1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number three Clay 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: with us. As we are rolling through the Wednesday edition 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: of the program. We've been talking about inflation running hotter 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: than expected, the Arizona abortion ruling, NPR's lack of fairness 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: in its basic duty to provide journalism. We need to 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: talk about the Ashley Biden diary coming up here in 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: a bit, But first, Senator Ran Paul the Great State 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: of Kentucky joins us. Now we're going to get into 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: really serious questions, but probably the biggest story of the 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: state of Kentucky right now. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: And I bet you know where I'm going. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: Senator Paul John Calipari, longtime University of Kentucky basketball coach. 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: No longer there. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I believe you've managed to get elected in Kentucky despite 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: being a duke guy. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: You can correct me if I'm wrong on that, But. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: To bring that up now, they're gonna probably want to 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: impeach me. They know I went to do my goodness, 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: You should have never brought that up. 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Big Christian Latner fan Kentucky senate to Senator Ram Paul 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: so John Calla Perry out. Do you have any reactions? 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: I know you're a basketball fan that I'm not even kidding. 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: This is by far the biggest story in your state, 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: I'm sure. 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 2: Uh. 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 1: And they're talking about I think trying to hire Scott 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: Drew from Baylor. And I believe your dad has a 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: good connection with Baylor, if I'm not mistaken. What's your 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: take on this, h this Kentucky basketball situation. 32 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: And no, that's actually me. I went to Baylor undergrad. 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: So oh, there you go. 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: Yes, we're a big fan of the Banner Bears. But 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: you know, I always like caller Perry. And you know, 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: I think sometimes the fans at some of these schools 37 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: we get kind of greedy. I's like, when's the last 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: time we had a national championship? Damn, it's been three 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: or four years since we won the national championships. And 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: sometimes it's that, and sometimes it may be you know, 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: I don't I don't follow it close enough to say, oh, 42 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 3: he should have called this player, he should have guarded 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: this player this, or run this offense. 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: You know. 45 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know that I can give the best 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: advice on who should be the coach or what the 47 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: offense should be. But in my relations with cal Perry, 48 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 3: I thought they were good and I probably seemed to 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: be a reasonable guy. 50 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: Senator Paul, thanks for being here. I have a different 51 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: question for you, a different topic. I mean, you've claimed 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: that there's a smoking gun tying Fauci and NIH research 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: to the desire to create COVID type viruses. And I 54 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: think the subtext of all this, or maybe just the 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 4: background necessary for people to know, is Fauci has been 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: dishonest about this over a long period of time. What 57 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: do we know now and where are we in terms 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: of getting to the bottom of NIH Fauci ties to 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: the virus and its origins. 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: About two years ago, a whistleblower revealed that the Wuhan 61 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: Institute of Virology, the lab in China, wanted to get 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: American taxpayer dollars to create a virus, a coronavirus that 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: had a special way to infect human cells called a 64 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: furein cleavage site, so they asked for money. In twenty eighteen, 65 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: this was asked of DARPA. DARPA didn't give them the money, 66 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: but it was also presented to fifteen different agencies, and 67 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: nobody from DARPA. Nobody from the fifteen agencies, and the 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: agencies included Anthony Faucisaid as well as Anih. They all 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: heard about this proposal, and none of them warned us 70 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: that the Labin Wuhan wanted to work on creating a 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: virus that, it turns out looks very scarily similar to 72 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: what COVID nineteen was. So in January of twenty twenty, 73 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: when we discovered the COVID nineteen virus and we look 74 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: at the sequence, at least fifteen different agencies of government 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: should have been going, holy cow, the virus looked just 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: like what the Wuhan Institute was asking us to help 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: them create two years ago, and alarm bells should have 78 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: gone off saying, by golly, they did it. They actually 79 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: created this Frankenstein virus that they told us they wanted 80 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: to create, even though we didn't give them the money. Instead, 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: we would know none of this but for a brave 82 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: lieutenant colonel at DARPA who became a whistleblower, told his superiors, 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: told us a chain of command, and then revealed it 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: to an inspector general that this grant existed, that Wuhan 85 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: was searching to create this kind of a virus two 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: years before. Otherwise, the government has completely covered this up, 87 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: including Anthony Fauci, who lied in committees that he had 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: never heard of this proposal. We now have evidence that 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: not only was his agency briefed about this proposal, but 90 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: we have evidence that his agency was going to provide 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: a lab, the Rocky Mountain Lab, which is part of 92 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: NAIAID Fauci's organization at ATIH, that they were going to 93 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 3: do part of the research to create this virus. Now 94 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: they disappear from the proposal later on, but we now 95 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: know that Anthony Fauci did have information about this, and 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: he hasn't been honest with the public. 97 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I one hundred percent agree with everything you just said. 98 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: I know Buck does too. I read your book. I 99 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: think you have been better than any politician on a 100 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: federal level at all relating to COVID. I think you're 101 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: right that Anthony Fauci lied under oath. I think he 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: lied under oath multiple times. Is there ever going to 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: be any consequences for Anthony Fauci for the lies that 104 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: he told? What should happen, what can happen? Is anything 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: ever going to happen to him for lying to Congress. 106 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: You know, every week I return from Washington, I knock 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: on my home door. My wife greets me in. Instead 108 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: of giving me a kiss or a hux, he says, 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: how come Anthony Fauci's not in jail yet. So I 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: hear this from my wife, I hear from Ukline, I 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: hear it from everybody else, And it's true. I wish 112 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: I could put him in jail. I wish I could 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: prosecute him, but the prosecution has to come from the 114 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: Attorney General. And so we've sent two criminal referrals on 115 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: Anthony Fauci to have him prosecuted for lying to Congress. 116 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: This week, I'm sending a third one, and this is 117 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: based on his denial to Senator Marshall and the Help Committee. 118 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: He denied having any knowledge of this grant. I find 119 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: that stretches credulity because he had representative in the meeting. 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: But not only did they have a. 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: Representative in the meeting, his agency was part of the proposal. 122 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: They were proposing that some of the research for this 123 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: particular project be done at the Rocky Mountain Lab, which 124 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: is part of Fauci's domain. So I find it very 125 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: hard to believe he's telling the truth on any of this. 126 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: But all of the people who were aware of this 127 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: research going on, that have been quiet, that have been 128 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: covering this up, We're going to try to get all 129 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: their names, have them all deposed, have them all interviewed 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: for why they didn't bring this up, why they didn't 131 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: inform any of us that there was a great deal 132 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: of evidence from twenty eighteen showing that the Wuhan virus 133 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: was trying to create this virus, and they should have 134 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 3: all been calling up Anthony Fauci and the President whoever 135 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: else they could get alled up in January twenty twenty, 136 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: and they were all silent, or if they were calling 137 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: people up, they haven't been honest about it, and they 138 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: haven't said it publicly. But we're going to get to 139 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: the bottom of this. I just don't have the power 140 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: to prosecute anyone because I'm not the attorney general. 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: Okay, let's say that Trump wins in twenty twenty four. 142 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: Do you believe and I know you would probably be involved. 143 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Maybe he'd even try to get you in the cabinet 144 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: on some way, but you probably would be involved and 145 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: or know the Attorney general nominee. 146 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: Well, do you think there is. 147 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Someone that Trump could appoint as an Attorney general that 148 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: would be willing to bring charges? Or do you think 149 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: big Pharma is so powerful and there's such a desire 150 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: to sweep everything under the rug that there's almost no 151 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: one has an attorney general that would be willing to 152 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: go after Anthony Fauci not only what's right, but politically, 153 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: do you think there's an AG nominee out there Trump 154 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: one that would do it? 155 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: Well? 156 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: This is the crux of the question about whether I 157 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: get heavily involved in Trump's reelection or not. I haven't 158 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: gotten involved so far because I want to hear from 159 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: him that there'll never be any more lockdowns, that he 160 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: will absolutely stepfastly oppose lockdowns. But I also want to 161 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: hear from him that he's not going to put these 162 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: corporate cronies back in. I mean, the head of the 163 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: SDA was Scott Gottlieb, who's now on the board at 164 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: five who we know from Missouri versus Biden that Scott 165 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: Gottlieb was calling up Twitter and trying to suppress any 166 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: opponents of vaccination for any reason, such as myself saying 167 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: that your children don't need to be vaccinated for COVID. 168 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: Those kind of things were being suppressed by Scott gottli 169 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: That was a bad pick. If he's going to pick 170 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: people like that again, I'm not sure I'm that excited. 171 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: He also picked Bill Barr, Not that excited. He was 172 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: more of a defenderis and more of a defender of 173 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: the surveillance state. He picked the wrong person. 174 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: Now. 175 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: I think if Trump were on the phone now, he'll 176 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: tell you he made a mistake with Bill Barr. He 177 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: made a mistake. Maybe with Scott Gottlieb. He definitely may 178 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: have skate with, you know, with many of the others 179 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: in the administration as well. But we've got to do 180 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: a better job. And I'm not that excited about working 181 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: in a campaign. If we're going to get more corporate 182 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: cronies from the pharmaceutical industry, I want objective voices that 183 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: are going to clean house. I want a clean house 184 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: at the FBI. I want a clean house at the CIA. 185 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: I want a clean house at HHS. I want all 186 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: of the COVID records. I want every last scrap of 187 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: COVID records of the cover up. And I want to 188 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: get to the bottom of it. And if I can 189 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: get that kind of promise from Donald Trump, then I'll 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: get more involved and more excited about his campaign. 191 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: Senator Paul, what do you think about Donald Trump's recent 192 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: proclamation on where he stands for the issue of abortion 193 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: as a state's rights issue versus being vocal about wanting 194 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: some federal legislation on it. How do you see that 195 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 4: constitutionally and politically. 196 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: For fifty years, those of us in the pro life 197 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: movement have marched to overturn Roe v. Wade, and now 198 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 3: in the face of victory, people say, oh, it's not enough. 199 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: We've got to do something different. Now we need a 200 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: federal law. Look, I'm for life from beginning to end. 201 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm a pro life person for religious reasons. I believe 202 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: that were made in the image of our God. I 203 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: think life is precious and you shouldn't you shouldn't exterminate 204 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: it or destroy life. But at the same time, I'm 205 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: a believer in that we won the battle on row. 206 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: It's gone back to the States. There is no winning 207 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: a ban of any kind. Unfortunately, there are not sixty 208 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: votes for the Senate. But fortunately there's not sixty votes 209 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: to legalize abortion. Everywhere either, So we're in an impath 210 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: in the Senate. We just want a big victory. This 211 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: is being sorted out in a very big and emotional 212 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: way throughout the democracy. I'm for letting the state sort 213 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: it out. Doesn't mean I'm against saying it's you know 214 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: that we should protect life at certain stages everywhere. But 215 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: for right now, politically, I think this needs to be 216 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: sorted out in state by state. And some of these 217 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 3: laws are one hundred years old. They're going to have 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: to be changed or updated or left the same, But 219 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: this is going to have to be sorted out at 220 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: the state level. So on this I think Donald Trump's right. 221 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: Senator Ram Paul with us right now. 222 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: You mentioned the idea of we need to have some 223 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: sort of reform with the FBI, with the CIA, with 224 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: large government investigatory groups. 225 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: Couple of part question here. 226 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: One, do you think we'll ever get a Truth in 227 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Base nine to eleven style commission on COVID? 228 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: Should we get it? 229 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: Secondly, how concerned are you about the overarching surveillance state 230 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and what do we need to do to reform that. 231 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: First of all, you got to appoint people at the top, 232 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: but you've got to clean house. I mean, like, for example, 233 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: this isn't surveillance state. But with Falci, he was in 234 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: charge for forty years. You can't have his crony still 235 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: running the place. So he's got a really clean house 236 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: at NIH. It's the same way with FBI, though, I mean, 237 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: it became so politicized. The idea that we would investigate 238 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: with secret warrants in a secret court that's supposed to 239 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 3: be for foreigners, that we investigate a major political party 240 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: candidate in Donald Trump and people around him is obscene. 241 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: And if there were good progressives left in this country, 242 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: they would be saying exactly the same. But they've all 243 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: gone quiet, They've all lost their voice. What kind of 244 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: world is it where we'd allow people to secretly investigate 245 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: political candidates. I mean, we shouldn't let him do it 246 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: to anyone, but it's even more extraordinarily bad and wrongheaded 247 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: to let it happen to political candidates. So, you know, 248 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: but it's about appointments, you know. It's it's about you know, 249 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: knowing to pick the right people and taking your time 250 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: to do it and asking for advice. Frankly, you know, 251 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: I gave Donald Trump quite a bit of advice on picks, 252 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: you know, and John Bolton, I said absolutely not. On 253 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: John Bolton, he wrote in his memoir that he called 254 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: me a name and said I blocked him from being 255 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: Secretary of State, and thank god I did. But then 256 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: Trump brought him back in as National Security advisor. And 257 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: if you talk to Donald Trump for more than five minutes, 258 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: you realize he actually leans libertarian on foreign Policy's more 259 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: of a realist. He's less of a guy who wants 260 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: to always go bomb other countries. We had less war. 261 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: And yes, he picked John Bolton, the biggest war bonger 262 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: that's been in Washington the last forty years. So you know, 263 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: he's got to do a better job. Frankly, everybody loves 264 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Nobody wants to say thing negative. I do too. 265 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: A lot I like about him. I like him personally. 266 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 3: I've been around him a bunch. But he's got to 267 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: do a better job. He's also got to ask advice. 268 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: Look on this COVID thing, I've been in it from 269 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: top to bottom, and I don't get any calls saying, well, 270 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: who should we pick for this? Who should re pick? 271 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't want a job from anybody, but I certainly 272 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: am there to try to help a Trump administration get 273 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: the people who will never put us in a lockdown again, 274 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: that will never mandate masks, that will never mandate vaccines, 275 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: will leave us the hell of loan, stay out of 276 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: our churches, all of that. But you know they have 277 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: to take some advice on it and immediately go to 278 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: big farm to populate the FDA or the CDC. 279 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: Senator around Paul, everybody, sir, always appreciate you joining us. 280 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: And we'll talk to you again soon. 281 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: Thank you. 282 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: You know, we share the news we see with you. Here. 283 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: We do our best to make sense of all the 284 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: insanity out there. We highlight smart decisions, we applaud bravery 285 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: when we see it, and in a sense in the 286 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: stock market, that's exactly what Mark Chakin does. 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So look, I'll just say 308 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: one of my favorite senators and one of my favorite 309 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: members of Congress, so and people that can really shed 310 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: a lot of of light on what's going on on 311 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: Capitol Hill and bring a lot of knowledge and principle 312 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: to it. Am I going to say, Clay, you know 313 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: Rand Paul's talking. I just try to be very objective 314 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: and ask you know, serious, well not serious, but well 315 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: that too. I think it's one of those things where 316 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: Ran Paul, I've said it before. I think he'd be 317 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: a phenomenal president. He's just not going to be president 318 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: because he doesn't like that. You know, he's not ordering 319 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: milkshakes for people. He doesn't have that kind of swagger. 320 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: But I think I agree with rand Paul's public policy 321 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: positions at a higher percentage than any certainly any other senator. 322 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: I think I agree with him more than anyone else. 323 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: He's what you I mean. 324 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: I love it because I would rather kind of have 325 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: a brusque, smart doctor who just gives it to me 326 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: like it is than somebody who is like sugarcoating everything 327 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: right like, which is what I love about Ran Paul. 328 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's important what he said about advising 329 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Trump on who should be appointed for those of us 330 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: out there, and you and I are certain in this 331 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: camp who are still furious about COVID and the fact 332 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: that there have been no consequences for any of the 333 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: lies that we were told about COVID. Almost no one 334 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: has lost their job. Voters just basically decided. I think 335 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: we're right. There's about twenty five percent of people in 336 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: the United States that are like you and me, Bock, 337 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: that are still furious over COVID, want there to be 338 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: some form of retribution. Fifty percent of people, I think 339 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: are ashamed that they went along with all the bs 340 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: and they just want to pretend it never happened now, 341 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: and then twenty five percent are still on the other 342 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: side of everybody. 343 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: Needs a mask and like. 344 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: Everything else, this is what was so And I saw 345 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: this coming and talked about it a lot, even early 346 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: on in the pandemic. They tried to They forced people 347 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: to be complicit in the lie, even if they knew 348 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: it was a lie. And then people feel like, you know, I, 349 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: you know, I had no choice. I have to go 350 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: along with this, and now you know we have to 351 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: do this. I just want to forget about the whole thing. 352 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: And I understand. 353 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 354 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: That's not how I feel it and agree, but I 355 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: understand how people can feel that way on this issue. 356 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: THEATO Senator Rampaul, We've got Jim Jordan. We're gonna talk 357 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 4: to him about FISA and there's a fight right now 358 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: over the PAISA renewal issue Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, so 359 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: we'll be having that discussion with him. But I do 360 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: think we think so much now understandably about how to 361 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: get Trump reelected. The sooner the better it would be. 362 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: I think to also have the conversation on the right 363 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 4: about how to have the most effective Trump presidency, and 364 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: the number one on that list is personnel. As far 365 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, meaning what would I change, have to 366 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: be personnel who know how to work the system and 367 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: are ideologically aligned with the Trump movement. Those two things 368 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 4: have to be absolute, especially at the top level positions. 369 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: I would even suggest that Trump can benefit not only 370 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: from picking a vice president in advance, give us the 371 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: entire cabinet. 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Welcome back in play Travis Buck 391 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We bring in our good friend, Congressman Jim 392 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Jordan of Ohio for the latest on Capitol Hill. Variety 393 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: of different subjects, but I know I got to start 394 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: with you and me. We just talking to Ran Paul 395 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: about a different thing that's going on in the world 396 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: of sports. But when you saw Congressman down Staley come 397 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: out and say she's the University of South Carolina women's 398 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: basketball coach just won the national championship that she thought 399 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: that if a guy identifies as a woman, he should 400 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: be able to play women's basketball in college, potentially even 401 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: for South Carolina you coached, Did. 402 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: You think to yourself, they just keep getting crazier. 403 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: No, it is. This is Sarah Huckabee Sanders' response to 404 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 5: the State and Union a year ago, where she said 405 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 5: the divide in America today is normal versus crazy, and 406 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: it's true like those just something that's just a crazy idea. 407 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: I think it probably made more people all the more 408 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: wanting I. 409 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: Would a win and cheering for Caitlin Clark. 410 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: For goodness sick. 411 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any doubt at all about that. 412 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 4: Congress and Jordan appreciate you being here the the fight 413 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: right now. This isn't getting that much. 414 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: I was saying, I'm still yet in our continuing survey, 415 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 5: I still have to find any guy who goes and 416 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 5: gets ice cream by themselves. I just wanted you to 417 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: know that. And but and also Buck, I was listening 418 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: to you guys last week. We've had the same thing. 419 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 5: Our house is built in eighteen thirties. We've had the 420 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 5: bird down the chimney, run flying around, scaring all the 421 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: kid We've had that happen at our place too, so 422 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: I can relate to that. But on the ice cream thing, 423 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 5: nothing's changed. 424 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 4: I will say, a shoot covered bird, especially if it's 425 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: a New York City pigeon is terrifying in close proximity. 426 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: I know it's actually harmless, but when it's the little 427 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: clouds are coming off it and it's coming at you, 428 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: You're like, I don't really know what to do. 429 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: I was laughing so hard because I forget where. We 430 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 5: were driving somewhere in Texas and we had that gone 431 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 5: and we were out with helping candidates and different things, 432 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: and I'm like, I know that feeling. We've had it 433 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 5: at our We finally put the grapes over the top 434 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: of the chimneys so we don't get it anymore. But 435 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: we had that, you know, once every couple of years 436 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 5: we get a bird plan all over the house. 437 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: Well, at least you don't live in South Florida. My wife, 438 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: I've never heard her scream the way I heard when 439 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: we had a gecko. And now keep in mind there 440 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: are some large obviously they're alligators, but there are some 441 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: large reptiles here. There's like the iguana, and some of 442 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: these iguanas look like small dragons. 443 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, they're pretty big. 444 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: This gecko Congressman was the size of my pinky finger, 445 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: and he looked like he just wanted to be friends. 446 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: But he was like running around inside the bathtub or something, 447 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: so she didn't like that very much. 448 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: So you know, this is what this is why husbands exist. Apparently. 449 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: I I definitely placed him out outside outdoors. 450 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: All right. 451 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: The Constitution saving America, we're getting back to it right now, Yes, 452 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: section seven oh two, Fiza. I remember all this stuff 453 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: from back in my agency days. It's been around a 454 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: long time. 455 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: You want you want to war. 456 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: You want people to get a warn if it involves 457 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: an American, Right, isn't it. What's the fight over the 458 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: pizer renewal? 459 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: Right now, that's exactly right. They collect information on foreigners, 460 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 5: God blessed them. We want you to do that. But 461 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 5: there's this giant database that inevitably sweeps up Americans as well, 462 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: who may instantly talk to some foreigner who's on surveillance, 463 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 5: and then they go search that database, what I call 464 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: this giant hay stack of information. They go search it, 465 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 5: but they don't search it for the foreigner. They use 466 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 5: your name American citizens' name, or your email address or 467 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 5: your phone number to get information on you. And the 468 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 5: Constitution is clear if the executive branch is going to 469 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: go search and get info on you. They have to 470 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 5: go to a separate and equal branch of the government, 471 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: the judicial branch, and get a probable cause warrant. And 472 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: we're saying you've got to do that here, particularly in 473 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: light of the fact that the FBI two hundred and 474 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 5: seventy eight thousand times didn't even follow their own protocols, 475 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 5: in their own rules when they search this database. I 476 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 5: think they researching they were supposed to put on themselves. 477 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 5: They didn't even follow those and illegally search the database. 478 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 5: That's why you got to go get a warrant? 479 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: What can you tell us about? 480 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: And then, by the way, we're glad obviously that that 481 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: this has been struck down and doesn't appear like it's 482 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: going to become a law, at least in the short term. 483 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of time talk about what's going to 484 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: happen with the speaker. You got caught up in all 485 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: the drama in October. Do you think that the speaker 486 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: is safe right now? How is this going to play 487 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: itself out? How would you analyze, for lack of a 488 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: better term, the horse race, that is, who's in charge 489 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: of the Republican House on a day to day basis. 490 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it makes sense to get a 491 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: third speaker in the same Congress, particularly six months before 492 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: the most important election we have determining who's going to 493 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: be our next commander in chief. So I don't think 494 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: that makes sense. Look, I didn't like to build a 495 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 5: pass a few weeks ago, particularly the part that I mean, 496 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 5: there was all kinds of things that I thought we 497 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 5: shouldn't be funding. But when we gave two hundred million 498 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 5: additional dollars for a new FBI headquarters, the same FBI 499 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 5: that you know spial on the presidential campaign instead of 500 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 5: our parent going to a school board meeting, you need 501 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 5: to be investigated, and on and on we go, I 502 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 5: didn't think that made any sense. So the things I 503 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: disagree with, But Mike Johnson's a good man. He's got 504 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: a really tough job, and I don't think it makes 505 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 5: sense for us to be changing speakers again in the 506 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 5: middle of this Congress, particularly when right now it looks like, 507 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 5: you know, President Trump is even up in all seven 508 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: of the swing stays, and I think we've got a 509 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: great chance of having President Trump in the White House, 510 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 5: which is what I'm one hundred percent for taking back 511 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 5: to the United States Senate and keeping the House and 512 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 5: then really getting the chance to do the things that 513 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 5: matters to American families. 514 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: You know, we've seen President Trump earlier today step off 515 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: of Trump Force one and address the press assembled and 516 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: do his usual Trump thing. Then he put on a 517 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: bit of a show, getting a bunch of milkshakes for 518 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: folks and doing his thing at Chick fil a. This, now, 519 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: this just happened. Congressman wanted to let you hear this. 520 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: This is Biden holding an official press conference and then 521 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: pulls out the list of pre approved questioners and this 522 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 4: is how it goes. 523 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: This is how it sounds. Thirty four players, next question? 524 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: Who I call on? Next? Here? 525 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 2: You are my list to. 526 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 5: Go pose. 527 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: AFP. I mean, it's just the contrast. 528 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 4: I don't understand how anybody can't see exactly what's going 529 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 4: on here Biden Trump, how they can actually process information. 530 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, they can see it. Everyone can see it. But 531 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: the left doesn't care because again back to what Governor 532 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: Luckab Sanders said, they're they're the party now. The Democrat 533 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: Party is completely controlled by the left, and the left 534 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 5: is crazy. It's all about stopping Trump, stopping the first amendments. 535 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 5: Like you, I mean, it's all that's what the left does, 536 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 5: and that's what we have to understand. That's why this 537 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 5: election is so non important. The contrast couldn't be clear. 538 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 5: And here's the other thing. Joe Biden will do some 539 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 5: events and there'll be four people show up. I've been 540 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 5: to the in the last month's been to two of 541 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 5: President Trump's rallies when when he's there, there are thousands 542 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 5: of people people waiting to get in, can't get in, 543 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 5: or outside watching it on the big screen because there 544 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 5: they know that there's this bond that exists between President 545 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 5: Trump and his voters because they know he's actually fight. 546 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 5: In fact, he has a great line he says, they're 547 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: coming after me because I'm fighting for you. They're coming 548 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: after my freedom because I'm fighting for yours. And the 549 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 5: country understands that Joe Biden, like you said, he's got 550 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 5: to read off a note card and go with the 551 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: pre approved media people to get a question in. 552 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: For goodness, take do you think. 553 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: That he's gonna You know, you listen to the show 554 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: some you know that Buck and I have a stake 555 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: bet on who is going to be the nominee. And 556 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: I think you've waged in a few times over the 557 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: last you know, six seven months, as we've talked about this, 558 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: when you see like that clip that we just played 559 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: where Biden has to pull out a note card and 560 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: figure out who is going to be called on when 561 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: you see him struggle, as he does anytime they take 562 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: him off the prompter at all. 563 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: A couple of questions. 564 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: Do you think we were talking earlier, do you think 565 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: they'll actually be debates? And secondly, if there are debates, 566 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: do you think Biden will be the Democrat nominee or 567 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: do you still think they're going to yank him at 568 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: the last minute. 569 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: I think there won't be debates because I think to 570 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 5: answer the second question, because I think he's still going 571 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 5: to be the nominee. I think they're there's no way 572 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 5: they're they're going to change it. I think Joe Biden 573 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 5: and Frankly maybe the first Lady are just cling to this. 574 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 5: They're not gonna They're not gonna leave. I think that's 575 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 5: gonna be our nominee. Uh. And the left, What what 576 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 5: really concerns me is what are they gonna try and next? 577 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 5: You know, think about this, this this against the they 578 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: spied on this campaign. Then it was Muller. Then it 579 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: was impeachment, then they raided his home. Then is Jack 580 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: Smith two different indictments, Fannie willis Alvin Bragg in two 581 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: different states, and then it's the fourteenth Amendment. What's coming next? 582 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: What are they gonna trust? Because we still got six 583 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 5: and a half months. You know, the one thing we 584 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 5: know about the left is they're relentless. There's gonna be 585 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 5: something that they that some new wrinkled days they throw 586 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 5: out that that tries to keep Joe Biden in the 587 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 5: White House. So but I still think he's gonna be 588 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 5: their nominee. And maybe you know, who knows, maybe the 589 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 5: last minute they do something at the convention or around 590 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 5: the convention. But I still think it's gonna be him. 591 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 5: But I don't think. 592 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: Good to know that Congress and Jim Jordan stands uh 593 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 4: right next to Buck on the island of of reason 594 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: and sanity, that Biden will be the nominee and there'll 595 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: be no debates. 596 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: Clay, He's we got two for two here. Yeah, I 597 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: know it's congressman. I mean, I don't know. 598 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I have to buy you a steak too, or 599 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: else you're gonna have to buy us a stake because uh, 600 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: I just I watched this and I just think to myself, 601 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: this can't be the plan. 602 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: But who knows. I mean, given what the things are going, 603 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: they're just gonna roll the dice. Maybe they are. 604 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: They're just going to throw him out there and say 605 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who the presidential candidate is, you got 606 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: to show up and vote for him either way. 607 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 5: It's sad because you know, in our great even though 608 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 5: we disagree with I know all three but disagree with 609 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 5: with President Biden's policy, he still our president and you 610 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 5: still want to even handle the duties of that most 611 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 5: important job, the most important job on the planet, and 612 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 5: you just everyone can see he's just not up to 613 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: the task, where by contrast, President Trump is no doubt 614 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: about it, no doubt about it. But it's it's a 615 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 5: sad situation we have with the current president. 616 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: Congress and Jim Jordan knows. Appreciate you stopping, buy stir 617 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: good to talk to you. 618 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: Thanks, take care. 619 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: I want to tell you this weekend, maybe you're looking 620 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: for some fun. March madness is over, there's not I 621 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: know a lot of you are gonna be watching the Masters, 622 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: but maybe you want to take the kids maybe you 623 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: want to. 624 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: Take the wife girlfriend. 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Find it in the Clay and. 652 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you 653 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 654 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Close enough, shop here shortly and it's led me afternoon. 655 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be downing a nice cup up Crockett 656 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: Coffee everybody. 657 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: Crockett Coffee dot com. 658 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 4: Keep it going, keep the subscriptions flowing, and the coffee 659 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: flowing for that matter, because it's absolutely delicious. We're gonna 660 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 4: have gear up there too, all kinds of fun stuff. 661 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: Eventually you're gonna be drinking your Crockett coffee, sitting on 662 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: your Crockett chair with your Krackett hat and your Crockett 663 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: hatchet and you know, et cetera, et cetera. 664 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: But we gotta start. 665 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: We got to start with our first and the loved 666 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 4: product of coffee. We've got some great VIP emails which 667 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: we want to get to, and I think we can 668 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: start with Stephanie. Democrat policies never solve anything. They only 669 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 4: want issues out there so they can use them to 670 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: beat Republicans. If issues are actually solved, they're solved by 671 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: Republicans or Republican policies. Democrats have nothing to run on 672 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: besides fear and grievance. 673 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: Keep up the great work. 674 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: I just say this, It depends on what you know, 675 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: what the goal is. I think for a lot of 676 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 4: Democrats the goal is emotional fulfillment. I think that for 677 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: a lot of Democrat policies it is the vanity that 678 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: comes from believing you support the good people, the right people, 679 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: and you never actually worry about results because the intention 680 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: is what matters. Unfortunately, this was also true of the Communists. 681 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: What about you, Clay, Yeah, Look, I think they're constantly 682 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: advancing the ball and the goal is to they recognize, 683 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: better than anybody, win elections, because without winning elections, you 684 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: have no power. Barack Obama's right, elections have consequences, and 685 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: I think they see Arizona as a state that if 686 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: they win Donald Trump, they basically blocked the presence. You remember, 687 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: there are forty three states that are already decided. This 688 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: is why some people get mad at me when I say, 689 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: if you're not voting for Trump, you're basically voting for Biden. 690 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 691 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: And I don't see this as a difficult choice. People 692 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: get mad when I. 693 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: Say, oh, if you're voting, if you're voting for a 694 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: third party in North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin, UH, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, 695 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: or Nevada, seven states that everybody agrees are going to 696 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: be toss up states. I think you are wasting your vote. 697 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: And I think if you're pouting because your favorite candidate 698 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: was Nicky Haley or your favorite candidate was Ronda Santis 699 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: or Tim Scott. 700 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: Or whoever it was, I think we're past that now, 701 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: don't you. 702 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 4: I think people had a little I was a little 703 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: You know, you're allowed to be a little frustrated. 704 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm not voting for Donald Trump. 705 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: No, are you still getting those Are you still getting 706 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 4: those emails? 707 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: And that's the voice, by the way that everybody who 708 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: sends those emails I read it. 709 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: I think I'm just going to throw this out there. 710 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: There may be some some flute players, perhaps some solo 711 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: ice cream eaters. We're trolling you a little bit with 712 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: these emails. You know, they realize how fired up it 713 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: gets you, so they keep sending you there. 714 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: Because no one's really good. 715 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: Oh, my Republican candidate didn't win the primary, so I'm 716 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: not going to vote for Trump. I don't hear anything. 717 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 4: I think the food players are kind of mobo players. 718 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: They're coming for you. If that is your position, tag 719 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: me and Buck right now. I guarantee you. We just 720 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 4: got deluged on Twitter. 721 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: And I get it. Some of those people, maybe Democrats 722 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: who are just like, oh, I'm going to troll. I 723 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: hate you know, playing Buck. I hope you guys, like 724 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, drown or whatever, die in some way. 725 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 726 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: I always want us to die in a really uncomfortable 727 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: way too, Yeah, never liked. I hope you die peaceably 728 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: surrounded by loved ones, Like I hope you're eighty five 729 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: and you know you die in your sleep. It's always like, 730 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: I hope you know you trip and fall in a 731 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: vat of honey and then you're stung to death by 732 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, a horde of angry bees. Like it's never 733 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: like a very nice way they want us to die. 734 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: But this is what I'm saying, Like, forty three states, 735 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: you can vote however you want. You love RFK, you 736 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: love Carnell West, you have forty three states are decided. 737 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Both parties would say, I'd like to bring Graham into 738 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: this conversation one of our VIPs. What's going on, Clay 739 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: is the negative Nancy today and Buck. 740 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 4: Is swinging into mild positivity. Well, thank you, Graham, I am. 741 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 4: I am capable of it. So there we go. 742 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: This, this decision in Arizona's got me rattled. I'm not 743 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna lie because the only way that Trump wins it 744 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: has to start with flipping Georgia, which I think he's 745 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: gonna do, and flipping Arizona. And I think Democrats got 746 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: a gift yesterday for Arizona. And I think it's gonna 747 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: be close, you know, a couple percentage points one way 748 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: or the other in Arizona. And I think if it 749 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: doesn't get fixed, and my concern is Democrats are not 750 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: incentivized to fix it, that it could swing Arizona back 751 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: the other direction. 752 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 4: And for the And this is obviously an incredibly complicated 753 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 4: argument because it takes its morality and political tactics enmeshed 754 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: into each other. And that's there's what's there's the perfect 755 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 4: moral position or the you know, the consistent moral position. 756 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 4: There's the how you can have the power to do 757 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: the best good you can even if you have that 758 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: position right, twenty one states, according to the Washington Post, 759 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 4: are now more restrictive than the Row regime was. So 760 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: while we're looking at all this and looking at how 761 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 4: this abortion debate is playing out, it used to be 762 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 4: that there were twenty one states that effectively had abortion, 763 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 4: you know, all the way up until viability or whatever. 764 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: Now they don't. That has changed. It's very new. This 765 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 4: is going to continue to progress. In Clay's home state 766 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 4: of Tennessee, it's pretty you know, I don't even like 767 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: the term restrictive, but it's pretty pro life. How about 768 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 4: that Tennessee is a very pro life state. And it's 769 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 4: not all falling apart. Not everyone's fleeing for the exits 770 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 4: or whatever. In fact, they can't even build enough housing 771 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 4: for all the people that want to move to Nashville. 772 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 4: So the long what I'm saying is the longer people 773 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 4: see that it's okay, more babies is good. You don't 774 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 4: need to have abortion all nine months of a pregnancy. 775 00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: This is what you know. 776 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: This is where the tactics I think comes in. There 777 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 4: is progress that has been made post Row. 778 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: I also believe this. 779 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: If you are concerned about the direction of the country, 780 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: the best thing you can do is have as many 781 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: babies as possible and raise your kids to be fighters 782 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: in the side of truth, justice in the American way. 783 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: And so that's my ultimate optimism. I've had three kids. 784 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: I wish I could have had six. I'm not gonna 785 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: do it, but I tell my boys all the time, 786 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: I want you guys to go forth and multiply have 787 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: as many kids once you get married as you possibly can. 788 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: I want as many people in Red States to be 789 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: having as many kids as they possibly can, because I 790 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: do think over time, red state politics win. 791 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 2: But it's a long range thing. 792 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: We are pro family and pro baby, and we don't 793 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 4: care who disagrees.