1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: Hey guys, we had some big breaking news this morning 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: with regard to Israel that we wanted to bring you 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: a few actually major updates for you this morning. So 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: first and foremost, the temporary truce is over. Put this 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: up on the screen. The truce has expired. Israel has 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: resumed their assault. International mediators said that talks were continuing 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: in the hopes of quickly reviving the truce, but as 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: of now you had Hamas blaming Israel for the collapse 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: of the ceasefire, saying in a statement it had offered 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: to release more hostages, including older people, but that Israel 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: had made a quote prior decision to resume the criminal aggression. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: That is Hamas's side of the story. Israel says that 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Hamas violated the ceasefire agreement by firing on Israel and 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: failing to release as many hostages as it had promised. 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Hamas released eight hostages on Thursday. That was too fewer 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: than expected after releasing at least ninety four since the 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: truce began, And Sagar, you know basically where we are 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: at this point is the original agreement that enabled this 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: temporary ceasefire had to do with women and children. Well, now, 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: at this point most of the women and children have 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: been released. So what Hamas is saying, and you know, 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: take it for what it's worth, is that they've been 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: trying to expand that deal to include other categories of 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: people in Israel at this point has been relatively uninterested. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: We've covered on our show, of course comments from Netan 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: Yahoo and also comments from Defense Minister Galant about how 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: they are very committed to going back to the war, 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: to even expanding the war and focusing on the south 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: of the Strip. And in fact, this morning we can 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: also report put this up on the screen flag byro 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: and Ryan Grim. They are leafleting in Conunis, that is 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: one of the cities in the southern part of the 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Gaza Strip where people had fled, and they are warning 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: them that they need to evacuate con Unis less before 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: this next bombing campaign begins. And we already also know 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: this morning that some of those bombs have already begun dropping, 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: and we've had reports of dozens of people already killed 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: in renewed hostilities. 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so all of this fits basically what was telegraphed, 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: But the big question is around how long this is 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: going to go and there's a big dueling strategy between 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: what the United States and really the Western allies of 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: Israel want and then what Israel itself is planning on doing. 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: So we can go and put this up there on 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: the screen. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken reportedly told the 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: Israelis behind the scenes, he said, you have weeks, not 47 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: months to prosecute this campaign. The Israelis are like, no, 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: I really don't think so. And actually Crystal just breaking 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: this morning from the Financial Times with a leak from 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: the Tel Aviv from Tel Aviv and the Israeli war 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: Cabinets says quote Israel plans for a long war, aims 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: to kill the top three Hamas leaders. They say that 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: the intensive ground strategy in Gaza will continue into early 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Obviously, that is one where that could 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: mean anything. That could mean January. It also could mean 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: March or April, depending on which way that you want 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: to look at it. The top three Hamas leaders inclusion 58 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: in that actually includes people who are currently living in Noha, 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: so that'll be an interesting thing. But most importantly is 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: they are basically trying to do to or telegraphing that 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: they want to do to communists what they did in 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: North Gaza, which puts them directly at odds with what 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: the US and growing calls for limiting and changing Israeli 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: tactics here in the US. They want to do the 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: exact same thing to envelop the city of communists cut 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: it off from the south, so we will see multiple 67 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: more ground incursions, most likely from a forward operating in 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: North Gaza. Gaza City could be a staging area and 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: also the shared border. What they did previously to Gaza cities, 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: they cut it off from the south in terms of 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: fleeing both fighters and civilians, and then came in from 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: the top and enveloped the entire thing while having air strikes. 73 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: Now the air strikes have already resumed. It's difficult to 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: pin down exactly where, but even some reported at the 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: rough a crossing like previously that we had seen. And 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: of course, you know what we have to always think 77 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: about are the two million or so people who remain 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: inside of Gaza, we're told are being told now to 79 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: flee this effectively, while it was already one of the 80 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: most densely populated places in the world, they are now 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: fleeing the quote unquote evacuation zone in the south and 82 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: trying to limit people. It's difficult to see without a map, 83 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: but if you think about the first third is basically 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: been occupied, most of the civilian infrastructure has been destroyed. 85 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: Now we're moving on to the second third, and everybody's 86 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: being trying or at least ideally compressed into this like 87 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: small tiny area of the strip, which you know, raises 88 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: a question of where the hell they want to go, 89 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: and is I think is going to significantly increase questions 90 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: and pressure and high stakes negotiations because I just also 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: saw from the Wall Street Journal increasing calls from Israeli 92 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: leaders who are pressuring the US officials. They're like, you 93 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: guys need to take some of these Palestinians, or you 94 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: need to pressure the Arab states to accept them. And 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: of course, you know, the Palestinians themselves are very reluctant 96 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: to take that dale simply because they don't think that 97 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: they'll ever be able to come back. This goes to 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: much more meta questions around all of this. But the 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: I think we could say with probably good confidence that 100 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: the truce is over, at least in the form that 101 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: we knew it. If there is a temporary cease fire. 102 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: It possibly could maybe a day or two something like that, 103 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: but the willingness of the Israeli forces to restart the 104 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: campaign it looks pretty ironclad. And that is a rebuke 105 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: I think of the Biden administration, who very publicly was like, 106 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: we don't want this to restart. So it also shows 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: you the limits of US diplomacy. 108 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Well, especially when that diplomacy only comes with like, please 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: listen to what we're saying, and not the actual use 110 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: of any of the cards that we could very easily 111 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: play if we wanted to. And let me read a 112 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: little bit of the specifics of what Tony Blinkln reportedly 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: told the Israeli war Cabinet, because it shows you just 114 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: how at odds the administration at least what they're saying 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: is from the Israeli War Cabinet and of course led 116 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: by Netan Yahoo. So these reported remarks were quoted in Hebrew. 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: This is a translation by Channel twelve News, which is 118 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: part of why it's like English is a little bit choppy. Anyway, 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: Blinken said, according to them, quote, you can't operate in 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: southern Gaza in the way you did in the north. 121 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: There are two million Palestinians there. You need to evacuate 122 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: fewer people from their homes, be more accurate in the attacks, 123 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: not hit un facilities, and ensure there are enough protected 124 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: areas for civilians, and if not, then don't attack where 125 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: there is a civilian population. He goes on to ask 126 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: what is your system of operation? He told them at 127 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: one point, in no uncertain words, you do not have months, 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: you have weeks. Now again, is US influence going to 129 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: be brought to bear to try to guarantee that result 130 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: remains to be seen? We haven't seen any of that 131 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: thus far. He also raised the question of the day 132 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: after all, right after you finish your bombing campaign and 133 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: your ground invasion in all of this, what then? Of course, 134 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: the net Yahoo government has floated all sorts of trial balloons, 135 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: which we've discussed here, one of which seems to be 136 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: their ideal solution of pushing everybody out as you're talking 137 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: about Sagar. They're into you know, neighboring Arab countries or 138 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: some to the US, or exclusively into Egypt, but they 139 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: won't actually commit to what their real goal is. And 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Blincoln said, you don't want the Palestinian authority on the 141 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: day after we understand that that's what the Solution in 142 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: the US has been pushing. The best way to kill 143 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: an idea is to bring a better idea. The other 144 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: states in the region need to know what you are planning, 145 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: so putting pressure there as well. But again clearly, and 146 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: I think with the restart of this bombing campaign, and 147 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, which thus far seems to be approached in 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: exactly the same way that the Northern bombing campaign occurs. 149 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: They don't care what the US says behind the scenes 150 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: or leaks to the press, et cetera. There's no evidence 151 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: that they care about our words and our secret displeasure 152 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: with their actions to you know the point you were making, Sager. 153 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: You have so many people condensed now in this very 154 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: small area that the possibility of even greater civilian death 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: is very real, very real. There's a report that came out. 156 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you had a chance to read it. 157 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: It's from this nine to seventy two magazine. I may 158 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: dig it into it more on Monday, talking about the 159 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: way they have approached this war and how it's actually 160 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: been different than some of the tactics that they've used previously, 161 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: even within Gaza, and one of the major categories of 162 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: targets that they've approached are so called power targets. These 163 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: are things like major buildings, high rise apartment buildings, where 164 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: in previous wars, it's not that they would have put 165 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: them off limits, but they would have at least tried 166 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that civilians had left before they struck 167 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: these targets. This time around, they made these power targets 168 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: and individual residential homes. They're primary targets. Not because this 169 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: was the best way to degrade hamasa's capability, far from it. 170 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Some of these buildings have very limited relationship to Hamas whatsoever, 171 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: but because they want to shock the population into putting 172 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: pressure on HAMAS. So those are the sort of tactics 173 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: that Blinkn is referring to here when he says you 174 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: can't do in the South what you did in the North. 175 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: The North is destroyed, like there is nothing left to 176 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: go back to. Effectively, all of the civilian life and 177 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: infrastructure in the North has been gutted. So that's where 178 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: we are right now today. And this comes also as 179 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: there is a stunning report from the New York Times 180 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: about we were debating whether you can even call it 181 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: an intelligence failure. At this point they knew put this 182 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: up on the screen about the October seventh plans. More 183 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: than a year in advance. Israeli officials obtain Hamas's battle 184 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: plan I'm reading now for the October seventh terrorist attack, 185 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: a year before it happened, documents, emails, and interviews show, 186 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: but is really Military and intelligence officials dismiss the plan 187 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out. 188 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: The translated document didn't set a date for the attack, 189 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: but described a methodical assault designed to overwhelm the fortifications 190 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: around the Gaza Strip, take over Israeli cities, and storm 191 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: key military bases, including a division headquarters. They go on 192 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: to say they followed this blueprint with shocking precision. You're 193 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: talking about. It called for a barrage of rockets to start, 194 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: drones to knock out the security cameras, and automated machine 195 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: guns along the border. Gun Men to pour into israel 196 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: En mass in paragliders, on motorcycles and on foot, all 197 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: of which happened on October seventh. And not only that, 198 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: so they've got this document laying out the plan. They 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: also had an intelligence unit that was monitoring activities in 200 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Gaza Strip and these analysts were saying, we're watching them 201 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: prepare for these attacks. We see them training, we see 202 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They're serious about this, and those concerns 203 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: by the higher ups from this, by the way, all 204 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: female unit, we're completely dismissed in spite of the fact 205 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: that they had this intelligence right in front of their 206 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: face of what they were planning. It is truly astonishing 207 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: that this was missed. 208 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not an intelligence failure because it's clearly 209 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: the intelligence work. This is a leadership failure through and through. 210 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: There's no other way to describe it. Also, there was 211 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: a lot of talk after nine to eleven, not only 212 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 2: of the intelligence failure, but everyone's like, oh, it was 213 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: a failure of imagination. I mean here, it just seems 214 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: to be that they just simply did not believe that 215 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: Hamas was capable of a large scale military operation, despite twenties, 216 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: almost twenty years now of them warning that they have 217 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: military capabilities, rockets, terrorists, they have all of these weapons. 218 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: And this is why, you know, you have to just 219 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: be deeply skeptical here where when they say BB says 220 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: we need a long war, well, the longer this thing 221 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: goes on, the better off it is for him. The 222 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: more he farther away he can get up from October seventh, 223 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: the less questions are going to be asked about what happened. 224 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: He says. 225 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: We'll talk about the failures the day after the war, 226 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: but for now, we're going to continue to fight the war. 227 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: And you can't help but think he's one of the 228 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: least popular prime ministers now in all of Israeli history. 229 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 2: The coalition government behind him that continues to support him 230 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: is held on by a thread, largely by most of 231 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: his furthest right elements, and he has a direct incentive. 232 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: So this is again why I just think if he 233 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: truly cared about Israel, he would resign. There's just no question. 234 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: You need a leader with actual confidence to be for 235 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: the Israeli public and also to negotiate in best faith 236 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: for whenever you're sitting across the table from the US, 237 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: from all the Western allies. So yeah, reading through it, 238 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: it is just it's shocking, because what's crazy is the 239 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: plan was followed almost to a tee. The blueprint of 240 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: where and how to attack, not just the paragliders, their area, 241 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: where to go. 242 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: What they do. They wanted to overrun how they're going 243 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: to distract him with the rockets. They knew that they 244 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: had been distracted already in the West Bank by the 245 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: extremist factions of the Net Yahoo coalition. All of it 246 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: to a t. I mean, it's incredible reading these emails 247 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: that this intelligence analyst was sending, trying her best to 248 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: send up a warning, she said. I utterly refute that 249 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: the scenario is imaginary. She wrote. In one email, The 250 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: Hamas training exercise, she said, fully matched the content of 251 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Jericho Wall, which is the name of this document that 252 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: they were able to obtain. It is a plan designed 253 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: to start a war, she added. It is not just 254 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: a raid on a village. I mean, just as direct 255 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: as she possibly can, and they just dismissed it. And 256 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I think it speaks to you know, it speaks to 257 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: an complete level of arrogance, right Net and Yahoo has 258 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: this idea we control the height of the flames, obviously not. 259 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: I think it speaks to level of contempt for Palestinians 260 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: of like Ah. They're not capable of anything approaching this, so, 261 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, which ties into the arrogance. Also a level 262 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: of overconfidence in their technology. Their technology, you know, their 263 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: fancy wall with all their super top tech, super expensive, 264 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: with their remote control machine guns, et cetera, which we 265 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: know from what unfolded on October seventh, was mostly disabled 266 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: by failure cheap off the shelf drone technology, you know, 267 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: something that an ordinary citizen could easily purchase and acquire. 268 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: They were able to, you know, and this is part 269 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: of why the response also failed. For many hours, people 270 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: were left on their own to fend for themselves. When 271 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: you have this, you know, ragtag bunch of terrorists versus 272 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: one of the pre eminent militaries in the entire world. 273 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: So it is stunning to see this level of failure. 274 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: And of course many people are drawing comparisons to the 275 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: intelligence failure we suffered before nine to eleven, where again 276 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't that we didn't have the information, it's that 277 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: people did, didn't do anything about it, and didn't take 278 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: it seriously. 279 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: To be honest, Crystal, this is worse because we knew 280 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: been so the famous warning I think it was August 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: two thousand and one, bin Laden determined to strike the US. 282 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: We knew that two of the hijackers were in the 283 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: United States. The Saudi's definitely knew it too, probably helped him, 284 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: but that's just conjecture. I guess we did not know 285 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: about the World Trade Center, we didn't know about the Pentagon. 286 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: It was a cell of only nineteen people. That's another 287 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: reason why this makes it even more stunning. You had 288 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: almost twelve fifteen hundred people who participated in this attack. 289 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: That's literally what one thousand times yeah, one hundred times 290 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: more than the number who participated in nine to eleven. 291 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: So nine to eleven is not even comparable in terms 292 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: of the planning and the scale they It would be 293 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: as if the CIA and the FBI literally knew they 294 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: were like, awe, they were going to hit the World 295 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: Trade Center with two Boeing seven thirty sevens. They're going 296 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: to hijack multiple things. Are they're going to use box cutters. 297 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: These are their attacks. They're going to strike in the more. 298 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: That's basically the level of precision that Israel had on this, 299 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: and they ignored it. So yeah, I don't think you can. 300 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: And this is where the most normy critique of Netrognal 301 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: was just so obvious. There's two options. Either he ignored 302 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: it and so did the Israeli leadership, or his bullshit 303 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: and call to personality where he centered all Israeli politics 304 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: around him, distracted the entire populace and top leadership away 305 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: from what should have been focused on security, and in 306 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: that vacuum, Hamas perfect storm they were able to pull 307 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: off this attack. So I think it's ten times worse 308 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: than nine eleven. 309 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Well, and let's not forget that, you know, Netanyahu's long 310 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: time plan in order to thwart a Palestinian state that 311 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: he has stated multiple times is we need to bolster 312 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Hamas because then we can use them as an excuse 313 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: for not being able to pursue a piece and keep 314 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: the West Bank and the Gaza strip separated with again 315 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: this idea, this arrogant idea that we'll control the height 316 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: of the flames, and you know, so I can control 317 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: what's going on here on mister security. So it really is, 318 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is quite sunning. It will also 319 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: feed the conspiracy that this was effectively like a false flag, 320 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: like they let it happen intentionally, which I don't buy. 321 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. But I'm curious your thoughts 322 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: because this is such a political disaster for a net 323 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: And yah, yes, that's why I don't like he is ideological. 324 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, right that he's very ideological person. 325 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: But his number one ideology is to himself and his 326 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: own grip on power. And you would have to be 327 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: a complete fool, which I do not think that he is, 328 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: to think this was going to be somehow good for 329 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: you politically. So that's why I don't buy that. I 330 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: think it's just sheer in competence. But that doesn't mean 331 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: that as many nefarious leaders do when a crisis hits, 332 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: that they don't then try to use that crisis to 333 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: effectuate whatever their personal political and ideological goals are. And 334 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're seeing unfold right now. 335 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, Okay, we're going to have another update for 336 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: you now on Gavin Newsome and the Ron DeSantis debate. 337 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: Let's get to it, okay, And now turning to the 338 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: hottest event in American politics, not really the Gavin Newsome 339 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: rumble in Fox News shosted by Sean Hannity versus Ron 340 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Desanti's debate, the two different ideologies and the governors facing off, 341 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: and it was certainly something and we've pulled what we 342 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: think are some of the best moments from that, we 343 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: should note to the way that we pulled these is 344 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: I think, very different than how a lot of others 345 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 2: are digesting in terms of what actually matters electorally, what 346 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: is really going to hit home according to the priorities 347 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: of Americans. First and foremost was a pretty strong opening 348 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: from Governor Gavin Newsom where he played off the initial 349 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: attacks from Governor Ron DeSantis, but more importantly, he actually 350 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: hit DeSantis for his underperformance so far in the GOP 351 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: primary while parrying some of his attacks. Let's take a 352 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: listen to that. 353 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: There are profound differences tonight, and I look forward to 354 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 4: engage them. But there's one thing in closing that we 355 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: have in common is neither of us will be the 356 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: nominee for our party in twenty twenty four. 357 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: The reason that we pulled that one crystal, I think 358 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: is that a it shows the political adeptness that was 359 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: displayed throughout the entire debate by Newsom anytime, I think 360 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: DeSantis landed several legitimate critiques against Newsom. Newsom, though, is 361 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: a politician, and this is the magic of television. He 362 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: in a greasy fashion, moves himself all the way around. 363 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: It turns it actually into an attack and a parry 364 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: and then gets underneath DeSantis's skin, who has that artificial 365 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: smile on his face for the entire time. And I 366 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 2: actually thought it was a very effective way for Newsom 367 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: to constantly needle DeSantis throughout the entire thing, because if 368 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: this were just a debate on its face between if 369 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: neither of them were presidential aspirts or any of that, 370 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: I think it would have been totally different. But DeSantis 371 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: has to both manage his presidential campaign of trying to 372 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: differ himself from Trump and all that, and Newsom then 373 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: can use the polling position to constantly undercut DeSantis by 374 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: borrowing and we're going to show you this in a 375 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: little bit, borrowing talking points from the Trump campaign to 376 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: hit DeSantis, which was very effective to parry him from 377 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: a lot of these. Overall, that's what I thought his 378 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: best political strength throughout the entire night. 379 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Was Newsome is a slippery MP. And it's not easy, 380 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: right because you're going up against the Santis, and you're 381 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: going up against Sean Hannity and Fox News. I mean, 382 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: every single question was and the stats they put up 383 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: were designed to be like California bad, Florida good, yeah, 384 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: these are the facts exactly, exactly and so and it 385 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: was I mean literally every single question right. So he 386 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: is very good at just being like a classic politician. 387 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Anything they would hit him with, like they hit him 388 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: with crime stats that you look at and you're like, 389 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's going to handle this one. 390 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: But he was ready for it. He was like, all right, 391 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: let's focus in on these cities. Let's focus in on 392 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: the murder rate and how you have a worse murder 393 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: rate than we do. Let's talk about Parkland and use 394 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: that very emotional event to Land blows as well. I 395 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: mean partly the topic choice was very predictable. You know, 396 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about homelesses, we're going to talk 397 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: about crime, We're going to talk about like cost of 398 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: living and taxes. So he was able to be extremely prepared. 399 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: He's a talented guy. One thing that hit for me 400 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: in watching it is the fact that a lot of 401 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: the younger politicians like Beato and Corey Booker and Pete Boodagig, 402 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: they've modeled their speaking style after Obama in a way 403 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: that I don't think really works for anyone, but Obama 404 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: Newsome being a little bit older, he actually seems like 405 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: he models the cadence of Bill Clinton, good point, which 406 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: I think is more of a sort of like universally 407 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: effective speaking style. In any case, you're not going to 408 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: knock that guy off of his game. He's much more 409 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: comfortable on camera. That much is really clear. But maybe 410 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: this will be a surprise for people. I thought DeSantis 411 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: did fine. I think conservatives probably liked what he had 412 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: to say. I saw a lot of takes that were like, 413 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: I don't know why DeSantis even agreed to this, but 414 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: I do. This guy's down in the polls. He's got 415 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: nothing to lose. He needs attention, he needs some kind 416 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: of something around his campaign. And so, in a weird way, 417 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: if you're going to talk about winners and losers, I 418 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: actually kind of thought they both won because DeSantis just 419 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: needs attention and to prove he's up to the challenge 420 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: and can own a lib when he needs to. And 421 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: for Newsome, obviously, all he wants is to remain relevant 422 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: through this period when Biden is the nominee and be 423 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: able to keep himself in the conversation until next time around. 424 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you impressed a lot of people too 425 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: in terms of his debating skills. So I actually thought 426 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: this event kind of served them both pretty well. 427 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you said that, because that was going 428 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: to be my other test dollary, Why would he do this? 429 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: This was such a dis No. I thought it was 430 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: actually great for DeSantis. This is also a Rorshact test. 431 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: If you are a liberal, you're going to come away 432 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: thinking Governor Gavin Newsom one, and if you're a conservative, 433 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 2: you're going to come away thinking that Dysantis one. Because 434 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: both played to the most emotive and important issues for 435 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: their individual basis, unsurprisingly to their strength. And actually I 436 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: think did a good job that said. If we're looking 437 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: at it from an electoral perspective, one of the ways 438 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: that again Newsome was constantly able to get under Desanta's 439 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: skin was to use the Trump criticism against him, especially 440 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: on COVID. And that's what we're about to show you 441 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: here where DeSantis consistently made COVID lockdown school policy. I 442 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: think it's a great effect to be able to hit 443 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: new some but Newsom, in his showing again his political skill, 444 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: it hits back and he was like, no, you were 445 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: a lockdown governor, you were a mask. In September, so 446 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: let's take a listen to some of that. 447 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: You passed an emergency declaration before the state of California. 448 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: Did you closed down your beach as, your bars, your restaurants. 449 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 4: It's a fact you had quarantines. You had quarantines. You 450 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: had checkpoints all over the state of Colgi of Florida. 451 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: By the way, I didn't say that Donald Trump laid 452 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 4: you out on this dead to right. You did that. 453 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 4: You followed science, You followed Fauci. He followed science, He 454 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 4: followed fout you. You were promoting one leaf hold on, 455 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 4: you were promoting vaccines. You were promoting vaccines. You even 456 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 4: wore a mask in September. It's if it's okay with you, 457 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: we'll do Why do we do this in a way 458 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 4: where we both can have Why were you so long 459 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 4: you bore outside September twenty twenty. He did all of 460 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: that is until he decided to fall prey to the 461 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: fringe of his party. And as a consequence of that, 462 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 4: Ron tens of thousands of people lost their lives. True, 463 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: the equivalent if I've had to your policies, the equivalent 464 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 4: of ten nine to elevens. Tens of thousands of people 465 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: lost their lives and for. 466 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: What Roy Clearly he's like no, no, no, no, you change 467 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: your mind later on. You uh, you know, pursued some 468 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: of the Fauci policy or whatever March th September because 469 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: you were following along this same line. That's something that 470 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: Trump himself has used against you the best, you know, 471 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: possible parry on all of that. So from that perspective 472 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: again with Newsom, I thought that his single best ability 473 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: was to take uncomfortable moments and to either take control 474 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: of the debate, laugh at Sean Hannity, immediately start questioning 475 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: DeSantis himself and just ignore the criticismspect he never looked ruffle. 476 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: And this is where I want to come back to this. 477 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: Newsom loves the game. He is a politician who is 478 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: comfortable in his own shark skin. And that is something 479 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: you either have that or you don't. You know, budhaj Edge, 480 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: the rest of them, they all look a little bit 481 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: under the lights, not ready for primetime at a certain point. 482 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: You know, Newsom's been in the game for twenty years, 483 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: and more importantly, he just loves it. And you can't 484 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: take away that smile for somebody who loves to be 485 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: in the middle of the arena. Also the fact that 486 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: he was against not only DeSantis but on Hannity and 487 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: came with structure such a structural disadvantage and still came 488 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: away relatively unscathed. From a optics point of view, that's 489 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: really good. But I have to come back to this. 490 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: I thought it was good for DeSantis net neet. He 491 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: got some good U he got some good some clips. 492 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: Out of it. 493 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: He's going to go viral amongst the right right wing people. 494 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: I bet he'll get some more. I think he's going 495 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: to get some more you know, donations and things out 496 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: of this. Look, let's face the guy's not going to 497 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: be the GOP nominee barring unforeseen circumstances, so this was 498 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: probably the best thing for him to do. 499 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, if you're just putting the ideology aside. And 500 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a Gavin Newsom fan whatsoever, so I think 501 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm able to watch it and just think about how 502 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: it's probably landing and who's more politically skilled, Like, there's 503 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: no question Gavin Newsom is more politically skilled than run 504 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: De Santas. It's really not even close. You know. DeSantis 505 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: had these couple of talking points about like people fleeing 506 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: your state. And yeah, he looked more ruffled obviously his 507 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: face like, let's not even talk about his face. Every 508 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: time the camera's on him. It's awkward. He doesn't know 509 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: what to do with it, right, It is a thing. 510 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: And Newsom's up there looking supremely confident taking over as 511 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: moderator at times. You know, in terms of doing the 512 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: like traditional politician thing, you're not going to find someone 513 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: much better than Gavin Newsom. So so in any case, 514 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's served both of their interests 515 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: pretty well. But you know, Desanti's had some some decent 516 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: moments in Sager. You flagged this one which was hearkens 517 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: back to what has been the biggest critique of the 518 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: Newsom administration and helped to launch that recall campaign against him, 519 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: which he ended up defeating pretty easily, but did gain 520 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: some traction there on the ground was that he had 521 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: a different set of rules for himself and his conduct 522 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: during the pandemic versus all of the you know, all 523 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: of the underclass and all of the rules that were 524 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: applied to them. Desant has hit him pretty effectively on that. 525 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen, they. 526 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: Taxed too much, They regulate too much, they have a 527 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 3: political agenda. It's not a good climate for business. They've 528 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: lost a lot of companies. A lot of companies have 529 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: moved to Texas. We have had some to Florida, but 530 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: they've lost a lot of companies to Texas because they're 531 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: not doing a good job looking out for folks and 532 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: not creating a good business environment. And you know, when 533 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: I have people that come to Florida, they tell me, 534 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: you know, you guys actually want us to succeed in Florida, 535 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: and they feel like when they're in California, they don't 536 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: want business to succeeding in the Tampa Bay Rays. Well, actually, yeah, 537 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting point with Disney, because I 538 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: had Disney opened during COVID and we made him a 539 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: fortune and we saved a lot of jobs. You had 540 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: Disney closed inexplicably for over a year. You were not 541 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 3: following science. You were a lockdown governor. You did a 542 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: lot of damage to your people. You had more kids 543 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: locked out of school for a longer period of time 544 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 3: in California than anywhere else in the country. It was 545 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 3: the working class kids, it was the middle income kids. 546 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: His kids were in private school. They were in class. 547 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: The teachers union. He is owned by the teachers union. 548 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: You will never cross the teachers. 549 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: Soccer. What'd you think of that moment? 550 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's his best talking point. He's like, 551 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: I did this one way, I did this the other way. 552 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: I thought his second best talking point was about people 553 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: who were leaving the state. 554 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: I have. 555 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: This is again where I have to marvel though at Newsom. 556 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: Newsom somehow jiu jitsued and was like, well, per capita, 557 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: more people are leaving Florida. It's like, dude, that's no. 558 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: His talking point, which is which checks out apparently, is 559 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: that more people have left Florida go to California than 560 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: have left California to go to Florida. 561 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: I agree, but on a per capita basis, whereas Desanta's 562 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: talking about the overall number. Again, in my opinion, that's bullshit, because. 563 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: Muddy the water is enough, and because the other thing 564 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: is the other thing is prolley. A lot of Californians. 565 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: They're not going to Florida there gorn of Texas, right, 566 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: or they're going to Arizona or what Nevada or whatevertly, 567 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: and so he was, but he came prepared. He knew 568 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: this was going to be a big talking point. All 569 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: he needed to do was muddy the waters and be like, no, actually, 570 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: we're getting more Florida residents. I don't know what you 571 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: talk you're talking about and then the average person is like, 572 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 573 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: The average person's like, what what does politifacts say? 574 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: Oh? 575 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: Wait, per capita? 576 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: What is it? 577 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure what that means? What's for breakfast? 578 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: Whereas I'm watching this and I'm just like, I can't 579 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: believe that he somehow did that. But it is his 580 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: best talking point, no question. I mean, this is why 581 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: DeSantis ultimately turned the state red is. People were very 582 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: satisfied with the way that he handled the pandemic and school. 583 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: That's the best single, like the best single mirror that 584 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: he can hold up against Newsom. There's no question that 585 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: the Newsom approach was a massive failure. Especially, and this 586 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: was another important moment that he would sprinkle through, was 587 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: about the literacy rates Florida versus California, in school versus 588 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: not in school. Florida still though dipping below unfortunately just 589 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: because school closure, just even the small amount that did 590 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: occur there, it was enough to cause ramifications, but it 591 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: brings it back to that point. I thought, though, that 592 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: DeSantis's weakest moment, and this is the one everyone keeps 593 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: his facial structure and all that. I agree it's not good, 594 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: but that's ever present. I thought his weakest electoral moment 595 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: was on abortion. He was DeSantis is very comfortable, school closure, COVID, 596 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: culture war. I actually thought he won either or drew 597 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: on every single one of those. He threw Newsom on 598 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: his heels whenever it came to a lot of the 599 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: culture war curriculum stuff, but he was rattle as hell 600 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: whenever it came to abortion. You could really see Newsom 601 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: hit his stride during that portion of the debate. 602 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: Make a listen, but he respectfully, this is an important conversation. 603 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: Will you or will you not support? 604 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: And Sean, why didn't you? 605 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: Will you not support? Why did short bans on your desk? 606 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: You couldn't answer that in any other context, No, Sean, 607 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: not an expert gave. But with American people should know 608 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: this all answered for Roun. DeSantis can't answer it. He 609 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: will sign that extreme. Okay, let me move on. 610 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: So again news from taking control questioning DeSantis, DeSantis not 611 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: confident at all in a six week ban, doesn't know 612 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: what to do. Most of the Republicans pro lifers have 613 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: been trying to pivot this about late term abortion. But 614 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: the truth is is that late term abortion is just 615 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: not you know, electorally salient. So for me, that was 616 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: the most electoral problem for DeSantis in that entire debate. 617 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: And it just shows you the you know, the albatross 618 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: around their neck where they don't know how to handle 619 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: this issue, and that that showed me again Newsism's political 620 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: skill where look, you know, I would like for some 621 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: of these cultural issues to be more say, but the 622 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: truth is it's like they're not at all as we 623 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: have seen when you're put up against abortion, and he 624 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: he used the knife that he had very very effectively 625 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: and going after DeSantis an abortion. 626 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also just you see his level of confidence 627 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: up there, even being two to one against him being 628 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: on Fox News, he is taking control of the whole situation. 629 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: And the other thing I would point out about that 630 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: moment is I'm pretty sure that was the only even 631 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: slightly adversarial question that Sean Hannity asked of Rond DeSantis, 632 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: which is like, why did you switch from fifteen week 633 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: band to six week ban. That was as harsh as 634 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: it got for him. And even that little bit of 635 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: adversarial questioning he sort of crumbles under. And it's one 636 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: of these things that it's like, you know you're going 637 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: to get that question, like you know this is going 638 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: to be Maybe he didn't expect to get it from 639 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: Fox News, I don't know, but he should certainly expect 640 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: that he's got to have an answer for this on 641 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: the campaign trill, whether it's on Fox News or elsewhere. 642 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: And you could just see that Newsom much steadier on 643 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: his feet there. I mean, that is a clear place 644 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: of strength for the Democratic Party at this point. But 645 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: what was impressive to me about Newsom Hogun I'm not 646 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: a fan of I think he's slippery. I think he's 647 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: done some horrible things with regard to labor. I think 648 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: he's completely beholden to the donor class in California. Anytime 649 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: labor priorities come up against Hollywood or Silicon Valley, he's 650 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: back in Hollywood. He's back in Silicon Valley. So it's 651 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: not like I like this guy, but you got to 652 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: admire the game he was able to take even the 653 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: most difficult things about crime in California, or about people 654 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: leaving California, or about the tax rate in cal whatever, 655 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: in front of a conservative audience and at the very 656 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: least muddy the waters and do it very confidently and 657 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: actually win on a number of these points in very 658 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: very difficult circumstances. So I think he handled himself well. 659 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't help but be impressed. And again, DeSantis, 660 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: he didn't embarrass himself. I think he did fine. I 661 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of conservatives in enjoyed what he had 662 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: to say. His campaign right now, Sager, we got to 663 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: admit it's like on the ropes. I mean, not only 664 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: because he's still so far down from Trump and it 665 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: continues to kind of like be a wider and wider gap, 666 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: but Nikki Haley just got the Coke endorsement and all 667 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: of the villions that come with that, and all of 668 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: the donor class sort of consolidation that comes with that, 669 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: and so he's really in kind of a corner desperate 670 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: situation right now. He's got to do whatever he can 671 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: to try to get some attention, try to have some moments, 672 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: and try to rescue himself from a permanent political irrelevancy. 673 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: Honestly, absolutely right. It was a right call on his part. 674 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: I think he'll come out better. This might be one 675 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 2: of the high water marks for him, certainly whenever we're 676 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 2: looking back on all of that. But it was interesting. 677 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: I would like to see more of it. I actually would. 678 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: I kind of enjoyed it, to be honest with you. 679 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: The one thing I wish, Crystal was that DeSantis wasn't 680 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: running for president. It would have changed the stakes and 681 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: it actually would have made it more policy focused, and 682 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: I would have enjoyed that more so. But at the 683 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: same time, who's going to agree to be doing this 684 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: if they're not presidential aspirants. 685 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: So Kyle made the comment, which I think is it 686 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: kind of felt like a throwback, like back to like 687 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: an Obama Romney debate or you know, something like that, 688 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: like before Trump just scrambled all the circuitry and like 689 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: injected this whole other chaotic force into politics. It was like, 690 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: you know, you can imagine a parallel universe where these 691 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: are the two nominees and you're having this sort of 692 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's partisan, and it's silly at times, 693 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: and parts of it are disgusting. Et cetera. But it's 694 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: this sort of like quote unquote normal political debate that 695 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: is what it felt like. It felt like kind of 696 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: a throwback. 697 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: I agree. Okay, guys, we will see you all later. 698 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed this Friday morning update, and we 699 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: will see you on Monday.