Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom huge. The President has declared
Speaker 1: a ban on travel between the US and Europe. Fears
Speaker 1: about coronavirus are higher than they've ever been. We will
Speaker 1: break down all of the latest for you on this issue.
Speaker 1: Try to avoid as much of the politics as we
Speaker 1: can and get into what really matters. Coming up. This
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Speaker 1: challenge and overcome adversity. Welcome to the Buck sex and Show, everybody.
Speaker 1: It was a tough night last night for those of
Speaker 1: us who were watching, and that was some some of
Speaker 1: the presidents addressed to the nation last night from the
Speaker 1: Oval Office. It was a bit of a wake up call,
Speaker 1: I think for many of us Now, let me start
Speaker 1: by saying that I have not changed my overall outlook
Speaker 1: here in the following way. I think that panic is
Speaker 1: not helpful. I think it's not warranted. And it is
Speaker 1: my belief that as long as we do everything that
Speaker 1: we can, and everyone does everything that they have been
Speaker 1: told will mitigate this virus, we will come out of
Speaker 1: this on the other side. Okay, I mean, we're definitely
Speaker 1: going to make it through. It's just a question of
Speaker 1: what damage will be done along the way. And we
Speaker 1: are seeing for the first time in the Trump presidency
Speaker 1: what I would call wartime Trump. This is a wartime issue.
Speaker 1: This is something that affects the lives of millions. Well,
Speaker 1: it affects all of our lives. So every single American
Speaker 1: is in some way affected by this. We all have
Speaker 1: loved ones who are in the higher risk categories. We
Speaker 1: all know people who are older and immunosuppressed, and we
Speaker 1: have to protect them. And there's a lot of government
Speaker 1: policy that comes into play here. It is distressing to
Speaker 1: see it. I'm going to try to avoid the petty partisanship.
Speaker 1: There are political arguments that are happening right now that
Speaker 1: we have to have because there are measures that are
Speaker 1: being taken. There are policies that are being debated in
Speaker 1: real time as I'm here speaking to you that will
Speaker 1: affect how we deal with this and also will help
Speaker 1: determine whether this is a crisis that we look back
Speaker 1: on and say we did pretty well or we got
Speaker 1: sucker punched. We weren't ready for it. We were not
Speaker 1: in a position to handle this properly. If we were
Speaker 1: talking in virus terms, you know, you all know the
Speaker 1: Defcon system, right if we're speaking about this in terms
Speaker 1: of a virus or a pandemic, and I'd say we're
Speaker 1: at We're at Defcon three. We are at an elevated
Speaker 1: state of readiness here. Decon three technically is the US
Speaker 1: arm US Armed Forces were ready to deploy in six hours,
Speaker 1: and it is an elevated state. We are an elevated
Speaker 1: state right now. It's interesting that the biggest outbreak was
Speaker 1: in China. We know that the biggest outbreak has been
Speaker 1: in China, but the and of course, as those of
Speaker 1: you that can see me on video now, every every
Speaker 1: time any of us touch our faces, which is very
Speaker 1: hard to avoid, you just think, oh gosh, what have
Speaker 1: I done? The biggest outbreak was in China, but it's
Speaker 1: Italy that I think has really rattled people. These stories
Speaker 1: coming out of Italy are gut wrenching. You have triage
Speaker 1: situations where this is now being reported on and lots
Speaker 1: and lots of news outlets across the country, Tria situations
Speaker 1: where they simply don't have the medical resources to handle
Speaker 1: the influx because they got to hit by a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of cases all at once. And now there are
Speaker 1: stories if the military trying to airlift people from the
Speaker 1: north of Italy and the other parts of the country. Look,
Speaker 1: there's obvious reason for concern, but there is not reason
Speaker 1: for panic, and those are different things. We have to
Speaker 1: keep this going. You. Last night, I I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that as I was listening to the President's speech even
Speaker 1: I had a moment and I fired off a tweet.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is a pandemic
Speaker 1: prey for us, and then I deleted it right away
Speaker 1: because I thought, what a come on, shields High. It's
Speaker 1: got to mean something. Now is when it really tests us.
Speaker 1: Right now we see who we are as a country
Speaker 1: and what kind of emotional and mental mental fortitude we
Speaker 1: have as individuals. When called together in collective action, wars, pandemics.
Speaker 1: There are only a few things that really bring us
Speaker 1: all into the same boat, and there's no way around it.
Speaker 1: And we are in the midst of a pandemic right now.
Speaker 1: And if the situation in Italy where there are also
Speaker 1: stories about people who are at who are not in
Speaker 1: the high risk population in terms of their age or
Speaker 1: being immunosuppressed or having a comorbidity, if that hasn't been
Speaker 1: a concerning enough for people, and that should be very
Speaker 1: concerning because you have stories at least anecdotal at this point,
Speaker 1: but people who were in their forties and fifties who
Speaker 1: are on in the ICU. Has that been verified? How many?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But this is now circulating and there's
Speaker 1: also a lot of a lot of hysteria and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of fake news circulating around about this. People
Speaker 1: also turning on each other. And this was I think
Speaker 1: my initial frustration or my greatest frustration he case, you know,
Speaker 1: I was faced with the liberal mentality on this a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago when I went out and I traveled
Speaker 1: on an airplane, was right when people were really starting
Speaker 1: to get worried about coronavirus, and it was clear that
Speaker 1: there were including Bill that the liberals around me, and
Speaker 1: it was everyone on that stage except for me was
Speaker 1: an avowed leftist liberal that their primary concern was to
Speaker 1: bash not just Trump, but also really to mock and
Speaker 1: ridicule anybody who is holding out faith and hope that
Speaker 1: the administration is doing everything they can not because I
Speaker 1: think they're so great or so perfect, and I could
Speaker 1: pick apart this administration's personnel, and I will pick apart
Speaker 1: the CDC later on this show. I used to work
Speaker 1: for the CIA, which if you're talking about a government
Speaker 1: organization that has its pick in terms of hiring and
Speaker 1: what feels like almost unlimited funding for the mission a
Speaker 1: lot of the time, and there was mediocrity, ineptitude, waste, abuse,
Speaker 1: and stupidity all over the place. Does anybody really think
Speaker 1: the CDC is like a bunch of super anti virus ninjas. Well,
Speaker 1: we already have some information that's come out that, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're helpful, they do some good stuff. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that we don't think. You know, I'm glad we have
Speaker 1: a CDC, but it's a reminder that if we're really
Speaker 1: gonna beat this thing, it's gonna take a lot more
Speaker 1: than no matter what kind of government agency action could
Speaker 1: have been mounted to help us in this process. But
Speaker 1: it was troubling to see. And I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be perfect, and I'm gonna say that
Speaker 1: right right up front. I'm gonna try to avoidoid taking
Speaker 1: taking jabs at the other side, even though they're they're
Speaker 1: on offense here. The anti Trump movement in this country,
Speaker 1: the never Trumpers, the Democrats, the left, the socialist the
Speaker 1: all the loons, you know, the people that are have
Speaker 1: been out marching in the streets for years. They can't
Speaker 1: help it. They're in a frenzy of barely subdued delight
Speaker 1: that they think this is going to finish off the
Speaker 1: Trump presidency and deliver it to the Democrats. It's appalling,
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. It's not surprising though, But I want to
Speaker 1: push back on their lives without trying to own them,
Speaker 1: as the kids say, you know, without trying to take
Speaker 1: any any cheap shots anything, petty. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be perfect in this because I'm only human too. And
Speaker 1: you know, I still remember my message if you ever
Speaker 1: saw it on the show on Bill Maher's show, was
Speaker 1: we all want them. You know, we all want the
Speaker 1: presidence to succeed here. We want no debts. This is
Speaker 1: about more than politics. And I came off and I
Speaker 1: was getting liberals writing me, I hope you get coronavirus
Speaker 1: and die. That's that's where that's where the left wing
Speaker 1: mentality has been on this all along, never mind at
Speaker 1: this moment where we're particularly particularly anxious about this, understandably so.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to try to make a promise you
Speaker 1: because we're going to be in this now for the
Speaker 1: next at least thirty probably more like sixty days, where
Speaker 1: this will be the dominant theme, the single news story
Speaker 1: that overshadows or does anyone even really you know, remember
Speaker 1: that we've we're in the midst of a presidential campaign
Speaker 1: right now, mist of a presidential election. Anybody even really
Speaker 1: thinking about that. And I'm not saying they should be
Speaker 1: focused on that. We got more We do have more
Speaker 1: important things right now. So while I'll talk about the
Speaker 1: politics as it affects policy, and I will have to
Speaker 1: push back on some of the lies in the unfairness,
Speaker 1: I will aspire on this show. You know, I always
Speaker 1: aspired it to be. I do have to sometimes call
Speaker 1: people out and say that people are being dumb when
Speaker 1: they're being dumb. I mean, I there are limits this right,
Speaker 1: but as a guiding principle, I will aspire to be
Speaker 1: not just fair minded about this, but also keep our
Speaker 1: disc when we're look I'm not also just gonna talk
Speaker 1: about coronavirus all day. I can't can't do that. That's
Speaker 1: not worth your time. Every day we come on here
Speaker 1: when this continues, when we're facing this pandemic, we'll do
Speaker 1: some updates, what matters, what's going on, where are we
Speaker 1: And then we're all going to talk about other things,
Speaker 1: and you know, Prouser Mark and I might even have
Speaker 1: a little gallows humor in here sometimes. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do that, because if you're gonna
Speaker 1: spend your time with me, it's not just going to
Speaker 1: be the blaring headlines that you're seeing all of the
Speaker 1: news ment to panic people, drive up ratings, keep everybody
Speaker 1: off balance and worried. That's not what we do here.
Speaker 1: It's never what we've done. So I'm really trying to
Speaker 1: recalibrate a little bit back to the core mission of
Speaker 1: making sure that I give you all the information I
Speaker 1: can on this that this is a place where I'll
Speaker 1: give you analysis. I mean, obviously, you go to any
Speaker 1: website and they've got they've got the number of confirmed cases,
Speaker 1: and I'll inform you about that, But also where are
Speaker 1: we really here? And this is where it also matters
Speaker 1: that you know, we all feel like a community. So
Speaker 1: I'll really appreciate all of your I know that there
Speaker 1: are I mean I can think off the top of
Speaker 1: my head of a handful of world class infectious disease
Speaker 1: specialists or immunologists or microbiologists who I know listen to
Speaker 1: this show. So those of you who have thoughts, who
Speaker 1: want to share your perspective, please do right in because
Speaker 1: we're we are hunkering down here. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: going to be battening down the hatches for a while.
Speaker 1: Producer Mark and I have been talking about how we're
Speaker 1: going to find a way to keep this show on
Speaker 1: the air no matter what, because they're still talk I mean,
Speaker 1: we're here in New York City, which has this big
Speaker 1: cluster of cases out in New Rochelle. But I mean
Speaker 1: I'm on the I was. I just got off the
Speaker 1: subway before I came on the show, and yeah, there
Speaker 1: are less people, but there are still people. Because life
Speaker 1: has to go on. We got to still keep doing
Speaker 1: what we do. And look, if I could stay home,
Speaker 1: if there were possibilities here that would allow us to
Speaker 1: continue doing everything we do without anybody being around anybody,
Speaker 1: I'd probably do that for the next thirty days. But
Speaker 1: that's not how it is right now. But if something changes,
Speaker 1: will find a way to make sure that our show
Speaker 1: goes on the air each night as it has been.
Speaker 1: We're making contingency plans for that, because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this right now. I mean, I'm being completely serious.
Speaker 1: If I end up having to quarantine just because of
Speaker 1: an exposure, God forbid even actually contracting this thing, as
Speaker 1: long as my lungs have air on them, I'm doing
Speaker 1: this show. I mean, as long as I have the
Speaker 1: physical capacity to do it, I will continue to do
Speaker 1: the show. So that's where we are on that. Also,
Speaker 1: last night, there wasn't just the President's speech. There was
Speaker 1: a bit of a double whammy effect. It felt like
Speaker 1: piling on. You had the news break that the NBA
Speaker 1: has canceled its entire season. It is very very likely,
Speaker 1: as I go to air that the NHL season will
Speaker 1: also be canceled, and you had Tom Hanks and his
Speaker 1: wife Rita Wilson I believe, both in Australia and confirmed
Speaker 1: to be with to have coronavirus. So you've one of
Speaker 1: the you know, arguably the most famous and celebrated American actor,
Speaker 1: not just of his generation, but some would say in
Speaker 1: the world. I mean, he's certainly in the top ten,
Speaker 1: you know, would be Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, some people put Harrison Ford whatever. That doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The point is guy super famous and that brings it
Speaker 1: home for people. That makes it seem more real. I
Speaker 1: think to a lot of folks, this uh, this recognition
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that anybody can get this. It
Speaker 1: does not matter. You know, this is a human disease.
Speaker 1: It does not matter you know how rich, how you know, underprivileged,
Speaker 1: you know what country you're from, with nationality. We have
Speaker 1: to do everything we can to use the knowledge that
Speaker 1: we have to try and defeat this thing. But the
Speaker 1: NBA season is canceled. Tom Hanks has this Saint Patrick's
Speaker 1: Day Parade in New York, Saint Patrick's Day Parade in
Speaker 1: Boston south by Southwest, that awesome has already canceled. Coachella
Speaker 1: out in California has been canceled. Major sporting events NC
Speaker 1: double A tournament's going to be played without fans in
Speaker 1: the stance I mean, just go down. I mean we're
Speaker 1: we are in we are in lockdown. That's where we are.
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about where we are with each other. Right,
Speaker 1: this is the situation, and you want to minimize contact
Speaker 1: with other individuals. You want to minimize certainly travel, all
Speaker 1: the things that you're hearing from from the CDC, because
Speaker 1: it's all about playing the odds and playing the numbers,
Speaker 1: righting them, doing the most you can, not just to
Speaker 1: elevate your own odds. Remember, there's this is where we
Speaker 1: do have an interdependency here. We all we all need
Speaker 1: to make sure that we take care of ourselves because
Speaker 1: in taking care of ourselves, we are better capable to
Speaker 1: take care of others and also we are less likely
Speaker 1: to unknowingly expose there's to possible infection. So this does
Speaker 1: start with the self. Each and every one of us
Speaker 1: has some degree of responsibility. Another point that I think
Speaker 1: we all need to remember. The number of cases you
Speaker 1: see right now is a fraction of the people that
Speaker 1: are walking around in this country today who have coronavirus.
Speaker 1: No one knows what that fraction is. But you will
Speaker 1: not find you will not find a single health expert
Speaker 1: who thinks that we know about every case or even
Speaker 1: close to every case. And if you look at a
Speaker 1: heat map, which is a map that shows density. Right,
Speaker 1: so if you look at at a heat map of
Speaker 1: the corona cases across the country. I was pouring over
Speaker 1: one this morning. It's all over the place. You're reading
Speaker 1: about it a lot in Washington and in New York,
Speaker 1: but this is all over the country. And this is
Speaker 1: something that we will need to confront as Americans right
Speaker 1: now if we want to avoid the situation that's playing
Speaker 1: out right now in Italy. There is reason, there are
Speaker 1: reasons for optimism. Optimism not that this is gonna good.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna go away. It's not a hoax. By
Speaker 1: the way, Trump never said it was a hoax, and
Speaker 1: this falls in the category I've got to push back
Speaker 1: on the crazy a little bit. Never said it was
Speaker 1: a hoax. They've been working on this and the testing problems.
Speaker 1: We keep hearing about rs CDC problem, the CDC in
Speaker 1: the manufacturing process, whatever that means messed up the initial
Speaker 1: testing kits. South Korea has gotten a pretty good hold
Speaker 1: on this virus. China has brought the curve down, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it's totally gone. Has brought the curve down. This
Speaker 1: also means that this virus will probably be something that
Speaker 1: we have to deal with for the foreseeable until a
Speaker 1: cure or a vaccine comes up, and that could be
Speaker 1: a lot longer than people think. Yeah, I said this
Speaker 1: to you, and I wasn't trying to be glib, but
Speaker 1: how's how's that common cold vaccine coming home? Now? The
Speaker 1: cold is hundreds of different viruses and that's part of
Speaker 1: why it's very hard to get a vaccine for it.
Speaker 1: But this could be more complicated than we think it is.
Speaker 1: It's just because it's going into human trials early look
Speaker 1: as a positive sign. I'm not trying to ignore that.
Speaker 1: But you know, we need to stay we need to
Speaker 1: stay absolutely focused here on what we know, and we
Speaker 1: need to take care of each other. You're in the
Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Literally
Speaker 1: just got an update. Literally just got an update from
Speaker 1: producer Mark right after I say yeah, the NHL has
Speaker 1: canceled their season, so and other sports conferences right, who
Speaker 1: else is suspended? The NHL are both things suspended? Okay,
Speaker 1: so it could come back theoretically. And we've got conference
Speaker 1: conferences like the Big Ten, Big twelve canceling their conference tournaments.
Speaker 1: NC Double A still is onto play without fans, but
Speaker 1: that might be in question now. So it looks like
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a big everybody. Just get ready for
Speaker 1: waves and waves of cancelations. You know, stay home, Netflix
Speaker 1: video games, that's what that's what we want to be
Speaker 1: doing here. Read, stay away from people, social distancing. These
Speaker 1: are all good practices. They're not perfect, and they're not absolutes.
Speaker 1: If you gotta go out, you gotta go out, you
Speaker 1: gotta get food, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: But these are all good practices to have. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: dot com for updates on upcoming games. So sports are
Speaker 1: in rough shape right now. We got cancelations. We just
Speaker 1: talked about the NHL post suspending as producer Marcus point
Speaker 1: of suspending the season. Other leagues are suspending. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they suspend long enough, it's going to be basically canceled.
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring in Clay Travis to talk to
Speaker 1: that issue, but also his thoughts on just everything we're
Speaker 1: facing around now. Clay is the host of OutKick the Coverage,
Speaker 1: very popular podcast and also the author of the book
Speaker 1: Republicans by Sneakers Too. Clay, thanks for joining us. Are
Speaker 1: you in Nashville right now? I am in Nashville, particulamy Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So tell me what's going on here. First off, with
Speaker 1: this NBA player who tested positive, I saw something that
Speaker 1: he also had made a joke earlier about having coronavirus.
Speaker 1: Then turn out he did. Well, what can you tell
Speaker 1: us about what's going on with the NBA and coronavirus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert is a player for the Zuka Jazz and
Speaker 1: he had made a joke a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: at a press conference about the coronavirus by like rubbing
Speaker 1: his hand all over the microphones that he was being
Speaker 1: interviewed on as he walked out, and obviously, ever wine
Speaker 1: Hart is, he was not taking it seriously. He got
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. He also has given it to at least
Speaker 1: one of his teammates. And obviously this has since spiraled
Speaker 1: into a mate your issue in the world of sports
Speaker 1: and beyond, because it's the quarantine situation that everybody has.
Speaker 1: Once one player on one team gets it, that entire
Speaker 1: team is required to quarantine, and so are to a
Speaker 1: certain extent, all of the players who played against that player.
Speaker 1: So it is spiraled into a ongoing I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say crisis for the world of sports, which
Speaker 1: is unlike anything I've ever seen before, where one by one,
Speaker 1: different leagues and different tournaments are making the decision basically
Speaker 1: to call off their games. What does this mean, you think,
Speaker 1: just I mean, look, there's so many angles on this one,
Speaker 1: but let's start with just the health of the of
Speaker 1: the league's pardon the expression, but you know the financial
Speaker 1: impact this is going to have an Arenas I saw
Speaker 1: something that Mark Cuban is making an effort. He says,
Speaker 1: for at least for the for the mavericks to take
Speaker 1: care of hourly employees who are obviously going to be
Speaker 1: in really rough shape with the season of the season
Speaker 1: being shut down. What can you tell us about how
Speaker 1: they're trying to mitigate the impact economically, Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's a big challenge, right And honestly, this
Speaker 1: is me putting my lawyer had on. I'm already kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, purely from a legal perspective, utterly fascinated to
Speaker 1: see what all these lawsuits and insurance contracts are going
Speaker 1: to look like. Because you can probably imagine this. For
Speaker 1: years and years, pro sports leagues have been taking out
Speaker 1: insurance in the event that something wild happens which necessitates
Speaker 1: games not taking place, maybe the cancelation of seasons, and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the economic value of that
Speaker 1: would be. You know, you probably pay what do you think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know. I'd love to get
Speaker 1: an insurance expert on, but several million dollars to ensure
Speaker 1: that your season is going to continue to take place,
Speaker 1: but your payoff is going to be massive in the
Speaker 1: event that it happens. And it kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of in terms of in terms of the unlikelihood of
Speaker 1: it of what happened after nine to eleven when for
Speaker 1: for warriors out there, they will remember there was a
Speaker 1: big lawsuit over whether the two planes that hit the
Speaker 1: twin towers were one event or two events, because it
Speaker 1: impacted in a big way what sort of recovery there
Speaker 1: was going to be under the insurance contract. And I
Speaker 1: don't even remember what the resolution of that case was.
Speaker 1: For you think about the thirty different places out there, right,
Speaker 1: the thirty different uh you know, NBA arenas, and the
Speaker 1: thirty different teams and all of the different aspects of
Speaker 1: that that they will have set up, and all the
Speaker 1: lawsuits that willon school. It's just kind of massive to
Speaker 1: think about. Now, are there any leagues that are are
Speaker 1: you that are right now planning to sort of just
Speaker 1: continue with contingency operations with no fans in the stands
Speaker 1: going forward? I mean, who, who? How? How are adaptations
Speaker 1: working here for other for any other sports leagues or
Speaker 1: any other events happening so quickly honestly that I like,
Speaker 1: if I haven't checked my phone, I almost hesitate to say,
Speaker 1: because something might have happened in the last five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that actually just happened to me. I said, the
Speaker 1: NHL is thinking about canceling, and then it came back
Speaker 1: from a break and then turns out there canceling. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: So so I mean, I think that's the challenge you
Speaker 1: buck right now, is that literally it's almost impossible to
Speaker 1: keep up with how quickly this story is moving now.
Speaker 1: I've also seen you know, you're somebody who has been
Speaker 1: pretty vocal on social media, and I'll just say, you
Speaker 1: and I haven't talked about this yet. I've been taking
Speaker 1: the position that you know, this is a be vigilant,
Speaker 1: take clip acautions, but they're really People say there's no
Speaker 1: need to panic, and that almost then incites panic. You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's like Will Ferrell and old School when he
Speaker 1: says keep your composure and he's like flinging the chair
Speaker 1: around the locker room and freaking out. I think that
Speaker 1: there's a psychological effect that it has. Some people say don't,
Speaker 1: but I really don't. You know, I think sometimes there
Speaker 1: can be a need for panic, you know, there can
Speaker 1: be a need for everybody hit the exits, and we're
Speaker 1: not there. I don't think we're anywhere close to there.
Speaker 1: Walk me through where you know your evolution and thinking
Speaker 1: about the risks here as somebody who pays very close
Speaker 1: attention to the news has been vocal about this. You know,
Speaker 1: where where'd you start? And after what we saw last
Speaker 1: life from President Trump? And how worried are you? Man?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really the question. I am not incredibly worried,
Speaker 1: all right. I think it's an interesting question. And let
Speaker 1: me just take a step back. I tend to be
Speaker 1: a guy like and you probably as well, because you're
Speaker 1: a smart guy. When I was a kid, I was
Speaker 1: scared of everything, right, like a young kid, because you're
Speaker 1: aware that there is danger in the world, but you'll
Speaker 1: lack the ability to unpack probabilities and statistics of what
Speaker 1: that danger represents. So like you're willing to go into
Speaker 1: the ocean a little bit. You know there's sharks out there,
Speaker 1: but you're not smart enough to understand what the chances
Speaker 1: are of a shark actually biting you, right, And so
Speaker 1: I was terrified of things like that as a kid,
Speaker 1: and as I got older, I used sort of my
Speaker 1: fear as a The way that I would weaponize against
Speaker 1: it is by diving into facts and data in order
Speaker 1: to try to uncover the answer there, right, and so
Speaker 1: I believe that most of us are very safe right
Speaker 1: from this pandemic. Right now, according to the most recent
Speaker 1: data I've seen, there are ten people in serious or
Speaker 1: critical condition in the entirety of the country, and they're
Speaker 1: thirty eight deaths. I believe what scary is if we
Speaker 1: went in the direction of Italy, which is about seventy
Speaker 1: five times as bad when you adjust prefer capita as
Speaker 1: what we have in the country right now, that would change.
Speaker 1: My hope is that we're going to move more parts
Speaker 1: what South Korea and China how we're able to do
Speaker 1: in terms of virtually eradicating the outbreak in their country,
Speaker 1: as opposed to towards Italy and Europe. And I think
Speaker 1: what Trump has done is basically say, hey, Europe is
Speaker 1: a powder keg right now. It's in danger of becoming
Speaker 1: China like, and so we need to keep people from
Speaker 1: coming from Europe to our country and reigniting more cases
Speaker 1: going forward. And in terms of the statistics on mortality
Speaker 1: rate and all the numbers that you're seeing, there's this
Speaker 1: big debate over is it worse than the flu? Is
Speaker 1: it similar to flu? Do you have? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I know you're not an epidemiologist or a doctrine either,
Speaker 1: am I. But from the latest data that you've seen
Speaker 1: that you been diving into, what's your take on the
Speaker 1: both the ability of this thing to spread comparatively to
Speaker 1: other diseases that we see that are like it and
Speaker 1: the mortality rates. I mean, you mentioned Italy versus versus
Speaker 1: South Korea. How bad is it in South Korea? Okay?
Speaker 1: So South Korea is the best case scenario. And the
Speaker 1: data that we have seen from South Korea reflects that
Speaker 1: if you get the coronavirus in South Korea, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter how old you are. But obviously this impacts people
Speaker 1: a lot older. But ninety nine point three or ninety
Speaker 1: nine point four percent of all patients are recovering, that is,
Speaker 1: they are not dying, which mean that point six or
Speaker 1: point seven percent of people are dying from this. So
Speaker 1: that's the best case scenario, is what's going on in
Speaker 1: South Korea. And I tend to think that our medical
Speaker 1: system would be more similar to South Korea's than it would,
Speaker 1: say to Italy's or certainly other countries. That the fear
Speaker 1: that I think is out there is that the coronavirus.
Speaker 1: We're still learning the transmission rates. The World Health Organization
Speaker 1: has said that it is less contagious the coronavirus is
Speaker 1: than the flu. Okay, others have disagreed. I think this
Speaker 1: just a reflects the fact that we're in a very
Speaker 1: early stage of understanding this disease. And so the question
Speaker 1: what you're going to be asked, and I think will
Speaker 1: be utterly fascinating as we move forward, is why did
Speaker 1: Italy have the problems that they had? Now? Maybe it's
Speaker 1: the fact that the country is older, right, Italy is
Speaker 1: one of the oldest countries in the world. They are
Speaker 1: very social in the way that they kiss right like,
Speaker 1: they are very close in terms of personal contact contact.
Speaker 1: They have a massive purist crowd that was coming over
Speaker 1: from Asia. They may have had outbreaks that similarly broke
Speaker 1: out all at the same time. There their overall infrastructure
Speaker 1: at hospitals, maybe a severe leak decrepit compared to other countries.
Speaker 1: I think this will be for epidemiologists an incredibly interesting
Speaker 1: study when all of this has passed, to try to
Speaker 1: figure out and learn for the future, what did South
Speaker 1: Korea do so well, did Italy do so poorly? And
Speaker 1: which direction its United States going to go? In terms
Speaker 1: of being South Korea, like where we basically end this
Speaker 1: outbreak before it has a systemic overlapping, you know, delitarious
Speaker 1: effect for the country, or are we going to spiral
Speaker 1: into a tail spin of aneptitude much like has happened
Speaker 1: in Italy. Now, do you think that it was the
Speaker 1: right move to cancel all these sporting events and arenas
Speaker 1: and stuff. Women, If if you were if you were
Speaker 1: the professional sport czar for America, would you say, yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: we need to do this. Well, I think Rudy Gobert
Speaker 1: put it all on steroids because once you get a
Speaker 1: player who test positive, then that team's going to have
Speaker 1: to be pulled out of competition. So I don't know
Speaker 1: that the NBA has any other options once were Gobert
Speaker 1: test positive. And I think that is why all these
Speaker 1: other leagues are acting the way they are, because they're saying, oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to have a player in the same situation
Speaker 1: and Rudy go there, Let's go ahead and keep this
Speaker 1: from happening. And I believe that is the biggest challenge
Speaker 1: that is out there. Is basically skipped a step, because
Speaker 1: I think the step was going to go from no crowds,
Speaker 1: right from crowds to no crowds, playing in front of
Speaker 1: no crowds, and I think that might have held for
Speaker 1: a month, or might have even been able to last
Speaker 1: for a long time, but for the fact that Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert got the flu, which jumps you right from well,
Speaker 1: playing in front of no crowds is not an option anymore.
Speaker 1: Let's wipe out the whole season for suspension right now.
Speaker 1: I remember, it's not canceled, it's suspended. And so we'll
Speaker 1: see the whether that suspension is lifted and we returned
Speaker 1: to the rest of the season depends on how things
Speaker 1: go in the weeks and months ahead. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: you heard it from that himself, Clay Travis. Check out
Speaker 1: his podcast I'll kick the coverage. Check out his book
Speaker 1: Republicans by Sneers too. Clay, thanks for making the time.
Speaker 1: Stay safe, Heydre wash your hands the same for you,
Speaker 1: my man. I appreciate you have me on You're in
Speaker 1: the Freedom, hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 1: You said some breaking news. We're gonna have breaking news
Speaker 1: throughout the show. I think on this the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: of Canada, Justin Trudeau, is now self isolating over coronavirus fierce.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not been confirmed to have it, but
Speaker 1: he's self isolating because of concern that he may be
Speaker 1: and he may have been in contact. His wife has
Speaker 1: flu like symptoms, so they're testing her. That's why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the I mean, I'm not trying to be even
Speaker 1: clip or funny about this at all. Literally, I just
Speaker 1: now you recognize more than ever how much you touch
Speaker 1: your face. And I'm sitting here and I'm doing a
Speaker 1: radio show and we also broadcasted on Pluto TV, and man,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to not touch your face. Trudeau is
Speaker 1: the first head of state that I know of who
Speaker 1: has been looking. We don't have his wife has coronavirus.
Speaker 1: They're still flu out there, so there are people that
Speaker 1: have very similar symptom profiles to those with coronavirus who
Speaker 1: actually have standard influenza, which I would note is also
Speaker 1: not anything to be taken lightly. But we're just not
Speaker 1: we know more about it, you know, we know that
Speaker 1: it's um considered less a less serious disease than coronavirus
Speaker 1: at this point, so it's possible that his wife has
Speaker 1: just the flu. But obviously everyone right now is very
Speaker 1: concerned that anything that seems like it's flu is going
Speaker 1: to be is going to be. And also, I look,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make some big political statement. It's
Speaker 1: coronavirus is a family of viruses that's not really it
Speaker 1: should be called wuhan virus, so we know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Uhan virus is what causes COVID nineteen, and
Speaker 1: no one really is going to call it COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to make some big political statement.
Speaker 1: I just think that we call all all these other diseases.
Speaker 1: I don't know why all of a sudden we're supposed
Speaker 1: to change. I mean, it should be called the Wuhan virus,
Speaker 1: but I'm one. This is just you got ahead of
Speaker 1: state of a country. Right next door are close our
Speaker 1: close friends, our brothers and sisters in Canada, and this
Speaker 1: is clearly going to get a lot of attention because
Speaker 1: if the wife has COVID, so I just did it.
Speaker 1: If the wife has I guess we're gonna keep calling
Speaker 1: coronavirus till we all agree we can call something else.
Speaker 1: But if the wife has the virus, then there's a
Speaker 1: very good possibility that the Prime Minister of Canada. Now,
Speaker 1: as we all know, he is young and healthy, so
Speaker 1: chances are he would have statistically speaking, he would have
Speaker 1: a something like a cold. You know, it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: that's what eighty percent of people have. You know, they
Speaker 1: have some shortness of breath, they have a cold that
Speaker 1: you know, it attacks their system, but they're okay. But
Speaker 1: there are other heads of state, including in this one,
Speaker 1: who are at an elevated risk profile because of their age.
Speaker 1: They've I didn't even mention this at the start of
Speaker 1: the show. There's so many things. They've shut Capitol Hill
Speaker 1: and the Pentagon from visitors, so they're still conducting business.
Speaker 1: But there have been some staffers on Capitol Hill who
Speaker 1: have come down, some Senate staffers, I believe, and there
Speaker 1: will be more. I mean, if there's a couple of
Speaker 1: Senate staffers, there's gonna be more Senate staffers. They're all
Speaker 1: moving around the same hallways, breathing the same air, interacting
Speaker 1: in these places. So it's it's very likely that you're
Speaker 1: going to see a number spike on Capitol Hill of
Speaker 1: confirmed cases, and we're Tom Hanks has it, We're going
Speaker 1: to see more people who you would think, oh, they
Speaker 1: don't have to worry. And I know that no one
Speaker 1: consciously thinks about this, but you know, you think about
Speaker 1: very influential, powerful celebrities, and you know politicians, it's easy
Speaker 1: to get in your head. Ah well, they're they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not somebody that has to really worry about this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure the flu actually killed a
Speaker 1: Czar of Russia in the nineteenth century. And that's just
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: this stuff happens. Very famous, very powerful, very influential people
Speaker 1: can succumb to this. I mean, this is this is
Speaker 1: a human condition that we are also concerned about. This
Speaker 1: is any human being is susceptible to this. And unless
Speaker 1: you are in a hermetically sealed box and having somebody
Speaker 1: bring you food that has been sterilized all the time,
Speaker 1: I mean, no one is perfectly safe from this. And
Speaker 1: I and I worried at the kind. You know that
Speaker 1: there are some some panic points that I think are coming.
Speaker 1: The panic points are going to revolve around if look,
Speaker 1: let's just say it, if if Trump or Biden or
Speaker 1: Bernie or Schumer or Pelosi or McConnell or any of
Speaker 1: the eld notice I'm picking those names. Those are all
Speaker 1: not just powerful politicians country. They're all older. They're all
Speaker 1: pretty much, you know, in their late sixties, into the
Speaker 1: into the seventies, all the way up to Sanders is
Speaker 1: almost eighty. And they're still shaking hands. Although I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna stop that. They're gonna have to cancel all
Speaker 1: political rallies. They're effectively gonna have to suspend, not cancel,
Speaker 1: because we understand the importance for political I mean for
Speaker 1: a professional sports right now, the difference they're going to
Speaker 1: have to suspend the presidential election. In a sense, not
Speaker 1: all of it. People can still you know, write stories
Speaker 1: and put out their stuff online. And aren't we all,
Speaker 1: in a sense very lucky to have the Internet enabled
Speaker 1: world that we live in where we still have all
Speaker 1: this communication and instant information. And now I know there's
Speaker 1: a bad side of it, because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: hysteria and panic that this is coming from, but I
Speaker 1: want to dig into what I think is well, let's
Speaker 1: talk about some more of what Trump said last night,
Speaker 1: and then also look at what's comings that we're all
Speaker 1: prepared for it. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson
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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. After consulting with our
Speaker 1: top government health professionals, I have decided to take several
Speaker 1: strong but necessary actions to protect the health and well
Speaker 1: being of all Americans. To keep new cases from entering
Speaker 1: our shores, we will be suspending all travel from Europe
Speaker 1: to the United States for the next thirty days. The
Speaker 1: new rules will go into effect Friday at midnight. These
Speaker 1: restrictions will be adjusted subject to conditions on the ground.
Speaker 1: There will be exemptions for Americans who have undergone appropriate screenings.
Speaker 1: And these prohibitions will not only apply to the commendous
Speaker 1: amount of trade in cargo, but various other things. As
Speaker 1: we get approval. Anything coming from Europe to the United
Speaker 1: States is what we are discussing. These restrictions will also
Speaker 1: not apply to the United Kingdom. So that was the
Speaker 1: biggest policy moment last night during their President's address, and that,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest that for me, that was kind of
Speaker 1: the old crap moment, because this is that's a real escalation,
Speaker 1: stopping flights from China. You could say, well, why is
Speaker 1: that so different. Well, one as much as China's a
Speaker 1: billion people. We tend to think of China's one country
Speaker 1: stopping flights from all of Europe, and I believe we
Speaker 1: have significantly more air travel from Europe the US than
Speaker 1: we do from China. Just felt like it got a
Speaker 1: whole lot closer to us. Maybe that's just a perception thing,
Speaker 1: but that was a moment where it's clear the administration
Speaker 1: is now. As I said at the top, I mean
Speaker 1: Trump is this is wartime Trump. You are seeing wartime
Speaker 1: Trump right now. Decisions that are being made will affect lives.
Speaker 1: The federal government has a role to play here the
Speaker 1: same way that federal government usually we talk about just
Speaker 1: letting letting the market do its thing, and no, we
Speaker 1: can't just let the market do its thing on this.
Speaker 1: There is a government in response the same way that
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be left to, you know, the free market.
Speaker 1: If North Korea invaded California tomorrow. This is where the
Speaker 1: government has a role as well as a massive role
Speaker 1: for the private sector. You know, I mean tell you this,
Speaker 1: if we see a cure or more likely and I
Speaker 1: think in a sense even more a cure is going
Speaker 1: to be a vaccine, and who knows when that will
Speaker 1: actually be On the market, although I do believe they have.
Speaker 1: I believe they have vaccine now for a bola for example,
Speaker 1: which years ago people thought maybe that was a challenge
Speaker 1: you would not be able to meet so quickly. It's
Speaker 1: going to take a while a treatment though. For this.
Speaker 1: What has to happen is have something that helps people
Speaker 1: that even just suppresses the attack on lungs. That's really
Speaker 1: where this goes. It attacks, it causes interstitial pneumonia in
Speaker 1: both lungs, is there really and once it gets in
Speaker 1: the lungs and both lungs and the inflammation and the
Speaker 1: difficulty breathing and the strain that that puts on the
Speaker 1: rest of the organs, and it's very that's where in
Speaker 1: the particularly at risk populations you have the fatalities coming.
Speaker 1: And also where you have people who are in an
Speaker 1: ICU for two three weeks, perhaps even more under very
Speaker 1: precarious and uncomfortable and difficult circumstances. Right, I mean, the
Speaker 1: mortality rate unfortunately does not it is not the only
Speaker 1: thing to really be concerned about here. We're also going
Speaker 1: to be that are in the ICU for a month,
Speaker 1: two or three weeks maybe more. You know, that's what's
Speaker 1: going to happen. And that's no, they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: the ICU able to get visitors. And and you know
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be tough for for a while there.
Speaker 1: It's very and and also it's going to be a fight, right,
Speaker 1: It's it's one thing. I mean, the ICU. If you
Speaker 1: know your prognosis is, oh, it's you're gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: just give it time, which I mean, I guess then
Speaker 1: you probably considered stable. I don't know how long you'll
Speaker 1: be in the ICU, but if you're on a ventilator,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's and that's going to be a closer
Speaker 1: fought battle than any of us ever want to be
Speaker 1: in that position. So look, this is uh, this is
Speaker 1: where we get into now the travel ban and how
Speaker 1: that might help. And look, it is going to help.
Speaker 1: And I'm a little bit stunned to see that there
Speaker 1: are people out there and we're going to some of
Speaker 1: the politics of this. Right. Look, today's today's a today's
Speaker 1: a sober day, a solemn day in a sense on
Speaker 1: the show, right there's like we're going to ease into
Speaker 1: some other topics and some other things. But you know,
Speaker 1: right now, I mean the country, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: a wake up call, and we're at war with a virus.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening right now. I said, I think to you,
Speaker 1: even just yesterday, it's gonna be a day when I
Speaker 1: come in. I knew it was going to happen, given
Speaker 1: the trend in the last two weeks or so. I
Speaker 1: didn't know it would be here right away. I didn't
Speaker 1: know it would be here now. But that's where we are.
Speaker 1: We are, as I said, we're not at def Con one.
Speaker 1: This is not all out. You know, we don't have
Speaker 1: marshal law. We're at virus Defcon three. You know, we're
Speaker 1: at maybe maybe def conto, but def Con three for sure.
Speaker 1: So the President talks about this travel ban, and what
Speaker 1: could be more intuitive than you know, the big concern.
Speaker 1: I have to understand that the concern that all the
Speaker 1: policymakers have right now that everyone's trying to figure out
Speaker 1: is not only stopping the spread of this, but elong
Speaker 1: getting the curve in the spike of cases. Because let's
Speaker 1: just well, this is this is make believe maths. These
Speaker 1: are not real numbers. But just let's say in a
Speaker 1: country you have I'll just say a rant make believe
Speaker 1: country too. Let's say the country of Bukistan has ten thousand,
Speaker 1: ten thousand beds for ICU patients and five thousand ventilators, right, which,
Speaker 1: let's just say that that's the case, and you bring
Speaker 1: in and you have one hundred cases of coronavirus, and
Speaker 1: of that hundred cases, you have ten people who need,
Speaker 1: you know, who need that critical care, You're you're in
Speaker 1: good shape. But if you have a thousand people who
Speaker 1: are cases of coronavirus and they spread it, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have fifteen thousand cases, you
Speaker 1: only have ten thousand beds and they all come in
Speaker 1: at the same time because the spread has been allowed
Speaker 1: to happen very rapidly, all at once because there have
Speaker 1: not been mitigation measures. Then you get people that are
Speaker 1: in the hallway at the hospital unable to breathe, and
Speaker 1: the doctors are having to do triage as though we're
Speaker 1: in a mass casualty disaster like an earthquake that's killed
Speaker 1: thousands of people, or a mass casualty terror attack or
Speaker 1: something where they're just trying to keep as many people
Speaker 1: live as they can and making decisions about who's going
Speaker 1: to live in who's not. So even if if you
Speaker 1: only have ten thousand beds and you end up having
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand cases, but you only have you know,
Speaker 1: let's say a few thousand a month coming through, your
Speaker 1: medical system can handle that. If you get you know,
Speaker 1: twenty thousand cases in one month and only ten thousand beds,
Speaker 1: now you've got a huge problem. So the timing of
Speaker 1: the spread of the virus really does matter to the
Speaker 1: public health, to the health system in general, and that's
Speaker 1: why limiting flights, everything that we can do to keep
Speaker 1: the numbers low as long as we can is critical.
Speaker 1: And yet you have people out there like Obama, White House,
Speaker 1: Ebolazar Ron Lane who says this play play thirteen. Look,
Speaker 1: I think part of this, Rachel is the classic Trump
Speaker 1: distraction tactic. He wants to see progressives debate to travel ban,
Speaker 1: so and so forth, and not come after where he
Speaker 1: has failed. We have tested five people out of every
Speaker 1: million in this country, and Korea they've tested two thousand
Speaker 1: people out of every million in their country. There is
Speaker 1: no reason why South Korea doesn't have technology we don't have,
Speaker 1: or a healthcare system we don't have, or anything we
Speaker 1: don't have. It is a failure of leadership. Of the
Speaker 1: Trump administration. He is doing anything he can to move
Speaker 1: the conversation elsewhere, to get us to talk about something
Speaker 1: else and not focus the fact that even tonight, even
Speaker 1: in that Oval Office address, all they can say about
Speaker 1: testing is we're going to do more of it sometime
Speaker 1: some number of people. We're getting there. Right. That's that's
Speaker 1: job one. That's job number one. Travel ban is a distraction.
Speaker 1: Is a reckless and stupid thing to say. Every I'm
Speaker 1: paying attention to what actual experts are saying, but all
Speaker 1: this different stuff, and you know, there have been conflicting numbers.
Speaker 1: You know, I saw early on people who were saying
Speaker 1: that they they were thinking the numbers. The mortality. Remember
Speaker 1: the mortality rate we're initially told was three point six
Speaker 1: percent around there in Italy. Right now the estimating it's
Speaker 1: it's at six percent, which is very high, which is
Speaker 1: why Italy is really this is this case study that
Speaker 1: has everyone so concerned. Now it looks like global mortality
Speaker 1: is closer to one percent, but that's still ten times
Speaker 1: the flu's mortality rate, which is point one percent, right,
Speaker 1: So the numbers are changing, The data is changing, you know,
Speaker 1: just because an expert says one thing, today. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they're not going to be wrong or change their opinion tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But I've seen no experts who make the case that
Speaker 1: limiting travel from I mean actual medical experts who care
Speaker 1: about keeping people alive. Ron claims a political operative, he's
Speaker 1: a hack. Okay, he's worked for you know, the Clinton's,
Speaker 1: the Obamas. I mean, this is what this is what
Speaker 1: this guy does, and he was put in charge of
Speaker 1: the abolis bons by the administration. Ebola is much easier
Speaker 1: to contain than this virus. The Wuhan virus is airborne,
Speaker 1: is easy to contract, and is spread rapidly through casual contact.
Speaker 1: Ebola you have to get someone's blood in your system. Basically,
Speaker 1: you have to get the you know, there their actual
Speaker 1: excretions in your system. That's different. You know, there weren't
Speaker 1: clouds of blood in the air that people could walk
Speaker 1: through and get a bola from. That's not how it works.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot easier to contain. But my point,
Speaker 1: you're just being you know, what this guy is saying
Speaker 1: is unhelpful. This is exactly the kind of cheap, petty
Speaker 1: politics when people are really worried. Right now, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure every person out there who who's taking a
Speaker 1: lot of time out of their day to trash Trump
Speaker 1: and say that he's doing a bad job on this
Speaker 1: has people that there were about him and people in
Speaker 1: my life that I have elevated concern for because they're
Speaker 1: at higher risk and you know, and look, anybody's at
Speaker 1: risk in a sense, and you know you've got this
Speaker 1: kind of a disease, you don't know your system is
Speaker 1: going to react. I'm not trying to scare people more
Speaker 1: than we're already scared. But you know, nobody wants to
Speaker 1: get this. Nobody wants to get this, especially people that
Speaker 1: are in the higher risk category. But everybody should be
Speaker 1: concerned about it. Why why pretend that the travel ban
Speaker 1: is not something that's going to have any effect. That's
Speaker 1: helpful if the whole problem is trying or I should say,
Speaker 1: if the primary effort right now is trying to prevent
Speaker 1: their being a huge immediate spike in cases, limiting the
Speaker 1: influx of people from places where they've already had or
Speaker 1: are undergoing right now a particularly high percentage of people
Speaker 1: infected with this virus. Of course, that's a good idea,
Speaker 1: and to focus on the community spread. This is a
Speaker 1: walk in chew gum situation. Yes, we focus on community
Speaker 1: spread and we stop the importation of the disease. It's
Speaker 1: very straightforward when you think about it. But there look,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of nonsense from brainless Democrats out there
Speaker 1: right now who are taking this as an opportunity they think,
Speaker 1: and I have to say this, this needs to be
Speaker 1: There are people for whom you know, Russia collusion and
Speaker 1: the Ukraine impeachment and you know, all this stuff that
Speaker 1: they've been that they've been saying about Trump, and they've
Speaker 1: just been wrong. They've been wrong and wrong and wrong
Speaker 1: and lies and wrong. Now they think that they finally
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to get their way and bring about
Speaker 1: the end of this administration. And they can't even think
Speaker 1: straight about what's happening in the country right now. Pardon me,
Speaker 1: they can't even think straight about that because they're so
Speaker 1: focused on using this to score points against the president.
Speaker 1: It's very disheartening and we should all be on guard
Speaker 1: against this because they're also I mean, this guy is
Speaker 1: this guy's somebody who is an Obola containment czar under
Speaker 1: Obama and he's going on TV to tell millions of
Speaker 1: people that the travel ban doesn't matter, which then is
Speaker 1: going to involve those people, going to result in those
Speaker 1: people saying, well, then why are they doing Maybe we
Speaker 1: shouldn't have a travel band. They'll put pressure on the administration,
Speaker 1: pressure on their elected officials that we shouldn't have a
Speaker 1: travel ban. And they're just saying, he's just saying this
Speaker 1: because he's looking to score points against the administration. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's really gross, that's really grotesque. It's a dumb thing
Speaker 1: to say. I've heard people who are medical experts now
Speaker 1: put forward all this issue specifically. They're like, yes, limiting flights,
Speaker 1: limiting spread absolutely the way to go right now. So
Speaker 1: why say that it's a distraction. Why be so flippant
Speaker 1: about this? You know, you're really people are showing you
Speaker 1: who they are in this whole ordeal, especially people in authority,
Speaker 1: people in the media, people that have influence over what
Speaker 1: you think about, what's about what's happening in this country
Speaker 1: and around the world, and they are many of them
Speaker 1: are using it recklessly. And I also think they'll never
Speaker 1: they'll never be any soul searching over this. But the
Speaker 1: same media that has been in a has been lighting
Speaker 1: their credibility on fire for years to attack the Trump
Speaker 1: administration now turns around and says, why don't you believe
Speaker 1: everything we say about this and that none of it
Speaker 1: is political. Well, because they've cried wolf, because they've they
Speaker 1: have sold their credibility, They've sold their credibility for short
Speaker 1: term audience game, for placating the the Trump Derange left.
Speaker 1: That is what they have been doing. So of course
Speaker 1: we take that into account. But I mean that was very,
Speaker 1: very troubling. I mean, look, here's a perfect example of
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Um, you know, Jim Acosta is
Speaker 1: out there and you know, you know Jim, I I
Speaker 1: don't know Jim Acosta. I gotta tell you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's amazing to me that CNN thinks that this isn't
Speaker 1: just completely that he's not an example of something that
Speaker 1: destroy He just destroys their credibility. I mean, if anyone's
Speaker 1: being honest, Jim Accosta is an activist. He's playing games
Speaker 1: all the time. But here he is. He has access
Speaker 1: to President United States, and he does have unfortunately a
Speaker 1: very large platform from which to inform the American public,
Speaker 1: and he is asked as a White House correspondent, meant
Speaker 1: to convey information to the public. After the President gives
Speaker 1: a speech from the Oval Office, he is asked to
Speaker 1: bring context and analysis to it that's helpful at a
Speaker 1: time of real national concern. And here is what he
Speaker 1: does with that ability. Play clip ten. At one point
Speaker 1: during this address, the President referred to the coronavirus as
Speaker 1: a quote foreign virus. That that I think was interesting
Speaker 1: because as I was talking to sources earlier this evening,
Speaker 1: one of the points that the President wanted to make tonight,
Speaker 1: wanted to get across to Americans is that this virus
Speaker 1: did not start here, but that they're dealing with it now.
Speaker 1: Why the President would go as far as to describe
Speaker 1: it as a foreign virus, that is something we'll also
Speaker 1: be asking questions about. But it should be pointed out
Speaker 1: that Stephen Miller, who is an immigration hardliner who advises
Speaker 1: the president, is one of his top domestic policy advisors
Speaker 1: and speech writers, right, was a driving force in writing
Speaker 1: the speech. And I think it's going to spack. It's
Speaker 1: going to come across to a lot of Americans as
Speaker 1: spacking of xenophobia, to use that kind of term in
Speaker 1: this speech. Chris, Well, look, sometimes we can answer the
Speaker 1: questions and answer is he's doing it to put blame
Speaker 1: somewhere else. What a bunch of morons. And really it
Speaker 1: is a Chinese virus. It did come from China, and
Speaker 1: the Chinese government suppressed information in the beginning that could
Speaker 1: have given the whole world the head start on developing tests, vaccines,
Speaker 1: coordining off people, creating measures to help with public safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all that's true. That's real. And the Chinese government
Speaker 1: is actively lying to its own population trying to blame
Speaker 1: America for this. That's happening right now. There is a
Speaker 1: Chinese government propaganda effort to blame America because this is
Speaker 1: going to have you know, global financial implications could last
Speaker 1: for quite a while, the implications of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, no one really knows how long
Speaker 1: this whole thing is going to continue on in any respect,
Speaker 1: So that could happen. And now we look at this
Speaker 1: and we say to ourselves, Okay, well, should we just
Speaker 1: allow the Chinese government to rewrite history and lie. Should
Speaker 1: they be able to tell the whole world, including their
Speaker 1: own population, that America is responsible for this. This happened
Speaker 1: because someone in China was selling rare animals in what's
Speaker 1: called a wasn't being called a wet market, an open
Speaker 1: air market in Wuhan City in Hubei Province in China.
Speaker 1: That's when or it escaped from the virology institute that
Speaker 1: happens to be ten miles away, which wouldn't be the
Speaker 1: first time that an infectious virus has escaped from that
Speaker 1: institute at all. It's one of those two things. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Chinese. Why can't we speak about this honestly blaming
Speaker 1: the Chinese people for it? But we're trying to describe
Speaker 1: a thing. And why do they waste our time getting
Speaker 1: into this? I mean, it looks CNN. You'd think that
Speaker 1: now they would raise they'd raise the bar now they'd
Speaker 1: be serious. They can't. You shouldn't trust them, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: respect them. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts.
Speaker 1: Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. And so we have targeted
Speaker 1: our relief. We make it. It's aimed at people, not
Speaker 1: at big corporations, not at some kind of general long
Speaker 1: term economic plan that the president might want for other purposes.
Speaker 1: It seems the president seems to be more worried about
Speaker 1: the health of the big banks than the help of Americans.
Speaker 1: We don't believe that works. And so the administration is
Speaker 1: proposing tax cuts and veilouts for the airline industry, the
Speaker 1: oil and gas industry. That's just out of touch. The
Speaker 1: bottom line. We need to put people first. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the response. Now. I've told you a lot about
Speaker 1: where we are, what the threat is that we face,
Speaker 1: how we need to come together or try I've tried
Speaker 1: to minimize the politics, but as I said, there's politics
Speaker 1: is a discussion that involves policy, and policy at the
Speaker 1: national level, at the local level is part of our
Speaker 1: response right now. So I want to bring on our
Speaker 1: friend David Harsani from National Review to speak with us
Speaker 1: a little bit about this. David, thanks for making the time.
Speaker 1: It was a pleasure. I think. All right. First, you know,
Speaker 1: the people are talking about bailouts, stimulus, FED policy, helping
Speaker 1: the airline industry, helping the cruise industry. You know, what
Speaker 1: do you make of Let's start on the on the
Speaker 1: economic side of all this. What do you make of
Speaker 1: the actions administration talked about Trump talking about last night
Speaker 1: and that now Democrats are passing bills to try and
Speaker 1: do something well, the truth as truth is, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean in the sense that I don't know that
Speaker 1: we know exactly what is going to happen over the
Speaker 1: next two weeks, three weeks a month. As far as
Speaker 1: the economy, it seems to me, I'm no expert that
Speaker 1: there will be a recession because you have so much
Speaker 1: you know, inactivity economically because of this that it can't
Speaker 1: it will have an effect, obviously you see it in
Speaker 1: the markets. As a rule, I'm not for bailouts because
Speaker 1: I don't think they work. However, this is not a
Speaker 1: normal situation where you have, you know, an industry that
Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't acted in the best interest of of you know,
Speaker 1: as has been greedy or been giving loans they knew
Speaker 1: they wouldn't get back. I mean, you have here in
Speaker 1: existential threat that's a virus. It's not like something the
Speaker 1: economy is telling you. It's just outside of that. So
Speaker 1: perhaps we need to help the economy. I don't know
Speaker 1: is the real answer yet, because I don't know that
Speaker 1: we know how bad it's going to be. Well, let
Speaker 1: me just quickly add but the Democratic bill is like
Speaker 1: a goody list their usual stuff. So I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: just passing something to pass something's going to be helpful.
Speaker 1: So I hope the President thinks about that. Right, So
Speaker 1: it's not surprising people are trying to leverage this for
Speaker 1: politics right away. It is a little bit disheartening. Well here,
Speaker 1: well here, first, let's take this before. I'm trying so
Speaker 1: hard to avoid the partisan food fight today at least
Speaker 1: because it feels like this should beyond it. Here's what
Speaker 1: Trump said about what he's going to do. Play three
Speaker 1: more to ensure that working Americans impacted by the virus
Speaker 1: can stay home without fear or financial hardship. I will
Speaker 1: soon be taking emergency action, which is unprecedented, to provide
Speaker 1: financial relief. This will be targeted for workers who are ill,
Speaker 1: quarantine who are caring for others due to Corona virus.
Speaker 1: I will be asking Congress to take legislative action to
Speaker 1: extend this relief. Because of the economic policies that we
Speaker 1: have put into place over the last three years, we
Speaker 1: have the greatest economy anywhere in the world by far.
Speaker 1: Our banks and financial institutions are fully capitalized and incredibly strong.
Speaker 1: Our unemployment is at a historic clowe. This vast economic
Speaker 1: prosperity gives us flexibility, reserves and resources to handle any
Speaker 1: thread that comes our way. What do you think about
Speaker 1: all that sounds fine? I don't know that. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not very specific about what that means. But obviously
Speaker 1: people who are quarantined and people are sick, and if
Speaker 1: there's some relief for them, I don't see why we
Speaker 1: shouldn't want that. I would say, he's you know, as
Speaker 1: far as I see, he's right about the economy in
Speaker 1: the sense that once this people feel like this is over,
Speaker 1: there's no real underlying problem with the economy that shouldn't
Speaker 1: allow us to bounce back strongly afterwards. But then again,
Speaker 1: if it hits, you know, really badly and and lots
Speaker 1: of people are dying, God bid, then I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen or how people will feel.
Speaker 1: And the problem for me has been that I read
Speaker 1: one story and I'm like, oh, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: going to be that bad. We're just overreacting as usual.
Speaker 1: Then I read the next story and I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we're all going to die tomorrow. And I
Speaker 1: go back and forth all day and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what to think about it. And that's that's a separate
Speaker 1: problem we have. I think, well, that was what I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you next. Where do you fall
Speaker 1: on the spectrum right now? I've been I've been pretty um,
Speaker 1: I'm bullish, I guess even I've been pretty confident that
Speaker 1: you know, I knew it was going to hit this,
Speaker 1: I knew they'd be cases, and I knew there were
Speaker 1: going to be fatalities from this. But I've been thinking
Speaker 1: that it's going to be okay. I mean this, this
Speaker 1: stuff that's really gotten me. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people rattle isn't even so much the you know, the
Speaker 1: cancelations everything, it's these stories coming out of Italy are
Speaker 1: are pretty terrifying, right, So that's why you know, every
Speaker 1: in terms about flattening the curve and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm typically not hysterical about these things. Most things don't
Speaker 1: turn out as bad as we think so, and I
Speaker 1: suspect that will be the case here as well. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean so. I think there's a wide range
Speaker 1: of positions you can take between hysteria and between dismissing something,
Speaker 1: and I think Trump was a little too dismissive in
Speaker 1: the beginning. There are you know, even if it's not
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. There are a lot of elderly people
Speaker 1: in this country, and a lot of immunocompromise people, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are nervous about this sort
Speaker 1: of thing, and I think we need to take that seriously.
Speaker 1: I think he's been better since then. But also hysteria's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, panicking and almost being gleeful about the economic
Speaker 1: ruin that might fall upon us simply for because it
Speaker 1: might help you with your politics. It's just really gross.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like there aren't a lot of
Speaker 1: grown ups out there when it comes to this sort
Speaker 1: of stuff, and that I think that's a separate problem
Speaker 1: that we have to face at some point, that we
Speaker 1: don't know who to trust because everyone has some sort
Speaker 1: of political angle. And I think that's the problem. I mean,
Speaker 1: I played before the audio from the former Ebolazar. He's
Speaker 1: just a lawyer and a chief of staff. I work
Speaker 1: for a bunch of Democrat administrations, ron Klain, and he
Speaker 1: was saying that the travel ban is just a distraction tactic.
Speaker 1: He went on Rachel Mattau showing fund millions of people.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that's reckless. I actually think
Speaker 1: that crosses a line from like, I don't like what
Speaker 1: he's saying to this. This is this is a guy
Speaker 1: who's who's telling people things, who's advocating against a position
Speaker 1: that could save lives, and is therefore actually imperiling lives
Speaker 1: and doing so. He must know. They're like, we don't
Speaker 1: want to have a whole bunch of flights coming in
Speaker 1: from Milan, Italy, right, Like he's not a total moron. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that's why, you know, folks
Speaker 1: like him, It's why we can't trust what we're being told.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean the idea. Listen, here's the thing. Literally,
Speaker 1: nothing the president was going to do was going to
Speaker 1: be okay for a bunch of people out there. They
Speaker 1: were going to either was going to be enough, it
Speaker 1: was going to be too much, it was going to
Speaker 1: be too stupid. There is nothing he can do that
Speaker 1: it's going to make them feel where, you know, satisfy them.
Speaker 1: So I think we need to ignore those kinds of people.
Speaker 1: I do get worried when I hear you know, a
Speaker 1: doctor or you know, I forgot his name now, but
Speaker 1: they leaked, you know, leaked his testimony or whatever. He
Speaker 1: says one hundred and fifty million people might get coronavirus. Okay,
Speaker 1: now show me your charts and tell me how you
Speaker 1: came to that, because that seems really, really bad. And
Speaker 1: I think that that's the sort of panic I really hate,
Speaker 1: because you know, you're just throwing a remark out there
Speaker 1: with any without any context. It's very difficult to find it.
Speaker 1: Just what are you thinking now in terms of what
Speaker 1: you want to do next and what you're you know, well,
Speaker 1: what is your respellence right now? Mary? Are you? Are
Speaker 1: you social distancing? And then some I mean, where where
Speaker 1: are you putting your own your own sense of how
Speaker 1: you're going to comport yourself here? Going for I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that's the right word, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: how you're going to conduct yourself? There you go? I know,
Speaker 1: I buck I have social distance. For a long time,
Speaker 1: I were in my own office, and I am not
Speaker 1: a social butterfully, I'm not out there most of the time.
Speaker 1: But obviously I live in the real world and I
Speaker 1: have kids, and I worry about that, especially one of
Speaker 1: them is immunocompromised, and I feel like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I keep her home right now, even though I know, listen,
Speaker 1: when you're a parent, You're not going to be rational
Speaker 1: about that stuff. I realize that I'm in the real world.
Speaker 1: I have to be rational. But when you have your
Speaker 1: own kids, you're like, whoa, you know, so why not
Speaker 1: just keep them home and be safe and you know,
Speaker 1: wash your hands and do all the right things. That's
Speaker 1: what I try to do. I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: out of our control to some extent. You know, when
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks gets it, that really hits you know, You're like,
Speaker 1: even famous people who are well taken care of can
Speaker 1: get sick. So but in the end, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be as bad as Italy.
Speaker 1: I just feel like in some sense, we're just better
Speaker 1: prepared and we can move fast room because of our economy,
Speaker 1: we can we can deal with these things. So, you know,
Speaker 1: and when I you know, I leave this house actually
Speaker 1: and go out into the real world. I'm actually hardened
Speaker 1: to see that normal people don't act with the kind
Speaker 1: of hysteria that we see on Twitter, etc. You know,
Speaker 1: are just going about their business, I think as best
Speaker 1: as they can. Twitter has been, you know, especially for
Speaker 1: in blue check journalist world. I feel like it's been
Speaker 1: worse than it has ever been in the last in
Speaker 1: the last week or so, I think this is like
Speaker 1: the ugliest. I mean I told you before, you know,
Speaker 1: I went on Bill Mars Show, and my message was,
Speaker 1: we all want this to work, we all want Trump
Speaker 1: to do his best. This is really beyond politics. And
Speaker 1: I mean I actually had people writing me messages like
Speaker 1: that they hope that I, you know, I and everyone
Speaker 1: I know gets coronavirus and dies. That you mentioned that
Speaker 1: the gleefulness. There's there's a deep psychological sickness in American
Speaker 1: politics that this actual sickness, I think is is showing
Speaker 1: us in ways. It reminds me a little bit of
Speaker 1: after After right after nine to eleven. There were people,
Speaker 1: and I've told stories about this, there were people who
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, America got what I mean Americans who
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, we got we deserved. Yeah. No, I
Speaker 1: think this is the worst. It's successful. It's been completely unhelpful.
Speaker 1: It's you know, would rather than help to guide us.
Speaker 1: Because Twitter can be amazing, and that's just Twitter, social
Speaker 1: media where you connect people who have in ways instantaneously
Speaker 1: where they can help each other figure out what's going
Speaker 1: on in the big picture. Right, That's not what happened.
Speaker 1: You just have rumors, you have idiocy, you have you know,
Speaker 1: people who no matter what you know, what Trump says,
Speaker 1: they're going to be angry, and other people frankly old
Speaker 1: defense Trump no matter what he's doing as well. So
Speaker 1: everything becomes politics and we can't it's very difficult, difficult
Speaker 1: to get like a good read on what you know
Speaker 1: the threat, and maybe people don't know you know what
Speaker 1: the threat is. I don't know, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've basically tried to turn it off for the most
Speaker 1: part because it's it's not been helpful, and that's that's
Speaker 1: a shame, because it is an amazing technology when you
Speaker 1: really think about it, it should be much much, much
Speaker 1: more helpful. Do you think that the administration has reached
Speaker 1: a point where they they are locked in in terms
Speaker 1: of how serious they should be and how focused they
Speaker 1: are on this. They seem to be headed in that direction.
Speaker 1: Initially I didn't think so, And obviously I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've read these stories, but you know, because you
Speaker 1: have such a big centralized bureaucracy with the CDC. Literally
Speaker 1: the doctor in Seattle broke the law to try to
Speaker 1: help and track this and do a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: So I think that we after this, we need to
Speaker 1: rethink how we deal maybe in more decentralized Well, well,
Speaker 1: I you know, I have mentioned that story, and I've
Speaker 1: been saying to people, you know, this is where you know,
Speaker 1: in the early days, it was oh, you know, the CDC,
Speaker 1: the CDC, the CDC funding and everything else. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I told people, you know, I worked for the CIA,
Speaker 1: which you know has a lot a lot of funding
Speaker 1: and a lot of people working for it and thinks
Speaker 1: it's really pretty high speed and cool, and if people
Speaker 1: knew the mistakes that go on there, I can't even imagine. Like,
Speaker 1: look that The fact of the matter is that if
Speaker 1: you're going to be a researcher in the medical profession,
Speaker 1: CDC I'm sure is a good place to go before
Speaker 1: you go into other places. But I think Big Pharma
Speaker 1: is more likely to actually come up with something that's
Speaker 1: really going to help this in the next six to
Speaker 1: twelve months. Dennis CDC will oh my god. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't foresee this stuff sometime, so I
Speaker 1: don't know how quickly they can move either, but but
Speaker 1: obviously they move far quicker than government, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I already saw, you know, the rumors of ad vaccines
Speaker 1: being created in Israel and other places with these pharmaceutical companies.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, the CDC is a disaster. It
Speaker 1: started out as a agency to help fight malaria, right,
Speaker 1: and now you know it's it's a massive budget, spends
Speaker 1: most of its time telling us what, you know, what
Speaker 1: fruits we should be eating, and you know how much
Speaker 1: we should be walking and stuff that's none of its
Speaker 1: business as a massive, massive budget and hasn't really been
Speaker 1: cut at all. That's that's just the myth anyway. But
Speaker 1: I've been writing about the CDC for a long time
Speaker 1: and there they're just a nanti state organization. They have
Speaker 1: far more important things to be worried about. But still
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want them in control of it. I think
Speaker 1: I trust farmer companies far more than I do. You know,
Speaker 1: any kind of centralized group. And also, I mean think
Speaker 1: about this. You have China or Italy, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they have a similar sized, similar kind of centralized
Speaker 1: socialized medicine, but they are centralized, right, and their reactions
Speaker 1: have not been good at all. So I don't know
Speaker 1: that you know that that and we'll see these other
Speaker 1: countries how they're going to deal with it now. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any sort of there's not
Speaker 1: one answer to this kind of thing, and it's it's
Speaker 1: difficult no matter how prepared you are. People don't have
Speaker 1: to realize that you don't have some solution to everything immediately.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, good luck with the social distancing, keep
Speaker 1: yours yours close in hand and safe. And David, we
Speaker 1: always appreciate you making the time a chat with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you anytime to do too. You're in the Freedom Hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know, they
Speaker 1: keep telling us that we need to be adults and
Speaker 1: that Trump needs to be an adult, and that you
Speaker 1: know that this is all about rising above partisan rancor
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I mean, here's a tweet from
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton from this morning. I know this is all
Speaker 1: hard for you real, Donald Trump, So let me spell
Speaker 1: it out. Free testing, fee waivers, emergency say leave, quarantines, cancelations,
Speaker 1: giving a dam She really the president doesn't give a damn.
Speaker 1: The president might end up getting coronavirus. I assure you
Speaker 1: the president gives a dam But why do that? Can't
Speaker 1: can't put that on hold for just you know, a
Speaker 1: few a few weeks here, even a few days. They're
Speaker 1: all talking about how we have to come together and
Speaker 1: face this and do what is necessary. And then they
Speaker 1: turn around immediately and they want a lecture all of us.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's another example. There's all this fighting over
Speaker 1: whether we should call it Wuhan virus, whether that's racist
Speaker 1: or not, or Chinese coronavirus. Here's how the media was
Speaker 1: referring to it as of you know, about a week
Speaker 1: and a half ago. Play clip one. The Wuhan coronavirus
Speaker 1: has now surpassed the two thousand and three Stars outbreak.
Speaker 1: The first two s case of Chinese coronavirus was confirmed
Speaker 1: at Her Hospital. Of Her hospitals inside that building is
Speaker 1: the world's first labrum copy of the Uhan coronavirus outside
Speaker 1: mainland China. The Chinese coronavirus death toll has jumped to
Speaker 1: at least twenty six people. The death toll from the
Speaker 1: Wuhan coronavirus spike today. The Chinese virus the coronavirus that
Speaker 1: is worrying the whole world. This comes as the Chinese
Speaker 1: coronavirus death toll has jumped to at least twenty six
Speaker 1: people and sickened at least eight hundred and thirty five people.
Speaker 1: They did they just discover xenophobia and racism in the
Speaker 1: last week. Oh, those are all different shows on major
Speaker 1: cable news networks, all calling it either Chinese or Wuhan
Speaker 1: coronavirus or whatever. So was that racist or I just
Speaker 1: I just want to know what the rules are here.
Speaker 1: I know there are more important there are more important things.
Speaker 1: Although you could you could play that game with everything, right,
Speaker 1: So now, are we allowed to talk about the toilet
Speaker 1: paper shortage? We're just Oh, there's more important things. Are
Speaker 1: we allowed to talk about you know, what it's like
Speaker 1: to live in the world that's in the midst of this?
Speaker 1: Or do we have to just all sit around and
Speaker 1: look at the statistics and be terrified all the time.
Speaker 1: And we know life has to go on. We have
Speaker 1: to move on together. That's why I said we're gonna
Speaker 1: do this show day and day in and day out.
Speaker 1: We're where we have things to talk about. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: we haven't done a greater range of topics today. I'd
Speaker 1: meant to get to some other things, but look, right now,
Speaker 1: truth is, this is the single biggest thing by far.
Speaker 1: Nothing else even comes close to this story in the
Speaker 1: entire world, never mind us here in America. So that's
Speaker 1: why we've been spending the time in it that we have.
Speaker 1: You know, what do I see? I want to tell
Speaker 1: you a little bit of what I what I see
Speaker 1: coming here, just so we can get on the same
Speaker 1: page with that. I'll have some other thoughts for you
Speaker 1: on you know, there was a Supreme Court victory, well
Speaker 1: short term victory leased for the Trump administration on something
Speaker 1: that does still matter. And then producer Mark and I
Speaker 1: will kind of, you know, take a breather by having
Speaker 1: you guys tell us what you think in roll call.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The bus Esson Show podcasts. Remember
Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Perhaps here's a moment where
Speaker 1: we can talk about some other stories, some of the
Speaker 1: things that are happening in the country right now. There
Speaker 1: was a a stay granted yesterday on a federal court
Speaker 1: ruling has to do with the southern border. Now, look,
Speaker 1: everything now also has a bit of a of a
Speaker 1: whun virus tie in because everything is affected by this,
Speaker 1: and so we're talking about borders. We need secure borders.
Speaker 1: I think there's a greater understanding now of that than
Speaker 1: there has been in a long time, or at least
Speaker 1: there should be a greater understanding of that. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that people have. No one changes their mind these
Speaker 1: days about anything right now. You can never change your
Speaker 1: mind when new facts come in. That would be crazy.
Speaker 1: But there was a federal judge this keeps happening, federal
Speaker 1: judge who told the Trump administration, no, you can't, you
Speaker 1: can't do that thing that you want to do. We're
Speaker 1: going I as a federal judge, I'm going to say
Speaker 1: that that's not constitutional, that's that's illegal for some reason.
Speaker 1: Usually the fallback is the Administrative Procedure Act, you know,
Speaker 1: that had just come up with some twisted you know,
Speaker 1: just try and way too hard legal ease to try
Speaker 1: and explore lane why we are where we are on
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Right, So this is where you get. Finally,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court they will look at this and say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta let They've they've lifted the stay that stopped
Speaker 1: the Trump administration from implementing the remain in Mexico program.
Speaker 1: The Remaining Mexico programs pretty straightforward. It was set up
Speaker 1: so that if you come to the US Mexico border
Speaker 1: and you claim asylum, you no longer get to just
Speaker 1: get released in the interior of the United States, because
Speaker 1: this was just a huge backdoor process to come into
Speaker 1: the country and break the law and doing so showing
Speaker 1: up because the ports of entry, they tried to limit
Speaker 1: how many people were coming through through these through the
Speaker 1: asylum process the ports of entry. So what they would
Speaker 1: do is they would just come across the border illegally,
Speaker 1: get arrested and then never show up for their court date,
Speaker 1: or if they do show up and they don't get asylum,
Speaker 1: they don't show up for their deportation hearing. They are
Speaker 1: all these levels that it moves through in which and
Speaker 1: by the way, people about this, oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 1: there are so many Democrats. Oh, they all show up
Speaker 1: at their meetings, They'll all show up at the court hearings.
Speaker 1: I promise. No, they didn't. Of course they didn't. They
Speaker 1: were never going to We all knew that. But people
Speaker 1: lie while it was useful to them about this because
Speaker 1: there's a big ideological investment that the left has in
Speaker 1: being quasi open borders, right, that's the that's the real
Speaker 1: issue here. They don't want it doesn't matter what the
Speaker 1: facts are, it doesn't matter what the numbers are. They
Speaker 1: are just going to always favor a policy that keeps
Speaker 1: us all with this open borders, de facto open border
Speaker 1: status where if you show up you get to just say, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to claim a sound then it release the
Speaker 1: United States. So the Supreme Court said, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they have to be able to continue the remain in
Speaker 1: Mexico program because what that well, what it does, I
Speaker 1: should they the administration must be allowed to do this
Speaker 1: because what it does is it takes people and says
Speaker 1: you have to wait in Mexico while your claim is adjudicated,
Speaker 1: so you don't get to have this back to our
Speaker 1: entrance in the United States. It's all it says, that's
Speaker 1: all the policy is. And I think they're eighty thousand
Speaker 1: people already who and guess what, Oh, what a surprise,
Speaker 1: all these people that were showing up saying, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I want asylum, not if they have to actually wait
Speaker 1: and show up in court and stay on the Mexico
Speaker 1: side of the border. Because it was all a scam,
Speaker 1: and we knew it was a scam and I told
Speaker 1: you it was and we were right. Okay, So the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court except for Soda Mayor, who I think is
Speaker 1: clearly the least capable lawyer sitting on the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: just based on her decisions, based on the way that
Speaker 1: she you know, the way that she asked questions, based
Speaker 1: on her judgment, and then as a judge, she's a
Speaker 1: deeply flawed and really subpar legal mind. And she you
Speaker 1: know what she says, no, you know, oh, of course,
Speaker 1: because it's not a policy thing for her right she
Speaker 1: sees the Trump administration, it says, you can't do this.
Speaker 1: You have no control over borders, even though you're the
Speaker 1: executive branch. You that command in chief not allowed. The
Speaker 1: other the other judges said no, no, no, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: you got to let the administration do this. This can't
Speaker 1: be the hashtag judiciary getting its way, because that's what
Speaker 1: they've been doing all along. They're trying to slow down
Speaker 1: the president, trying to prevent him from being able to
Speaker 1: do his job use the powers that he has. And
Speaker 1: then then you also get this update from Immigrations and
Speaker 1: Customs Enforcement. They say that a current deportation rates, it
Speaker 1: would take one hundred and forty years to remove all
Speaker 1: the illegal immigrants who came in during the border surge
Speaker 1: of the last two years. A hundred and forty years, folks.
Speaker 1: That's just for the people that came in the last
Speaker 1: two years. Never mind, you know, the process of the
Speaker 1: speed with which we are able to generally deport people
Speaker 1: who are in the country illegally and who commit additional crimes,
Speaker 1: or who for whatever reason, are higher up on the
Speaker 1: enforcement on the enforcement list. So they added nine hundred
Speaker 1: thousand cases to ICE's non detained docket. ICE is non
Speaker 1: detained docket, according to the Acting Director of Immigration's Customer
Speaker 1: Enforcement now has three point three million people in it.
Speaker 1: The number of illegal immigrants in the country is not
Speaker 1: eleven million, folks, it's fifteen to twenty at least at least.
Speaker 1: This is also why the government, which we see has
Speaker 1: plenty of problems in a lot of ways. The government
Speaker 1: never really wants to do a full and accurate account
Speaker 1: of this because we'd find out that the government numbers
Speaker 1: have been wrong and that we've been lied to on
Speaker 1: this for a very very long time. And now I
Speaker 1: have to say, we can't really talk about the coronavirus situation,
Speaker 1: and we can't really talk about the border, and given
Speaker 1: the coronavirus situation, not discuss how isn't it really important
Speaker 1: now that we have control of our ports of entry
Speaker 1: and that we know who's coming into the country and
Speaker 1: who's not. If you were somebody and look at some
Speaker 1: point we do. This is where we're also saying that
Speaker 1: the United States has finite resources. We do not have
Speaker 1: the resources to pay for everyone stuff from all over
Speaker 1: the world. We do not have the resources to be
Speaker 1: the world's soup kitchen and healthcare ward. We don't have that.
Speaker 1: We can't do it right. We know this. We're already
Speaker 1: seeing other countries that their health systems have been overwhelmed
Speaker 1: in a crisis. Now, if you were in the midst
Speaker 1: of what could be an outbreak, I don't know, in
Speaker 1: a country south of our border, pick any country, and
Speaker 1: you knew that America's border was porous, and that if
Speaker 1: you got here you'd be able to count on world
Speaker 1: class medical care given to you free of charge. You
Speaker 1: know that might be a big incentive. But keep in
Speaker 1: mind that we all ready with the people that are
Speaker 1: here in this country are very worried about having the
Speaker 1: surge capacity and hospitals to deal with the increase in
Speaker 1: the You know, if we have a sudden massive increase
Speaker 1: in the number of infected people in this country, having
Speaker 1: that searge capacity something that we may not have, we
Speaker 1: don't really have right now, we'd have to work at it.
Speaker 1: In a very interestant that I heard in the conversation
Speaker 1: over masks. You know, they have the N ninety five
Speaker 1: masks with the respirators that they can use for medical purposes,
Speaker 1: but also the ones that are that are industrial grain
Speaker 1: I think, or for commercial activity. You know, people use
Speaker 1: for industrial purposes where you have sometimes very noxious chemicals
Speaker 1: and things that can have gases that are you know,
Speaker 1: a big concern for health reasons. They can change the
Speaker 1: they can change the designation, just change the regulation around this,
Speaker 1: and then you'd have millions more masks immediately that would
Speaker 1: be able to be used. This is where government, you see,
Speaker 1: government actually gets in the way sometimes. Apparently the masks
Speaker 1: for the industrial use are just as effective as that now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that that's what I saw today.
Speaker 1: I think it was Kevin McCarthy of the Congress saying that,
Speaker 1: so there are things that need to be done here,
Speaker 1: but we also need a secure border and we also
Speaker 1: need travel bands. Isn't it so interesting that the Trump
Speaker 1: administration came in and established the right and it went
Speaker 1: all the way to the Supreme Court, established the right
Speaker 1: to be able to for a national security emergency banned
Speaker 1: different countries from entering the United States. That the left
Speaker 1: fought this tooth and nail. There were protests, people were
Speaker 1: showing up, protesting in airports that we were told this
Speaker 1: was an evil policy, a racist policy. And now if
Speaker 1: you're looking at what we have done right so far
Speaker 1: in this country to deal with the outbreak of Wahana virus,
Speaker 1: it has been the single most important decision probably that
Speaker 1: Trump has made of all decisions so far using that
Speaker 1: authority that if the left had had its way, the
Speaker 1: president would not have even had And just the entire
Speaker 1: focus on our border and having a more secure border
Speaker 1: is clearly something that you know, the left doesn't want.
Speaker 1: And now we see this and understand that it is
Speaker 1: important for not just immigration is not just an issue
Speaker 1: but economics, it's not just a cultural and political issue.
Speaker 1: Immigration is also in that it is a true national
Speaker 1: security issue because and this is really with the conversation
Speaker 1: with David before started to get into that this is
Speaker 1: not an economic issue. We're not in a financial crisis.
Speaker 1: We are in a disease pandemic right. We are really
Speaker 1: under attack. We are facing an invasion by a pathogen.
Speaker 1: And this is where federal government response has to be
Speaker 1: robust and where you see the authority that we give
Speaker 1: to the government to protect us needs to be used properly.
Speaker 1: But part of that is establishing control over our borders,
Speaker 1: who comes and who goes. There are real national security
Speaker 1: implications that immigration touches on. That's not just a talking
Speaker 1: point that Republicans throw out there. And I do think
Speaker 1: it's noteworthy that the travel band authority of the President
Speaker 1: had to go all over the Supreme Court to assert
Speaker 1: that travel band authority was something that was challenged very
Speaker 1: much by the left and that they were against him
Speaker 1: on this. And it may be the one thing if
Speaker 1: we get out of this without having a catastrophic surge
Speaker 1: in cases, people are going to look back at the
Speaker 1: decision to limit those flights and say, Wow, that might
Speaker 1: have saved a lot of lives. You're in the freedom hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Just over a
Speaker 1: week ago, many of the punditsks declared that this candidacy
Speaker 1: was dead. Now we're very much alive. If we're various
Speaker 1: high together, we're regenerating a democratic based It's more than
Speaker 1: a comeback to my view our campaign. So come back
Speaker 1: to the soul of the station. There's a place in
Speaker 1: our campaign for each of you. And I want to
Speaker 1: thank Bernie Sanders and a supporters for their tireless energy
Speaker 1: and their passion. We share a common goal and together
Speaker 1: we'll defeat Donald Trump. We'll defeat them together, we'll see. Well.
Speaker 1: I was talking before about how this is Trump in
Speaker 1: wartime presidency moote, and that is definitely what's going on.
Speaker 1: But you also have to understand that this is effectively
Speaker 1: the election. I believe the election, for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 1: will be determined. What will be decided in the minds
Speaker 1: of the American people in the next sixty days. This
Speaker 1: is it now. What's much If you told me right
Speaker 1: now that we could have zero casualties from this and
Speaker 1: there would be a Biden presidency, guess what I'd say.
Speaker 1: We got a President Biden coming in the single most
Speaker 1: important thing here, no question is that this is dealt
Speaker 1: with properly by the government. Now. Of course, if Trump
Speaker 1: administration were now, we already have casualties. I know that,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying theoretically, the most important thing. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to focus on what matters. The most important thing
Speaker 1: is that we have a strong government and collective and
Speaker 1: individual response to this. This is really on everybody, you know.
Speaker 1: I really hope that people that have a bad cough
Speaker 1: and they have the symptoms don't get on the subway, like,
Speaker 1: don't do these This is all very important. Don't do
Speaker 1: the things you're told not to do, you know, protect
Speaker 1: the people around you, stay home. I think it's a
Speaker 1: fourteen day quarantine is what they're recommending for people. So,
Speaker 1: you know, there are very real reasons here for optimism,
Speaker 1: but there's also reasons to be on high alert about
Speaker 1: what the future is going to hold here. But the
Speaker 1: political implications of this are quite clear, meaning that we're
Speaker 1: going to be able to assess how this was done,
Speaker 1: how well this was done. And you know, I just
Speaker 1: wish that they Democrats and the left that are using
Speaker 1: this as a weapon to attack Trump all the time,
Speaker 1: it would trust in the American people's judgment. If this
Speaker 1: thing is a catastrophe and the Trump administration is held
Speaker 1: to account for it. They'll be held to account in
Speaker 1: the fall as well. I mean, this is something that
Speaker 1: no one's going to forget. And I think that this
Speaker 1: is where we see how capable Trump really is. He's
Speaker 1: being tested every now he says, Oh, administrations are tested
Speaker 1: by different things. You know, administrations are tested. This is
Speaker 1: Trump's test right now. I think he is up to it.
Speaker 1: The other side of this is that they keep telling
Speaker 1: us that Biden is up to it, and to that
Speaker 1: I just I have I have questions. I have questions.
Speaker 1: Here is Biden's spokesperson, Kate Bettingfield on why is it?
Speaker 1: Why is it that Joe Biden drifts off and sounds
Speaker 1: like he's on a Seriously, it sounds like he's in
Speaker 1: some other universe sometimes. Here's what she said, play fourteen.
Speaker 1: Is Joe Biden fit to be commander in chief? How
Speaker 1: do you answer that? You know, I have to say,
Speaker 1: this is a disgusting smear tactic, and this kind of
Speaker 1: thing is exactly why people want Joe Biden to be president.
Speaker 1: This kind of false, you know, misleading basically conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: that you know, let's talk about hang on, how is
Speaker 1: it a smear tactic to ask you about a video
Speaker 1: where the vice president, in his own words, struggles to
Speaker 1: complete a sentence? How is that a smear tactic? And respectfully,
Speaker 1: how many times have you struggled to complete a sentence?
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous? Of course, let's roll, let's roll the tape. Well,
Speaker 1: going after the host? Huh No, I've I've watched a
Speaker 1: lot of it at Henry actually, and I've never looked
Speaker 1: at at Henry in a moment where he knows he's
Speaker 1: being televised, where he knows. I've looked at many, many,
Speaker 1: many hosts on TV, and never have I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: is that person? Does that person have failing mental faculties?
Speaker 1: And I do think that you can say with Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: sometimes that's a real that is an earnest conclusion you
Speaker 1: could come to, and the health of the commander in
Speaker 1: chief is a real consideration. We know they've been talking
Speaker 1: about this with Trump all along. They've they've been going
Speaker 1: after Trump members of the press for being overweight. They
Speaker 1: say that's a problem, you know, Oh, of course, mostly
Speaker 1: so they can just mock him because they absolutely despise him.
Speaker 1: But they say that his weight itself is a problem
Speaker 1: because it indicates that he could have other sudden health problems.
Speaker 1: He could have a heart attack, or could have any
Speaker 1: number of these different things that happen. Look, I don't
Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden is more competent than Donald Trump
Speaker 1: in a crisis. And that's really what this is going
Speaker 1: to come down to. That's going to be a key
Speaker 1: question that's asked here. I don't think there's any reason
Speaker 1: to believe that's the case. But I also want more
Speaker 1: than anything this to pass and for us to get
Speaker 1: the other side of this, and I do think, by
Speaker 1: the way, well we're going to get there. I know today, Look,
Speaker 1: today has been a little bit of a gloomy day
Speaker 1: an American for the world, folks, And we're in a
Speaker 1: rough spot right now. There's no question about it. The
Speaker 1: economy is absolutely in free fall, not because we have
Speaker 1: a bad economy, but because people are staying home because
Speaker 1: we're under assault by this disease. But you know, and
Speaker 1: I also think back to at the end of last year,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this, I sat down with my
Speaker 1: with my mom, and I remember it for the first
Speaker 1: time a really long time, I just was able to say,
Speaker 1: you know, things are really good. You know, things are
Speaker 1: really good in my life. I was happy and things
Speaker 1: were going well, and you know, the show is doing
Speaker 1: really well, and I get the hangout producer Mark every day.
Speaker 1: You know, things were just good in life. And I
Speaker 1: remember I said it, not because I thought it was
Speaker 1: going to continue, it because I knew that I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I knew that there would be challenges. I knew there
Speaker 1: were the things in the horizon, and not just for me.
Speaker 1: But what was the next big challenge? You know, We've
Speaker 1: had nine to eleven, We've had the financial crisis. We
Speaker 1: were due for something, and I never liked to think
Speaker 1: that way, but I knew it was. It was there,
Speaker 1: and that's we are right now. We are in the
Speaker 1: midst of our once in a decade major challenge as
Speaker 1: a country, as a nation, as a people, and I
Speaker 1: am still very confident in our ability. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I had more money to invest in the stock market,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've already invested a lot, and I've invested
Speaker 1: and I've lost a lot of money in the last month,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep it, you know, But now I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say I have lost money. I've invested. I believe
Speaker 1: it those investments will be made whole in time as
Speaker 1: the economy recovers. But you know what, even if it doesn't,
Speaker 1: I vote in favor of America. I vote to support America.
Speaker 1: I want to keep businesses stocks up. I want to
Speaker 1: do what I can, you know, what little I can
Speaker 1: to show that I have faith in this place, because
Speaker 1: I do. We have been through worse, we have been
Speaker 1: through more. We're going to get through this one too.
Speaker 1: So today is a day we can all, you know,
Speaker 1: let it out a little bit, you know, shake it
Speaker 1: off a little bit. For sure, there's there's a understandable
Speaker 1: unease that I'm sure many of you feel. I know
Speaker 1: that I felt in the last twenty four hours more
Speaker 1: than I have so far. But I also think we'll
Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow. I'll be a new day and we'll
Speaker 1: feel like, all right, it's not over, but we're in
Speaker 1: the fight and we're gonna win the fight. Thanks for
Speaker 1: listening to The bus Esson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe
Speaker 1: on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping
Speaker 1: it real, It's time for roll call, all right, Everybody
Speaker 1: like I was saying, we're gonna get through. I want
Speaker 1: to hear from all of you, and I did. This
Speaker 1: is not just me talking, this is true. I talked
Speaker 1: to Prison Market this yesterday. We're trying to find out
Speaker 1: although right now we got bigger concerns obviously, but we
Speaker 1: are trying to get to a place where we can
Speaker 1: take your phone calls as voicemails so that we can
Speaker 1: play them on the air and you can hear from
Speaker 1: all of you. Want to hear some of your voices.
Speaker 1: So we're working on that. You know, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be right away, because like I said, we've got
Speaker 1: some contingency planning going on here to keep their Freedom
Speaker 1: Hunt firing no matter what. Right, but we'll get this.
Speaker 1: We'll get this going to So we have to figure
Speaker 1: out how to stay on the air in case we
Speaker 1: have to stay home. So yeah, I mean, the big
Speaker 1: concern for us is if they shut down the subway
Speaker 1: here in New York because they just realized that it's
Speaker 1: the single worst transmission node in the whole city, which
Speaker 1: I mean probably is. I spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: on that subway that we can't get to work, and
Speaker 1: so that's why we have to set up the contingency plans.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we thought about this, we are going to
Speaker 1: make moves on it, and we got we got to
Speaker 1: kind of see what's going on from there. That's my
Speaker 1: way of saying, you know, team cheer me up, send
Speaker 1: me let's get a lot of messages. I want to
Speaker 1: hear from a lot of you this the next few weeks. Okay,
Speaker 1: especially a lot of first timers were having written in before.
Speaker 1: It's very easy. You're just on Facebook, I'm sure on
Speaker 1: Facebook sometimes Facebook dot Com, slashbuck Sexton, also on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. You can send you can send me
Speaker 1: messages on Instagram if you want Buck Sexton on Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's an easy way to do it. And if you
Speaker 1: want to email, if you'd like to kick it a
Speaker 1: little more old school, it's very easy. Team buck at iHeartMedia,
Speaker 1: the company will work for it's a huge company. I
Speaker 1: heard Media dot com. What's up. I'd like to stress
Speaker 1: shorten your messages people. I get some really long messages
Speaker 1: and I can't put them on the air because I
Speaker 1: can't can't have Buck reading for five minutes per message. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's Jay. Look. Also, I'll say this if
Speaker 1: we read everything that comes in, if you want it
Speaker 1: to have if you want us to be able to
Speaker 1: put it on air, it's got to be like three
Speaker 1: hundred words, four hundred words or less. I mean two
Speaker 1: paragraphs max. Two paragraphs is really One paragraph is a
Speaker 1: sweet spot. Two paragraphs is fine. Beyond that, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to read it on the air because
Speaker 1: it's too long. We've got too many messages to get too.
Speaker 1: So I would say, you know, the the optimal message is,
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred words, maybe fifty fifty or one
Speaker 1: line that's like bucket, Mark, you are awesome. You keep
Speaker 1: me safe in the warm at night. I think of
Speaker 1: it like if you're calling into the show when we
Speaker 1: took calls. Yeah, a sentence or two that's really good,
Speaker 1: your best stuff. Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair,
Speaker 1: all right, producer. Otherwise you're gonna be in the penalty
Speaker 1: box of the producer Mark. Uh. Let's see chance, producer, Mark.
Speaker 1: Does a supposed woman who had buck watched Dirty Dancing
Speaker 1: exist or does she exist in the same way Adam
Speaker 1: Shift's whistleblower In name only and just for the purpose
Speaker 1: of the story, I will say you know who met
Speaker 1: her actually was producer Jeff on the w R show.
Speaker 1: Huh she came back. She wanted to meet the famous
Speaker 1: producer Mark, but um, producer Mark was not here because
Speaker 1: he has a wife and a life yes um, and
Speaker 1: finishes the show earlier. So yeah, so yeah she so
Speaker 1: producer Jeff. Who Producer Jeff knows that she exists. Producer
Speaker 1: Jeff knows that there is a lady that exists to
Speaker 1: who the who the buck is dating? Um, so that's
Speaker 1: a thing. So yeah, well the right somebody has seen her.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, no, I mean I'm glad that otherwise I'd
Speaker 1: just be sitting here, like I promise she exists. She's
Speaker 1: totally real. Have a doll in your apartment that you
Speaker 1: make cookies with a you know, I'm gonna tell you this, man.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I almost like a week
Speaker 1: or two ago. I've ramped up as much as I
Speaker 1: can my reading lately. Not that I read all day
Speaker 1: for work to do the show, but my not work reading,
Speaker 1: you know, my reading just books that I want to
Speaker 1: read for fun. And I was thinking, as I could
Speaker 1: do that, or I could get a PlayStation four. I
Speaker 1: was so close, I mean to get Foot Sheep right
Speaker 1: now too. Yeah five's coming out sooner. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: so close to getting a PS four, which I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, given the whole social distancing, self quarantining situation
Speaker 1: that's playing out all over the world, placed I don't know,
Speaker 1: Emazon still delivers, right, I might have to get a
Speaker 1: PlayStation if I can't go out of my apartment for
Speaker 1: a while. That's really gonna be helpful. Best thing is
Speaker 1: nowadays you don't even need to leave the house to
Speaker 1: get new games. You can just download them, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even bother going to the store anymore. Looks
Speaker 1: as long as as long long as the food is
Speaker 1: still on the shelves, and as long as we've got
Speaker 1: electricity and internet, you know, we can get through some
Speaker 1: pretty widespread social distancing and self containment. For it could
Speaker 1: be a storm or something. You could have no power, no,
Speaker 1: no anything. So it's actually better. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: that's yeah, being without power. I will say that that day,
Speaker 1: I know they got the power and really quickly, but
Speaker 1: that day after Hurricane Sandy, when I was walking around
Speaker 1: and all these people didn't have power, it was it's
Speaker 1: a real shock. It's or not a shock as the case, maybe,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, it's it's it's really
Speaker 1: something that surprises you when you go to plug in
Speaker 1: your phone into the wall socket and you're really, oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, I'm in the dark, and this is the
Speaker 1: way it's going to be. So and you were lucky
Speaker 1: that it was only a little bit of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was that was short. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: so Producer Mark is gonna have to take my word
Speaker 1: for it for now. But we will bring the mystery.
Speaker 1: We'll bring the mystery lady by at some point during
Speaker 1: the day. The promise she has a job, so she's
Speaker 1: here during the day. She wouldn't get an unemployed girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Not yet, No, nope, all right, so we'll see, well,
Speaker 1: and we may have more we may have more information.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dole out that information slowly. We're gonna hold
Speaker 1: back in any details about about Buck's love life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't even know anything yet until until like the
Speaker 1: country is out of this. Yeah, that'll be like when
Speaker 1: it's springtime and we're all feeling better and we're past
Speaker 1: this scariness of this disease. That's when you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when I think I'll tell you guys the stories
Speaker 1: Bonnie and Rights. Hey, Buck, love your show, keep up
Speaker 1: the good work. Just wanted to say something here. In
Speaker 1: a crisis, you don't change leadership, right, FDR serve sixteen years.
Speaker 1: He's the only president who served two eight year terms
Speaker 1: back and back. So hopefully this will stand for the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty election. If all this virus keeps going on,
Speaker 1: this will be a crisis. If it keeps going on. Um, look,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna use this. Understand this that they're
Speaker 1: definitely going to um do everything that they can to
Speaker 1: make sure that this is used again and Stnald Trump
Speaker 1: so he does not get to stay as president. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's they're gonna do everything they can to get him
Speaker 1: out of office. So yeah, yep. FDR served four terms
Speaker 1: as US president. Let's see here, Rusty, hey buck oss here,
Speaker 1: I want to tell you about my experience with cruises.
Speaker 1: Don't knock it until you try it, all right, Rusty, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you've had good cruise experiences. I was
Speaker 1: out of it, the opposed to going out of First
Speaker 1: Cruise in twenty eighteen, but my lovely wife forced me
Speaker 1: and I've been hooked ever since I'm a bit of
Speaker 1: a germophoe but love cruising and I just practice good
Speaker 1: personal hygiene while on board ps. I'm with producer Mark
Speaker 1: Marvel movies are great, and these movies I can actually
Speaker 1: watch with my young ones shields high. So basically he's
Speaker 1: telling me I'm wrong about everything. That was a great
Speaker 1: email all around. Yeah, I was gonna say, that's apparently
Speaker 1: your favorite email of the day, cruser. Mark is awesome
Speaker 1: and right and are good buck, You're wrong. I mean
Speaker 1: it's to each of their own. But I personally enjoy
Speaker 1: cruises and soda a lot of people. Where'd you go
Speaker 1: in your cruise? Again? I was two years ago, I
Speaker 1: was Bahamas a couple other places I don't remember. How
Speaker 1: long do you dock and spend on the land, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm there. And how do you avoid getting left behind? Well,
Speaker 1: they tell you what time the boat's leaving, and if
Speaker 1: you don't get back like, there's actually people who get
Speaker 1: on the boat early and then go watch over the
Speaker 1: railings to watch the people sprinting down the dock so
Speaker 1: they don't miss the boat. Oh that's that. Actually people
Speaker 1: get close to missing the boat. Yeah, because they're stupid.
Speaker 1: And they don't look, they go get drunk on shore.
Speaker 1: What are the bars and they don't realize it and
Speaker 1: didn't realize my time. I'm guessing they don't sound like
Speaker 1: a little special helicopter for you like that kind of
Speaker 1: you have to make your own way. Do you have
Speaker 1: to go meet the boat? Yeah? Right, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I figured. Wow, Okay, that's a thing that happened.
Speaker 1: But how many hours are usually you go into I mean,
Speaker 1: the day one we ended up skipping a stop, so
Speaker 1: we were in Nassau, Bahamas for two days, But usually
Speaker 1: it's like eight to ten hours. You know. I actually
Speaker 1: hear the cruise ships that dock in New York from
Speaker 1: my apartment. I can hear the horns and stuff. That's
Speaker 1: where we went out of New York. Oh yeah, from
Speaker 1: Norwegian Cruise. There are cruise ships there. Yeah. Look, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the cruise industry because I think
Speaker 1: it's I'm sure there's you know, tons of great people
Speaker 1: that work in it and and they've given a lot
Speaker 1: of people a lot of joy over the years and
Speaker 1: everything else, and I mean they're just no one's going
Speaker 1: on cruises right now, oh yeah, right now. It would
Speaker 1: never go on a cruise. No, but but also think
Speaker 1: of I mean the economic damage. Yeah, I had one
Speaker 1: book for December. I'm hoping, hoping that still happens. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've already got something on the books for end of
Speaker 1: this year. But it's not a cruise. But I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: Although I did look at airline tickets I was wondering.
Speaker 1: I was like, the airlines are having tickets are super expensive. Still,
Speaker 1: oh really, I've seen some deals. Well there are now
Speaker 1: depending where. But this was in for December. They're not
Speaker 1: going to give you a deal now for December. They're figuring.
Speaker 1: You know, they're using the algorithms. You only get a
Speaker 1: deal if you're get a plan. Get on a plane
Speaker 1: right now. Sure, different deal, Wayne hey Buck. This morning
Speaker 1: some liberal works in my shop was talking about how
Speaker 1: much Trump stinks. I said, what exactly stinks about Trump
Speaker 1: or what he's done? He said, Mexico isn't paying for
Speaker 1: the wall like he promised. I said, that's it, that's
Speaker 1: all you got, Orange man bad. I laughed, then said,
Speaker 1: you know, Mexico is paying for the wall, and China
Speaker 1: and whomever else. We have tariffs. With tariffs equals tax
Speaker 1: dollars equals military budget equals wall is being built. I
Speaker 1: never saw him turn so red shieldsaye, well, Wayne, you're
Speaker 1: very amusing and obviously good on your feet in a debate.
Speaker 1: Just don't don't make the Libs too angry because they
Speaker 1: can cry or maybe they'll even try to like scratch
Speaker 1: your eyes out or something. So just be careful, don't
Speaker 1: upset the libs too much. Wayne, All right, there are
Speaker 1: limits to the upsetting of the libs. Gina. Hi again,
Speaker 1: Buck heard. He's saying people were complaining about your stance
Speaker 1: on some of James O'Keefe's recent undercovers. I completely agree.
Speaker 1: I am reminded of one year or so ago where
Speaker 1: he actually planted false info to get the scoop the
Speaker 1: news agency actually did their research and decline to press forward. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it degraded some of his subsequent pieces. In my mind,
Speaker 1: it took a minute to get back on board. We
Speaker 1: need people like James, but these stories he needs to
Speaker 1: break need to be earth shattering revelations, not mediocre. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know, tell us something new Shields high. Yeah, Gina,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I mean, you know, I can
Speaker 1: get any number of people who work for you know,
Speaker 1: I could maybe not me because they know I am now.
Speaker 1: But you go ask anybody at CNN if you're approached
Speaker 1: them in a social setting and get them a little
Speaker 1: drunk and be like, you know, what do you think
Speaker 1: what's going on over there? I'll be like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we're not fair to Trump, but we don't. A lot
Speaker 1: of them would probably say that, you know, if they're
Speaker 1: lower level people. I mean the anchors wouldn't because they
Speaker 1: know that they've got to be all careful, right, But
Speaker 1: lower level people would say that you want to get
Speaker 1: them fired? What do you think that's gonna do? What's
Speaker 1: the point We already know what's going on over there.
Speaker 1: There's there's not there's a revelation. So I understand people
Speaker 1: really want to think that. Like James O'Keefe is always
Speaker 1: sticking at the lips, and sometimes he does, but sometimes
Speaker 1: he's wrong or reovershoots or remisses, just like all the
Speaker 1: rest of us. So Colin balls and strikes folks. What
Speaker 1: we do here in the hud You're in the freedom Hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. James' great name.
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer is an activist using his Senate seat to
Speaker 1: be an activist. Schumer does not care what he's what
Speaker 1: he says. He's using the virus and calling President Trump
Speaker 1: and competent to put fear in America and the American people.
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer is a fearmonger and attacking President Trump because
Speaker 1: he has hate towards conservatives and Trump. She'll tie from
Speaker 1: w G y Up in Albany. Well, James, thanks for
Speaker 1: writing him, And Yeah, I think Chuck Schumer is being
Speaker 1: really really gross about this whole virus situation. I do
Speaker 1: not think he's being helpful. I do not think he's
Speaker 1: being honest. And I think that you're seeing the character
Speaker 1: of some of these leaders in a way that we
Speaker 1: should all be very mindful of. We should we should remember,
Speaker 1: we should know that this is what this is what
Speaker 1: we're dealing with. Here we go Chopper. Every time I
Speaker 1: see that, I think, get to a chopper that's a
Speaker 1: different kind of chopper, though, Buck, it won't do any
Speaker 1: good now. But Charman is sold out. Oh, because Charman
Speaker 1: is sold out. But once supply is restored, give this
Speaker 1: Charman forever. Ago. Each role lasts roughly six weeks, and
Speaker 1: it's wonderful to virtually never run out. Wow, I'm getting
Speaker 1: TP recommendations now from the audience producer. There were a
Speaker 1: lot of them. Some suggested a day is oh man,
Speaker 1: but I can never do the forever role. I don't
Speaker 1: think I have room in the bathroom for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big role. It's gonna be a big, huge role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to give you a special holder for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know so much. Yeah it's too much. I'm
Speaker 1: okay with just switching. Then it would stop me and
Speaker 1: my wife arguing about who should change the will. I
Speaker 1: was gonna, you know what, I know what I do though,
Speaker 1: So I've got the toilet paper holder, and then I
Speaker 1: always keep the extra on top of the actual toilet,
Speaker 1: like you know where they and I just use the
Speaker 1: extra all the time so that if anyone comes over,
Speaker 1: a guest or anything, we always have a brand new
Speaker 1: role that I never used, that is actually in the
Speaker 1: holder that looks nice, and I just use the one
Speaker 1: that's above the toilet. Yeah, the toilet. And also that
Speaker 1: means that means the nice, pretty one that's never touches
Speaker 1: my emergency in case I don't get you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, usually our toilet papers on the sink
Speaker 1: like on the counter because none of us bother to
Speaker 1: change it, like we run out of the one on
Speaker 1: the roll when one of us actually puts it on
Speaker 1: the holder, and then it does remind me of that
Speaker 1: movie The Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone
Speaker 1: where they talk about the three cshells and you never
Speaker 1: find out how to use them. But that's in place
Speaker 1: of toilet paper, and they think it's so funny that
Speaker 1: salone comes from an era in which they used wads
Speaker 1: of paper for that purpose. And you know, we we
Speaker 1: lived a very advanced society. Now I feel like we
Speaker 1: probably could up our game on this a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, do you want innovations in toilet paper? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean something better than toilet paper. I mean, wouldn't
Speaker 1: that be what a bidet is? Yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: that's that's a whole other thing. Don't you need to
Speaker 1: towel that afterwards? Like I think so? Actually, some in
Speaker 1: Japan have ones that then warm your buck. This is
Speaker 1: what I mean. Japan has like but cleaning and but
Speaker 1: warming instead of wiping. And you know that's advanced stuff
Speaker 1: that actually creeps me out a little bit because it's
Speaker 1: public toilets they have those in and like, wouldn't I
Speaker 1: get dirty? I don't know, I don't know. We're getting
Speaker 1: We're going We're going deep on this one, Larry A Buck.
Speaker 1: During the early part of your show, I heard AOC
Speaker 1: bleeding about the irreversible nature of climate change, climate change,
Speaker 1: and that we should be paying attention to it, whatever
Speaker 1: that's supposed to mean. I have one simple question for
Speaker 1: AOC and her ilk. If climate change is irreversible, which
Speaker 1: of course it is, why in the world there are
Speaker 1: some people proposing that we throw unspeakable a bounts of money,
Speaker 1: while at the same time devoting unknown numbers of man
Speaker 1: hours to dealing with the worldwide disruptions that some sort
Speaker 1: of port pointless spending will cause economically and otherwise. If
Speaker 1: something is admittedly irreversible, wouldn't it make it a heck
Speaker 1: of a lot more sense to maximize our efforts toward
Speaker 1: preparing for it. It almost makes one think that rather
Speaker 1: than a genuinely imminent crisis, what we're actually dealing with
Speaker 1: is an agenda to grad having hoard as much power
Speaker 1: as possible in an effort to have complete control of
Speaker 1: the unwashed masses. That's just crazy though, right, Shieldsayebuck and
Speaker 1: a producer Mark Producer, Mark says to you too, buddy, Larry,
Speaker 1: and yeah, the climate change stuff is nuts, and shouldn't
Speaker 1: we be just take a moment here. I think it's
Speaker 1: fair that we take a step back and say, Wow,
Speaker 1: maybe the scientific community, instead of allowing for the constant
Speaker 1: browbeating and lectures over climate change, which is not a threat,
Speaker 1: maybe they had more important things to focus on. Maybe
Speaker 1: there were other areas. Now I'm not saying more. You
Speaker 1: can do this to anybody wrote, Oh, how could you
Speaker 1: talk about that when people are starving in some far
Speaker 1: off country. No, no, no, I mean the scientific community.
Speaker 1: We always hear about scientists and climate change. Why have
Speaker 1: we not been hearing in recent years about pandemics and
Speaker 1: pandemic preparedness. That's the real question. That it is a
Speaker 1: real question, at least, Michael hey Buck. I grew up
Speaker 1: in a pretty tough neighborhood, so I know many two
Speaker 1: very tough individuals. They all have one thing in common.
Speaker 1: They don't know how they don't go around saying how
Speaker 1: tough they are constantly challenging people to fight's like Biden does.
Speaker 1: Joe reminds me of the guy that's always running his
Speaker 1: mouth but can't actually back it up. I know a
Speaker 1: few of those guys too. Shields. Ye, yeah, Michael, I
Speaker 1: hear you. You know, and Biden seems to have a
Speaker 1: chip on a shoulder about all this stuff. And then
Speaker 1: Andrew writes buck Eddie Murphy's greatest two movies have to
Speaker 1: be Coming to America and or Trading Places. Are you
Speaker 1: familiar with the tie between those movies? When Hakim meets
Speaker 1: the two homeless guys in the street, he gives them
Speaker 1: a bag in cash. Movies are so much better back
Speaker 1: then classics. Yes, I'm familiar with both those movies as
Speaker 1: well as the tie in. Everybody, please stay calm, stay safe,
Speaker 1: stay sound, hold your loved ones close, Listen to the
Speaker 1: authorities as much as you can about keeping yourself safe
Speaker 1: on this. When we'll get through, we will be together
Speaker 1: on this and we will keep our shields. Hie