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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, you're watching Breaking Point. I'm David Zier. You're

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Speaker 1: watching Real America's Voice News. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: A crazy week on the ground in Minnesota. I have

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Speaker 1: some great footage for you today. And then Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 1: after being hit by that car that Renee Good was driving.

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Speaker 1: So as usual, the facts slowly come out and it's

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Speaker 1: not the way it's being portrayed, probably, And I've got

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Speaker 1: great information for you today. So much going on out there.

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Speaker 1: I've got great guest reporters from the Washington Examiner, from

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Speaker 1: Ice for Ice and Department of Justice. But I want

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Speaker 1: to bring on our first guests a very special woman,

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Speaker 1: a member of the RAV Chat. The RAV audience been

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Speaker 1: interacting us for years with for years with Live from

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Speaker 1: Studio six B and Breaking Point, and we met her

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Speaker 1: for the first time at Amfest in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. I want to welcome Sarah O'Neill or azy. Sarah,

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Speaker 1: how are you, David?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: I really have kind of grown up in Maricopa with

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Speaker 3: the Rev family and it has meant the world to me.

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Speaker 1: So Okay, it's I don't want to say it's a

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Speaker 1: Cinderella story, but it's really shows that anyone can get

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Speaker 1: involved and put themselves out there, and if you care

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Speaker 1: enough about the issue, it turns into a calling. Right

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Speaker 1: Like I've been in business in New York getting punished

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Speaker 1: Then I went to the Soviet Union and saw other

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Speaker 1: people lived and were treated when it was still communist

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Speaker 1: in the eighties. And you know, we all have our

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Speaker 1: own experiences. And you've been active with the RAF chat.

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Speaker 1: You've been stallwart. You brought us the best cookies at

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Speaker 1: Amfest in December of twenty three. That crew was very

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Speaker 1: appreciative of it, and you couldn't have been nicer, but

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Speaker 1: you took it to another level. Tell us your story, Sarah, Yes.

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Speaker 3: You know I connected with Rav just soon after the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty debacle. I was so appreciative that Real America's

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Speaker 3: Voice was airing all the hearings from all the swing

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Speaker 3: you guys were going to keep me well well informed.

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Speaker 3: And that's how I got involved with the chats and

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Speaker 3: the RAV. It was the only station I watched, and

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Speaker 3: it still is the only station I watch, and it's

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Speaker 3: it's on my television at least twelve hours a day.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it doesn't get any more grassroots from than that.

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Speaker 1: So you decided to run, tell us what you ran for?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 3: I did well, you know, on Rural America's Voice. I

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Speaker 3: did see Dan Schultz precinct strategy, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: what does that mean, investigated that and then got connected

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Speaker 3: to become a PC through a Turning Point representative that

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Speaker 3: the Legislative District four is one of the largest in

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Speaker 3: Largest, or maybe third, but it's a very large, very

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Speaker 1: So I don't think people understand the size and scope

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Speaker 1: So the migration of Americans to what was a red

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Speaker 3: David Schweiker is our current sitting congressman, and he chose

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Speaker 3: The favorite seems to be Joseph Chaplick, who's been at

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Speaker 1: So you're going to have a primary. You have eleven

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Speaker 1: Okay, another hot race in the sixth district. I don't

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Speaker 2: A sense of unified.

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Speaker 3: Priorities and action plan and get going and get behind

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Speaker 1: What was the spark that made you decide to run

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you you probably know by all of the

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Speaker 2: For coming here and getting involved.

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Speaker 1: All right, so I have a homework assignment for you.

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Speaker 1: We need you to get Billy Howell, Caffrey, Largo, flash

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Speaker 1: of saurus. We're all. We have recruiting them all to

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Speaker 3: What I say is, whatever your passion, there's there's some

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Speaker 2: Let's save this nation. That's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, tell us these members at lodge in your

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Speaker 1: tell us about what their responsibilities would be and what

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Speaker 3: Yes, as I was saying, we would be supporting the

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Speaker 2: Tools and data. And we will we will.

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Speaker 3: Be empowering and making sure that the precink committeemen have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the tools go on, sir.

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Speaker 2: And what is most important?

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Speaker 1: Do you think you will be able to fix any

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, my first my first stint on Real

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Speaker 3: And the Shenanigans in twenty twenty two with the drawer three.

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Speaker 2: Be on the list. Proper first Yeah, the first and

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Speaker 1: Proper signature verification, don't run out of toner, right, yeah?

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Speaker 2: They did well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you David. Thank you to everyone at REV.

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Speaker 2: They make my life better.

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Speaker 1: All right, souper everybody. Asy Sarah underscore one. Sarah O'Neil

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.

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Speaker 1: Everything's going crazy out there across the country. These highly

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Speaker 1: organized protests are funded by a lot of different mechanisms,

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Speaker 1: Soaurus is just one of them. But Indivisible received a

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Speaker 1: money planned protests on the ground, and that's the lions Den, right,

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Speaker 1: An experience. I mean, I've covered a lot of protests

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Speaker 1: civil war. But I want to bring on Kaylindese, a

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Speaker 1: been happy New Year?

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on, David, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, You've been doing great work out there, and you

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Speaker 1: know you're you're following DOJ and what's going on. And

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Speaker 1: it's all relevant, right because there's lawsuits, there's litigation. You

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Speaker 1: probably can have federal judges come in and make decisions

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Speaker 1: escalate from there. Tell us about what's going on in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So what we're seeing right now on the legal

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Speaker 6: the DOJ involved in some of these matters is essentially

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Speaker 6: it started with this lawsuit that was filed in Minnesota

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Speaker 6: kind of before everything really started kicking off. It was

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Speaker 6: I think around December seventeenth, there was a protester who

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Speaker 6: had joined with a couple others to file a suit

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Speaker 6: to essentially block ICE's tactics. And what that means is

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Speaker 6: essentially they're trying to get them to stop having access

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Speaker 6: to things like certain pepper spray things that they can do,

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Speaker 6: you know, whenever they are threatened by protesters on the street,

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Speaker 6: trying to you know, prevent them from you know, essentially

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Speaker 6: engage in that they're trained to engage in. That lets

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Speaker 6: protesters know whenever they're blurring the lines of protesting to

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Speaker 6: actually impeding, obstructing, or possibly even assaulting agents. And that

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Speaker 6: was a hearing that was heard before a federal judge

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Speaker 6: in Minnesota this week. Biden appointed judge that is weighing

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Speaker 6: this decision of whether to impose a temporary restraining order

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Speaker 6: that these plaintiffs, based off of a First and Fourth

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Speaker 6: sort of remove ICE's tool belt, their their ability to.

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Speaker 5: Protect themselves and protect the public.

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Speaker 6: Uh and and and it's really almost kind of sinister,

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Speaker 6: I would argue in the way that they're doing this

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Speaker 5: It might put them in a.

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Speaker 6: Position where, uh, you know, a protester is getting too

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Speaker 6: then that could harm the officer involved in that, you know,

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Speaker 5: It's just really quite frankly, very dangerous.

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Speaker 6: And I think that, you know, more people need to

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Speaker 6: Minnesota and Illinois are getting involved in their own separate

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Speaker 6: litigation that is right, kind of trying to achieve similar means.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about the federal lawsuit that Minnesota took

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's kind of similar to the plaintiffs that

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Speaker 6: Jacob Fray was was telling people on live television about Ice,

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Speaker 6: it's it's the the legal version of that inflamed rhetoric

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Speaker 6: that's taking place, and essentially, like I said, getting trying

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Speaker 6: And so where we're at, honestly, is we're standing at

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Speaker 6: a bit of a more developed path in the separate

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Speaker 6: whether to impose a t RORO that would significantly curtail

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Speaker 6: some of these ICE tactics. And you know, I want

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Speaker 6: screen right away here, but there's a you know, a

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Speaker 6: ex user I would highly encourage following her thread that

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Speaker 6: she posted earlier today that was highlighting a sworn statement

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Speaker 5: Agents have had to endure. There's actual images.

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Speaker 6: Inside this this court document that shows pictures of agent's

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Speaker 6: and it's describing I want to point out, you know, agents.

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Speaker 6: It says agents here instructed the individuals standing in the

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Speaker 6: later identified as Ilin Wilson. Solar used a pressurized metal

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is just one.

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Speaker 6: Example of some of the tactics that are being engaged

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Speaker 6: starting to look more like militia members if you ask me,

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Speaker 6: based off of this evidence Coordinated.

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Speaker 1: I was in Powderhorn Park and there are twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: a present. This was like a gift wrap thing to them.

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Speaker 1: But the agents get injured and their lives are on

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Speaker 1: the line. So not only did this ice officer, Jonathan

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Speaker 6: I mean, I've spoken to so many different people across

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Speaker 6: you know, there's been a couple of you know, you

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Speaker 6: honestly to hear the thoughts about Stuart Kaplan, who spoke

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Speaker 6: But regardless of this situation, I think that there is

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Speaker 6: the state needs to be a party to this investigation

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Speaker 6: I want to say, it's fascinating to me that the

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Speaker 6: the public to participate in it and send the state

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Speaker 6: any evidence that they have, because the maneuvers that Keith

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Speaker 6: perhaps a state indictment against a federal officer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just just under you know.

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Speaker 6: The supremacy clause and under so many other statutes that

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Speaker 6: I think it would be very foolish for the state

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Speaker 6: to make it home safely at night. Yea, And I

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Speaker 6: because I think that he's definitely treading into some dangerous

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate explaining that to our audience. Thirty seconds

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that, you know, it's it's an interesting

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Speaker 6: So the point is is that if they, for instance,

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Speaker 5: All right, I knows what might happen, Caitlin.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate your insight. We'll have you back and

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Speaker 1: thanks for you hard work. Thank you, David. All Right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: when we come back. I got some footage forew on

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Speaker 1: the ground Powderhorn Park, Minneapolis, right with George Floyd and

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Speaker 1: Renee Good died. So I stay tuned, Buckle up, I'm

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Speaker 1: David Zo. You watch him. Breaking Point covered the downtown

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Speaker 1: And then you have got these women in these like

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Speaker 1: that were on the street out at night, they don't

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Speaker 1: know what America means. The Somali fraud runs really deep.

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Speaker 1: They're only about two percent one point seven percent I

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Speaker 1: think of the Mini Minnesota population. They're only about point

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Speaker 1: seven percent of the population nationwide. But the fraud might

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Speaker 1: be the largest amount of fraud ever committed in the

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Speaker 1: history of the United States. And like I was saying

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Speaker 1: last week, you know, maybe and Brightbought reported maybe seven

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Speaker 1: hundred million and one million dollar plus increments made its

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Speaker 1: way out of Minneapolis Airport. Now a lot of employees

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Speaker 1: are Somali over there, so they're an inside ring to

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Speaker 1: funnel money back to al Shabab, the terrorist group. That's

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Speaker 1: what Scott Besson's looking into. Some of the fastest growing

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Speaker 1: cities in that part of Africa and Somalia. Where are

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Speaker 1: they getting all the money? So I think this thing

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Speaker 1: is going to blow wide open. So Operation Deflect from

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Speaker 1: Somali Faruda is in full effect in Minnesota. But we

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Speaker 1: were on the ground, We were stalked on the ground,

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Speaker 1: a high tech network of wristles. You know, they have

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Speaker 1: these do it yourself whistle kits that they advertise on

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Speaker 1: Facebook protest pages like Minnesota Protests You can go. You know,

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Speaker 1: tells you all about how to be prepared to warn

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Speaker 1: ICE and know your rights when warning ice. But these

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Speaker 1: things are organized from the top town between the Council

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Speaker 1: for American Islamic Relations, Indivisible, Indivisible Twin Cities, the Immigrant

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Speaker 1: Defense Network, the Minneapolis School District totally in on it. It's

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Speaker 1: disgusting what your taxpayer money is going into Minnesota's second

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Speaker 1: highest income tax in the US. That money going to

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Speaker 1: the school dishay, and they're teaching your kids to hate

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Speaker 1: America in first grade and telling them they don't need

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Speaker 1: to go to school, and that ICE agents are going

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Speaker 1: to come into school and round them up and tear

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Speaker 1: gas them and tie them up. And it's old bull.

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Speaker 1: It's old bull. And they didn't question Obama when he

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Speaker 1: was the president, and they didn't have a press secretary

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Speaker 1: Josh Ernest with ninety thousand kids separated from their parents,

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Speaker 1: I believe under them well, when they were in the

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Speaker 1: street with ice. Tom Holman was part of the I

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Speaker 1: think working in homeland security back in twenty twelve, twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen during Obama, they were doing the same thing. Nobody

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Speaker 1: questioned it. CNN went on a ride along with them,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, Oh, look at a good job

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Speaker 1: they're doing. Now they're doing the same thing, just they

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Speaker 1: scaled the operation right. So now it's bad because Trump's

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Speaker 1: doing it. But you know, us talking to Brian Glenn

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Speaker 1: on the air a few days ago in the Early Show,

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Speaker 1: our chief White House correspondent, and we were talking about

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Speaker 1: how we both thought the White a should do a

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Speaker 1: better job in messaging who exactly they're arresting and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. And you know, later that day, Carolyn Levitt

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Speaker 1: addressed that in the Presso. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they were watching us or what, but I'm glad they

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Speaker 1: are really doubling down and hammering the point home that

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Speaker 1: these are not good people they're taking off the street,

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Speaker 1: and that these people have criminal warrants, and if the

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Speaker 1: police departments held them and the jails held them in

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Speaker 1: these blue cities, then they wouldn't be need to go

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Speaker 1: into residential neighborhoods to find these people because they'd be

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Speaker 1: in the jail and they should have been turned over

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Speaker 1: to ICE. But they're not being turned over to ICE

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Speaker 1: because they want to sew division and they want civil war.

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Speaker 1: This is what they want on the left, and they

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Speaker 1: want the eye to be taken off of the Somali

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Speaker 1: fraud in Minnesota especially. Let me tell you, let me

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Speaker 1: show you some clips here of us leaving Powderhorn Park

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Speaker 1: and how serious it got with our crew and our

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Speaker 1: security team. This is David Zea for Real America's Voice News,

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Speaker 1: where a Powderhorn Park get heading back to our car

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Speaker 1: after this massive protests twenty thirty thousand people. But they're

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Speaker 1: harassing us and following us now behind us here and

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Speaker 1: they're blowing their whistles because that's what they do. It's

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Speaker 1: like a weird cult, a zombie cult of Ice and Trump, Peters,

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Speaker 1: Devincy and for Real America's Voice names wearing the car

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Speaker 1: with Kevin posobic camera security. I guess we just got

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Speaker 1: chased out of powder Horned Park and by the tolerant left.

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Speaker 1: That's what's going on in this country. They're highly organized

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Speaker 1: and coordinated and they were all over us, blocking our

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Speaker 1: egress from the park, screaming at us, throwing ice chunks

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Speaker 1: at the window, almost broke our window here, and we

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Speaker 1: were boxed in, and uh, it's like escape from New York, right, guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these people are ugly there pulling the weapon. You know,

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Speaker 1: what do you do? These people are ready for revolution, guys.

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Speaker 1: This is a warning to the rest of America. People

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Speaker 1: already for revolution in our country. Here. They want civil war.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to engage in civil dialogue. I tried

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Speaker 1: to engage these people in the park for the last

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Speaker 1: two hours, and only one or two people really made

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Speaker 1: any sense at all. They're violent, their reticin, they're coordinated,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, that was a tense situation. But we do

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Speaker 1: have some fun on the road.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: The day before, we're in a restaurant. My cameraman Brandon,

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Speaker 1: I've been working with him for five years on the road.

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Speaker 1: I've been with the network seven years and next week

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Speaker 1: it'll be seven years breaking points on in two weeks,

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Speaker 1: and my time on the ground across many dozens of

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Speaker 1: states with Brandon has been phenomenal, a very talented camera guy.

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Speaker 1: And we were in the mix and we're in the

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Speaker 1: restaurant we had our logos on our jackets, Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 1: We're in there for five seconds and a lady came

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Speaker 1: over calling us fascists and Nazis. She looked like a

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Speaker 1: ring nosed, willed beast, and she's an angry mom, an

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Speaker 1: angry one mom, you know, calling us, cursing us out,

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Speaker 1: and came around the table, checked me a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and then walked around me and threw a whole drink

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Speaker 1: in my cameraman's face. Brand is a good sport about it.

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Speaker 1: So we had a little fun in the car the

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Speaker 1: next day. Check it out here. We're Brandon Jarvis in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: It's up, Brandon.

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Speaker 6: Hey, that's a good don't mind the security tag Target

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Speaker 6: for goot to take it off.

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Speaker 1: Last night it's a comedy hour here. You have any

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Speaker 1: drinks starting in your face? Today? Not today? Okay, well

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Speaker 1: today it will be a better day. But I have

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a coffee. Were on a way

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Speaker 1: to cover some protests. But I realized, and I'm drinking

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Speaker 1: this stuff like it's third punching out. My cough isn't

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Speaker 1: going away. It's day quilled kids. So I think we're

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Speaker 1: on our way to Target I'm gonna get the right one, right,

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Speaker 1: and you can get that security tag. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get that. Jackie, get the way the camera. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you guys on the road. Yeah, little comic relief there,

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Speaker 1: but it did get serious on the ground, and we're

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Speaker 1: just trying to bring them to America. You know, Ben

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Speaker 1: Berkwam warns me about Minneapolis, saying they were the worst

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Speaker 1: of the worst of all the places he's been. And

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Speaker 1: I've been in a lot of protests and I got

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Speaker 1: knocked around a little bit, but nobody's been in the

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Speaker 1: thick of it like Ben has. You know, they broke

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Speaker 1: his skull open years ago and you have to get

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Speaker 1: stitches similar to what they did to their own. And

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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't even know who they were hitting,

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Speaker 1: who was a Democrat gay journalist. But you know he's

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Speaker 1: on the other side right now because he knows how

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Speaker 1: crazy these people are here. But yeah, Ben Berkwam a

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Speaker 1: real warrior on the ground. But Minnesota protests, if you

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Speaker 1: go to the page on Facebook, you know they give

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Speaker 1: you your supplies for your DIY whistle kids, ziplock baggies, a

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Speaker 1: whistle whistle codes. You got to know the secession and

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Speaker 1: how you should blow the whistle, you know, like they

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Speaker 1: did for us, and it's like rav It's like invasion

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Speaker 1: of the body snatchers. They point that point you out

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Speaker 1: and everybody starts screaming at you. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: why they're screaming at you. They didn't even know where

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Speaker 1: we were from, you know. And then you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: because we didn't have logos on a jackets and a

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Speaker 1: few people knew and they radioed ahead that we were

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Speaker 1: real America's voice, but most people didn't, and they just

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Speaker 1: mob ral because they can't argue. Whenever I tried to

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Speaker 1: engage somebody in some dialogue, someone another, like their spokesmom,

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Speaker 1: would jump in and cut them off because they were

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Speaker 1: unveiling themselves as dumbasses and not really knowing why they're there.

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Speaker 1: And I understand people's concerns. They don't want ICE in

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Speaker 1: their neighborhoods, but they don't know the reasons why they're there.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if they law enforcement in Portland and

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Speaker 1: in Seattle and in Chicago and Minneapolis and New York

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Speaker 1: cooperated with ICE, this stuff wouldn't be happening the way

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Speaker 1: it is. And then they have these things, know your rights,

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Speaker 1: community resources, and they got this big protest coming on Monday.

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Speaker 1: They're going to try to merge every other issue in

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Speaker 1: with this issue, you know, BLM, you know. And they're

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Speaker 1: saying the ICE agents are racist. The ICE agents a

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Speaker 1: lot of them are black and Hispanic and women. There's

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Speaker 1: no racism going on. It's such a lie. Another lie.

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Speaker 1: But Renee Good worked for the Minnesota arm of Ice Watch,

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Speaker 1: a network of area residents documenting and in this case,

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Speaker 1: obstructing ICE operations. And take California's Rapid Response Network representing

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Speaker 1: at least twenty six anti ICE operations throughout the state.

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Speaker 1: Multiply this times fifty states. This thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 1: groups being funded, maybe up to record a billion dollars

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Speaker 1: in funding. And they don't care about the social service impact,

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Speaker 1: the free medical care to illegals, the impact on illegal

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Speaker 1: dollars are going because they're not working. They're all on

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Speaker 1: the dole. So it's crazy. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much. Yeah, I just got back an hour

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Speaker 1: Wow, tell us about it. Where were you?

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Speaker 7: I was in El Paso, Texas, and so Governor Gray

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Speaker 7: different picture than it was several years ago under the

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Speaker 7: Biden ad Ministry.

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Speaker 1: Sure. I was in Alpasso with Ben in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: and it was a crossroads with Sunland Park, New Mexico,

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Speaker 1: and they would send people through the open gate in

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Speaker 1: the wall that was built. They had to leave a

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Speaker 1: gate open because of court order, so they would send

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Speaker 1: people walking from the Rio Grande right through into America.

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Speaker 1: And babies died that weekend too. We were there and

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Speaker 1: drowning in the river. Nobody cares about the human costs

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Speaker 1: of all this, right, but at the top of the

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Speaker 1: hill where there were nine spider holes in the top

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Speaker 1: of the mountain and reconnoitering and doing reconnaissance on where

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Speaker 1: our blackhawks were, they were sending drugs and AK forty

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Speaker 1: seven's at the top of hills. It was a game

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Speaker 1: of cat and mouse, right, So it was bad, but

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Speaker 1: I know it got really bad on the Biden. So

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Speaker 1: what's it like now?

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Speaker 4: It is? It was silent. I mean, there's just nothing

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Speaker 4: to see.

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Speaker 7: And actually there's it's called Mount Cristo Ray and that

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Speaker 7: half of that side on one side has a wall

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Speaker 7: that was put up by we Build the Wall, Steve

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Speaker 7: Bannon's project. And now they're actually going to be continuing that.

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Speaker 7: The federal government's going to be building it across the

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Speaker 7: rest of the mountains finally.

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Speaker 4: To fill in the gaps. Officially, yes, and so.

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Speaker 7: And the other side where they're going to be building

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Speaker 7: where it's down in the valley Sunland Park New Mexico.

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Speaker 4: It is now considered a military ground.

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Speaker 7: So if you walk in there and you willegally enter

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Speaker 7: the country, border patrol might arrest you, but if not,

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Speaker 7: the military is there and will arrest you and charge

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Speaker 7: you as part of the enhanced measures that the Trump

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Speaker 7: administration has taken to figure out how to charge. Really,

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Speaker 7: everybody comes across the border with something, at least to

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Speaker 7: face some consequences.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember the other side of that mountain where

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Speaker 1: we build the wall, was the wall just ended and

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Speaker 1: they would walk right around it and they would dash

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Speaker 1: towards these little houses that were like five hundred feet

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Speaker 1: in two hundred feet in over the border, and once

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Speaker 1: they got in the house, we couldn't do anything about it.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, right now that's a military zone.

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Speaker 4: It's a military zone. It was dead quiet.

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Speaker 7: I was there two nights ago with my camera person

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Speaker 7: and we were just looking around and the person we

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Speaker 7: were with is from the federal government who wasn't supposed

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Speaker 7: to be giving us a tour, but he was there

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Speaker 7: giving us a tour. And he said, we don't get

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Speaker 7: calls here anymore. It's maybe a couple coming through every day.

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Speaker 7: But before it was hundreds and hundreds the people who

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Speaker 7: lived there were having their homes broken into. And he said,

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Speaker 7: all these gates, these big six foot fences you see

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Speaker 7: around these little shacks were because people kept breaking in.

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Speaker 7: There's a little in right there and a restaurant Italian

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Speaker 7: restaurant that he said are doing very well and he

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Speaker 7: frequents because this is just a very different situation.

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Speaker 1: It was no country for old men. When I was

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Speaker 1: down there, it was still looks like it. Yeah, scared.

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Speaker 1: We were at El Camedo at the local taco joints

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Speaker 1: at two in the morning, three in the morning and

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Speaker 1: there were a rough crowd. So you're saying, has crime

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Speaker 1: improved in El Paso?

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Speaker 7: El Paso is one of the safest cities, and border

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Speaker 7: cities tend to be because they have such a heavy

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Speaker 7: federal presence, but Al Paso is it's still Yeah, it's

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Speaker 7: still doing very well. I know real estate has continued

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Speaker 7: to do well there. It's still somewhat affordable market for

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Speaker 7: the country. And even during this, you know, it's people

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Speaker 7: get picked up in Sunland Park by whoever they're being

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Speaker 7: smuggled by, and then get deeper into the country, and

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Speaker 7: so what comes over the border is never whether it

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Speaker 7: be drugs or people, it's never staying in those border towns.

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Speaker 7: So they're oddly enough, typically safer places than one might expect.

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Speaker 1: I remember Fox was reporting there were five hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand felonies from twenty eleven. In twenty seventeen committed

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Speaker 1: in Texas alone, four thousand murders, like seven thousand kidnappings

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Speaker 1: and rapes. Did the governor talk about any of that,

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Speaker 1: the impacts of having a closed border on Texas and

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Speaker 1: the other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he sure didn't.

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Speaker 7: And that's why the Border Patrol Union endorsed him because

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Speaker 7: they said the Biden administration abandoned us when we had

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Speaker 7: millions of people coming over the border, about two and

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Speaker 7: a half million being arrested every year during the Biden administration,

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Speaker 7: and Greg Abbott, the third term governor, stepped up and

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Speaker 7: deployed ten thousand National Guard members.

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Speaker 4: And state police. I put in a little buoy system.

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Speaker 7: He built the wall, right, He paid for over one

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Speaker 7: hundred and twenty thousand people to get free bus rides

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Speaker 7: to cities nationwide, And part of that was political to

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Speaker 7: upset Democrats in those sanctuary cities, but the other part

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Speaker 7: was very logistical. You had people like Egopass, Texas, a

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Speaker 7: town of under thirty thousand people, had two thousand people

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Speaker 7: crossing the border every day, and border patrol was just saying,

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Speaker 7: we're just letting them out. We don't have anything, we

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Speaker 7: don't have an NGO to hand them off to. So

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Speaker 7: those buses were really, really critical to alleviate the burden

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Speaker 7: on those communities. And I'll just have people walking in

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Speaker 7: the streets, homeless with no way to get out. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: the Border Patrol was very grateful and they understand they're

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Speaker 7: in the Greg Abbott said, we're in the same mission together.

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Speaker 7: All we want is public safety, period.

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Speaker 1: Sure. So I was telling you earlier, and I was

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Speaker 1: talking about it earlier in the show. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was talking to Brian Glenn, our chief White House correspondent,

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Speaker 1: on a show the other day and how we thought

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Speaker 1: the White House needs to hammer home every day who

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Speaker 1: exactly they're arresting. Seems like they started doing that this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we had anything to do with it,

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Speaker 1: but even if we didn't, it's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: It's going to clarify some of these issues. You were saying,

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Speaker 1: you have a very liberal friend, and you explain to

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Speaker 1: them what ICE is actually doing. Tell us about what

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Speaker 1: you said to her. Maybe we can help some of

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Speaker 1: the audience talk some sense into these knuckleheads out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I've been covering ICE for eight years now and they're

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Speaker 7: doing the same exact thing they were doing eight years ago,

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Speaker 7: and they were doing in two thousand and three when

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Speaker 7: the agency was created after nine to eleven. They're not

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Speaker 7: going after random people, period.

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Speaker 4: It's just that simple. It looks random.

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Speaker 7: It looks very random when you see them pull someone

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Speaker 7: out of car, like they pulled them over for a

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Speaker 7: traffic stop. Now they're arresting them. It's not how it goes.

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Speaker 7: ICE is looking for a specific person every.

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Speaker 4: Single time they hit the street.

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Speaker 2: They know people.

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Speaker 7: In one case, when I was with ICE, they were

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Speaker 7: looking for someone who had four DUI convictions over sixteen years,

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Speaker 7: and I said, why didn't you arrest them after the

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Speaker 7: first d UI conviction? They said, because we're going after

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Speaker 7: people we can get to who might be held by

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Speaker 7: a jail. This guy was in California, so that wasn't happening.

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Speaker 7: And just the resources sixty five hundred ICE RO officers.

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Speaker 7: Now it's higher than that going after millions of people,

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Speaker 7: and so ICE is looking for a certain person every

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Speaker 7: time they're out into the public.

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Speaker 4: It looks random, but I can tell you.

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Speaker 7: Without a doubt it is not Border patrol who is

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Speaker 7: assisting ICE right now. They are using a little more leeway.

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Speaker 7: Right They cannot make an arrest by profiling someone or say,

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Speaker 7: based on your cultural background, ethnicity, you might be in

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Speaker 7: the country, Illey, that's completely illegal. What they can do

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Speaker 7: is go to home depot and say we saw thirty

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Speaker 7: people who looked like they were looking for work and

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Speaker 7: ask them for their immigration documents.

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Speaker 4: They can do that, and so that's.

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Speaker 7: Where you see border patrol being a little more I

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Speaker 7: don't want to say rogue because they're within the legal grounds,

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Speaker 7: but ICE is certainly every time going after one person,

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Speaker 7: and they typically choose to interdict that person.

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Speaker 4: They know their schedule, plan this out for weeks, if

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Speaker 4: not longer.

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Speaker 7: They try to get them between home and work, so

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Speaker 7: they might be in their car, they might be walking somewhere.

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Speaker 4: It looks like a random ambush, but it's not right.

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Speaker 1: So, okay, I know this administrative warrants, judicial warrants. There's

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Speaker 1: a difference on how ICE can execute different situations. But

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Speaker 1: the crux of all of this is, and maybe the

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Speaker 1: White House needs to hammer this home every day, every

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Speaker 1: day through Homeland Security and other that if these jails

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Speaker 1: and these liberal cities would have cooperated, they wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood looking for these ICE guys, right, looking

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Speaker 1: for these criminals.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and then that's why ICE is going out into

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Speaker 7: random communities, it seems because say someone gets arrested. Let's

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Speaker 7: use this man who was convicted four times of dui

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Speaker 7: in California. California is a sanctuary state. Wouldn't hold him

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Speaker 7: in jail for ICE. ICE finds out the day that

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Speaker 7: someone is arrested, they get a notification and they have

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Speaker 7: a whole headquarters where they track all this and they'll say, okay,

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Speaker 7: this person is an illegal immigrant. He's been charged and

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Speaker 7: arrested for say assault, that's a serious offense. We want

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Speaker 7: to make sure that we take them into custody. They

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Speaker 7: will send a detainer request, so they're asking the local

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Speaker 7: jail to detain that person for forty eight hours when

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Speaker 7: they're supposed to get released, so that ICE can come

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Speaker 7: and take them into their custody. Just transfer custody safely

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Speaker 7: in a jail setting. Sanctuary cities will not do that,

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Speaker 7: part of the reason being they're not sure they're on

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Speaker 7: legal grounds to hold some on forty eight hours past

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Speaker 7: their jail time, right, and so what ends up happening

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Speaker 7: is they release that person. Ice has to get around

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Speaker 7: to finding that person, you know, as a Trump and

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Speaker 7: mistonation has said, there's five hundred thousand to a million

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Speaker 7: people that we know of with criminal histories in the

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Speaker 7: United States. We're also illegally present, so that one person

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Speaker 7: is a very small needle in a haystack, and so

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Speaker 7: it's a very.

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Speaker 4: Complicated process for ICE to go after everyone.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well I learned something today, so I appreciate that

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Speaker 1: and tell viewers we have about twenty seconds where they

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Speaker 1: can follow you and read your great reporting.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 7: I'm anna underscore Jira Telly on every media outlet and

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Speaker 7: YouTube and I'm always posting videos where I go and I.

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Speaker 4: Know you can appreciate a good Italian last name.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, of course, yeah, making me and bolognes Anna.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm very grateful you came on

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Speaker 1: and we'll have you back. I'm sure this isn't going

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Speaker 1: anywhere this issue for a while. Thanks so much, David,

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Speaker 1: all right, enjoy. Thank you everybody for watching Breaking Point

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Speaker 1: this week. I'm David Zeer. More stuff to come thanks

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Speaker 1: front road to history and that's why we're here. So

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