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Speaker 1: All right, hello again everybody, and welcome to Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kickoff live here on Giants dot Com. The number, as

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Speaker 1: always is too oh one nine four five one three.

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Speaker 1: I am Russ Salzburg today, joined by PAULI Dots Paul

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Speaker 1: de Tino, and let me start off right away. Paul

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Speaker 1: with a question for you, a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: trivia question. Okay, what is the significance of December eighteen,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen? Wow? Do do? Do? Do? Do?

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Speaker 1: I was not ready for this. I know you weren't.

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Speaker 1: That's why I am laid it on yet. So that

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Speaker 1: would be two years ago. What is the significance of

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Speaker 1: December two thousand and sixteen sixteen? Okay, so this is

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Speaker 1: eighteen seventeen sixteen. The Giants were eleven and five that

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Speaker 1: year made the playoffs. Would that have been the date

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Speaker 1: they clinched a playoff spot? No, it was the date

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Speaker 1: they had one a second game in a row. They

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Speaker 1: have not won a second game in a row since then,

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Speaker 1: and they are gonna try to do that this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Well, think about it. They didn't

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Speaker 1: win two games in a row last season, did they? No?

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Speaker 1: So there you go. That's sad. Be happy, No, you

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Speaker 1: just be st started the show with a down a row. No,

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Speaker 1: I'd end up. They're going for the second winning a

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Speaker 1: row this week. You should be happy. Everybody saw you

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Speaker 1: doing an Irish jig out in the hallway today for

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Speaker 1: crying out loud. The atmosphere is better in here. You

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Speaker 1: think a black cloud has been lifted everybody, folks, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you everybody has a little more pepper. Their getting up.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has a jump in their step. Players, the organization,

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Speaker 1: and listen, when you're losing a bunch of games in

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Speaker 1: a row, for lack of a better term, it sucks.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's miserable and you can see the attitude now you

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Speaker 1: know you know what they say, Uh PAULI, you know

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Speaker 1: that old baseball say, Yeah, your momentum is only as

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Speaker 1: good as your next game starting pitching. But we don't

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Speaker 1: have starting pitching. But if you want to keep some momentum, now,

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Speaker 1: you're at home, so win a game at home when

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Speaker 1: your first game of the seasons. You see my mental

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Speaker 1: coach Pat Schumer has adopted the same philosophy. When the

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Speaker 1: Giants came back from the bye week. Okay, he told

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Speaker 1: his players following the victory the other day, when when

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Speaker 1: that in reality they're want to oh, because he said,

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Speaker 1: this is the first win of our eight game season.

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Speaker 1: They flushed the one in seven out the door. That's gone.

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Speaker 1: The one in seven does not exist. There's nothing they

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Speaker 1: is a horrible memory, but it's gone. And what coach

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Speaker 1: Schumer wants his guys to do philosophically, and he told

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. We are one and all. It's

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Speaker 1: an eight game season, okay, one and all. Let's focus

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Speaker 1: on now beating Tampa Bay. And you know, I think

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Speaker 1: from a psychological and emotional perspective, Ross that's the best

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Speaker 1: thing they could possibly do, because if you keep thinking that, oh,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, the team is two and seven, we're in

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Speaker 1: do that. That's a great way to just bury yourself. Well,

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Speaker 1: can't obviously you know his star player. But in right

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Speaker 1: away he did. That was because I'll tell you I

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Speaker 1: that's right, when we looked at each other, what's your goal?

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Speaker 1: What's your goal of Odell for the second half of

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Speaker 1: the season. And he looked at you know, not incredulous Lee,

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Speaker 1: but but like he said, to win all eight games.

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Speaker 1: And and to me, I just thought that was the

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Speaker 1: The second half of the season, and I'd be lying

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Speaker 1: if I told you, yes, I don't expect them to

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Speaker 1: Pat Sherman. He coaches every game to win. That's why

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Speaker 1: the misery and the dark cloud that everyone in this

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Speaker 1: the players. When you drive up to enter the gate,

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Speaker 1: the whole attitude is different. You could feel it. It

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Speaker 1: is tangible. As much as you, as fans don't like

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Speaker 1: just absolutely giddy about winning that game. So I stayed up,

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Speaker 1: And you did a good job with your interviews on

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Speaker 1: That's how the enthusiastic they were about them, and the

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Speaker 1: locker room was just bubbling over. Now why do I

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Speaker 1: Gentleman says, you know, I love players who want to win,

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Speaker 1: but I really want players who hate to lose. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. The the atmosphere and the emotion

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Speaker 1: this team wants to win games without question. The comment

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Speaker 1: that you just made about Gettleman, Yeah, you want guys

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Speaker 1: That goes in line. I'll never forget. In fact, we

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Speaker 1: former Gihant film mcconcky once said to me, he says,

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Speaker 1: you know, Russ, you know why players rejoice so much

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Speaker 1: I'm also watching him do something else. He commiserates with

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Speaker 1: So you know what bottom line is this, When they win,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot easier to talk about these things

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Speaker 1: great place to win, it's the best, but it's got

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Speaker 1: awful terrible to lose. And when you're losing this the

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Giants are coming off a very

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Speaker 1: and now that they gotta move forward. Just before we

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Speaker 1: throughout the season. Two oh one nine, five one three

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Speaker 1: with Russ and PAULI dots today. Hi Ross, Paul, thanks

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Speaker 1: for taking my call off. He appreciate it. I'll make

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Speaker 1: in every team. Ain't no one throwing a perfect game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have them through where they're are.

428
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Speaker 1: But there's didn't worried me a little bit because I'm

429
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Speaker 1: not at the practice. I don't see him, and that

430
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: did worry me. And he had he looked like he

431
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: still one that was short behind um, behind um Barkley

432
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: down the flat, not in the flat. He was on

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Speaker 1: the sideline on a wheel route. I remember that play, Marvin,

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Speaker 1: and and that's what I think. I did not talk

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Speaker 1: to say Quan about that play. I did interview him

436
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Speaker 1: after the game, but I did not have a chance

437
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Speaker 1: to ask him about the wheel route. I thought that

438
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a back shoulder throw where Barkley

439
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: was supposed to stop that route, run the guy off,

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00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: and then come back and make the catch. Because there

441
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: was tight coverage going down field, and the truth of

442
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: the matter was, if you watch the play, I don't

443
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: know if you remember it, Russ, it was down the

444
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: right sidelines. The Giants were going down him. It was

445
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: in front of the sec niners bench. And the truth

446
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: of the matter was, if that was a go, there

447
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: was no room to get that ball in there because

448
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: the defender had actually run bark so close to the sideline,

449
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: it would have taken more than a miraculous throw as

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00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: he had he looped it and and tried to hit

451
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: the receiver. I really believe that that was the wrong route.

452
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: That's my hunch. I will try to figure that out

453
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Speaker 1: if if I can get that for you, Marvin, I

454
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: think it was the right route, but you might be right.

455
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: It might have been something whether he was gonna do

456
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: a fade. He didn't have room, but the defender was

457
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: sort of even on top of him. He was, and

458
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: I think might have thought the defenders on top then

459
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: I got a back showder fade. You and Barkley didn't

460
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Speaker 1: look for the back showder. That's what it looked like

461
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: what I would have preferred, to be honest with you,

462
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think based on the way Barkley ran the

463
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Speaker 1: route and where the defender was. I didn't think it

464
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: was a completeable pass. I almost were the rather Eli

465
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: just thrown that away. To be perfectly frank, I can't

466
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Speaker 1: agree with that. I can't agree with that. And there

467
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: was another uh two month late. There were the play

468
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Speaker 1: the one I talked about where Ingram went along the

469
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Speaker 1: sideline um and that too man the drill And sometimes

470
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Speaker 1: I noticed when he had some drops. But I don't

471
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: know if you watch his hands and where his thumbs

472
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: are compared to when you're catching the ball. Your thumbs

473
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: gotta be positioned certain ways depending on how the ball is,

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Speaker 1: I mean to you. And I noticed, and I noticed

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Speaker 1: it in his rookie year, and I noticed this quite

476
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Speaker 1: a bit. He grabbed at the ball, and I think

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Speaker 1: that causes this drop sometimes instead of some times where

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Speaker 1: the ball is thrown to you. If you watch O'Dell,

479
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Speaker 1: and I'm not comparing the two, but O'Dell, I'm using

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Speaker 1: him because of the way he uses his hands. He's

481
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Speaker 1: the ball in O'Dell hands, but when he catches it,

482
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Speaker 1: it sits in the dance. But Coach, you're talking about

483
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Speaker 1: a guy who can take a football in his hand

484
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Speaker 1: and make it look like a marble. Right, that's right,

485
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Speaker 1: That's what I said. I hated using ocell as a staffle.

486
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Speaker 1: And when we're teaching, we teach them all the same

487
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Speaker 1: and we're teaching them depending on how the ball is

488
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: coming to you wear the positions of your hands right

489
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: to throw the ball. And he grabbed at that ball.

490
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: And I see him do that where if you go

491
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Speaker 1: back and look at the tapers on the site, you

492
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: go back and look at that place, watch his hand

493
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Speaker 1: when he grabbed at the ball. He made the catch,

494
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Speaker 1: but I think that causes him from drop that time. Interesting. Alright, coach,

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00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: appreciate it, buddy, Thank you. Okay, thank you, coach. Marvin.

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Speaker 1: Good caller from Ala always all right. Two O one

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Speaker 1: five one three is the number. Let's go to our

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Speaker 1: friend in Canton, New York. Dylan. Hello again, Dylan. You're

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Speaker 1: on with Russ and PAULI dots today. Are you good? Afternoon? Guys?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Dell? Uh? Well? I called yesterday. I spoke

501
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: to Russ and Uh. I remember you were talking about

502
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Speaker 1: some of the comments that um I think Booger said

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Speaker 1: yesterday and stuff like that. I watched yesterday. I was

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Speaker 1: watching first take, because I normally watched all the sports

505
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: shows you know, host Giants game just to hear analysis

506
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: and stuff. Unfortunately you've got to hear a lot of smoke. Yeah.

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00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Well I heard Max Kellerman. He was going on, you know,

508
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Speaker 1: and I know he's a Giants fan as well, but

509
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: um he was he called the Giants a joke of

510
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: a franchise, which really want me, well, you want to

511
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: know what, I'm sorry? God finished, and then I'll have

512
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: what to say about that, okay. And then um, he

513
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: was talking about, you know, the Giants winning meaningless games

514
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: and you know, towards the end of the season, and um,

515
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: they were hurting their draft draft capital, which personally I

516
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: totally disagree with because saying you know, and I know

517
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: fans say it too, they want the Giants to tank

518
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: to get a high draft pick. But if Max and

519
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: all these Giants fans have filed the Giants for as

520
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: long as they can remember, you know, the Giants never

521
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: quit and they never tank. That's just something that they

522
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: don't do. They'll never do. The Giants are want of

523
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: classist organizations. Um. And I think any sport, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: and I follow a lot of sports, and I think

525
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: the Giants and one of the classiest organizations, and to

526
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: say to the players they need to tank, they need

527
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: to you know, well, whatever it's it's disrespectful to not

528
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: only the players but the coaches because they're here to

529
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Speaker 1: win games. Well, let me just say this, Okay, you

530
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: bring up a sore point with me, because, uh, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: Max Kellerman could tell everybody he's a great Giants fan.

532
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, as far as I'm concern, that's a load

533
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: of crap. And the reason I say that, and I

534
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: don't spend time watching first Dake because a lot of

535
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: times I'm here, I'm doing other things, so I'm not

536
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: watching it. But he did a thing a few weeks back. Uh,

537
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: and he was on with Stephen A. Smith, and you know,

538
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith kind of looked at him incredulous. Lee

539
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: he was first of all, he was saying, you gotta

540
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: get Eli Manning out of that. Eli Manning stinks. You

541
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: gotta bring in a dynamic I'm at quarterback. They got

542
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: to sign Colin Kaepernick right away. Don't tell me that

543
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: this guy is a good Giants fan, because quite frankly,

544
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: he don't know the difference between his rare end and

545
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: his elbow when it comes to the giant business. Dylan,

546
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this real simple for you, and I

547
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: don't want to attack Max or anybody else, but I'm

548
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this very very simple for you. If

549
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: you really want to have a better understanding as to

550
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 1: what's going on with the team and and what their

551
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: attitude is, then listen to people who are here all

552
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: the time. Don't listen to these TV and radio folks

553
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: or some of these columnists who have never set foot

554
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: on the property, who have never watched a practice, okay,

555
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: who have no idea what it's like to stand on

556
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: the sideline and look at Pat Shermer as he's running

557
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: running the drills with these guys, Okay. Listen to the

558
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: guys who a are here, who be don't have interest

559
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: in clickbait numbers okay, because that, of course is a

560
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: significant problem. And then see the other thing is if

561
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: you want to listen to someone like Brian Baldinger, who

562
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: proves to you every single time he's on the air

563
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: that he has spent hours in the caverns of NFL

564
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: films dissecting tape and will show you that tape on

565
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: his Twitter and on his NFL dot Com. Listen to

566
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Phil Simms. When when Phil Sims talking Sims another guy

567
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: that he studies tape all the time, he doesn't pull

568
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: it out of his rare end. He knows what he's

569
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: talking about, not because he's an ex player, because because

570
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: there are a lot of ex players who don't study.

571
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: He studies. So that's the point, Dylan, listen to those guys.

572
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Don't pay any attention to the folks who we either

573
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: have clickbaited as an agenda or who aren't even here

574
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: because they don't know anything. You know, Dylan, you know,

575
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: Max is there for one reason. Let me throw something

576
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: out there, let me stir the pot and create controversy. Okay,

577
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: And that's just what no coincidence that, you know, he

578
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: and Booga work for the same operation, and Booger was

579
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: doing a same thing on Monday night, which quite frankly,

580
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: that whole cast was doing the same thing. The whole

581
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: crew was doing the same thing, uh on Monday. You

582
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: know that. And one of the callers yesterday brought up

583
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: it's something he was saying it that's on the producer,

584
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: because it seems like they came in with an agenda.

585
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: They weren't they were talking about get him in this,

586
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: and I mean, you are analyzing the game. He's going

587
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: into some nonsense about Eli not book or not Eli

588
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: getting into the Hall of fame he or I don't

589
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: think he's a hall of fame. It's Dylan. Dylan. Just

590
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: be selective and who you pay attention to and how

591
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: you formulate your opinions. That's all I'm trying to tell you.

592
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not gonna name names and insult

593
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: certain people, but I think you could pretty much kind

594
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: of discern who the people are who really know what's

595
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: going on because their eyewitnesses to it, they see it,

596
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: and they hear it all the time, as opposed to

597
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: those who are not. That's all. Do yourself a favor.

598
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Do that, and then you won't have to deal with

599
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: this garbage. Yep. That's why I tuned into you guys

600
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: all season long, all the shows. Everything I watch you

601
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: guys is uh, you know, even if it's short video clips,

602
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: I always tune in. And you know, because I think

603
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: you guys analysis is the best and it's always reliable

604
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: and everything like that. We all just fans appreciate it

605
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. The last comment I want to make

606
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: is you know, like I said, this is their jobs.

607
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, they're here for a reason. And I think

608
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: in this situation with adversity, it separates the men from

609
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: the boys. And you know it's as a coach. If

610
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: I was coaching, you know, I would want my players

611
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: to step up in this type of adversity, and we

612
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: want to prove people wrong. You know. Either way, the Giants,

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00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, at the point that they're going, they're gonna

614
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: have at least a top ten, top fifteen draft picks,

615
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: so they're still gonna have opportunity, and you know they're

616
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: they'll have somebody come in. And Gettleman's very smart with

617
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: the draft. We had right now four players out of

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00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: this previous draft that it made a media contribution. So

619
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: I believe in Gettleman no matter where from this year, Dylan,

620
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: is one thing to remember as you go. I want

621
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: to say it very very succinctly. If you are not

622
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

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00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: So you better show that you're part of the solution

624
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: now because there may not be your tomorrow. Yep. Have

625
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: a good day, all right, Dylan, Thanks for calling buddy,

626
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: as always call again, two oh one four five one

627
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: three is the number. Let me just before we continue on,

628
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: let me just read something which is quite important, especially

629
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Speaker 1: if you plan on coming to the game Sunday, when

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Speaker 1: the Giants face the Bucks. Giants will host the annual

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00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: food Drive at MetLife Stadium Sunday. So again, if you

632
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: are coming to the game, please make sure to bring

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00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: canned or nonperishable food items and donate them into collection

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00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: bins that's gonna be located at all of your stadium

635
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: entry gates, not one, but all of them. All contributions

636
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: are gonna be donated to the Food Bank for New

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00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: York City for distribution to local partner charities in the area.

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644
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Speaker 1: I mean, as as far as I'm concerned, I mean,

645
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: he brought up something and you know what, some weeks back,

646
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring it up, and I didn't bring

647
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: it up on the air because I didn't want to

648
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: give him any h publicity on it. But since still

649
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: and brought up Max Calluman and then he's saying he

650
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: was at it again today. I mean the way he

651
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: was going at Eli. Manny, Eli stinks. Eli's which you

652
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: shut up? You know really and like you say, you're right.

653
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's easy to to be a big

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00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: tough guy from a distance. Okay, show up in a

655
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: locker room. You're done early. Show up in a locker

656
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: room once in a while. You know, let's let's see

657
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: what's going on. You know, DoLS boddy to their face

658
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: that they stink. Well, it's like Coach Marvin said he

659
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: saw underthrown long ball by Eli the other night and

660
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: he was a little bit worried about it. Well, I

661
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: can tell you we see Eli throw fifty and sixty

662
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: yard bombs in practice all the time with plenty of mustard.

663
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: So you know, if you're here and you see it, great.

664
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm a big Yankees fan. I don't hide that.

665
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm a you Yankees fan. Do I have any clue

666
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: about the dynamic in the Yankees locker room. Do I

667
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: have any understanding as to what Aaron Boone's relationship is

668
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: with his players? No, I don't. Therefore I'm not going

669
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Speaker 1: to opine about it. It's not my place to do so,

670
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: nor is it any place of these other people who

671
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: want to rip and shred different parts of this organization

672
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: or this roster. And they've never been to a practice.

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Speaker 1: Two oh one, nine, four or five one three is

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Speaker 1: the number I concur with you, my friend. But now

675
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: let's go down to South Carolina poorly and check in

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Speaker 1: with Steve. Steve, hello again, you're on with Russ and

677
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: twenty dots today. Yeah, hey, Tay, Paul talking all right.

678
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: What I want to do is really kind of people

679
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: address the team. That's the idea of panking, drafting all

680
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: the other stuff. What really you have to look at

681
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: just live within the season and deal with how this

682
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: team progresses and where I'm coming back. As I moved

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00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: to um D C and eight one, and that was

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00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the year that an offensive coordinator from San Diego became

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00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: the head coach and everyone was complaining about it, and

686
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: that was Joe Gibbs. I was thinking tokins with the

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00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: Giants earlier. Go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, he lost his

688
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: first five games with with with the Redskins that year,

689
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: and they wanted his dad and they think the thing

690
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: was a mess. Then they went eight and three, and

691
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Speaker 1: then the following year they went to the super Bowl.

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00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying we're going to the super Bowl

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00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: next year, but I am saying as the dynamics of

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00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: the team starts to improve and keep working wars this year,

695
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: and as you build up that team spirit and camaraderie

696
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: what we're now seeing here and it's definitely different than

697
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: last year, we are going to see a better team.

698
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: We've been blown out in really only one game, and

699
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: that was the Philadelphia game. Every other game was competitive, Steve,

700
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter of getting a system together, getting the right

701
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: people together that everyone feels good about, and let's start

702
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: to see the results. I think we should have a

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00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: winning season from this, this eight game season that that

704
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer keeps talking about. I totally agree with you

705
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: and Steve. It is counterproductive for them to lose a

706
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: ton of games and get a higher draft pick. Because yes,

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00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: you get the higher draft pick, that's true, but you

708
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: haven't built anything with within your roster, well, your locker rule,

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: and that loss out weighs any gain and draft choice

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00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: that you make, and one thing you really you also

711
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: haven't built when you're doing that. If you first of all,

712
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: football is a different beast, Steve, and I'm sure you

713
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: understand as being a sports fan, football is a different beast.

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00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: Then let's say basketball. Because one difference about football when

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Speaker 1: people talk about tanking. But the other thing about football

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Speaker 1: it's a physical, violent game. Guys get beat up in practice,

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00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: they get beat up on Sundays. And you know, tanking

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00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: is one thing tanking in such a violent atmosphere you

719
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Speaker 1: want to talk about killing morale, that's a good way

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Speaker 1: to do it. No Like, to me, I couldn't agree

721
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Speaker 1: with you more, Steve. I mean you've you've heard us

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00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: that Paulie and myself say at time and time again.

723
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Speaker 1: I mean that that tanking nonsense is a bunch of crap,

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Speaker 1: and anybody who says that, quite frankly to me, doesn't

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00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: have a clue of what they're talking about. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: the only one other point I'd like to make for

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00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: everyone here, and I'm reinferating what you're saying, is that, um,

728
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Speaker 1: you know, understanding, I've only been listening to you guys

729
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: for about a year now and picking you up on

730
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: the internet and doing that, and Um, the thing I

731
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: appreciate about you, both the host and the audience is

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Speaker 1: actually I think there's a higher level discussion here than

733
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: I ever hear on most sports sports shows on here.

734
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: So I think I think the audience needs to be

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Speaker 1: proud of itself, and I really appreciate the insight that

736
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Speaker 1: you do give us on here and a little bit

737
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Speaker 1: on that inside of what the team is going through

738
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Speaker 1: and how they're feeling and how the morale is changing. Well,

739
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: we certainly try, We appreciate, appreciate it. Buddy, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. You're good. He's done. Steve has done. Thank you, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Thank you to one. Three is the number. Let's now

742
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Speaker 1: go to p a Pennsylvania check in with Steve. Steve,

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Paully Dots today. Jeff, excuse me, Jeff,

744
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: you're on with Poull Dots today. Hey, guys, thanks for

745
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: taking my call, call, first time call. Appreciate the show,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everything you do. Where are you. We're in Pennsylvania, Buddy, Shippensburg, Shippensburg, Okay,

747
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: what do you got for it? South Central? Uh? Just

748
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: the piggyback on doing stuff and you guys are talking

749
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Speaker 1: about them around. I know you guys have the field

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Speaker 1: of the locker room, and I trust me, I feel

751
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: great about to win on Monday night. It was awesome.

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00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: But after the game was over, we were sitting on

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Speaker 1: the couch. My wife looked at me and she said, hey,

754
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: we finally got to win, and she said, you don't

755
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: look like you're too happy about it, and I'm like, oh,

756
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Speaker 1: I'm happy about it, but we all know it was

757
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, we fought in the trenches, but it wasn't

758
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Speaker 1: the prettiest win of of a football game, and there

759
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: were definitely some down things, But it looked like on

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00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: the sidelines until we finally won the game, there was

761
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Speaker 1: a time when they showed past Shermer's faith. Uh you

762
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: know we had the two penalties on the kickoff or

763
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: turns the kickoff out of bound. It just looked like

764
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: his face was a drained and said, how what do

765
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Speaker 1: I have to do to get this turned around? And

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Speaker 1: I know that they finally did it and won a game,

767
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: and is it great, But it just seemed like after

768
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: the bye they had such high expectations, then it looked

769
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Speaker 1: like it wasn't going to go the way that they

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Speaker 1: wanted it to go. Well, how does the feel in

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Speaker 1: the locker room and the players and the coach. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to say, you're off base, Jeff,

773
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Speaker 1: because that would not be fair. He's part of the

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00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: problem with any TV situation. And these guys are always on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the spotlight is always on them. If they

776
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: blow their nose, it's on them. If they snicker at something,

777
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: if they make a sarcastic look. They're caught on everything.

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00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: And sometimes that just doesn't tell the whole story. It's

779
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: the same thing sometimes, you know, I remember years gone

780
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: by in different situations, a team maybe a team he's

781
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: getting smacked, and you they'll they'll catch somebody on the

782
00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: sideline laughing or sitting on the bench and then or automatically,

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00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, like the guy is convicted of not caring,

784
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: and that's not true. Like somebody something could have happened,

785
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: some some small, innocuous nothing, a meaningless thing could have happened.

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Speaker 1: You caught him with a smile, and he doesn't care. Yeah,

787
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Speaker 1: I I listen quite frankly when um the second half

788
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: started and uh Aldrick Roses, who's having a great season,

789
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: kicked that ball out of bounds. You want to know

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Speaker 1: what if you looked at me sitting on my couch,

791
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Speaker 1: I was making the same face that Pat Shermer was.

792
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: He was disgusted and and you saw Sherman say something

793
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Speaker 1: to him and that was it. Yeah, they were all

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Speaker 1: p old So yeah, I mean, I mean a little

795
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: facial expression of looking Listen, you won in seven, and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Sherman has done a marvelous job.

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Speaker 1: The excuse me two and seven now, but Sherman has

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Speaker 1: done a marvelous job of keeping out locker room up

799
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Speaker 1: guys continuing to fight. There no factions in there. So

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Speaker 1: what you catch for a facial expression is one thing.

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00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: The bottom line is are they together? And they are so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand your point, Jeff, but don't read

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Speaker 1: into some of that facial stuff on us. So it's

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00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: the same thing, listen. I remember it's classic. Phil Simms

805
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: got into it with Parcels. Well, no, this was this

806
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: was later because you know this this was after okay,

807
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: and um they were arguing something about it and somebody

808
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: said to Bill afterwards, you know what was that all about,

809
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: because ron Erhard Fargo was also involved in it, who

810
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: was the UH coordinator. And you know, Bill turns around

811
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Speaker 1: and says, well, finally, with a few f bombs thrown in,

812
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: I had to tell everybody sh shut, to shut the

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Speaker 1: people up, because you know what they're arguing today. They're

814
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Speaker 1: arguing about this, and it's the second quarter, and before

815
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Speaker 1: we know it, if this continues, it's gonna be the

816
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: next game's first quarter. You know. So what you capture

817
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: on a sideline sometimes it is just not the way

818
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Speaker 1: it seems. Yeah, if I can assure you from being

819
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: on that sideline the entire night, that team was fully

820
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Speaker 1: engaged from start to finish. And that is a credit

821
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Speaker 1: to coach Shermer and and the other leaders on that team,

822
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Speaker 1: including Odell Beckham Jr. If you've heard earlier in the

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Speaker 1: program the way I talked about how he congratulated the

824
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Speaker 1: offensive line for giving Eli protection on his first touchdown catch,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I can't remember the last

826
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Speaker 1: time I was down there on the sideline and I

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Speaker 1: saw a wide receiver be so animated in his congratulations

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Speaker 1: to an offensive Lindon I I can't remember the last

829
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Speaker 1: time I saw that, You know, Jeff, since you're bringing

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Speaker 1: up you know, you know Sherman on the sideline, I'll

831
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Speaker 1: tell you what the best reaction to Sherman on the

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Speaker 1: sideline was. After Eli through the touchdown pass. I don't

833
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: know if you caught it, and he was coming off

834
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Speaker 1: the field and he gave a real hug and it

835
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: was a short, sweet affectionate basically saying, you know, my quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That was terrific. You know it was funny too when

837
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Speaker 1: Eli came off the field, I I I left the

838
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: field with him and Shepherd as they were finally coming

839
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Speaker 1: off the field to go to the locker room. And

840
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: you should have seen the fans cheering for Eli and

841
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: Shepherd at the tunnel as the Giants were hiding off

842
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: to their locker. Ryant fans who made the trip, they

843
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: were absolutely enthralled with what Eli Manning had just done,

844
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: the magic of his fourth quarter comeback victory. And it's

845
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: like if you were just taken a video of that,

846
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Speaker 1: if you had seen that snapshot, you would never know

847
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Speaker 1: about the mog, and I use that term literally, the

848
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: smog that has been around this New York City metropolitan

849
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: area of those people who want to rip this quarterback

850
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: to shreds. Yeah, unfortunately, thank you, Jeff, Thank you, Jeff. Now,

851
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: all right before I go, I just hope that you guys,

852
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, that was great and uh good reporting back

853
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: because I think that's what the fans need to hear.

854
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: We need to be in support of this team. And

855
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: I hope it carries over this weekend when we cut,

856
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: when we bring it home. All right, Jeff, thank you, buddy,

857
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You talking about smog and this is no

858
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: joke and matter that situation out in California, just just God,

859
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: all those people I can't even imagine, and God bless

860
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: them all. And I hope every one of them finds

861
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: a way to get through this tragedy because it is

862
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: rough and and I will tell you this, Rosby in there,

863
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: you couldn't look more than two blocks without seeing some

864
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: type of of like onion paper haze and your vision,

865
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: because there was definitely residue of that small over the stadium,

866
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: and you could smell it and you could almost taste

867
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: today after a while. Well to watch to watch the

868
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: video and the pictures on TV, I mean, it looks

869
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: looks like a movie set. It looks like it looks

870
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: like one of those action movies. It's crazy. Uh, hopefully

871
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: at times ahead for all those people it's heartbreaking. Two

872
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: oh one nine four, five one three is the number

873
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania. Let's go nearby here in se Caucus and

874
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: check in with James. Hello James, you're on with Russ

875
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: and Pauli Dotts. James, Hello, James going once, James going twice.

876
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: James sold out in Caucus to a one nine three,

877
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: nine four or five one three is the number. Uh,

878
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: We'll take this time then, to remind you folks that

879
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live here is presented again by Corps Light.

880
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: Download the cores Light Rewards app to win yourself amazing

881
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: Giants prizes throughout this season. Will also take a little

882
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: advantage now, Pauli. Just to remind the people again, Giants

883
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: are gonna be hosting their annual food drive at MetLife

884
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: Stadium this coming Sunday when they take on the Bucks.

885
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: If you're coming too the game, please please please bring

886
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: candy or non perishable food items and donate them into

887
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: the collection bins that you're gonna see located at all,

888
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: not one, but all of the stadium entry gates. All

889
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: contributions will be donated to the Food Bank for New

890
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: York City for distribution to local partner charities in the area.

891
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: So for more information or you gotta do is visit

892
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: Giants dot com. Please do that, folks, because every year

893
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: the Giants not only have a food drive for those

894
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: less fortunate, they also have a coach drive where you know,

895
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: if you have new or gently used coachs that you're

896
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: not gonna be using for the winter, there are folks

897
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: throughout the metropolitan area who could badly use some warmth,

898
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: and they do that. And then, of course, for it

899
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: seems like thirty years now rush the Toys for Tots program,

900
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: which which I'm really a big supporter of. I think

901
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: every child there in the holiday should have the opportunity

902
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: to open a gift. Uh, please support these Giants charitable

903
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: programs down the end part of the season, if you're

904
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: coming out to the stadium, always go to Giants dot com.

905
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: Find out the details of which charity or which organization

906
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: is part of the Giants um a deal that day

907
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: and see what you can do about just bringing something

908
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: because it's always a worthwhile cause. Well said Paul two

909
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: four or five one three the number. Let's go down

910
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: in North Carolina and check in with Phil. Hello, fail,

911
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Paul Dots. Yes, Hi guys. Uh,

912
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: let's see. I wanted to before you get into the

913
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: free agent sign and I talked to Paul about this

914
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: in the past. Uh, just a couple of things on

915
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: the special team in the last game. I'm almost getting

916
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: to the point where I say, on every punt or

917
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: or kickoff, if it's in the uh, if it's a kickoff,

918
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: it's in the end zone, just just take it out

919
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: to you know, just put your hand up and take

920
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: it out to the because the amount of poling penalties

921
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: we're getting is ridiculous. The penalties are rough. I will

922
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: tell you though. Corey Coleman did a really nice job

923
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: on kick returns the other night, and I'm kind of

924
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: excited and I think they are too, to see what

925
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: more you can do what they're excited not just about that,

926
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: but he also made a big catch on a third

927
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: down play as a receiver. Well well, yeah, I mean

928
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: he's fine. It's the other guys, right, the other components.

929
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: So so that was that's the question. So but anyway,

930
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: um and and the last thing about this game was,

931
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, Hockeley Jr. Is kind of like his old

932
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: man and that he enjoys. He thinks he's the focus

933
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: of the game with all the penalties and not the

934
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: not the game itself, you know. So uh, but so

935
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: I thought a lot of the calls were tiki tech

936
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: on both sides, not just you know, but I thought

937
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: there was some tiki techs the other way too. So, um,

938
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: the free agents. I talked to you about Devin Canal

939
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, he was I can't see

940
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: how Martin is an upgrade over him, and and and

941
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: so far Devin is playing well and he's a good player.

942
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: And so now I'm gonna pick on another one, uh,

943
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Andrew Adams. And um, you know how they think Riley

944
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: is better than Andrew Adams, I just don't see it.

945
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: So my question to specifically the prawlers, you know, for practices,

946
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: it did Riley look that much better than Adams for

947
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: for them to pick Rally over Adams. I mean, Adams

948
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: is a good tackler. So I just I just it

949
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: just baffles me why that was the decision made. Well,

950
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: here here's what the Giants evaluated. They looked at Andrew

951
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Adams and they said, he's much more of a box

952
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: safety or a strong safety than he is a free safety. Therefore,

953
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: he'd be better off backing up Collins than starting at

954
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: the free safety spot next to him. Uh. They looked

955
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: at Riley and they said, Okay, he's got cover skills

956
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: of a corner, because you know he's he's been a

957
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: corner of this league before. They looked at his speed,

958
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: and they liked his speed. They figured he could cover

959
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: more ground back there. And then they said that his smarts.

960
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: Apparently during the preseason he did a much better job

961
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: on picking up the plays and the coverages and helping

962
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: to line guys up back there in the secondary. And

963
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: for those three reasons, they decided to go with Curtis Riley. Now,

964
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: I would say this to you, I think if you

965
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: strictly look at the production that Andrew Adams gave to

966
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: the Giants when he started here compared to what Curtis

967
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: Riley has put on tape this season, I think Andrew

968
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Adams outweighs what Curtis Riley did. I would not argue

969
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: that at all. I think you're absolutely correct. But given

970
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: if you want to turn back the calendar. Why they

971
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: made the decision that they made. They felt that Riley

972
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: was a better fit as a true free safety. Now,

973
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: I think I think we would both agree they're gonna

974
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: look to upgrade that spot during going into the next year.

975
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: Would you not think so? Oh? Absolutely? That's you know

976
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: what I was thinking about the draft to day, really

977
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: free the safety. You think safety, uh, pass rushers on defense,

978
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: and you think offensive lineman uh on offense, and those

979
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: are the needs. But you know, it's it's almost like

980
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: the fact that, Okay, Riley kind of fits some of

981
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: these boxes. It's almost like going to the combine. You

982
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: go to the combine, you check things off. Someone's fast,

983
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: you check them off. Oh, he should be ideal for this. Well,

984
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: you're not looking at the tape. And that's what I

985
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: would say, is you're not you know, with Riley and Adams,

986
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: you're not looking at the tape. You know Adams clearly,

987
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: yes he can't play box, but he did a better

988
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: job than Riley as when he was as a free safety.

989
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, the shame of it is they tried four

990
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: different guys next to Collins at free safety during training camp,

991
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: and nobody sees the job honestly to be to be

992
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: frank with your us, nobody was heading shoulders above the

993
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: rest during training camp and during the preseason, and that's

994
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: why ultimately they just sudded, Okay, let's look at the checklist.

995
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: Who's got the skills that meet the checklist? And that's

996
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: why they went with Riley Paul. We got five minutes

997
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: here and feeling about this, He's mine. The illness. It

998
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: wasn't right. I can't believe me, the jokes. I am happy.

999
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: Wa he's hovering old from Portland, Maine. Charlie, Charlie, Charlie,

1000
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: put or not. JPP is coming to town. You know,

1001
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: he a lot. He's looking for some sacks. Now, did

1002
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: he go up again? Solder? You broke up on us there.

1003
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that clearly, Charlie. So does JPP go

1004
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: up against Soldier on the on that side? Yeah? Good, good.

1005
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm glad because I think Soldier will do a good job.

1006
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: And you know, Soldier had like a ninety two point

1007
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: whatever was a Pro football focus grade. I mean, the

1008
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: guy was just totally you know, and I think he's

1009
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: been injury. He had a neck injury, and the guys

1010
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: have been gutting it out and he didn't come in

1011
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: a lineup. I had to have something to do with

1012
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: his performant. Well, listen to Charlie here. Charlie's defending the

1013
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: Giants offensive line. He's being positive about the offensive line. Boy,

1014
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: oh boy, it must be the holiday season. Charlie. We

1015
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: got rid of all the other guys that I couldn't stand,

1016
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: so you know it was good. Yeah. Which, by the way,

1017
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: before we got on the air today, uh, Bully brought

1018
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: out to me that Patrick omame A has gone to

1019
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: the same place that Derik Flowers has gone um to

1020
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. No, the Jaguars resigned him today. We signed

1021
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: him today. Yeah, I know, I know, not unbelievable injuries,

1022
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: that's why. That's the only reason. Yeah, well that's what happened.

1023
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: But what did you think of Jamal Brown? Come on, Charlie,

1024
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: I thought he was great. I mean, um, and we

1025
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: were played so much better they're having that guy next

1026
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: to him. Even we had a good grade. So I

1027
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: know we didn't go up against you know, a juggernaut

1028
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: defensive pass ruts. But still, I mean, hey, Rush, you know,

1029
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: it's like we want to know we're not two and seven.

1030
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: That's why, you know, Charlie. I don't know if you

1031
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: just tuned in, but Paulie was bringing that out, and

1032
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: that's what Sherman told the guys. We can't do anything

1033
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: about the one and seven. We got eight games to go.

1034
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: We are now playing in eight game season and right

1035
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: now he said exactly what you just said, Charlie. They

1036
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: all want to know exactly. And we got seven more

1037
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: to go and the last game of the year, we're

1038
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna be playing Dallas at home for the divisional championship.

1039
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Charlie, Charlie, what a difference this guy. You

1040
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: give a guy a little help on the offensive line,

1041
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: and Charlie is happy as a picket slot for crying

1042
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: out loud, give you time. He wasn't. We weren't able

1043
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: to give him the line he needs the last four

1044
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: or five years, because the guy still has it. And

1045
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm excited to watch el A go out

1046
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: if he's gonna go out on a high note. So thanks,

1047
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, you know, and you know what, listen,

1048
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: we got a minute. We're just gonna wrap things up here.

1049
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: But don't be so sure. I'm not saying that Charlie

1050
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: is saying that folks don't be so sure Eli is

1051
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: going any place. This is not inside information. I don't

1052
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: have insight information. Paulie doesn't have insight information on this.

1053
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: Just watch for yourselves over these next eight games. You know,

1054
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure an assessment is going to be made. But

1055
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: like I was reading someplace today where somebody said, even

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Speaker 1: if you get another comeback victory or something, it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: change the Giants plans. That's like an insinuation that the

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Speaker 1: Giants plans have already been made for the Giants next

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Speaker 1: season as to go in another the direction, and that

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Speaker 1: is a load of bull. That is not the case.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly what the Giants plans are. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna ascertain what is going to be over these final

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Speaker 1: seven games of the season. Anyway, right now, for Paul Dots,

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Speaker 1: I'm Ross Salzburg, are buddy manning the controls. Dave Dominic,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being part of Big Blue Live here

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Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com. Go Big Blue this Sunday against

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and I will see you again

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Speaker 1: back here next Tuesday.