1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Brian Austin Green here. Obviously I am not 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Tori Spelling, but I'm filling in for her this week 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: and tonight we're kind of peeling back the curtain. I 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: guess on on Masked Singer, a show that I've done, 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: a show that Tory did, and we're talking to a 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: couple who was just revealed as the Croissants in the 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: last episode. They are the two heads of the family 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: from the show Chrisly knows best. I've become friends with 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: their daughter, and so I say, we we get. 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: Right into it. They're they're kind of dynamic there. They 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: do this. 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: Drama filled reality show. So let's let's continue that here. 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: So let's welcome them. Todd and Julie Christly, How. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: Are you, buddy? How are you both doing good? Doing good? 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: Thank you so thank you so much for being here 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: with me. This is amazing, This is really fun. 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 4: For having us. This is so crazy because we were 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: expecting Tori. 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: I yeahs as was I an apparent, and I mean, 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: clearly I am not Tory Spooning. 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm taller than she is. 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: But this morning, Brian, I was laying there in the 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 5: bed when I was waking up and I was scrolling 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 5: through my Instagram and it was you doing an interview 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 5: with someone on a sofa about someone you had dated 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 5: in the past. 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh, Dion Cole, Yes, yeah, and now here you are 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: on this today, So that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: That was a really fun That was a really fun show. 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: I had a great time to doing that. 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: So for before we get into Mass Singer, I've done 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: Mass Singer as well, so we've we've got a lot 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: in common there, and I'm so curious to uh, to 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: ask you about the experience of it, because it's a 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: whirlwind experience. 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: I had such a crazy time doing it. 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 6: And then you did Special Forces with Savannah. 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: That's what I was just gonna say. 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: I met your daughter and I did Special Forces with her, 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: and she is fantastic. 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: She is. 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: You two did such an amazing job raising her. We 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: I always talk about the fact that, like, you know, 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: politics right now are so they're so partisan, and they 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: they're so divisive, and Savannah and I have very different 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: political beliefs and ideas, but it didn't matter. We we 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: developed this amazing friendship and and we we spoke. 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: We just loved each other. I I love her. 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: She's so she's so kind of I haven't spoken to 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: her in a while, so please please tell her. 52 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: I said, oh, that was. 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: What she came back from that show and said about you. 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 5: So that is the That is so crazy because she 55 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: said who was on there? And she told me and 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 5: I said, oh, my god, I loved him nine o 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 5: two one oh and uh, he goes, daddy, the nicest 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 5: human being you will ever meet. 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: So she wonderful things to say about you. 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: That's great to hear. 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: That makes me feel good, like that's people that are 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: people that are on the same on the same page 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: and want to spread that. That's that's fantastic. So let's 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: talk Let's talk a little bit about now, singer. You 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: guys were the croissants, Yes, yeah, was that your choice? 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: That costume? 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 5: They gave us some options, but when they ausgressed the croissant, 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: it was it was kind of like a nod in 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 5: a wink for us. Because Savannah's former fiance who was 70 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: killed on a motorcycle accident, he was French and he 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 5: had passed away while we were gone, and he was 72 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: like another son to me. And so when I saw that. 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: It was like God saying to me, Nick's gonna be 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: there with you. 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it was. It was a sweet moment. 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: And the costumes were so like, they do such an 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: amazing job with the costumes. 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: There's an amazing job. Amazing. 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: So I was here in the States. I was a giraffe, 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: which seemed really great. So it's fun. It's deceiving for me, 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: at least the show because it's I'm not a. 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: Singer, or either of you a singer. 85 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: It all Todd Kins saying he did a song with 86 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: the country singer Sarah Evans back in a few years ago. 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: Now, okay, but I am not. 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 6: At all so at all. 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: I remember going into it and at first I was like, 90 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: oh man, I got to sing in front of people. 91 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about this. And then 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you realize, oh, I'm going to 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: be in a costume. So you think like, oh great, 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: I get to kind of hide behind something. And then 95 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're out on stage and you're 96 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: wearing like, for me, I have this nine. 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: Foot crazy giraffe costume. 98 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: You guys, the croissants were these big, wide costumes. 99 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: It's it's It was shocking. 100 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: For me how fast you go from I'm excited about 101 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: this because I get to be anonymous to oh my god, 102 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: I can barely see the floor as I'm walking now. 103 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: It's way more nervous than if I was just standing 104 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: by myself well with my real. 105 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: Last too, that once the mask comes off, then you 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: have to sing again. 107 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 108 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: I was looking around, like we gotta sing again. I'm like, 109 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: what the mask is off? Oh my god. 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: So I'm not a singer and I've been friends with 111 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 2: Robin Fixed since we were kids, and I the last 112 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: song that I sang on the show was get Down 113 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: on It, and so we we did the unmasking and 114 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: then I had to sing the song again, and I 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: was like, oh god, I gotta sing this in front 116 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: of Robin. And then Robin came down on stage and 117 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: he sang it as well with me, and I was like, 118 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: this is. 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: I do not belong here. 120 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: I think it's wrong right now because I'm entertaining people 121 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: singing and I can tell everybody's cringing as I hit notes. 122 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 6: You know, did he know it was you? 123 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: No, he had no idea. So I got really lucky. 124 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: They they kind of went around and they guessed a 125 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: few people that were close but they but nobody ever guessed. 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: Now, Jenny guessed you guys right away, right, yes she did. 127 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: But we've known Jenny for a long time. 128 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you think that had something to do 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: with it because she already knew your man? 130 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: I do. 131 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 5: I think I think that had a lot to do 132 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 5: with it, because, like I said, she knows us and 133 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: I and my biggest concern when we were doing this, 134 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: I said, Jenny's going to figure this out right away. 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: As soon as I speak, she's gonna know. 136 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: And sure enough she did. 137 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: After watching it back when I heard him sing, like, 138 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: of course I knew, but it sounded familiar. I don't 139 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: think like they disguised it enough and he has such 140 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: a strong accent. 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 6: That it just I think it was. It was kind 142 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 6: of obvious. 143 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: It's it's amazing though, the secrecy around that is, and 144 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: it's the whole for people that don't know. They they 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: pick you up in like a blacked out suv. They 146 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: have the hoodie with the mirrored mask and the gloves 147 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: and the pants and the whole thing, and you have 148 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: to put that on in the car. So at the 149 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: point when you pull on the lot and you get 150 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: out of the car. From that point forward, you have 151 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: that don't speak to me sweatshirt on it. 152 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 6: I know we were like, what is this? 153 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 154 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: It is it? 155 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: Like the government needs to take a cue from the 156 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: way that the show. It is unbelievable, the secrecy, the 157 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: things they get away with. 158 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: And they've been doing it now for what this is? 159 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: Like what the fourteenth season I think of the show. 160 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 161 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: Unbelievable fourteenth for fourteen seasons. And I've never once had 162 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: heard of any sort of leak on that show either 163 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: either they do. I remember when I was on, I 164 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: was super excited because I thought I recognized one of 165 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: the voices of the people that was in the changing 166 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: tent next to me, you know, backstage and so uh 167 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: and then they were eliminated, so I was I was excited. 168 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm going to get to see 169 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: who it is and then I'll go talk to them 170 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: and whatever. And I go back in the trailer and 171 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: they've got the feed and then they it goes to 172 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: black right before the the unmasking. I was heartbroken. 173 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, damn, you mass Singer, you got 174 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: me again. 175 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: I was watching the thing on Instagram the other day 176 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 5: and it was one of our friends from Nashville. 177 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: He was talking about. 178 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 5: The mass singer and I'm like, oh my god, who 179 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: were theyre? 180 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Tiffany. 181 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 6: Uh. 182 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 5: Tiffany had she had heard her mask taken off last 183 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 5: night and and I was like, So, I was like, 184 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 5: damn it, Love, I wanted to be able to see. 185 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: I know that that was the thing. 186 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Like, I was such a fan of the dude that 187 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: was unmasked, and I knew it was him, and then 188 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: I found you know, I saw it afterwards and I 189 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: was like, I would have absolutely talked to him. And 190 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: so people think that all of the celebrities were all 191 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: like hanging out and drinking coffee and hang you know, 192 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: and doing that and like mingling backstage. 193 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: We're not. We are all in our like. 194 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: Solo trailers by ourselves all day long, and you're like, 195 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: they knock on the door and you have ten minutes 196 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: to put the costume on and then you put the 197 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: hood on and the stuff and you're kind of shuffled 198 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: around and you can't really see it. Was the biggest 199 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: relief for me, honestly, was the point when I was 200 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: unmasked because then I got to talk, I got to 201 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: like be a normal human being, and it was I 202 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: was I missed you feel like you know, like like 203 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: you have some sort of like a disease. 204 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: It felt like COVID times. 205 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 206 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it really did it, and I was so it 207 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 5: was so outside of our norm Brian, because our show 208 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: is very controlled, you know, not the ones around us. 209 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: It's not supposed to be around us. We've got the 210 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 5: same crew that we've always had, and then here we 211 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 5: were in another place on a lot. Now, you know, 212 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 5: I've done other shows and I've dealt with that, but 213 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 5: this one was a whole other level because it's almost 214 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 5: like you have no social interaction. You stuck in your trailer. 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: The producer comes to your door and you're like, oh 216 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: thank god, I can speak right. 217 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh it's the it's the worst. 218 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: It was. 219 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: I found myself every time I would walk into a 220 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: room and there'd be people I was hesitant of, like 221 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: can I speak to this person? 222 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: Like can I show my face to this person? You 223 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: don't know? 224 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: And it's such a small group, it's like five people 225 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: that actually know who's on. You've got your your vocal coach, 226 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: you've got your choreographers, You've got like these couple people. 227 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: But then everybody, if the director is walking up saying, oh, 228 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, croissants, thank you for being here, and okay, 229 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna spend here on the market. It's so it's 230 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: so weird. It's such a weird to for me to 231 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: do it and just be referred to as the giraffe 232 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: by everyone. Yeah, and I've done this so now two 233 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: times in two other countries, and it's the exact same experience. 234 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: I was a crash test dummy in where was that Australia? Paris? 235 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: I was a crash test dummy. It's it's so like 236 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: it's you just it's so odd. It's so it's such 237 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: an odd yet fun experience. You get to the end 238 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: of it, you go, man, that was one of the 239 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: coolest things. It's a bucket list thing. You check it 240 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: off and you go, I'm really glad I got to 241 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: do that. That's how I felt about Special Forces was 242 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: when am I ever going to get a chance to 243 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: do any of this? 244 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: Right? 245 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: When am I going to get to safely walk walk 246 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: a metal plank two hundred and fifty feet above a ravine? 247 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: Like that, that's unheard of. 248 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: How I did have that one? How did they read? 249 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: How did this even come about for you guys? Did they? 250 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: They just reached out to you and you you heard 251 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: from really. 252 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 6: Yep each out to us and talk was like, do 253 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 6: you want to do it? 254 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: I think he thought I wasn't going to do it 255 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: because I don't sing at all. 256 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 6: Uh huh, Yeah, I don't know, and. 257 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, wasn't. 258 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: I was going to say, was it a hard pass 259 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: at first? Because for me, at first it kind of was. 260 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: I was like, no, let's know. 261 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: And then the more I thought about. 262 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: It, we had like fifteen or twenty other offers since 263 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 5: we got home, right and all just coming in, and 264 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 5: I said no to everything because Brian, I was just 265 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: in a place to where I felt safe again. Yeah, 266 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 5: and home I'm with Julie and I was comfortable again. 267 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: And I did thing to interfere with that. 268 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 5: And then Savannah got mad at me. 269 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: She's like and she said, I don't know what. I 270 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: don't know what his problem is. 271 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 5: He's got to get off if his I asked, he's 272 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 5: got to get back out there. You know, he's going 273 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: back to work, he's getting back on television. And I 274 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 5: had said I wasn't, and then the offer came to us. 275 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 5: Our publicists brought it, gave it to Julie. Julie called me. 276 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 5: I was working out, and she said, we have an 277 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 5: offer from masked singer. 278 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: Do you want to do it? And I said, do 279 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: you want to do it? 280 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, Brian, that she's so that's so outside 281 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 5: of her comfort zone that she's going to say no. 282 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: So then I could say, Savannah, I would have done it, 283 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 5: but your mother didn't want to do and you. 284 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: Were you were like, damn it, why yes? 285 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: And I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? 286 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 5: And so she said I think we should do it 287 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 5: and I said really and she said yeah. So then 288 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: you know, we couldn't tell anyone because you know, you 289 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: have your confidentiality and stuff, so we couldn't go to 290 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 5: Savannah and tell her. 291 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: And Savannah, did you did you completely keep it a secret? 292 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 5: We didn't tell us because we were afraid to because 293 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 5: our agent had told us you cannot tell us, so 294 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 5: place I can't tell us. 295 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, you've so you've signed on the dotted line 296 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: like I had people. I had one guy that I 297 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: I had done a podcast with for five years or so, 298 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: and he sent me a text message one day and 299 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: he was like, I've been editing your voice for five years, Like, 300 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: I know you, I know your mannerisms, I know everything 301 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: you do. You're the Giraffe, aren't you. And I literally 302 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: just had to like not respond and pretend like it 303 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: got lost in junk mail because I was like, what 304 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: do you do. I can't lie to people about it. 305 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: I can't be that one. But at the same time, 306 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with it now. 307 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: Debana sent me a text message. I was in the trailer. 308 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: It was the first day we were there and she 309 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 5: says text and she goes, are you doing Mass Singer? 310 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: Oh no, And I said what I just went back 311 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: with what she says, don't do this with me. You're 312 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: doing Mass Singer. I just got a text message from 313 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: someone on the lot that said, I met your mom 314 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: and dad. They're the nicest people and they're here shooting 315 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 5: a show. 316 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: Dad. 317 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: That's the same lot that Mass Singer shoots on the 318 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 5: same sound stage. 319 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: And I said to a man, I can't talk right now. 320 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: I'm busy. And she was leaving to go out of 321 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: the country to Europe. She was doing it. 322 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 5: She was going to like seven or eight countries in Europe, 323 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: and so when I told Jesse, I've been so worried 324 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: about her leaving. But now that she's leaving the time zone, 325 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 5: it's going to be so different. 326 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: Thank god, not being. 327 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: Confronted with it. 328 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: Thank God. 329 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: She can call me when it's morning time, her time exactly, 330 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: and you're like, just another. 331 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: Boring day at home. It's happy to be here. 332 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 5: You know. 333 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: It's been a great year for us. She's getting reaccustomed 334 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: to everything. How has that been for you? Congratulations? By 335 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: the way, how has that been for you guys? 336 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: Being being back out and being with family for the holidays, 337 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: and it's got to be an incredible experience. 338 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 5: It's a huge blessing, Brian, you know, it's it was 339 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: a blessing to be back with our family and to 340 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: have each other in the same house. But you know, 341 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: your heart is heavy for those that you left behind, 342 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 5: right And so that was hard for me because I 343 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 5: got such a bond with so many of these guys, 344 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: and I had a lot of young kids there that 345 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 5: I kind of took in and tried to get you 346 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 5: made them go get their ged and helped them with 347 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 5: that and you know, made them shave their beards and 348 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: have a clean cut, and they became my kids, and 349 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 5: so I had to leave some of them behind, and 350 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 5: that was hard for me, and so it was bittersweet. 351 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 5: It was great to be back with my own family, 352 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 5: but I also left family behind. 353 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: Do you still keep in touch with with people that 354 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: you were every day? 355 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: I came home and made the twenty eighth. 356 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 5: And since I came home, I've gotten one hundred and 357 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 5: eleven guys home already. 358 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: Wow, I can't. I don't think people think about out 359 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: that side of it. They don't. 360 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: They don't realize that you know that those those types 361 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: of bonds can be formed, And I think it's I 362 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: think it's amazing that you have continued that that that 363 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: was that that became not something that you just completely 364 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: wanted to forget about and get away from, but it 365 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: became a part of your life. And I always, I 366 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: always feel like these catalysts happen and it's until you 367 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: take the time, you really spend the time to find 368 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: the silver lining and everything. You can be in the 369 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: middle of something going why is this happening to me? 370 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: And and then you look back on it, you go, 371 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: this is exactly why, because I was supposed to go 372 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: through this because I could then reach out and touch 373 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: these other people and help these other people along the way. 374 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: And I think that's I think I commend you both 375 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: for for doing that and find it's they don't call 376 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: it the road less traveled for for no reason. You know, 377 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: it's it's a harder road to travel. But the rewards 378 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: at the end, I think are fantastic. 379 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: And you know, we just finished another interview with Jana Kramer, 380 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: and I said to I said, Jen, I said, the 381 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: twenty eight months was bad because we were not with 382 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: each other. 383 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: I said, but that's those. 384 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 5: Twenty eight months, I says, have turned out to be 385 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 5: one of the biggest blessings of my life. I said, 386 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 5: because of the relationships that I have created that will 387 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: last because I look at it, Brian, I was not 388 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 5: a part of the military, but I look at it 389 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: as my brothers in arms. 390 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: You know that they went to war with them for sure. Yeah. 391 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: I feel the same way with like the cast from 392 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: nine to two one zero, that it's that weird, it's 393 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: that bond almost that you hear like and this is morbid, 394 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: but that like plane crash survivors have it when you 395 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: go through something that you can only you know, relate 396 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: to this other group of people with and you guys 397 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: are the only ones that had that experience. That experience 398 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: is something and it creates something. 399 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a for sure bond. It's amazing. 400 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 6: It was that. 401 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: It was the same thing on Special Forces. I gotta say, 402 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: like we we we we knew each other kind of 403 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: barely though, like it was a big group of us, 404 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: but we went through such a traumatic experience that I 405 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: got out first and then as and literally as soon 406 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: as Savannah got out, everybody is texting everybody like I'm out, 407 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: you know. 408 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: And as soon as I got a text from Savanna, 409 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, what happened? 410 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: What? 411 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: And you want to catch up and do all of that. 412 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 6: And you were kind of close quarters, you know. 413 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: And that's that's yeah, some of the women that I 414 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: met because where I was it was a smaller facility. 415 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: It was women, and there was average about about two 416 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: hundred women. But you're really, you know, you're you're sleeping 417 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: in the same area, you're working, you're eating, you're you know, 418 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: anything that you do, you're right there with someone all 419 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: the time. And so even a friendship that you would 420 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: have on the outside is completely different because you know, 421 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: I may have a best friend, but I may not 422 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: see them for a month or whatever. 423 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 6: You know, whereas you're. 424 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: With people every single day and you kind of find 425 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: your tribe, you know, your your your core people that you. 426 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: Cant well in. 427 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: Those conversations too, that you have with the people that 428 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: you're with at that point are different from any conversations 429 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: you've ever had in your life before that. 430 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: It's like, no one can know what it was like 431 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: doing nine O two one oh other than the people 432 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: that you did nine O two and o with. 433 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's the same way. 434 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: It's the same way with what we went through. Unless 435 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 6: you've gone through it, you don't. I never I was. 436 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: I was fifty years old going to prison, and I 437 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: had never known anybody that had ever even went to prison, 438 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: let alone. I knew nothing about it. So if you've 439 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: gone through something like that and then when you go 440 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: through it with other people, it does create a bond 441 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: that you just you can't explain it. 442 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 5: I think that there's a vulnerability Ryan that absolutely that 443 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 5: you that you're all sitting there commiserating and you're talking 444 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 5: about missing your kids and your wife and the things 445 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: that have happened you in your life. 446 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 4: And I have had a very blessed life. 447 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 5: But when I'm listening to these other kids out here, 448 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: you know that are the same age as my children, 449 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 5: and I hear that, you know, they never had a 450 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 5: father at home, or their mother gave them up for 451 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 5: adoption or left them with her their grandparents or whatever. 452 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 5: And I think I have had such a good life, 453 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 5: you know, when I listen to these other stories. But 454 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 5: I think that when we are vulnerable to the situations 455 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 5: that we're in, it opens us up to being more. 456 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: Receptive for sure. 457 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 5: And you know, and I say that about pologists, you know, 458 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: if we would all just take the time to be quiet, 459 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 5: to listen, every person has something to say and what 460 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 5: they what they're saying is coming from a place of 461 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 5: what they've experienced, and everyone's experiences were different. 462 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Savannah and I had that conversation early on. 463 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: So we it was funny. 464 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: We were in New Zealand and they put us up 465 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: in these in these hotels and we were there for 466 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: like two days before the whole thing started, and we 467 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: were all supposed to stay in our rooms, so nobody 468 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: knew who else was there, and of course she. 469 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 4: Was the band. 470 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 2: I didn't stay any right, no, of course not. It 471 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: was so it's funny. It was Jojo Siwa, who who 472 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: I'd known before. She was in the gym, and someone 473 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: had left a map of the property and then rooms 474 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: were circled with initials on them. So she starts deducting 475 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: these initials, who like, who are the names that match 476 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: up with them? And there was like bag So she 477 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: was like, okay, oh my god, Brian's here, and so 478 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: she started putting it all together and then we ended 479 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: up having kind of these We would sort of pass 480 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: each other. 481 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: On the paths as we were walking around the property. 482 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: So Savannah and I like very quickly got into a 483 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: conversation not just about politics, but very much about our 484 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: kind of beliefs in society and the people that were 485 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: around us, and the information that we had and what 486 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: we had and didn't have, and it was it ended 487 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: up being this very we had a common bond in 488 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 2: the fact that neither one of us knew all the 489 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: information from the other side. And it wasn't until we 490 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: sat and we just listened to each other without judging 491 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 2: each other that it was really informative and you end 492 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: up learning something or the other person learned something and 493 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: you and you leave the situation, you go, Okay, we're 494 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: just two We're two people that have been informed in 495 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: different ways, but we still love our family and like 496 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: we still are passionate about the things that we're passionate about. 497 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: And we shared these common you know, these common sort 498 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: of moral moral beliefs, and and I think I think 499 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: if more people got into those conversations with each other, 500 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: this country would be a very different country than what 501 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: you know. 502 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 5: I agree with you, I told I told Savannah we 503 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 5: were talking last week, and I said, listen, you and 504 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 5: I don't agree on everything. I'm not going to say 505 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 5: all the things that you want to hear. You're not 506 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 5: going to say all the things that I want to hear. 507 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 5: But as your father, we're going to agree to listen 508 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 5: to each other open dialogue. And and when I say 509 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: certain things to her, you can tell she wants to 510 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 5: push back. But then, Brian, you can see her that 511 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: wall coming down a little bit, and she'll say, well, 512 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: and then what was in a couple of weeks I 513 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 5: heard someone said, well, Savanna told me that you told 514 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 5: her so, and so, and I said, oh really, I said, 515 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: I didn't know that she'd heard that. And so, you know, 516 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 5: we all have the ability to be either a blessing 517 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 5: or a hindrance. And I'm not looking to hinder your 518 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: path that your on. If I can help you, then 519 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 5: I'll help you. I don't want to hurt you. Yes, 520 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 5: you know, I am a Christian and my values are 521 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 5: that you are my brother in Christ. And regardless of 522 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: how you feel about who you voted for, what you 523 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: do in your career are choices. 524 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: That you have made or who you love. 525 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: My job as a Christian is to wrap my arms 526 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 5: around you and love you as my brother in Christ, 527 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 5: not to judge you. And if we can all, if 528 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 5: we could all just look at each other as just 529 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 5: fellow human beings, as family, as our own brothers and 530 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 5: sisters in Christ, I feel like that all the anger 531 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 5: starts to dissipate and and we start seeing each other 532 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 5: as human beings. 533 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, I a thousand percent agree with that. There 534 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: there are differences in everything. Everyone has different religious views, 535 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: different political views, different, but it doesn't mean that we 536 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: are different, that we are different as human beings. We 537 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: all share that we're all the same species. We all 538 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 2: have the ability to choose the way we listen and 539 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: respond to people. I always say, like the I genuinely 540 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: feel like the only control that I have in life. 541 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: And you guys know, like you just you just got 542 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: out of out of prison. Did you in a million 543 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: years ever see that coming? But that's out of our control. 544 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: The only thing that is in my control is are 545 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: the choices that I make who I choose to be 546 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: while living life. Life is going to be up and 547 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: down and sideways, and it's going to be incredibly exciting 548 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: and enjoyable, and then I'm going to have times where 549 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: it's just incredibly hard and difficult and depressing and sad. 550 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: Who do I want to be during all of that? 551 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 4: Those? 552 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: To me, that's what I have control over. 553 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 6: And what are your children going to see? Your children? 554 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 6: That's what you want your children to see. 555 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: Because there's my legacy. 556 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: Nothing that my children can do that I'm that's going 557 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: to make me stop loving them another that grow up 558 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: and have it believe exactly the way I believe, or 559 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: believe polar opposite and do completely opposite. 560 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 6: I will yes voice my opinion. 561 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a good idea or I 562 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: really wish you would consider this, but it's not going 563 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: to change how I feel about them, and I'm going 564 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: to love them through it. 565 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 5: And you know, I don't want to be in a 566 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: room that everyone thinks the same way. 567 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 4: No, of course not, because then there's no growth. 568 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 5: And sure, some of my greatest growth and some of 569 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 5: my greatest education has come from conversations with someone that 570 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 5: believes totally opposite of what I believe. In a lot 571 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 5: of my compassion and my mind has been opened to 572 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 5: so many conversations that I've had with people that if 573 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 5: I'd been sitting in the same room with Julie and 574 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: we think the exact same way, then I don't think 575 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 5: about what I'm just what I'm trying to talk to. 576 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: You about right now. 577 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 5: I want to know what your struggle has been. I 578 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 5: want to know so that if I run across someone 579 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 5: that's going through that same struggle, I'm now more equipped 580 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 5: to help that person get through their level of path 581 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 5: I think I think. 582 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Prison really did that in a way to us, because 583 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: we were exposed to people that we would have probably 584 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: never be around in our entire life, you know, I 585 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: mean never had you had other people who you know, 586 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: it was they were in there for a white collar crime, 587 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: but then you had these kids that have been in 588 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: there for drugs and other things, you know, stuff we 589 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: would just have never around. But it totally when you 590 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: walk through those doors, and Titus said this, it is 591 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: the greatest equalization tool that we have in this country 592 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: because when you walk through those doors. Yeah, I walked 593 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: out of a beautiful home, out of a nice car, 594 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: and I checked myself in. But when I walked through 595 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: those doors, I'm no different than anybody else. 596 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: You're a number. You're a number. 597 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 6: We all become our own reg number, you know. 598 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: Right. 599 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: That was very eye opening and I think there was 600 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: growth for me at fifty years old to think that 601 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: I could I could actually I've always thought of myself 602 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: as being open minded, but really and truly was I. 603 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 6: You know, I lived in this bubble. 604 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: You know, I've had this beautiful life, and I think 605 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: until you are forced to live. 606 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 6: In it, it totally changes your perspective. 607 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 5: And you know, at the end of the day, if 608 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 5: you have Brian, you're in a room and you're and 609 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 5: you're with fifty other guys, and thirty of you are 610 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: eating and twenty of you are not are you looking 611 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 5: at those twenty that are not eating and saying I'm 612 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 5: not going to feed you because you're a Democrat, or 613 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: because you're a Republican. 614 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 6: Or because you're black, or you're a Latino or this. 615 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: It should be that my brother is hungry. 616 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 5: So I want to share what I have with you, 617 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: and that is That's what I want the world to be. 618 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: Because I have future grandchildren coming. 619 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 5: I want my grandchildren to love who they love and 620 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: to feel loved. I want grandchildren to be good, decent, 621 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 5: honorable human beings with servants' hearts and that has compassion 622 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: for their fellow brothers and sisters. That doesn't mean that 623 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 5: because you know you wore red and I hate red, 624 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 5: that I. 625 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: Can't be your friend. It doesn't mean that because you've dated. 626 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 5: Someone that I don't like, that that means I don't 627 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 5: like you. It just means that, Brian, that you're that 628 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: you're down with eyeing down with her. So, because I 629 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 5: love you, I'm won't put up with this ship. 630 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 4: But do it, do it right? Yeah, bring her around 631 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: me and smiles. 632 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give I'm going to give you my opinion 633 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: on this, but it's just my opinion. I'm not going 634 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: to state it like it's a fact and like you 635 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: have to change your life because of my opinion on it. 636 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: But it's you know, toal what you're talking about. That 637 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: is to me, that is a legacy. Like I, you know, 638 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: the the world that my children and my grandchildren have 639 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: after I'm gone, for them to be sitting and talking about, 640 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: Oh my. 641 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: God, what a great human being. 642 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: And I learned so much about decency and kindness and 643 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: self awareness and those things that I didn't learn from 644 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: anybody else. And and he just continued to push those 645 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: on me. That is That's the beauty of being to me, 646 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: being a parent. 647 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 5: Knowing that I'm doing that it is And you know, 648 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 5: and we have friends that you know that are in 649 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 5: politics and you and I and I say to them, 650 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: I don't care who's in the White House. Who's in 651 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: the White House doesn't govern what's going on in my house. Yeah, 652 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 5: goes on in my house with my children is what 653 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: I'm putting out into the world. My children is what 654 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 5: I'm putting out in the world. The message that I 655 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 5: instill in them is what I'm putting out in the world. 656 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: So if you. 657 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 5: Felt like that Biden was the shittiest president on the 658 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 5: face of the earth. He really didn't have any control 659 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 5: over you parenting your children. 660 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: That's what you're putting into your child. 661 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 5: If you think that President Trump is the shittiest president 662 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: in the world, he's not controlling what's going on in 663 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 5: your house and what you're pumping into your child. He 664 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 5: does none of these None of these men, these are men, 665 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 5: These are not gods. None of these men have control 666 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 5: over your heart and you being willing to extend a 667 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: hand to your brother and sister. That's down that just 668 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 5: because they don't want you to do it doesn't mean 669 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 5: you don't that you can't do it. 670 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: True. So that's how that's how I live. 671 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 5: I don't I don't get marred down in the mud 672 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 5: of oh my god, you voted for this person, or 673 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 5: you voted for this person. You don't know who I 674 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 5: voted for. First of all, I didn't vote because I 675 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: was in prisident. I didn't have the opportunity right, So 676 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 5: they can't nobody blame shit on me about. 677 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: Break I was not inside. 678 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: I would actually like to claim immunity on this one. 679 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: Vote. 680 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 5: And I you know, I listen. I love President Trump. 681 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 5: He's been wonderful to our family. He reunited us and 682 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 5: he did a wonderful But as I said, President Trump 683 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 5: doesn't agree with everything that I do, and he doesn't 684 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 5: have to and I don't have to agree with everything 685 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 5: he does, or Biden or Obama or. 686 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: Clinton, who the hell ever's in the office. 687 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 5: I personally felt like that I didn't understand why President 688 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 5: Trump wanted to be president because the White House was 689 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 5: a downsize to him. 690 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: So he was he was already living better in New 691 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 4: York than when he's living in the White House. 692 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 5: So you know, for me, I'm grateful for everything that 693 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 5: has happened to me in my life, the good, the bad, 694 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 5: and the indifferent, because every dose of it is what 695 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 5: truly created what my life is becoming. 696 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 4: And I'm grateful for that. 697 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: Amazing I we share very similar views. I feel the 698 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: same way. 699 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: Well, it has been a pleasure, Brian. 700 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: It has been unbelievable. Yeah, thank you so much for 701 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: jumping on. I'm sorry again. I'm sorry that I'm not Tori. 702 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: I hope that wasn't any disappointment for you guys. 703 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 3: Fantastic surprise. You guys were great on the show. 704 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,959 Speaker 2: Thank you for entertaining everyone with your appearance on Mass 705 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: Singer and thank you for being on here and please 706 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: send my love to your daughter. 707 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: I want to thank you, God bless Thank you guys,