1 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:08,995 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:27,955 --> 00:00:32,035 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham is guilty of stochastic terrorism, and he must 3 00:00:32,035 --> 00:00:35,755 Speaker 1: be held accountable for it. He is also a worthless, gutless, 4 00:00:35,955 --> 00:00:41,635 Speaker 1: useless liar. Quote. I reject violence, he said in a 5 00:00:41,675 --> 00:00:44,795 Speaker 1: speech in Charleston yesterday, a day after invoking violence as 6 00:00:44,835 --> 00:00:47,595 Speaker 1: a direct threat to this country and against the Department 7 00:00:47,595 --> 00:00:52,675 Speaker 1: of Justice when it prosecutes Trump. Quote I reject violence. 8 00:00:52,955 --> 00:00:56,795 Speaker 1: I'm not calling for violence, but the bottom line is 9 00:00:57,155 --> 00:01:00,475 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of upset people if Trump 10 00:01:00,555 --> 00:01:04,555 Speaker 1: is charged. So what take your upset and shove it, lindsay, 11 00:01:04,995 --> 00:01:07,675 Speaker 1: there is the law and then there is Donald Trump. 12 00:01:08,195 --> 00:01:11,635 Speaker 1: We cannot have both. There is America and then there 13 00:01:11,675 --> 00:01:15,795 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump. We cannot have both. And you, Senator Graham, 14 00:01:15,835 --> 00:01:19,355 Speaker 1: are defiling your office and spitting on the Constitution of 15 00:01:19,395 --> 00:01:22,795 Speaker 1: the United States. When you owe so cleverly phrase your 16 00:01:22,875 --> 00:01:26,435 Speaker 1: call to violence, your threat of violence, your promise of 17 00:01:26,515 --> 00:01:30,995 Speaker 1: violence in the classic outlines of stochastic terrorism. You say 18 00:01:31,035 --> 00:01:35,395 Speaker 1: it with plausible deniability while people hear your words, and 19 00:01:35,475 --> 00:01:38,235 Speaker 1: tomorrow or next week or next month, we have another 20 00:01:38,235 --> 00:01:40,915 Speaker 1: attack on the FBI or the Proud Boys and the 21 00:01:40,915 --> 00:01:44,475 Speaker 1: oath keepers attack some gathering of vulnerable people, and you 22 00:01:44,515 --> 00:01:47,755 Speaker 1: can say I reject violence. I'm not calling for violence 23 00:01:47,995 --> 00:01:52,915 Speaker 1: again after others have committed the violence for you on 24 00:01:52,955 --> 00:01:58,195 Speaker 1: your behalf, following your instructions and pursuance to your dreams. 25 00:01:59,435 --> 00:02:04,635 Speaker 1: Tell me, Lindsey Graham, where exactly in the sound bite 26 00:02:04,715 --> 00:02:09,835 Speaker 1: from Fox News Channel Sunday did you reject violence? If 27 00:02:09,835 --> 00:02:13,875 Speaker 1: there's a prosecution of Donald Trump for misshandling classified information 28 00:02:14,315 --> 00:02:17,235 Speaker 1: after the Clinton debacle, which you presided over and did 29 00:02:17,235 --> 00:02:19,555 Speaker 1: a hell of a good job, there'll be riots in 30 00:02:19,635 --> 00:02:23,315 Speaker 1: the streets. Where is the rejection of riots in the streets. 31 00:02:23,675 --> 00:02:26,835 Speaker 1: Where is even the tone of disapproval about riots in 32 00:02:26,875 --> 00:02:31,235 Speaker 1: the streets. You're full of crap, Graham. When Lindsey Graham 33 00:02:31,275 --> 00:02:36,515 Speaker 1: had the audacity to pretend he was rejecting violence, yesterday 34 00:02:36,635 --> 00:02:41,715 Speaker 1: he told that same audience in Charleston again he invoked 35 00:02:41,835 --> 00:02:45,795 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Quote, America cannot live with this kind of 36 00:02:45,915 --> 00:02:53,995 Speaker 1: double standard, double standard, this sniveling, boot licking, unprincipled, cowardly, 37 00:02:54,115 --> 00:02:57,555 Speaker 1: stochastic terrorist. Lindsey Graham, the same one who said of 38 00:02:57,635 --> 00:03:02,155 Speaker 1: Donald Trump on the night of January quote, all I 39 00:03:02,235 --> 00:03:05,675 Speaker 1: can say is count me out an enough is enough? 40 00:03:05,875 --> 00:03:08,715 Speaker 1: Well it wasn't enough, was it? No need for Trump 41 00:03:08,755 --> 00:03:11,635 Speaker 1: to count you out right? You're back whoring for him, 42 00:03:11,755 --> 00:03:15,715 Speaker 1: ready to encourage his fascists to try January six again 43 00:03:15,995 --> 00:03:20,915 Speaker 1: in defense of this scumbag Trump. The double standard is 44 00:03:20,955 --> 00:03:23,795 Speaker 1: in your own addled brain, Lindsey Graham, you want to 45 00:03:23,835 --> 00:03:26,155 Speaker 1: stay in the Senate, you get down on your knees 46 00:03:26,155 --> 00:03:28,995 Speaker 1: and apologize to America for what you have said, for 47 00:03:29,075 --> 00:03:31,595 Speaker 1: what you have threatened, for what you have tried to 48 00:03:31,755 --> 00:03:36,995 Speaker 1: will into existence when Trump is prosecuted, If there is 49 00:03:37,035 --> 00:03:40,635 Speaker 1: any violence from the slime who support him, you helped 50 00:03:40,635 --> 00:03:46,235 Speaker 1: cause it. Lindsey Graham. A spokesman for Mr. Graham, Kevin Bishop, 51 00:03:46,675 --> 00:03:49,675 Speaker 1: writes The New York Times emphasized on Monday that the 52 00:03:49,715 --> 00:03:55,115 Speaker 1: Senator was making a prediction, not a threat. My ass, 53 00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:59,235 Speaker 1: if there's a prosecution of Donald Trump for mishandling classified 54 00:03:59,235 --> 00:04:03,035 Speaker 1: information after the Clinton debacle, which you've presided over and 55 00:04:03,075 --> 00:04:05,515 Speaker 1: did a hell of a good job, be riots in 56 00:04:05,595 --> 00:04:09,835 Speaker 1: the streets, a prediction, not a threat, because of course 57 00:04:09,875 --> 00:04:14,395 Speaker 1: he rejects violence. Though Lindsey Graham didn't say it there, 58 00:04:14,435 --> 00:04:17,075 Speaker 1: did he? And Lindsay Graham's words didn't sound like it 59 00:04:17,155 --> 00:04:22,955 Speaker 1: and Lindsey Graham is a goddamned opportunistic liar. And furthermore, 60 00:04:22,995 --> 00:04:26,835 Speaker 1: this is all fodder for the worst stochastic terrorists of 61 00:04:26,915 --> 00:04:33,035 Speaker 1: them all. Trump posted the clip of Graham on Sunday night. 62 00:04:33,115 --> 00:04:37,795 Speaker 1: Trump posted an article yesterday comparing the FBI at Ruby 63 00:04:37,955 --> 00:04:43,395 Speaker 1: Ridge to the Gestapo. We have been here already Ruby Ridge, 64 00:04:43,755 --> 00:04:48,155 Speaker 1: and the idea that the FBI was the bad guy 65 00:04:48,355 --> 00:04:51,715 Speaker 1: sent Timothy McVeigh into the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City 66 00:04:51,715 --> 00:04:55,875 Speaker 1: and a hundred and sixty eight people died riots in 67 00:04:55,915 --> 00:05:00,675 Speaker 1: the streets. They are all symbolically gathering to start those 68 00:05:00,795 --> 00:05:06,235 Speaker 1: riots already. They are just waiting for an excuse. And 69 00:05:06,355 --> 00:05:09,675 Speaker 1: the dumbest part of all this is some kind of 70 00:05:09,795 --> 00:05:17,915 Speaker 1: idea behind which Lindsey Graham hides that if Trump isn't prosecuted, 71 00:05:19,235 --> 00:05:25,035 Speaker 1: there won't be fascist violence. Because Lindsey Graham's words were 72 00:05:25,075 --> 00:05:28,035 Speaker 1: not just stochastic for the next Timothy mcveigh's, they were 73 00:05:28,035 --> 00:05:33,555 Speaker 1: stochastic for Trump himself. Trump, cheered by the thought of 74 00:05:33,595 --> 00:05:38,395 Speaker 1: American streets running red with American blood, he has now 75 00:05:38,435 --> 00:05:44,955 Speaker 1: demanded to be made president immediately buoyed by Lindsey Graham's 76 00:05:44,995 --> 00:05:48,795 Speaker 1: mere prediction of violence. He has declared that it has 77 00:05:48,835 --> 00:05:54,075 Speaker 1: been conclusively proved the FBI quote buried the Hunter Biden 78 00:05:54,195 --> 00:05:57,355 Speaker 1: laptop story, knowing that if they didn't, And he puts 79 00:05:57,355 --> 00:06:00,155 Speaker 1: the next part in quotes as if it's some kind 80 00:06:00,195 --> 00:06:05,515 Speaker 1: of official finding rather than his own delusion. Quote, Trump 81 00:06:05,595 --> 00:06:10,195 Speaker 1: would have easily won the presidential election unquote. This is 82 00:06:10,315 --> 00:06:13,635 Speaker 1: massive fraud and election interference at a level never seen 83 00:06:13,715 --> 00:06:17,835 Speaker 1: before in our country. Remedy declare the rightful winner, or 84 00:06:17,955 --> 00:06:21,075 Speaker 1: and this would be the minimal solution, declare the election 85 00:06:21,235 --> 00:06:24,955 Speaker 1: irreparably compromised and have a new election immediately. The rightful 86 00:06:24,995 --> 00:06:26,675 Speaker 1: winner was Joe Biden, and the rest of you who 87 00:06:26,675 --> 00:06:32,275 Speaker 1: don't think so can go to hell. How's that? So 88 00:06:32,315 --> 00:06:37,235 Speaker 1: he wants to be named president Thursday? Sounds crazy to you? 89 00:06:37,315 --> 00:06:41,275 Speaker 1: Of course it does. Trump is one step shy of 90 00:06:41,315 --> 00:06:44,195 Speaker 1: becoming the crazy woman who has declared yourself Queen of 91 00:06:44,275 --> 00:06:48,315 Speaker 1: Canada and has encouraged people to try to arrest police. 92 00:06:49,315 --> 00:06:52,155 Speaker 1: And last month she named a king and Queen of 93 00:06:52,195 --> 00:06:56,075 Speaker 1: America who worked for her or something. But so what 94 00:06:56,155 --> 00:06:59,315 Speaker 1: if Trump is now fully insane? Does it matter to 95 00:06:59,355 --> 00:07:04,235 Speaker 1: the next Timothy McVeigh. Trump is an excuse for people 96 00:07:04,755 --> 00:07:08,195 Speaker 1: who dream of killing other people, to try to kill 97 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:14,275 Speaker 1: other people, dozens, hundreds, thousands lash out in rage because 98 00:07:14,315 --> 00:07:17,555 Speaker 1: they cannot get their own way, and their messiah of 99 00:07:17,595 --> 00:07:21,475 Speaker 1: self obsession has given them the excuse. Then, because of 100 00:07:21,515 --> 00:07:24,795 Speaker 1: the Trumps, and because of the right wing commentators, and 101 00:07:24,875 --> 00:07:28,075 Speaker 1: because of Tucker Carlson, and because of Lindsey Graham, somebody 102 00:07:28,115 --> 00:07:31,035 Speaker 1: will try to reenact Oklahoma City or nine eleven or 103 00:07:31,115 --> 00:07:37,675 Speaker 1: January six, or god knows what next time. Meanwhile, some facts, 104 00:07:37,915 --> 00:07:41,755 Speaker 1: as expected, the Special Master suit figures to backfire on Trump. 105 00:07:41,835 --> 00:07:44,875 Speaker 1: The Department of Justice advised the Trump appointed judge in 106 00:07:44,915 --> 00:07:48,955 Speaker 1: Florida that it had essentially finished separating out any attorney 107 00:07:48,955 --> 00:07:51,315 Speaker 1: client materials that might have been scooped up inadvertently on 108 00:07:51,355 --> 00:07:54,995 Speaker 1: August eight, when FBI agents rescued the documents Trump stole, 109 00:07:55,955 --> 00:07:58,475 Speaker 1: and as also previously reported here, there may be a 110 00:07:58,515 --> 00:08:01,555 Speaker 1: sting in the d J tail and has also told 111 00:08:01,555 --> 00:08:04,155 Speaker 1: the judge that its response to that Trump suit could 112 00:08:04,195 --> 00:08:08,675 Speaker 1: extend to forty pages in order to quote adequately address 113 00:08:08,795 --> 00:08:13,915 Speaker 1: the legal and factual issues in the Trump filing. Somebody's 114 00:08:13,915 --> 00:08:17,035 Speaker 1: gonna get spanked, and that may make the entire pointless. 115 00:08:17,075 --> 00:08:19,955 Speaker 1: Meandering into the courtroom, of Judge Eileen I Owe my 116 00:08:20,075 --> 00:08:23,915 Speaker 1: job to Trump canon worth It, and several news organizations 117 00:08:23,915 --> 00:08:26,875 Speaker 1: say the FBI began working with the intelligence community in 118 00:08:26,955 --> 00:08:30,915 Speaker 1: May to examine the classified documents Trump took and returned 119 00:08:31,435 --> 00:08:34,675 Speaker 1: and to determine whether national security has been damaged or threatened, 120 00:08:35,035 --> 00:08:37,875 Speaker 1: and whether human assets have been put at risk. And 121 00:08:37,995 --> 00:08:41,355 Speaker 1: inside that story, we may finally have an explanation for 122 00:08:41,395 --> 00:08:44,555 Speaker 1: why authorities have seemingly moved so slowly and certainly so 123 00:08:44,595 --> 00:08:48,635 Speaker 1: stealthily these last few months, simply to give our double 124 00:08:48,675 --> 00:08:52,835 Speaker 1: agents around the world the chance to get out alive 125 00:08:54,555 --> 00:08:58,635 Speaker 1: riots in the street from the people for whom law 126 00:08:58,755 --> 00:09:02,075 Speaker 1: and order is a brand name, a catch phrase. They 127 00:09:02,115 --> 00:09:04,235 Speaker 1: are going to go to war because Trump is going 128 00:09:04,275 --> 00:09:07,235 Speaker 1: to prey and for outing the people who are really 129 00:09:07,355 --> 00:09:10,515 Speaker 1: doing the law and order on behalf of this nation, 130 00:09:10,555 --> 00:09:13,155 Speaker 1: on behalf of them around the world makes you want 131 00:09:13,195 --> 00:09:19,315 Speaker 1: to vomit on Lindsey Graham, one glimmer of good news. 132 00:09:19,835 --> 00:09:24,115 Speaker 1: Trump's plant inside the Secret Service has quit. Tony Ornado 133 00:09:24,195 --> 00:09:27,795 Speaker 1: went from agent to Trump's deputy chief of staff, back 134 00:09:27,875 --> 00:09:30,715 Speaker 1: to leading the training at the Secret Service, as if 135 00:09:30,755 --> 00:09:34,075 Speaker 1: that job boomerang were somehow okay. He was also a 136 00:09:34,195 --> 00:09:36,875 Speaker 1: quoted witness in the January six hearings. We'll see where 137 00:09:36,915 --> 00:09:40,115 Speaker 1: that goes. Now. He says he's retiring after twenty five 138 00:09:40,195 --> 00:09:44,395 Speaker 1: years to go into the private sector. Yes, sir, you're retiring. 139 00:09:45,555 --> 00:09:47,715 Speaker 1: He claims he is not going to go work for Trump, 140 00:09:47,755 --> 00:09:50,235 Speaker 1: But one of Trump's ex stafford said on CNN last night, 141 00:09:50,235 --> 00:09:52,435 Speaker 1: expect him to wind up in the outskirts of Trump 142 00:09:52,555 --> 00:09:56,635 Speaker 1: Land as some rich Maga's security chief. I assume Tony 143 00:09:56,755 --> 00:10:00,315 Speaker 1: Ornado will be available when the riots in the streets begin. 144 00:10:01,635 --> 00:10:05,635 Speaker 1: Also on the Trump periphery, a widely misreported story yesterday 145 00:10:05,715 --> 00:10:09,115 Speaker 1: that needs clarification. What you heard was a judge had 146 00:10:09,195 --> 00:10:12,435 Speaker 1: ordered the Georgia governor, Brian Kemp to testify to the 147 00:10:12,475 --> 00:10:15,355 Speaker 1: grand jury looking into Trump's attempt to erase the vote 148 00:10:15,355 --> 00:10:17,995 Speaker 1: in that state. In fact, the judge did not do that. 149 00:10:18,275 --> 00:10:21,475 Speaker 1: The judge agreed to Kemp's request that he should not 150 00:10:21,555 --> 00:10:25,715 Speaker 1: have to testify at all until after the election, but 151 00:10:25,915 --> 00:10:28,275 Speaker 1: left open the question as to whether or not Kemp 152 00:10:28,315 --> 00:10:31,755 Speaker 1: would do so. Even then, he may not testify after 153 00:10:31,795 --> 00:10:35,755 Speaker 1: the election. And still we hear the question why did 154 00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:41,035 Speaker 1: Trump steal stuff? Last night? A microscopic part of an 155 00:10:41,075 --> 00:10:48,315 Speaker 1: answer that fits perfectly. Remember July two thousand seventeen, where 156 00:10:48,355 --> 00:10:50,795 Speaker 1: were you and who were you with when you first 157 00:10:50,835 --> 00:10:54,755 Speaker 1: were embarrassed by Trump's state visit to France? Not roughly 158 00:10:54,795 --> 00:10:59,235 Speaker 1: the seventy third time Trump had embarrassed us. Remember he 159 00:10:59,315 --> 00:11:03,115 Speaker 1: praised the French First Lady, Brigitte mccron for being in 160 00:11:03,315 --> 00:11:08,115 Speaker 1: quote such good shape. Rolling Stone reporting last night that 161 00:11:08,155 --> 00:11:10,475 Speaker 1: they have two sources who have identified what is in 162 00:11:11,355 --> 00:11:14,875 Speaker 1: item one A on the Mari Lago search list, openly 163 00:11:14,955 --> 00:11:23,555 Speaker 1: labeled only as info Ray President of France. Quote. Trump 164 00:11:23,595 --> 00:11:26,395 Speaker 1: has bragged to some of his closest associates both during 165 00:11:26,395 --> 00:11:28,755 Speaker 1: and after his time in the White House. The magazine 166 00:11:28,795 --> 00:11:34,435 Speaker 1: reports that he knew elicit details about the love life 167 00:11:35,115 --> 00:11:40,075 Speaker 1: of French President Emmanuel mc kroll, of course, explains the 168 00:11:40,195 --> 00:11:45,715 Speaker 1: such good shape remark. Continuing, the former president even claimed 169 00:11:46,435 --> 00:11:49,475 Speaker 1: that he learned about some of this dirt through quote 170 00:11:49,515 --> 00:11:54,315 Speaker 1: intelligence unquote he had seen or been briefed on. Those 171 00:11:54,315 --> 00:12:00,475 Speaker 1: sources say, since two thousand fifteen, there have been ten 172 00:12:00,635 --> 00:12:07,715 Speaker 1: thousand explanations of Trump, from psychopathy to venereal disease. Then 173 00:12:07,795 --> 00:12:10,755 Speaker 1: you hear a story like this about the Macrons, and 174 00:12:10,875 --> 00:12:24,035 Speaker 1: you remember, Trump is just a scumbag still ahead on Countdown. 175 00:12:24,155 --> 00:12:27,635 Speaker 1: Reports that NBC News may be about to kick Chuck 176 00:12:27,795 --> 00:12:33,795 Speaker 1: Todd off Meet the Press. Hallelujah. I will commend Aaron 177 00:12:33,915 --> 00:12:36,715 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Joe Rogan for publicly admitting they're afraid of 178 00:12:36,755 --> 00:12:41,875 Speaker 1: the vaccination needle. Mike Lindell is the saddest election lunatic 179 00:12:41,995 --> 00:12:45,035 Speaker 1: you will ever hear, and he got a lot sadder 180 00:12:45,075 --> 00:12:48,155 Speaker 1: over the weekend, as it turns out. And twenty five 181 00:12:48,235 --> 00:12:51,995 Speaker 1: years ago the terrible news came from Paris, and ever 182 00:12:52,075 --> 00:12:57,475 Speaker 1: since American news has been terrible. That's next. This is Countdown. 183 00:13:04,435 --> 00:13:11,595 Speaker 1: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman coming up. Are they 184 00:13:11,635 --> 00:13:14,675 Speaker 1: about to fire Chuck Todd from Meet the Press? That's 185 00:13:14,675 --> 00:13:17,675 Speaker 1: the rumor. Plus, I'd like to commend Aaron Rodgers and 186 00:13:17,755 --> 00:13:20,595 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan for being so public about being so afraid 187 00:13:20,675 --> 00:13:25,275 Speaker 1: of the vaccination needles. Boo boos are big things. First, 188 00:13:25,275 --> 00:13:27,235 Speaker 1: in each edition of Countdown, we feature a dog in 189 00:13:27,315 --> 00:13:29,595 Speaker 1: need whom you can help. Every dog has its day. 190 00:13:29,835 --> 00:13:33,435 Speaker 1: We go to Nebraska and Javanchi. If you follow Gideon 191 00:13:33,555 --> 00:13:36,355 Speaker 1: the I've pet that dog guy on Twitter, he mentioned 192 00:13:36,355 --> 00:13:41,635 Speaker 1: her yesterday. Javanchi is sixty seven pounds boxer terrier pibble mix, 193 00:13:42,115 --> 00:13:44,955 Speaker 1: smart as a whip, very active, loves puzzles and congs, 194 00:13:45,315 --> 00:13:47,755 Speaker 1: and needs an adult's only home and a lot of 195 00:13:47,795 --> 00:13:50,595 Speaker 1: space to run around in in Nebraska. To find out 196 00:13:50,595 --> 00:13:54,555 Speaker 1: more about Javanchi and how you can contribute to possibly 197 00:13:54,595 --> 00:13:57,115 Speaker 1: getting her adopted, check my Twitter feed for dogs in 198 00:13:57,195 --> 00:14:00,115 Speaker 1: need at tom Jumbo Grumbo. Look for the tweet about 199 00:14:00,155 --> 00:14:03,515 Speaker 1: Javanshi and if you can't donate, just retweeting it could 200 00:14:03,555 --> 00:14:05,995 Speaker 1: make a huge difference. I wonder if she pronounces it 201 00:14:06,115 --> 00:14:28,835 Speaker 1: Javenci and thank you very much. Coming up on countdown, 202 00:14:28,915 --> 00:14:33,395 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers doesn't like me. Somebody 203 00:14:33,475 --> 00:14:35,995 Speaker 1: really doesn't like Nicki Haley based on the gift they 204 00:14:36,075 --> 00:14:38,835 Speaker 1: gave her. And twenty five years ago, tonight was when 205 00:14:38,835 --> 00:14:41,795 Speaker 1: the sad details came in from Paris. Diana was dead. 206 00:14:42,355 --> 00:14:45,395 Speaker 1: It was also the end of the decency, if any 207 00:14:45,435 --> 00:14:49,075 Speaker 1: remained of the news industry. Coming up first, postscripts to 208 00:14:49,115 --> 00:14:58,035 Speaker 1: the news, some headlines, some thoughts, some snark. Dateline Philadelphia, 209 00:14:58,195 --> 00:15:01,995 Speaker 1: somebody likes that word semi fascism. President Biden will speak 210 00:15:02,035 --> 00:15:05,235 Speaker 1: in prime time in front of Independence Hall thir Thursday night. 211 00:15:05,275 --> 00:15:08,475 Speaker 1: Topic the continued battle for the soul of the nation, 212 00:15:08,595 --> 00:15:13,515 Speaker 1: Keep Going dropped the semi Meanwhile, bizarre Biden Pole news 213 00:15:13,555 --> 00:15:17,275 Speaker 1: from Rasmussen reports from the people who invented ESPN then 214 00:15:17,315 --> 00:15:20,755 Speaker 1: sold it for some magic beans and a quarter. Rasmussen 215 00:15:21,275 --> 00:15:25,035 Speaker 1: skews plus five plus ten, sometimes plus twenty for the 216 00:15:25,035 --> 00:15:30,035 Speaker 1: Republican It has Biden's approval at forty five cent. Dateline 217 00:15:30,115 --> 00:15:33,795 Speaker 1: thirty rock is Chuck Todd finally out as host of 218 00:15:33,835 --> 00:15:38,115 Speaker 1: Meet the Press. The Daily Beast media newsletter confider says 219 00:15:38,155 --> 00:15:41,275 Speaker 1: the reported shift of the executive producer of the NBC 220 00:15:41,635 --> 00:15:45,395 Speaker 1: Both Sides is um Fest was in fact demoted over 221 00:15:45,475 --> 00:15:49,755 Speaker 1: bad ratings down in a year, quoting NBC White House 222 00:15:49,755 --> 00:15:53,715 Speaker 1: correspondent Kristen Welker, is being groomed to replace Todd, multiple 223 00:15:53,755 --> 00:15:57,915 Speaker 1: insiders with knowledge of the matter, said reporter Lachlan Cartwright quotes, 224 00:15:57,995 --> 00:16:00,995 Speaker 1: one insider is saying, at what point does anyone have 225 00:16:01,115 --> 00:16:04,555 Speaker 1: the balls to say, maybe the problem is the face 226 00:16:04,795 --> 00:16:11,355 Speaker 1: a bit. The correct answer to that question is Dateline Louisville. 227 00:16:11,755 --> 00:16:14,915 Speaker 1: We're not in a recession, so says Mitch McConnell. On 228 00:16:14,995 --> 00:16:17,795 Speaker 1: August one, the Senate Minority leader said we were in 229 00:16:17,795 --> 00:16:21,075 Speaker 1: a recession. Yesterday at a news conference, McConnell announced that 230 00:16:21,155 --> 00:16:24,795 Speaker 1: democratic spending measures are quote likely to lead next to 231 00:16:24,915 --> 00:16:27,915 Speaker 1: a recession. Why that means we've come out of a recession, 232 00:16:27,955 --> 00:16:32,315 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mitch. Dateline, Washington. The Danish de Suza pile 233 00:16:32,395 --> 00:16:35,795 Speaker 1: of crap in a book cover called two Thousand Mules 234 00:16:36,075 --> 00:16:39,915 Speaker 1: has been recalled by the publisher Regnary, the vanity press 235 00:16:39,955 --> 00:16:42,955 Speaker 1: for the fascist set, has put out an alert to 236 00:16:43,075 --> 00:16:46,915 Speaker 1: all booksellers, a full recall to the big red exclamation 237 00:16:46,995 --> 00:16:50,115 Speaker 1: point on it. It got to Walmart, and from Walmart 238 00:16:50,155 --> 00:16:54,315 Speaker 1: to author Nancy Levine Regnery, saying only it was erroneously 239 00:16:54,515 --> 00:16:58,555 Speaker 1: published too soon. That two thousand Mules named Denise de 240 00:16:58,635 --> 00:17:01,915 Speaker 1: Susa was not supposed to come out today, but rather 241 00:17:02,075 --> 00:17:06,355 Speaker 1: on October. Uh, could you've gotten made? About a better 242 00:17:06,475 --> 00:17:09,035 Speaker 1: excuse for this, my God? To steal an old Chevy 243 00:17:09,115 --> 00:17:12,075 Speaker 1: Chase Saturday Night Live joke, they will skip the traditional 244 00:17:12,115 --> 00:17:16,115 Speaker 1: paperback edition and go directly to one printed on confetti. 245 00:17:16,875 --> 00:17:20,075 Speaker 1: Date Line Gettysburg. More evidence that the Republican candidate for 246 00:17:20,115 --> 00:17:24,795 Speaker 1: governor Pennsylvania, Dug Masscriano, is not loyal to this country. First, 247 00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:27,235 Speaker 1: it was the two thousand thirteen photo of him. In 248 00:17:27,275 --> 00:17:31,515 Speaker 1: a Confederate uniform. Now video surfaces of him thanking passers 249 00:17:31,595 --> 00:17:38,195 Speaker 1: by in for supposedly defending the statue in Gettysburg of 250 00:17:38,395 --> 00:17:55,795 Speaker 1: Robert E. Lee. This is Sports Center. Wait, check that 251 00:17:56,915 --> 00:18:04,435 Speaker 1: not anymore. This is Countdown with Keith Alberman in sports 252 00:18:04,795 --> 00:18:06,835 Speaker 1: the last days of August, the US Open, the start 253 00:18:06,835 --> 00:18:09,035 Speaker 1: of that two weeks when America pretends it still cares 254 00:18:09,075 --> 00:18:12,995 Speaker 1: about tennis, it still cares about Serena Williams. After that, 255 00:18:14,195 --> 00:18:17,155 Speaker 1: I don't know. After a sluggish start, Serena opened what 256 00:18:17,275 --> 00:18:19,355 Speaker 1: is supposed to be her swan song last night with 257 00:18:19,395 --> 00:18:23,155 Speaker 1: the six three six three blowout of Donka Kovinch. Nothing 258 00:18:23,155 --> 00:18:25,835 Speaker 1: would serve tennis better in this country than Serena Williams 259 00:18:25,955 --> 00:18:28,515 Speaker 1: running the table and winning the Open and then retiring, 260 00:18:28,555 --> 00:18:32,435 Speaker 1: as hinted, at least until tennis realized that she was 261 00:18:32,475 --> 00:18:38,595 Speaker 1: actually retired and its next most famous player is also 262 00:18:38,715 --> 00:18:41,995 Speaker 1: President Clinton was there at Arthur Ashe Stadium last night, 263 00:18:42,035 --> 00:18:46,795 Speaker 1: seated next to Dr Ruth Westhimer, the sex expert from 264 00:18:46,795 --> 00:18:51,635 Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties. Now I'm not kidding he she 265 00:18:51,755 --> 00:18:54,395 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that Clinton was using some form 266 00:18:54,435 --> 00:18:57,275 Speaker 1: of condominium. You know how old she is she's two 267 00:18:57,355 --> 00:19:02,635 Speaker 1: hundred and six. Actually she's four football ESPN reports Jimmy 268 00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:05,235 Speaker 1: Garoppolo will not be traded by the Four Diners, that 269 00:19:05,275 --> 00:19:08,195 Speaker 1: they restructured their deal with the quarterback. Oh and also 270 00:19:08,355 --> 00:19:13,235 Speaker 1: nobody wanted a trade for him. Speaking of quarterbacks, Aaron 271 00:19:13,315 --> 00:19:16,035 Speaker 1: Rodgers of the Green Bay Packers faces up, as the 272 00:19:16,035 --> 00:19:18,915 Speaker 1: New York Daily News puts it, quote, Rogers has finally 273 00:19:18,955 --> 00:19:22,435 Speaker 1: admitted publicly that he purposely misled the media and public 274 00:19:22,515 --> 00:19:26,755 Speaker 1: last year about his COVID nineteen vaccination status. After first 275 00:19:26,795 --> 00:19:30,635 Speaker 1: applying for an exemption from the NFL's inoculation requirement last year. 276 00:19:30,915 --> 00:19:35,275 Speaker 1: Rogers told Joe Rogan Saturday he intentionally gave a vague, 277 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:38,875 Speaker 1: misleading answer to queries about whether he had received the 278 00:19:38,915 --> 00:19:44,075 Speaker 1: shots last November. After declaring himself quote immunized, Rogers continued 279 00:19:44,155 --> 00:19:48,555 Speaker 1: to sow confusion by appearing at press conferences maskless which 280 00:19:48,555 --> 00:19:51,315 Speaker 1: players had to be vaccinated in order to do end 281 00:19:51,435 --> 00:19:54,035 Speaker 1: quote from the Daily News. But this is where it 282 00:19:54,115 --> 00:19:58,035 Speaker 1: got strange. In that thing with Rogan, Rogers added, quote, 283 00:19:58,435 --> 00:20:00,835 Speaker 1: I lost the majority of allies I thought I had 284 00:20:00,835 --> 00:20:03,835 Speaker 1: in the media. People just said just get the jab 285 00:20:04,035 --> 00:20:06,955 Speaker 1: The Keith over of the world just get the damn jab. 286 00:20:08,075 --> 00:20:11,955 Speaker 1: This happened on Saturday. I went and looked. Since February, 287 00:20:12,035 --> 00:20:15,955 Speaker 1: I have sent one tweet mentioning Aaron Rodgers, and I've 288 00:20:15,955 --> 00:20:19,995 Speaker 1: mentioned Aaron Rodgers once on this podcast. And I am 289 00:20:20,035 --> 00:20:24,155 Speaker 1: living in his head rent free. As the kids say, 290 00:20:24,555 --> 00:20:28,875 Speaker 1: shrug emoji. I'm a little worried about Aaron's self destruction. 291 00:20:28,995 --> 00:20:32,515 Speaker 1: First there was the fake sage stuff about not getting vaccinated. 292 00:20:32,555 --> 00:20:35,435 Speaker 1: Then he lied about getting vaccinated. Then he spat out 293 00:20:35,475 --> 00:20:38,115 Speaker 1: the whole oh, I'm a critical thinker who did my 294 00:20:38,115 --> 00:20:41,035 Speaker 1: own research cliches. Then he pushed quack cures on the 295 00:20:41,115 --> 00:20:44,395 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan three hour torture experience. Then he talked about 296 00:20:44,395 --> 00:20:48,315 Speaker 1: how he couldn't permit unknown substances into his great athletic body. 297 00:20:48,555 --> 00:20:51,875 Speaker 1: Then he admitted he'd taken the Pancha Karma clens, which 298 00:20:51,915 --> 00:20:55,835 Speaker 1: involves having unknown substances shot into your veins nose and 299 00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:58,715 Speaker 1: wrecked them. Then he admitted that last year he drank 300 00:20:58,955 --> 00:21:02,595 Speaker 1: Ayahuaska tea, which is full of a hallucinogenic schedule one 301 00:21:02,675 --> 00:21:05,355 Speaker 1: drug called d MT. Then he's had the tea. Allowed 302 00:21:05,435 --> 00:21:09,155 Speaker 1: him to quote see how to Unconditionally Love Myself, and 303 00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:12,435 Speaker 1: it was the reason he quote, felt myself merge with 304 00:21:12,555 --> 00:21:17,755 Speaker 1: the ocean. You civilians may not be familiar with that term, 305 00:21:18,075 --> 00:21:23,035 Speaker 1: felt myself merge with the ocean. You civilians may call 306 00:21:23,155 --> 00:21:27,995 Speaker 1: that drowning. Anyway, Rogers gets done dragging me onto the 307 00:21:28,075 --> 00:21:31,435 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan three hour Torture Experience, which I've never actually 308 00:21:31,435 --> 00:21:34,955 Speaker 1: heard in its entirety, because well, I have a job, 309 00:21:35,315 --> 00:21:37,115 Speaker 1: and now Joe Rogan, who had to look up to 310 00:21:37,155 --> 00:21:38,875 Speaker 1: confirm he was the same guy who was on that 311 00:21:38,875 --> 00:21:42,195 Speaker 1: funny Phil Hartman Dave Foley sitcom news radio, and they 312 00:21:42,235 --> 00:21:44,195 Speaker 1: put him on there because if a show is always 313 00:21:44,235 --> 00:21:46,875 Speaker 1: funny for the whole half hour, it exhausts you. So 314 00:21:46,915 --> 00:21:48,995 Speaker 1: you need to have one guy who is a break 315 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:52,235 Speaker 1: from being entertained. So they put this Rogan guy on. 316 00:21:52,635 --> 00:21:56,155 Speaker 1: Now he starts talking about me. This clip is used 317 00:21:56,155 --> 00:21:59,355 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use here is courtesy of the Joe Rogan 318 00:21:59,515 --> 00:22:10,275 Speaker 1: three hour Torture Experience. That Now I put that through 319 00:22:10,515 --> 00:22:14,195 Speaker 1: Google translating. It came out that guy Rogan said, referring 320 00:22:14,235 --> 00:22:17,955 Speaker 1: to me is the gift that keeps giving. Rogan added, 321 00:22:18,475 --> 00:22:29,755 Speaker 1: now I'm told that translates as again it's about me. 322 00:22:29,915 --> 00:22:32,955 Speaker 1: Quote he is effing hilarious, although he didn't say effing, 323 00:22:32,995 --> 00:22:36,715 Speaker 1: apparently unintentionally hilarious, like he's a character in a movie. 324 00:22:37,155 --> 00:22:39,755 Speaker 1: I have time for one one one more quote from 325 00:22:39,795 --> 00:22:47,515 Speaker 1: from Joe Rogan. I again my thanks to Google Translate 326 00:22:47,635 --> 00:22:50,635 Speaker 1: quote that means I love it. I hope he keeps talking. 327 00:22:51,155 --> 00:22:53,155 Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe. I hope you keep talking to or 328 00:22:53,195 --> 00:22:57,035 Speaker 1: whatever that sound is coming out of your mouth. But sincerely, 329 00:22:57,555 --> 00:23:00,635 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you, Joe Rogan, and for Aaron Rodgers too, 330 00:23:00,715 --> 00:23:04,235 Speaker 1: to get over your fear of that tiny little vaccination needle. 331 00:23:04,275 --> 00:23:07,155 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's an honorable thing to go 332 00:23:07,235 --> 00:23:10,755 Speaker 1: out and spend three hours every day confessing to the world, 333 00:23:10,795 --> 00:23:14,595 Speaker 1: admitting to everybody that you're willing to risk your life 334 00:23:14,595 --> 00:23:17,235 Speaker 1: and the lives of others by not taking a simple 335 00:23:17,355 --> 00:23:21,155 Speaker 1: shot like you do for the flu or at the dentist's. 336 00:23:21,715 --> 00:23:23,875 Speaker 1: I mean, there are brave people out there, like the 337 00:23:23,955 --> 00:23:27,155 Speaker 1: nurses and doctors who treated people with COVID nineteen before 338 00:23:27,155 --> 00:23:30,195 Speaker 1: we had the vaccine. But to me, they're just well, 339 00:23:30,235 --> 00:23:34,595 Speaker 1: they're just you knows, compared to the great Joe Rogan 340 00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:38,155 Speaker 1: and the wonderful Aaron Rodgers, who will step in front 341 00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:42,075 Speaker 1: of microphones and lie through their teeth and try to 342 00:23:42,195 --> 00:23:47,155 Speaker 1: push bull crap fake cures and support bull crap fascist 343 00:23:47,235 --> 00:23:51,635 Speaker 1: politicians and do it again and again and make millions 344 00:23:51,715 --> 00:23:55,595 Speaker 1: off of it, and alienate all of their fans and supporters, 345 00:23:55,835 --> 00:24:00,995 Speaker 1: and just tacitly address the fact that they are afraid, scared, 346 00:24:02,075 --> 00:24:07,755 Speaker 1: terrified of a one inch low long, five one teven 347 00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:15,515 Speaker 1: of an inch thick needle. Only real men like Joe 348 00:24:15,595 --> 00:24:20,515 Speaker 1: Rogan and Aaron Rodgers can admit in public that they 349 00:24:20,995 --> 00:24:40,675 Speaker 1: are afraid of physical pain. Bravo, gentlemen. This is how 350 00:24:40,675 --> 00:24:44,915 Speaker 1: it started with O'Reilly right still ahead the night Diana 351 00:24:44,995 --> 00:24:47,835 Speaker 1: died first, the daily roundup of the miscreants, morons and 352 00:24:47,875 --> 00:24:53,435 Speaker 1: dunning Krueger effect specimens who constitute today's worst persons in 353 00:24:53,475 --> 00:24:58,435 Speaker 1: the world, The Bronze me. I managed to fix this 354 00:24:58,515 --> 00:25:01,195 Speaker 1: in the time stamps in the description for yesterday's show, 355 00:25:01,195 --> 00:25:03,355 Speaker 1: but it was too late to fix the actual error. 356 00:25:03,995 --> 00:25:09,235 Speaker 1: I called rain Brocko Elaine. I don't have an explanation 357 00:25:09,315 --> 00:25:12,635 Speaker 1: for this. I really do know her, as I've said, 358 00:25:12,635 --> 00:25:15,075 Speaker 1: we we've written on the same subway together, both of 359 00:25:15,155 --> 00:25:18,635 Speaker 1: us standing and and you know I also pushed the 360 00:25:18,635 --> 00:25:21,835 Speaker 1: wrong buttons loading Monday's podcast So if you were wondering 361 00:25:21,835 --> 00:25:25,995 Speaker 1: why it wasn't there until like nine eastern, me I 362 00:25:26,075 --> 00:25:28,115 Speaker 1: screwed it up. Of course if I screwed it up 363 00:25:28,155 --> 00:25:30,875 Speaker 1: today again with this episode, at least at least you 364 00:25:30,875 --> 00:25:35,235 Speaker 1: don't know it, do you. Our runner up, Nicki Haley, 365 00:25:35,275 --> 00:25:39,195 Speaker 1: the former completely lost un ambassador, got outed by somebody. 366 00:25:39,195 --> 00:25:42,435 Speaker 1: A list of donors to her dark money groups, Stand 367 00:25:42,435 --> 00:25:47,115 Speaker 1: for America, Inc. Has been published by Politico. Usual suspects 368 00:25:47,155 --> 00:25:51,075 Speaker 1: including casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who is dead but who's 369 00:25:51,075 --> 00:25:53,835 Speaker 1: still donating trying to ruin the country. Also the co 370 00:25:53,955 --> 00:25:57,035 Speaker 1: founder of Home Depot, and the Ricketts family and the 371 00:25:57,075 --> 00:25:59,795 Speaker 1: Glen young Kin family. They made all their money in 372 00:25:59,875 --> 00:26:04,795 Speaker 1: red vests, and most notably New Jersey Health exec that 373 00:26:04,915 --> 00:26:08,875 Speaker 1: Garat Polli, he and his mom gave a million. Political 374 00:26:08,995 --> 00:26:13,395 Speaker 1: also reports quote Garrett Polli gifted Hailey New York Knicks tickets. 375 00:26:13,795 --> 00:26:19,035 Speaker 1: Valued it nearly twenty thousan dollars twenty thousand dollars worth 376 00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:24,595 Speaker 1: the Knicks tickets, So that's what forty tickets. But our winner, 377 00:26:24,795 --> 00:26:29,315 Speaker 1: Mike Lindell, he wants you to know you missed his conference. 378 00:26:29,875 --> 00:26:34,875 Speaker 1: The Moment of Truth, The Moment of Truth summit in Springfield, 379 00:26:34,915 --> 00:26:38,155 Speaker 1: Missouri over the weekend that proved the Trump won and 380 00:26:38,195 --> 00:26:41,995 Speaker 1: you missed it because the search engine censored him. See 381 00:26:42,035 --> 00:26:44,915 Speaker 1: aftermath of one of the most important events in our 382 00:26:44,955 --> 00:26:48,235 Speaker 1: country's history. I will tell you this what I have 383 00:26:48,355 --> 00:26:53,915 Speaker 1: learned since then. This weekend we had Google, Yahoo being 384 00:26:54,515 --> 00:26:58,675 Speaker 1: duck duck. All the search engines worked against us. There. 385 00:26:59,435 --> 00:27:03,475 Speaker 1: Ask Jeeves is the real culprit here, Mike, It's that bastard, 386 00:27:03,755 --> 00:27:08,835 Speaker 1: Ask Jeeves. Lindell says he bought AdWords on all the 387 00:27:08,875 --> 00:27:12,035 Speaker 1: search engines, so if you searched his name or the event, 388 00:27:12,395 --> 00:27:14,915 Speaker 1: his ad would pop up with full instructions on how 389 00:27:14,915 --> 00:27:17,835 Speaker 1: to watch and what to believe. And if you need 390 00:27:17,875 --> 00:27:22,235 Speaker 1: a laugh, listen to Mike's excuse to himself why nobody 391 00:27:22,315 --> 00:27:27,755 Speaker 1: saw his AdWords? Google and all of them took away 392 00:27:28,035 --> 00:27:30,955 Speaker 1: my ability to buy those ads. I expected to come 393 00:27:30,955 --> 00:27:34,035 Speaker 1: in this morning, I'd have two thousand dollars and bills 394 00:27:34,075 --> 00:27:37,595 Speaker 1: from all them AdWords. Everybody talking about it and spreading 395 00:27:37,635 --> 00:27:47,195 Speaker 1: the word less than a hundred dollars. Everybody like little 396 00:27:47,235 --> 00:27:51,755 Speaker 1: hundred dollars everybody. Maybe they use the wrong discount code 397 00:27:51,875 --> 00:27:54,995 Speaker 1: at pillow check out. Mike wasn't a new one this weekend. 398 00:27:55,395 --> 00:28:01,075 Speaker 1: My treason, Mike, why won't people watch this thirty nine 399 00:28:01,155 --> 00:28:06,355 Speaker 1: different time I've set I'd prove election fraud, Lindell Today's 400 00:28:06,355 --> 00:28:25,875 Speaker 1: worst person in the world. Finally to our number one 401 00:28:25,875 --> 00:28:29,195 Speaker 1: story on the countdown and my favorite topic, me and 402 00:28:29,315 --> 00:28:32,195 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell. The date on the 403 00:28:32,235 --> 00:28:37,155 Speaker 1: death certificate was Sunday, August one, but because of the 404 00:28:37,195 --> 00:28:40,515 Speaker 1: time difference, the news was known here very late on 405 00:28:40,515 --> 00:28:44,915 Speaker 1: the night of Saturday August It was the death of Diana, 406 00:28:45,035 --> 00:28:48,595 Speaker 1: Princess of Wales. And please do not misunderstand me. I'm 407 00:28:48,635 --> 00:28:52,155 Speaker 1: not equating anything that happened to me around that time 408 00:28:52,635 --> 00:28:55,515 Speaker 1: with what happened to her, or what happened to those 409 00:28:55,555 --> 00:28:58,355 Speaker 1: who loved her, or what happened to those who simply 410 00:28:58,395 --> 00:29:02,275 Speaker 1: admired her from afar. But in retrospect, I can see 411 00:29:02,355 --> 00:29:05,955 Speaker 1: that Saturday night as a demarcation point in the history 412 00:29:05,995 --> 00:29:09,995 Speaker 1: of news in this country. Three nights earlier, I had 413 00:29:09,995 --> 00:29:12,475 Speaker 1: watched them packed the last of my stuff into the 414 00:29:12,555 --> 00:29:15,395 Speaker 1: van at my home in Southington, Connecticut, where I had 415 00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:17,195 Speaker 1: lived for five and a half years while I did 416 00:29:17,435 --> 00:29:21,275 Speaker 1: ESPN Sports Center. Great show, much of it, great fun, 417 00:29:21,595 --> 00:29:25,355 Speaker 1: a great partner, great house, four bedrooms, three thousand square feet, 418 00:29:25,395 --> 00:29:31,955 Speaker 1: heated swimming pool, house, fact system dollars. All that was great, 419 00:29:32,395 --> 00:29:35,355 Speaker 1: not really a great life. I was on my way 420 00:29:35,355 --> 00:29:39,155 Speaker 1: to a new life at MSNBC. Thursday was a photo 421 00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:42,875 Speaker 1: shoot for Esquire. They dressed me up like Austin Powers. 422 00:29:43,315 --> 00:29:45,675 Speaker 1: I didn't get it then, I don't get it now. 423 00:29:46,595 --> 00:29:48,675 Speaker 1: Then an interview with TV Guide, and then suddenly an 424 00:29:48,675 --> 00:29:51,435 Speaker 1: invitation from my old friend and new boss, Phil Griffin 425 00:29:51,715 --> 00:29:54,035 Speaker 1: to come join him and his family for a long 426 00:29:54,075 --> 00:29:57,355 Speaker 1: weekend in the Hampton's. I had never been there. It 427 00:29:57,435 --> 00:29:59,915 Speaker 1: was not the kind of thing I did. It was 428 00:29:59,995 --> 00:30:02,955 Speaker 1: long Island. I was from Westchester. But they were willing 429 00:30:02,995 --> 00:30:07,835 Speaker 1: to pay, and it was spectacular, even though my accommodations 430 00:30:07,875 --> 00:30:11,595 Speaker 1: consisted of a converted garage, the bed and breakfast part 431 00:30:11,635 --> 00:30:13,355 Speaker 1: of the home of a woman who had had her 432 00:30:13,355 --> 00:30:16,475 Speaker 1: own show on Channel two in New York forty three 433 00:30:16,555 --> 00:30:20,475 Speaker 1: years previously, and whose walls were filled with mementos from it. 434 00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:23,955 Speaker 1: I thought, briefly, and with a shutter, that's what my 435 00:30:24,075 --> 00:30:27,075 Speaker 1: walls are gonna look like in if I live that long. 436 00:30:28,275 --> 00:30:30,435 Speaker 1: It's not yet, and I haven't lived that long, but 437 00:30:30,475 --> 00:30:32,315 Speaker 1: I'm happy to tell you. There are dozens of photos 438 00:30:32,355 --> 00:30:34,155 Speaker 1: and art covering my walls, and only one of them 439 00:30:34,155 --> 00:30:36,115 Speaker 1: is a memento of an old TV show I did. 440 00:30:36,755 --> 00:30:41,715 Speaker 1: But the point was and is taken anyway. A nice 441 00:30:41,755 --> 00:30:44,475 Speaker 1: meal with the Griffins at their Hampton's full house rental 442 00:30:44,515 --> 00:30:49,115 Speaker 1: on Friday, warm day, spent at a pristine beach on Saturday, 443 00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:52,835 Speaker 1: pronounced good with kids by Phil's wife, and then we 444 00:30:52,915 --> 00:30:58,075 Speaker 1: went across the bay to the Hampton's home of Jeff Zucker, 445 00:30:58,475 --> 00:31:00,275 Speaker 1: then the head of the Today Show and the de 446 00:31:00,395 --> 00:31:04,395 Speaker 1: facto operational head of all of NBC News. We dined 447 00:31:04,475 --> 00:31:08,635 Speaker 1: on his balcony overlooking the water. We watched the fireworks 448 00:31:08,675 --> 00:31:11,835 Speaker 1: overlooking the water, and we were just having a nightcap 449 00:31:11,915 --> 00:31:16,235 Speaker 1: on this vast lawn of his overlooking the water. My 450 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:19,635 Speaker 1: memory tells me the lawn was approximately the size of 451 00:31:19,675 --> 00:31:22,835 Speaker 1: the field at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles. And there 452 00:31:22,835 --> 00:31:27,275 Speaker 1: were huge lights hanging off the house, which seemed nearly 453 00:31:27,275 --> 00:31:30,475 Speaker 1: as strong as the lights at Dodger Stadium. And then 454 00:31:30,515 --> 00:31:36,515 Speaker 1: suddenly everybody's phone rang Summer ended in three seconds. There 455 00:31:36,555 --> 00:31:39,475 Speaker 1: were still pages in those days. Those went off too. 456 00:31:39,715 --> 00:31:43,755 Speaker 1: You could even hear phones ringing in the distance. Creating 457 00:31:43,795 --> 00:31:48,755 Speaker 1: something akin to a strange buzzing concert. My God, Zucker shouted, 458 00:31:48,795 --> 00:31:52,955 Speaker 1: Princess Die is dead. Now. He and Phil Griffin began 459 00:31:53,035 --> 00:31:56,515 Speaker 1: to pace across that giant lawn. Another phone rang, and 460 00:31:56,595 --> 00:32:00,515 Speaker 1: Zucker now had one pinned to each ear Standing some 461 00:32:00,595 --> 00:32:03,435 Speaker 1: distance away with Phil Griffin's wife, I noticed how quickly 462 00:32:03,715 --> 00:32:07,755 Speaker 1: Griffin and Zuker syncd up. They were walking towards each other, 463 00:32:08,075 --> 00:32:11,195 Speaker 1: crossing each other's paths, then walking side by side, and 464 00:32:11,235 --> 00:32:14,115 Speaker 1: then veering off in opposite directions, as if there had 465 00:32:14,115 --> 00:32:20,075 Speaker 1: been a choreographer somewhere. Phil's wife and I were equally disgusted, 466 00:32:20,195 --> 00:32:22,635 Speaker 1: not so much at her husband and Zooker, but at 467 00:32:22,675 --> 00:32:26,875 Speaker 1: the circumstances of Diana's death. Forty eight hours earlier, the 468 00:32:26,955 --> 00:32:29,675 Speaker 1: interviewer from TV Guide had actually asked me what my 469 00:32:29,755 --> 00:32:34,635 Speaker 1: first questions would be for my hypothetical guests, Nelson Mandela 470 00:32:34,955 --> 00:32:40,355 Speaker 1: and Sean Penn. My abstract concepts of the news my 471 00:32:40,475 --> 00:32:44,395 Speaker 1: new career were about news I watched or listened to, 472 00:32:44,755 --> 00:32:49,075 Speaker 1: like PBS or NPR, the all news radio stations in 473 00:32:49,115 --> 00:32:52,115 Speaker 1: New York or Washington, when the atmospheric conditions were right 474 00:32:52,155 --> 00:32:56,595 Speaker 1: in Bristol, Connecticut, and my favorite news related show British 475 00:32:56,675 --> 00:33:01,435 Speaker 1: Prime Minister's Question Time. This was not what I heard 476 00:33:01,475 --> 00:33:03,955 Speaker 1: Phil Griffin and Jeff Zucker arranging in the wake of 477 00:33:03,995 --> 00:33:08,035 Speaker 1: Diana's dead, throwing out large offers to self announced royal 478 00:33:08,155 --> 00:33:12,275 Speaker 1: experts and accident analysts and people who knew doughty Fayette 479 00:33:12,675 --> 00:33:16,155 Speaker 1: and even some of the photographers in the cars chasing 480 00:33:16,155 --> 00:33:19,835 Speaker 1: Diana's into the tunnel when it crashed, offering them large 481 00:33:19,835 --> 00:33:23,155 Speaker 1: sums of money to make themselves available exclusively to MSNBC 482 00:33:23,795 --> 00:33:27,955 Speaker 1: for the duration, and booking whole planes full of reservations 483 00:33:28,315 --> 00:33:34,915 Speaker 1: to send everybody from the Today Show to the funeral. Now, look, 484 00:33:34,995 --> 00:33:37,715 Speaker 1: I was thirty seven years old then I already understood 485 00:33:37,715 --> 00:33:41,955 Speaker 1: these were the necessary logistical moves of smart executives. Sad 486 00:33:41,995 --> 00:33:44,435 Speaker 1: and terrible things happened, and people still had to go 487 00:33:44,475 --> 00:33:48,835 Speaker 1: on and cover them. But there was something exceptionally callous 488 00:33:48,955 --> 00:33:52,515 Speaker 1: and cold about the choreograph dance I was watching as 489 00:33:52,555 --> 00:33:55,555 Speaker 1: I said to Phil's wife, the tabloid media has been 490 00:33:55,635 --> 00:33:59,515 Speaker 1: chasing celebrities for years, and tonight they finally got one. 491 00:34:00,115 --> 00:34:03,435 Speaker 1: She nodded, but punched me in the shoulder and corrected me, 492 00:34:04,115 --> 00:34:09,995 Speaker 1: we finally got one. You are part of we now well. 493 00:34:10,035 --> 00:34:12,235 Speaker 1: That in turn made me think about quitting on the spot. 494 00:34:12,995 --> 00:34:14,915 Speaker 1: My agent was on the West coast. It was not 495 00:34:15,035 --> 00:34:17,475 Speaker 1: that late there, and soon I joined Griffin and Zooker. 496 00:34:17,835 --> 00:34:21,035 Speaker 1: Zucker was on his third different phone by then, pacing 497 00:34:21,075 --> 00:34:23,635 Speaker 1: on that lovely lawn while telling my agent that maybe 498 00:34:23,635 --> 00:34:26,675 Speaker 1: we should take the ABC boss Bob Iger up on 499 00:34:26,795 --> 00:34:28,275 Speaker 1: his offer. He said, if I ever wanted to go 500 00:34:28,315 --> 00:34:30,475 Speaker 1: back to ESPN, I should just call. What do you think? 501 00:34:30,515 --> 00:34:34,635 Speaker 1: I asked my agent too soon. The next week was 502 00:34:34,755 --> 00:34:38,715 Speaker 1: all Diana leading up to the funeral overnight Friday, anchored 503 00:34:38,715 --> 00:34:43,275 Speaker 1: on NBC and MSNBC I think by Katie Curriic who 504 00:34:43,275 --> 00:34:46,235 Speaker 1: actually told the audience that some random British woman was 505 00:34:46,275 --> 00:34:51,435 Speaker 1: in fact the model Cindy Crawford. She wasn't Cindy Crawford. 506 00:34:51,995 --> 00:34:55,275 Speaker 1: This passing, forgotten, trivial mistake seemed to me to be 507 00:34:55,355 --> 00:34:58,795 Speaker 1: emblematic of what Diana's death had done in an instant 508 00:34:59,035 --> 00:35:03,075 Speaker 1: to the business I was just getting into. Suddenly, the 509 00:35:03,155 --> 00:35:06,115 Speaker 1: last few years of television new had clarified themselves, and 510 00:35:06,155 --> 00:35:08,995 Speaker 1: a timeline had emerged in my mind. I had gone 511 00:35:09,035 --> 00:35:11,515 Speaker 1: to work for CNN at the start of its second year. 512 00:35:12,675 --> 00:35:16,115 Speaker 1: One yes, we were already in color. We used to 513 00:35:16,155 --> 00:35:19,955 Speaker 1: have a weather report, a sportscast, a business update, and 514 00:35:20,075 --> 00:35:25,915 Speaker 1: a science and medicine story every hour. But by CNN 515 00:35:25,955 --> 00:35:29,475 Speaker 1: and everybody else had learned just find one story and 516 00:35:29,635 --> 00:35:33,275 Speaker 1: pound it into the ground seven if you can, and 517 00:35:33,395 --> 00:35:35,715 Speaker 1: dress it up so that the viewer does not feel 518 00:35:35,795 --> 00:35:40,155 Speaker 1: dirty for having watched it. That first story in was 519 00:35:40,195 --> 00:35:42,595 Speaker 1: the O. J. Simpson trial. And while it was nominally 520 00:35:42,675 --> 00:35:46,835 Speaker 1: a genuinely important story about a huge public figure, people 521 00:35:46,915 --> 00:35:51,035 Speaker 1: forget that a huge public victory figure sportscaster and actor 522 00:35:51,475 --> 00:35:55,635 Speaker 1: murdering his wife. That's not what they covered at the O. J. 523 00:35:55,755 --> 00:36:01,555 Speaker 1: Simpson trial. They were covering every salacious detail. They were 524 00:36:01,595 --> 00:36:06,515 Speaker 1: covering literally every blood stain. They were covering interracial marriage. 525 00:36:06,915 --> 00:36:10,915 Speaker 1: They were pitting whites against blacks. They were sometimes I 526 00:36:10,955 --> 00:36:15,395 Speaker 1: saw it happen, making up bombshell stories. And all the 527 00:36:15,435 --> 00:36:18,595 Speaker 1: people now running MSNBC, which I was joining in its 528 00:36:18,595 --> 00:36:21,715 Speaker 1: second year, were those who had covered themselves in glory 529 00:36:22,195 --> 00:36:25,435 Speaker 1: or covered themselves in something at the O J. Trial. 530 00:36:26,075 --> 00:36:31,715 Speaker 1: It is not coincidental that one media organization was discussed 531 00:36:31,755 --> 00:36:35,475 Speaker 1: by the judge Lance Edo for doing a fair job 532 00:36:35,515 --> 00:36:39,275 Speaker 1: of covering the O. J. Simpson trial. That organization was 533 00:36:40,755 --> 00:36:45,475 Speaker 1: ESPN Sports Center. Anyway, television news has never been the same. 534 00:36:45,755 --> 00:36:49,235 Speaker 1: There was some argument for seven coverage of the Simpson 535 00:36:49,315 --> 00:36:53,115 Speaker 1: trial because it was a daily thing. Diana was dead, 536 00:36:53,235 --> 00:36:55,035 Speaker 1: and for a month it was treated as if it 537 00:36:55,075 --> 00:36:59,355 Speaker 1: had happened an hour earlier. Cable news by this point CNN, 538 00:36:59,355 --> 00:37:03,795 Speaker 1: CNN Headline, Fox and MSNBC now began to look for 539 00:37:04,715 --> 00:37:08,955 Speaker 1: seven stories, or in their absence to create them. The 540 00:37:09,035 --> 00:37:12,355 Speaker 1: death of the Colorado little Girl, John ben at Ramsey, 541 00:37:12,395 --> 00:37:16,755 Speaker 1: every missing white woman in America, even the Clinton Lewinsky story. 542 00:37:16,795 --> 00:37:19,355 Speaker 1: I often did two live shows a night about the 543 00:37:19,355 --> 00:37:22,555 Speaker 1: Clinton Lewinsky story, even when there hadn't been any actual 544 00:37:22,595 --> 00:37:26,595 Speaker 1: news in a week or ten days. If something happened, 545 00:37:27,075 --> 00:37:30,675 Speaker 1: if some tidbit was reported by the Washington Post when 546 00:37:30,715 --> 00:37:33,875 Speaker 1: all the news sites updated for the only time all 547 00:37:33,995 --> 00:37:37,515 Speaker 1: day at eleven PM Eastern, Yes, that's how computers worked 548 00:37:37,555 --> 00:37:40,395 Speaker 1: back then. We might stay on for two or three 549 00:37:40,515 --> 00:37:43,995 Speaker 1: extra hours to discuss this one sentence in the revised 550 00:37:44,075 --> 00:37:49,435 Speaker 1: Washington Post story, again and again and again. We retrained 551 00:37:49,635 --> 00:37:52,995 Speaker 1: TV audiences to fixate on one story at a time, 552 00:37:53,475 --> 00:37:57,115 Speaker 1: especially if that story involved somebody famous that in turn 553 00:37:57,235 --> 00:38:00,995 Speaker 1: magnified the celebrity element of all of American life. It 554 00:38:01,075 --> 00:38:04,035 Speaker 1: explains in part everything that has happened since Diana died, 555 00:38:04,075 --> 00:38:06,835 Speaker 1: from the Clinton story to the lionization of the generals 556 00:38:06,875 --> 00:38:09,675 Speaker 1: after nine eleven, through the rise of Barack Obama, and 557 00:38:09,795 --> 00:38:13,995 Speaker 1: of course the election of Trump. I did not ultimately 558 00:38:14,155 --> 00:38:16,635 Speaker 1: quit my new MSNBC show a month before it was 559 00:38:16,715 --> 00:38:18,995 Speaker 1: to premiere. The next morning, I took a bus back 560 00:38:19,035 --> 00:38:21,075 Speaker 1: to New York and bowed too, as I put it 561 00:38:21,075 --> 00:38:24,475 Speaker 1: in my diary, do a show that would expose tabloidism 562 00:38:24,515 --> 00:38:27,235 Speaker 1: and be upright at whatever cost, to a tone that 563 00:38:27,275 --> 00:38:30,635 Speaker 1: I should be involved, however distantly, in a business that could, 564 00:38:30,635 --> 00:38:33,675 Speaker 1: in essence kill three people, including the most beloved woman 565 00:38:33,715 --> 00:38:38,355 Speaker 1: in the world. Nice thought didn't happen. We did the 566 00:38:38,355 --> 00:38:42,355 Speaker 1: first show a month later, October one. Phil Griffin was 567 00:38:42,395 --> 00:38:45,595 Speaker 1: the producer. Half the time was consumed by a roundtable 568 00:38:45,675 --> 00:38:49,075 Speaker 1: of four celebrity journalists and gossips. When I tried to 569 00:38:49,155 --> 00:38:51,995 Speaker 1: draw them out on the media's responsibility to the people 570 00:38:52,075 --> 00:38:55,635 Speaker 1: in these stories, a voice talked to me through my earpiece. 571 00:38:56,115 --> 00:38:59,195 Speaker 1: It was Phil Griffin, and he was shouting forget that 572 00:38:59,955 --> 00:39:10,875 Speaker 1: asked them who killed John ben a Ramsey. I've done 573 00:39:10,875 --> 00:39:12,475 Speaker 1: all the damage I can do here. This is where 574 00:39:12,515 --> 00:39:15,835 Speaker 1: I ask you to rate and review the podcasts. Tell 575 00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:20,795 Speaker 1: them they're great. Fe the Countdown theme from Beethoven's Ninth arranged, 576 00:39:20,835 --> 00:39:23,835 Speaker 1: produced and performed by Countdown Musical directors Brian Ray and 577 00:39:23,915 --> 00:39:28,835 Speaker 1: John Philip Chanelle. All orchestration and keyboards by John Philip Chanelle. 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A new episode tomorrow Till then, 587 00:40:03,395 --> 00:40:07,195 Speaker 1: I'm Keith Olderman. Good Morning, good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. 588 00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:23,475 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Alderman is a production of I Heart Radio. 589 00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:26,675 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit the I 590 00:40:26,795 --> 00:40:31,155 Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.