WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Springer Conundrum, NBA Misstep 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:04.000 Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino and Rich Podcast. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.240 Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.719 to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.640 Find your local station for Convenio Rich at Foxsports Radio 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.920 dot com, or stream us live every day on the 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:15.920 iHeartRadio app. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:24.239 It's like searching FSR yo bringing the fun to you. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.280 All right, you're the renegade of fun, Rich Davis, It's true. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.600 It's super fun Time. Also known as Covino and Rich 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:38.840 CNR on FSR subcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studio. 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.760 I hope you had a lion, Seahawks, blue Jays George 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:43.800 Springer's sort. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.000 Tonight you're on to blue Jays. We'll be talking some baseball. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:47.600 I'm a little torn. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.880 I don't know how to feel about blue Jays. I 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:51.680 think a lot of people are a little torn. We'll 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.240 explain why, and George Springer has a. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.800 Lot to do with it. We're gonna get to all that. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:57.720 Don't you worry, Hey, don't you worry, because if you 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.440 miss any of today's show, any showever, search con Trivia 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.680 Shemir podcast. But first and first and mostly we be 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:09.120 rocking out. Let's go Taco Time Tuesdays, DYG is super producing. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.520 Danny g is on the phones. He's also getting show 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.880 Boy Mahomes ready for his trivia game later on show 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.120 Time Mahomes Trivia. We're giving away prizes later today with Mahomes. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.560 Danny G's on the phones. At eight seven, seven ninety 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.039 nine on Fox, we got Iowa Samuel on the ones 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:31.880 and tues Hi Sam Hello, and I am happy. I 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.560 had my tacos every Tuesday. It's the only good fast 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.720 food deal I've ever found. Two tacos for five bucks 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:39.959 at el pull your local. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:40.800 Hard to find deals these days. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.120 I know nice, I'm happy for you. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.320 Every other fast food place is like fifteen bucks, happy 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.639 for twenty bucks. 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I'm 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:21.360 still a rich David Sky. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.240 But you're working your way back. Well, I'll be working 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:30.320 my way back to buy vins. Could I be the 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.799 first to say, congrat see your Seahawks? 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.360 Hey, thanks, thanks, I appreciate that. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.600 Did I not start off the night the show by 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.359 saying I hope you have a Seahawks kind of night. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.239 And of course Spotty's on the videos because. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.200 We're streaming live. Covino and Rich fs are on YouTube. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.600 Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube, So Rich, can we 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:53.239 start it off by saying, I'm really really torn right now, 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.040 lying naked on the floor. I'm like Natalie and Brulia. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:00.320 I'm like Creed staff of Creed. I'm torn torn. I'm 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:06.839 torn because I'm an Al East fan. I'm a Yankees fan, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.960 and I can't be the only guy that feels this way. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.120 So I don't like the Blue Jays. The Yankees lose 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.880 Yankees I love that. Yeah, that was great. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.040 They are a great and scrappy team, So I don't 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.920 hate on their you know, game of baseball and how 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.680 they play the game. I just don't like them as 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.440 a Yankees fan. But then again, the Dodgers beat the Yankees. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.040 But I also live in La So I am so 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.040 torn right now, and I'm wondering on behalf of everybody. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.640 Should I be leaning towards the Blue Jays because the 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.720 Dodgers beat the Yankees last year this year? Yeah, I know, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.520 but the Dodgers are so good that maybe they need 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.120 to be humbled like the Iron Chic. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:51.680 Maybe it's the Blue Jay's time. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.400 Maybe you'll loom for the underdog because they are the 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.080 underdogs in this series. You know, maybe we root for 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:03.520 our our maple slurpin, teen love and floppyheaded hockey loving Canadians. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.960 You know, maybe we root for the Blue Jays. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.720 I am so torn right now because they're both hateable 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.080 and George Springer, you know, he's a former astro. I 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.160 wasn't a big fan of that guy either, but he 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.320 had a huge moment last night. I can only tip 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.480 my Yankee hat to that moment. It was so clutch. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.360 I'm so torn I'm a ball of emotions, mixed emotions 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.239 here on the show. I mean, grab your Tim Horton's, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.479 grab some Cheesis or ketchup chips, and I say root 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:28.440 for the Blue. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:28.840 Jays if i'm you. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.560 However, I think the factor here is a man that 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:34.720 was the hero last night. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:36.039 George Springer. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.080 I said to Danny and Big Mike runs his place, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.320 who are both big Dodgers fans? 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:41.520 I go, you guys over this whole. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.040 George Springer was on the Astros like eight years ago 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.520 and cheating in the garbage cans. And I know Al 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.160 Twovey is the face of that, but George Springer was part. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.200 Of the core of that team. Nobody forgot about it. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.960 I mean, does that still hold the layer tea where 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.600 it's like Springer against the Dodgers. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.440 He's got one of them those punchable faces in all 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:02.000 of baseball. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.800 I think we always will. Yeah, he does, he definitely does. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.680 But we also have to acknowledge the fact that when 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.360 it comes to clutch in big moments in postseason, he's 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.080 one of those names that can't be left out of 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.919 the mix. He's come through too many times and you 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.600 got to give him his prompts. But you could also 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.160 say the Mariners, not that they kind of blew it, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:23.200 but knowing that George Springer is so clutch, is it 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.719 automatic that you pitched to the guy? And not only 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.960 do you pitch to the guy with an open base, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.400 it's the same guy that faced them the night before 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:36.600 when they had their relief pitcher. They had Munnos on 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.080 the bench ready to go. So it's like, man, did 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.640 they blow that? Was that bad management? Or did just 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.760 spring or come through? And that's the end of the game. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.760 And that's just how it is. You know, how do 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.839 you look at that again? When I say I'm torn, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.000 I am so torn because I was surprised they pitched 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:54.839 to him in that moment they left I think it 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.920 was left a high sinker right there, right there for 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:58.839 him to tee off on. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.800 And he you know, he did it. You got to 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:01.599 give him credit for that. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.000 But still, why did they pitch to him? And why 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:08.159 did they leave Bizarro in there? Bizarrero faced this dude 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:14.840 twice already. That was bizarre, No, but bizarre, man, it 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:15.560 was bizarre. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:16.040 Though. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:22.880 You know, you got to making moves and Springer already 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.400 knew his stuff. He already saw it the past few days, 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.760 so that could have been a mistake in itself, but 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.200 he's still capitalized on it. So there's a couple of 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.760 layers here, layers to George Springer put some respect on 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.760 his name. But is it in your mind still a 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.760 cheating name that got away with something because and did 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.800 that Ironers just blowing or did he win it? Like, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.320 how do you see this Astros team? You taste it's 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.800 still a bad taste in your mouth from anyone affiliated 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.480 with that Astros team. And you're a Yankees fan, Danny, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.279 you and people are out here at Fox Sports and 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:52.560 live in l a or Dodgers fan. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:53.520 So the two. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.760 Teams, the two teams that I guess felt the wrath 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.760 of that Astro's team is the moment for you two. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.120 So you tell me, are you mad? Because to me, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.560 George Springer is a blue jay that's the past, ancient history. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.880 He's proven he's a star. Or you still butt her 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:09.640 at George Springer? 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.680 Yeah, I don't think mad or butt hurts the right term. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.600 It's just like a bad taste that's left in your mouth. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.480 Is it a breakup that you're not over type feeling 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:21.960 like it. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.080 Was more of like what could have been, you know, 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.920 had that not gone down the way it did. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.720 Do you feel like he doesn't deserve this? 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.640 No, I feel like he deserved to be punished, as 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.200 did his teammates back then, and they never had to 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.360 serve any sort of punishment, and so that's what leaves 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:38.280 the bad taste. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.520 They got away. Mike Scott freees Mike Scott. 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.840 He's a former and like Covino said, you got to 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.080 give the guy respect. He's he's a great clutch player. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.880 He keeps proving that. But dating back to that cheating 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.840 ass stros team, that's that's never risks for us. That's 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.280 this is never gonna go away. We're never gonna forget that. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.920 I mean, the left time. All of these things are true. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.600 Enough time, it's just a matter of what way stronger 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.320 in your heart could you know? Enough time will pass 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.120 while fans forget, because fans get older, fans die, young, 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.440 fans are born, like there's gonna be a time where 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.000 you just look back to that is never You're trying 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.240 to race like something that actually happened. I'm never gonna forget. 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.320 Doesn't go away. It's in the books. Everybody knows. Everyone 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.280 that was alive knows, and even people who are still young, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.720 your little son about this. It'll be a little note 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.920 but great because my son who's five and his otdle 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.880 t ball buddies. I guarantee you as they become teenagers 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.760 and twenty year olds, none of them are gonna be 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.640 like yeah, like El two in Springer and the cheating Astros, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.560 that's gonna be just a story to them and maybe 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.720 a highlight man, maybe we will. They banging on trash 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.839 cans like they won't even care. So I'm saying he 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:43.959 teed off on that sinker so hard. I wouldn't be 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.000 surprised if he knew what Pitt was coming last night. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.120 You know, there's so many ways to look at this, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.600 but I'm really not Yeah, they were. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.680 Tapping on maple jugs. You know. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.679 I think Big Mike, who runs this place, he has 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.719 tons of wisdom. I actually do agree with him when 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.599 I think of the cheating astros, George Springer for his 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.000 clutch as he always was with that team. He isn't 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.440 the guy I think of. It's Al Tuvey. I think 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.760 what he did last night was big for the Blue Jays, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.920 and I sort of associate him now, is hey He's 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.080 a big moment guy, and he proved it again with Toronto. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.960 If he beats the Dodgers in the World Series, meaning 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.719 if Springer is an influential player, gets a couple of 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.120 base hits or home runs in key spots and they 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:25.520 somehow upset the Dodgers. Is the the thought of like, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.200 well Springer was, I mean, he was a cheater and 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:28.200 he knew it was coming. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.080 Is that in the past? Do we does this look 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.319 like a child? 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.480 How do those I was gonna say, Rich, How do 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.360 those two things cancel each other out? They do what 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.839 it does for different seasons. It's different teams. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.880 What have you done for me lately? Do do doo 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.559 doo doo? Dude? 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.480 It doesn't change the fact there are two separate events. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.120 He had a big moment last night. He was also 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.240 part of a cheating team. Although I don't really make 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.360 him the face of that organization. I look at Al 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.679 Tuvey as that guy, but I also think in the 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.439 same breath that it was a bad move pitching to 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.080 the guy. I'm not saying you walk them, but you 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.720 pitch around him. You don't lay a meat balls. Your 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.760 mom would say, Rich right in his zone after he's 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.720 senior sinker two days in a row. I think that 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.880 was a bad rookie mistake last night, and the Blue 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.200 Jays reaped all the benefits. The crowd erupted, and you 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.920 have a heartbroken Seattle team and fan base out there 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.600 that deserved a little more than that. Man, I think 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.559 that's a tough way to lose. You had the win, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.360 you had it right there in front of you, and 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.360 you heard the screams and you heard the emotion in 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:30.440 the locker room afterward. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.680 It's not Ai, it's not fake. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.200 But you when you see the Mariners being interviewed, you 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.440 hear dudes moaning in sorrow and in heartbreak in the 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:39.960 locker room. 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.480 You hearn. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:45.079 Man. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.679 You see cal Rowney, who had the most magical season 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.760 maybe of all time, you see him in tears because 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.959 it hurts so much, all because you pitched to George Springer. 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.760 I'm not sure that was the best mom but he 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.280 came through. Let me be trivia boy for a second. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:07.760 Sure with that home run, Your dude, George Springer, you 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:08.920 love him, Danny, you love him. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:09.320 Comino. 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.200 George Springer is now tied for third all time in 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.480 postseason home runs. Can you round out the top five 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.760 off the top of the dome and throw a. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.000 Couple of names. Bernie B. Williams is in there. Bernie's 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.760 number five. Derek Jeeters got to be in. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.120 Jeter just misses the top five. Oh he does, yeah, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.480 number five, Bernie with twenty two. Springer has twenty three, 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.000 so he's now tied with Big Poppy Big Poppy Nod 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:32.520 on the list. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.480 Oh okay, well how about you just tell me. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:39.520 L two Vey is on the list and Manny Ramirez 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.319 number one, Many has twenty Manny has twenty nine, Al 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:48.839 tuoves twenty seven, and then Kyle Schwarber tied with and 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.800 Springer have twenty three. That's incredible, incredible too, Astro. It's 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.120 easy to hit twenty three. And when you know a 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.200 pitch is coming at least twenty two of them, you 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.040 know what's or juice out of your mind, but you 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.199 know at the same time. I again, this is why 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.720 I'm torn, Dan Byer. People come here sometimes for the answers. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.160 I'm really saying, I don't know how to feel because 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.560 he came through in a really big moment that was 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.480 as clutch as it gets, right, So I want to 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.720 hate on him. But what I saw was impressive, and 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.920 I love how he handled himself in the post game 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.880 when he immediately and again their media trained and he's 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.679 been there, done that, and he's very polished in the postseason. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:31.240 But everything he said was dead on awesome. The country too, 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.720 He thanked the country. He had his teammates first. He 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.880 put you know when he said he thinks about the 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.520 at bat, he thinks about the players that got on 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.280 base to allow him to do that. He put his 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.520 team before himself every time he was interviewed. So it 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.600 makes him that much more likable. Or he could say 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.400 he has to be that guy because everybody sort of 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.160 hates him from the Astros days. It was a big moment. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.199 I'm very torn, and as a Yankees fan, I'm especially torn. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.520 What are your thoughts? It was pretty awesome to see 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.720 and pretty awesome he here the Blue Jays fans erupt, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:02.760 even though I'm a Yankees fan. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.760 I didn't have a dog in the fight last night, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.360 and I don't have a dog in the fight. Usually 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:11.760 have dog fights, you, Michael two thousands. No, No, I 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:16.680 did not completely derailed with that. I didn't. I wasn't 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.120 cheering for anyone last night. However, I also can't stand 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.960 it when people take sports and try to compare it 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.960 to real life, because I think it's probably better in 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.080 life sometimes to just forget something to forgive something. It's 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.320 not the case in sports because sports is usually a 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.480 small amount of time. There's a small amount of time 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.280 in George Springer's life that he's going to spend as 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.440 a professional baseball player. But it's that portion, that cheating 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:47.360 scandal that I think does label you and continue to 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.520 label you. He went through a thin didn't have a 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.840 stuttering problem. He had, you know, a speech issue that 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.160 he has overcome. You mentioned his speech last night in 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.680 speaking Everybody loves him now, and it's easy to say 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.000 that was in the past, but they the players were 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.640 never punished, he Altuve and others, And to me, I 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.760 just I can't get over it. I can't get past it. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.640 And it's not different than a steroid situation or someone else. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.760 So if you have issues with those guys, I still 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.680 think that you should have an issue with someone like Springer. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.840 Yeah, you can't erase the past and sports. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.920 It's different there as fans, we are exactly fanatical, right, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.080 Like this is not like I forgive my buddy for 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.480 doing something dumb, or you know, I forgive my the 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.000 girl i'm dating for, you know whatever, it's different. I agree, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.320 there's something about sports you're fan. There's a different level 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.160 of like I don't have to forgive these people, like like. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.200 Your uncle that was drunk a Thanksgiving or something. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.800 Sure, and you know, something is something. As somebody cuts 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.680 you off in traffic, HA, probably better just to let 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.160 it go. And as you said, you could take it 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.280 with family issues. Hey, if this neighbor's been a jerk 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.360 for so long, maybe it's just better for your own 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.520 life to Yeah, yeah, just move on, not worry about it. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.520 But that's where sports in real life aren't the same. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.440 And I think that's I underst why people who were 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.280 against the Astros and against L two V and George 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.440 Springer probably didn't celebrate last night. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.560 You know. It also is easy for me as a 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.440 Mets fan to be like, guys, get over it. Who cares? 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.480 But I promise you that if the Astros got in 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.640 the way of the Mets, had had my Mets lost 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.920 to the Astros in the World Series in twenty seventeen, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.080 I'm sure I would be singing a different tune. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:22.440 Danny G. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.080 And if the Astros beat the Yankees, and I was 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.840 a Yankees fan along the way, I'm only like who 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.200 cares because it didn't affect me, And unfortunately that's how 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:30.920 so many people feel. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.600 Right, if it doesn't affect me, it doesn't matter. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.520 And it wasn't like an alleged thing. Everybody knows what happened. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.840 I mean, it's factual. We all saw it, we all 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.400 heard it, we all witnessed it. And by the way, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.840 Dan Buyer a great point. It does make George Springer 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.840 a little more likable too. He overcame his stutter and 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.840 became the spokesperson for the Stuttering Association for the Young, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.720 So giving back to the kids stepping up in big moments, 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:56.880 putting his teammates first. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:03.680 He's sort of he should have stuttered saying look. 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.120 At look at it. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.160 That's great about that story about him. But like Bayer said, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.560 these guys never came out and admitted any wrongdoing. They 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.720 never got punished. And we live in a society, especially 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.240 in sports, where we love to see a comeback. We 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.960 loved even your guy Pettit. What did he do? He 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.320 handled things the right way. This is why I did it, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.840 and we forgave him and those guys, And like Bayer said, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.400 this is kind of like the steroids issue because we 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.040 do not forget. We're like elephants with sports. That is true, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.480 and so I want to like him. They didn't take 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.600 enough accountability. Yeah, and it is hard. I wanted to 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.840 chair last night. I thought that was a great moment, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.680 But in the back of my mind, I kept thinking, God, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.880 I can't get over it. But and I don't want 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.440 to be like that, but I couldn't help it. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.280 So are we cheering for the Blue Jays or the Dodgers? 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.600 If the Mariners ended up winning, you knew the entire 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.320 country was rooting for the Mariners, unless, of course you're 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.880 a Dodgers fan. That's just the fact. That's just how 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.480 it was. Because it was like, this is gonna be 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.600 their first time ever. This is a nice team, a 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.360 great story. However, this is the Blue Jay's first time 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.879 back in the World Series in thirty two years. You 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.720 got this Springer thing again. They shouldn't have pitched to him. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.480 I'm a Yankees fan, I'm torn. What are your thoughts? 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:21.040 Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Regardless, which is 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.880 one of my favorite big words, regardless, regardless of anything, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.480 to come through in that moment. My goodness, that is 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.200 the reason why we watched sports. That is the reason 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.200 why baseball has been more electric than ever before or 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.840 in years, I should say in years, because that was 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.760 the timing of it, the moment, everything about it was just, 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:44.880 my goodness. I had to stand up out of my chair. 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.600 I was like, I can't believe is it true? By 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.200 the way, that George Springer was the kid in Billy 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:56.159 Madison that Billy Madison said to today Junior, i'm me 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:56.840 said that is that. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:58.800 I was gonna say, it's. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.439 Uh, it's an interesting guy, right, because you're right he 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.280 said everything right. He seems like everything right. Yeah, he's 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.840 on that forgiveness campaign. Hey Rich, what were you doing though, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.920 because last night you had Lions Seahawks, you had their 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.119 those games on. Were you going back and forth the 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.000 whole time? I'll be honest, I watched mostly baseball, Yeah, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.040 same time, and I was I was going back and 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.600 forth checking on football. I feel like baseball them Buyer 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.760 Seahawks had a great. 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.280 Control of that game for the most part. 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.760 Maybe it appeared the Buccaneers Lions, but I felt the 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.439 Lions were running away with it, and I was like, 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:36.440 I'm just keeping it on. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:37.320 I'll be honest that. 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.800 The Lions did what we said yesterday. They asserted that 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.359 I listen, Baker, you're awesome. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.560 Bucks. You know you're you're a good team. You'll be there. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.879