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Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Kaleida Helth.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Week ten with a divisional matchup on the

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Speaker 2: road here at hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida,

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Speaker 2: as the six and two Buffalo Bills take on the

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Speaker 2: two and seven Miami Dolphins. Back to pass, looking left,

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Speaker 2: quick hitter into the end zone, cock for a touchdown

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Speaker 2: by m MA Leake Washington for a nine yard touchdown

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Speaker 2: reception and the Dolphins are on the board. First takes

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Speaker 2: the hand off back to pass, looking deep down the

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Speaker 3: He's got waddle in the end zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He beat Max Harriston in a one on one matchup.

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Speaker 2: Alan in the shotgun takes the snap back to pass

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Speaker 2: looking over the middle. Now steps up in the pocket

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Speaker 2: looking for somebody downfield. He's in pursuit. Doubles back to

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Speaker 2: his right to buy more time, looking for anybody open.

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Speaker 2: Nobody is. Samuel is over the middle and.

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Speaker 3: He's got the football in a first down as he's

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Speaker 3: into Miami territory at the forty nine.

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Speaker 4: Here's the snap, Lit's coming.

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Speaker 2: Allan gets rid of the football looking into the end

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Speaker 2: zone and it's intercepted. Intercepted in the end zone and

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Speaker 2: coming up with it is if fave too. Melifan Wu

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Speaker 2: Coleman back shoulder complete, reaches for the pylon.

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Speaker 4: He's in for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Keyon Coleman with a huge touchdown bread to a back

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Speaker 3: He'ves it deep down the middle of the field looking

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Speaker 3: for Waddle and it's intercepted by Maxwell Harston. He's up

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Speaker 2: Bills right back up on the ball, gonna run the

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Speaker 3: He's through a hole and dragging defenders with him into

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Speaker 3: the secondary and he fumbled the football. Miami's got the

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Speaker 3: football after the fumble, hand off to each hand looking

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Speaker 3: Fax Harriston trying to track him down, trips him up,

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Speaker 3: but he's into the end zone for a fifty nine

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Speaker 3: There's a snap back to pass, has time pocket collapsing

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Speaker 3: in a roll out to his right, fires across the

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Speaker 3: middle of the field. It's complete to Hawes, who's into

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Speaker 3: the end zone for a twenty six yard touchdown reception.

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Speaker 2: Pitch play to the left to eight Chan. He's got

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Speaker 2: some room, he's through a.

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Speaker 3: Hole, and he's gonna walk into the end zone for

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Speaker 3: a thirty five yard touchdown run.

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Speaker 2: And that will do it. So the last twenty seconds

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Speaker 2: will take away and the Bills will fall to six

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Speaker 2: and three on the season as Miami gets the win

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Speaker 2: here thirty to thirteen in pretty convincing fashion. That is

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Speaker 2: dot org. That was a rough one yesterday, thirty to

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Speaker 2: thirteen in favor of the Dolphins, Tua's second career win

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Speaker 2: against the Bills. He is now two to nine in

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Speaker 2: his career against buffet.

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Speaker 4: I had to do some emotional eating this morning. I oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: had a bag. I had to have a bag of

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Speaker 2: It oh, just to make emotional leading. Yeah, yeah, just

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Speaker 2: not last night?

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Speaker 4: She get ready what that was a bad loss. That

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Speaker 4: was a bad loss, and it. Yeah, they had you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, you're not gonna go seventeen and oh or

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Speaker 4: even you know even fifteen and two, right with with

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Speaker 4: all the injuries and all that. But man, lose to

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Speaker 4: those guys on that day yesterday, that stings.

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Speaker 2: That is the second time this season that the offense

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Speaker 2: has laid an egg. They did it on Monday night

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Yeah, and they did it again. They pay

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Speaker 2: past too. They did it against the Patriots too. They

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Speaker 2: didn't play that well and they turned it over. And

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Speaker 2: most troubling for Bill's fans is hearing the players themselves.

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Speaker 2: And this is the second time we heard this. They

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Speaker 2: said similar things after the Atlanta game, and then they

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Speaker 2: said it again last night. And I will quote Dion

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Speaker 2: Dawkins directly. He said, they just played harder than us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And Daikwon Jones, a veteran player, followed that up by saying,

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Speaker 2: we get paid a lot of money to show up

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Speaker 2: and play our best every week. There is no excuse

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Speaker 2: to have an opponent play harder than you did. But

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Speaker 2: it happened for the second time this season yesterday in Miami.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and everybody is complicit in it, from the coaches

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Speaker 4: down to the player leadership, to the players themselves, certainly

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Speaker 4: the leaders on the team, the position coaches. You got

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Speaker 4: to show up. And I get it too. Man. The

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Speaker 4: Dolphins looked like dead men walk in the last few

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Speaker 4: weeks that I mean, they were horrible. And you come

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Speaker 4: in and think, you know, let's just go down here

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't work that way in the NFL. It's

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Speaker 4: a week to week league. And you got punched in

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Speaker 4: the mouth and when you tried to answer, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it means even more because you're you know, you're

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Speaker 4: not gonna win the division. It looks like, right, you

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Speaker 4: got to I mean, something bad's got to happen.

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Speaker 2: And you look across fifteen and hope and get help.

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Speaker 4: And you look across at the Patriots and then they

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Speaker 4: don't show up like that anytime. You know, of course

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Speaker 4: that's going for them. They don't show up flat they don't.

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Speaker 4: You know, do what look the way the Bills looked

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Speaker 2: Well, they're hungry. They're a team, that's true. Not one

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Speaker 2: football game has been considered a laughing stock. And they're

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Speaker 2: trying to They're they're not just out to make the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and all that stuff. They're out there to earn respect.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: The Bills already have respect. They have the league MVP

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Speaker 2: at quarterback. They're not fighting for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it shows, Patriots are It shows, Let's fay,

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Speaker 4: it really shows. And that's an I remember living through

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Speaker 4: stuff like this as a player. And you've seen it

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Speaker 4: in other teams in the current moment in the NFL

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Speaker 4: with the Chiefs Philly, some of these teams that have

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Speaker 4: It's man, it's the worst feeling, not only as a

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Speaker 4: for a variety and for whatever reason, they show up

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Speaker 4: and look like that. That stinks, right, that stinks.

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Speaker 2: That is their first loss to Miami since Week three

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty two season, the last time they

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Speaker 2: played a one pm game in Miami. Granted that was

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Speaker 2: way back in Week three. This was Week ten, but

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Speaker 2: it was still hot out there and the Bills were shorthanded,

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Speaker 2: particularly on defense. It was the first game the Bills

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Speaker 2: have lost by more than four points to Miami since

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Speaker 2: Week eleven of the twenty fourteen season. The offense with

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Speaker 2: their slowest start of the year, as the Bills were

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Speaker 2: out in the first half of the game. Bills eked

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Speaker 2: that game out fourteen to nine. Sixteen point deficit at

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Speaker 2: That's how rare that slow start was yesterday.

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Speaker 4: It's been a minute since we felt this bad again

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, it's Buffalo's offense zero for six on

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Speaker 2: neutralized by Miami's run front, which held James Cook to

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Speaker 2: both had lost fumbles, Allen through an interception in the

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Speaker 2: in the victory. Devon ah Chan had the second most

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Speaker 2: its ugly ahead again. The Bills also lost Dalton Kincaid

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Speaker 2: It got so bad that Daikwon Jones had to go

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans three to four defensive front. That's how

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Speaker 4: Hard to look down the road too, is how this

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Speaker 4: frustrating part about it, sitting here like this as you

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Speaker 4: you kind of the why it's rare. So yesterday the

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Speaker 4: and they hold the Dolphins to sixteen points in the

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Speaker 4: sixteen points against the defense. They didn't have Chop Robinson

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Speaker 4: all stack in the box. The run fronts the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: The game plan is out for how to stop the

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this with a league MVP

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Speaker 2: at quarterback. You forced the Bills to throw the football, right,

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Speaker 2: you neutralize their rushing attack. You force them to throw

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Speaker 2: the ball. That is the game plan. And Anthony Weaver,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're gonna what they do is they'll take

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Speaker 4: Kincaid or Shakira away. And yesterdays right, but yesterday Kincaid

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Speaker 2: that's a week from today. Following the team's game in

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Speaker 4: out and they're going zero to two or two and

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Speaker 4: three in the first five games of the season after

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl win, let alone, you know, a loss

436
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Speaker 4: after a you know, a loss in the divisional round

437
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Speaker 4: or a championship round. I mean that's you get these

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Speaker 4: teams that go and they go every year and they're good,

439
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Speaker 4: and they're you know, you just they start taking it

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Speaker 4: for granted. And as we've seen, the Bills have got

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Speaker 4: punched in a mouth a couple of times from thinking

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Speaker 4: like that or at least playing like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we expect to hear from head coach Sean McDermott

444
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Speaker 2: this afternoon where there will be injury updates on Dalton,

445
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Speaker 2: Kincaid and land and Jackson who left yesterday's game and

446
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Speaker 2: did not return, but NFL reporter Jordan Schultz is reporting

447
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Speaker 2: that Land and Jackson too, or his MCL and PCL

448
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Speaker 2: during Sunday's game against the Dolphins. Team still evaluating a timeline.

449
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Speaker 2: Full recovery expected, but whether he'll be back and when

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Speaker 2: he'll be back still to be determined, according to that report.

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Speaker 2: But let's go to the phones at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: h five point fifty one eighty eight five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty and to Pete in Pennsylvania, what's.

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Speaker 6: Up, Pete, guys, how are you today?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 6: Good, hey, guys. I'm going to take this from a

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Speaker 6: different point of view, in a different angle. I remember

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Speaker 6: I called back a while ago and basically said to

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Speaker 6: the effect that if the roster we had would have

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Speaker 6: been in the hands of a let's say, a Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame coach, the wash of parselves, would this have

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Speaker 6: been the result? And I think all of our palls

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Speaker 6: sort of gave us the answer. I think I'm going

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Speaker 6: to retract a little bit in that, you know, we're

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Speaker 6: all blaming McDermott, and I'm going to say this, I

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Speaker 6: think coach McDermott is the rudder that keeps us straight,

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Speaker 6: and I think the problem is either going to go

468
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Speaker 6: above him on who makes the decisions and the player

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Speaker 6: of personnel decisions and below him. And when I mean

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Speaker 6: below him, I'm gonna say that I'm a little upset

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Speaker 6: at our quarterback. You know, our quarterback needs to be

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Speaker 6: the leader. I understand you can lead quietly, you can

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Speaker 6: do this, you can do that. But dude, when you

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Speaker 6: play a certain way and you show either frustration or

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Speaker 6: almost like a lack of interest, that goes downhill. The

476
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Speaker 6: water runs down hell. Your teammates see that. And as

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Speaker 6: much as I and I will say this in a

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Speaker 6: nice way without using any vulgarity, as much as I

479
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Speaker 6: despised Diggs, I think he had a point. You know,

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Speaker 6: I think he had a point when he would look

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Speaker 6: at Josh and go, dude, what are you doing? Or

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Speaker 6: you know I heard back in back a while ago.

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Speaker 6: In my mind, I remember a conversation where Diggs was

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Speaker 6: like literally cussing him out in the locker room and

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Speaker 6: he turned around the other Digs that's just a game, guys.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but it's not just a game. It's a

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Speaker 6: football game that these guys practice all week. Give blood.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Steve, you know you played this game. You know,

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Speaker 6: you suffer. It's a game of playing hurt man, and

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Speaker 6: when you're not leading by example. In my opinion, and

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Speaker 6: I hate to say it, but I heard something else where,

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Speaker 6: you know, they said that to him, this is not

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Speaker 6: the most important thing. There's other things other than football.

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Speaker 6: I love Josh, but I think that the dude needs

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Speaker 6: to be treated with different gloves. Now. You know, the

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Speaker 6: only guy that got to him and got the most

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Speaker 6: out of him was day Ball, and that's because Dave

498
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Speaker 6: Ball would get in his face, spit, spitting his face

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Speaker 6: while he was yelling at him. Like probably the coaches

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Speaker 6: in mind and everyone else is irritated and say, hey man,

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Speaker 6: get your blank together and play like you blink and

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Speaker 6: know how to blank and play. And I think him,

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Speaker 6: if it's true picking Dorsey, him picking Brady, stop that.

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Speaker 6: Let the coaches go get a veteran offensive coordinator that

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Speaker 6: can tell Josh, hey man, I know you want to

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Speaker 6: run the seat, but you can't. Okay, you gotta do

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Speaker 6: it this way how I say, when I say and

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Speaker 6: how I say it. And I'm sorry I'm getting a

509
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Speaker 6: little upset, but it just aggravates me that we just

510
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Speaker 6: lost to a team that I cannot believe we lost

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Speaker 6: to And when I hear guys saying, oh, you know,

512
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Speaker 6: let's uh, let's uh, well, they want it more than us,

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Speaker 6: What do you mean they want it more than us?

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Speaker 6: You guys are fighting for the number one. See, you

515
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Speaker 6: have the easiest row passive one years to get there,

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Speaker 6: and you got a guy and Brady who's running a

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Speaker 6: pop gun offense. You know, if you know joshu strengths

518
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Speaker 6: are not accuracy, which he You know, when I hear

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Speaker 6: someone saying I know from the first throw if I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna have it or not today, dude, I don't want

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Speaker 6: to hear that stuff. You should have it every day.

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Speaker 6: You could be off a little bit, you know, if

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Speaker 6: you're playing like last night, if you watch the game

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Speaker 6: and get some high throws and by more quarterbacks, I

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Speaker 6: can attribute that to the crown in the field. Sometimes

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Speaker 6: the fields have the crown. Okay, I get that, But dude,

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Speaker 6: if you know josh strength, why are you running an

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Speaker 6: offense that needs that sort of precision throw. You need

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Speaker 6: a guy who can scheme guys open. I know we

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Speaker 6: don't have the best talent, but dude, I've not tridden

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Speaker 6: Tom Bradley play with Tom Dicken Harrions and win games.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 2: I think you're making an awful lot of assumptions. You're

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Speaker 2: claiming to know what Josh Allen's leadership style is behind

535
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Speaker 2: the scenes, and there's no way for you to know that.

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Speaker 2: And I think Josh is a capable leader. Uh he

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Speaker 2: you know, so that's first off. I will agree with

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Speaker 2: your point that Diggs was very good here in demanding

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Speaker 2: more of everyone. He was a demanding leader on this

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Speaker 2: football team. We would witness it in practice. He would

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Speaker 2: push guys to compete in practice so they would be

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Speaker 2: better in games. He's doing the same thing in New

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Speaker 2: England right now. You could go read a story on

544
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Speaker 2: ESPN dot com today. He was challenging Traveon Henderson as

545
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Speaker 2: the running back of this football team last week this

546
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Speaker 2: past weekend, knowing that Ramandre Stevenson was injured and not playing,

547
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Speaker 2: he demanded from his rookie running back and said, look,

548
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Speaker 2: best running backs in the league. They don't get tackled.

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Speaker 2: They finished the play in the end zone, and Traveon

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Speaker 2: Henderson had two long touchdown runs in that victory over

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. And he credits Stefon Diggs for inspiring him.

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Speaker 2: He is an inspiring presence in a locker room and

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Speaker 2: he demands more. And I think I don't think the

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Speaker 2: problem is Josh Allen. I think Josh needs more support

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Speaker 2: in there from other veteran leadership to demand more of

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Speaker 2: the balance of that locker room so they are ready

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of games. Yeah, what else did he have?

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Speaker 4: He was complaining about scheme, about the about mcdernot keeps

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Speaker 4: the rudder state at the GM and the owner that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with the makeup of the

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Speaker 4: roster right now. I just wish the roster was actually

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Speaker 4: on the field because even in a game like that yesterday,

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Speaker 4: if we had the guys that we thought we were

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Speaker 4: going to have three months ago on the field, that

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Speaker 4: would have been the answer to the problems they had.

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Speaker 4: But we don't. So you got to go with what

567
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Speaker 4: you got, and they couldn't get it done yesterday. I

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Speaker 4: don't have any problem with There's a lot of ways

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Speaker 4: to attack what happened yesterday and what we have. What

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Speaker 4: Brown and I have even said is an emotional lack

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Speaker 4: of oph whatever. They wanted it more than we did

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Speaker 4: say it. However you wanted to, they showed up flat.

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Speaker 4: Whatever that does to me, that does fall on the players.

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Speaker 4: That's not a McDermott problem. That's a player problem.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: That's if you If I said it a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: when the same thing happened in New England game, or

578
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Speaker 4: maybe it was the Atlanta game. What if if a

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Speaker 4: coach has to fire up the players in that locker room,

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Speaker 4: you got the wrong players. You gotta They've got to.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what it is to be a professional athlete.

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Speaker 4: You're motivated from inside and you use whatever you can

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Speaker 4: to get there. That's why you see all these guys

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Speaker 4: pulling stuff off the internet and that all this disrespect

585
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: and every insults you can think of, they pull off

586
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Speaker 4: and they use it for fuel to get themselves ready

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Speaker 4: to play. That's on the players. You got to do that.

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00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: And if they're not doing that, then yeah, that is

589
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Speaker 4: a problem. So they need to address it somehow, some way.

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Speaker 4: If that's if that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, But more of your phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we return. So if you're holding an eighth

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty, stay where you are. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to you when we get back. You're on a Buffalo

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Speaker 2: football Monday and one. Bill's Live presented by Killida Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Here's the snap hand off to

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Speaker 2: eight Chanity's wrapped up in the backfield by Bosa for

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Speaker 2: a loss at the forty six. It's a loss of five.

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills because life Joey Bosa. Your player

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Speaker 2: of the game. Four tackles, including two for loss and

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Speaker 2: the one you just heard there on devon a Chan.

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Speaker 2: We are going to get back to the phones though

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Speaker 2: at eight oh three, five fifty one, eighty eight, five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty those are the numbers to join us.

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Speaker 2: And we lead off this segment with Ron in Getsville.

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Speaker 2: What's up Ron?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, good morning. I just want to start off

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Speaker 8: by saying, I'm eighty years old. I've been watching the

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Speaker 8: Buffalo Bills since the first year in existence in the

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Speaker 8: Old American Football League. I've gotten to the point where

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Speaker 8: after yesterday's game, i am through watching them. I've had

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Speaker 8: seasons tickets. I'm sorry, can't get around anymore because I'm

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Speaker 8: on a walker, but I just cannot take what I

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Speaker 8: saw yesterday. From any excuses, from the defensive side, the

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Speaker 8: offensive side, or any side. There's a lot of things

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00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 8: that are wrong with this team. And I really believe

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Speaker 8: it starts at the top. It's not strictly the players.

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Speaker 8: It's the guy that's running the show. And I'm not

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Speaker 8: talking about Pagoula. I'm talking about the head coach.

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Speaker 9: He is.

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Speaker 8: He gets them to a certain point, but cannot finish

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Speaker 8: the job. He hasn't done it, and I don't believe

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Speaker 8: he ever will. Yesterday was the last game I'm going

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Speaker 8: to watch, and I have been with this team for

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Speaker 8: a long time. One last comment. It took the Chicago

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Speaker 8: Cubs one hundred and eight years to win a World Series.

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Speaker 8: Bills fans, hang in there. You only got forty eight

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Speaker 8: more years to go.

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: I's not happy, right, so we have it.

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Speaker 2: What was the straw that broke the back year? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're an eighty year old man. That's Will's football for

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Speaker 2: sixty years.

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Speaker 4: You sat through two thousand and three with Greg Williams,

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Speaker 4: you sat through set through three and thirteen two, you

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Speaker 4: sat through all of that stuff, and fourteen eighty five

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Speaker 4: and you got a team there's a five time division

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Speaker 4: champions sitting at six and three and have a bad loss,

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Speaker 4: and that's what does it.

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Speaker 8: They've won five divisions. They can't go any further. They

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Speaker 8: will not go any further as long as McDermott as

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Speaker 8: the head coach.

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Speaker 4: And that's so they got. They get they're getting this.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Ron, Ron, Ron, So

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Speaker 4: they're getting a swing at the they're getting a swing

649
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: at the chip every single year now. And you sat

650
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: through the seventeen year playoff dropt. That didn't turn you off,

651
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: but this does.

652
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 8: I was younger then, and I guess a little bit

653
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 8: more tolerant.

654
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: Tolerant. Yeah, you're you're more tolerant in your youth. I

655
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: get it. I get it. Yeah that I'll say this, Ron,

656
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: You're right about one thing. That was a that was

657
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: a tough one to sit through yesterday, particularly the way

658
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: most Bills fans felt going into that game. I thought,

659
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: and maybe you did too. I don't know. I'm not

660
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: gonna put words in your mouth on I thought the

661
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: Bills were gonna lump those guys up yesterday, and I

662
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: thought it might because it was a division game, it

663
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: might end up being a single digit or a single

664
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Speaker 4: possession you know result, And you know, for a while,

665
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: even in the second half when they couldn't get out

666
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: of their own way, look like, you know, the Bills

667
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: get it to well before the fifty nine yard run,

668
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: when the Bills starts stacking it and they start getting

669
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: tired defensively, But it looked like, Okay, it's gonna be close,

670
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: and even if the Bills don't win, it's going to

671
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: be a single possession game. But man, it finished up

672
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: seventeen points. And yeah, that was a tough game to

673
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: sit through. I'll agree with you that, no question about it.

674
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 4: But particularly because of the expectations we all walked into

675
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 4: that game with. And that's what makes it excruciating on

676
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: a day like today. So I'm I feel for you, Ron.

677
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you're pulling the ripcord and calling it quits

678
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: and you're no longer a Bills fan. But I get it.

679
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: I'm that you can feel that way. Man, that's your

680
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 4: it's your way, your perrogative, your parrogative. You sat through enough.

681
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 4: I mean, Browdie, I've been here thirty eight years. Brownie's

682
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: been here over twenty. We're not there yet.

683
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: I watched every game of three and thirteen in two

684
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: thousand and one. That was a that was a much long,

685
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: younger season than this one, I promise.

686
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: And let me tell you that after sitting through all

687
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: the losses, we sat through the Monday night game against.

688
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: Dallas two thousand and five, right, all of the.

689
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: Whole run nothing in Cleveland, the home run throwback in

690
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 4: the playoffs, that all of that stuff. I've sat through

691
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 4: all of that stuff. This is still better than that

692
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: to me. But I but I'm not eighty. So you

693
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: got me there, so you can. I feel bad for you. Ron.

694
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: So I don't know what you're gonna do it Sunday

695
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: at one, but I hope you have fun. I hope

696
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: you don't have that bad taste like we did today.

697
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in Syracuse next.

698
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 4: What's up, Mike, Hi, Chris.

699
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 10: I, Steve, I guys don't good good. I just had

700
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 10: a couple of quick comments. I was very obviously upset

701
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 10: like everybody else about the game. My my biggest takeaway

702
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 10: from it that was very surprising. I think that just

703
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 10: absolutely derailed us was Josh and Cook being a little

704
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 10: bit undisciplined with the fumble. I just thought those were

705
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 10: such bad fumbles on our behalf. I just don't Maybe

706
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 10: you guys can explain it to me better as to

707
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 10: why they had both and both of their fumbles that

708
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 10: were lost already made their play, they had already got

709
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 10: their yards.

710
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: YEP.

711
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 10: I understand that they were desperate and they wanted to

712
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 10: get as many yards as they could because offense was struggling.

713
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 10: But at what point did those guys decide like, I

714
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 10: just need to go down because I thought Miami was

715
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 10: I mean, it was obvious that they were throwing haymakers

716
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 10: at the ball to punch the ball out against this

717
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 10: all games. I noticed their defense doing that constantly, and

718
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 10: you know, josh On the Snowploff play just kept going,

719
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 10: kept going, and then the ball got punched out unfortunately. Now,

720
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 10: mind you, if you would have made an amazing play,

721
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 10: everybody would have been saying as praises. So I understand it.

722
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 10: I get it, So that point kind of where you

723
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 10: know you can. I just wish we were a little

724
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 10: more disciplined with those because I think we we hold

725
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 10: onto those two balls. I think the defense did a

726
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 10: good enough job to keep us that game. I mean

727
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 10: we were scoreless, scoreless through the through three quarters.

728
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 8: How win a game?

729
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're right, Well, it's it's unbelievable. No, it's a

730
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 10: last real quick comment. I just wanted to just congratulate

731
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 10: the inductees that are going to the Buffalo Sports Hall

732
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 10: of Fame tomorrow. I happen to be related to one.

733
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 10: Congratulations to Murph. I'm going to be attending. I'm very

734
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 10: honored to have to go to that. That's all I

735
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 10: got and go builds and thankstick much all that.

736
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, you best. Steve and I will both

737
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: be there tomorrow on Murs behalf as well, so we

738
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: look forward to it too. But yeah, you're right about

739
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: the fumbles. They both happened at the very end of

740
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: the play, and that's when you're susceptible to fumbles when

741
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: you're straining for the extra yard. I believe if you

742
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: asked James Cook, he saw the first down, marker saw

743
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: he was within a yard of it, thought he could

744
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: get there and stretch for it. And when you're stretching

745
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: and straining, that's when you're vulnerable and you have to

746
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: make a conscious decision there. And Josh two, who already

747
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: had the first down, to cover up the ball because

748
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: ball security is more important than the extra yard.

749
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: I'll say this as well, though, When you're in a

750
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: game like the Bills were, nothing was going right offensively.

751
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: They couldn't get anything going, and we all knew, and

752
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 4: you could tell by the way they were playing, Josh

753
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: felt like he had to put the cape on the

754
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 4: third and sixteen that he picked up to Samuel Curtis Samuel.

755
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: It was a play that he ran around forever before

756
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: he actually threw the football and picked it up. I mean,

757
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: you could just feel Josh stepping into the phone booth

758
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: and coming out with his cape on right. You knew

759
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: he was in that mindset. And that snowplow play where

760
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: he'd driven I thought he was gonna come out of

761
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: it and go the distance. Yeah for a hot minute,

762
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 4: But those are the kind of plays he felt like

763
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: he had to make to inspire the team, get show

764
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 4: his leadership, get those guys behind him, turn the tide

765
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: and favor the Bills for a minute, you know, walk

766
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: out of that tackle and get down inside you know

767
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: the twenty ar in the red zone or you know whatever.

768
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: So that's where he was his mindset was. I think

769
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: that's where his mind set was at and he's trying

770
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: to do something extra because that's where they were at

771
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: in that game, right, So you're right when you make

772
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: the play and the players may just go down, make

773
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: sure you end up with the ball. And when you

774
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: try and strive for extra yards, how many times do

775
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 4: you see the ball come out. That's exactly what happened

776
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 4: on both those You were right, they did it trying

777
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 4: to get the extra yards. Those fumbles were crucial, as

778
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: they always are this in the game like that yesterday,

779
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: of course, and usually for this Bills team or this

780
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: version of the Bills, their margin of air isn't as

781
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: wide as they would like it, particularly in the game

782
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: like that yesterday with the injuries and when all that

783
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 4: stuff that was going on, their margin of air was

784
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: not wide enough to overcome three turnovers. It's that simple.

785
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: There's breaking news in the NFL. Brian Dable has been

786
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: fired as head coach of the Giants, So after their

787
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: loss to the Bears yesterday, he is out as head

788
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: coach of the New York Giants. He does not reach

789
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: the end of the twenty twenty five season. So Brian

790
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: Dable the latest head coach firing in the NFL. Not

791
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: the first and unfortunately won't be the last this season,

792
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: so sorry to see that, but the Giants are moving on.

793
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: They'll have an interim head coach yet to be named

794
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,760
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795
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: by the end of the day. Today, got to take

796
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: a break here, but more of your phone calls when

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811
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Speaker 2: what's up?

812
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 9: Kevin, Hey, guys, how you doing. Thanks for taking my call.

813
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 9: Two things I want to bring up the score wise

814
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 9: the clawburn that we got yesterday. Someone said it was

815
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 9: like the worst sense that urban minor game against the Jaguiders.

816
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: Remember that was rough nine to six.

817
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I.

818
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 9: Think this is the worst scoreboard wise clawburn the Bill's

819
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 9: got since Steve former teammate Frank Wright came in with

820
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 9: the Colts that Sunday before Turkey Day in twenty twenty one.

821
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 9: Debos like forty to thirteen or something.

822
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan Taylor at five touch.

823
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was like a Hall of Famer already. But

824
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 9: you know the thing is, I listened to Bulldogs show

825
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 9: after the game, like a lot people do, and he

826
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 9: brought up in four or five people called in that

827
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 9: three hour span. I listened to the whole thing about

828
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 9: the lackluster attitude, not so much the game, but the

829
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 9: end of that third quarter when he was like, oh hum,

830
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 9: went the third quarter end that different people brought up,

831
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 9: like four or five people in that three hour span,

832
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 9: and Bulldog did not disagree with either one of them

833
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 9: about that last when you're losing that much and you're

834
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 9: flat just oh hum, led the third quarter end. He

835
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 9: did not disagree. I just want to hear your comments

836
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 9: on this.

837
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, is that what you're talking about about?

838
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 9: The lackluster of it was like, you know, just like

839
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 9: oh hummed.

840
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean that. To me, that's that's less

841
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: of an issue than the lack of energy and juice

842
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: that the team brought to the football game from the

843
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 2: very beginning, and then hearing the players after the game

844
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: admit it openly that the other team played harder than them,

845
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: and the fact that this is the second time we've

846
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: heard players admitted much. They said it after the Atlanta

847
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: loss on Monday Night Football in week six, and they

848
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: said it in the locker room last night. They played

849
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: harder than us. There is no excuse for that, not

850
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: in professional football. And Daikwon Jones laid it out for

851
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: everybody in that locker room to understand. You got players

852
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: in the one end of the locker room saying they

853
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: played harder than us. They just did. Got to give

854
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: them credit. Well, that's not acceptable though, and Daikwon Jones

855
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: said as much. He said, Look, we're professional athletes. We

856
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: get paid a ton of money to come out and

857
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: perform every week, and there is no excuse for not

858
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: playing as hard or harder than the opponent you're facing

859
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: each and every week. So there's a little bit of

860
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: a disconnect in there, player to player as to why

861
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: you're coming out like that, and that's got to get

862
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: fixed and fixed fast, or you're gonna be watching the

863
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: playoffs on your couch.

864
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 4: You just are.

865
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: The margins in this league are too narrow to come

866
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: out flat like that and then decide, oh, you know what,

867
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 2: we're gonna turn around here in the third quarter.

868
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: We'll be all right.

869
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way, not in this league.

870
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: The letting the clock run out of the third quarter

871
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 4: I wasn't even on my radar because at that point

872
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: the Dolphins hadn't scored, since they hadn't scored since the

873
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: second quarter, Bills hadn't scored. The gaen it was sixteen

874
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: to nothing. Bill's driving, so they felt like even if

875
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 4: you if you score there get and the two point

876
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: goes good is eight to sixteen. There's no The clock

877
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: is not a factor if you're gonna start playing Football's

878
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 4: that's why that is. The game was sou too close

879
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: to worry about an extra play squeezing it in the

880
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter, So that's the reason that wasn't

881
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 4: on my radar. I get it, it looks even worse,

882
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: and you're when you let the clock run in a

883
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: game you're down by sixteen points. But that, to me,

884
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: that's nothing. That's a nothing burger because you felt like

885
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: you had plenty of time to make something happen. If

886
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 4: we've seen this offense do it. Yeah, and that did

887
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: not make the difference in the game, right, And I

888
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: don't think that was the difference in the game. And

889
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: I don't even know that it was a tell tale

890
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: of how that game was playing out with the attitude

891
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: and the stuff we've been talking about. So I'm yeah,

892
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: not nothing for me on that, but yeah, that Yeah,

893
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 4: we've seen some stinkers in this building, a lot of them. Uh,

894
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: And we're you know, talking to Ron about how many

895
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: things he sat through as an eighty year old and

896
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: that this was the final straw.

897
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: You know.

898
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: I can't get there. Yeah, I'm not there, but yeah,

899
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 4: it's a tough loss to take for a lot of people.

900
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: So Michael in Rochester here before the break, what's up?

901
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 12: Michael, Hi, Christine, thank you for taking my call. Sure,

902
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 12: and I completely agree with your rank Chris on what

903
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 12: the previous caller. There is no there's no reason to

904
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 12: be coming out flat, especially after are a big win

905
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 12: against Kansas City, and they'll probably say that that's the

906
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 12: reason why they came out play. But this is professional football.

907
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 7: You have to be up for seventeen.

908
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: Games a year.

909
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 7: But one of the reasons why I'm really concerned is,

910
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 7: for the first time since Tom Brady left New England,

911
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 7: there's another team in the division and let's just star

912
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 7: quarterback and a good head coach. And as you know,

913
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 7: New England's out of seven game winning streak. So we

914
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 7: no longer now as Bill fans can just guarantee that

915
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 7: you're going to win the division anymore. And so every

916
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 7: game is important and every game matters. And what I'm

917
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 7: really concerned about is this offense feels very scripted to me.

918
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 7: What I mean by that is if first and second down,

919
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 7: they either don't get the first downs or don't get

920
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 7: seven or eight yards in the first two downs, it's

921
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 7: like this offense can't function. And I think that if

922
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 7: you're going to compete for a super Bowl, which is

923
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 7: the goal for this team, you have to be able

924
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 7: to convert Thurn and law, and you saw there was

925
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 7: one that they converted yesterday what Josh Allen did as

926
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 7: Superman thing. But that's not sustainable. And to me, they

927
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 7: have to pass more on first down, and I like

928
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 7: to see Josh Allen using more play action passing under

929
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 7: the center because I feel like when I watched the

930
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 7: game is that when he's in the shotgun, it's usually

931
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 7: a pass or design run, and when he's under center

932
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 7: it's a handoff to James Cook or whoever the running

933
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 7: back is. I just like to see the offense be

934
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 7: more diversified. What's your thoughts on that?

935
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you want to diversify things. I'll listen

936
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: to that, Michael, But I will say I'm going to

937
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: disagree with your point that to be a great offense

938
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: you have to convert on third and long. There isn't

939
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: an offense in football that converts well on third and long.

940
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: The point is to stay out of third and long

941
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: by being efficient on first and second down. The best

942
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: offenses do that because you can look at the percentages

943
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: across the league. I will be willing to bet that

944
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: there isn't a team in football on third and seven

945
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: or more that's converting more than forty percent. I would

946
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: almost guarantee it. You stay out of third and long.

947
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: That's what the best offense is in football do because

948
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: the odds are against you on third and long. The

949
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: advantage lies with the defense if it's third and seven

950
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: or more. And so your job as an efficient and

951
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: productive offense is to stay out of those down and

952
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: distances in the first place by being efficient on first

953
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: and second.

954
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 4: And you think about the division, You're right, it's hard

955
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 4: to envision a scenario where the Bills win this division now,

956
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 4: even if you beat even if they beat New England

957
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 4: in week fifteen, because they're like full two games behind

958
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: right the game and a half back game and a

959
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 4: half back so it doesn't seem like it's likely. And

960
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 4: I'll just remind you two years ago when the Bills

961
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: were three games behind Miami with five games to play.

962
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: They were six and six after twelve games.

963
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 4: Play, and you know they walked them down and won

964
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: the division. So it's a guy from help. It has

965
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: never been a given that they win this division. Despite

966
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: where you're thinking now, the Jet you know, the Jets

967
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: and the Patriots. When thing and the Bill's dominance over

968
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: the Dolphins, it seemed in retrospect you think it was

969
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: easy to win the division. It was never easy to

970
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: win this division, and it's not going to be easy

971
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: this year. If they managed to find some way to

972
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: do it. This is they were worst spot. They were

973
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: a worse in a worse spot three years ago at

974
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 4: six and six after twelve game, twelve weeks, and they

975
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 4: came back and won the division. So it's never been

976
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: a given. It's never easy to win the division. That's

977
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: why every season starts with, hey, we got to win

978
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: our division. Try and get you know, get a home

979
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: playoff game. That kind of thing, no question about it.

980
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: A lot of people and me and Brownie included, felt

981
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: like if if the Bills were gonna win the Super

982
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: Bowl this year, they needed a home field advantage. Yep,

983
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 4: I don't know that. I have wavered off that.

984
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: And this year their play at home is in stark

985
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: contrast to their play on the road, with the exception

986
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: of the Patriot, I think game on Sunday Night Football.

987
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 4: In Week five, they were undefeated last year. I think

988
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 4: they were undefeated last year at home, but I think

989
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 4: it's even more market than that. This year they're home

990
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 4: and away. It's a bigger discrepants, bigger discrepancy, even though

991
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: you know they they're rundefeated at home. I'm with Brownie.

992
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: I I still think they've got to And I don't

993
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: know what's gonna happen in the week coming weeks. I

994
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: know that this team is going to play a lot

995
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 4: better than it did yesterday. Whether it's enough, who knows.

996
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's never been easy, and it shouldn't be easy.

997
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: It's not worth it if it's easy. But these are

998
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: these are the hard days to take when you're when

999
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 4: you're coming down to the second half of a seat

1000
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: football season, you need to win games.

1001
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break. Here second hour of the show,

1002
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: or yes second hour of the show. We are wide

1003
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: open for your phone calls, So if you're holding at

1004
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: eight h three oh five point fifty, we will have

1005
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: time to get to you, so feel free to chime in.

1006
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: Give us your biggest takeaways from yesterday's lost to the

1007
00:50:47,440 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: Dolphins here on One Bill's Live.

1008
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

1009
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 2: All right back here on a Buffalo Football Monday, Chris Brown,

1010
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you our number two as we discussed

1011
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: the biggest takeaways from a humbling defeat for the Bills

1012
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: at the hands of the Miami Dolphins, who are now

1013
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: three and seven on the season. Bills fall two, six

1014
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: and three. I want to get right to the phones

1015
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: where people have been waiting patiently, and we go to

1016
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: Debbie in Hamburg. Next. What's up, Debbie?

1017
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 13: Hi, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. You know, it

1018
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 13: was a hard game to watch Ben a fan for years,

1019
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 13: I in fact turned the game off in the fourth

1020
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 13: quarter and watched Uncle Buck. I just needed to take

1021
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 13: a break. But I think one of my takeaways from

1022
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 13: yesterday's loss it just seems they've been a little bit

1023
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 13: more consistent this year than past years. I'm just wondering

1024
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 13: if you think it's just the injuries that we've had,

1025
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 13: or if there's anything else going on. And my last

1026
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 13: point is or question, do you think we'll see Gave

1027
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 13: Davis by the end of the season, and if so,

1028
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 13: you think you'll have an impact?

1029
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thanks, Debby, all good questions. I'll have Steve address

1030
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: gave Davis.

1031
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 4: First of all, Uncle Buck good choice, yeah, Second, leave

1032
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: it to John Candy, all right, pet Inconsistently, there's a

1033
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 4: number of reasons for inconsistency in the offense. I think

1034
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 4: most of it has to do with personnel, Guys being

1035
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 4: in and out of the lineup.

1036
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: There have been an inordinate number of injuries. Even Sean

1037
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: Sean mcdermery was asked about it in the most game

1038
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: press conference last night and he already said leading up

1039
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: to the game, it's something that they are looking at

1040
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: because the number of soft tissue in have been extensive.

1041
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: I acknowledge that with this offense the way it is,

1042
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 4: I think it's it's hard for maybe Josh. The one

1043
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: thing that's bensconstant is the offensive line's been good, James

1044
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 4: Cook's been good. Those things have not been that inconsistency.

1045
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 4: Certainly inconsistent. Certainly they ran into a buzz saw yesterday,

1046
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 4: but really because of the lack of a passing game yesterday.

1047
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel was in and out of the lineup. He

1048
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 4: was in yesterday finally, but Josh Palmer was out and

1049
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: you gotta Elijah more in and out of the lineup

1050
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 4: as well. Shavers and Coleman have been the constants. Shakir

1051
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 4: has also been out there as well. Shakier's getting taken away.

1052
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 4: I think the defense really kind of focuses on Khalil,

1053
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: and they certainly did it yesterday when Kencaid left so.

1054
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, because they didn't feel threatened by anybody else.

1055
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: That's a man up on everybody else.

1056
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: That's right. I think there's a real problem that this

1057
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 4: team needs. And I said this, I've been saying this

1058
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, and I kind of just

1059
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 4: came back to me in this moment. They need to

1060
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: be healthy to be good and consistent on offense. They

1061
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 4: need Palmer, They need Samuel to be on the field

1062
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: and available to be their best offensively when those two

1063
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 4: guys are out. Shakiir and Palmer, Shakiir and Palmer, Yes,

1064
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: Shakiir Palmer, and also Sanders and Kincaid. You need all

1065
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 4: those They need their guys healthy, and they have been

1066
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: in it. All those guys have been in and out

1067
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 4: of the lineup so much. I don't know. It may

1068
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: affect with their consistency because we've seen them play really well.

1069
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 4: You know, they're hanging forty points on people. But when

1070
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 4: there's when they start to get inconsistent and they start

1071
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 4: to do something, the defense does something like take away

1072
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: the run, which not too many people have been able

1073
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 4: to do. They struggled yesterday when they didn't have their

1074
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: guys available. It was it was an ugly loss offensively

1075
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: and defensively. It wasn't that bad of a game up

1076
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 4: until the fourth quarter. And I think that game plays

1077
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: out much differently. If the Bills have got a couple

1078
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: of touchdowns on the board, they couldn't you know, they

1079
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: fumbled them away. So yeah, I think the inconsistencies from

1080
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 4: the offense are their Achilles heel. Fumbles were a big deal,

1081
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: and I think their inability for Josh to cut it

1082
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: loose hurts them.

1083
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: And then as far as Gabe Davis is concerned, he's

1084
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: got to be healthy if he's gonna be a factor

1085
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: on the offense. And look, the trade deadline came and went.

1086
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: The Bills couldn't get a deal done, even though there

1087
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: are reports that they made extraordinary efforts to get one done.

1088
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: They apparently were the highest bidder for Jalen Waddle, but

1089
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 2: because they're a division opponent, Miami wouldn't pull the trigger

1090
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: on the deal. We knew they had made phone calls

1091
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: for other receivers and could not get a deal done.

1092
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis is an option. I suppose you could turn

1093
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: to he probably offers you a little more veteran experience

1094
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: and consistency in the passing game than maybe a key

1095
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: on Coleman at this point in time. But he tried

1096
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: to practice last week, had some issues and they had

1097
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: to back him off a little bit. I don't know

1098
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: what his timetable is, but he's got to be fully

1099
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: healthy before he's even in consideration. And I think you

1100
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: do have to remember and not dismiss this fact. And

1101
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: it's a fact he has a fifty percent catch rate

1102
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: in his career.

1103
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: Brian and I have talked about this at length off

1104
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 4: the air. But if you have another showing like you

1105
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 4: did yesterday, everything's on the table, yep. So you could

1106
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 4: see anything. And I'm not saying it's Gabe Davis, and

1107
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: they're certainly not gonna bench Josh or some stupid like that.

1108
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: I'm talking about every player on the roster, every player

1109
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: on the practice squad will be used at their disposal

1110
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: to try and break out of a funk that they

1111
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: were in yesterday. Now, I don't think they're going to

1112
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: stay in that, but if they do, nothing will be

1113
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 4: off the table as far as guy's on the roster

1114
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 4: who can be utilized to John.

1115
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 2: In north Tonawanda, what's up, John?

1116
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1117
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 15: I got three things. First of all, I'm seventy eight

1118
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 15: years old and I'll never give up on the Bills.

1119
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 15: And I was wondering if any having the Bills to

1120
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 15: look at the free agency for a wide receiver. And

1121
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 15: the other one is Coleman. This sort of leaves me cold.

1122
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 15: He doesn't seem to be what he should be. And

1123
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 15: I'll hang up and listen to you on the free.

1124
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, John, and appreciate you staying loyal to

1125
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: your team. Love it. As for Coleman, I tried to

1126
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: pay a little bit closer attention to him yesterday when

1127
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: I could replays things like that, I'm calling the game,

1128
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: so it's kind of tough. And then I went and

1129
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: watched some film as well. And I don't know what

1130
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: it is about his style of play, but you know,

1131
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: we talk about urgency with this team, and there are

1132
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: times where I just don't see it from him, down

1133
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: in and down out. I don't know why that is,

1134
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: particularly on offscript plays when Josh extends the plays and

1135
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: the scramble rules go into effect. I can't put my

1136
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: finger on what it is, But to me, they're just

1137
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. There's a lack of

1138
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: urgency there. It's it's a little concerning to me, and.

1139
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: Keon is I think unfortunately for Keon, he's the new

1140
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: guy and he plays a lot, and he is the

1141
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: kind of becoming the poster child for the disappointment with

1142
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 4: the offense whenever it looks bad when he he just

1143
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: gets a lot of criticism and a lot of attention

1144
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 4: when they're not scoring points and moving the football effectively.

1145
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: Only he can change that. And for whatever the reason is,

1146
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 4: for whatever, whatever the reason, the excuse, the whatever, only

1147
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,959
Speaker 4: Keon can change the narrative around him. But he does

1148
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 4: seem to be in the call we get, in the

1149
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 4: feedback we get on our show. He seems to be

1150
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: the focal point of the disappointment. Right. Whether it's fair

1151
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: or not, we may never know. But it's up to

1152
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 4: him to guide his way out of that and work

1153
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: his way out of it. He's on the field for

1154
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: a reason, and I don't think this is This is

1155
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: not a coaching staff that puts players on the field

1156
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 4: who don't earn it. So he's doing something right. In

1157
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 4: the meeting rooms, on the practice field. He's doing something

1158
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: right because BROWNI and I have witnessed it firsthand. Guys

1159
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: who earn it get on the field. If you don't,

1160
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 4: you're not. So Keon is out there for a reason.

1161
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 4: They don't put him out there just because he's the

1162
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 4: first pick of the second round in last year's draft

1163
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 4: or two years AGO's draft. They don't put him out

1164
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: there just because he is Keon Coleman. He's doing something

1165
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: to get his way on the football field, and it's

1166
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 4: up to him to exploit that and to make the

1167
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: most of it. But right now, Branni and I will

1168
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: tell you, we get a lot of a ton of

1169
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 4: people it's all about key On this key On that

1170
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 4: he has been the focal point of the disappointment for

1171
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: the offense when it's been disappointing that obviously. I mean,

1172
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: they're scoring a lot of points most weeks, so it's

1173
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: not much to talk about. But when they do look bad,

1174
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: he gets a lot of blame, whether he deserves it

1175
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: or not. It's what you sign up for as a player.

1176
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 4: I get all that, but he can change that narrative himself,

1177
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 4: and it's up to him it.

1178
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: Certainly, as the talented too sure, just you just want

1179
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: to see.

1180
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 4: It more sure, And I think that's in a day

1181
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: like today. Goodness gracious. I mean, there's enough of that

1182
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 4: to go around for everybody.

1183
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: So and then you know, as far as free agents

1184
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: that are out there, I'm just trying to look at

1185
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: some lists online right now. I mean a lot of

1186
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: older players, you know, like Robert Woods or Nelson Aguilore,

1187
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: you know, kJ Osbourne, Uh, Equanimia, Saint Brown, Colin Johnson,

1188
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: a big target, you know, rakeem Jarrett. It's it's not

1189
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: exactly you know, the best bushel in the bunch, but

1190
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: you know, if you feel you can add something and

1191
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: provide a spark somewhere, like Steve said, Bills have another

1192
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: performance like they did yesterday, you might see more of

1193
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: these people coming in and getting worked out and checked out.

1194
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: Because if there is anywhere that you feel on this

1195
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: roster you can do better. And I'm not saying anything

1196
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: that Brandon Bean doesn't know or his personnel department, it's

1197
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: their job where if they feel they can upgrade the

1198
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: roster in any way, in any capacity, it behooves them

1199
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: to explore it. And they believe me, it happens here

1200
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: all the time. They're always on the lookout. So if

1201
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: they think they can do zero point one percent better

1202
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: in an area, they are going to avidly pursue it.

1203
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: We've seen it here and it's happened. Back to the

1204
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: phones and let me see who's been waiting the longest year.

1205
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: We go to Joe and Tonawanda.

1206
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 16: What's up, Joe, gentlemen, how are you on this miserable

1207
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 16: loss Monday?

1208
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: Doing our rest?

1209
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 16: I know, I know, I'm a fan of Jefferson Dodds

1210
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 16: Day's almost fifty some years season ticket holder opted in

1211
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 16: for the new stadium, and it's just I just have

1212
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 16: a couple of notes watching.

1213
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 17: The game yesterday and just just.

1214
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,959
Speaker 16: S thoroughly disgusted with it. But you know, the game

1215
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 16: plan when you go in is to key and like

1216
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 16: I know last week we had keeth in that if

1217
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 16: we contain, if we can contain Mahomes, get him out

1218
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 16: of pocket pressure. We proved that and we won that

1219
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 16: game by doing that.

1220
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 11: Devin h me.

1221
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 16: Every time we play Miami, this guy goes off on

1222
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 16: us every time.

1223
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 7: We know.

1224
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 16: When I'm I know when we're playing Miami, his name

1225
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 16: is brought up and I'm like, yep, as soon as

1226
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 16: he touches the ball and sure enough he went off

1227
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 16: on us again. There was no scheme, nothing to stop

1228
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 16: this guy. I mean, he's a great player, but there

1229
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 16: was nothing we did to go after him. Yeah, they

1230
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 16: have two, they have a Wattle, but their primary offensive

1231
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 16: weapons Devin and we let him again. And if you

1232
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 16: look probably back at all those recent Dolphins Bills games,

1233
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 16: he shows up on the stats seat every week when

1234
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 16: they every game we've played Miami, and it's just disheartening.

1235
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 16: You know that we watched this yesterday. As far as

1236
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 16: loyal two blood Bills mafia fans, you know, not to

1237
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 16: mention the money we spend on and here and everything

1238
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 16: else loving this team. I'm not giving up, you know what.

1239
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 16: I'm not giving up whatsoever.

1240
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 18: I have faith.

1241
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 16: You know, people want to call the coach out, call

1242
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 16: the owner of this, that or the other. You know

1243
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 16: what it is. What it is. We're six and three,

1244
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 16: We're still in the playoff spot. Let's move forward. Let's

1245
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 16: get a big w with Tampa.

1246
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, yep, sure thing, Joe. I mean, there's a

1247
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: lot of football left to change the narrative here. And

1248
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: as Steve pointed out earlier, they're in a much better

1249
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: place than they were two years ago when they were

1250
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: six and six after twelve games played. So let's see

1251
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: what the next week brings and take it from there.

1252
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 2: As with respect to a Chan, this just in he

1253
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: does this to just about everybody.

1254
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: The guy has little Bills problem.

1255
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: The guy has thirty two touchdowns in thirty eight career games.

1256
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: Just think about that for a second. Thirty two touchdowns

1257
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: in thirty eight career games counting yesterday. He has ninety

1258
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: plus yards from scrimmage in eight of their ten games

1259
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 2: this season. So it's not just the Bills that he's

1260
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: doing it against. He's doing it to everybody, even though

1261
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: he is one of the one of only two real

1262
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: viable weapons for them. That's how effective he is. So yes,

1263
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: he was a problem for the Bills yesterday, but he's

1264
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 2: been a problem for a lot of other people too.

1265
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: You know, he's super fast. He runs a four to

1266
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: three to two and for one hundred and eighty eight

1267
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: pound guy, he's pretty tough player.

1268
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, he runs up inside that the uh. He

1269
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 4: had a number of big runs and it's a it's

1270
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: an NFL problem, not of Buffalo Bill's problem. And it's

1271
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 4: hard to stop donn a chan eight Chan. He's a

1272
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 4: really good player. But you got to know that going

1273
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: in as well. The frustrating thing yesterday, and I think

1274
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 4: it does speak to if you're gonna criticize the defense

1275
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 4: at all yesterday after you know, Browning and I have

1276
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 4: kind of been going to their defense a little bit.

1277
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 4: I think the one thing you have to do is

1278
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 4: you could criticize them for their mistackles yesterday. There was

1279
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 4: a lot of mistackles. He got a lot of yards

1280
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: after contact for a guy one hundred and eighty eight pounds.

1281
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 4: And one of the axioms in the NFL is small

1282
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 4: backs don't break as many tackles as big dudes do,

1283
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 4: which is kind of logical. If you and eight Chan

1284
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 4: broke a ton of tackles yesterday, that's a little frustrating,

1285
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 4: and that's one thing you may be to call the

1286
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 4: defense onto the carpet about his missing tackles like that.

1287
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 4: But man, they kept them off the scoreboard for three quarters.

1288
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Speaker 4: Sixteen points in three quarters of an NFL game. Is

1289
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 4: with your offense you should win that not enough to

1290
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 4: win that game. And conversely, Miami tackled very well. Yeah,

1291
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 4: they did very well.

1292
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: They tackled James Cook very well in that game yesterday.

1293
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: There were very few yards after contact for him and

1294
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: whoever else was running the football. Let's go to Sean

1295
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: in Rochester. What's up Sean?

1296
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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, first time, long time. How are we doing today?

1297
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 4: Good?

1298
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 19: Good?

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01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 11: I'm just wondering. You know, from your guys standpoint, it's

1300
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 11: pretty clear the windows closing. Are we upset that Bean

1301
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 11: didn't move Allen at the deadline? Do you think we're

1302
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 11: gonna move on from him in the off season? And McDermott,

1303
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 11: you think he makes it to the end of the

1304
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 11: season or they'll just let him go in.

1305
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 16: The off season.

1306
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: I think they will both make it through the this

1307
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 4: season regular season. I think they will both make it

1308
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 4: through the next offseason. I think they will both make

1309
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 4: it through the next regular season as well. They're not

1310
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: going to fire a guy that six and three coming

1311
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: off five division titles. You're just not gonna do it.

1312
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 4: And this roster. The reason Brandon Bean didn't make a

1313
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 4: move at the deadline was because the teams he was

1314
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 4: making offers to said no, he couldn't get a deal done.

1315
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 4: It's been reported that he made higher offers for players

1316
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: on the market that were trade.

1317
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: The highest offer.

1318
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 4: He made the highest offer for players that were moved

1319
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 4: to the teams that just said no. So you know

1320
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 4: you're there's no way ownership's gonna say he didn't even try,

1321
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 4: and fans might, but I mean he's not gonna overpay.

1322
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean restructured a contract on this roster to make

1323
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: enough room in anticipation of a deal getting done. You're

1324
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: not going through all those hoops.

1325
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So then asking.

1326
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: Your owner to sign a check for a player on

1327
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: your roster to make cap room because you think a

1328
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: trade's not happening.

1329
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 4: Yet, and could be very honest with you if you're

1330
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 4: gonna fire Brandon Bean because of a because of the

1331
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 4: bad roster, I think you got to look at the roster,

1332
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: at the guys who aren't playing, and think how different

1333
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 4: would it have been yesterday? Even defensively where Brown and

1334
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 4: I have been kind of pumping their tires about how well,

1335
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 4: you know, they kept them off the scoreboard for three quarters.

1336
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: How much different would it have been with Ed Oliver

1337
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 4: and Michael Hoyt on the team, you know, and Tarren

1338
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 4: Johnson playing nickel and Christian Benford playing corner. That might

1339
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 4: have been a little bit different, even a better defensive

1340
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 4: performance than it was for three quarters yesterday. I don't know,

1341
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 4: maybe maybe not, but it would be really nice to

1342
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: have all those guys available. Those are really good players

1343
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 4: that Brandon Bean had nothing to do with not playing yesterday.

1344
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and you said window closing. I'm tired of

1345
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: hearing this narrative. We tried to put a moratorium on

1346
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: it on this show because I'm just sick of it.

1347
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you flat out right now, even

1348
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: if the Bills go in the tank and don't even

1349
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: make the playoffs this year, I'm still gonna sit here

1350
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: and tell you their window isn't closed.

1351
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1352
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: So, just enough with that. It's just come on.

1353
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, I'm I'm not a Yeah, I don't. I

1354
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: agree with Brownie. I don't think there's This is not

1355
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: the season to be talking about that, and even this

1356
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 4: next offseason. I'm you think about it, if the offseason

1357
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 4: started today and they were out of the playoffs, you

1358
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 4: still got to feel like, man o, man, if we

1359
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 4: can get these guys healthy and bring them back, I

1360
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: want to see this crew. Now there's some other ramifications

1361
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: of this offseason. I'm building you know, Joey Bose is

1362
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 4: on a one year deal, so he may be out

1363
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 4: the door. That kind of stuff's going to happen. But yeah, no,

1364
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 4: I that's not gonna happen. They're they're not making any

1365
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: move off of this crew anytime soon.

1366
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 2: In my opinion, there are two teams in the league

1367
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 2: that have made the playoffs and each of the last

1368
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: six seasons, it's the Bills and the Chiefs. That's the list.

1369
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: So you want to talk about consistency, continuity, and sustain success,

1370
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean are the definition of it

1371
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: in a league where it is virtually impossible to do that,

1372
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: and the fact that it's just the Chiefs and the

1373
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: Bills that have done that is proof of that. And

1374
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: I know people are gonna say, wow, I'd rather miss

1375
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs one year and win the Super Bowl the

1376
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: next year. I'm sure the Bills would sign up for

1377
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: that if you could give them a guarantee slip, but

1378
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: you can't. So instead, their approach is let's get to

1379
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: the tournament every year and keep swinging. And they've done

1380
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: that for six years despite the fact that they're playing

1381
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 2: a first play schedule every year. They win the division,

1382
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: they're still doing it.

1383
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 4: So every team who changes head coaches is taking that tack.

1384
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 4: That's what they're trying to do. The Detroit Lions did it,

1385
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 4: it didn't work. The Chicago Bears not only did they

1386
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 4: do it, they've done it four times in the last

1387
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 4: ten years.

1388
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers made it to two Super

1389
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: Bowls in the last six years, but have not made

1390
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: the playoffs the last six years consecutive. So, you know,

1391
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 2: and they don't have anything to really show for it

1392
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: to either. Okay, they got a couple of NFC titles,

1393
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: but they don't have a Super Bowl either. So look,

1394
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: I know, I know there's going to be detractors because

1395
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: all you want is the Super Bowl title. And I

1396
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: get it. We all would love to see the Bills

1397
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 2: win a super Bowl. But they're swinging every single year

1398
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 2: because they're in the tournament.

1399
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 4: It's and I'm not settling at all. I don't think

1400
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 4: you're settling at all. Every year is different, every team

1401
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 4: is different, every tournament is different. The matchups you're gonna

1402
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 4: get in this in these playoffs this year are going

1403
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 4: to be very different from the matchup even if you're

1404
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 4: playing the same teams. It's going to be very a

1405
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 4: different matchup than it was twelve months ago. I want

1406
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 4: to take my swing in those games that matter, and

1407
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of contention fatigue that

1408
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 4: you know we can't you can't like pass up a

1409
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: chance to go just because you think it's not gonna happen.

1410
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I I'm I'm kind of with Brownie

1411
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 4: knows how I feel about this. Man, Give me the

1412
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 4: Give these guys a chance to go and take their swing.

1413
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: They may not make it, but that's where that's where

1414
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 4: every team in the league is trying to get to

1415
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 4: and you're one of the teams that does it every

1416
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 4: single year. You can't belittle that. And it's not settling

1417
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: because you think you got a head coach and a

1418
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 4: GM that can get you the playoffs every single year,

1419
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 4: but they'll never win the big one. I don't buy

1420
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 4: into that at all at all. That's that's not where

1421
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 4: I you, That's not where you should live mentally. You

1422
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 4: got to know that these guys learn from it and

1423
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 4: get better every year. The coaches do. McDermott certainly does.

1424
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean learns from it. You get better and better,

1425
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 4: and you you build your roster the best way you

1426
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 4: can every offseason, and they've got a shot at it

1427
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 4: every single year.

1428
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: And I think they'd be the first to tell you

1429
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: they know their team's got some flaws, but so do

1430
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 2: a lot of other teams in this league. That doesn't

1431
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 2: mean you throw win it.

1432
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: Every team has got some problems, and there are other

1433
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: teams who will do exactly what you're talking about there

1434
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 4: pushing all their chips to the table. The Indianapolis Colts

1435
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 4: two ones for a corner. They think they're gonna go

1436
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 4: this year. They're gonna go this year. We'll see, Yeah,

1437
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 4: we'll see.

1438
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, more of your phone calls

1439
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: when we come back, along with the big energy play

1440
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: of the week here on a Buffalo Football Monday on

1441
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live Stay with us. Alan in the shotgun

1442
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: takes the snap back to pass looking over the middle.

1443
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 2: Now steps up in the pocket looking for somebody downfield.

1444
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: He's in pursuit, doubles back to his right to buy

1445
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: more time, looking for anybody open. Nobody is.

1446
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: Samuel is over the middle and he's got the football

1447
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 3: in the first down as he's into Miami territory.

1448
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: At the forty nine. That is your big Energy play

1449
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,560
Speaker 2: of the week, presented by a National Grid. Grid is

1450
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills. That twenty one

1451
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: yard hookup on some Josh Allen off script magic to

1452
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel for twenty one yards?

1453
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 4: Was that before or after his fumble? It was before,

1454
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 4: wasn't it before? Yeah?

1455
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: I know in the other way.

1456
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 4: That's when you he's got the cape on, he's trying

1457
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: to do everything himself. That's what led to that fumble

1458
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 4: later when he's trying to run it. Yeah, that's yeah,

1459
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 4: that's not when things are running smoothly.

1460
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: Well, no, you don't want to. You can't live that

1461
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: way and you can't have to play within the structure

1462
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: of your offense and hopefully your players are executing more

1463
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 2: effectively where Josh doesn't have to do all that extra stuff.

1464
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: That was not the case yesterday. Back to the phones

1465
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: for your biggest takeaways from yesterday's humbling loss at the

1466
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: hands of the Dolphins. The falls of six and three

1467
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: on the season. To Jack up in lockboard, what's up, Jack?

1468
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 18: Hey, guys, how's gone?

1469
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: It's going?

1470
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 4: All right?

1471
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 18: This is all retrospect everything. Do you think the stage

1472
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 18: better than the locker room. Do you think the message

1473
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 18: is lost a little bit with Sean McDermott. You know,

1474
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 18: we take away this, that take away and tackling, and

1475
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 18: yesterday that was lacking. You know, we gave the ball

1476
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 18: away and we didn't tackle.

1477
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 2: So you're talking about a disconnect between coaches and players?

1478
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 2: Is that what you're asking about?

1479
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 20: Just?

1480
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 18: You know, Sean McDermott's beender a while and I'm not

1481
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 18: advocating for him going at all. Believe me, I love

1482
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 18: the guy and being just sometimes as the players, does

1483
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 18: it go in one air and out there?

1484
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I get what you mean.

1485
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 18: Alone.

1486
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 4: Is McDermott's message getting stale kind of or something like that?

1487
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 4: You know kind of thing. Here's the thing. I put

1488
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 4: this on the players. This this coaching staff, this head

1489
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 4: coach has proven to be more than capable of getting

1490
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 4: a team ready to play. We've seen it over every

1491
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 4: bit of his tenure here. And when you have a

1492
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 4: game like you had yesterday, that's a player problem. In

1493
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 4: my opinion, you need to have some guys and maybe,

1494
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 4: and we had one caller say this, and maybe you

1495
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 4: do need some guy, a little few more guys like

1496
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: Steph Diggs. Maybe not exactly like Steph Diggs personality wise,

1497
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: but you need some guys in there that are willing

1498
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 4: to go up and say, hey, listen, we we got

1499
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 4: to this ain't good enough. Now You've got to rattle

1500
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 4: some cages and get some guys inspired. It should come

1501
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 4: from the players, from within the locker room. I've said it,

1502
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 4: and I'll say it again to you, Jack, if you've

1503
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 4: got to If you've got a coach who has to

1504
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 4: fire up his players, you got the wrong players, not

1505
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 4: the wrong coach. Players have to It has to come

1506
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 4: from within the locker room. And you and the chemistry

1507
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 4: in your locker room, and the cohesion in your locker room,

1508
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 4: and the leadership in your locker room has to be

1509
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 4: inspiring to the locker room itself. That's when your team

1510
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 4: is the best. That's what all healthy locker rooms are.

1511
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 6: Like.

1512
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 4: You got good players, you have great players. You have

1513
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 4: emotional players, you have attitude players, you have role players,

1514
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 4: you have elite players. All of those things working together,

1515
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: and some of these guys and and everybody has a

1516
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 4: role to play. Uh, And the locker room has a personality,

1517
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 4: And yesterday the personality was just wasn't there. It was flat.

1518
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 4: You know, they just didn't seem engaged emotionally. And you

1519
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 4: get that way over the course of the week in

1520
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 4: preparation exactly like you do when you play. Well. You know,

1521
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 4: we heard things about you know, some of the young

1522
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 4: guys are going, oh wow, you could tell this was

1523
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 4: Chiefs week last week. Right, that's a real thing. It

1524
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 4: has to be. Hey, this is Dolphins week. Let's go.

1525
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 4: There has to be guys who never get tired of

1526
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: getting up for an opponent, Guys who just natural rights

1527
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 4: who yeah, guys who are the point of the spear

1528
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 4: all the time. And you know some of those those

1529
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 4: guys weren't there this week. They didn't they didn't show

1530
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 4: up this week or whatever. That it just wasn't there

1531
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 4: this week. Right. That's not a coach problem. That's a

1532
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 4: player problem. And you know it's on the players players

1533
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 4: to fix it. That's really right. It's on the players

1534
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 4: to fix it. That's why you have I'm not saying

1535
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna it's not time for that. I mean it's

1536
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 4: not time for players only meetings. And let's get rid

1537
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 4: of the let's get rid of the popa shot.

1538
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: It's about dedicating your approach it that you get paid

1539
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: a lot of money to play.

1540
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about showing up and doing your job, and

1541
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 4: you've got to bring some emotion to it. And that's

1542
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 4: that's a hard thing to police. You know. You can't

1543
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 4: force somebody to run through a flaming furnace, right, Uh.

1544
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 4: They got to want to do it, and that's you know,

1545
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: that's that's I think that's what was lacking in this

1546
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 4: in this game. That's that's maybe the only explanation I've

1547
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 4: seen that fits what we saw on Sunday.

1548
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: To Mark in Orchard Park, what's up? Mark?

1549
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 4: You hear go ahead? Mark?

1550
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 21: Can you hear me?

1551
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, Mark, go ahead, turn your radio off?

1552
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 21: Okay, thank you.

1553
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

1554
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 21: You know, my thing, I got to disagree with some

1555
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 21: of the stuff. You know, I've been a caller, uh,

1556
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 21: you know for a bunch of years, which these guys been.

1557
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 4: On and off.

1558
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 21: Haven't talked to you in a while. My thing is is,

1559
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 21: you know, I watched some things that my son sent

1560
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 21: me clips from yesterday's game, and I'm only specifically talking

1561
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 21: about this game, but Josh Allen missed so many open receivers.

1562
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 21: The receivers have been taking the brunt of not getting

1563
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 21: open when you go on it's called the one pass

1564
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 21: cover one. There were multiple people. Uh, Keon Coleman should

1565
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 21: add three touchdowns. The interception to Knox was terrible. Keon

1566
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 21: was making uh down and down and in and he

1567
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 21: was he had his man beaten. There was nobody there.

1568
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 6: Uh.

1569
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 21: And another play he waving his hands and Shakiro was

1570
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 21: open even then on the outside of him. So you know,

1571
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 21: in Josh's press conference he said he's got to be better,

1572
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 21: and I think he really means that.

1573
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't think there's any question about that.

1574
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 4: Mark.

1575
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: And look, Josh has been off in a few games

1576
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: this year. I don't think there's any question about that.

1577
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: And there were some plays yesterday and I would agree

1578
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 2: with you. If he leads Keyon Coleman down the sideline

1579
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: over his shoulder instead of having a battle with a

1580
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: defensive back for a football, that's a touchdown. He told

1581
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 2: us on the throw that went in Knox's vicinity that

1582
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: was intercepted in the end zone, he said that was

1583
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 2: actually a pass for Tyrrell Shavers, who was running the

1584
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 2: deeper route behind across the back of the end zone.

1585
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: But the problem is it's a cover zero blitz and

1586
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 2: he has to throw off his back foot because the

1587
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: pressure's in his face and he can't get enough on

1588
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: the football. So that's also on the receivers there to

1589
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: recognize it's zero blitz, and maybe I have to break

1590
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 2: my route off and make it shorter to give Josh

1591
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: enough time to at least get me the football. So

1592
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: that goes both ways there. And I'm not saying Josh

1593
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: is blameless. He's not, and he's the first to tell

1594
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 2: you that. It's like I've said many times, he's the

1595
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: most self aware quarterback I've ever been around. And I've

1596
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 2: covered this team for almost thirty years. So you look

1597
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: at that and you made some observations. I would tend

1598
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: to agree with you. There certainly were instances where Josh

1599
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: missed receivers. I think there are times when on a

1600
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 2: gotta have it down, he looks at the guys he

1601
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 2: trusts the most, Kinkaid and Shakir, and sometimes sits on

1602
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: those guys a little too long in the progression, and

1603
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: there are other guys open that he does not hit

1604
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: or see and deliver the football because he wants to

1605
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: give it to a guy he trusts more or has

1606
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: a better rapport with and he's got to readopt the

1607
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: everybody eats mantra. But yes, down the right sideline of Coleman.

1608
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: If he drops it over his shoulder, that might be

1609
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: a touchdown instead of him battling with a dB. He

1610
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 2: had to throw off his back foot, doesn't get it

1611
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 2: to Shavers, it gets intercepted by Melanthonou underneath. So yes,

1612
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: there are instances where he misses throws, but there are

1613
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: also extenuating circumstances in those misses, either pressure in the

1614
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: pocket that he can't step into a throw, or it's

1615
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: just mechanics. But I can tell you right now we

1616
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 2: watch him in here, it's almost every other week he's

1617
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: working with a mechanic throwing mechanics coach to make sure

1618
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: he's accurate.

1619
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 4: If you watch a lot of football and watch other teams,

1620
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 4: it's the same story. Quarterbacks got the ball in his

1621
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: hand every snap on offense and when they drop back,

1622
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 4: or it's a scripted throw to anywhere where he's rolling out,

1623
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 4: play action, drop back, shotgun, under center, whatever it is,

1624
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 4: there's always going to be time where you're gonna sing,

1625
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 4: oh yeah, he should have that guy was open right there,

1626
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: but for the timing of the route, the progression of

1627
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 4: the route. When the quarterback does finally see the guy,

1628
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 4: he's covered up again or whatever. So that's that is

1629
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 4: a common occurrence when after the snap, at any given

1630
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 4: moment during the play, some guy gets open, but the

1631
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 4: quarterbacks either not looking at him or isn't ready to

1632
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 4: throw it. It all has to work in timing. So

1633
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 4: it's not enough just to say, well, if he would

1634
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 4: have let it go right now, he could have fitted

1635
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 4: in there, when of fact, the quarterback is not even

1636
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 4: supposed to be looking to that side of the field.

1637
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 4: There's some of that in every offense as well. It's

1638
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 4: just the way football is. You got eleven, you know,

1639
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 4: twenty two guys running around out there. Five of them

1640
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 4: are trying to get open, and eleven guys are trying

1641
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 4: to cover up the guys that are open or rush

1642
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: the guy with the ball four or five.

1643
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: It's chaos.

1644
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 4: It's chaos, and the timing of it doesn't bring the quarterbacks.

1645
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: You can't know. You can't know until after the ball

1646
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 4: snap and after the plays over about the stuff we

1647
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 4: look at in film over and over again. You can

1648
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 4: see the play run fifty times, and after a first

1649
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 4: five or six you say, well, if he would have

1650
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 4: been looking right here and thrown it right there, he

1651
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 4: could have completed that pass. Well, yeah, but he wasn't

1652
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 4: supposed to even be looking in that direction at that time.

1653
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 4: So all of that kind of goes into the mix.

1654
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 4: That's why it's hard to be a coordinator. It's hard.

1655
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 4: It's hard to be a quarterback. All of that stuff's

1656
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 4: going on on every play, and every quarterback in the

1657
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 4: league will tell you that's the way offense looks on film.

1658
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 4: When you pull it apart and break it down, there's

1659
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 4: always gonna be like, well, if I'd have been looking

1660
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 4: on the opposite direction and thrown it deep instead of short, yes,

1661
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 4: I could have fitted in over the top of the

1662
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 4: defense and if the receiver kept running. And that's the

1663
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 4: frustrating part about football. That's the frustrating part about it.

1664
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 4: There are ways to win in every situation, but because

1665
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 4: of the structure of the play, who's playing defense, what

1666
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 4: you're asked to do on a play, has you doing

1667
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 4: something that is countering two that its counterproductive. That's just

1668
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 4: the way it is.

1669
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: And I'll just wrap this up with this before we

1670
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: go to break here. Despite all the wooda coulda should is,

1671
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: you want to put on Josh for misthrows right now,

1672
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 2: He's got the highest completion percentage in a season of

1673
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: his career. I know they've only played nine games, but

1674
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: he's completing over seventy percent of his passes. His single

1675
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,879
Speaker 2: season career high is in twenty twenty when he completed

1676
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: sixty nine point two. He's better than that right now.

1677
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: So you want to put some plays on Josh, that's fine,

1678
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 2: But he's not the problem. He's not the overriding problem

1679
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: at least as far as I see it. Got to

1680
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: take a break here. More phone calls when we come back,

1681
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: And we also got Andrew Catalan from NFL on CBS,

1682
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 2: called the game in Miami yesterday. We'll catch up with

1683
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: him an hour number three here on a Buffalo Football

1684
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Monday on one Bill's Live Stay.

1685
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 19: With us.

1686
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: Johnson to his left. Here's a snap looking right now, left,

1687
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 2: going deep down the sideline for Coleman, back shoulder, complete

1688
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: reaches for the pylon.

1689
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 3: He's in for the touchdown, Keon Coleman.

1690
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 2: This week's Clean Play of the Week is presented by Tide.

1691
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 2: If it's gotta be clean. It's gotta be tied. That

1692
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: was the thirty five yard touchdown pass from Alan to Coleman.

1693
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: And no one's probably gonna need to clean his pants

1694
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: and his jersey after he dove to the end zone

1695
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: on that green turf, probably had some grass stains.

1696
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 4: And the tide's gonna happen to help himut white paint

1697
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: on the sidelines. But yeah, yeah, there was a couple

1698
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 4: of times when you felt like, even on the one

1699
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 4: where Keon was incomplete, Josh threw it out of bounds

1700
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 4: and Keon beat the guy off the ball and took

1701
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 4: an inside release and then pushed back out and Josh

1702
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 4: threw the ball outside actually out of bounds, and a

1703
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 4: different throw that might have been might have worked. So,

1704
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 4: I you know, that's why they say, you know, long

1705
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 4: balls are low percentage, man, they're just low percentage throws.

1706
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: I knows mode at that point.

1707
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 4: I know it seems like when you see him work,

1708
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 4: that seems easy, but it's not. It's not. It's not

1709
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 4: it's not an easy throw for the QB to make.

1710
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: So Tom in East Rochester, next, what's up Tom?

1711
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 22: Hey, guys, I'm I'm sure we're all frustrated. From yesterday,

1712
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 22: but it's time to move on. I have a question

1713
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 22: about Keon Coleman. I think they're using him wrong on

1714
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 22: the outside all the time. I know Shakira does a

1715
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 22: lot of slams and stuff, but I also think that

1716
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 22: Keon Coleman could be productive, not all the time, but

1717
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 22: once in a while going inside with his big body

1718
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 22: and it'd be a bigger presence and just do a

1719
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 22: lot better job receiving and getting more open.

1720
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, if Dalton Kinkaid is not playing this week because

1721
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: of his hamstring injury, I'm in favor of that. Put

1722
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: him inside. He could be your big target in there.

1723
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 2: We've talked about this with actually Dan or Alowsky, Tom

1724
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: and thanks for the call, and he said, yeah, he

1725
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: had success at Florida State playing in that role. You

1726
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 2: give him a two way go, which gives him, you know,

1727
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: more options to gain separation. If King Kid can't play

1728
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: this week, I wouldn't be opposed to that.

1729
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 4: Well, somebody's got to get the stuff the Kincaid left behind,

1730
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 4: you know, the void. Got to fill that in with

1731
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 4: either Shakir Cook, Coleman, Sanders, I'm sorry, Samuel Palmer, Elijah More.

1732
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 4: Somebody's got to get those targets, you got to throw

1733
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 4: the football. And without Kinkaid, I don't think it's gonna

1734
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 4: just be Dawson Knox because you know, the two tight

1735
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 4: end set is a big part of it. Yeah, it'll

1736
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: be interesting to see what they do with King Kaid

1737
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 4: on the sidelines and what they how they use Coleman. Now,

1738
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: there's got to be some reason why they haven't tried

1739
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 4: that or haven't done it. Maybe they've tried it and

1740
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 4: practice it didn't go well. Maybe they don't like the

1741
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 4: way it looks, or maybe what it doesn't like what

1742
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 4: they they don't like what it does to the rest

1743
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 4: of the roster, Like where's Khalil Shakirir?

1744
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 19: Go?

1745
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 4: If you if you move Coleman inside, Shakier's got to

1746
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 4: do something. And if you have, if you're gonna leave

1747
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 4: Shakir on the field, then you're stuck with two slot

1748
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 4: receivers or a condensed formation. You know that it may

1749
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 4: limit them too much. Who knows why they haven't done it.

1750
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 4: It's it's come up on our show, as Brownie said

1751
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 4: a number of times, and we've you know, bandied about

1752
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 4: and there's some guys like Orlowski and others who liked

1753
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 4: the idea. I don't think it's an exclusive idea that

1754
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 4: we're the only ones who have thought of it, and

1755
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 4: there's got to be a reason for it. I don't

1756
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 4: know what that is, but I'd be willing to listen.

1757
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 4: So you can bet they've got to have some sort

1758
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 4: of play or some evolutionary step they've got to make

1759
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 4: with Kincaid on the sidelines, and it'll be interesting to

1760
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 4: see what it is.

1761
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 2: We have to step aside and take a break here

1762
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: when we begin our number three. We're gonna do it

1763
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: with our friend Andrew Catalan, who calls the games on

1764
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 2: the preseason Bill's television network, but obviously also calls games

1765
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,839
Speaker 2: for the NFL on CBS. He called yesterday's Bill's Dolphins

1766
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 2: matchup with his broadcast partners Charles Davis and Jason mccordy.

1767
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with him next for his thoughts on

1768
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 2: that Week ten matchup next here on One Bill's Live.

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01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calllida.

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01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 2: Help our number three on a Buffalo Football Monday, Chris Brown,

1771
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and pleased to be joined now

1772
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 2: by the man who called the game for the NFL

1773
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: on CBS. It's played by play broadcaster Andrew Catalan, who

1774
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 2: you also might know from Bill's preseason telecasts with Steve Tasker.

1775
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: Uh and Andrew, you got home. I met. I saw

1776
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 2: you on the elevator on the way down to the

1777
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 2: bowels of the stadium after the game last night, and

1778
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 2: he's like, Oh, our flights got canceled, but you found

1779
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: a way out. You got back. You probably did better

1780
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: than a lot of Bills fans yesterday.

1781
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 20: When I saw you in the elevator, Brownie, I was

1782
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,560
Speaker 20: about a ten chance I'd say I was going to

1783
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 20: get home. So this was a huge upset that I'm

1784
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 20: back home in New Jersey and happy to be with

1785
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 20: you guys.

1786
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 4: Well as the second upset. The Bills were heavily favored

1787
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 4: going into Miami, and that we've been talking about it,

1788
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 4: We've been listening to taking calls from listeners. It just

1789
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 4: seems like they were flat, just were not prepared emotionally

1790
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 4: to take on a Dolphins team that had a big

1791
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 4: chip on his shoulder, had little something to prove, and

1792
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 4: really took it to the Bills at every level.

1793
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 20: Yeah, Steve, I used the word gased a lot yesterday.

1794
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 20: With describing the Bills. I mean, whether it was flat,

1795
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 20: whether it was the heat, whether it was the Chiefs win.

1796
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 20: I think it's just a lot of things were against them,

1797
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 20: including injuries, which all teams have. It's not an excuse,

1798
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 20: but I did think you see something that of Miami

1799
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 20: where they may want to keep playing for Mike McDaniel.

1800
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 17: I thought that was.

1801
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 20: One of my takeaways as well, how well they played

1802
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 20: for him. But when you just boil it down to

1803
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 20: the Bills, I thought the game change when Dalton kin

1804
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 20: Kid got hurt. It didn't seem like there was a

1805
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 20: lot of offense after that point. But your broader point

1806
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 20: of a flat performance, I mean, it just looked like

1807
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 20: Josh was laboring out there throughout the game. These drives

1808
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 20: were taken a lot out of him. He had to

1809
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 20: do a lot more than he's had to do the

1810
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 20: past couple of weeks. And it was, yeah, really surprising

1811
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 20: performance by Buffalo.

1812
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: And perhaps, you know, even more eye opening is in

1813
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 2: the locker room after the game. You had veteran players,

1814
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: you know, like Dion Dawkins and Dawson Knox saying they

1815
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 2: just played harder than we did. There were some other

1816
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 2: veteran players that took issue with that and said, look,

1817
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 2: we get paid a lot of money to come out

1818
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 2: every week and lay it on the line, So if

1819
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 2: you're not doing that, there's a problem. This is the

1820
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: second time we've heard players say this after down performances

1821
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: at Atlanta and now at Miami. This seems like a

1822
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 2: player driven issue here that they've got to get corrected

1823
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: going forward.

1824
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 20: Hey, interesting, Chris, it's not the same point. But we

1825
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 20: met with Sean McDermott last week and talked about how

1826
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 20: the culture that he's built has helped maybe overcome some

1827
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 20: of these injuries. This was obviously leading into the Miami game,

1828
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 20: and he called culture an invisible glue and he said

1829
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 20: it's hard to really quantify what culture does, but there

1830
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,839
Speaker 20: is an impact, although each week it may be different,

1831
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 20: and maybe this was the week that glue wasn't really there.

1832
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 20: I mean, it sounds like some of the stuff that

1833
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 20: you're saying and that we saw, they weren't all pulling

1834
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 20: in the same way and sticking together, if you will.

1835
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 20: So I'm not gonna go too crazy on this loss.

1836
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 20: I know it's very disappointing. I look around the AFC.

1837
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 20: I mean, I watched the Ravens play the Vikings. I

1838
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 20: watched that game this morning. I mean, I don't see

1839
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 20: a dominant team out there, but obviously there's a lot

1840
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 20: that Buffalo has to go get right going forward based

1841
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 20: off of yesterday.

1842
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 4: One of the things we've talked about, and in my

1843
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 4: experience as a player, I've said that, you know, if

1844
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 4: you come out like that, like what we're talking about

1845
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 4: the Bills looking like against against the Miami Dolphins, it's

1846
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 4: a player it's a player problem, not a not a

1847
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 4: coaching issue or something like that. Because if and I

1848
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 4: my point has been, if you have to be fired

1849
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 4: up by a coach or a coaching staff, the coaching

1850
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 4: staff's got the wrong players. Players are really responsible for

1851
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 4: their own motivation. They're responsible to be prepared in the

1852
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 4: way that they need to to play their best, and

1853
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 4: if they're not, it starts with them first. Certainly, a

1854
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,959
Speaker 4: coach can be inspiring, and a teammate can be inspiring

1855
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 4: to his fellow teammates or an assistant coach that can

1856
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 4: come from anywhere, but it's up to those players to

1857
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 4: make sure that happens. And in a game like yesterday,

1858
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 4: I there's a lot in that I mean, I've I've

1859
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 4: been a part of really good teams that we're going

1860
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 4: into play really bad teams and looked really bad doing it.

1861
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 4: It's hard to dredge up passion and and really the

1862
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 4: desire to go out and get hurt, be hurt, and

1863
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 4: go through some pain and some discomfort in this game

1864
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 4: for a game you think you should win without doing that,

1865
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 4: That's that's really the crux to the whole issue. And

1866
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 4: that's you know, that's a hard thing to sit here

1867
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 4: on a Monday and say, wow, we we blew an opportunity.

1868
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 20: Yeah, well big time. I mean, look, my point about

1869
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,839
Speaker 20: the Ravens was, I think a lot of these teams

1870
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 20: have these ugly hiccups, and this was the Bills really

1871
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 20: ugly hiccup.

1872
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 17: And I know you've got.

1873
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 20: Atlanta as well. So that's now, that's now two that

1874
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 20: you point to. But I just think that these things

1875
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 20: happen in the course of a season. Should they happen. No,

1876
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 20: I mean, it's there's no excuse for what happened yesterday

1877
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 20: in Miami. But I think that we see that these

1878
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 20: things happen anyway, And now it's how the Bills bounce

1879
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 20: back from that and I know they're going to be

1880
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 20: on the road a bunch coming up, and that's not

1881
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 20: going to be easy because we know they played so

1882
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 20: well at home.

1883
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 6: But I just.

1884
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 20: Feel like this they laid an egg and how they

1885
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 20: respond from it will be more important than in the

1886
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 20: big picture than this just one game, as much as

1887
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 20: it hurts today for a Bills fan on a Monday, how.

1888
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: Do you look, Andrew at the AFC conference now that

1889
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 2: we're midway through it. Obviously, the Colts have been one

1890
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 2: of the most consistent teams, although they won by the

1891
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 2: skin of their teeth yesterday in overtime to improve to

1892
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 2: eight and two. We know Denver has had some hiccups

1893
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 2: on offense, but they are eight and two and the

1894
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 2: Patriots have ripped off, you know, a series of wins here,

1895
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 2: including a nice one over Tampa on the road, the

1896
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 2: defending NFC South champs, But after that, it's largely a

1897
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 2: muddled puzzle here. Halfway through the season. Do you think

1898
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: anybody has the wherewithal to make a surge and maybe

1899
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: catch some of those teams at the top.

1900
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 20: No, I think that's to my point, Chris, that it's

1901
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 20: really just wide open. I mean, I don't see a

1902
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 20: dominant team here on this list at all. I give

1903
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 20: New England a lot of credit. I was with them

1904
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 20: in Foxborough a week ago when they held on to

1905
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 20: beat Atlanta, and I'm impressed by their win yesterday. The

1906
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 20: Colts have figured out ways to win. I watched the

1907
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 20: Denver Raiders game last Thursday. Hey, eight and two is

1908
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 20: eight and two. But are you telling me that these

1909
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 20: teams are going to go out and dominate the rest

1910
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 20: of the way. I think that there's still a lot

1911
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 20: of football left to be played, and that's why from

1912
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 20: a Buffalo perspective, I think they're still right in that mix.

1913
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 20: There's things they have to correct. We've talked about some

1914
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 20: of them already today, and I'm sure the coaches are

1915
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 20: on that with the players. But I don't see a

1916
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 20: dominant team out here in the AFC. And I think

1917
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 20: home field will help, but it's not going to determine

1918
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 20: everything in the playoffs. And I think you can make

1919
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 20: a case for seven eight teams in this graphic here,

1920
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 20: this wild card hunt and playoff hunt that can make

1921
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 20: a case to win the conference. So I still think

1922
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 20: we're all a long ways away.

1923
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as you come down on the stretch, and

1924
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 4: you know, the weather starts to turn. We've we're witnessing

1925
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 4: it here in Buffalo now the weather starts to turn

1926
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 4: to Buffalo has had four or five home games that

1927
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 4: have been spectacularly good weather now not so much. And

1928
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's coming into the building. What are your thoughts about,

1929
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 4: you know, the rest of the way this Buffalo team.

1930
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 4: What would you like to see from this team in

1931
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 4: Buffalo that maybe you've done them a couple of times

1932
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 4: this year. Where do you see their changes and their

1933
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:29,520
Speaker 4: evolution headed.

1934
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 20: Well, I think health has to be one of them.

1935
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 20: I mean, I think that really banged up and we

1936
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 20: saw some of that yesterday. I give cam Lewis a

1937
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 20: lot of credit. I thought he played a great game

1938
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 20: for tarn Johnson. But you know, they're certainly thinn defensively,

1939
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 20: and I think when Kincaid went out, and I mentioned

1940
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 20: it before, there wasn't a lot of offensive options out there.

1941
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 20: And I think these guys have to step up, and

1942
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 20: I think they will. I think there's enough talent here.

1943
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 20: I think we you know, Josh Palmer is a nice

1944
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 20: piece now that's been out three consecut games. I mean

1945
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 20: I think that'll help. They need these guys to step up.

1946
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 20: So I think health is number one. And you know,

1947
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:10,480
Speaker 20: we had that shot yesterday on CBS of Sean McDermott

1948
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 20: pointing to his heart, and I'm not questioning their heart,

1949
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,799
Speaker 20: but I think when you think about these Buffalo teams

1950
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 20: of the past and even earlier this year, that's one

1951
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 20: thing that comes to mind that maybe wasn't on full

1952
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 20: display yesterday, and I think as soon as they get

1953
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 20: back to that, that could go a long way to

1954
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 20: helping this team.

1955
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 2: Andrew, where are you headed this week?

1956
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 20: I've got the Ravens the next two weeks. They play

1957
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,440
Speaker 20: in Cleveland this week and then they're home for the Jets.

1958
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 20: You know, not the same team that the Bills saw

1959
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 20: in Week one. Started one in five, but now they've

1960
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 20: won three in a row. They made a couple of

1961
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 20: trades around the deadline and in that division. Now, with

1962
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 20: Pittsburgh losing last night, they're sitting in a really good spot.

1963
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 20: So curious to see how the Ravens keep putting it together.

1964
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 20: Here coming up against Cleveland on Sunday.

1965
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a game back of the Steelers. Now that's

1966
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 2: crazy to say.

1967
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 4: Well, I guess it. Congratulations in order for getting home

1968
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 4: after look to be. I mean, we've all been there.

1969
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 4: If you travel at all, you know, you see start

1970
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 4: seeing flights get canceled, like, uh now what am I

1971
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 4: gonna do? But hey, congratulates. I'm glad you're home, safe

1972
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 4: and sound.

1973
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:20,600
Speaker 22: I love you.

1974
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 20: How you guys asked me to come on after they

1975
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 20: lose a really disappointing game. I didn't get called after

1976
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 20: the Saints game that I did or any other time,

1977
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:28,839
Speaker 20: just this one.

1978
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll we'll make a note of that for

1979
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: the next time we ask you to hear on the show. Andrew,

1980
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 2: thanks for thanks for thanks for buoying everyone's spirits here

1981
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 2: on the show today. We do it a lot on

1982
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: Mondays after losses, so thanks for partaking in the therapy session.

1983
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 20: We appreciate it now anytime, Love you guys and hope

1984
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 20: to see you soon.

1985
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 2: All right, thank you. It's Andrew Catalan, play by play

1986
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 2: broadcaster for the NFL on CBS. You heard he's gonna

1987
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 2: have Ravens Browns.

1988
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to seek, it's hard to remember and

1989
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 4: hard to convince yourself that other team's problems are worse

1990
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 4: than ours. Right, well, because you're you're this close to it. Yes,

1991
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 4: their injuries, their poor play, their offensive options, they're you know,

1992
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 4: all the things, the problems that we all talk about

1993
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 4: and chew on here day after day. It's hard to

1994
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 4: see other teams that would have bigger problems. But certainly,

1995
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 4: hearing Andrew talk, he's right, everybody's going through it right

1996
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 4: about now. Even if they find finding ways to win,

1997
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 4: it's never easy.

1998
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 2: You had, you had the stat a week or two

1999
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 2: ago that it said every team in the league had

2000
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:40,680
Speaker 2: at least two losses after i think six games or

2001
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 2: seven games for the first time in twenty something years,

2002
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 2: which I think also speaks to what Andrew was talking about,

2003
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 2: which was how muddled a picture it is right now.

2004
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 2: There are no standalone, dominate everybody teams. I mean, the

2005
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 2: Colts won by the skin of their teeth yesterday against

2006
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 2: an Atlanta team. That's what one three or four games.

2007
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yes, so it's it's just the way it

2008
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 4: is right now. Then in overtime, in overtime it was

2009
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 4: in Berlin.

2010
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2011
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 4: So it's so long. Yeah, it's it's a long season.

2012
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 4: We all know it. And sometimes it feels like, even

2013
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 4: in the midst of a good season, it feels like

2014
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 4: man we have no shot here, right. You wake up

2015
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 4: one morning, it's like, ah my god, it's just we're

2016
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 4: just not going to overcome.

2017
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:29,799
Speaker 2: We'll see a lot of football, a lot of football.

2018
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three,

2019
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 2: oh five, fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

2020
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 2: fifty into Bob and Clarence next.

2021
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 5: What you got first, Bob, Well, I have two questions

2022
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 5: to ask. Number One, I thought the game changed in

2023
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 5: two plays. The first place you remember was when it

2024
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,839
Speaker 5: was fourth down and two in the first set of

2025
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 5: of the Buffalo had the ball and Josh wanted to

2026
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 5: go for it, but McDermott called the boss, you're playing

2027
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 5: a last place team. I realize you're in the thirty

2028
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 5: yard of your own thirty yard line, but go forward

2029
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 5: except the precedent and show that this is what we're

2030
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 5: going to do. And the other play that I couldn't

2031
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 5: believe was fourth and one. I think they was in

2032
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 5: the second quarter when Josh threw They called that play

2033
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 5: where he threw the ball instead of going for the push.

2034
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 7: Tush.

2035
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 5: I'm just asking your thoughts and those two plays that

2036
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 5: I thought really changed the course of the game.

2037
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, for yes, I mean, I'm with you.

2038
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 4: I think that might be well. I mean, it's it's

2039
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 4: all good and well and good to do the tush

2040
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 4: push and go forward on that fourth and two on

2041
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 4: your own thirty yard line something. If you don't get it,

2042
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 4: you should have done something else. And on the fourth

2043
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 4: and two play action, same thing. If it doesn't work,

2044
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 4: you should have done something else.

2045
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 2: They had nine guys, ten guys in the box on

2046
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 2: that second one, and Brady says.

2047
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 4: All right, they've never done it.

2048
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's back Josh out of there and throw

2049
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 2: it right. And the Dolphins, to their credit, we're ready

2050
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 2: for it defensively. The first one you just got to

2051
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 2: take away. And look, it sucks that you're in a

2052
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 2: fourth and one, but you're on your own thirty four

2053
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 2: yard line, and you don't as much as you want

2054
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 2: to set the tone on offense, you also don't want

2055
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 2: to give points to Miami and let them get up

2056
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 2: on you. They took the ball on the coin toss,

2057
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 2: you get a pick from Bishop on the fourth play,

2058
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 2: fourth play from scrimmage, and you get the ball back.

2059
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 2: You don't make anything off of that takeaway. And I

2060
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 2: think McDermott's like, look, our defense looks good here at

2061
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 2: the start. Let's kick it away, flip the field, have

2062
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 2: our defense get another stop, and then reassert ourselves on offense.

2063
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's way early in the game to go

2064
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 2: for it on your own thirty four and I have

2065
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:51,600
Speaker 2: a hard time having a problem with that.

2066
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 4: And as to your point is to change in the

2067
01:45:54,920 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 4: course of the game for a minute, it does, but

2068
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 4: you've got fifty or sixty or seventy more opportunity. Yeah,

2069
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 4: you've got fifty or sixty more opportunities to change it

2070
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 4: back if if you need it. And yeah, so it's

2071
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 4: no excuse using a fourth and one play that you

2072
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 4: did not go for in the first half as an

2073
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 4: excuse to the way the rest of that game went.

2074
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 4: Now you can make it, certainly can make a case

2075
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 4: for Sean McDermott sending a message to his team. But

2076
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 4: that message can be taken two ways. One, you're gonna

2077
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 4: go for it and we're gonna get it, and if

2078
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 4: you don't, then what And if you don't go for it,

2079
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 4: you can say, listen, if you want to go for those,

2080
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 4: make some first downs and get into their end and

2081
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 4: then we will go for it. But you're not going

2082
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 4: for it just because you stunk on the first and

2083
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 4: second down of this series, get off the field and

2084
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 4: get it on first and second down or a third down. Well,

2085
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 4: they ran and didn't get it, and yeah, so if

2086
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 4: you want a chance to go for it on fourth down,

2087
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 4: get out of your own end offensively. There's that statement

2088
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 4: as well, So yeah, I get it. For the momentum,

2089
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 4: it felt like I'm kind of with you. I was like,

2090
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 4: oh man, I don't know. That's a hard decision to go,

2091
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 4: but that's you know, as a head coach, you've got

2092
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 4: to have some discipline, and that's probably part of their plan.

2093
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 4: And Brownie's right. That first series was that they took

2094
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 4: the ball out of the coin flip. You're right back

2095
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 4: to there, except you're punting them deep in their own

2096
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 4: end and it's just and you can count it as

2097
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 4: a wash, and that's the worst that could happen, right,

2098
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't have a problem not going forth

2099
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 4: there in your own end. But as for changing the

2100
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 4: course of the game, I mean maybe for two plays,

2101
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 4: but nothing after that.

2102
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And they did pinning back on their own

2103
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 2: eight yard line. Unfortunately, they went all the way down

2104
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 2: the field and scored. Yeah to Kenny and Indiana X.

2105
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 23: What's up Kenny, Hey, guys, thanks for the time today.

2106
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 23: You know, I've got what It's probably going to be

2107
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 23: a controversial take. I'm talking about Josh's fifteen yard carry

2108
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:00,600
Speaker 23: and the ensuing fumble. Now, I don't I do not

2109
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 23: fault Josh for the fumble. I applaud his toughness and

2110
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 23: his heroism. I do not fault the fumble. What I

2111
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 23: find fault with is the officials and by proxy, the league,

2112
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 23: because all you hear is the league saying we're gonna

2113
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 23: protect the quarterback. We're gonna protect the quarterback, and then

2114
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 23: you see it every week with the officials taking care

2115
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 23: of the quarterback. Well, I mean, this is the MVP

2116
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 23: of the league. He's got five defenders on his back,

2117
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 23: chugging for fifteen yards. It took forever. It seemed like

2118
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 23: my wife and I are screaming at the TV. Blow

2119
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 23: the whistle, Blow it dead, don't you blow the whistle there?

2120
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 2: Well, not a forward. Progress isn't stopped, and he's declared

2121
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,959
Speaker 2: himself as a runner. Kenny, He's no longer a quarterback,

2122
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 2: so those protections disappear.

2123
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not rid at Kenny. But that's now, you're

2124
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 4: never gonna get that ever. Ever, you're not gonna get

2125
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 4: that against Tua, a guy who's you know, a China doll. Now,

2126
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 4: if he's chugging along, and I'm and I said it

2127
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 4: earlier in the show, I thought Josh was gonna step

2128
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 4: out of that last tackle and keep going, they're gonna

2129
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 4: have to drag down from behind. So no, his forward

2130
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 4: progress never even hesitated. I mean, that guy was chugging.

2131
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 4: So as you say, as long as he's making forward progress,

2132
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:15,719
Speaker 4: they ain't stopping nothing, whether he's a quarterback or anything anybody.

2133
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no reason for them to blow the

2134
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 4: whistle at any point there. So yeah, I mean I

2135
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 4: get your sentiment, and you're right. We've seen them blow

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01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 4: the thing dead at times when it was a little

2137
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 4: bit early, and we've seen them let it go a

2138
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:32,600
Speaker 4: little long until a guy takes a hit unnecessarily. But

2139
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 4: that's plays probably I think it's I think that's the wrong.

2140
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:39,879
Speaker 4: I think that's the wrong. He'll to die on a massaguation.

2141
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 2: And as I said, once he declares himself as a runner,

2142
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 2: those quarterback protections are out the window. He has a

2143
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 2: ball carrier like everybody else. To Gary in North Collins,

2144
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 2: what's up, Gary.

2145
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 24: I just want to say a couple of words about

2146
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 24: the play calling. I think it's getting staled. It seems

2147
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,799
Speaker 24: every time that secure goes in motion across the street,

2148
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 24: it's the screen from behind the behind the line of scrimmage, okay,

2149
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 24: and in you know he's two yards from the line

2150
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 24: of scrimmage every time he takes off. When is Cook

2151
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 24: going to get the ball down the field instead of

2152
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 24: behind the line of scrimmage? And why can't anybody but

2153
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 24: the tight ends get a catch across the middle?

2154
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see some checkdowns to James Cook yesterday

2155
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 2: underneath over the middle when nobody was opened deep that

2156
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,600
Speaker 2: Josh checked down to. He checked down to Shakira a

2157
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 2: couple of times in the middle of the field. I

2158
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 2: understand what you're saying. It seems like the bigger pass

2159
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,599
Speaker 2: plays only seeping to seem to happen with the tight ends.

2160
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 2: Part of that's because tight ends are on the field

2161
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: a lot in this offense this season, a lot of

2162
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 2: twelve and thirteen personnel with two and three tight ends

2163
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 2: on the field. But I think we saw I think

2164
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 2: that was the that's the most catches in a game

2165
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 2: by James Cook all season, and most of them are

2166
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 2: on checkdowns, granted, but he is down the field. He's

2167
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: not in the flat or somewhere. So I think if

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01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 2: there was any day where there were plays made in

2169
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 2: the middle of the field, Curtis Samuel had one, Khalil

2170
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 2: Shakir had at least one, and Cook had a couple

2171
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 2: of checkdowns. Those are not tight ends.

2172
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 4: Cook had five for twenty four.

2173
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:24,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean deep passes.

2174
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 4: The play calling, it's really it's a hard conversation to

2175
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 4: have to get to the bottom of it because I

2176
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 4: mean we're sitting here and you're saying it's stale, it's predictable,

2177
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 4: and then they do try one thing on a fourth

2178
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 4: and two play action that they've never done before, and

2179
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 4: it's like it looks horrible. Right, So I mean, you

2180
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 4: you do with you go with what you do best. Right.

2181
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 4: That's why James Cook has had the year he had.

2182
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 4: They keep feeding him, they and they put nuances in

2183
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 4: the run game to make it easier for him and

2184
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 4: all that. But you gotta win up front, and you

2185
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 4: got to you gotta do the things that you're best at.

2186
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 4: And if that caused you to be predictable on your

2187
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 4: way to six and three. You might take that. You know,

2188
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 4: you're right. You've got to keep your offense fresh, and

2189
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 4: you got to throw wrinkles into things that you do

2190
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 4: all the time. And then when the defense sells out

2191
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 4: to stop what you do all the time, you've got

2192
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 4: to wrinkle in there that you can hit them for

2193
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 4: a big play. That stuff is commonplace and should be

2194
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 4: done more often. But it's you get into slippery slope

2195
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 4: when you start saying, only the tight ends over the middle,

2196
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 4: and you never see this, and it's only this that

2197
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 4: happens when Shaki goes in motion, and so that's that's

2198
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of a slippery slope. It feels like

2199
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 4: you're predicting it, but it's a little bit less common

2200
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 4: than you might imagine.

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01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 2: Let's go to Leslie in Louisiana or La. What do

2202
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 2: we got here?

2203
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 7: You can say both.

2204
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 25: I have the Louisiana accent, but I'm based in Los Angeles.

2205
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 2: Look at that you do for two.

2206
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 25: I know I know, Gods, thank you so much. So

2207
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 25: I married into the Dolls mafia. My husband has been

2208
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 25: a diehard Dolphan since he was in Worth grade and

2209
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 25: basically the tone of my house. My family really rests

2210
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 25: on how the Bills do every week. I'm sure you

2211
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 25: can relate to that. He is still in a catatonic

2212
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 25: state after the loss of you guys suffered yesterday, which

2213
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 25: is just I mean, it's very fad. I really I

2214
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 25: do love the Bills. I love coming to Buffalo. We're

2215
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 25: coming up this weekend for the game. Hopefully we do

2216
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 25: not have the freezing rain that they're predicting, because I

2217
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 25: don't know if I can handle that. But I wanted

2218
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,799
Speaker 25: to ask you guys about some of the coaching changes

2219
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 25: because that's really what I'm hearing from him, and personally,

2220
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 25: I really think Sean McDermott is a nice man. I

2221
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 25: just I mean, I watched the documentary or whatever it

2222
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 25: was this past year about the training camp. He seems

2223
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 25: like such a nice person. But nice is not really

2224
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 25: cutting it for you guys right now. So I just

2225
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 25: wanted to get your take on who you think may

2226
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 25: make the cut in the head office at the end

2227
01:53:55,040 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 25: of the season. Coach McDermott, Brandon Bean, and I'll end

2228
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 25: with the analogy of how Mark Jackslyn was really good

2229
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 25: with the Warriors, but when they brought in coach Kerr.

2230
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:09,759
Speaker 25: That's when the dynasty started. So thank you so much.

2231
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 25: And I have to mention that my husband always says

2232
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 25: to say that Steve belongs in the Hall of Fame.

2233
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call, Lesley, appreciate it, and

2234
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 2: have a safe trip up here if you don't run

2235
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 2: into any airplane issues.

2236
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 4: The only the only changes or turnover that are going

2237
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 4: to happen in the Bills front office are the ones

2238
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 4: when people are trying to hire guys away from them.

2239
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 2: Basically, at this Brady might be high on that list.

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01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: This is Joe Brady might.

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01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 4: People might not believe it today, but Joe Brady's on

2242
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 4: the list for head coaching candidates. Yeah, things like that

2243
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:44,839
Speaker 4: are happening. That's that's basically. People are are head hunting

2244
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 4: inside the Bills organization try and hire good people away

2245
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 4: from this organization because they want their team to be

2246
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 4: competitive every year. They want their team to be in

2247
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 4: the hunt for the division title every single year. They

2248
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 4: want their team to win a playoff game every single year.

2249
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 4: They want to have their team to have a s

2250
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 4: at the Super Bowl and winning it and just missing

2251
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 4: every single year. Now they think you know, I don't

2252
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 4: want to just miss like the Bills have done over

2253
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 4: the last five or six years. They want their team

2254
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 4: to win it, but they realize they can't unless they

2255
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 4: have a chance at it. And this team has a

2256
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 4: chance at it every year, and other teams covet those

2257
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 4: kind of people who have seen how it's done. I'll

2258
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 4: tell you, And I don't want to get off track here.

2259
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 4: Let me just say this. This is not for nothing.

2260
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 4: And this is a little bit off topic, but I'm

2261
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 4: gonna say anyway because it just occurred to me the

2262
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 4: way they think do things inside this building. And I'm

2263
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 4: not saying it's never gonna happen or never has happened,

2264
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 4: or couldn't happen, because it could. But they've got a

2265
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 4: mental health team in this building that makes sure nobody

2266
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 4: is in a dark place in this building, or at

2267
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 4: least they know what's going on. Some not every team

2268
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 4: in the league has that. He saw evidence of it

2269
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 4: this last weekend. Some teams do not care what their

2270
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:03,839
Speaker 4: players or teammates do away from the facility. It's happened

2271
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 4: far too many times that the Chiefs building has been

2272
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 4: through what the Dallas Cowboys went through this last weekend.

2273
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 4: There are other teams as well who have seen it happen.

2274
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 4: The San Diego Chargers had one of their Hall of

2275
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 4: Fame players take his own life. It's happened to other

2276
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 4: teams who have been in a position where they've had

2277
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 4: players who are just in a dark place. Happened to them,

2278
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 4: what happened to the Dallas Cowboys this weekend. The Bills

2279
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 4: have an entire staff of people who are mental health

2280
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 4: and sports not sports science, mental health professional professionals who

2281
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 4: talk to these guys, who have appointments with these guys,

2282
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 4: who have a regular sit down with these guys to

2283
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 4: make sure they're okay and their families they're okay away

2284
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 4: from the stadium as well as they're okay inside the building.

2285
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 4: That's how they do things in this But that's why

2286
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott and his staff maximize the people in this building,

2287
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 4: the guys on this roster they get the most out

2288
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 4: of because they find out what makes their guys tick.

2289
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 4: They find out where their problems are and help them

2290
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 4: solve them. They put them in an environment to thrive

2291
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 4: where not a lot of other teams do that. They

2292
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 4: go pick, they go pick their ingredients to their team

2293
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 4: off the shelf and then they throw them together hope

2294
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 4: it works. This team knows what the ingredients to their

2295
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 4: ingredients and they do things that maximize those ingredients to

2296
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 4: get the most out of them on the field. This team,

2297
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 4: that's why this team is competitive every single year. They

2298
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 4: know what makes their players tick and they know what

2299
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,920
Speaker 4: makes them not thrive. They know what makes that is

2300
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 4: counterintuitive and counterproductive for their players to thrive, and they

2301
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 4: take it out of that environment. And let's face it,

2302
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 4: in a room in a building where you got three

2303
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 4: hundred people working and seventy of them are the guys

2304
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 4: on the field, some of the seventy guys on that roster,

2305
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 4: some of them are will clash because of this guy

2306
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 4: needs to be challenged and insulted and have his manhood

2307
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 4: challenged and to be disrespected for him to be productive.

2308
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 4: And they got to try and find a way to

2309
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 4: give that player that kind of motivation. While over here

2310
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 4: you've got a guy that needs to have his ego stroked.

2311
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 4: He needs to be rubbed on his tummy. He needs

2312
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 4: to be proven to him that he does belong, that

2313
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 4: we do love him. That's how he thrives. And they're

2314
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 4: given all seventy of these guys, they're trying to give

2315
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 4: him that environment to thrive in, and they do it

2316
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 4: in large measure. They do it. And that's why this

2317
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 4: team filters to the top with what they have to

2318
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 4: work with every single year. And that's why when you

2319
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 4: ask why who's getting fired, who's getting fired? Nobody's getting fired.

2320
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 4: People are getting hired away because they see how that works.

2321
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 4: They see the program from top to bottom that is

2322
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 4: unlike any other. They've got a team in Buffalo where

2323
01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 4: right now it's snowing, and you got teams with beaches

2324
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 4: and big cities and nightlife and and all the stuff

2325
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 4: that goes with all and players around the league want

2326
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 4: to play here because of the environment McDermott and Bean

2327
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 4: have put in place, and Terry Pagoula has supported with

2328
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 4: his checkbook. That's why people don't get fired here. They

2329
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 4: get poached. And I know, on a bad Monday like this,

2330
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 4: where they looked horrible yesterday against a horrible football team

2331
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 4: is hard to hear it, I get it, But I'm

2332
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 4: telling you right now, have some hope because whoever's standing

2333
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 4: on two good pins in the locker room, they're gonna

2334
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 4: give it their all from here on out, because they're

2335
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 4: gonna look back at this game and say, when we stunk,

2336
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 4: I ain't doing that again. That's the way it's wired here.

2337
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 4: So I get it. Man, this is a stinky Monday,

2338
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 4: and our team deserves to get bashed by its fans

2339
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 4: and its opponents and the narrative outside. But let me

2340
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 4: tell you some this is a bounce back building. They

2341
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 4: do a lot, They do a lot of things right,

2342
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 4: and they do them right for the right reasons, and

2343
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 4: people players I'm talking about thrive in it. And maybe

2344
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 4: it's a maybe it's almost a little too good here right. Well,

2345
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:18,520
Speaker 4: games like yesterday give you all the reasons send a

2346
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 4: big message to these guys and they will. They'll get it.

2347
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 4: So all of that goes into that. I didn't mean

2348
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 4: to get off on that topic, but that's that's where

2349
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 4: you're sitting. When those when you're talking about firing this guy,

2350
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 4: firing that guy, Listen, they're teams are hiring people away

2351
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 4: from this building because of the program that is in

2352
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 4: place that is unlike any other. They happen again this

2353
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 4: or wasn't was unlike any other up until the point

2354
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 4: they got hired. Now, other teams are starting to see

2355
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 4: the light, and what happened in Dallas this last weekend

2356
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 4: is tangible evidence of why it's different here and why

2357
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 4: players do come to Buffalo as free agents.

2358
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Speaker 2: Now, with that, we'll take a break more of your

2359
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 2: phone calls when we come back on a Buffalo Football

2360
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 2: Monday here on one. Bill's Live Stay.

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Speaker 19: With us.

2362
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Speaker 2: Qube check In is presented by the University of Wyoming.

2363
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Speaker 2: You're Ready for any field with the University of Wyoming,

2364
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 2: a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. Yesterday,

2365
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,600
Speaker 2: in a pass happy second half to try to climb

2366
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Speaker 2: back into the game twenty eight to forty for three

2367
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 2: hundred and six yards, seventy percent completion, two touchdowns through

2368
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Speaker 2: the air, and a pick. He had a ninety eight

2369
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Speaker 2: to five rating. He also ran for thirty one yards

2370
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Speaker 2: in the game and actually moved into fourth place on

2371
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 2: the team's all time rushing list, passing Joe Cribbs. So

2372
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Speaker 2: there you go. That's your QB checking.

2373
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Speaker 4: It's amazing that maybe one of his that's probably his

2374
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 4: second best statistical day of the year, right, you know,

2375
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,640
Speaker 4: first one being probably Baltimore at the beginning of the season,

2376
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 4: but you know that's that's crazy, man. That's why stats

2377
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 4: don't mean Jack, you know, I mean just you can

2378
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 4: they look.

2379
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Speaker 2: The Monday's Statement of the day. Stats don't mean Jack.

2380
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 4: I mean Josh. You know, at whatever, what are you

2381
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 4: gonna do? Josh comes out and at the end of it,

2382
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 4: if you'd just said before the game, think about it,

2383
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 4: if you said he was twenty eight or forty sevent six,

2384
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 4: two touchdowns and a pick, you think we're gonna win

2385
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 4: that game?

2386
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 2: Converted a fourth and sixteen. That was crazy. Let's get

2387
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 2: back to the phones and to Steve in Virginia. What's

2388
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:37,000
Speaker 2: up Steve?

2389
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 26: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

2390
02:02:40,240 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 4: You bet.

2391
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 6: Hey. I got a question.

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02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 26: How soon can the Bills, like say, for example, like

2393
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 26: this past uh Sunday where we played the Chiefs, Like

2394
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 26: what was as soon as they could get down to

2395
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 26: Miami and start practicing.

2396
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:56,640
Speaker 4: Well, if they had a facility set up and ready

2397
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 4: for him, they could do it. They could fly straight

2398
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 4: from the game. I can do it whenever they've edulate.

2399
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 4: It's not like they would decide at last minute that's

2400
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 4: what they were going to do. They would plan that

2401
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 4: well ahead of time, and they could do it in

2402
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:08,879
Speaker 4: a heartbeat.

2403
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:12,680
Speaker 26: Yeah, okay, because the reason why I'm asking is that

2404
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 26: I've noticed yesterday, I mean, just seeing Josh and a

2405
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 26: lot of the players, they look physically exhausted from the heat,

2406
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 26: and it looked like I mean, obviously the previous one

2407
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 26: where we lost a few years ago. I know, it

2408
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 26: was like incredibly hot. You know, I know from my

2409
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 26: time being in the Marines, like certain times a day,

2410
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 26: like we didn't go out and run just because hey,

2411
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 26: how hot and humid it was. So I was just wondering,

2412
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 26: like you think if something you know, the coach usou

2413
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 26: told do, like, hey, maybe let's try to get there

2414
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 26: a little bit sooner, have the guys get used to

2415
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:45,240
Speaker 26: the heat and humidity. So that way maybe the you know,

2416
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:46,240
Speaker 26: you know, the heat.

2417
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'll say this, There's so much that

2418
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 4: goes into getting ready for it. I think because of

2419
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 4: the logistics, not even the logistics, just the routine that

2420
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 4: guys thrive in. You don't want to go and live

2421
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 4: in a hotel for six days and go through different

2422
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 4: meeting rooms, different setups. Guys have their routines where they

2423
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 4: can watch film on their own, where they can watch

2424
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 4: film with a certain group of guys, and then to

2425
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 4: go down to another to a hotel or a college

2426
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 4: campus or whatever, live there and find a different way

2427
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 4: to do all of that. It would affect your ability

2428
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 4: to prepare as well as you prepare most weeks. Now.

2429
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 4: Certainly they you know they stunk it up yesterday, but

2430
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean you know they weren't they You know

2431
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:32,920
Speaker 4: it was because their routine was disrupted or whatever. But

2432
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 4: you don't want to get out of that routine because

2433
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 4: it's worked right. So I don't think there's too much

2434
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 4: about it that's counterproductive outside of the heat that makes

2435
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 4: you not want to do that. You got, you got

2436
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 4: a huge building full of us. It's fully stabbed, and

2437
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 4: I get you can take your staff down there, but

2438
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:58,960
Speaker 4: they'd be adjusting on the fly as well. There's just

2439
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:01,160
Speaker 4: so much that goes in to it morning, noon and

2440
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 4: night that I don't think you'd get the benefit out

2441
02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:07,840
Speaker 4: of it that you would just flying home, being here,

2442
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 4: getting up and doing your stuff, get and then flying home.

2443
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 4: And in fact, if it were me, if that was

2444
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 4: your case, I would fly in as late as possible

2445
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:21,160
Speaker 4: for the game rather than early as possible, because you

2446
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 4: get late, your body kind of takes over and say

2447
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 4: let's go just go in fly fly there, get a

2448
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:30,280
Speaker 4: quick sleep, get up and play the game would be

2449
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,160
Speaker 4: a better way to do it rather than going earlier

2450
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 4: and earlier, because I think it's the disruption of all

2451
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:39,840
Speaker 4: your other preparation would supersede any hydration and rest you

2452
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 4: would get by being there.

2453
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,880
Speaker 2: To Jim in Florida, next, what's up, Jim?

2454
02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 14: Hey, thanks for calling. I had one really irritating situation

2455
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,560
Speaker 14: I think during that game, amongst others, but the one

2456
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 14: that bothered me the most was the decision at at

2457
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:06,480
Speaker 14: the end of the first half with the Bills had

2458
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 14: someone was twenty five or thirty seconds left and they

2459
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 14: just haded to kneel down. I remember losing the game

2460
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 14: with a team that they gave a quarterback thirteen seconds

2461
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 14: and they did real good. I was really disappointed. I

2462
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 14: don't understand why you wouldn't use every second to try

2463
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 14: to score as much as you could. So that's that

2464
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 14: was the main It really disturbed me because there was

2465
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 14: a decision that it just says that we're not going

2466
02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:36,760
Speaker 14: to score or something.

2467
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the end of the third quarter, no,

2468
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:41,920
Speaker 2: of the of the first half.

2469
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 16: Well, at the end of the first half.

2470
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty three seconds left, Ty Johnson to you know,

2471
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson runs off right tackle for two yards and

2472
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:54,240
Speaker 2: gets tackled with twenty something seconds left. He didn't get

2473
02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 2: the first down, So right, it's fourth and three and

2474
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 2: you're on your own twenty seven yard line.

2475
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 4: If you run a play and you don't get the

2476
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:06,680
Speaker 4: first down, Miami comes on the field, on the field

2477
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:09,640
Speaker 4: kicks a field goal. Now it's nineteen nineteen nothing.

2478
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 2: That's why.

2479
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they knelt down so that they didn't take

2480
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 4: a chance on not getting the fourth down conversion and

2481
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 4: giving Miami points. That's that's the reason. And I get

2482
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 4: what you're saying. You're right, but in a normal situation,

2483
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 4: if they weren't in field goal range, they probably there's

2484
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 4: no question they would have gone for it because they've

2485
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,480
Speaker 4: been historically, they're very good in the last two minutes

2486
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 4: of the first half. But yesterday when they couldn't get

2487
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,280
Speaker 4: it on a again on a third and short, it's

2488
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,400
Speaker 4: the third and five, they were wrong for two yards.

2489
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:44,560
Speaker 4: They were zero for six at halftime yesterday on third down,

2490
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 4: oh for six.

2491
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 2: I think they're just like five for fifteen.

2492
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 4: Five for fifteen, and they they was not going well

2493
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 4: for them, so they did not have any faith and

2494
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:57,840
Speaker 4: rightfully so, that they were going to.

2495
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:01,440
Speaker 2: Go one of one on fourth or let alone get

2496
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 2: too let alone get in field goal range, they'd have

2497
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 2: to run like another play maybe even after that. Right,

2498
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:08,400
Speaker 2: So I hustle up there.

2499
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 4: I get it what you're saying, but that at that

2500
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 4: spot on the field, on that point in the game,

2501
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 4: I don't I can't get upset about it. I know

2502
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 4: you are, and you you I get it. Everything was

2503
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 4: disgusting about that moment in the game. We were we

2504
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 4: were all looking for the remote at halftime of that game.

2505
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 2: First time they were shut out in thirty six games.

2506
02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:30,560
Speaker 4: Right, So I get what you're saying. I get where

2507
02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:34,280
Speaker 4: you're saying, Jim from Florida, But yeah, I'm enough to

2508
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,640
Speaker 4: take a deep breath, and you understand why to get.

2509
02:08:37,560 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 2: It to Jeff in New Jersey before the break. What's up, Jeff, Hey.

2510
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 17: Joe on first time caller, Thanks for thanks for the opportunity.

2511
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 17: I actually grew up in Buffalo Amherst and we've been gone.

2512
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 17: I was twelve a huge Bills fan. Three boys all

2513
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:58,680
Speaker 17: die hard Bills fans, and I've done quite a bit

2514
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:01,880
Speaker 17: of coaching in the past, still at different levels. But

2515
02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 17: this team, I mean, obviously we have a salary cap

2516
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 17: issue beyond belief, but you look at our linebackers. If

2517
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 17: we're going to play a if the Bills are going

2518
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 17: to play a team that has a good running back,

2519
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 17: Let's take the Eagles, say Kwon Barkley, the Colts, these teams,

2520
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:20,680
Speaker 17: how are they going to stop the run? Milano looks

2521
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:23,839
Speaker 17: like he's on roller skates. He can't separate from blocks.

2522
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:27,800
Speaker 17: Bernard appears to be way too small. I mean, if

2523
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 17: they're going to win a Super Bowl, they got to

2524
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 17: stop the run. Even though Lions had a heck of

2525
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 17: a running game. So what are they going to do

2526
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 17: about linebackings and wide receivers a whole nother story. I mean,

2527
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 17: clearly not getting preparation. When's Palmer going to come back?

2528
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 17: If he's even the man, they can't. They got to

2529
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 17: They have to have a deep thread. I mean, poor

2530
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:49,440
Speaker 17: Josh Allen, I mean he does not have a receiver

2531
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 17: to throw to period. Do something with these salary Milano's

2532
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 17: I think, let's see may third Knox. I think he's

2533
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:58,240
Speaker 17: the second highest big player of.

2534
02:09:58,280 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 3: The team, and he.

2535
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 17: It looks like he'll get some playing time. But that's

2536
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:04,800
Speaker 17: you know, I could talk for hours. I appreciate you guys.

2537
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing. I'll just say that at the linebacker position,

2538
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 2: you got who you got. Maybe Shaq Thompson gets back

2539
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 2: from his hamstring injury this week and he's a little

2540
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 2: bit more of a stout run defender, maybe the stoutest

2541
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 2: of the bunch, so that would help if he can

2542
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 2: get back in the lineup, particularly on base defense. And

2543
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:26,600
Speaker 2: then with respect to the rest of the crew, you

2544
02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:30,520
Speaker 2: got who you got. The Cavalry's not coming this year. Now.

2545
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 2: I will say this, it's a very good linebacker draft

2546
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:36,520
Speaker 2: this year, and I would be inclined to think they're

2547
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:39,400
Speaker 2: going to draft at least one. Matt Milano's a free

2548
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 2: agent after this year, and maybe with him no longer here,

2549
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 2: maybe you transitioned to El Bernard to the weak side

2550
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 2: and draft the middle linebacker who is more stout and

2551
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:52,000
Speaker 2: can hold up better in there against the run.

2552
02:10:52,120 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 4: I'm just spitballing here, but you mentioned Malon's contract.

2553
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's a free agent.

2554
02:10:56,360 --> 02:11:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, there's something to that, I guess, particularly

2555
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 4: when you're talking about run defense. It starts at the

2556
02:11:02,600 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 4: d line and goes right to the linebackers. They've got

2557
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 4: to make they've got to be there. I'm and I

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Speaker 4: get it to the getting on board with a wide

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Speaker 4: receiver train and all that. It's Josh Palmer. I think

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Speaker 4: Josh Palmer will make a difference, but he was very

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Speaker 4: close this week. I think he's a problem. The problem

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Speaker 4: is now Josh Palmer's back, but King Kaid is not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's been the entire story of this regular

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Speaker 4: season so far for the base on both sides of

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Speaker 4: the ball, particularly with this everybody eats mentality on offense.

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Speaker 4: You start losing guys out of it. Now. On one hand,

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Speaker 4: it's like, well, okay, just plug another guy in. I get,

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Speaker 4: but man, oh man, you need the guys you want

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Speaker 4: to line up to be able to line up health wise,

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Speaker 4: and they have not done that at all. Not as

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Speaker 4: bad as the defensive line has been, but still the

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Speaker 4: wide receivers have been you know, Elijah Moore, Joshua Palmer

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Speaker 4: have been in and out. Now Kin Kaid's been in

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Speaker 4: and out. It's and it's one thing after another on

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Speaker 4: that side of the ball, and it's frustrating that there's

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Speaker 4: no excuse for because the offense has continued to play

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Speaker 4: at whatever level it had yesterday. Notwithstanding they've been a

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Speaker 4: really good offense even so, but if you're looking for

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Speaker 4: the reasons they struggle at any given point, that's the

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Speaker 4: first place my eyes go to is who's in and

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Speaker 4: out of the lineup.

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Speaker 2: Now, we got to take a break, but we'll close

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Speaker 2: it up with one more segment here, see if we

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Speaker 2: can get some thoughts on the tweetsheet. Next on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Back here on One Bill's Live on a

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Football Monday, there is an update. There's a report

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Speaker 2: from Jordan Shultz, NFL reporter that Bill's tight end Dalton

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Speaker 2: Kincaid is considered weak to week with his hamstring injury

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Speaker 2: suffered on Sunday against the Dolphins. That's really no surprise.

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Speaker 2: We'll be hearing from head coach Sean McDermott in about

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Speaker 2: an hour from now at his Monday press conference. You'll

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Speaker 2: be able to catch that on Buffalo bills dot com

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Speaker 2: or on the Bill's social channels where they will stream

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Speaker 2: it for you and they'll presumably give an update on that.

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Speaker 2: And truthfully, most hamstring injuries, even if mild and severity,

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Speaker 2: usually take a week. Usually miss A Gay had hamstray

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Speaker 2: had it on film.

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Speaker 4: On the broadcast, they showed Kincaid pulling up on it,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, in my non expert opinion and strictly uninformed opinion,

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Speaker 4: he played this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Most most hamstring injuries take at least a week,

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Speaker 2: sometimes longer if they're more severe.

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Speaker 4: Unless he caught it, unless he caught it before it

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Speaker 4: really went and they just said no, I don't try it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's just a minor strain, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of doubt that though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know, we plow our way into week eleven.

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Speaker 2: But some final thoughts on the tweets sheet here. This

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Speaker 2: one from Bill says, this game shows how much Josh

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Speaker 2: needs a true number one receiver. The everybody eats approach

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Speaker 2: is not working, especially since they have too many guys

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Speaker 2: who are basically the same and all slot receivers with

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Speaker 2: Josh going to Kincaid when healthy all the time. That

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Speaker 2: tells me a true number one is needed. And then

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Speaker 2: Dean says they didn't run the sweep that was virtually

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Speaker 2: unstoppable the last two games, tried to force runs inside

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Speaker 2: same thing they did last week, and Casey adjusted and

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Speaker 2: stopped it and yeah, twetch sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Football Monday is over. We'll be back on Tuesday show.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be out of quick Fill on location on

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Speaker 2: Camp Road, so check us out out there. Dan Orlovsky

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Speaker 2: on the show tomorrow