WEBVTT - Pearls: Second Best Thing About Oysters

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles W Chuck Bryant. Jerry's here kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I think she went to go open the door for

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<v Speaker 1>a delivery person. Other than that, this is stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>should know. Hey, let's hope it's not the land Shark

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<v Speaker 1>nine seventies Saturday Night Live fame. That's good stuff. Man. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I would need to shout out a

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<v Speaker 1>listener because this was a genuine listener suggestion. Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>get lots of suggestions and sometimes we take them. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, I have one in the pipeline right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I'm I'm just gonna let it be

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<v Speaker 1>suspenseful until then. Okay, whose idea I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>of which one might be for you, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>what's in your pipeline, buddy, Okay, we already did the animals. One.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do that scary that scary hole. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Jamie Boo, her nice name, and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>let Jamie know. So hopefully Jamie, here's this and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>just be a big surprise. I know there's a certain

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<v Speaker 1>listener out there who is hoping this would be possums.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's a little hint. If you suggest something too much,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a game where we will never do it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can ask the guy who um continuously asked for

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawaiian Overthrow episode. It's one of those we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did that didn't mean we did do it, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that you want really bad

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you get it you regret over having

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<v Speaker 1>asked for it. Yeah, just too much build up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You just gotta let things come as they come, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>chill out, look in your pipeline. I predict that we forgotten.

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<v Speaker 1>We normally would have gotten to possums by seven easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Never No, never, Right now we ut. But today we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about pearls, right, yeah, pearls and the big thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to Jamie boo Her because this is one I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>we hadn't done. It's very stuff. You should know. He

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of sitting out there at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean waiting for us to discover it, like a

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<v Speaker 1>pearl diver, which weirdly was not even in this article. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was weird too. I did a little

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<v Speaker 1>research on it, so we'll we'll hit that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, same. I read that Steinbeck book. What was

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<v Speaker 1>it called The Pearl Diver's Daughter. That was the original title,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just shortened it and he just said, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just call it the Pearl. Okay, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>was a Steinbeck book. I knew about Grapes of Wrath

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<v Speaker 1>as I lay dying, mainly because that metal band mm

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<v Speaker 1>HM travels with Charlie Uhson. Man, what's the canary row? One?

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<v Speaker 1>Cannary row of mice and men? Man? Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen that? With one? The one with Gary Sinice and

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<v Speaker 1>um John Malkovich is Lenny No. I saw the previous

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<v Speaker 1>version when I was a kid that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it was the Quaide the big boy Quade. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be perfect for that, Randy um And I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember who Lenny was. I think I saw pieces of Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you went of the of the Malkovitch one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you meant Randy Quaide was Lenny. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine him as anybody else. Maybe Curly, but now I

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<v Speaker 1>think Curly is kind of like a Casey sa Moscow

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<v Speaker 1>esque smaller dude. You know what I mean. Wait, who

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<v Speaker 1>did I say? Did I get it wrong? Who did

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<v Speaker 1>I say? Randy Quaide was? You said you couldn't remember

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<v Speaker 1>who Lenny was. I don't remember the other guy's name,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lenny's the one who was old Yeller at the end, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I should say spoiler alert, right of sure,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't know what that is, just he's

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<v Speaker 1>guys and Eddie. That's all you need to know. So Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start talking about pearls at this point. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? I think let's do it pretty neat, little Jim. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a really good argument, and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it made all over the internet, especially from pearl seller's websites,

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<v Speaker 1>that pearls are far and away the oldest gym people

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<v Speaker 1>have ever used to adorn themselves with. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's true, but it's possible because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>mind gold, you have to stumble upon it. With pearls,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see people just you know, diving for seafood

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<v Speaker 1>and being like, what is this thing? And oh there's

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<v Speaker 1>another one over here, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you've got, you know, these gems that are coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Persian Gulf and being a big deal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's already weird enough that people correct

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<v Speaker 1>an oyster open and said, maybe I should eat that

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting looking blob. I know that's kind of an angel question,

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<v Speaker 1>is like who ate the first oyster? But uh, when

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<v Speaker 1>they saw a little pearl in there? I mean, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, the interior of any We're not any, but

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<v Speaker 1>of many mollusk shells can be beautifully iridescent and very

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<v Speaker 1>attract of to the eye. So I could see why

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<v Speaker 1>somebody might crack a mollusk open and say, hey, that

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<v Speaker 1>this looks interesting. Wonder if that piece of meat is

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<v Speaker 1>taste good? And it does, especially in a nice buttery

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<v Speaker 1>lemon white wine sauce. M hmm. I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>do oysters just separately at some point. But I found

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<v Speaker 1>a little pearl. Turns out it was a blister pearl,

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<v Speaker 1>which means it was we'll get to this, but it

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<v Speaker 1>means it's attached to the shell. But I found a

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<v Speaker 1>little blister pearl one time, and I can't remember if

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<v Speaker 1>it was just dining in a restaurant or whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was from a shell when we were like clamming or something,

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought pearls only came from oysters, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is not true. They can come from just about any mollusk, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But you do make a good point. Any mollusk can

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<v Speaker 1>make a pearl if you if you're very inclusive of

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<v Speaker 1>what forms of pearl because their formed through the same process.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the difference between a true pearl and a non

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<v Speaker 1>true pearl, if you're going to be a purist, is

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<v Speaker 1>the substance that it's made from. And even more mind

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<v Speaker 1>boggling than that, they're made from the same substance. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a different structural arrangement of that same substance that

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<v Speaker 1>produces a true pearl or a non true pearl. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was enough mystery. Let's let's get in okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things that we need to know

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<v Speaker 1>about pearls, and one of the reasons why they've been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for thousands of years they were like the

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<v Speaker 1>great signifier of wealth, is because they're exceedingly rare in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of globally, you'll find a pearl in about

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<v Speaker 1>one and ten thousand mollusks. That's not very many pearls

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<v Speaker 1>hanging around out there. So you can imagine that when

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice pearl was found. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very much treasured um. And every single pearl, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of pearl it is, starts because the little

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<v Speaker 1>mollusk that forms the pearl is irritated. That's right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You've often heard a grain of sand can turn into

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<v Speaker 1>a pearl. That is true. It can be a little

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<v Speaker 1>chunk of the shell. Um. Most times it's a little parasite,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's almost like an allergic reaction takes place inside

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<v Speaker 1>the mollusk and that they mount a defense by coding

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<v Speaker 1>this foreign thing that gets in their shell, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their shell is is ideally sealed up pretty tight, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they like to keep it nice and clean. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But they something gets in there and they go, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>something's in here, shouldn't be. I'm going to coat this

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<v Speaker 1>thing with a substance and we'll get to what that

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<v Speaker 1>is in a second. And that substance basically just builds

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<v Speaker 1>up and eventually it makes a pearl. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be a little blister pearl that's still attached,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, ideally what you're gonna get to is

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<v Speaker 1>a perfectly spherical, lovely little thing that could someday end

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<v Speaker 1>up on a piece of jewelry. Yeah, now we should

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<v Speaker 1>say like that one and ten molas. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you get ten thousand mollisks together on the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>you would find a pearl in one of them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be even rarer than that to find a

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly spherical or even close to spherical pearl, Like those

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<v Speaker 1>are really really rare in nature, right, Um. But that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that makes that pearl, depending on what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mollusk it comes from, if it's a true pearl, the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that they build up to kind of isolate that

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<v Speaker 1>grain of sand or that parasite or whatever, is called

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<v Speaker 1>naker and naker is this combination of um, a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of calcium carbonate called aragonite, and then another substance kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like an organic binder called concleolin. And as different

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<v Speaker 1>layers are put down at a little bit of water,

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<v Speaker 1>slowly by but surely like the layer kind of gets

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and bigger and bigger, and a pearl forms around that. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to remember this, this thing that we prize

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<v Speaker 1>and value and think is one of the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>things in the world, is a Pearl's Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>an allergic reaction to an irritant. That's what it's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It just so happens that we find them gorgeous and

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<v Speaker 1>like to wear them on our foreheads. Forehead, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great place for a pearl. How did you pronounce that

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<v Speaker 1>second word, naker or oh con con conchiolian? Yeah, thrown

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<v Speaker 1>that ellen there. It's very easy to want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get the earth? Yeah? Conkylin uh and naker

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, spelled in a c R E for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who love it when I just randomly

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<v Speaker 1>spell things, um and naker. You know, I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that beautiful iridescence. Um, it's it's mother of pearl. That

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<v Speaker 1>is Naker. So when you look at the inside of

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<v Speaker 1>a of a mollusk, of a shellfish that has that

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful sort of rainbow iridescent look, that is the Naker

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really super strong. Um. And I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>they've been you know, it's it's part of the structural

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<v Speaker 1>integrity of keeping the mollusks strong, right right, Yeah, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that's um, what what we would consider like what

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<v Speaker 1>our bones are made out of. That's what the mollusk's

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<v Speaker 1>hardness is made out of. I think, Yeah, exactly, at

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<v Speaker 1>least the interior part. So then there's the other non

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<v Speaker 1>true pearls. They're called non nacreous pearl because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>made with nacre They're made with a calcareous concretion, which

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<v Speaker 1>again is made from calcium carbonate crystals, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different arrangement of calcium carbonate called calcite, and calcite is

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<v Speaker 1>more stable than aragonite, but it's more fragile, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not the same thing as a pearl. Yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>are the non acreous are I'm sometimes pink or brown. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And they generally come from the Queen conk. We say conk, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we say conch conk. That's what I always said.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also heard people say conch one time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was mispronouncing they were they were dead wrong, okay, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And this conk mollusk, the queen conk is in the

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<v Speaker 1>Caribbean or is it Caribbean because I heard someone say

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Caribbean. Yeah. You have to say it like

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to sing the Billy Ocean song. Yeah, queen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to just leave everybody hanging you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you've never noticed in that song he goes Caribbean queen

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<v Speaker 1>conk in the background. Uh. I do want to recommend

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<v Speaker 1>this story that we're not going to get into here,

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<v Speaker 1>but Olivia, who helped us with this, was kind enough

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<v Speaker 1>to tease us with a story from one about a

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<v Speaker 1>Tai fisherman who found a mellow pearl m e l

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<v Speaker 1>o and that's um one of the other kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>non ne creus uh mollusk pearls, and it was worth

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<v Speaker 1>about three grand. These things are really really rare. They're uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make them in nature, so that's why they're rare,

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<v Speaker 1>and we get to or you can't make them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>by human hands, I should say. Uh. So they're super

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<v Speaker 1>rare and they're very um fragile. Uh and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really expensive. But is there's a really good story

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<v Speaker 1>about this Thai fisherman who found one worth a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money and just go look it up on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet and read about it. But it's it's pretty involved. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, the non acreous pearls are made by

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<v Speaker 1>the mellow mellow sea snail or the queen conk mollusk,

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<v Speaker 1>but the true pearls are typically made by saltwater oysters.

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<v Speaker 1>Or freshwater mussels. Like when you're thinking of a pearl, pearl,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably came from a mussel, possibly from Ohio or Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>of all places, the Tennessee River. That was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most mind blowing things I've ever heard. Or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's saltwater oysters, it might be on the northern coast

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<v Speaker 1>of South America. It might be on the in the Baja,

0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the Gulf of California, off the Baja in Mexico. Um,

0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.520
<v Speaker 1>those are some really good spots for it, too. Or

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<v Speaker 1>it could also be in places in Japan as we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see too. Yeah, and the Tennessee River and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of these other places are some of the some of

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<v Speaker 1>the only places where people still dive for pearls, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>as you'll see, most pearls that we see today are

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<v Speaker 1>made by people, Uh well, people and mollusks, sure in conjunction. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we can talk just for a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about pearl diving. That was how they used to

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<v Speaker 1>find pearls. And if you think, well, I get oysters,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I live in I live near the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get oysters just in my oyster trap a

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<v Speaker 1>few feet down those are almost certainly not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be making pearls. The pearl bearing mollusks are generally very

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<v Speaker 1>very very deep, and these divers it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't know if it was the reason people

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<v Speaker 1>started free diving so deep, but people who were really

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<v Speaker 1>good at free diving so deep, uh, often became pearl

0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.840
<v Speaker 1>divers in you know, free diving, or the people that

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<v Speaker 1>eventually they would get a mask, but they would you know,

0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.720
<v Speaker 1>you just go down there with your lungs and swim

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<v Speaker 1>super super super deep. And that's what the Steinbeck novel

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<v Speaker 1>is about. So so, like I saw that a pearl

0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:03.360
<v Speaker 1>diver might dive down to any feet undred and fifty feet. Yeah,

0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's like fifty meters if you're paying attention, Um, that

0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.400
<v Speaker 1>is extremely deep. That's actually beyond like the recreational scuba

0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.040
<v Speaker 1>divers limits. I think that's like ninety hundred feet. So

0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.400
<v Speaker 1>these people are free diving that deep, and yeah, they're

0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.760
<v Speaker 1>having to hold their breath for many, many minutes, but

0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.120
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty good at it. And the reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>think they have to dive so low and the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why you're not going to find a pearl in an

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<v Speaker 1>oyster along them, the shoreline is because the flow of

0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.240
<v Speaker 1>water has to be below a certain speed or else

0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the nakers just not going to form correctly or at all,

0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.800
<v Speaker 1>from what I can tell, So they're gonna be just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting real still. Yeah, exactly, for sure. Should we take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. Sure, we'll take a break, and we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back and talk a little history, because it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>people have like pearls for a really long time. So Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back and we're talking pearl history and um. From

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<v Speaker 1>what I could tell, for about four thousand years, the

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of pearls came from around the Persian Gulf,

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sea, or the Gulf of Mannar by Sri Lanka.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was just the way it was. If you

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<v Speaker 1>had a pearl before about the nineteen twenties or thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very likely that it came from one of

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<v Speaker 1>those areas. And in about the Middle East or Southeast Asia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were, like you said, they were always prized. Um. Obviously,

0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.320
<v Speaker 1>if you look at a pearl, um, it's a anytime

0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.360
<v Speaker 1>something really that beautiful comes from nature, that's that rare um.

0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.640
<v Speaker 1>It becomes a precious item. And from the very beginning

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<v Speaker 1>in I mean you name it. In most ancient places

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<v Speaker 1>where you could get pearls, they were written about. They

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<v Speaker 1>were prized and warned by the nobility. Maybe nobility definitely

0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.400
<v Speaker 1>kings and queens, maybe sometimes only kings and queens, and

0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.400
<v Speaker 1>not even like lower nobility. They were that rare, but

0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.360
<v Speaker 1>they also kind of hoarded them, like their stories of

0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, ancient queens having like hundreds and hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of pearls. Uh, It's not like they just had like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we found one and the rest, you know, other people

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<v Speaker 1>can wear. Yeah. I think the oldest pearl necklace that

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<v Speaker 1>was found is come comes from about twenty four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years ago or twenty three hundred years ago in a

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<v Speaker 1>place that was called Susa, which we now recognizes Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was in a princess's sarcophagus, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a pearl necklace of two hundred and sixteen pearlstears. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of pearls, especially considering again like just

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<v Speaker 1>any normal pearl is found in one in ten thousand mollusks,

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<v Speaker 1>and this this princess had two hundred and sixteen pearls,

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<v Speaker 1>So she would have been what you would call fabulously

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy at the time. Uh. Uh. Native American cultures prized

0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the pearl as well as you'll see. If you can

0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.399
<v Speaker 1>find them in the Tennessee River, Uh, then you can.

0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.639
<v Speaker 1>There are other places in the Midwest of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States where you can find pearls still today. So they

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<v Speaker 1>love them and use them. I think Mother of Pearl

0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:21.239
<v Speaker 1>has always been used. The ancient Egyptians definitely used it

0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:27.680
<v Speaker 1>as far as BC, even though they got pearls much later. Yeah,

0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.600
<v Speaker 1>apparently it wasn't until they were conquered by the Persian

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Empire about the sixth yes, sixth century BC um that

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<v Speaker 1>they finally got pearls, which does not make sense to me,

0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:43.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know them's the Brakes history. Uh. This cleopatri

0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.960
<v Speaker 1>story is pretty interesting. I think we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>in our Cleopatric episode. I'm pretty sure it sounds awfully familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>It did. As the legend goes, she bet Mark Antony

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<v Speaker 1>that she could present the most expensive dinner ever made,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, all right, let's see what got

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a catch. And there was a catch

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>because supposedly pearl earrings were crushed into powder and dissolved

0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:14.800
<v Speaker 1>into wine, and she went game on. She famously went

0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and then down her pearl shot of vinegar. Yeah, and

0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.520
<v Speaker 1>supposedly he said, no, thank you, No, that's too opulent

0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.399
<v Speaker 1>from waw. Yeah, I can't. I don't know if that

0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.760
<v Speaker 1>would be bad for you or probably just benign. Well,

0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.359
<v Speaker 1>it depends, because there's a lot of cultures over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>as we'll see, that have basically prized pearls for all

0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 1>sorts of medicinal values along the way, Like everybody from

0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the Hindus to the Daoists to um ancient Sanskrit medical

0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:47.199
<v Speaker 1>texts like the Chakara Samhita all basically said, hey, pearls

0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 1>are really good for everything from prolonging youth to curing

0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.040
<v Speaker 1>weak eyes. It's an elixir to restore strength. Like I

0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:59.439
<v Speaker 1>think anytime there's something that's valuable as a thing of beauty,

0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.920
<v Speaker 1>they also just assume that it has some sort of

0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>healthful properties as well, And pearls are definitely in that

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.679
<v Speaker 1>in that um realm. I'm curious if there's anything to

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.679
<v Speaker 1>any of that, if there's been like modern studies on

0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 1>pearl dust. Well, I know they put pearl dust in

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>some skin creams too, and it supposedly adds a youthful

0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.480
<v Speaker 1>glow to your skin. But that's smax to me of

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<v Speaker 1>basically the same thing as Sanskrit medical texts saying it

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.159
<v Speaker 1>restores strength and youthfulness. And you know that because you

0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:35.560
<v Speaker 1>use it right, maybe it's still worth a try. Um.

0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Once the Crusades got going in the medieval era, they

0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.960
<v Speaker 1>started trading with Asia, all these pearls were coming to

0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Europe and again, and once they made their way to Europe,

0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:50.439
<v Speaker 1>they were basically off limits. They're actually sumptuary laws that

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<v Speaker 1>said you can't have them, common people, you can't have

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>anything nice. That's what all these laws are about. Yeah,

0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.760
<v Speaker 1>supposedly it was to to really keep the class delineations

0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.720
<v Speaker 1>in a order, but also it's supposedly to prevent the

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<v Speaker 1>lower classes from engaging in in wanton spending that they

0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.880
<v Speaker 1>couldn't afford, you know, in a like a form of vice,

0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like luxury. Basically, Um, the thing is that we have

0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.160
<v Speaker 1>credit cards right right, It's the opposite of a sumptuary law. Um.

0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, apparently Scotland has really nice pearls. And

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I saw in more than one place that the story

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<v Speaker 1>goes that Caesar actually invaded Britain because he was after

0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>um Uk pearls at the time, although it was in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK. You know what I'm saying. We still get

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>those emails all the time. For sure, we could, like

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:40.520
<v Speaker 1>if you put a gun to our head, we could

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.440
<v Speaker 1>come up with it. But just sometimes on the fly

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to remember. Well. And sometimes when we say

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<v Speaker 1>English or England, we're talking about England. I think the

0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>official right, right, but yeah, exactly, but I think the

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 1>official thing is the United Kingdom of Great Britain in

0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.040
<v Speaker 1>northern Ireland. I think I can hear some people in

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Europe clamping right now. Uh well, speaking of them, uh,

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the colonizers. Of course, once they started making their way

0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>around the world and plundering everything, they obviously took wherever

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>there were pearls, they would take and harvest those pearls

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and send them back to Europe again, whether it was

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Panama or Mexico or places in South America. Wherever they

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.919
<v Speaker 1>went and they had pearls, they were for the right,

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>for the taken, and again they went back to the courts. Generally,

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 1>um men wore pearl ear rings. Apparently in Henry's court,

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<v Speaker 1>um Elizabeth had thousands and thousands of pearls that were

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, a pearl button looks much nicer than

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>a real button or just a pearl adornment, and so

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>let's just use those instead of regular buttons. Yeah. One

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that I found mind blowing was that um that

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.880
<v Speaker 1>her gowns would have thousands of pearls sewn into them,

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and that when you clean the gown you had to

0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you had to take all the pearls off and then

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 1>clean it and then sew all the pearls back onto.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine you know what? I bet if you

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.880
<v Speaker 1>told that story back then and Elizabeth was in the room,

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:13.919
<v Speaker 1>she would say, really, they do that right, probably, And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, off with your head right for telling

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>me that story. I don't like guilt man. That was

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a great Elizabeth the first impression. Thank you, so onward

0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and upward, Chuck. Because in the late late nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>and in particular, a guy named guest Tom Vives became

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<v Speaker 1>the first human being, as far as we know, to

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<v Speaker 1>set up a genuine, large scale commercial oyster farming operation

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:48.159
<v Speaker 1>with the express purpose of producing as many pearls as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good idea in eighteen it is. And because the

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the the um what's the word, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for where something happens and like in ratio for

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<v Speaker 1>warm um the how about okay, I know where you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this, Because pearls are so rare, Vives said,

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to overcome this by just having gobs and

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 1>gobs and gobs of oysters. Um, so that just I'll

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 1>beat the odds. And in fact, he beat the odds

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>big time because he was farming oysters and harvesting anywhere

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>between four to fourteen pearls per one hundred oysters. So

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 1>he was having a four to fourteen percent yield of

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of pearls. Pretty good, right, well, I mean way better

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.639
<v Speaker 1>than what we said to begin with, which is one

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>in ten, right, which is so he was harvesting up

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to fourteen percent of pearls, or harvesting pearls from fourteen

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>percent of his oysters. The worldwide estimate would be harvesting

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 1>pearls from point zero zero zero one percent of oysters

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 1>that you would find. Yeah, and I don't think we

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>said this is in Mexico, And of course these are

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 1>reports that this happened in fourteen percent is the very

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>highest end. It was four to fourteen. But that's even

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>let's say it's four percent. That's still a lot more.

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And the only thing that people can reckon is that

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 1>it was just a place where, uh, they had a

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>lot more pearls, because that can happen. Yeah, the conditions

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>must have just been just perfect right there in the

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Gulf of Mexico. Um. That yeah, so good for guests,

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>tom vvs. But one really important thing to remember about

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Vivez's operation is he was farming them naturally. Again, he

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.360
<v Speaker 1>was overcoming the odds just by sheer numbers of oysters

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>he was raising. But he also figured out some really

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>important stuff too that the better you take care of

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.919
<v Speaker 1>your oysters, the more you protect them from predators, the

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:44.959
<v Speaker 1>more you protect them from disease, the more you scrub

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>them free of barnacles several times a year, the likelier

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.439
<v Speaker 1>they are to produce a really nice pearl. Uh. And

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>so he established some techniques that I believe are still

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of foundational in pearl culturing today. But he did

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>not try to artificially implant or or get um I guess,

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>jump start pearl creation in oysters. He was just letting

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 1>it happen naturally. So he wasn't technically culturing pearls. He

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 1>was just farming oysters for their pearls. Yeah, cultivating, right,

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'd say culturing. No, I mean he would have been cultivating,

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>oh sure, sure, grooming, breeding, um raising, Uh, beating the odds. Uh.

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>If you want to talk about making pearls, culturing pearls,

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of course, you got to look to ancient China. They're

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the first people that kind of started doing that. They

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>put little molds. This is very cool. They put little

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>molds that had different things, but chiefly little Buddha images

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>into muscles freshwater muscles around five CE, and they would

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 1>develop those blister pearls that I talked about that I

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>found one time that are attached to the interior of

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the shell, and it would be in about the same shape.

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not like it produced a perfect little Buddha blister pearl,

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>but looked enough like it to where it was, you know,

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a pretty ingenious thing. Um, they were not, they were

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the blister pearls are called like

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>half pearls or hemispherical. They're not obviously prized and the

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 1>kind that you want to put on a necklace. But

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>it kind of got the ball rolling as far as uh,

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>knowing that we can culture pearls. They would say it

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>either looks like Buddha or Abraham Lincoln guaranteed. So a

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>long time after that, UM, people started like really trying

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to intensively cultivate pearls or culture pearls.

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm confused, but UM. There was a guy named WILLIAMS.

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>Seville Kent who was English, believe it or not, and

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>he was a marine biologist working in Australia. UM, and

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, I really think this guest on

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Vivez guy is is onto something. UM, but I think

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 1>he's he's missing the point. He's just kind of letting

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 1>nature take its course, beating the odds, you could say. UM.

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And instead, Seville Kent wanted to kind of like hasten

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>nature to kind of like increase his chances even further

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>by trying to figure out how to make pearls happen unnaturally,

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And he never got any further than creating

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>blister pearls, which from what I can tell, is the

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>easiest pearl you could possibly make. And he died eight

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and it just he just never cracked that code. But

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>shortly after that, in another part of the world, in Japan,

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>there were some guys who've been working on this independently,

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and they did crack that quote. Finally they did. And

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>we should mention the reason that they wanted to speed

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>up the pearl nous of the world was not only

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>just to obviously make more money if they could control

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>something like that, but in Australia and in Japan, uh,

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>they were, um, these moments were overfished at the time,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>which meant obviously they were under pearled, and so they

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of had like there was a need created for

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>pearls that wasn't being met. So all of a sudden

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 1>they started saying, hey, we can If we can make

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a blister pearl, maybe we can carry this over and

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>make regular real pearls. And in Japan there's the akoya

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>oyster okoya oyster sorrd to say fast and abalone, which

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>is like a big, very expensive kind of seafood. It's

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a sea snail and huh it is, yeah, yeah, what

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>do you think it was? I thought it was more

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>clam like than snail like that. Well, it's called a

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>sea snail, but it looks like a clam. Okay, that's

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>one of those things sort of like never mind, I'm gonna.

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to know, you have to text it to me.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's okay, Well, yeah, I'll text it to you.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Um So, these two things, the Akoya oyster and the

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>abalone uh in Japan and the waters around Japan had

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>very um nice natural pearls being produced again under pearl

0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>because of overfishing. And in eighteen eight he ate there

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>was an oyster farmer who figures very highly in the

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>story name Uh. And this gets a little confusing because

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of names are similar, but his name was

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Kokichi Miki Moto, and he started working with a professor

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>name Kochi Ki is that right? Kakichi Kaikichi uh Mitsukuri Uh.

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>And he was from Tokyo Imperial University, and they started

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>working together trying to get a technique going for initially

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>growing these blistered pearls. And they were successful in that

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>not only could they get that going, but they could

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>actually industrialize it and make it like a really ramp

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>up the process and get a lot of them going. Yeah.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Mickey Moto's aim for for starting to cultivate pearls was

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.479
<v Speaker 1>because he wanted to democratize pearls. He wanted anybody at

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the time to be able to wear a pearl necklace.

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's why he was, you know, he said about

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure this out. And again, like you said,

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the best they could come up with blister pearls, and

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they call them half pearls for a reason because you

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>have to break them off of the shell, that inner shell,

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and so you've ruined one side of it, whereas a

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>true pearl um will form inside the oyster and can

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just be kind of plucked out rather easily, and it's

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole it's a whole pearl that's not attached

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to the shell. So it seems like if you could

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>make a blister pearl, you could make a true pearl,

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and it just was not that easy. UM and neither

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Mickey Moto nor Mitsukuri ever figured it out. Really, it

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>was actually a student of Mitsukuries, a guy named Tokichi Nishikawa,

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>who UM actually came up with the the way to

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>create a genuine pearl through cultivation practices, and the same

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>process is essentially UM used today. Yeah, it's basically what

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>they did was they said, hey, let's take what nature does,

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's like what we have to sit around and

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>wait every ten thousand molesks to see happen, and let's

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>let's just do it ourselves. Let's figure out a way

0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to speed it up and do it by hand. And

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>they did. They would cut out that you know we

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about the naker. They would cut out the part

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of the oyster, which is the mantle that secretes that naker.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>They would artificially put in a little bit of shell. Uh.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Instead of like a grain of sand, they would use.

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they found that a little like round cutting

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of that iridescent shell works best, right. I think they

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>found that muscle shells work best for some reason. But yeah,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.719
<v Speaker 1>they would make them round or spherical, right, and then

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they would put that back into another oyster. I think

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>of the same variety. I don't think they mix and matched.

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.239
<v Speaker 1>And that would basically cause that process to start. They

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>would say something's in me that shouldn't be in me,

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and it would create a little pearl sack has that

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>little seed in the middle, and it started just coating

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it with that substance. Yeah, And so they would surgically

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>implant shell pieces and like a piece of mantle from

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>another oyster, which is kind of mangola esque if you

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>think about it. And they would use little, tiny modified

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>dental tools to create this surgery um and it was

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>really hard to do because you can't open an oyster

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>shell more than two to three centimeters, which is not much,

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>or else it's it's either going to kill them the oyster,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>or it's going to upset it so much that it's

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>going to reject this this implanted nucleus the seed for

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the pearl. So it's really hard to do. And again

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.239
<v Speaker 1>this is still the way that they do this, and

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it turns out, strangely, there was an entirely other guy

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>UH named um Tatsuey miss A who was a carpenter

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and he was working on his own version of the

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>exact same thing, apparently independently at the same time in Japan,

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and he Uh and Nishikawa went to go patent their methods,

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>found that the other one had applied for a patent

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>for the exact same thing, and came to an agreement,

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>which I think is really sweet because had it been

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like Thomas Edison or somebody, that would have been like

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>legal battles and murders of elephants and all that stuff.

0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>These guys just came to an agreement to call this

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>process the Nishikawa method. Right. Uh, some people say that, um,

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>we talked about Seville Kent, who died without having perfected

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the non blistered process. Uh. Some accounts do say that

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>both of these people, which is, you know, basically how

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>they were working independently on the same process, got their

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>process from notes from Seville Kent. But I don't think

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that's been like proven out, so who knows, It's just

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>part of the lore. Well yea at this point. I mean, Plus,

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the Ville Kent never cracked the blister, the blister pearl barrier. Yeah,

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll b BP yeah or b P B B

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>b B blister yeah, the BP B. So Mickey Moto,

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>who just as a refresher was that original oyster farmer,

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>was a really good promoter, really good marketer. UM had

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good operation going. In fact, they still the

0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>company is still around today and they still make pearl

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>jew reach. But they would build these big pearl structures

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>at displays that expo shows. And he would go around

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and talk to like governments and say, hey, this jewelry

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>is like I know, we're making them by hand, but

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's still like a real pearl, Like look at these

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>things and sort of had to overcome the uh, these

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>aren't true pearls argument, Yeah, the diamonique challenge. Yeah, but

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you did overcome it. The thing is is they're just

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>not as valuable, not because they're not real pearls. They

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>are real pearls that are made from the same stuff

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and everything. It's just that humans have intervened and taken

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>happenstance out of the out of the process. Right. The

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>reason that they're not as expensive is because there's so

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>many of them. You can produce them so much more easily.

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>And so Mickey Moto actually did what he set out

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to accomplish, democratized pearls. And now you can get a

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>strand of pearl like a pearl necklace for like a

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks if you want. And they're beautiful, gorgeous pearls

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>that if somebody came up and said which one is

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the natural pearl and which one is the cultivated pearl? Uh,

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you would not be able to tell no, not at all. Uh.

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>They were brought over to America and at a really

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>bad time, just before the Great Depression in nine eight,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>but they hung around and then after the Great Depression,

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>um people started buying pearls and pearl necklaces. And another

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>thing that happened was they started making just straight up

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>imitation pearls and these look great too. And Jackie Kennedy's

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>very famous pearl necklace was not real. It was a

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>gift from her mother. Uh, they were artificial pearls. I

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of times the pearl necklaces that you

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>see um can be artificial. And uh they sell like

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>hotcakes too. Yeah. I looked it up. I could not

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>find for certain what Jackie Kennedy's um pearls were made of.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>But the closest I saw was a guess at glass

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that they were made of glass. Everybody, you know, there's

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>been apparently all kinds of things glass alabaster, and then

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they would put everything from egg white to fish scales

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to snail slimeh to create that. You know, pearl has

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>a certain look. It's not just like a plastic wind

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>looks plastic for a reason, but a good artificial pearl

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>has a little magic to it as well. Do we

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>take a break? I think so, all right, we'll take

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 1>our last break and we'll come back and finish up

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>with what's going on today in the world of pearls.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 1>All right. Uh, we're in modern times now and things

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>are still about the same about the pearls, like genuine

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>pearls that you're going to get our cultured Uh it is.

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>If you'd say I want a pearl necklace and I

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be the pearls found from that are natural pearls,

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>then you got a lot of money laying around and

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you're pretty picky. Uh yeah, yeah, that's yeah. But you

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>can thank Mickeymoto for not having to have to have

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money laying around or to be particularly picky. Um.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 1>And there's a bunch of types of cultured pearls. Uh.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>There's a koya, south Sea, Tahitian and fresh water and

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>depending on the type of mollusk that's used, it's going

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to produce different colored gems. Basically, because I don't know

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>if we said are not. A pearl is considered a

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>gem even though it's not um like a mineral in

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the sense that like a diamond is, but it's still

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it still has a crystalline structure, so I guess it's

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>considered a gem. Plus people just like to wear them

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.479
<v Speaker 1>on their foreheads. As I said, But if you want

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a black pearl you're gonna have to go down to

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Tahiti and get one from the black lip oyster, which

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>is just a yeah, they're cool, and they're not necessarily

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>all black. They can be gray, they can be browned,

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>they can be black, but they'll also they'll also have

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>like kind of iridescent hints of like greens or purples,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>even pink. I saw oh pink pearls, well, pink black pearls,

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>which is uh if you if you're talking about just

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:15.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of the standard traditional classic pearl. Uh. They are

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>produced in Japan and China, and those are those original

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>cultured a koya pearls still to this day. Um. And

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>then I guess you know the fresh water pearls. Those

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>are the ones that come from the Tennessee River, among

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>other places. Uh, fresh water mussels produced them. They are

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>um not as expensive. They come in all kinds of

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>shapes and sizes from lakes and ponds and I guess

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:42.439
<v Speaker 1>rivers if it's the Tennessee River. And uh, they're also

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>little things called like rice pearls that look like what

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you would think look like little grains of rice. Um.

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>They tried to perfect the process of getting them less

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>rice like over the years and found that if they

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>just switched the species of muscle, then they could do

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 1>that and it worked. Yes, And here is a little

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>tipped for you. If you want to impress everyone at

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the country club, you obviously belong to. UM. Next time

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>you see somebody wearing pearls that are not spherical, tell

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>them you love their baroque pearls, because a baroque pearl

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>is anything but around shaped pearl. Yeah. If you look

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>up baroque pearl necklace, it looks almost like a necklace

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of molars. Yeah, weirdly they do. Um, And that's a

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a natural looking pearl. Again, a perfectly spherical, even

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>close to perfectly spherical pearl is really rare in nature. Um.

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And so more often than not, you're going to see

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.919
<v Speaker 1>everything from like blobby misshapen ones that, like you said,

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.399
<v Speaker 1>look like molars, ones that are like teardrop shape. There's

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different cool shapes that that you know,

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it can be produced as natural pearls, and all of

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>those are broke right. UM. It is still kind of

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a rare thing to cultivate successfully, or to culture successfully, UM,

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a pearl old they've gotten the process down pretty good.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>But uh, it takes about ten to eighteen months, and

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>about half of the oysters even survive that nucleation process,

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like you were talking about, because it's really just very

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>very precise and it is very finicky. Uh. And of

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>those half, only about five percent will end up producing

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 1>a high quality pearl. So when you're pearl uh culturing,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say farming, I guess it's farming

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>in a way. Um, you are making most of your

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>profit about from those that five percent of the fifty

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>percent end up becoming high quality pearls. And you can

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 1>still do some stuff with a non high quality, but

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get the big top dollar prices.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>And again that's just from cultured pearls. Again, it just

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of reminds you how how really rare the really

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>nice natural ones are. And you said that it takes

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.760
<v Speaker 1>ten to eighteen months. I saw in some cases they'll

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.720
<v Speaker 1>they'll give the pearl up to four years to develop.

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>And while they're while they're cultivating or cult during the

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the oysters, the pearls in the oysters, um, they will

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>scrub the oysters three times a year protect them from

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>predators and disease. These are like the most well cared

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:14.919
<v Speaker 1>for oysters, which is great, but again they've had some

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 1>other foreign objects surgically implanted in them, and then when

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the pearl is taken out, I don't believe the oyster

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>typically survives that process, which, if you really stop and

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>think about it, is is pretty mean. It's actually a

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>really mean, tortuous process. They're cared for while they're being raised,

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.919
<v Speaker 1>it's true, but they're killed to get the pearl out

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of them. They're just basically a machine to produce a pearl.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Is how the pearl industry views oysters or other mollusks

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that that produce pearls for it, well, hopefully they become

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>dinner and then nope, part of someone's driveway. They definitely

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>do not. They don't need really know and one of

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the I think what Gaston Vivez actually might have come

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>up with this technique if it's not older, but I

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's still in Useton places build harvest the oysters

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>when it's pearl harvesting time, and just to make the

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>process easier, they'll dump the oysters into huge piles. Cover

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the piles so that things can't get to them, like

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>predators or like vultures or whatever. Um, and let the

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>oysters rot, and then the pearls are just easier to

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>retrieve after the fleshy part of the oysters gone. Truly,

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>some of those dudes are eating oysters. Some of them are.

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>And if you how about this, chuck, I've got a little,

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a little fact for you that's going to keep you

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>off the oysters forever. Um, you you don't. If you're

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>eating a raw oyster, you're not dead oyster. Everyone does that.

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>It's really I didn't realize that really. Yeah, No, I'd

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>never really thought about it. But there's there's they're probably dead,

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but if they're dead, they're freshly dead, and they're so

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>freshly dead it's possible that they're not actually dead yet.

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>So you might be eating them live when you eat

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.919
<v Speaker 1>them raw. I hadn't thought about that. It makes me sad. Yeah,

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they once you, I mean you've shucked oysters before, really, no,

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I might have my oysters for me. Well. Part of

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the shucking process involves cutting it loose from its shell

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's attached, and I think that's that's that lifeline. Um, yeah,

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hey, it's just it's a renewable resource. But uh,

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Peter obviously is going to say, now, making pearls is

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>not something people do just because you're you're messing with

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>an animal to get something from it. Yeah, so pet

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 1>is of course going to be against us. Sure, and

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>there is like a moral question about it is morally questionable,

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>but there are some real upsides to it. One is

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>it gives another industry to um to areas that might

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>be subject to over fishing, so that they don't have

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to over fish just to make money. They can raise

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>oysters as well for pearls. Um. The oysters definitely clean

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the water in the area that they filter out all

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>sorts of impurities and problems. UM. So that actually does

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>make the water cleaner and um as long as they're

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>not messing with like the coral reefs or the local

0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 1>ecosystems to to create these farms, and they're doing it

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in a more sustainable manner, it actually is a fairly

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>sustainable industry. It's just again mean to the oysters or

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>other mollusks. Are you off oysters now? I don't know.

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 1>You'll have to ask me when somebody presents me with

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a platter of them and some crackers and and uh,

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>mignon Net, Mignonett. You gotta order that stuff? Uh, you

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>just randomly get presented with platters of oysters? What kind

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of life you live in at the country club when

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I wear my string of molar pearls? Uh? Should we

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>go over kind of quickly a couple of these um

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>expensive famous pearls. Yeah, definitely, so you know, if you

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about super expensive, super huge pearls, Uh,

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>there are a handful that. Um, you know, sometimes they

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 1>look like super large molar Sometimes they look like Olivia

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>described one as looking like a giant white brain. Um,

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>they're they're not very good looking. Um, yet they can

0:44:55.719 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>be really expensive, just as prized collectibles. I think. Um,

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not like I don't think they've discovered a process

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>where they can take a big, large brain looking oyster

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and break it down into a pearl and break it

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>down into like five thousand perfect little pearls, right, No,

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>not that I know of. No, it's more just like

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>they prize it for its weirdness and rarity. Yeah, yeah,

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 1>there's one. I think the biggest one we could find

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>is the seventy five pound pearl of Puerto And the

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 1>thing is, whenever one of these comes out. Everybody's like,

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that's so expensive, it's so valuable. That one was valued

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 1>at a hundred million dollars and it was found by

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a fisherman who kept it under his bed for a

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 1>decade in the Philippines. Now, all of a sudden, he's

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting on a hundred million dollar pearl um or I

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>should say, sleeping over one um. But it's never been sold,

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>so no one knows if it actually is worth that.

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>It's worth whatever somebody will pay for it, basically exactly.

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a very good point. But there is one called

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>La Peregrina, and it is arguably the most famous pearl

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Is an egg shaped pearl. It's been

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>um fashioned into different necklaces and different jewelry. It's appeared

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>in poor tricks of queens, including I believe Elizabeth the

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>First and then a bunch of Spanish queens over the

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>years because it was part of the Spanish Crown jewels.

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.720
<v Speaker 1>And then it finally made its way into a necklace

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that Richard Burton bought for Elizabeth Taylor in nine very

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>famously so in that need, imagine wearing a piece of

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>jewelry that you knew was in a portrait of a

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>queen that was made hundreds several hundred years ago, and

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>now you're wearing it too, Like that's just cool. That's

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>one thing I like about stuff like this, Like a

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 1>pearl is something that can you know, make its way

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 1>through time and history from from person to person. Yeah,

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and part of Hollywood history. I mean, one of the

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 1>great offen on romances in Hollywood history. Some people would

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 1>prize it just for that, from Richard Burton to Elizabeth

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Taylor's neck. And uh, I think we should also mention

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>at least the people like, come on, I don't care

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>about giant Mueller's brain looking things. Guys, what is the

0:46:56.000 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>biggest like pearl pearl, Like the biggest really round owned

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>natural looking pearl. Uh? And I think the biggest one

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>they found is about and it's pretty big if you

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>think about a near spherical pearl um about point seven

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>inches right, um, and that's big. It's thirty three carrots.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>If you know anything about diamonds of thirties, imagine a

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty three caret diamond, but a pearl instead. And I

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's sold for a million dollars in two thousand fourteen,

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>appropriately enough a million buckaroos. Uh, yeah, you've got anything else?

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else. All right, well, Chuck's got nothing else.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I've got nothing else. And since I just said that

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:39.879
<v Speaker 1>out loud, that means it's time for listener mail. Uh.

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna call this do do, which is usually

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>your trumpet. Powell would like, yeah, please do do do do. Oh.

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 1>You went an octave higher. Yeah, very impressive. The stuff

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you should know five k is all set and ready

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>for another year. If you're listening, you don't know what

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 1>this is. The stuff you should know Army on the

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Facebook page, they get together, they plan out a five

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>k race uh slash walk and it's just a very

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>fun community event that happens all over the world. I

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's not like they all meet together in Kansas

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Cooper's house and run from his driveway to

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the nearest grocery store, which is at least five k Uh.

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>They do this at the same time in the spirit

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of all being together. And the dates are October twenty

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>one to October one, so it's a rolling race, Uh

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it is. They took a vote online and the title

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:42.240
<v Speaker 1>of the race this year is the s y five

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>k is ready are you in commemoration of the tenure

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the camera ad that ran. It's probably still

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>running for all I know. It definitely is on some

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>episode somewhere. Um there is an event page if you

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>want to find out more. They're getting all the details

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>worked out still, but I wanted to drop this early.

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Just go to this Stuff you Should Know Army facebook page,

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 1>do a little search for the five K. They probably

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>have something pinned. Uh. There is someone named the listener

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>named Sarah Denny what Moore who is suggested a costume element.

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>If people are into that and they're working out the

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 1>prizes and things, and uh, it's all going. So if

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you're into community and exercise and being a part of

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>something cool, go check it out. Uh. And this, of

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>course was an update from Aaron Mizzell. Aaron Mizell, Aaron,

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which way I've said it in the past,

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying Mozzelle, Mozzelle. It's probably just Mozzell. Aaron's great,

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>She's been around forever. She was a movie crush or

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 1>two and that was still a thing. Yeah, and she's

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a long time member of the Stuff You Should Not Army,

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And maybe even the chair of the Stuff you Should

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Know five K I'm not sure. She's definitely up there. Um.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:51.759
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0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.640
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