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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should Know, a production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: and there's Charles W Chuck Bryant. Jerry's here kind of

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Speaker 1: I think she went to go open the door for

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Speaker 1: a delivery person. Other than that, this is stuff you

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Speaker 1: should know. Hey, let's hope it's not the land Shark

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Speaker 1: nine seventies Saturday Night Live fame. That's good stuff. Man. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what I would need to shout out a

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Speaker 1: listener because this was a genuine listener suggestion. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: get lots of suggestions and sometimes we take them. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I go, I have one in the pipeline right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm I'm just gonna let it be

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Speaker 1: suspenseful until then. Okay, whose idea I'm trying to think

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Speaker 1: of which one might be for you, because I know

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Speaker 1: what's in your pipeline, buddy, Okay, we already did the animals. One.

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Speaker 1: I can do that scary that scary hole. Uh. This

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Speaker 1: is Jamie Boo, her nice name, and I didn't even

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Speaker 1: let Jamie know. So hopefully Jamie, here's this and it'll

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Speaker 1: just be a big surprise. I know there's a certain

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Speaker 1: listener out there who is hoping this would be possums.

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Speaker 1: But here's a little hint. If you suggest something too much,

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Speaker 1: it becomes a game where we will never do it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can ask the guy who um continuously asked for

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Speaker 1: the Hawaiian Overthrow episode. It's one of those we kind

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Speaker 1: of did that didn't mean we did do it, And

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Speaker 1: it's one of those things that you want really bad

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Speaker 1: and then when you get it you regret over having

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Speaker 1: asked for it. Yeah, just too much build up, right,

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Speaker 1: You just gotta let things come as they come, exactly,

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Speaker 1: chill out, look in your pipeline. I predict that we forgotten.

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Speaker 1: We normally would have gotten to possums by seven easily.

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Speaker 1: Never No, never, Right now we ut. But today we're

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Speaker 1: talking about pearls, right, yeah, pearls and the big thanks

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Speaker 1: to Jamie boo Her because this is one I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: we hadn't done. It's very stuff. You should know. He

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Speaker 1: just sort of sitting out there at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the ocean waiting for us to discover it, like a

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Speaker 1: pearl diver, which weirdly was not even in this article. No,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was weird too. I did a little

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Speaker 1: research on it, so we'll we'll hit that in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, same. I read that Steinbeck book. What was

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Speaker 1: it called The Pearl Diver's Daughter. That was the original title,

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Speaker 1: but he just shortened it and he just said, let's

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Speaker 1: just call it the Pearl. Okay, I didn't know that

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Speaker 1: was a Steinbeck book. I knew about Grapes of Wrath

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Speaker 1: as I lay dying, mainly because that metal band mm

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Speaker 1: HM travels with Charlie Uhson. Man, what's the canary row? One?

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Speaker 1: Cannary row of mice and men? Man? Have you ever

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Speaker 1: seen that? With one? The one with Gary Sinice and

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Speaker 1: um John Malkovich is Lenny No. I saw the previous

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Speaker 1: version when I was a kid that I want to

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Speaker 1: say it was the Quaide the big boy Quade. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he'd be perfect for that, Randy um And I can't

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Speaker 1: remember who Lenny was. I think I saw pieces of Oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought you went of the of the Malkovitch one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I thought you meant Randy Quaide was Lenny. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine him as anybody else. Maybe Curly, but now I

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Speaker 1: think Curly is kind of like a Casey sa Moscow

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Speaker 1: esque smaller dude. You know what I mean. Wait, who

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Speaker 1: I say? Randy Quaide was? You said you couldn't remember

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Speaker 1: who Lenny was. I don't remember the other guy's name,

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Speaker 1: but Lenny's the one who was old Yeller at the end, right,

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Speaker 1: I guess I should say spoiler alert, right of sure,

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Speaker 1: But if you don't know what that is, just he's

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Speaker 1: guys and Eddie. That's all you need to know. So Chuck,

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Speaker 1: let's start talking about pearls at this point. What do

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Speaker 1: it made all over the internet, especially from pearl seller's websites,

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Speaker 1: have ever used to adorn themselves with. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I could see people just you know, diving for seafood

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Speaker 1: do oysters just separately at some point. But I found

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Speaker 1: But I thought pearls only came from oysters, and that

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Speaker 1: is not true. They can come from just about any mollusk, right,

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Speaker 1: But you do make a good point. Any mollusk can

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Speaker 1: what forms of pearl because their formed through the same process.

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Speaker 1: Is the difference between a true pearl and a non

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Speaker 1: true pearl, if you're going to be a purist, is

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Speaker 1: the substance that it's made from. And even more mind

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Speaker 1: boggling than that, they're made from the same substance. It's

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Speaker 1: just a different structural arrangement of that same substance that

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that we need to know

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Speaker 1: great signifier of wealth, is because they're exceedingly rare in nature.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of globally, you'll find a pearl in about

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Speaker 1: very much treasured um. And every single pearl, no matter

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Speaker 1: mollusk that forms the pearl is irritated. That's right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: up on a piece of jewelry. Yeah, now we should

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Speaker 1: great place for a pearl. How did you pronounce that

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Speaker 1: And they generally come from the Queen conk. We say conk, right,

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Speaker 1: but you have to just leave everybody hanging you. Well,

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Speaker 1: important stuff too that the better you take care of

421
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: your oysters, the more you protect them from predators, the

422
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: more you protect them from disease, the more you scrub

423
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: them free of barnacles several times a year, the likelier

424
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: they are to produce a really nice pearl. Uh. And

425
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: so he established some techniques that I believe are still

426
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of foundational in pearl culturing today. But he did

427
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: not try to artificially implant or or get um I guess,

428
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: jump start pearl creation in oysters. He was just letting

429
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: it happen naturally. So he wasn't technically culturing pearls. He

430
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: was just farming oysters for their pearls. Yeah, cultivating, right,

431
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: I'd say culturing. No, I mean he would have been cultivating,

432
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: oh sure, sure, grooming, breeding, um raising, Uh, beating the odds. Uh.

433
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about making pearls, culturing pearls,

434
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: of course, you got to look to ancient China. They're

435
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: the first people that kind of started doing that. They

436
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: put little molds. This is very cool. They put little

437
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: molds that had different things, but chiefly little Buddha images

438
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: into muscles freshwater muscles around five CE, and they would

439
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: develop those blister pearls that I talked about that I

440
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: found one time that are attached to the interior of

441
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: the shell, and it would be in about the same shape.

442
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: It's not like it produced a perfect little Buddha blister pearl,

443
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: but looked enough like it to where it was, you know,

444
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: a pretty ingenious thing. Um, they were not, they were

445
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think the blister pearls are called like

446
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: half pearls or hemispherical. They're not obviously prized and the

447
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: kind that you want to put on a necklace. But

448
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: it kind of got the ball rolling as far as uh,

449
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: knowing that we can culture pearls. They would say it

450
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: either looks like Buddha or Abraham Lincoln guaranteed. So a

451
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: long time after that, UM, people started like really trying

452
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: to figure out how to intensively cultivate pearls or culture pearls.

453
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm confused, but UM. There was a guy named WILLIAMS.

454
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: Seville Kent who was English, believe it or not, and

455
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: he was a marine biologist working in Australia. UM, and

456
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I really think this guest on

457
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: Vivez guy is is onto something. UM, but I think

458
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: he's he's missing the point. He's just kind of letting

459
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: nature take its course, beating the odds, you could say. UM.

460
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: And instead, Seville Kent wanted to kind of like hasten

461
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: nature to kind of like increase his chances even further

462
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: by trying to figure out how to make pearls happen unnaturally,

463
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: I guess. And he never got any further than creating

464
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: blister pearls, which from what I can tell, is the

465
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: easiest pearl you could possibly make. And he died eight

466
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: and it just he just never cracked that code. But

467
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: shortly after that, in another part of the world, in Japan,

468
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: there were some guys who've been working on this independently,

469
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: and they did crack that quote. Finally they did. And

470
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: we should mention the reason that they wanted to speed

471
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: up the pearl nous of the world was not only

472
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: just to obviously make more money if they could control

473
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: something like that, but in Australia and in Japan, uh,

474
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: they were, um, these moments were overfished at the time,

475
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: which meant obviously they were under pearled, and so they

476
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of had like there was a need created for

477
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: pearls that wasn't being met. So all of a sudden

478
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: they started saying, hey, we can If we can make

479
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: a blister pearl, maybe we can carry this over and

480
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: make regular real pearls. And in Japan there's the akoya

481
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: oyster okoya oyster sorrd to say fast and abalone, which

482
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: is like a big, very expensive kind of seafood. It's

483
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: a sea snail and huh it is, yeah, yeah, what

484
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: do you think it was? I thought it was more

485
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: clam like than snail like that. Well, it's called a

486
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: sea snail, but it looks like a clam. Okay, that's

487
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: one of those things sort of like never mind, I'm gonna.

488
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: I want to know, you have to text it to me.

489
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's okay, Well, yeah, I'll text it to you.

490
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: Um So, these two things, the Akoya oyster and the

491
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: abalone uh in Japan and the waters around Japan had

492
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: very um nice natural pearls being produced again under pearl

493
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: because of overfishing. And in eighteen eight he ate there

494
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: was an oyster farmer who figures very highly in the

495
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: story name Uh. And this gets a little confusing because

496
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: a lot of names are similar, but his name was

497
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: Kokichi Miki Moto, and he started working with a professor

498
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: name Kochi Ki is that right? Kakichi Kaikichi uh Mitsukuri Uh.

499
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: And he was from Tokyo Imperial University, and they started

500
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: working together trying to get a technique going for initially

501
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: growing these blistered pearls. And they were successful in that

502
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: not only could they get that going, but they could

503
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: actually industrialize it and make it like a really ramp

504
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: up the process and get a lot of them going. Yeah.

505
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: Mickey Moto's aim for for starting to cultivate pearls was

506
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 1: because he wanted to democratize pearls. He wanted anybody at

507
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: the time to be able to wear a pearl necklace.

508
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: And that's why he was, you know, he said about

509
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out. And again, like you said,

510
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: the best they could come up with blister pearls, and

511
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: they call them half pearls for a reason because you

512
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: have to break them off of the shell, that inner shell,

513
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: and so you've ruined one side of it, whereas a

514
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: true pearl um will form inside the oyster and can

515
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: just be kind of plucked out rather easily, and it's

516
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: it's a whole it's a whole pearl that's not attached

517
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: to the shell. So it seems like if you could

518
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: make a blister pearl, you could make a true pearl,

519
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: and it just was not that easy. UM and neither

520
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Mickey Moto nor Mitsukuri ever figured it out. Really, it

521
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: was actually a student of Mitsukuries, a guy named Tokichi Nishikawa,

522
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: who UM actually came up with the the way to

523
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: create a genuine pearl through cultivation practices, and the same

524
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: process is essentially UM used today. Yeah, it's basically what

525
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: they did was they said, hey, let's take what nature does,

526
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: and that's like what we have to sit around and

527
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: wait every ten thousand molesks to see happen, and let's

528
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: let's just do it ourselves. Let's figure out a way

529
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: to speed it up and do it by hand. And

530
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: they did. They would cut out that you know we

531
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: talked about the naker. They would cut out the part

532
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: of the oyster, which is the mantle that secretes that naker.

533
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: They would artificially put in a little bit of shell. Uh.

534
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: Instead of like a grain of sand, they would use.

535
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: I think they found that a little like round cutting

536
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: of that iridescent shell works best, right. I think they

537
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: found that muscle shells work best for some reason. But yeah,

538
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: they would make them round or spherical, right, and then

539
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: they would put that back into another oyster. I think

540
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: of the same variety. I don't think they mix and matched.

541
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 1: And that would basically cause that process to start. They

542
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: would say something's in me that shouldn't be in me,

543
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: and it would create a little pearl sack has that

544
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: little seed in the middle, and it started just coating

545
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: it with that substance. Yeah, And so they would surgically

546
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: implant shell pieces and like a piece of mantle from

547
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: another oyster, which is kind of mangola esque if you

548
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: think about it. And they would use little, tiny modified

549
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: dental tools to create this surgery um and it was

550
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: really hard to do because you can't open an oyster

551
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: shell more than two to three centimeters, which is not much,

552
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: or else it's it's either going to kill them the oyster,

553
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: or it's going to upset it so much that it's

554
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: going to reject this this implanted nucleus the seed for

555
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: the pearl. So it's really hard to do. And again

556
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: this is still the way that they do this, and

557
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: it turns out, strangely, there was an entirely other guy

558
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: UH named um Tatsuey miss A who was a carpenter

559
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: and he was working on his own version of the

560
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: exact same thing, apparently independently at the same time in Japan,

561
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: and he Uh and Nishikawa went to go patent their methods,

562
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: found that the other one had applied for a patent

563
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: for the exact same thing, and came to an agreement,

564
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: which I think is really sweet because had it been

565
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: like Thomas Edison or somebody, that would have been like

566
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: legal battles and murders of elephants and all that stuff.

567
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: These guys just came to an agreement to call this

568
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: process the Nishikawa method. Right. Uh, some people say that, um,

569
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: we talked about Seville Kent, who died without having perfected

570
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: the non blistered process. Uh. Some accounts do say that

571
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: both of these people, which is, you know, basically how

572
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: they were working independently on the same process, got their

573
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: process from notes from Seville Kent. But I don't think

574
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: that's been like proven out, so who knows, It's just

575
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: part of the lore. Well yea at this point. I mean, Plus,

576
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: the Ville Kent never cracked the blister, the blister pearl barrier. Yeah,

577
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: he'll he'll b BP yeah or b P B B

578
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: b B blister yeah, the BP B. So Mickey Moto,

579
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: who just as a refresher was that original oyster farmer,

580
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: was a really good promoter, really good marketer. UM had

581
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: a pretty good operation going. In fact, they still the

582
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: company is still around today and they still make pearl

583
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: jew reach. But they would build these big pearl structures

584
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: at displays that expo shows. And he would go around

585
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: and talk to like governments and say, hey, this jewelry

586
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: is like I know, we're making them by hand, but

587
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: it's still like a real pearl, Like look at these

588
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: things and sort of had to overcome the uh, these

589
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: aren't true pearls argument, Yeah, the diamonique challenge. Yeah, but

590
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: you did overcome it. The thing is is they're just

591
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: not as valuable, not because they're not real pearls. They

592
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: are real pearls that are made from the same stuff

593
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: and everything. It's just that humans have intervened and taken

594
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: happenstance out of the out of the process. Right. The

595
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: reason that they're not as expensive is because there's so

596
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: many of them. You can produce them so much more easily.

597
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: And so Mickey Moto actually did what he set out

598
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: to accomplish, democratized pearls. And now you can get a

599
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: strand of pearl like a pearl necklace for like a

600
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: hundred bucks if you want. And they're beautiful, gorgeous pearls

601
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: that if somebody came up and said which one is

602
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: the natural pearl and which one is the cultivated pearl? Uh,

603
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: you would not be able to tell no, not at all. Uh.

604
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: They were brought over to America and at a really

605
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: bad time, just before the Great Depression in nine eight,

606
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: but they hung around and then after the Great Depression,

607
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: um people started buying pearls and pearl necklaces. And another

608
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: thing that happened was they started making just straight up

609
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: imitation pearls and these look great too. And Jackie Kennedy's

610
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: very famous pearl necklace was not real. It was a

611
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: gift from her mother. Uh, they were artificial pearls. I

612
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of times the pearl necklaces that you

613
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: see um can be artificial. And uh they sell like

614
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: hotcakes too. Yeah. I looked it up. I could not

615
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: find for certain what Jackie Kennedy's um pearls were made of.

616
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: But the closest I saw was a guess at glass

617
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: that they were made of glass. Everybody, you know, there's

618
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: been apparently all kinds of things glass alabaster, and then

619
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: they would put everything from egg white to fish scales

620
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: to snail slimeh to create that. You know, pearl has

621
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: a certain look. It's not just like a plastic wind

622
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: looks plastic for a reason, but a good artificial pearl

623
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: has a little magic to it as well. Do we

624
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: take a break? I think so, all right, we'll take

625
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: our last break and we'll come back and finish up

626
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: with what's going on today in the world of pearls.

627
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: All right. Uh, we're in modern times now and things

628
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: are still about the same about the pearls, like genuine

629
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: pearls that you're going to get our cultured Uh it is.

630
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: If you'd say I want a pearl necklace and I

631
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be the pearls found from that are natural pearls,

632
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: then you got a lot of money laying around and

633
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: you're pretty picky. Uh yeah, yeah, that's yeah. But you

634
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: can thank Mickeymoto for not having to have to have

635
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of money laying around or to be particularly picky. Um.

636
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of types of cultured pearls. Uh.

637
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: There's a koya, south Sea, Tahitian and fresh water and

638
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: depending on the type of mollusk that's used, it's going

639
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: to produce different colored gems. Basically, because I don't know

640
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: if we said are not. A pearl is considered a

641
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: gem even though it's not um like a mineral in

642
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: the sense that like a diamond is, but it's still

643
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: it still has a crystalline structure, so I guess it's

644
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: considered a gem. Plus people just like to wear them

645
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: on their foreheads. As I said, But if you want

646
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: a black pearl you're gonna have to go down to

647
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: Tahiti and get one from the black lip oyster, which

648
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: is just a yeah, they're cool, and they're not necessarily

649
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: all black. They can be gray, they can be browned,

650
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: they can be black, but they'll also they'll also have

651
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: like kind of iridescent hints of like greens or purples,

652
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: even pink. I saw oh pink pearls, well, pink black pearls,

653
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: which is uh if you if you're talking about just

654
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: sort of the standard traditional classic pearl. Uh. They are

655
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: produced in Japan and China, and those are those original

656
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: cultured a koya pearls still to this day. Um. And

657
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: then I guess you know the fresh water pearls. Those

658
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: are the ones that come from the Tennessee River, among

659
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: other places. Uh, fresh water mussels produced them. They are

660
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: um not as expensive. They come in all kinds of

661
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: shapes and sizes from lakes and ponds and I guess

662
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: rivers if it's the Tennessee River. And uh, they're also

663
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: little things called like rice pearls that look like what

664
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: you would think look like little grains of rice. Um.

665
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: They tried to perfect the process of getting them less

666
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: rice like over the years and found that if they

667
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: just switched the species of muscle, then they could do

668
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: that and it worked. Yes, And here is a little

669
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: tipped for you. If you want to impress everyone at

670
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: the country club, you obviously belong to. UM. Next time

671
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: you see somebody wearing pearls that are not spherical, tell

672
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: them you love their baroque pearls, because a baroque pearl

673
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: is anything but around shaped pearl. Yeah. If you look

674
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: up baroque pearl necklace, it looks almost like a necklace

675
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: of molars. Yeah, weirdly they do. Um, And that's a

676
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: that's a natural looking pearl. Again, a perfectly spherical, even

677
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: close to perfectly spherical pearl is really rare in nature. Um.

678
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: And so more often than not, you're going to see

679
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: everything from like blobby misshapen ones that, like you said,

680
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: look like molars, ones that are like teardrop shape. There's

681
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of different cool shapes that that you know,

682
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: it can be produced as natural pearls, and all of

683
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: those are broke right. UM. It is still kind of

684
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: a rare thing to cultivate successfully, or to culture successfully, UM,

685
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: a pearl old they've gotten the process down pretty good.

686
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: But uh, it takes about ten to eighteen months, and

687
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: about half of the oysters even survive that nucleation process,

688
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: like you were talking about, because it's really just very

689
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: very precise and it is very finicky. Uh. And of

690
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: those half, only about five percent will end up producing

691
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: a high quality pearl. So when you're pearl uh culturing,

692
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: I was about to say farming, I guess it's farming

693
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: in a way. Um, you are making most of your

694
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: profit about from those that five percent of the fifty

695
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: percent end up becoming high quality pearls. And you can

696
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: still do some stuff with a non high quality, but

697
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: you're not going to get the big top dollar prices.

698
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: And again that's just from cultured pearls. Again, it just

699
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: kind of reminds you how how really rare the really

700
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: nice natural ones are. And you said that it takes

701
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: ten to eighteen months. I saw in some cases they'll

702
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: they'll give the pearl up to four years to develop.

703
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: And while they're while they're cultivating or cult during the

704
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: the oysters, the pearls in the oysters, um, they will

705
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: scrub the oysters three times a year protect them from

706
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: predators and disease. These are like the most well cared

707
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: for oysters, which is great, but again they've had some

708
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: other foreign objects surgically implanted in them, and then when

709
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: the pearl is taken out, I don't believe the oyster

710
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: typically survives that process, which, if you really stop and

711
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: think about it, is is pretty mean. It's actually a

712
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: really mean, tortuous process. They're cared for while they're being raised,

713
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: it's true, but they're killed to get the pearl out

714
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: of them. They're just basically a machine to produce a pearl.

715
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Is how the pearl industry views oysters or other mollusks

716
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: that that produce pearls for it, well, hopefully they become

717
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: dinner and then nope, part of someone's driveway. They definitely

718
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: do not. They don't need really know and one of

719
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: the I think what Gaston Vivez actually might have come

720
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: up with this technique if it's not older, but I

721
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: think it's still in Useton places build harvest the oysters

722
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: when it's pearl harvesting time, and just to make the

723
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: process easier, they'll dump the oysters into huge piles. Cover

724
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: the piles so that things can't get to them, like

725
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: predators or like vultures or whatever. Um, and let the

726
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: oysters rot, and then the pearls are just easier to

727
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: retrieve after the fleshy part of the oysters gone. Truly,

728
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: some of those dudes are eating oysters. Some of them are.

729
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: And if you how about this, chuck, I've got a little,

730
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: a little fact for you that's going to keep you

731
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: off the oysters forever. Um, you you don't. If you're

732
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: eating a raw oyster, you're not dead oyster. Everyone does that.

733
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: It's really I didn't realize that really. Yeah, No, I'd

734
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: never really thought about it. But there's there's they're probably dead,

735
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: but if they're dead, they're freshly dead, and they're so

736
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: freshly dead it's possible that they're not actually dead yet.

737
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: So you might be eating them live when you eat

738
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: them raw. I hadn't thought about that. It makes me sad. Yeah,

739
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: I think they once you, I mean you've shucked oysters before, really, no,

740
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: I might have my oysters for me. Well. Part of

741
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: the shucking process involves cutting it loose from its shell

742
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: where it's attached, and I think that's that's that lifeline. Um, yeah,

743
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's just it's a renewable resource. But uh,

744
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: Peter obviously is going to say, now, making pearls is

745
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: not something people do just because you're you're messing with

746
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: an animal to get something from it. Yeah, so pet

747
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: is of course going to be against us. Sure, and

748
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: there is like a moral question about it is morally questionable,

749
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: but there are some real upsides to it. One is

750
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: it gives another industry to um to areas that might

751
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: be subject to over fishing, so that they don't have

752
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: to over fish just to make money. They can raise

753
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: oysters as well for pearls. Um. The oysters definitely clean

754
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: the water in the area that they filter out all

755
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: sorts of impurities and problems. UM. So that actually does

756
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: make the water cleaner and um as long as they're

757
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: not messing with like the coral reefs or the local

758
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: ecosystems to to create these farms, and they're doing it

759
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: in a more sustainable manner, it actually is a fairly

760
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: sustainable industry. It's just again mean to the oysters or

761
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: other mollusks. Are you off oysters now? I don't know.

762
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: You'll have to ask me when somebody presents me with

763
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: a platter of them and some crackers and and uh,

764
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: mignon Net, Mignonett. You gotta order that stuff? Uh, you

765
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: just randomly get presented with platters of oysters? What kind

766
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: of life you live in at the country club when

767
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I wear my string of molar pearls? Uh? Should we

768
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: go over kind of quickly a couple of these um

769
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: expensive famous pearls. Yeah, definitely, so you know, if you

770
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: want to talk about super expensive, super huge pearls, Uh,

771
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: there are a handful that. Um, you know, sometimes they

772
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: look like super large molar Sometimes they look like Olivia

773
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: described one as looking like a giant white brain. Um,

774
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: they're they're not very good looking. Um, yet they can

775
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: be really expensive, just as prized collectibles. I think. Um,

776
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: it's not like I don't think they've discovered a process

777
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: where they can take a big, large brain looking oyster

778
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: and break it down into a pearl and break it

779
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: down into like five thousand perfect little pearls, right, No,

780
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: not that I know of. No, it's more just like

781
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: they prize it for its weirdness and rarity. Yeah, yeah,

782
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: there's one. I think the biggest one we could find

783
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: is the seventy five pound pearl of Puerto And the

784
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: thing is, whenever one of these comes out. Everybody's like,

785
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: that's so expensive, it's so valuable. That one was valued

786
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: at a hundred million dollars and it was found by

787
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: a fisherman who kept it under his bed for a

788
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: decade in the Philippines. Now, all of a sudden, he's

789
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: sitting on a hundred million dollar pearl um or I

790
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: should say, sleeping over one um. But it's never been sold,

791
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: so no one knows if it actually is worth that.

792
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: It's worth whatever somebody will pay for it, basically exactly.

793
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: It's a very good point. But there is one called

794
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: La Peregrina, and it is arguably the most famous pearl

795
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: in the world. Is an egg shaped pearl. It's been

796
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: um fashioned into different necklaces and different jewelry. It's appeared

797
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: in poor tricks of queens, including I believe Elizabeth the

798
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: First and then a bunch of Spanish queens over the

799
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: years because it was part of the Spanish Crown jewels.

800
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: And then it finally made its way into a necklace

801
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: that Richard Burton bought for Elizabeth Taylor in nine very

802
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: famously so in that need, imagine wearing a piece of

803
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: jewelry that you knew was in a portrait of a

804
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: queen that was made hundreds several hundred years ago, and

805
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: now you're wearing it too, Like that's just cool. That's

806
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: one thing I like about stuff like this, Like a

807
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: pearl is something that can you know, make its way

808
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: through time and history from from person to person. Yeah,

809
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: and part of Hollywood history. I mean, one of the

810
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: great offen on romances in Hollywood history. Some people would

811
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: prize it just for that, from Richard Burton to Elizabeth

812
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: Taylor's neck. And uh, I think we should also mention

813
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: at least the people like, come on, I don't care

814
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: about giant Mueller's brain looking things. Guys, what is the

815
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: biggest like pearl pearl, Like the biggest really round owned

816
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: natural looking pearl. Uh? And I think the biggest one

817
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: they found is about and it's pretty big if you

818
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: think about a near spherical pearl um about point seven

819
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: inches right, um, and that's big. It's thirty three carrots.

820
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: If you know anything about diamonds of thirties, imagine a

821
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: thirty three caret diamond, but a pearl instead. And I

822
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: think it's sold for a million dollars in two thousand fourteen,

823
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: appropriately enough a million buckaroos. Uh, yeah, you've got anything else?

824
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: I got nothing else. All right, well, Chuck's got nothing else.

825
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: I've got nothing else. And since I just said that

826
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: out loud, that means it's time for listener mail. Uh.

827
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna call this do do, which is usually

828
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: your trumpet. Powell would like, yeah, please do do do do. Oh.

829
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: You went an octave higher. Yeah, very impressive. The stuff

830
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: you should know five k is all set and ready

831
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: for another year. If you're listening, you don't know what

832
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: this is. The stuff you should know Army on the

833
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: Facebook page, they get together, they plan out a five

834
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: k race uh slash walk and it's just a very

835
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: fun community event that happens all over the world. I

836
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: think it's not like they all meet together in Kansas

837
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Speaker 1: that Aaron Cooper's house and run from his driveway to

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Speaker 1: Just go to this Stuff you Should Know Army facebook page,

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Speaker 1: course was an update from Aaron Mizzell. Aaron Mizell, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying Mozzelle, Mozzelle. It's probably just Mozzell. Aaron's great,

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Speaker 1: She's been around forever. She was a movie crush or

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Speaker 1: And if you want to be like Aaron and let

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Speaker 1: us know something awesome happening, we want to hear about it.

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