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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, lots of news in

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Speaker 1: crypto today. Greyscale Investments filed publicly for an IPO. It's

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Speaker 1: the latest crypto link company to test public markets under

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Speaker 1: an administration. More open to digital assets from more on

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Speaker 1: crypto and bitcoin and bitcoin mining specifically joining us now

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Speaker 1: and name familiar to our audience, Eric Trump is the

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Speaker 1: co founder and chief strategy officer of American Bitcoin. It's

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Speaker 1: a publicly traded bitcoin mining and treasury company. It's got

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Speaker 1: a market cap around four point four billion dollars. The

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Speaker 1: company started trading on the NASDAC back on September third,

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Speaker 1: when it merged with a microcap shares. It a high

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Speaker 1: on September ninth. They're down around forty seven percent since then. Eric,

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Speaker 1: of course, also the executive vice president of the Trump Organization.

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Speaker 1: He joins us from Florida. Eric, good to have you

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Speaker 1: on the program again. How are you God, It's great

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Speaker 1: to be on. So if somebody wants exposure to bitcoin,

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Speaker 1: why would they do that through American Bitcoin rather than

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Speaker 1: just buying bitcoin outright on an exchange or even through

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Speaker 1: an ETF.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you go out and you buy bitcoin

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Speaker 3: on ETF or you buy it on an exchange, you

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Speaker 3: kind of have one to one bitcoin. Right. You go

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Speaker 3: out and you buy one bitcoin, you're always going to

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Speaker 3: have one bitcoin. Our entire ethos is increasing bitcoin per share.

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Speaker 3: Right now, every day we're mining bitcoin, we're mining bitcoint

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Speaker 3: at roughly fifty percent of spot prices of bitcoin, so

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Speaker 3: roughly about fifty six thousand dollars per bitcoin. That's what

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Speaker 3: we're able to mine at. We're able to mind because

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Speaker 3: we have the best facilities anywhere on Earth. We've got

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Speaker 3: some of the cheapest energy anywhere on Earth. We do

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Speaker 3: right now, our average costs to produce a bitcoin is

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Speaker 3: roughly fifty six thousand dollars and we're mining bitcoin twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours a day, seven days a week. By doing that,

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Speaker 3: you're able to increase bitcoin per share, right And that's

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Speaker 3: the ultimate metric that we chase every single day. How

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Speaker 3: do you increase the amount of bitcoin you have per

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Speaker 3: do that clearly. If you go buy on a one

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Speaker 3: And that's the one metric that we track every single day,

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Speaker 3: and that's the one metric that we try and improve

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Speaker 2: And we've done a healing job, guys, I mean we you.

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Speaker 3: Know, this public was founded on March thirteenth, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: March thirty first, roughly five months later, five months and

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Speaker 3: been listed, and we're already well for past four thousand

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Speaker 3: bitcoin that have either mined or that we've accumulated, making

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Speaker 3: us the twenty fifth largest BTC public treasury company in

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Speaker 3: every single day. So I couldn't be more proud of

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Speaker 3: what we've been able to accomplish. And you know, everything

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Speaker 3: for less than three months and growing, you know, growing

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the cheapest source of energy in mining that bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: Last time we spoke back in September, we had a

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Speaker 1: discussion about wind energy that that powers some of this mining.

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Speaker 1: Is it still wind that's powering the mining operations for

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Speaker 3: But certainly when there was a defunct wind farm, you know,

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Speaker 3: unbelievable renewable energy that we're using to mine our our bitcoin.

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Speaker 3: But you're gonna see a lot of other energy sources.

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Speaker 3: Come on. I mean, we're on the the energy revolution

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Speaker 3: policies are working. Look at these SMRs. Look at you

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Speaker 4: Well well well, well well wait a minute, Eric, because SMRs,

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Speaker 4: Let me just jump in there, because we've done a

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Speaker 4: deep analysis into the cost of electricity in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Electricity cost to pen far more on where you're located,

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Speaker 4: curious what you're paying per megawat an hour in Houston

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Speaker 3: Caroly, you can't be serious, and honestly, I don't want

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Speaker 2: It's not what I came here to do. I've got

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Speaker 3: You had the last administration that had the greatest war

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Speaker 3: You had an administration that was literally shutting down boiling

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Speaker 3: They were cutting every pipeline, they were stopping every pipeline

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Speaker 3: country the lights of which you've never seen before. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're one hundred percent correlated. The lower your energy costs

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Speaker 3: We have to win the war on cryptocurrency. We have

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Speaker 3: these for a national security.

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Speaker 2: We have to win these.

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Speaker 3: Because we're the United States of America and we're the

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Speaker 3: We need energy generation, and my father is hell bent

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Speaker 3: of getting that through every single form, whether it's natural gas,

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Speaker 3: please don't talk to me about affordability. When you had

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Speaker 4: Erica, I respect your position and opinion on this, but

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Speaker 4: to your company because on mining, we learned today that bitfarms,

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Speaker 4: it's one of the largest cryptocurrency miners, set it plans

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Speaker 4: We continue to see that a growing list of bitcoin

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Speaker 3: Do you have any.

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Speaker 4: Plans for American bitcoin to pivot away from bitcoin mining

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Speaker 3: Now the exact opposite. We're only going to ramp up.

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Speaker 3: We're going to ramp up every single day. I mean, Carol,

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Speaker 2: And this is this coming.

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Speaker 4: Bitcoin is up this year by about five percent, the

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just do you want to reverse hold on, Carol?

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Speaker 4: I had a diper smartly have gone up.

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Speaker 3: On average of about seventy percent a year year over

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Speaker 3: I'm saying is, if you invested in BTC two years

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Speaker 3: If you made invested in BTC five years ago, you

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Speaker 2: Infinite amounts of money.

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Speaker 3: Right, BTC has been probably the highest performing asset of

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Speaker 3: the last decade. Right. And now also with BTC comes volatility,

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Speaker 3: Volatility is something that should be harnessed, right, and so

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Speaker 3: I think bitcoin is going to continue to massively overperform

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Speaker 3: the markets. Of course, you're going to have draw downs, right,

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Speaker 2: You're going to have draw downs and things.

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Speaker 3: That's life. Now, look at the historical performance of an asset,

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Speaker 4: Totally understand markets the ups and downs, and sometimes the

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Speaker 4: No, I understand what you're saying. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: You understand why?

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Speaker 4: Understand why we ask it?

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Speaker 3: we're a twenty fifth largest public bitcoin treasury company on

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Speaker 3: all the lists, and we're sending that list very quickly.

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Speaker 3: We just passed you and I very good friends of ours,

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Speaker 2: And it seems like every day we're kind of climbing

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Speaker 3: I think we're doing it well. I think we're doing

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Speaker 3: which mendus heart and soul. I think we're doing it

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Speaker 3: film rapic to this country. And you know, we need

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Speaker 3: financial revolution. Bigcoin is clearly leading that charge right now

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Speaker 3: based on market cap and and I'm very very proud

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Speaker 4: I'm sure all that financial execs too like this probably

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Speaker 4: at us. Hey, Eric, thank you so much, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: We went around and around, and I'm glad we were

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Speaker 4: able to cover a lot of ground. Eric Trump, co founder,

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Speaker 4: of the Trump Organization, joining us there in Florida,