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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting

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Speaker 5: All Right, lady, today we have a very special guest

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Speaker 5: in Cultivating her Space. Okay, she's beautiful, she's talented, she's athletic,

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Speaker 5: little jealous because well, her husband is Damson Idris. Okay,

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Speaker 5: so you got to check that out. Joy Taylor is

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Speaker 5: Hailing from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, one of the best sports towns

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you. That was such a nice show. Thank

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Speaker 4: Is rooted in deep racism. That's a fact. That is

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Speaker 3: That is inevitable, whether people like it or have some moral,

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Speaker 3: there's the whole conversation about, oh, the Olympic Committee rules

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Speaker 4: But now we can as a group acknowledge several things.

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Speaker 3: So let's one, that's something that we should all learn

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Speaker 5: So, Joy, this is a topic that you're not passionate

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Speaker 5: And I want to know you know today you strike

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Speaker 3: and you don't know anything about them, and you're walking

441
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Speaker 3: in there, you should be nervous. You're you're probably not

442
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Speaker 3: going to come off very well. So being prepared is

443
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Speaker 3: just a value in life that you should put a

444
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Speaker 3: lot of value in that in life, being prepared because

445
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Speaker 3: it will pay off and the work that you do

446
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: before will keep you from having to do more work

447
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Speaker 3: in the moment.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.

449
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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, I was sitting over here like yes, the

450
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Speaker 1: job interview example, I was like, I hope my students here.

451
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Speaker 4: And I've been in that situation before.

452
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Speaker 3: I've been in a situation where I've been like meeting

453
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Speaker 3: with people that I didn't really know who I was

454
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Speaker 3: talking to, and I mean luckily it worked out, but

455
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Speaker 3: it was a very good lesson for me that like, listen,

456
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Speaker 3: if you're going into meet with someone, you should know

457
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Speaker 3: where they're from, you should know their name, you should

458
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Speaker 3: know what you're meeting with them about, because you don't

459
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Speaker 3: want to be in that situation, in that job interview,

460
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Speaker 3: in that meeting, on that show, in that moment, unprepared

461
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Speaker 3: and scrambling like that's it's the same thing as studying.

462
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Speaker 4: Like we've always been all.

463
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Speaker 3: Crammed for tests, right, Yeah, and professors tell you, like study,

464
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Speaker 3: take some time, study it because you're cramming it. Then

465
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Speaker 3: you come in and you're nervous because you don't really

466
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Speaker 3: know it. You've just crammed it. You haven't committed it

467
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Speaker 3: to a memory, you haven't studied it, you haven't researched it,

468
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Speaker 3: You've just.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think I'm good.

470
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Speaker 3: I did an hour of studying last night for you

471
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Speaker 3: know this midterm that's three hours long. Like, yes, you're

472
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Speaker 3: probably not going to do well unless you're a genius.

473
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Speaker 3: And even geniuses can only rely on that for so for.

474
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Speaker 4: So long, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: I love it and so well, I'm assuming then that

476
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: a lot of preparation goals into your podcast. Maybe I'm crazy.

477
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us what inspired you to create this podcast?

478
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Speaker 3: Well, when I came to FS one, I was leaving Miami,

479
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Speaker 3: where I did a four hour morning drive radio sports

480
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Speaker 3: talk show.

481
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Speaker 4: And I came to FS one.

482
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Speaker 3: We hadn't launched a show yet, so I was here

483
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Speaker 3: in LA I was like obviously being paid, but I

484
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Speaker 3: wasn't actually working on a show yet because it was

485
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Speaker 3: still developing.

486
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Speaker 4: And then Skip came and they launched.

487
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Speaker 3: Undisputed, so they wanted me to be the moderator of

488
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Speaker 3: the show, which was a great opportunity opportunity for me

489
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Speaker 3: to work with Skip and Shannon and launched this new

490
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Speaker 3: show on the network. But I knew it would be

491
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Speaker 3: limited space for me to express my opinion and to

492
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Speaker 3: talk and that's what I moved across the country and

493
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Speaker 3: joined the network to do.

494
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Speaker 4: And that's what I was leaving in Miami.

495
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Speaker 3: So I needed to create a platform where I could

496
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Speaker 3: still get my opinion, where I could still talk about

497
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Speaker 3: topics that we wouldn't necessarily talk about on Undisputed, but

498
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Speaker 3: were valuable to me and to the culture, and I

499
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Speaker 3: wanted to have that.

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Speaker 4: Space to do that. So that's really why we made

501
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Speaker 4: the podcast super Dope.

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Speaker 5: I love that too, because I think sometimes in life

503
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Speaker 5: we think that we're just waiting for an opportunity for

504
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 5: like to come to us, and you're like, oh, Okay,

505
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Speaker 5: I had this great opportunity here, but I really want

506
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Speaker 5: to showcase my voice and my opinion, so I'm going

507
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Speaker 5: to create something versus complaining.

508
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Speaker 2: So I think that's amazing. I do want to shout

509
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Speaker 2: out joy that.

510
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Speaker 5: You know, we both went to Pennsylvania State School, so

511
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Speaker 5: I just got to call out I up and.

512
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Speaker 2: Goods Town because I'm a Goodstown girl. Oh yeah, up girls,

513
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Speaker 2: So I had to call that out.

514
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Speaker 5: And I was not a college athlete however, and I

515
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Speaker 5: know you were recruited for tracks. I want to know

516
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Speaker 5: what are some of the most exciting parts about the name,

517
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Speaker 5: image and likeness error, and what are your overall thoughts

518
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Speaker 5: on that.

519
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Speaker 4: In general, I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: I think it's actually a wonderful compromise to the idea

521
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Speaker 3: of paying college athletes, which logistically, while I support everyone

522
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Speaker 3: making money, logistically there's not a sustainable platform to do that.

523
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Speaker 3: Which that would, you know, be equal for men and women,

524
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Speaker 3: It would be equal for different sports because most of

525
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Speaker 3: these college athletic programs are supported through the revenue made

526
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Speaker 3: from football teams. There are a few schools where the

527
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Speaker 3: basketball team will bring in more than the football team,

528
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Speaker 3: but in general, overwhelmingly it's the football teams and bigger

529
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Speaker 3: sports that bring in the most revenue for these athletic programs.

530
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Speaker 4: So it could get very weird.

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Speaker 3: In how you're going to who makes How much do

532
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Speaker 3: you pay the lacrosse team, how much do you play

533
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Speaker 3: the swimm team? How much do you play the women's basketball team?

534
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Speaker 3: How much do you pay the football team. It's like, okay,

535
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Speaker 3: Like there's a reason that amateur sports exists, and I'm

536
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Speaker 3: okay with that. However, I always had a major issue

537
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Speaker 3: with the idea that athletes wouldn't be able to make

538
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Speaker 3: money off of their own name.

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Speaker 4: And this goes back decades and decades.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why can't a star quarterback go to a

541
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Speaker 3: sports memorabilia shop and do an hour signing autographs?

542
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Speaker 4: How does that hurt you? What is who's losing there? Nobody?

543
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Speaker 3: The kid is making money those sports Mabelia people are

544
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Speaker 3: making money. That's a capitalist exchange. Like everyone's always talking

545
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: about communism, capitalism, that's capitalism. Like being able to make

546
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: money off of yourself. That's what America is. And for

547
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,239
Speaker 3: that matter, if you're not an athlete, you can do that.

548
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: So if you're there on a music scholarship, you can

549
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: still go make money. If you're there on academic scholarship, you.

550
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Speaker 4: Can still go make money.

551
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Speaker 3: Athletes are the only students who are not allowed to

552
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Speaker 3: make money while they're at school. Meanwhile, they're the ones

553
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Speaker 3: bringing in all the money to the school, So not

554
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Speaker 3: all the money, but you know a majority of the

555
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: money for these huge facilities and branding and getting students

556
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Speaker 3: to come because they want to enjoy, you know, watching

557
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: LSU play football or watching Florida play football. But they

558
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: are the only ones, the athletes, who can't make money.

559
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Speaker 3: So I think it's I think it's well overdue. I

560
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: do think though social media was the catalyst for this change,

561
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Speaker 3: because you're seeing athletes and everyone really have the ability

562
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Speaker 3: to make money off of their social media and the

563
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: influencer marketing space has taken over the advertising world, and

564
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Speaker 3: how are you going to tell some volleyball players she.

565
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Speaker 4: Can't make money from fashion Nova. Okay, how are you

566
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Speaker 4: going to do that? You know?

567
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Speaker 3: And and why would you put her in a situation

568
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Speaker 3: where she'd have to choose between her athletic career and

569
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Speaker 3: making money while she's in college from this company.

570
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Speaker 4: Why why would they have to choose?

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Speaker 3: So I think that the Internet kind of sped this up,

572
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Speaker 3: and you know, society sort of met the NCAA like

573
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Speaker 3: face to face, like Okay, you guys are actually not

574
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: even making sense anymore, like this is this no longer

575
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Speaker 3: makes sense? Nothing that ever did, but now especially this

576
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: no longer makes sense. So I think it's great. I

577
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Speaker 3: think it's great for the student athletes. I think it's

578
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Speaker 3: great for the programs. I think it's great for everyone

579
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Speaker 3: in college sports because now as what it removes the well,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't remove, but it definitely lessens the influence that

581
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Speaker 3: bigger schools have because there's always been cheating going on.

582
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Speaker 3: We all know that, it's just what are you gonna do?

583
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: Like how do you enforce it? And then it becomes

584
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Speaker 3: even sketchier because you got to go through all these

585
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Speaker 3: different channels to get these kids money. Now it's like, look,

586
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Speaker 3: just bam, and if I go to this school, I

587
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: have this company, this plumbing company that wants to, you know,

588
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Speaker 3: give this kid ten thousand dollars to wear their shirts.

589
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Speaker 4: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be at a big school. It

592
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Speaker 3: doesn't have to be at a power five conference school.

593
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Speaker 3: So I think it opens the doors up for everybody.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense, which is really at the end of

595
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Speaker 3: the day, just make it make sense. I mean that's

596
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Speaker 3: like I just Smike Mantra in the morning.

597
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Speaker 4: Just make it make sense.

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Speaker 3: And so it does make sense, and I think the

599
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Speaker 3: panic around it.

600
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Speaker 4: Is really unnecessary.

601
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Speaker 3: Anytime there's a big major change in anything in society,

602
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: half the people are going to freak out, and then

603
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: over time, ninety eight percent of them are going to

604
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: come to the other side, and they'll still be two

605
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Speaker 3: people who are grumpy about it for the rest of

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Speaker 3: their lives.

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Speaker 4: And what are you going to do about it? Like

608
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: this is just the world. Change is inevitable. It's the

609
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: right thing. And I also think that it gives.

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Speaker 3: Student athletes the opportunity to start managing money and income

611
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Speaker 3: and their finances and building towards their future at a

612
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: younger age. So their financial literacy levels will go up

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Speaker 3: as well. You'll start learning about the stock market earlier,

614
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: You'll start learning about investments earlier, you will start learning

615
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Speaker 3: about buying property in real estate earlier, financial management earlier.

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Speaker 3: And I think in the long term that will lead

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Speaker 3: to a more balanced society and better financial literacy for everyone.

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Speaker 2: And it's such a good point. Make it makes sense

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Speaker 2: and let these students get their coin.

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Speaker 5: Go yes, okay, So Joe, we're bringing the interview to

621
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Speaker 5: a close, but before we do that, we want to

622
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Speaker 5: shift up the energy of this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

624
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Speaker 5: So we recognize and appreciate the multifaceted woman, and we

625
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 5: celebrate her, and we believe that it's okay to be

626
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: classy and it's okay to be ratchet. You can still

627
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: be elegant and dance to strip club music. Okay, So Joy,

628
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: get ready to get ready. We want to invite you

629
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Speaker 5: to the oh you clatch it segment? So do you

630
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Speaker 5: take on the challenge?

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00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: I do, Let's do it?

632
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: Yes, no hesitation, okay, I love it. Okay, now that

633
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: you agree, we just want to tell you really quickly

634
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: what to expect.

635
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

636
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 5: So we're going to ask you three questions or maybe

637
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: more depending on how you answer. We're going to have

638
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: you finish three sentences, and then we're going to show

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00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 5: you a photo that you have not seen or that

640
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 5: you're not ready for from your Instagram, and I'm going

641
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Speaker 5: to ask.

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Speaker 2: You some questions about it. Okay, all right, Donnie want

643
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: to take it over?

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00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 4: Yes, all right.

645
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Speaker 1: So first question, what's the best piece of wisdom or

646
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: advice you've ever received? Oh?

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Speaker 4: I love this question. So after college, kind of similar

648
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: to how a lot of students today are.

649
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: Dealing with the effects of COVID coming out of college

650
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: looking for jobs. I ran into a similar situation in

651
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: the business where there was a big hiring freeze when

652
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: I graduated from college. So I had all my eggs

653
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: in one basket for this job. I didn't get it.

654
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Speaker 3: It kind of set me into the spiral. I was

655
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Speaker 3: like in and out of the business for like a

656
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Speaker 3: year and a half, and I was in a really

657
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Speaker 3: bad situation. Was sleeping in my friend's couch.

658
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Speaker 4: I didn't have a job. It was like all bad,

659
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Speaker 4: and I was.

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Speaker 3: Talking to a friend of mine who's extremely successful, and

661
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Speaker 3: I'm complaining to him about it, and like going on

662
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Speaker 3: and on and he kind of sought me and asked

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Speaker 3: me a question that really changed my life. He said, how,

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Speaker 3: what is it something that you want for yourself in

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Speaker 3: the next three years. It can be a job, it

666
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: can be a car, a house, a man like whatever.

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Speaker 4: What is it something that you want for yourself? Like,

668
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: what's a goal of yours in the next three years?

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Speaker 3: And it's a very specific timeframe too, And I said,

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Speaker 3: I want to be full time on air, radio or

671
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: TV in the next three years' great, how much of

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Speaker 3: your energy are you putting towards making that happen? And

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Speaker 3: I thought about the question, and I thought about the

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Speaker 3: word he used, and I said, maybe ten percent.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't have a job, so I can't

676
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Speaker 4: pay any of my bills, i don't have a place

677
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: to live. I'm sleeping my friend's couch. Like everyone's mad

678
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: at me right now.

679
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Speaker 3: I'm in a really bad headspace, like I don't know

680
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Speaker 3: what I'm going to do with my career.

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Speaker 4: So no, not a lot of energy. Maybe ten percent.

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Speaker 3: And he said, okay, So why are you surprised that

683
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Speaker 3: it's not happening for you?

684
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Speaker 4: And maybe it was the moment that I was.

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Speaker 3: In, Maybe it was everything that had happened, or how

686
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: he said to me, or I was just you know,

687
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: the universe. That opens me up to taking advice, which

688
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 3: is a moment that I think we all have as adults.

689
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: You know, we think we know everything and then we

690
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: realize we don't. And it's so much easier to just

691
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 3: ask people that we trust who have been through it,

692
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Speaker 3: for advice and.

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Speaker 4: Actually take it.

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Speaker 3: And it really changed my perspective on everything in life.

695
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Speaker 4: If you want something, you you.

696
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Speaker 3: Have to put one hundred percent of your energy into it.

697
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Speaker 3: And energy is the word.

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Speaker 4: It's not just time, it's not just money, it's energy.

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00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: Everything that you do has to be directed towards this goal,

700
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Speaker 3: and sports are a great example of that. If you

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Speaker 3: want to be a champion, there's some stuff you have

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00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: to do. There are things you have to sacrifice. You

703
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: can't go out every night, you can't hang out with

704
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: certain people. You got to be in the gym early.

705
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: You can't get that extra sleep, you can't eat that sandwich,

706
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: you got to eat this salad. There's things you have

707
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: to do. You have to put your energy into that goal.

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00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: And from that point forward, I just got on the

709
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: right track and anything that I want to do or

710
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Speaker 3: anything I want to accomplish. I put one hundred percent

711
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: of my energy into and I can't stress enough how

712
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: much that matters if you really want to be successful.

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Speaker 5: That is a beautiful piece of wisdom. I love it

714
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Speaker 5: and I think it's going to inspire many people that

715
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Speaker 5: are listening. Now, I have four words for you, twerk

716
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Speaker 5: or two step?

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Speaker 2: What you doing, Julie.

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Speaker 3: You know I'm not the best dancer, so I would

719
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: so I would say it's work because you don't really

720
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: have you know you can, you can have your own

721
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Speaker 3: version of working.

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Speaker 5: We struggle with the rhythm too, so it's okay, struggle

723
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Speaker 5: with the rhythm.

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Speaker 4: I'm not the best answer. I was.

725
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: I was never in dance growing up, but I did

726
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: not have natural rhythm. So I'm the I'm the drunk

727
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: auntie at the party. Anyways, nobody paying attention to me.

728
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: We sound like we could hang.

729
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

730
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Speaker 1: Yes, So the next question, now, Joey, we've heard that

731
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Speaker 1: you may or may not be the queen of petty.

732
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Speaker 1: What's the pettiest thing that you've done to teach someone

733
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Speaker 1: a lesson?

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00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: Oh? I have to think about that. I don't know.

735
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: I have to really think about it. I'm just a

736
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: pretty generally a petty person. I don't like to hold

737
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: grudges like I don't.

738
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: I'm a Capricorn. So when I'm done with something, I'm

739
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: done with it. This is I'm sorry.

740
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: I've exhausted all of my efforts, so I can't go back.

741
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: But I I definitely am like a blocker and a

742
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: muter and like I will just remove you from my

743
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: entire life and never Yeah, just poof begone.

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00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: I was just thinking poof begone.

745
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: I'm a big beyond person, so.

746
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Speaker 3: I don't know that I can think of like a

747
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: specific story. But yeah, I got that.

748
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: Nickname on Undisputed.

749
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: Actually Shannon gave that to me because Skip and I

750
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: would always talk about Lebron and I was salty that

751
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: Lebron left the heat, but I got over it.

752
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's where that's where that came from.

753
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: I love that. I love it.

754
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 5: Okay, so now we have the sentence completions for you?

755
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 5: How would you finish the sentence? One question or topic

756
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 5: I wish people ask me about more often is.

757
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: Just my opinion, Like I think people ask specific questions

758
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: to women all the time, and then they'll ask like

759
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Speaker 3: I'll notice I'll ask a guy this like, oh, like

760
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: what do you think about you know, this topic? But

761
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: then they'll ask me like, oh, so, like you know, how'd.

762
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: You get into business? So I wish they would.

763
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: I wish people would ask me about what it is

764
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: I think rather than how did I get here? More often,

765
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: like when I like sometimes and obviously like I love

766
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: talking about the journey and all that, But when I

767
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: I'll do like specific sports shows and they're like, oh,

768
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: like we want to talk about like your your experiences

769
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: in the sports world.

770
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: Like you wouldn't ask Colin to do that.

771
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: You would want to know what he thought about, you know,

772
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 3: the topics that are going on in sports today.

773
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Speaker 4: So I wish people would ask my opinion more.

774
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Speaker 1: All right, if your interview and enjoy yes, yes, And

775
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: if there's any opinions that you haven't expressed with us

776
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: today that you want to share, come right on. We

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00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: are ready, We are listening.

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00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: We are captive audience say we support some own biles.

779
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 4: We support you. You are the goat.

780
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: No amounts of stress or mental health issues or any

781
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: of that changes what you've accomplished. We still love you

782
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: and we're still supporting you through the rest of the

783
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: Olympics and beyond.

784
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: Nothing's changed.

785
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, period.

786
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: All right, the most embarrassing thing you've ever done to

787
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: get a CRUSH's attention.

788
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: Is maybe like go through and like periodically like their

789
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 3: pictures on Instagram.

790
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: And years ago.

791
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 4: Not no, not that far.

792
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: Okay, we're still looking, but we're just we're scrolling a

793
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: little softer so we don't double tap. Yeah, I'm sure

794
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: I've done something more embarrassing, but yeah, I mean it's

795
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: so it's so much honestly easier, but like you can

796
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: be so much more strategic about getting a crushious attention

797
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: now because of social media. But yeah, that's just that's

798
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: pretty embarrassing to like, like I'm gonna like this, like

799
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 3: comment some weird thing, and then like I'll like send

800
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: them a meme like I like, maybe I'll I think

801
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: I'm funny.

802
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: That's cute, that's cute.

803
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: Support I think so I'm also cheesy, So don't think much.

804
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: Well, I'm there, I'm best all this. I'm the wrong

805
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: person I ask.

806
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: And now our last sentence completion for you is what

807
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 5: do you love most about yourself? Or what I love

808
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: most about myself?

809
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: Is what I love most about myself is.

810
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: I have really learned how to forgive myself, which is

811
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: something that I struggled with for a long time. I'd

812
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: be really hard on myself for mistakes and not like

813
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: take the time to process it and allow other people

814
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: to take advantage of me being in a vulnerable space

815
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Speaker 3: because I haven't forgiven myself.

816
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: So I think at this point in.

817
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Speaker 3: My life being the woman that I am. You know,

818
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: we all struggle with confidence. We all struggle with, you know,

819
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: being hard on ourselves, hating our bodies, making decisions and

820
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Speaker 3: then feeling bad about them, especially when it comes to

821
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: you know, dating and things like that. And I really

822
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: struggle with that for a long time because I have

823
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: high expectations of myself. But I also you know, you

824
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: get into moments where you're emotional, or you've made decisions

825
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: and you trust people and they betray you or all.

826
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Speaker 4: These things happen, and we tend to be really like

827
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: what did we do? What's what did I do?

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Speaker 3: And I do think that that accountability and self awareness

829
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: are very important. Nothing is, you know, as that simple.

830
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: There's always some nuance. I could have done this better,

831
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: I could be better here. I need to be better

832
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: at communicating. I need to be more you know, transparent

833
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: or less transparent. You know, I do think that you

834
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: should always be evolving. But I really struggled with being

835
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: really hard on myself for decisions for a long time.

836
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: And I love that now I can, you know, talk

837
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Speaker 3: to my therapist about it. I can look at why

838
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: I made that decision. I can evaluate, you know, how

839
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 3: I can either stop doing that moving forward, or why

840
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: is it that I did that and what do I

841
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: need to heal so that I don't do that moving forward?

842
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: Or you know it just accepted for the experience and

843
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: learn from it.

844
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Speaker 4: And now it's just a memory and.

845
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: A story that you have, and it's part of your

846
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: the fabric of your you know, your journey.

847
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Speaker 4: So I love that I have.

848
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Speaker 3: I've learned and developed that skill to be able to

849
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Speaker 3: make decisions and feel confident about it. It is a mistake,

850
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: learn from it, and just never stop trying to heal

851
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: yourself and never stop trying to grow and understanding that

852
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: change is an inevitable part of life. So how you

853
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: adapt to change, how you embrace change, how you embrace

854
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: change on your body as a woman, your mentality as

855
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: a woman, you know, decisions you made in college.

856
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: You might not be making now why did you make them?

857
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: Then it's okay.

858
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: And you don't have to hold yourself to anyone else's

859
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: standards or anyone else's expectations, or anyone else's idea of you.

860
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: Other people's idea of you is not your responsibility. So

861
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you're the one who

862
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: looks yourself in the mirror, You're the one that talks

863
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: to God. You're the one that has to live with

864
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: your decisions and who you are are, And you don't.

865
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: Actually have to explain yourself to anyone.

866
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Speaker 3: And I think that's a that's a lifelong journey that

867
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: everyone goes through, but I think particularly with women, with

868
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Speaker 3: the pressures that we have, you know, physically, emotionally, societal pressures,

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00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 3: expectations of what we're supposed to look like and think

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Speaker 3: like and talk like and be like and date like

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Speaker 3: and just let it all go.

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Speaker 4: None of it matters.

873
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, what do you think

874
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: about yourself and what do the people that love you

875
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: feel about you and where you are and your journey

876
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: and how you're treating them.

877
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: It's the most important.

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Speaker 1: That's so beautiful. I love all of it. Like lady,

879
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: you might have to press pause and rewind and listen

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Speaker 1: to responds one more time twice to make sure you

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Speaker 1: soak it all up.

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Speaker 5: So George is preaching it, preach Tuesday or Friday wherever

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Speaker 5: whenever we air.

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Speaker 4: This is a beautiful sisterhood. You know each other?

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Speaker 5: Yes, okay? So speaking of sisterhood? Are last sort of

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Speaker 5: activity for you is we want to share a picture.

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Speaker 5: And I was trying to which hose three. I'm trying

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Speaker 5: to bait which one we're gonna show you? But how

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Speaker 5: about you just pick a number and then we'll just

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Speaker 5: go to whatever one?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, number two? The number two?

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Speaker 5: This photo tell us about And if you're tuning in,

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Speaker 5: you gotta go to Patron to get the videos.

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Speaker 2: You can see Joy talk about this photo.

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Speaker 5: Joy tell us what's something we wouldn't know about this

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Speaker 5: photo just by looking at it?

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Speaker 3: So this is from He Got Game the movie to

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Speaker 3: Senzel's character from He Got Game. And I love Halloween.

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Speaker 3: Halloween is my favorite holiday. So I always go all

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Speaker 3: in on my podcast.

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Speaker 4: As you can see. For some reason, I've always dressed

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Speaker 4: as a man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was a Pacino's character from a given Sunday the

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Speaker 3: year before and then the year before that, I was

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Speaker 3: Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm. Oh so I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I always dress like a guy, but yeah, so I

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Speaker 3: am Jake Shuttle's Worth from He Got Game Here, and

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Speaker 3: so I always do that character. I always do like

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Speaker 3: a funny character and then I'll do like the sexy.

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Speaker 4: One when I go out. So so yeah, so this

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Speaker 4: is what it was.

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Speaker 3: This is a podcast and I actually I did the

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Speaker 3: interview on this day with LeVar Arrington, who I was

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Speaker 3: filling in with on Speak for Yourself Today, and he

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Speaker 3: had no idea what was going on, and he just

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Speaker 3: came into the podcast and was like, what is happening there?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what it is. So I love Halloween.

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Speaker 3: It's my favorite holiday. And I always always try to

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Speaker 3: go all in and get a good funny sports character

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Speaker 3: or like television character for the podcast is relevant.

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Speaker 4: And then I'll do it. I'll do a sexy costume.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we love it and we look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: who you will be this Halloween.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Joy, we want to thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your time, energy and expertise and all the amazing gems

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Speaker 1: that you shared with us today. Where can people find

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Speaker 1: you on social media?

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Speaker 4: You can follow me on Joy's at Joy Taylor talks

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Speaker 4: on Instagram and Twitter.

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Speaker 3: I don't really use Snapchat, but I'm on there if

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Speaker 3: you want to follow, and TikTok, which I will one

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Speaker 3: day figure out how to use propperly. And then you

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Speaker 3: can watch the show The Herd weekdays noon to three

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Speaker 3: on FS One.

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Speaker 4: We are retooling the podcast, so we'll have.

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Speaker 3: A relaunch soon for that and then when football season starts,

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of things going on, so you

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Speaker 3: can always check out my website or again follow me

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Speaker 3: on social media for things to look out for.

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Speaker 2: Yay, we love it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Joy, And we just want to

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Speaker 5: tell you that we have an audience of black women

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Speaker 5: across the globe and we hope that you kind of

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Speaker 5: get our vibe of how we do the podcast, what

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Speaker 5: our mission is, and so we'd love to know, based

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Speaker 5: on your experience today, who would you recommend us interview

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Speaker 5: next and would you be open to making introduction someone

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Speaker 5: that you're like, you know what they will be perfect

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Speaker 5: for this show.

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Speaker 3: Well, my best friend mj Acosta, we went to college together.

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Speaker 3: She lives in Los Angeles now. She is the first

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Speaker 3: Afro Latino woman to host a show at NFL Network,

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Speaker 3: and she is also currently covering the Olympics right now

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Speaker 3: for NBC so on her turf. She's hosting that for

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Speaker 3: NBC along with her show NFL Total Access on NFL Network.

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Speaker 3: And she is an amazing story and an amazing woman.

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Speaker 3: And I would be happy to make the introduction.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: We love it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for having me. I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You're so welcome.

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Speaker 1: Joy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Hey lady, It's Terry here from the Cultivating her Space podcast.

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Speaker 6: I'm hosting a free podcasting masterclass where I'm going to

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Speaker 6: see you there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us today. Please note that our show

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Speaker 1: may contain conversations about self help, advice, self empowerment, and

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Speaker 1: mental health, but is by no means meant to be

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Speaker 1: a substitute for an ongoing formal relationship with a trained

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Speaker 1: mental health provider. If you are someone you know is

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Speaker 1: in need of mental health care. Please visit a Therapy

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Speaker 1: for Black Girls directory Psychology today or contact your insurance provider.

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Speaker 5: If you liked what you heard and want to keep

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Speaker 5: the conversation going, visit our website, cultivatinghirspace dot com and

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Speaker 5: be sure to click the Patreon tab to get access

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Speaker 5: to video content, bonuses, and our weekly after show and

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Speaker 5: before we meet again, repeat after me. Greatness is my birthright,

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Speaker 5: so I no longer ask for permission,