it, Like there are a lot 408 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: of guys that can get really down on themselves, and 409 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: it's easy when you got everybody telling you, you know 410 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: how bad you did, and you saw how bad you did, 411 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: like you can get down yourself. But it sounded to 412 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: me like he's the kind of guy has the right 413 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: kind of mentality. Yeah, and he can watched y'all twenty 414 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: two and he probably did on the way home, and 415 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: he could watch an all Pro Hall of Fame right 416 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: guard have struggles with him too. Yeah, you know, I 417 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: mean that it wasn't easy it wasn't easy for Zack 418 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: Martin in that game. The guy that played him the 419 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: absolute best was Connor McGovern. Connor McGovern, it's crazy to 420 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: say that a guy that's not really the best athlete 421 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: but kind of a maller brawler kind of guy gives 422 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: him the most problems. And that's the thing about it 423 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: was there were a couple of times the long run 424 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: we mentioned the scoop blocks were really really good, but 425 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: when it came down to just him having to deal 426 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: with with Donald's quickness, he kind of powered him and 427 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: then it got him kind of off balance. But you 428 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: you watch, like I say, it wasn't you know. I 429 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: felt like that Tyler Smith got better as the game 430 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: went on when that matchup kind of came his way. 431 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: It's the first two. It was like, the very first 432 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Snappy had against him was the you know, oh damn moment. 433 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: You know that that was, and then the second one 434 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: was another oh damn moment. But after that it was 435 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, okay. But you can watch Aaron 436 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: Donald walk Zach Martin back into Cooper Rush as he's 437 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: trying to throw the ball over to ceedee lamb, you know, 438 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: and it short hops was his first pass when yeah, 439 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: you could see Martin. You could see Martin really struggling 440 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: to even sit down on him, and Connor McGovern was 441 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of a you know, fighting him and knocking him 442 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: around a little bit. And I thought that if you 443 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: ask me for you know, you could say player of 444 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the game, Parsons and this and that. Give me what 445 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: Connor McGovern was able to do against a guy that 446 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: is just an absolute pain in the ass to deal 447 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: with when on that inside rush, Yeah, it's pretty impressive. 448 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: And going back to Tyler Smith, I remember when those 449 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: couple of plays happened. I was in the press box 450 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: of being like, Okay, well there we go. Donald found 451 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: his spot and he's gonna go at him every snap. 452 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: And it didn't really go down that way, didn't materialize 453 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: that way. They kept consistent with how they move it, 454 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: and they started and they started the game. The first 455 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: five or six snapps were against Zack Morton and then 456 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: finally they moved him over and then they started playing 457 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: him on the shoulder of Connor McGovern, and Connor McGovern's 458 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: eyes got really really big and then he was battling 459 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: him over there. But when they had to run the ball, 460 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: and it was those two guys handling those guys over there. 461 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: They were up to the task that those first two 462 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: snaps for for Tyler Smith were like, oh geez, my 463 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: life is about to become a living hell. And they 464 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: moved him away and he kind of like, okay, and 465 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: catch a break, now, catch a breath here. Well, so yeah, 466 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: that when I talked to Zach after the game, he 467 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: mentioned that, he said they do a good job of 468 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: moving Donald around, but they don't want to keep him 469 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: on the outside. And I even tweeted that too, because 470 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: I said, well, they use that to your advantage. If 471 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna just go up against Tyler Smith all day 472 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: on the left side, then we're just gonna run over here, 473 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: like we're just gonna run, I mean, and you can't 474 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: have your best player always on the side. That's why 475 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Mica Parsons moves around like that too, And so you know, 476 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: I thought I thought that was that was bad for 477 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: Tyler for a little bit, but he did settle down 478 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: and then other guys got it, got a you know, 479 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: hat on a hat on him too. Yeah, everybody did 480 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: a good job when those first two were just yeah, 481 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: you close your eyes and you know, when you go 482 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: back and you know, maybe you know, five six years 483 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: from now, Tyler Smith will go, hey, what was it 484 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: like to play against Sarah Donald? Oh, let me tell 485 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: you man that you know, and then he'll have that 486 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: moment where he can recall. But you know, he once 487 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: those two plays went away, they did a much better 488 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: job of dealing with him. I bet you Larry Allen 489 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: won more battles against Reggie White in his career, but 490 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I can promise you his rookie year, Reggie White threw him. Yeah, 491 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: he threw him like ten fifteen yards this way. Um, 492 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: Larry probably won a lot more as the time time 493 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: went on. But but well, you know, you have your 494 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: moments like that. It's funny you say that the guy 495 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: that gave Larry Allen actually gave Reggie White the most 496 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: problems was Eric Williams, who's a baller brawler type of 497 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: a guy. Just a tough guy, hitching the throw, poke 498 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: in the eye, hitching the lower area. You know that 499 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Yeah, you look at in the growing, 500 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: you look at at at Tyrant's during his rookie year. 501 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: You remember how DeMarcus was kind of treating him like that, 502 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: and it was you know that that's just the nature 503 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: of it. When you're young and you're coming in you 504 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: have to deal with some of these guys that are 505 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: vets and heading towards the Hall of Fame like it's 506 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. Do you wear and Tyrans? 507 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: Say Tyler? I said Tyrant meeting Tyrant? Okay, well, in 508 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: my mind I was a thinking too of Tyring and Tank. Yeah, yeah, 509 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: then you know he threw Tank around and broke his 510 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: foot from ten weeks And that's just the nature of it. 511 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: You're coming in the league, you gotta deal with these vets, 512 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: like you find out this is a grown man league. 513 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: These a grown man have been doing this and know 514 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: how to do it really well, and you got to 515 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: get catch up to it. And that's why I think 516 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: the demeanor is so important. How And that's why I 517 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: asked me a question, because how how Tyler's demeanor is 518 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: will be will dictate probably how successfully can be when 519 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: you have to face those kind of moments and how 520 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: you rebound her those I want to again, I was 521 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna say again this is another week that of another 522 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: example of the players how we talk about that are very, 523 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: very talented around the NFL. That at the end of 524 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: the game, like they they didn't completely dominate you or 525 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: kill you, so you live to talk about it. Yes, 526 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't have to drop back, you know, 527 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: save the equipment, dig a. Did you know you didn't 528 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: have to do that? You manage you Actually you walk off, 529 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: but you're thinking, I never want to play against that 530 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: guy again. But you live to tell about Liz. You're 531 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: walking on your own two legs on your way to 532 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: the buses and everything. So yeah, and your sandwich, get 533 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: on the bus and go for it. Yeah. Yeah, it's 534 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: still again impressive, impressive that they're just having killed them completely. 535 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I do want to stick with offensive line and talk 536 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: about somebody we haven't talked about in weeks, and that's 537 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: probably a good thing. But what did you guys think 538 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: of Terrence Steele's play? Because I just, honestly, I'm not 539 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: noticing him, which is a great thing for a tackle 540 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: if you're not really noticing him. I'm the I'm the 541 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: folk on the panel here that probably has the biggest 542 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: problem with him, and he is. I think he's a 543 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: much better run blocker than he's a pass blocker because 544 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: there's things that happen to him too. His technique gets 545 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: broken down as well. But when you watch him the 546 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: last several weeks, he has not been the reason why 547 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: you've struggled in pass protection or in run block. I 548 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: mean he's he's done a really good job. And I 549 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of felt like that that with with Cooper Rush 550 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: playing quarterback, the little bit of lack of mobility, that 551 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: there would be more issues there that he would get 552 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: driven back. He's played a little bit more power than 553 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: I thought he would play with. And so yeah, the 554 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: when he when he run blocks, he's really good when 555 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: the ball goes away, and he's athletic enough to make 556 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: that cut off or the reach block on the outside. 557 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: These young tight ends are helping him too with some 558 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: of the blocks at the point of attacks. So yeah, 559 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: I can't you know, I can't complain about him. And 560 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: and he was I wasn't concerned about left guard or 561 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: left tackle. I was concerned about the right tackle. But 562 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: he's playing a lot better than I believed. He's so 563 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: good for him, And give Joe Filan a credit for 564 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: getting not done. No, you're not gonna penalty penalty penalty calls. 565 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: You're not um. He's not really allowing sa sacked. So 566 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: to your point, Derek, it's one of those that you 567 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: don't really notice. That's a good Yeah, that's that's a 568 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: good thing. Like no problem, keep doing you and you know, 569 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: as long as we don't keep seeing his name being 570 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: called on a penalty hole or something like that, then 571 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: keep at it. Yeah, I was it's interesting because you 572 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: look at this at what Philbin has done since he 573 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: got here, and I know he's taken some criticism at times, 574 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: but man, he has developed some guys that on a 575 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: lot of teams probably are guys that running the door. 576 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: You keep him for a couple of years and you 577 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: eventually let him go. And you think about Terrence Steele 578 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: now starting mcgovernor now starting as you said, like McGovern's 579 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: getting to the point where he's getting really good at guard. 580 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: He held off Tyler Smith throughout the entire camp, and 581 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: he's getting to a point where I think he is 582 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: he is making a case, whether it's going to be 583 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: here or somewhere else, he's going to be a starter 584 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: in the league at God. Yeah, it wasn't pretty form 585 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: against the commanders, but it wasn't pretty for many of 586 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: those guys inside against that crew, and they'll have a 587 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: chance another again. Pretty good guy exactly. And that's the 588 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: thing about it is sometimes those maller brawler guys, that 589 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: just takes them a little bit time to kind of 590 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: get back in the flow of being that type of 591 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: a mauler brawler guy. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take 592 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: our final break, comeback. We're gonna flip over to the 593 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Man. There's some means to 594 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: talk about there well that when we come right back. 595 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. The season is finally here. 596 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: For months, we've been gearing up to win. 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Back to the Break. 632 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: Limited tickets for the remaining home games of the twenty 633 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: twenty two Dallas Coup with season at Stadium are available now. 634 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: Visit Dallas Coup dot com plush tickets or seek geek 635 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: dot com, the official ticketing provider of AT and T Stadium. 636 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: Final segment of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage 637 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: Studios at the Star. Thank you guys for joining us, 638 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: and now it's time to talk about the defense. This 639 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: defense is remarkable. Check out some of the numbers from yesterday. 640 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: Here's the most important part to me. They stopped the run, 641 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: which they had not been doing in a lot of 642 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 1: their games earlier this season. They only allowed thirty eight 643 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: yards on fifteen attempts at two point five average. I 644 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: do think the Rams probably gave up on their run 645 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: a little bit early. I probably would have stuck with 646 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: it a little bit more, see if I could pop one, 647 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: but they did not until credit to Cowboys defense, they 648 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: only allowed ten points. This is the first time since 649 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two if the Cowboys have allowed under twenty 650 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: points in the first five games of the season. That 651 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: goes back to my birth year that they have done that. 652 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: That is amazing. This defense is doing some really remarkable things. 653 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: Five sacks, eleven quarterback hits. They had three turnovers yesterday, 654 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: which is something that hadn't really been a part of 655 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: their game this year. Last year it was a big 656 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: part of their defense. Wasn't something you would think is 657 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: sustainable year over year, and they're doing it a different 658 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: way this year. But yesterday they did get those turnovers. 659 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: That all being said, talk to me about some of 660 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: the standout players yesterday, who stood out most to you 661 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: yesterday on the defensive side of the ball, And there 662 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of answers to this. I wanted to 663 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: mention Dorian's armstrong. I think the job that he's doing 664 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: and what he's doing with all the opportunities that he's 665 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: been given since Randy Gregory's departure has been incredible. Yeah bye, 666 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, he's a guy that you know when he 667 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: came in, he showed some talent initially when he first 668 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: got here, and I remember de Marcus Lawrence. He actually 669 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of took him under his wing and was kind 670 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: of mentoring him along the way. And there was a 671 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: point there where I was just like, hmm, I wonder 672 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: what de Marcus sees in him? Because I respect de 673 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: Marcus a lot, and at that point, de Marcus was 674 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: pretty hot in his game. So it just I knew 675 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: there was a reason, because nobody just randomly takes you 676 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: under your wing if they don't see something in you. 677 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: So again, I love the way. I love the fact 678 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have stuck with him, and because I 679 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: think he's a guy that could have easily been gone 680 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: already and he hasn't. He's taken eventually. It's just impressive. 681 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: What he's doing on the defense and what he's doing 682 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: on special teams. It's incredible. So I applaud him and 683 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: I think he's doing an amazing job. Yeah for me, 684 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: the guy I mean, other than of course Micah, but 685 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: the guy I thought played a great game, Maybe the 686 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: best of his career was Osa dig Zua. I thought 687 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: he he was. You know, he's the UCLA guys. He's 688 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: playing back home again or at least you know, college area. Um. 689 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: And he was a menace in the backfield. I mean 690 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: he had four quarterback hits and a couple tackles for 691 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: loss in a sack. Yeah, good job for osa O Dighizuwa. 692 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: It's always gotta say it. That was you know how 693 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: to spell? Yeah, got that right. Um. This was a 694 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: really really good game for Sam Williams. Yeah, it was. 695 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: And Sam Williams was thrown into action extensive when Mica 696 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: started getting hurt, when Mica was starting to come up 697 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: a little bit limpy, and you know, and so that 698 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: in itself you had to have somebody that was going 699 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: to pick up the pick up the rush, work on 700 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: the twists, through those types of things. You know, you 701 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: got to have somebody If MICA's this guy that's always attacking. 702 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: Sam Williams took it upon himself to be the attacker. 703 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: He went after it and in this game, and I 704 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: was really I was impressed by the way that he 705 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: was able to play and how physical and they stand 706 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: him up like you know, Mica stands up and rushes. 707 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes Sam puts his hand down. But this time they 708 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: took Sam and stood him up and played him in 709 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: that role, and he really did a nice job doing that. 710 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you another guy too when you get 711 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: to watch the All twenty two, and he's not going 712 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: to show up on the stat sheet. Carlos Watkins played 713 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: a really really good football game for you there too. 714 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: And he was one of those guys that elevated off 715 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: the practice squad and he went in there a defensive 716 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what he was when it came 717 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: to defending the run. When it came to some of 718 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: the pressure that he was able to get the push 719 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: they were able to middle, get in the pocket, the 720 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: twist game stuff he was really really good at. Again, 721 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: he's not going to show up in your box score, 722 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: but when you watch the tape, it's very much that 723 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: that Ah there is there is again trying to tip 724 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: balls going up, you know, helping you know, taking blockers 725 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: with him is so the linebackers can flow and go 726 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: get the go get the ball man. Him and Sam 727 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: Williams were the two guys that really to me kind 728 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: of jumped out as like, okay, and this is why 729 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: they're winning these games with defense, because it's not all 730 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: about Parsons and Digs and vander ash and these guys. 731 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: It's it's guys that are filling in that are having 732 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: to play because Quentin Bohan is not active. You know, 733 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: That's what this team has done. It's taken backup players 734 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: and finding ways to win football games. Talk to me 735 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: about something, Bryant when you mentioned Sam Williams and something 736 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: that I feel like I've noticed and we've talked about 737 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: him being kind of his game being a little too 738 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: reckless at times and him needing to clear. I feel 739 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: that this past couple of games, especially this last one, 740 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: that's something that I've seen like incredible growth and improvement 741 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: in I don't know if there's something specific that you 742 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: were able to see from him and his gaming, the 743 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: way that he's quickly been able to kind of show 744 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: some growth in that aspect of thing. Yeah, I think 745 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where the coaches probably got 746 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: with him and said, we're not going to play if 747 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: we can't trust you get you know, you can't get 748 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: stupid penalties. You can't get roughing the pass or personal 749 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: foul or lining up off sides or anything like that. 750 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: If you want to play. You've got to do it 751 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: the way we're going to to teach you. Yesterday they 752 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: threw him again in the deep end of the pool 753 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: and said, go swim. You know, either gonna drown or swim. 754 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: And you know, that's just the trust. You know, when 755 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: you when you get when you you know how it 756 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: is when when people trust you to do the job, 757 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: you do a better job of it. When you're when 758 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: you don't feel that way, When you don't feel like that, 759 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: now they don't care, and then you're you're sloppy with 760 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: the way you perform. I think he was sloppy. I 761 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: think there was things at Mississippi that he was just 762 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: such a naturally good player that they just kind of 763 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: let it go. Here. You got to play within the scheme. 764 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: You can't get stupid penalties. And if we ask you 765 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: to rush the passer or run on the pick, you 766 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: got to set the pick and get somebody else home. 767 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: And I think that that's where he's kind of learning 768 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: along the way, is that watching these guys play. Watch 769 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lords and you're all twenty two on the tackle 770 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: he makes on the third down, and I think it's 771 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: third and eighteen, and they get they throw the ball 772 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: on a screen and he comes all the way from 773 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: the defensive inSpot all the way to make the tackle. 774 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: With it's close, it's gonna be a near If you 775 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: didn't make the tackle, it's a first down. But he 776 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: runs basically fifteen yards to make the tackle that shows 777 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: up on film. So if you're Sam Williams, you're like, 778 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: what God dank? Look look what Tank did there. And 779 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: he had a play like that too, where where he 780 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: rushed the passer and then went back out back and 781 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: it did a nice job that way. So yeah, I mean, 782 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: and also he's he's just a few inches away from 783 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: from probably making this game an absolute blowout. Now this 784 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: was one sided, I thought for the most part. But 785 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: give the Rams credit for I mean, that was a 786 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: risky move on a fake punt right down there like that. 787 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: They're down nineteen to ten or sixteen to ten, and 788 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: Sam Williams saw it and and just just didn't get 789 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: his hand up. And if he would have moved it 790 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: over and and and bats it down, then they get 791 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: the ball to twenty five yard line, maybe another field 792 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: goal going in, you know, to the locker room, and 793 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: then I think the game would have been on an 794 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: absolute blowout. So my guy Jody Camillis, you know he 795 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: I saw him before the game and you know, he said, man, 796 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: we're just trying to We're just he was Joe s 797 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: the Ragman. Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, we talked 798 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: about that, and you know a JFA. You know, Joe 799 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: had the best he would Yeah, he wouldn't ever be 800 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: able to teach Sunday school. But yeah, but but he's 801 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: he's not ever gonna change. But he's one of my 802 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: favorite um people ever in the NFL. Just just a 803 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: real good dude and still doing it, man, still doing 804 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: it for the ram I remember, I remember when I 805 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: was working in the league that that Joe when he 806 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: was with the Broncos and then he was with the 807 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: Giants and falcon and stuff. But you had he had 808 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: one of the longest reels of fake trick plays. Yeah, 809 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: he had all the trick plays. So if you wanted 810 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: to ever study, Hey what are teams doing trick? Just 811 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: here go get Joe D. Camillis's trick plays and you 812 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: could you could pick up them, you could get them all. Yeah, 813 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's that kind of guy. Talking to me 814 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: about Treyvon Diggs because yesterday, of the ten points he 815 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: was involved in both of those two scoring drives. Gave 816 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: up the one long touchdown to Cooper Cup and then 817 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: gave up the big big played at well that got 818 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: them into field goal. I thought he played a really 819 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: good game, honestly, go back and yeah, go back, you 820 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: look at it. You can. This is a glass half 821 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: full or empty type of situation. He gave up all 822 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: of your points. He's the he's one of he is 823 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: the reason that you gave up ten points. He's the 824 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: reason you gave up ten points. Yeah, So which way 825 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: is it? I mean I thought he I mean, going 826 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: up against Cooper Cup, the guy makes a great catch. 827 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: Great catch, by the way, that's Cooper Cup. Yeah, and 828 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best receiver in the league, maybe 829 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: top three, but definitely up there. I thought he probably 830 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: thought there was gonna be some safety help on that 831 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: deep throw. Yeah he's still there. I mean, like I 832 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: but it's not like one of those situations where we 833 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: were seen in the past with other players that he's like, dude, 834 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: what are you doing there? Like the ball is over there, 835 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: like like in all those plays Trouble and Digs is 836 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: like right, there, so it's it's not like he's all 837 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: the way on the other side. I'm figuring out and 838 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: it's not a no offense, but it's not a Cheeto 839 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: than because Cheeto was always there and they were always 840 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: catching it like he but but he he knocks it 841 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: down and he's got what ten PPUs more than the 842 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: Packers as a team. Yeah, yeah, he leaves the NFL 843 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: and PPUs. Yeah, but he's there. Yeah, yes, I think 844 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: it's ninety. But he leaves. He tackled, Okay, yes he 845 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: did in space. He was really good. Hooker turned the 846 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: wrong way on the outwall ball. Hooker's reading it and 847 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: he's they're gonna get a crosser and he turns and 848 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: then he turns back the other way, which slowed him down. 849 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: But perfect ball. I mean, seriously, it was a great 850 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: throw to make to play. On the Cooper Cup one, 851 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: they're playing what they call man freeze so that everybody's 852 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: underneath has got it. And again, yeah, all of a sudden, 853 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: now you've got guys that are getting blocked because you 854 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: got all these guys running routes. They're playing man coverage 855 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: free safety again, really no help with attack. And let's 856 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: also be clear too. One of the hardest things to 857 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: do as a cornerback in the NFL carry it across 858 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: the crosser from from a receiver that can really run. Yeah, 859 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: like Cooper Cup running across the middle and you're in 860 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: man coverage. That is a hard hard thing to do. 861 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: So so they give up the touchdown Cooper Cup nine 862 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: thirty three to go in the second quarter, don't score 863 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: another point the rest of the day. They get inside 864 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboys fifty in Cowboys field position, you know, on 865 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: their side of the fifty four times, and never score 866 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 1: that That isn't another bad hunger. Well, we're gonna we're 867 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that because I want to talk about 868 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: all the special teams because yesterday there were lots of 869 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: special teams issues. So we're gonna talk about that tomorrow. 870 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: I think that's a much bigger careful they blocked a 871 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: punt they did. That's also where you want to put 872 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: it in context. But but there are some bad little 873 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: things that you saw yesterday that could be like that'll 874 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: be the question for you, guys, is how concerned are 875 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: you with those things you saw. I'll say this though, too, 876 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know the other guys around the league all that. 877 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't know everyone's gun or depth chart, but I 878 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: guarantee there's not two better ones on the team than 879 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys. We're gonna we're gonna talk about the 880 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: way that they lined those guys up yesterday too. Man, 881 00:43:53,600 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm about ready to imbout, ready to place one of them. CJ. Why, Man, 882 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't think the guy's got the awareness. He went 883 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: right by that guy on that point. Well, I don't 884 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: think he's thinking that my that my Pro Bowl punter 885 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: is gonna shank at twenty two yards. I don't think 886 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: you didn't think the ball was gonna be where it was. 887 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: He told anybody. He told me that the guy before 888 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: the play before set him up because even before the 889 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: guy faked it out like it was coming up and 890 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: the ball rolled into the end zone. So he was 891 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: thinking that was what was happening. But Joseph, don't think 892 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: is gonna throw plenty like that, Like that was Kelvin 893 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: Joseph doing a nice shot for you, though. He really 894 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: is all right, we're gonna we're gonna end the show 895 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: on that, but tomorrow we are gonna pick that up. 896 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: I have a lots of questions for you guys on 897 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: this special teams. We'll be back tomorrow. Until then for 898 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: Nick even Brian brought us and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Heelton. 899 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 900 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 1: Com dio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 901 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,959 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.