1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,035 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. It 2 00:00:22,155 --> 00:00:25,755 Speaker 1: is now time to arrest Donald Trump and detain him 3 00:00:25,875 --> 00:00:29,555 Speaker 1: at GITMO. By this point, it is impossible to be 4 00:00:29,595 --> 00:00:32,995 Speaker 1: shocked anymore. But Trump's attorneys have now stochastically threatened the 5 00:00:33,035 --> 00:00:41,595 Speaker 1: Supreme Court and again threatened the nation with quote bedlam unquote, 6 00:00:42,075 --> 00:00:46,915 Speaker 1: oh and chaos, chaos, and bedlam in their filing to 7 00:00:47,035 --> 00:00:50,675 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court demanding that it overrule the Colorado fourteenth 8 00:00:50,715 --> 00:00:54,435 Speaker 1: Amendment disqualification finding and similar attempts in other states and 9 00:00:54,475 --> 00:00:58,035 Speaker 1: in other court cases. Trump's lawyers last night wrote that 10 00:00:58,075 --> 00:01:03,555 Speaker 1: the bids to enforce the constitution quote threatened to disenfranchise 11 00:01:03,635 --> 00:01:08,035 Speaker 1: tens of millions of Americans and promise to unleash chaos 12 00:01:08,115 --> 00:01:15,715 Speaker 1: and bedlam unquote. Trump's stochastic threats of terror, of bloodshed, 13 00:01:15,995 --> 00:01:21,675 Speaker 1: of violence, of disorder, and now of chaos and bedlam 14 00:01:22,115 --> 00:01:27,635 Speaker 1: are so numerous that there is no accurate counting of them. 15 00:01:28,035 --> 00:01:30,995 Speaker 1: They are, in fact so numerous that Trump is now 16 00:01:31,115 --> 00:01:35,675 Speaker 1: into reruns. Trump January ninth. They feel this is the 17 00:01:35,675 --> 00:01:37,875 Speaker 1: way they're going to try and win, and that's not 18 00:01:37,995 --> 00:01:39,795 Speaker 1: the way it goes. It will be bedlam in the 19 00:01:39,835 --> 00:01:44,115 Speaker 1: country if you said that, and then nine days later 20 00:01:44,195 --> 00:01:47,955 Speaker 1: your lawyers told the Supreme Court of the United States 21 00:01:47,995 --> 00:01:50,835 Speaker 1: that if it did not rule in your favor, that 22 00:01:51,115 --> 00:01:55,795 Speaker 1: chaos and bedlam would be unleashed. And you made sure 23 00:01:55,835 --> 00:01:58,635 Speaker 1: you put the word promise in there before those other 24 00:01:58,755 --> 00:02:03,715 Speaker 1: loaded words. You would be arrested for making terroristic threats, 25 00:02:04,275 --> 00:02:08,075 Speaker 1: especially if you were now making them on an average 26 00:02:08,115 --> 00:02:13,995 Speaker 1: of one every ten days or so. I no longer 27 00:02:14,235 --> 00:02:20,995 Speaker 1: care about the institutional consequences long term or even this November. 28 00:02:21,675 --> 00:02:26,195 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln did not care about the institutional consequences long 29 00:02:26,315 --> 00:02:29,315 Speaker 1: term when he had to count on the elasticity of 30 00:02:29,315 --> 00:02:33,115 Speaker 1: those institutions in order to save this nation by inventing 31 00:02:33,155 --> 00:02:37,235 Speaker 1: things like war powers and ignoring Supreme Court rulings in 32 00:02:37,315 --> 00:02:39,875 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty one and sixty two and three and four 33 00:02:39,875 --> 00:02:44,395 Speaker 1: and five. Subsequent generations were left to deal with the 34 00:02:44,395 --> 00:02:47,635 Speaker 1: consequences of those things, and none of them have shirked 35 00:02:47,675 --> 00:02:52,995 Speaker 1: that responsibility nor suggested Lincoln was wrong. We are at 36 00:02:53,155 --> 00:02:57,995 Speaker 1: that point again where the future of this country requires 37 00:02:58,155 --> 00:03:02,355 Speaker 1: a willingness if the conservative traditions will serve only to 38 00:03:02,595 --> 00:03:06,795 Speaker 1: enable a madman to droyd the United States to go 39 00:03:06,995 --> 00:03:12,475 Speaker 1: beyond the conservative traditions. Donald Trump is a terrorist. He 40 00:03:12,595 --> 00:03:18,915 Speaker 1: is threatening sweeping political violence, chaos, and bedlam if he 41 00:03:19,075 --> 00:03:24,195 Speaker 1: does not get his way, that is by definition terrorism. 42 00:03:24,715 --> 00:03:29,915 Speaker 1: He should be detained today. I believe we have an 43 00:03:29,995 --> 00:03:33,635 Speaker 1: off the mainland facility where we have kept people which 44 00:03:33,755 --> 00:03:39,155 Speaker 1: previous presidential administrations have determined, without slowing themselves down and 45 00:03:39,235 --> 00:03:44,635 Speaker 1: worrying overdue process, were terrorists. I believe there is probably 46 00:03:44,635 --> 00:03:48,435 Speaker 1: a current equivalent of the black sites that previous presidential 47 00:03:48,475 --> 00:03:52,075 Speaker 1: administrations have used when the level of complexity was raised 48 00:03:52,115 --> 00:03:54,915 Speaker 1: by the fact that the terrorist suspect was also an 49 00:03:54,915 --> 00:04:00,835 Speaker 1: American citizen. The Biden administration should use these processes, these precedents, 50 00:04:01,035 --> 00:04:07,315 Speaker 1: these locations, and use them now. There certainly will be consequences, 51 00:04:07,355 --> 00:04:11,835 Speaker 1: serious and untold and perhaps at this point unimaginable and bluntly, 52 00:04:11,995 --> 00:04:14,435 Speaker 1: no matter what the hell they are, they will be 53 00:04:14,435 --> 00:04:18,675 Speaker 1: better and easier to address than letting Trump continue to 54 00:04:18,875 --> 00:04:22,755 Speaker 1: threaten the nation and perhaps regain the power to control 55 00:04:22,795 --> 00:04:26,715 Speaker 1: the nation and end all semblance of representative government in 56 00:04:26,795 --> 00:04:31,995 Speaker 1: the nation. Dealing with Trump in Gitmo in twenty twenty 57 00:04:32,035 --> 00:04:35,515 Speaker 1: four will be a hell of a lot easier than 58 00:04:35,595 --> 00:04:39,515 Speaker 1: dealing with Trump in the White House. In twenty twenty 59 00:04:39,595 --> 00:04:50,275 Speaker 1: five until he decides when to leave. The irony of 60 00:04:50,315 --> 00:04:56,595 Speaker 1: timing That filing comes barely sixteen hours after two utterly 61 00:04:56,715 --> 00:05:05,715 Speaker 1: unexpected and presumably utterly unknowing confessions by Trump. Quote a 62 00:05:05,835 --> 00:05:10,595 Speaker 1: president of the United States must have full immunity, even 63 00:05:10,755 --> 00:05:14,595 Speaker 1: events that quote cross the line unquote must fall under 64 00:05:14,635 --> 00:05:19,635 Speaker 1: total immunity. Trump panicking, trying to fight through the fog 65 00:05:19,715 --> 00:05:22,955 Speaker 1: of his disintegrating mind to convince himself he will not 66 00:05:23,075 --> 00:05:27,075 Speaker 1: die in prison posting on social media literally at two 67 00:05:27,115 --> 00:05:30,835 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, but in so doing accomplishing something. 68 00:05:31,035 --> 00:05:36,435 Speaker 1: I don't think people are recognizing that social media post 69 00:05:36,955 --> 00:05:43,155 Speaker 1: about crossing the line and full immunity, that is a confession. 70 00:05:44,715 --> 00:05:47,715 Speaker 1: And yes, the obvious non confession things are still true. 71 00:05:47,795 --> 00:05:50,995 Speaker 1: Combine this with his lawyer's arguments to the DC Appeals 72 00:05:51,035 --> 00:05:53,515 Speaker 1: Court and now the Supreme Court, and yes, Trump is 73 00:05:53,595 --> 00:05:57,555 Speaker 1: arguing a president could order an ex president killed or 74 00:05:57,635 --> 00:06:01,395 Speaker 1: you killed, and he would never be prosecuted for it. 75 00:06:04,115 --> 00:06:08,835 Speaker 1: And yes, what he describes is not a president's immunity 76 00:06:09,235 --> 00:06:12,595 Speaker 1: but a dictator's immunity. And yes, no president has ever 77 00:06:12,715 --> 00:06:16,435 Speaker 1: had total immunity, no president has ever needed total immunity. 78 00:06:16,595 --> 00:06:20,755 Speaker 1: Even Richard Nixon, who infamously said, and he was three 79 00:06:20,835 --> 00:06:23,235 Speaker 1: years out of office when he said it, well, when 80 00:06:23,275 --> 00:06:25,955 Speaker 1: the president does it, that means that it is not illegal. 81 00:06:26,275 --> 00:06:29,235 Speaker 1: Even Nixon came back sixteen days later in a twenty 82 00:06:29,235 --> 00:06:31,915 Speaker 1: five hundred word statement to the old newspaper of the 83 00:06:32,035 --> 00:06:35,155 Speaker 1: Washington Star, and he also said, quote, I do not 84 00:06:35,315 --> 00:06:38,515 Speaker 1: believe and would not argue that a president is above 85 00:06:38,595 --> 00:06:42,475 Speaker 1: the law. Of course he is not. And Nixon then 86 00:06:42,515 --> 00:06:46,075 Speaker 1: went on to say he meant legal latitude in emergencies 87 00:06:47,075 --> 00:06:51,475 Speaker 1: like Lincoln during the Civil War, if you've heard that 88 00:06:51,515 --> 00:06:56,795 Speaker 1: from anybody recently. But lost in the horror of that 89 00:06:56,955 --> 00:07:03,075 Speaker 1: Trump post is the confession in Trump's post. It is, 90 00:07:03,115 --> 00:07:06,275 Speaker 1: in fact two confessions. The first to the fact that 91 00:07:06,315 --> 00:07:10,075 Speaker 1: even he realizes that there is not now anything like 92 00:07:10,235 --> 00:07:14,555 Speaker 1: presidential immunity, and he wants it established. And all his 93 00:07:14,755 --> 00:07:17,435 Speaker 1: language in that post is in the future tense or 94 00:07:17,475 --> 00:07:20,715 Speaker 1: the hypothetical. And forgive me for parsing the rantings of 95 00:07:20,755 --> 00:07:24,195 Speaker 1: a madman, but this is a confession that what he 96 00:07:24,275 --> 00:07:27,115 Speaker 1: is now asking a district court to give him, and 97 00:07:27,195 --> 00:07:29,875 Speaker 1: what he will almost certainly then ask the Supreme Court 98 00:07:29,915 --> 00:07:32,595 Speaker 1: to give him if he has not killed its members. 99 00:07:32,635 --> 00:07:35,875 Speaker 1: By then, what he is going to ask them does 100 00:07:36,075 --> 00:07:40,795 Speaker 1: not currently exist. Quote. A president of the United States 101 00:07:40,915 --> 00:07:44,475 Speaker 1: must have full immunity, without which it would be impossible 102 00:07:44,515 --> 00:07:49,675 Speaker 1: for him her to properly function. Any mistake, even if 103 00:07:49,715 --> 00:07:54,115 Speaker 1: well intended, would be met with almost certain indictment by 104 00:07:54,115 --> 00:07:59,795 Speaker 1: the opposing party Unquote. Firstly, no previous former president has 105 00:07:59,835 --> 00:08:02,915 Speaker 1: ever been indicted with the Department of Justice under the 106 00:08:02,995 --> 00:08:06,035 Speaker 1: other parti's control or under the control of his own party. 107 00:08:06,195 --> 00:08:11,035 Speaker 1: Nixon expected to be expected to be indicted by a 108 00:08:11,115 --> 00:08:17,555 Speaker 1: DOJ run by Republicans. Nixon was pardoned. Probably most presidents 109 00:08:17,555 --> 00:08:20,475 Speaker 1: have broken the law. George W. Bush certainly did with torture. 110 00:08:21,515 --> 00:08:25,475 Speaker 1: Obama confirmed before his own inauguration that his administration would 111 00:08:25,475 --> 00:08:29,515 Speaker 1: not pursue anybody for torturing prisoners. Reagan broke the law 112 00:08:29,555 --> 00:08:32,715 Speaker 1: and around contras certainly in other areas. Probably what Trump 113 00:08:32,795 --> 00:08:36,315 Speaker 1: is saying here is that from now on, any president 114 00:08:36,355 --> 00:08:38,715 Speaker 1: who breaks the law will be prosecuted as an act 115 00:08:38,755 --> 00:08:42,595 Speaker 1: of political revenge and on the facts. He's mistaken, of course, 116 00:08:42,635 --> 00:08:45,395 Speaker 1: but the premise is not insane. Certainly, it is not 117 00:08:45,595 --> 00:08:48,235 Speaker 1: as insane as the previous version of this claim that 118 00:08:48,355 --> 00:08:55,715 Speaker 1: all presidents have had immunity. This is something different. He 119 00:08:55,875 --> 00:09:01,715 Speaker 1: is asking for something for the future. There is also 120 00:09:01,795 --> 00:09:04,315 Speaker 1: something else in those opening two sentences that is of importance, 121 00:09:04,315 --> 00:09:05,955 Speaker 1: But I want come back to that separately, and I 122 00:09:05,995 --> 00:09:08,195 Speaker 1: will do so in a moment. To resume quoting what 123 00:09:08,355 --> 00:09:11,795 Speaker 1: might be the most revelatory Trump statement ever quote. Even 124 00:09:11,835 --> 00:09:16,155 Speaker 1: events that cross the line must fall under total immunity, 125 00:09:16,275 --> 00:09:18,635 Speaker 1: or it will be years of trauma trying to determine 126 00:09:18,675 --> 00:09:23,115 Speaker 1: good from bad. There must be certainty. Again, you can 127 00:09:23,155 --> 00:09:26,435 Speaker 1: take this as another threat or as a prediction. Either way, 128 00:09:26,555 --> 00:09:29,795 Speaker 1: it's not crazy. It may be wrong, but it is 129 00:09:29,835 --> 00:09:34,875 Speaker 1: not crazy. Resuming the quotation example, you can't stop police 130 00:09:34,915 --> 00:09:37,875 Speaker 1: from doing the job of strong and effective crime prevention 131 00:09:38,035 --> 00:09:40,915 Speaker 1: because you want to guard against the occasional rogue cop 132 00:09:41,035 --> 00:09:43,955 Speaker 1: or bad apple. Sometimes you just have to live with 133 00:09:44,155 --> 00:09:48,155 Speaker 1: great but slightly imperfect. All presidents must have complete and 134 00:09:48,195 --> 00:09:51,755 Speaker 1: total presidential immunity, or the authority and decisiveness of a 135 00:09:51,795 --> 00:09:54,715 Speaker 1: president of the United States will be stripped and gone forever. 136 00:09:54,955 --> 00:09:58,715 Speaker 1: Hopefully this will be an easy decision. God bless the 137 00:09:58,755 --> 00:10:03,795 Speaker 1: Supreme Court unquote the court he would threaten with chaos 138 00:10:03,835 --> 00:10:10,435 Speaker 1: and bedlam less than a day later ignore the self congratulation, 139 00:10:10,555 --> 00:10:13,515 Speaker 1: the self pity, and his new mandatory dragging of God 140 00:10:13,675 --> 00:10:16,155 Speaker 1: into this, which is part of the Trump twenty twenty 141 00:10:16,155 --> 00:10:20,235 Speaker 1: four god con roll out I mentioned earlier in the week. 142 00:10:20,835 --> 00:10:23,555 Speaker 1: To me, the keys in this are one that he 143 00:10:23,835 --> 00:10:27,115 Speaker 1: posits presidential immunity is something that does not currently exist, 144 00:10:27,875 --> 00:10:30,115 Speaker 1: and whether he knows it or not, that means that 145 00:10:30,155 --> 00:10:32,795 Speaker 1: if it were to be established as he hopes, it 146 00:10:32,875 --> 00:10:36,395 Speaker 1: could not be done so retroactively. It would not apply 147 00:10:37,115 --> 00:10:40,595 Speaker 1: to the Trump presidency of twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one. 148 00:10:40,915 --> 00:10:44,075 Speaker 1: So that's the first confession. Whether he meant to confess 149 00:10:45,635 --> 00:10:49,435 Speaker 1: or he did not mean to confess, he confessed. He 150 00:10:49,475 --> 00:10:52,435 Speaker 1: confessed there is not presidential immunity. He just wants there 151 00:10:52,475 --> 00:10:57,155 Speaker 1: to be. The second confession is subtler. Let me read 152 00:10:57,195 --> 00:11:00,915 Speaker 1: its two components. A president of the United States must 153 00:11:00,915 --> 00:11:04,235 Speaker 1: have full immunity, without which it would be impossible for 154 00:11:04,315 --> 00:11:10,875 Speaker 1: him her to properly function any mistake, even if well intended, 155 00:11:11,515 --> 00:11:18,475 Speaker 1: et cetera mistake. There is the implication here that Trump 156 00:11:18,515 --> 00:11:25,875 Speaker 1: may be trying to pass off his crimes as mistakes. Outlandish, 157 00:11:25,955 --> 00:11:28,435 Speaker 1: of course, but even for him to approach confessing to 158 00:11:28,635 --> 00:11:34,515 Speaker 1: mere mistakes is startling mistakes. January sixth was not a 159 00:11:34,515 --> 00:11:39,315 Speaker 1: beautiful day. There weren't good people on both sides in Charlottesville. 160 00:11:39,475 --> 00:11:44,755 Speaker 1: Trying to get the vice president hanged was an oopsie. 161 00:11:44,915 --> 00:11:48,035 Speaker 1: Also note that Trump later in this post compares himself 162 00:11:48,075 --> 00:11:51,675 Speaker 1: to the quote occasional rogue copper bad apple and says 163 00:11:51,715 --> 00:11:57,835 Speaker 1: you just have to live with great but slightly imperfect unquote. 164 00:11:57,875 --> 00:12:01,235 Speaker 1: In anybody else, this would read like a mass murderer 165 00:12:01,275 --> 00:12:04,235 Speaker 1: claiming he only meant the first ten or twelve. Come on, 166 00:12:05,155 --> 00:12:08,435 Speaker 1: But coming from Trump, I'm not ignoring his attempt to 167 00:12:08,475 --> 00:12:11,595 Speaker 1: pass off a threat against Biden and Obama and Clinton 168 00:12:11,875 --> 00:12:15,275 Speaker 1: as some civic minded plea. But coming from Trump, this 169 00:12:15,355 --> 00:12:22,595 Speaker 1: almost reads like borderline self awareness and a plea bargain. 170 00:12:23,555 --> 00:12:26,315 Speaker 1: Don't send me to prison or disqualify me from the ballot. 171 00:12:26,595 --> 00:12:31,195 Speaker 1: I'm just a rogue cop, a bad apple, great but 172 00:12:31,355 --> 00:12:38,115 Speaker 1: slightly imperfect. I made a mistake. Don't get me wrong. 173 00:12:39,075 --> 00:12:42,275 Speaker 1: I am not suggesting for a moment that Trump has 174 00:12:42,315 --> 00:12:48,955 Speaker 1: had an epiphany here, maybe a Freudian slip. The Supreme 175 00:12:48,995 --> 00:12:53,675 Speaker 1: Court filing threatening chaos and bedlam confirms no epiphanies round 176 00:12:53,675 --> 00:12:57,675 Speaker 1: this house. And we know offered a deal this minute, 177 00:12:57,875 --> 00:13:00,275 Speaker 1: in which he has to personally kill every member of 178 00:13:00,355 --> 00:13:04,435 Speaker 1: his own family, but he regains power and avoids prison. 179 00:13:05,115 --> 00:13:13,035 Speaker 1: He would do it before our first commercial break Elsewhere. 180 00:13:13,115 --> 00:13:17,115 Speaker 1: After weeks of letting, speculation and fear fill the news void, 181 00:13:17,195 --> 00:13:21,755 Speaker 1: Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fannie Willis has finally said 182 00:13:21,875 --> 00:13:24,835 Speaker 1: something about the accusation that could wreck the Trump case 183 00:13:24,915 --> 00:13:28,635 Speaker 1: there and what she has said is as explosive as 184 00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:31,955 Speaker 1: what was said about her. This charge from the wife 185 00:13:31,955 --> 00:13:34,395 Speaker 1: of the attorney Willis hired as a prosecutor in the 186 00:13:34,395 --> 00:13:37,155 Speaker 1: Trump case, that her husband and Willis were having an affair. 187 00:13:38,035 --> 00:13:42,795 Speaker 1: The wife, Joycelyn Wade, is quote using the legal process 188 00:13:42,795 --> 00:13:46,355 Speaker 1: to harass and embarrassed District Attorney Willis, and in doing so, 189 00:13:46,595 --> 00:13:51,875 Speaker 1: is obstructing and interfering with an ongoing criminal prosecution. The 190 00:13:51,915 --> 00:13:55,395 Speaker 1: filing to the court hearing the prosecutions continues, Missus Wade 191 00:13:55,475 --> 00:13:59,595 Speaker 1: quote has conspired with interested parties in the criminal election 192 00:13:59,715 --> 00:14:04,675 Speaker 1: interference case to use the civil discovery process to annoy, embarrass, 193 00:14:04,475 --> 00:14:10,275 Speaker 1: and opress District Attorney Willis. The filing also says Willis 194 00:14:10,315 --> 00:14:13,675 Speaker 1: knows nothing about the Wade's marriage except that both signs 195 00:14:13,675 --> 00:14:17,875 Speaker 1: have filed legal paperwork indicating the marriage was irretrievably broken 196 00:14:18,595 --> 00:14:22,555 Speaker 1: after Missus Wade had an affair, and that the district 197 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:24,675 Speaker 1: attorney should not have to give a deposition for the 198 00:14:24,675 --> 00:14:29,155 Speaker 1: divorce case. The filing was made after the judge hearing 199 00:14:29,155 --> 00:14:32,795 Speaker 1: all of this, Scott McAfee Again, Scott McAfee, the only 200 00:14:33,035 --> 00:14:37,915 Speaker 1: judge in the Atlanta, Georgia area, demanded a written response 201 00:14:37,955 --> 00:14:41,355 Speaker 1: from Fannie Willis by February second, and scheduled an evidentiary 202 00:14:41,395 --> 00:14:47,995 Speaker 1: hearing for thirteen days after that. Willis makes no denial 203 00:14:48,195 --> 00:14:49,915 Speaker 1: of an affair. On the other hand, that doesn't need 204 00:14:49,955 --> 00:14:53,075 Speaker 1: to be one. What there is is the implication that 205 00:14:53,115 --> 00:14:56,635 Speaker 1: the defendant who brought all this up and then questioned 206 00:14:56,635 --> 00:15:00,275 Speaker 1: the entire validity of the prosecution, the one time Trump 207 00:15:00,275 --> 00:15:05,275 Speaker 1: flunky Mike Roman, could now face additional charges use the 208 00:15:05,315 --> 00:15:11,315 Speaker 1: phrase obstructing and interfering with an ongoing criminal prosecution. Additional 209 00:15:11,395 --> 00:15:16,235 Speaker 1: charges against Roman, charges against Missus Wade are implied, but 210 00:15:16,275 --> 00:15:20,035 Speaker 1: none have been filed. On the other hand, in Washington, 211 00:15:20,115 --> 00:15:24,075 Speaker 1: Trump's stall in the election subversion case gained an unfortunate 212 00:15:24,155 --> 00:15:27,515 Speaker 1: legal stamp of approval. Judge Chutkins said no, she would 213 00:15:27,595 --> 00:15:30,395 Speaker 1: not be setting pre trial deadlines based on the idea 214 00:15:30,475 --> 00:15:34,555 Speaker 1: that Trump's lawyers should be preparing everything now anyway during 215 00:15:34,595 --> 00:15:38,355 Speaker 1: the freeze over the presidential immunity bullshit in case they 216 00:15:38,435 --> 00:15:42,395 Speaker 1: lose it. He has won a delay. Regardless of what 217 00:15:42,515 --> 00:15:46,315 Speaker 1: happens to the presidential immunity claim, it will be weeks, 218 00:15:47,555 --> 00:15:50,635 Speaker 1: It might even be months. It certainly means that if 219 00:15:50,635 --> 00:15:53,795 Speaker 1: you bought the official trial date, the start date of 220 00:15:53,835 --> 00:15:56,675 Speaker 1: March fourth for the election subversion case and the Jack 221 00:15:56,715 --> 00:16:00,155 Speaker 1: Smith prosecution, if you took March fourth in the office pool, 222 00:16:00,475 --> 00:16:04,675 Speaker 1: you've already lost. Back in New York, where Judge can 223 00:16:04,715 --> 00:16:07,155 Speaker 1: happen did not jail Trump for contempt, and where Trump 224 00:16:07,155 --> 00:16:09,715 Speaker 1: did not return yesterday for another day of daring him 225 00:16:09,755 --> 00:16:12,555 Speaker 1: to do it, one begins to wonder if Alina Habba 226 00:16:12,715 --> 00:16:17,675 Speaker 1: is actually an anti Trump plant, that person is an idiot. 227 00:16:18,755 --> 00:16:23,835 Speaker 1: Per Gadfly reporter Matthew Russell Lee of Inner City Press, Judge, 228 00:16:23,995 --> 00:16:29,435 Speaker 1: you've taken enough time on this haba. May I be heard, Judge, No, haba, 229 00:16:29,675 --> 00:16:32,675 Speaker 1: I can't ask about them with all due respect, Judge, 230 00:16:32,715 --> 00:16:38,595 Speaker 1: with all due respect, when I rule, you go on haba, 231 00:16:39,035 --> 00:16:43,995 Speaker 1: so do you. Egen Carroll's lawyer objection. Judge sustained stricken 232 00:16:44,395 --> 00:16:52,035 Speaker 1: haba on what basis? Judge? Move on later, Haba to 233 00:16:52,155 --> 00:16:56,475 Speaker 1: Egen Carroll, and you've been on left leaning platforms. Carol's 234 00:16:56,515 --> 00:17:01,795 Speaker 1: lawyer objection. Judge sustained Haba. Are they left leaning? Judge? 235 00:17:02,195 --> 00:17:07,475 Speaker 1: Did you not hear me? Once again? I can fake 236 00:17:07,595 --> 00:17:16,835 Speaker 1: being smart? No, no, you can't. Others maybe you miss Haber, No, 237 00:17:18,835 --> 00:17:29,555 Speaker 1: not at all. Trial continues Monday. Also of interest here, 238 00:17:29,635 --> 00:17:33,075 Speaker 1: the Republican Plant Group, led by Joe Lieberman, No scruples. 239 00:17:33,995 --> 00:17:37,795 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I wrote that down wrong, no labels. The 240 00:17:37,915 --> 00:17:41,475 Speaker 1: Republican Plant Group, No Labels reaches out to Nikki Haley 241 00:17:41,835 --> 00:17:45,675 Speaker 1: to be their presidential candidate, and she actually says no, thanks, 242 00:17:45,715 --> 00:17:51,635 Speaker 1: no scruples. That's next. This is countdown. This is countdown 243 00:17:52,675 --> 00:18:03,955 Speaker 1: with Keith Olberman o scripts to the news, some headlines, 244 00:18:03,995 --> 00:18:11,155 Speaker 1: some updates, some snark, some prediction, dateline, no labels, National 245 00:18:11,195 --> 00:18:16,675 Speaker 1: Headquarters inside Republican National Headquarters, Washington. Quote. If Governor Haley 246 00:18:16,795 --> 00:18:19,875 Speaker 1: does not succeed in obtaining the Republican nomination for president, 247 00:18:20,235 --> 00:18:25,315 Speaker 1: says Joe Lieberman, who actually is still alive except for 248 00:18:25,395 --> 00:18:28,395 Speaker 1: his soul, which died in the year two thousand and 249 00:18:28,435 --> 00:18:31,755 Speaker 1: she declares any interest in being part of our bipartisan 250 00:18:31,915 --> 00:18:34,795 Speaker 1: unity ticket. I'm sure the people at No Labels would 251 00:18:34,835 --> 00:18:40,675 Speaker 1: give that the most serious consideration. Does Lieberman really think 252 00:18:40,675 --> 00:18:44,915 Speaker 1: he's fooling anybody? He's not even fooling Haley. A spokesperson 253 00:18:44,995 --> 00:18:48,555 Speaker 1: told Politico quote Nikki has no interest in No Labels. 254 00:18:48,835 --> 00:18:56,875 Speaker 1: She's happy with the Republican label dateline marri Lago. Rather amazingly, 255 00:18:56,995 --> 00:19:00,515 Speaker 1: Haley appears to still be alive for the vice presidential 256 00:19:00,555 --> 00:19:04,355 Speaker 1: spot on a Trump ticket. She's already demanded cognitive tests 257 00:19:04,395 --> 00:19:07,635 Speaker 1: for candidates older than seventy five. On the other hand, 258 00:19:07,675 --> 00:19:12,995 Speaker 1: she's already pre endorsed Trump's nomination. The hardliners really don't 259 00:19:13,035 --> 00:19:17,195 Speaker 1: want her. Matt Gates says she'd be a quote establishment 260 00:19:17,355 --> 00:19:21,075 Speaker 1: neo kon fantasy and a Maga nightmare, and Trump is 261 00:19:21,115 --> 00:19:24,675 Speaker 1: reportedly being warned that if he picks her or anybody 262 00:19:24,715 --> 00:19:29,715 Speaker 1: else even partially acceptable to the non fascist wing of 263 00:19:29,755 --> 00:19:33,595 Speaker 1: the party, he should prepare to watch Haley or whoever 264 00:19:33,635 --> 00:19:38,835 Speaker 1: he picks aligned with mainstream Republican senators to remove him 265 00:19:38,835 --> 00:19:42,635 Speaker 1: from the presidency and elevate her to it during his 266 00:19:42,795 --> 00:19:47,995 Speaker 1: second term. Nice people, you attract So I keep getting 267 00:19:48,035 --> 00:19:50,315 Speaker 1: asked who is the vice president for Trump if he 268 00:19:50,395 --> 00:19:53,755 Speaker 1: wins the nomination, And the theory is Trump can't trust 269 00:19:53,835 --> 00:19:57,795 Speaker 1: anybody to try to not outshine him in order to 270 00:19:57,875 --> 00:20:01,275 Speaker 1: succeed him unless he finds a Dick Cheney type who 271 00:20:01,315 --> 00:20:05,235 Speaker 1: has no interest in succeeding him. Ironic model Veep given 272 00:20:05,275 --> 00:20:08,075 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney. He would really like a Dick Cheney type 273 00:20:08,075 --> 00:20:11,475 Speaker 1: who's not from the political world. Among those from the 274 00:20:11,515 --> 00:20:16,515 Speaker 1: political world, North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham because Trump admires 275 00:20:16,755 --> 00:20:20,915 Speaker 1: his money. Senator Tim Scott because Trump hasn't figured it 276 00:20:20,955 --> 00:20:26,475 Speaker 1: out yet. Senator Marsha Blackburn because Okay, on this one, 277 00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:31,075 Speaker 1: they've stumped me. This makes no sense at all. Ben Carson, 278 00:20:31,515 --> 00:20:37,195 Speaker 1: Glenn Youngkin, jd Vance, Christy Nome, Sarah Huckabee Sanders though 279 00:20:37,235 --> 00:20:39,595 Speaker 1: he's mad at her for waiting to endorse him, and 280 00:20:39,635 --> 00:20:44,595 Speaker 1: of course shameless a moral opportunist. Elise Stefanic. You know 281 00:20:44,635 --> 00:20:48,355 Speaker 1: who I think Trump should pick? Nick Ayres. You know 282 00:20:48,395 --> 00:20:51,475 Speaker 1: who Nick Airs is. He was the chief of staff 283 00:20:51,555 --> 00:20:55,635 Speaker 1: of an erstwhile Trump world figure, and Nick Ayers endorsed 284 00:20:55,715 --> 00:20:59,715 Speaker 1: Trump yesterday. Nick Ayres was the chief of staff to 285 00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:06,595 Speaker 1: Mike Pence, and if he could endorsed Trump after what 286 00:21:06,635 --> 00:21:09,315 Speaker 1: Trump tried to do to Mike Pence, he is both 287 00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:36,995 Speaker 1: evil enough and masochistic enough to serve Trump still ahead 288 00:21:37,035 --> 00:21:38,875 Speaker 1: on this edition of Countdown. We tend to think of 289 00:21:38,915 --> 00:21:42,955 Speaker 1: the destruction of culture and literature as some sort of 290 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:48,435 Speaker 1: twenty first century phenomenon. In fact, America has always dumbed down, 291 00:21:49,075 --> 00:21:52,555 Speaker 1: at least in spots, even as other parts of it 292 00:21:52,635 --> 00:21:58,155 Speaker 1: have smartened up. In nineteen thirty seven, James Thurber was 293 00:21:58,195 --> 00:22:03,635 Speaker 1: already bemoaning the dummening Americans, smart enough to travel the world, 294 00:22:03,755 --> 00:22:07,955 Speaker 1: yet stupid enough to complain about Shakespeare's Macbeth because it 295 00:22:07,995 --> 00:22:12,595 Speaker 1: did not follow the rules of paperback fiction. The Macbeth 296 00:22:12,755 --> 00:22:15,715 Speaker 1: murder mystery one of my favorites in Fridays with Thurber. 297 00:22:16,115 --> 00:22:19,195 Speaker 1: Next first time for the daily roundup of the miscreants, 298 00:22:19,275 --> 00:22:22,755 Speaker 1: morons and dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute two days 299 00:22:23,635 --> 00:22:28,635 Speaker 1: worse persons in the world, Lebrons Worse. Metro UK a 300 00:22:28,755 --> 00:22:34,195 Speaker 1: kind of sassy British news website which tweeted out something bizarre. 301 00:22:35,035 --> 00:22:36,795 Speaker 1: The only thing you really need to know in advance 302 00:22:36,875 --> 00:22:39,595 Speaker 1: is that the British outfit called the Met Office is 303 00:22:39,635 --> 00:22:44,515 Speaker 1: actually the Meteorology Office. It does the weather. The tweet 304 00:22:44,595 --> 00:22:49,035 Speaker 1: quote the Met Office warrens the UK will be double 305 00:22:49,195 --> 00:22:53,675 Speaker 1: fisted by deadly snow and ice. Now this might have 306 00:22:53,755 --> 00:22:58,115 Speaker 1: gone by unnoticed except the Met Office itself took dignified 307 00:22:58,395 --> 00:23:03,395 Speaker 1: offense to this and replied quote needless to say, this 308 00:23:03,555 --> 00:23:08,555 Speaker 1: isn't it tim use to describe the weather. I'm now 309 00:23:08,595 --> 00:23:11,515 Speaker 1: compelled to tell you for some reason that on July thirtieth, 310 00:23:11,515 --> 00:23:16,035 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, the Seattle Mariners traded a pitcher named Doug 311 00:23:16,475 --> 00:23:22,555 Speaker 1: Fister to the Detroit Tigers for pitchers Chance Ruffin and 312 00:23:22,755 --> 00:23:28,635 Speaker 1: Charlie Furbush. It was, of course the Fister Roughin Furbush trade. 313 00:23:30,435 --> 00:23:33,915 Speaker 1: Moving on the runner up worser Larry Elder, I have 314 00:23:33,995 --> 00:23:35,995 Speaker 1: to tell you that for a long time I thought 315 00:23:36,075 --> 00:23:41,395 Speaker 1: Larry Elder was a bit some comedian fiercely dedicated to 316 00:23:41,435 --> 00:23:45,115 Speaker 1: an alternate persona. He had this great concept of a 317 00:23:45,155 --> 00:23:49,075 Speaker 1: conservative idiot with a specialty for stepping on rakes, you know, 318 00:23:49,195 --> 00:23:53,555 Speaker 1: kind of like Dave Chappelle's blind KKK Leader, a fringe 319 00:23:53,635 --> 00:23:56,955 Speaker 1: radio talk show host. Larry has run for and lost 320 00:23:57,075 --> 00:24:01,235 Speaker 1: or bailed out for the California Senate, the California governorship, 321 00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:05,595 Speaker 1: and the presidency. But Larry Elder has now even himself, 322 00:24:05,635 --> 00:24:08,435 Speaker 1: I think. At four p thirteen yesterday morning, Eastern Time, 323 00:24:08,475 --> 00:24:11,435 Speaker 1: he posted what might be the saddest thing I have 324 00:24:11,595 --> 00:24:17,675 Speaker 1: ever read on Twitter x quote, Dear Elon Musk, why 325 00:24:17,715 --> 00:24:21,235 Speaker 1: does my number of followers barely change day to day 326 00:24:21,635 --> 00:24:25,955 Speaker 1: despite how often I post and how clever and meaningful 327 00:24:26,035 --> 00:24:31,155 Speaker 1: the content. Please be advised there is deep state at 328 00:24:31,435 --> 00:24:34,595 Speaker 1: x and with all due respect, you are so busy 329 00:24:34,635 --> 00:24:40,675 Speaker 1: and distracted that you don't even know it. Unquote, mister 330 00:24:40,715 --> 00:24:44,475 Speaker 1: Elder has inadvertently defined MAGA and the Republican Party and 331 00:24:44,555 --> 00:24:48,795 Speaker 1: the twenty first century Trumpian culture of I'm an infallible genius. 332 00:24:49,115 --> 00:24:53,075 Speaker 1: I know this because I'm also omission. It couldn't be. 333 00:24:54,275 --> 00:24:57,195 Speaker 1: Even as some of Elder's fellow right wing trolls noted 334 00:24:57,275 --> 00:25:00,595 Speaker 1: that his timeline consists mostly of links to websites he's 335 00:25:00,635 --> 00:25:03,835 Speaker 1: being paid to promote, therefore nobody wants to follow him, 336 00:25:03,915 --> 00:25:06,475 Speaker 1: it couldn't be some else that you also might discern 337 00:25:06,515 --> 00:25:09,955 Speaker 1: from his timeline or just from hearing him talk, namely 338 00:25:09,995 --> 00:25:13,995 Speaker 1: that even from MAGA, Larry Elder is really dumb. No, 339 00:25:14,275 --> 00:25:18,035 Speaker 1: it's the deep state, As tweeter Larry Downing noted, the 340 00:25:18,075 --> 00:25:22,195 Speaker 1: deep state is when people don't like my posts, have 341 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:25,235 Speaker 1: some self respect and just buy some bot followers older 342 00:25:26,195 --> 00:25:30,755 Speaker 1: but our winner, Tucker Carlson. Remember Tucker Carlson. He has 343 00:25:30,795 --> 00:25:35,035 Speaker 1: another Twitter video out four years after Twitter videos stop 344 00:25:35,115 --> 00:25:38,235 Speaker 1: being a thing, only this one is another attempt at 345 00:25:38,315 --> 00:25:41,475 Speaker 1: gaslighting about January sixth. And I say attempt because I 346 00:25:41,475 --> 00:25:44,195 Speaker 1: don't think Tucker Carlson and the conspiracy theorist he had 347 00:25:44,235 --> 00:25:48,355 Speaker 1: on with him, a sleazy mcbad haircut or whatever his 348 00:25:48,435 --> 00:25:53,275 Speaker 1: name is, really realize what they were implying. Carlson's text 349 00:25:53,355 --> 00:25:57,755 Speaker 1: atop his video reads quote, it seems likely the government 350 00:25:57,795 --> 00:26:01,235 Speaker 1: officials were involved in planting pipe bombs in Washington, d C. 351 00:26:01,435 --> 00:26:03,835 Speaker 1: Three years ago as part of an effort to keep 352 00:26:03,875 --> 00:26:12,515 Speaker 1: Donald Trump from running for president again. So Tucker, when 353 00:26:12,595 --> 00:26:15,795 Speaker 1: the pipe bombs were planted in Washington on January fifth, 354 00:26:15,795 --> 00:26:18,835 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, it was the government who did it. 355 00:26:20,235 --> 00:26:23,035 Speaker 1: The government on January fifth, twenty twenty one was the 356 00:26:23,515 --> 00:26:27,675 Speaker 1: was the Trump the Trump government? Tucker Carlson says the 357 00:26:27,715 --> 00:26:30,635 Speaker 1: Trump government planted the January twenty twenty one pipe bombs 358 00:26:30,635 --> 00:26:34,715 Speaker 1: in Washington. Well, done, Tucker, you underscored my opening point. 359 00:26:34,795 --> 00:26:40,875 Speaker 1: Time to send Trump to Gitmo. Tucker Carlson, what an asshole? 360 00:26:41,515 --> 00:27:10,235 Speaker 1: Two days worst first said, hello world. Fridays with Thurber 361 00:27:10,355 --> 00:27:12,315 Speaker 1: and the Works of the Master, and one I have 362 00:27:12,435 --> 00:27:15,395 Speaker 1: not read to you here before, but is one of 363 00:27:15,435 --> 00:27:20,715 Speaker 1: my favorites because it is well you'll hear Fridays with 364 00:27:20,795 --> 00:27:26,875 Speaker 1: Thurber and the Macbeth Murder Mystery by James Thurber. It 365 00:27:26,915 --> 00:27:29,795 Speaker 1: was a stupid mistake to make, said the American woman 366 00:27:29,955 --> 00:27:32,595 Speaker 1: I had met at my hotel in the English Lake Country. 367 00:27:32,995 --> 00:27:35,275 Speaker 1: But it was on the counter with the other Penguin books, 368 00:27:35,515 --> 00:27:38,035 Speaker 1: the little sixpenny ones, you know, with the paper covers, 369 00:27:38,595 --> 00:27:41,075 Speaker 1: and I supposed, of course it was a detective story. 370 00:27:41,755 --> 00:27:45,035 Speaker 1: All the others were detective stories. I'd read all the others, 371 00:27:45,595 --> 00:27:48,035 Speaker 1: so I bought this one without really looking at it carefully. 372 00:27:48,515 --> 00:27:50,515 Speaker 1: You can imagine how mad I was when I found 373 00:27:50,595 --> 00:27:58,035 Speaker 1: it was Shakespeare. I murmured something sympathetically. I don't see 374 00:27:58,035 --> 00:28:00,595 Speaker 1: why the Penguin Books people had to get out Shakespeare's 375 00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:03,595 Speaker 1: plays in the same size and everything as the detective stories. 376 00:28:04,155 --> 00:28:08,675 Speaker 1: Went on. My companion, I think they have different colored jackets, 377 00:28:08,915 --> 00:28:12,475 Speaker 1: I said, well, I didn't notice that, she said. Anyway, 378 00:28:12,475 --> 00:28:14,675 Speaker 1: I got real comfy in bed that night and all 379 00:28:14,755 --> 00:28:17,235 Speaker 1: ready to read a good mystery story. And here I 380 00:28:17,315 --> 00:28:22,235 Speaker 1: had the Tragedy of Macbeth, a book for high school 381 00:28:22,275 --> 00:28:29,435 Speaker 1: students like Ivan Hoe or Lorna Doone, I said, exactly, 382 00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:32,715 Speaker 1: said the American lady. And I was just crazy for 383 00:28:32,755 --> 00:28:36,635 Speaker 1: a good Agatha Christie or something. Rcule Poirot is my 384 00:28:36,755 --> 00:28:41,395 Speaker 1: favorite detective. Is he the Rabbity one, I asked, Oh, no, 385 00:28:42,075 --> 00:28:45,675 Speaker 1: said my crime fiction expert. He's the Belgian one you're 386 00:28:45,675 --> 00:28:48,595 Speaker 1: thinking of, mister Pinkerton, the one that helps Inspector Bull. 387 00:28:48,955 --> 00:28:53,795 Speaker 1: He's good too. Over her second cup of tea, my 388 00:28:53,915 --> 00:28:56,955 Speaker 1: companion began to tell me the plot of a detective 389 00:28:56,995 --> 00:29:00,595 Speaker 1: story that had fooled her completely. It seems it was 390 00:29:00,635 --> 00:29:05,555 Speaker 1: the old family doctor all the time. But I cut 391 00:29:05,555 --> 00:29:10,275 Speaker 1: in on her. Tell me, I said, did you read Macbeth? 392 00:29:11,075 --> 00:29:13,235 Speaker 1: I had to read it. She said, there wasn't a 393 00:29:13,275 --> 00:29:15,515 Speaker 1: scrap of anything else to read in the whole room. 394 00:29:16,875 --> 00:29:21,275 Speaker 1: Did you like it, I asked, no, I did not, 395 00:29:21,915 --> 00:29:25,075 Speaker 1: she said, decisively. In the first place, I don't think 396 00:29:25,075 --> 00:29:29,595 Speaker 1: for a moment that Macbeth did it. I looked at her, 397 00:29:30,475 --> 00:29:35,835 Speaker 1: blankly did what I asked. I don't think for a 398 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:38,555 Speaker 1: moment that he killed the king, she said. I don't 399 00:29:38,555 --> 00:29:40,675 Speaker 1: think the Macbeth woman was mixed up in it either. 400 00:29:41,235 --> 00:29:43,315 Speaker 1: You suspect them the most, of course, but those are 401 00:29:43,355 --> 00:29:45,995 Speaker 1: the ones that are never guilty, or shouldn't be anyway. 402 00:29:47,835 --> 00:29:51,595 Speaker 1: I'm afraid I began that I but don't you see, 403 00:29:51,715 --> 00:29:54,915 Speaker 1: said the American lady. It would spoil everything if you 404 00:29:54,915 --> 00:29:57,795 Speaker 1: could figure out right away who did it. Shakespeare was 405 00:29:57,835 --> 00:30:00,955 Speaker 1: too smart for that. I've read that people never have 406 00:30:01,075 --> 00:30:04,355 Speaker 1: figured out Hamlet, so it isn't likely Shakespeare would have 407 00:30:04,355 --> 00:30:09,035 Speaker 1: made mc beth as simple as it seems. I thought 408 00:30:09,075 --> 00:30:15,475 Speaker 1: this over while I filled my pipe. Who do you suspect? 409 00:30:15,875 --> 00:30:22,995 Speaker 1: I asked, suddenly Macduff, she said promptly. Good God, I 410 00:30:23,115 --> 00:30:27,235 Speaker 1: whispered softly. Oh McDuff did it all right? Said the 411 00:30:27,315 --> 00:30:32,315 Speaker 1: murder specialist. Erkuo Paro would have got him easily. How 412 00:30:32,355 --> 00:30:36,195 Speaker 1: did you figure it out? I demanded, Well, she said 413 00:30:36,355 --> 00:30:39,755 Speaker 1: I didn't right away. First I suspected Banquo, and then 414 00:30:39,795 --> 00:30:42,475 Speaker 1: of course he was the second person killed. That was 415 00:30:42,515 --> 00:30:45,235 Speaker 1: good right in there, that part. The person you suspect 416 00:30:45,275 --> 00:30:48,675 Speaker 1: of the first murder should always be the second victim. 417 00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:53,155 Speaker 1: Is that so, I murmured, Oh, yes, said my informant. 418 00:30:53,355 --> 00:30:56,955 Speaker 1: They have to keep surprising you. Well after the second murder, 419 00:30:56,995 --> 00:30:58,955 Speaker 1: I didn't know who the killer was for a while. 420 00:31:00,395 --> 00:31:05,795 Speaker 1: Uh how about Malcolm and Donald Bain, the King's I asked, 421 00:31:06,275 --> 00:31:09,675 Speaker 1: as I remember it, They fled right after the first murder. 422 00:31:09,835 --> 00:31:14,355 Speaker 1: That looks suspicious. Too suspicious, said the American lady. Much 423 00:31:14,395 --> 00:31:18,755 Speaker 1: too suspicious. When they flee, they're never guilty. You can 424 00:31:18,795 --> 00:31:24,195 Speaker 1: count on that, I believe, I said, I'll have a brandy, 425 00:31:24,755 --> 00:31:29,155 Speaker 1: and I summoned the waiter. My companion leaned toward me, 426 00:31:29,355 --> 00:31:33,955 Speaker 1: her eyes bright, her teacup quivering. Do you know who 427 00:31:34,035 --> 00:31:38,835 Speaker 1: discovered Duncan's body? She demanded? I said, I was sorry, 428 00:31:38,835 --> 00:31:43,915 Speaker 1: but I had forgotten McDuff discovers it, she said, slipping 429 00:31:43,955 --> 00:31:47,595 Speaker 1: into the historical presence. Then he comes running downstairs and shouts, 430 00:31:47,715 --> 00:31:52,195 Speaker 1: confusion has broke open the Lord's anointed temple, and sacrilegious 431 00:31:52,275 --> 00:31:54,915 Speaker 1: murder has made his masterpiece, and on and on like that. 432 00:31:55,675 --> 00:31:58,355 Speaker 1: The good lady tapped me on the knee. All that 433 00:31:58,395 --> 00:32:02,035 Speaker 1: stuff was rehearsed, She said, you wouldn't say a lot 434 00:32:02,075 --> 00:32:04,955 Speaker 1: of stuff like that offhand, would you if you'd found 435 00:32:04,955 --> 00:32:10,955 Speaker 1: a body. She fixed me with a glittering eye. I began, 436 00:32:11,075 --> 00:32:14,595 Speaker 1: you're right, she said, you wouldn't unless you had practiced 437 00:32:14,635 --> 00:32:18,195 Speaker 1: it in advance. My god, there's a body in here 438 00:32:18,235 --> 00:32:22,475 Speaker 1: is what an innocent man would say. She sat back 439 00:32:22,515 --> 00:32:27,275 Speaker 1: with a confident glare. I thought for a while, But 440 00:32:27,755 --> 00:32:31,395 Speaker 1: what do you make of the third murderer? I asked. 441 00:32:31,395 --> 00:32:35,475 Speaker 1: You know, the third murderer has puzzled Macbeth's scholars for 442 00:32:35,595 --> 00:32:39,835 Speaker 1: three hundred years. That's because they never thought of McDuff, 443 00:32:40,115 --> 00:32:43,155 Speaker 1: said the American lady. It was McDuff. I'm certain you 444 00:32:43,195 --> 00:32:46,555 Speaker 1: couldn't have one of the victims murdered by two ordinary thugs. 445 00:32:46,955 --> 00:32:50,595 Speaker 1: The murderer always has to be somebody important. But what 446 00:32:50,715 --> 00:32:53,955 Speaker 1: about the banquet scene, I asked, after a moment, How 447 00:32:53,955 --> 00:32:58,355 Speaker 1: do you account for Macbeth's guilty actions there when Banquo's 448 00:32:58,355 --> 00:33:02,555 Speaker 1: ghosts came in and sat in his chair. The lady 449 00:33:02,675 --> 00:33:05,995 Speaker 1: leaned forward and tapped me on the knee again. There 450 00:33:06,075 --> 00:33:09,875 Speaker 1: wasn't any ghost, she said. A big, strong man like 451 00:33:09,915 --> 00:33:13,115 Speaker 1: that doesn't go around seeing ghosts, especially in a brightly 452 00:33:13,235 --> 00:33:16,835 Speaker 1: lighted banquet hall with dozens of people around. Macbeth was 453 00:33:16,915 --> 00:33:24,275 Speaker 1: shielding somebody. Who was he shielding, I asked missus Macbeth. 454 00:33:24,395 --> 00:33:27,795 Speaker 1: Of course, she said he thought she did it, and 455 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:30,235 Speaker 1: he was going to take the rap himself. The husband 456 00:33:30,315 --> 00:33:34,355 Speaker 1: always does that when the wife is suspected. But what 457 00:33:34,875 --> 00:33:39,795 Speaker 1: I demanded about the sleepwalking scene, then the same thing, 458 00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:42,955 Speaker 1: only the other way around, said my companion. That time 459 00:33:43,315 --> 00:33:47,755 Speaker 1: she was shielding him. She wasn't asleep at all. Do 460 00:33:47,795 --> 00:33:52,435 Speaker 1: you remember where it says enter lady Macbeth with a taper? Yes, 461 00:33:52,995 --> 00:33:55,755 Speaker 1: I said, Well, people who walk in their sleep never 462 00:33:55,875 --> 00:34:00,395 Speaker 1: carry lights, said my fellow traveler. They have a second sight. 463 00:34:00,875 --> 00:34:05,235 Speaker 1: Did you ever hear of a sleepwalker carrying a light? No? Oh, 464 00:34:05,315 --> 00:34:09,035 Speaker 1: I said, I never did. Well, then she wasn't asleep. 465 00:34:09,115 --> 00:34:15,075 Speaker 1: She was acting guilty to shield Macbeth. I think. I said, 466 00:34:15,715 --> 00:34:19,555 Speaker 1: I'll have another brandy, and I called the waiter. When 467 00:34:19,555 --> 00:34:22,155 Speaker 1: he brought it, I drank it rapidly and rose to go. 468 00:34:23,635 --> 00:34:26,755 Speaker 1: I believe I said that you have got hold of something. 469 00:34:27,435 --> 00:34:30,115 Speaker 1: Would you lend me that, Macbeth. I'd like to look 470 00:34:30,115 --> 00:34:32,555 Speaker 1: it over tonight. I don't feel somehow as if I've 471 00:34:32,835 --> 00:34:36,555 Speaker 1: ever really read it. I'll get it for you, she said, 472 00:34:36,635 --> 00:34:40,955 Speaker 1: But you'll find that I'm right. I read the play 473 00:34:40,995 --> 00:34:44,275 Speaker 1: over carefully that night, and the next morning, after breakfast, 474 00:34:44,275 --> 00:34:46,955 Speaker 1: I sought out the American woman. She was on the 475 00:34:46,995 --> 00:34:50,395 Speaker 1: putting green, and I came up behind her silently and 476 00:34:50,435 --> 00:34:55,235 Speaker 1: took her arm. She gave an exclamation. Could I see 477 00:34:55,275 --> 00:34:58,475 Speaker 1: you alone? I asked in a low voice. She nodded 478 00:34:58,515 --> 00:35:02,075 Speaker 1: cautiously and followed me to a secluded spot. You've found 479 00:35:02,115 --> 00:35:07,355 Speaker 1: out something, she breathed. I've found out, I said, triumphantly, 480 00:35:07,555 --> 00:35:11,915 Speaker 1: the name of the murderer. You mean it wasn't McDuff, 481 00:35:12,235 --> 00:35:17,155 Speaker 1: she said. McDuff is as innocent of those murders, I said, 482 00:35:17,795 --> 00:35:22,955 Speaker 1: as Macbeth and the Macbeth woman. I opened the copy 483 00:35:22,995 --> 00:35:24,995 Speaker 1: of the play, which I had with me, and turned 484 00:35:24,995 --> 00:35:28,315 Speaker 1: to act to seem to here, I said, you will 485 00:35:28,315 --> 00:35:33,315 Speaker 1: see where Lady Macbeth says, I laid their daggers ready. 486 00:35:33,955 --> 00:35:37,675 Speaker 1: He could not miss them. Had he not resembled my 487 00:35:37,835 --> 00:35:44,235 Speaker 1: father as he slept, I had done it. Do you see, no, 488 00:35:45,155 --> 00:35:49,235 Speaker 1: said the American woman bluntly. I don't. But it's simple, 489 00:35:49,515 --> 00:35:52,035 Speaker 1: I exclaimed. I wonder I didn't see it years ago. 490 00:35:52,435 --> 00:35:57,235 Speaker 1: The reason Duncan resembled Lady Macbeth's father as he slept, 491 00:35:57,275 --> 00:36:04,115 Speaker 1: is that it actually was her father. Good God, breathe 492 00:36:04,155 --> 00:36:10,435 Speaker 1: my company softly. Lady Macbeth's father killed the king, I said, 493 00:36:10,955 --> 00:36:14,195 Speaker 1: and hearing someone coming, thrust the body under the bed 494 00:36:14,235 --> 00:36:18,075 Speaker 1: and crawled into the bed himself. But said the lady. 495 00:36:18,195 --> 00:36:20,115 Speaker 1: You can't have a murderer who only appears in the 496 00:36:20,155 --> 00:36:24,395 Speaker 1: story once. You can't have that. I know that, I said, 497 00:36:24,395 --> 00:36:26,875 Speaker 1: and I turned to Act two, Scene four. It says, 498 00:36:26,915 --> 00:36:33,355 Speaker 1: here enter Ross with an old man. Now that old 499 00:36:33,435 --> 00:36:36,315 Speaker 1: man is never identified, and it is my contention that 500 00:36:36,395 --> 00:36:39,555 Speaker 1: he was old mister Macbeth, whose ambition it was to 501 00:36:39,755 --> 00:36:44,115 Speaker 1: make his daughter queen. There you'll have your motive. But 502 00:36:44,195 --> 00:36:49,435 Speaker 1: even then, cried the American lady, he's still a minor character, not, 503 00:36:50,115 --> 00:36:52,795 Speaker 1: I said, gleefully, when you realize that he was also 504 00:36:52,875 --> 00:36:56,635 Speaker 1: one of the weird sisters in disguise. You mean one 505 00:36:56,675 --> 00:37:00,995 Speaker 1: of those three witches. Precisely, I said. Listen to this 506 00:37:01,155 --> 00:37:04,635 Speaker 1: speech of the old man's. On Tuesday last, a falcon 507 00:37:04,915 --> 00:37:08,555 Speaker 1: towering in her pride of place was by a mousing owl, 508 00:37:08,795 --> 00:37:13,955 Speaker 1: hawked at and killed. Who does that sound like? It 509 00:37:14,115 --> 00:37:17,395 Speaker 1: sounds like the way the three witches talk, said my 510 00:37:17,515 --> 00:37:23,515 Speaker 1: companion reluctantly, precisely, I said. Again, Well, said the American woman. 511 00:37:24,035 --> 00:37:26,875 Speaker 1: Maybe you're right, but I'm sure I am, I said, 512 00:37:27,155 --> 00:37:29,755 Speaker 1: And do you know what I'm going to do now? No? 513 00:37:30,675 --> 00:37:35,435 Speaker 1: She said, what buy a copy of Hamlet? I said, 514 00:37:35,475 --> 00:37:42,995 Speaker 1: and solve that. My companion's eyes brightened. Then she said, 515 00:37:43,635 --> 00:37:47,755 Speaker 1: you don't think Hamlet did it? I am? I said, 516 00:37:48,395 --> 00:37:55,675 Speaker 1: absolutely positive he did not. But who? She demanded, who 517 00:37:55,675 --> 00:38:02,435 Speaker 1: do you suspect? I looked at her cryptically, everybody, I said, 518 00:38:02,995 --> 00:38:07,435 Speaker 1: and disappeared into a small grove of trees as silently 519 00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:14,395 Speaker 1: as I had come. The Macbeth Murder Mystery by James Thurber. 520 00:38:27,435 --> 00:38:29,275 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 521 00:38:29,315 --> 00:38:32,995 Speaker 1: you for listening. I love that story. Countdown Musical directors 522 00:38:32,995 --> 00:38:36,515 Speaker 1: Brian Ray and John Phillip Shaneil arranged, produced, and performed 523 00:38:36,555 --> 00:38:39,235 Speaker 1: most of our music. Mister Ray was on guitars, bass 524 00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:42,875 Speaker 1: and drums. Mister Schnaie handled orchestration and keyboards, and it 525 00:38:42,915 --> 00:38:45,835 Speaker 1: was produced by Tko Brothers. Other music, including some of 526 00:38:45,875 --> 00:38:49,675 Speaker 1: the Beethoven compositions, arranged and performed by No Horns Allowed. 527 00:38:50,115 --> 00:38:52,955 Speaker 1: The sports music is the Oberman theme from ESPN two, 528 00:38:53,235 --> 00:38:56,715 Speaker 1: written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN inc. Our 529 00:38:56,835 --> 00:39:00,075 Speaker 1: satirical and pithy musical comments are by Nancy Faust, the 530 00:39:00,075 --> 00:39:03,075 Speaker 1: best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was my 531 00:39:03,075 --> 00:39:05,915 Speaker 1: friend Stevie van Zandt, and everything house was pretty much 532 00:39:05,955 --> 00:39:08,475 Speaker 1: my fault. And that's countdown for this the two hundred 533 00:39:08,475 --> 00:39:11,635 Speaker 1: and ninety fourth day until the twenty twenty four US 534 00:39:11,675 --> 00:39:16,235 Speaker 1: presidential election, and the one ninth day since dementia Jay 535 00:39:16,275 --> 00:39:19,635 Speaker 1: Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of 536 00:39:19,675 --> 00:39:23,915 Speaker 1: the United States. Use the Fourteenth Amendment, use the Insurrection Act, 537 00:39:24,275 --> 00:39:27,435 Speaker 1: use the justice system to stop him from doing it 538 00:39:27,475 --> 00:39:33,155 Speaker 1: again while we still can. The next scheduled countdown is Tuesday. 539 00:39:33,195 --> 00:39:36,395 Speaker 1: Bulletins is the news warrants till then. I'm Keith Olderman. 540 00:39:36,475 --> 00:39:55,635 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. 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