Speaker 1: What's up everyone on Tory Deal And I'm Anissa Ferira
Speaker 1: and this is MTV's official challenge podcast.
Speaker 2: Anissa this episode, take a seat.
Speaker 1: Take a seat, dude, take a fucking seat. I can't
Speaker 1: it was good. It All Stars never ever disappoints.
Speaker 2: No, it really doesn't.
Speaker 3: The only thing that I found disappointing was, you know,
Speaker 3: Brad running the wrong direction and fucking up the challenge again.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like to talk about that later,
Speaker 1: but sure, yes, I mean this this musical Chairs in
Speaker 1: the Stadium. I feel like whenever there's a stadium, some
Speaker 1: shit's about to go down.
Speaker 3: It just like when you look at a stadium and
Speaker 3: you're there, Like it's already exhausting to think about getting
Speaker 3: from one side of the stadium.
Speaker 2: To the other.
Speaker 3: Now they're playing a game where you literally have to
Speaker 3: dart across the entire thing, and like we've all been
Speaker 3: in stadiums before, most likely, like you know how tight
Speaker 3: those seats are and how badly your knees hurt when
Speaker 3: they're pressed up against them. Now you to bulldoze people
Speaker 3: out of the way, but we're seeing people get tossed
Speaker 3: all around the place. Cam gets pushed to the bottom,
Speaker 3: she gets up, shakes it off for Veronica gets pushed.
Speaker 2: I mean like it is a it's a straight up
Speaker 2: musical chair brawl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that we see new winners this time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Ace was on the first All
Speaker 1: Stars and maybe was that the only one or did
Speaker 1: he go on another one?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 1: I know I had an early departure. I feel like
Speaker 1: he's a little bit more at home here and then
Speaker 1: he gets this win with Nicole. I'd like to see
Speaker 1: new winners. I like to see how things are gonna
Speaker 1: shake down. Who's gonna be in the middle group, who's
Speaker 1: going to be in the losing group.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I love that we get to see Leroy and
Speaker 1: Cam as a partnership and see how they work together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was really actually shocked because like that first group,
Speaker 3: if you were part of the winners, then you got
Speaker 3: a thirty second bonus, and you most likely assumed that
Speaker 3: all of those players were going to make it into
Speaker 3: the middle group or even the winning group.
Speaker 2: But Adam and Flora pushed through.
Speaker 3: They were in the losing group the first time, and
Speaker 3: then they made it into the mid grou So I
Speaker 3: really enjoyed that they still fought their way out of
Speaker 3: that position that they were in.
Speaker 2: And like you said, the fact that Ace and Nicole
Speaker 2: one was so nice.
Speaker 3: Especially because Kara didn't want to work with Ace on.
Speaker 1: This one, I know, right, Like I kind of love that.
Speaker 1: It really goes to show you never know, you never know, dude,
Speaker 1: and like you don't want to count Ace out. Ace
Speaker 1: is obviously somebody who like he just seems like a
Speaker 1: great guy.
Speaker 2: I follow him on Instagram.
Speaker 3: He's always posting the sweetest things about animals, Like he's
Speaker 3: such a good dude, cares about the environment, and like,
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 2: That he got his win today and he got a
Speaker 2: good start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also happy that there's this middle group. I
Speaker 1: love that, like there are clear cut winners and then
Speaker 1: like you still have a shot to like be safe, yeah,
Speaker 1: which I'm really into.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, this episode got spicy, and I think like
Speaker 3: we had all been kind of anticipating what's gonna happen
Speaker 3: with this beef between Jasmine and Kara, and now you
Speaker 3: can see like the tides have really turned and Jasmine
Speaker 3: has become you know, a target and car in the
Speaker 3: middle group, and she has this amazing sway on everybody.
Speaker 3: What did you think when you were watching her communicate
Speaker 3: with everybody and kind of like force her vote on people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean maybe they
Speaker 1: were thinking, like, in the future, Kara can be on
Speaker 1: my team and she's good, so let's listen to her.
Speaker 1: She has a star. We might not want to.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. But it also is
Speaker 1: when somebody spearheads something, it's easy for everybody else who
Speaker 1: like went with it to then point back at the
Speaker 1: person who had the original idea. So instead of like
Speaker 1: you know, ruffling any other feathers or like causing any waves,
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, well we can go here. We can
Speaker 1: kind of like wash our hands of this a little, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. And I mean Car did two things. She
Speaker 1: got Jasmine in and she blocked cam. The cam called
Speaker 1: it like you blocked me. Okay, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean it was as much as there is a
Speaker 3: lot of you know, Car got a lot of heat
Speaker 3: this episode in terms of showmanship. In gameplay, it is
Speaker 3: entertaining to watch there'd be two equal sides that have power,
Speaker 3: Like Car has gained control of the middle of this episode,
Speaker 3: by convincing Jay and Avery to vote with her, and
Speaker 3: Camoff also has a lot of alliances as well, so
Speaker 3: we're seeing like these two people who were originally friends
Speaker 3: separate into two different alliances and really go against each other.
Speaker 3: And there are some really big power players skating underneath
Speaker 3: the surface, and like, obviously one of them and I
Speaker 3: love Laurel to death, but one of them was Laurel, Like,
Speaker 3: she is probably one of the best females to ever
Speaker 3: play the game, and her name is not coming up
Speaker 3: at all except for on a burn vote.
Speaker 2: Which was like whoa.
Speaker 1: Yes, people also want to work with her, but they
Speaker 1: also fear her. You know, you don't want to run
Speaker 1: against Laurel in a final. She also don't want to
Speaker 1: go against Laurel in elimination, right, so you're kind of
Speaker 1: like stuck between a rock and a hard place. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's how that goes.
Speaker 3: That's that's a good That was a good quote, Anisa,
Speaker 3: that was a very good quote, said correctly, what do
Speaker 3: you think of a yeah? Yeah, What do you think
Speaker 3: about Steve and Keifler going in?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I hate it because they both seem like such nice guys.
Speaker 1: We've had Keith La on the podcast, he was nothing
Speaker 1: but sweet. He was completely entertaining, And these little injuries
Speaker 1: can really can really mess with you. And minus the
Speaker 1: you know, take out the size difference. I mean, an
Speaker 1: injury can change all of that. Uh, Steve's skill and
Speaker 1: knowledge of wrestling can you know, benefit him. So it
Speaker 1: was unfortunate, But I don't know who else they really
Speaker 1: could have, you know.
Speaker 2: Picked No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good matchup, like they put on
Speaker 3: a great show, and I'm sure it was even more
Speaker 3: incredible in person. I think I knew Steve was gonna
Speaker 3: win when the beginning of this episode started with Steve
Speaker 3: in the Wild and Aces in.
Speaker 1: Places like, Aces in Places was the best shit I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. All he did was just being random. Place
Speaker 1: is sleeping. Oh, I've never seen any buddy sleep like
Speaker 1: baby sleep like that. Dude, like half on the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what in the narcolepsy is going on? But
Speaker 1: Steve in the Wild was incredible? Actually, I put it
Speaker 1: in my notes. I was really into like whatever he
Speaker 1: the duct tape and the rope. I'm like, what else
Speaker 1: did you bring in that bag?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 3: Steve is one of those players like he just keeps
Speaker 3: surprising me. More and more each episode. I'm so happy that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're getting like thought it was just.
Speaker 1: A hand model.
Speaker 2: Yeah you thought wrong, You thought wrong. He's looking for grubs.
Speaker 2: He's looking for grubs.
Speaker 1: That grosses me out every time I think about grubs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like ultimately, at the end of this episode,
Speaker 3: Steve gets another star.
Speaker 2: He gives Adam Starr to Ace, what were your thoughts
Speaker 2: on that?
Speaker 1: This is why I love All Stars. You literally can
Speaker 1: communicate what the hell you're doing. Like, hey, brother, I
Speaker 1: said I wanted to run with you, you know, in the
Speaker 1: final and I'm sure you'll have a chance to get
Speaker 1: this star back. And I'm gonna give this to Ace.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like it's.
Speaker 1: The clear Yeah, but it's still competition. It's still like,
Speaker 1: all right, I took it. And then Adam knows, like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna take it back, but like it's
Speaker 1: not there. It's not malicious, right, you know, but it
Speaker 1: may get that way and I can't wait to see it. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then this this move of I've never seen because
Speaker 1: once you make up your mind with DJ, your mind
Speaker 1: is made up. Nicole comes down, ready in the uniform,
Speaker 1: ready to go, and takes Jasmine spot, only to come
Speaker 1: back after Veronica finesses the shit out of her. Well
Speaker 1: played Veronica, Yeah she still got it, sister. If you
Speaker 1: say she's not political, you don't know that. Lady is smart.
Speaker 1: And finesses her way out and Jasmine's back in. Like
Speaker 1: what did Veronica say? You know, like she's just good.
Speaker 1: She's just like, listen, I'm not the one like I'm
Speaker 1: not playing with Kara, I'm not playing her game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that was enough for her to be like,
Speaker 1: oh right, but Veronica is never playing anyone else's games.
Speaker 1: So if you've ever played with her before or you
Speaker 1: know her even as a person or a friend outside
Speaker 1: of the show, she's she's never playing or on anybody
Speaker 1: else's time. Like she's like, this is my ship, yeah,
Speaker 1: grown ass woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah she does what.
Speaker 1: I'm about to start talking my way out of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah I do it already, but I'm really going to.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we all got to take a page out
Speaker 2: of Roonica's book.
Speaker 1: Yes, she likes letting Nicole twenty or something that would
Speaker 1: be a big t move.
Speaker 2: Nicole was like, yes, one hundred dollars.
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding, just kidding, No, no shaved in Nicole,
Speaker 5: no shading the Nicole was a beast for putting herself
Speaker 5: in elimination.
Speaker 1: Of course, and I knew she was going. She was like, ropes, gals,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, got in there and did what she did.
Speaker 1: So Nicole ends up beating Jasmine, and this is our
Speaker 1: last sight of our jazz hands. However, now that Nicole
Speaker 1: has Jasmine Star, we have Jasmine the actual star on
Speaker 1: today's podcast, and I'm excited about that. But before we
Speaker 1: get Jasmine on here, we must talk about all star
Speaker 1: and no star, Tory, who do you give your all
Speaker 1: star to? Who's the all star of this episode?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, we just talked about it. It has
Speaker 3: to be Veronica, Am I right? Like?
Speaker 2: Who else is the challenge? History? Has ever finessed their way.
Speaker 1: Out of being called into an elimination in their uniform
Speaker 1: down an elimination it?
Speaker 2: You know what Veronica has. She's smooth.
Speaker 3: You know, she's got a way about her, she's gotten
Speaker 3: appeal to her, something about her.
Speaker 2: Man, she's got finesse.
Speaker 1: Yes and I also, you know, I want to give
Speaker 1: it to her, but I also want to give it
Speaker 1: to Derek. I don't know if you missed the Olympic tryouts,
Speaker 1: but uh, you are. Those are stems that I love.
Speaker 1: I want to borrow them if I want to challenge again.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I just thought he was like, he was just so
Speaker 1: good in the challenge, and I think that he's worth mentioning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with that. I actually couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2: Who would you? Who would you give your no.
Speaker 1: Star to Brad because he had no seat?
Speaker 5: No seat?
Speaker 1: You're like, Brad over here, Brad in this one, Brad,
Speaker 1: and he's like just walking like d like it actually.
Speaker 2: Happened to be fair. I want to give my no
Speaker 2: star to Brad too.
Speaker 3: But then when you think about it, I like Leroy
Speaker 3: went the wrong way first, but then thankfully Cam was
Speaker 3: like babe, that's for and then he doesn't quick turn around,
Speaker 3: and then Brad obviously is just like on the run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when Brad got over, he still couldn't find
Speaker 1: the damn seat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was tough. That was Yeah, all right, I'll
Speaker 3: give my Brad too. I mean that or aces stylist
Speaker 3: for the evening. Oh, I'm just kidding, I'm just come.
Speaker 1: He looked cool and he like played played it up.
Speaker 4: He did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like the humble when you win.
Speaker 1: I thought that was yea, it was really it was
Speaker 1: really funny. Yeah, however, I think we need to get
Speaker 1: into the spicy moment and pick Jasmine Jazz hands Renaud's
Speaker 1: brain for a little bit. Hear what she has to
Speaker 1: say about the episode and her time on All Stars.
Speaker 1: All Right, we have to take a quick break, but
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Jasmine right after this. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the show.
Speaker 3: All right, everybody, it's our favorite part of the podcast
Speaker 3: where we get to interview a.
Speaker 2: Special challenger today.
Speaker 3: This challenger is from her original season was The Real
Speaker 3: World Cancun. She's done several Challenge seasons, including two All Stars.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: She is probably the spiciest person on this season and
Speaker 3: it is such a bummer that this was her final
Speaker 3: episode of the show. But regardless, we're going to get
Speaker 3: into all of the details today with the.
Speaker 2: Very special Jasmine. We're not Jasmine welcome.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me late. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Tori was raving because you are just all the spice
Speaker 1: this girl has ever needed. She's been like adding you
Speaker 1: to every vegan recipe.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: She is obsessed with. I mean, I've known you for years.
Speaker 1: I know Rashida's comes out, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: this was Rashida. We'll get into her later. I just
Speaker 1: want to know, uh, what was Ace wearing during elimination
Speaker 1: and who whose jacket was that?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 6: Oh my, I totally forgot that he wore that jacket
Speaker 6: until I saw it again. But I think that was
Speaker 6: actually Ryan's, Like I see like something Ryan would totally wear. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I believe that was definitely Ryan's jacket, but he pulled
Speaker 6: it on pretty well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of loved that for Ace, you know,
Speaker 1: a little shining moment for him and a little bit
Speaker 1: of a little bit of pizzazz.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely unexpected.
Speaker 3: When I think of Ace as a challenger, I don't
Speaker 3: think cheated jacket, So it was like it was a
Speaker 3: nice touch.
Speaker 2: I think it was very different. He gave it, he
Speaker 2: was giving, He was giving for sure. Yeah, So, Desma,
Speaker 2: what did you like?
Speaker 3: Obviously this episode was so heavy and intense, and this
Speaker 3: feud really started weeks ago. Now, considering the feud between
Speaker 3: you and Kara and then her giving you the Star
Speaker 3: and then watching it all play back, let's just jump
Speaker 3: back a couple of weeks ago to kind of start
Speaker 3: where it began when Kara Maria gave you the star.
Speaker 3: What was your initial reaction to that?
Speaker 4: When she gave me the star? I was just like,
Speaker 4: why would you like give me this?
Speaker 6: Like to hand it to me, because at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, in my mind, I'm thinking everyone's gonna
Speaker 6: want to run a final with me because A I've
Speaker 6: never been to a final, and I'm let's be honest,
Speaker 6: I'm not the strongest competitor, So why would you give
Speaker 6: this to me? I didn't think. I didn't think there
Speaker 6: was any ill will to it. I was like, maybe
Speaker 6: she's trying to give me a peace offering.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but no, she wasn't giving me a
Speaker 1: peace offering. She gave it to you because people underestimate
Speaker 1: smaller players sometimes I think it was a this is
Speaker 1: just from an outsider, Say I didn't know anyone, right,
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I do, so it makes is hard, but say
Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone, And I think some people's strategy
Speaker 1: is if we give it to certain players, some people
Speaker 1: will like we saw tonight Nicole jumped down and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know I can. I know I may be able
Speaker 1: to beat somebody who's a little bit smaller than me,
Speaker 1: and I think that that was the maybe the motive.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think it is too now that I like, I
Speaker 6: didn't think of it right in that moment. I'm in
Speaker 6: my head, I'm thinking, Okay, I've got a star. I'm
Speaker 6: just thinking about the final. I'm not thinking, oh shit,
Speaker 6: other people still have to get their star to get
Speaker 6: to the final. I'm not thinking anyone's gonna want to
Speaker 6: go back down against me again. Long as I just
Speaker 6: keep myself out of the bottom, I'll be fine.
Speaker 2: I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 3: And I feel like when you get a star, it's
Speaker 3: kind of like this precious thing. You're like, all right,
Speaker 3: one thing checked off the box. Now I just have to,
Speaker 3: like you said, get to the final with it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: there's just so much game that happens in between, and
Speaker 3: I think like, ultimately it must be difficult to navigate
Speaker 3: it once you have a star. Obviously, when she first
Speaker 3: gave it to you, you said that that didn't really click.
Speaker 3: But when you start to like sit with the star,
Speaker 3: and now you're starting to play with the star and
Speaker 3: dale the challenges did you feel like you had to
Speaker 3: shift your gameplay a bit or were you just kind
Speaker 3: of like, whatever's going to happen is going to happen.
Speaker 6: I did think I kind of had to shift my
Speaker 6: gameplay a little bit. I had to be smart, like
Speaker 6: how I handled people in the house. I actually did
Speaker 6: make a deal with Avery, saying that if she didn't
Speaker 6: say my name, I would give her a star later on,
Speaker 6: or if I got who I wanted, I would give
Speaker 6: her a star. So you know, you have to definitely
Speaker 6: play the game a little bit different and try to
Speaker 6: protect your star.
Speaker 3: Interesting even going like taking that note that we didn't know,
Speaker 3: and then watching their deliberation and then Carara says, if
Speaker 3: I get the opportunity to give you a star, I
Speaker 3: will give it to you, which kind of took me
Speaker 3: off guard. But now here in your backstory do you
Speaker 3: think that there was a deal cut in that moment
Speaker 3: in deliberation where Avery told.
Speaker 2: Kara that you had made that deal with her.
Speaker 4: Yes, actually she did.
Speaker 6: I end up finding out later that Avery did tell everyone,
Speaker 6: And I didn't think when I was making this deal, say, oh,
Speaker 6: don't tell anybody, But of.
Speaker 4: Course she's telling everyone.
Speaker 6: And then I start to realize Avery is a silent
Speaker 6: player that none of us are paying attention to. She's
Speaker 6: making deals left and right, but everybody wants to talk
Speaker 6: about me making deals.
Speaker 4: But okay, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the challenge is a lot of everyone's pointing fingers
Speaker 3: at each other, but we're all doing the same thing exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of the blame game and telephone
Speaker 1: this season. I mean, these are people that I mean,
Speaker 1: regardless if they have played a year ago or within
Speaker 1: the last five to ten years, Like people still are
Speaker 1: up to their old like tricky. I mean, we see
Speaker 1: it with Veronica, like she talked her way right out
Speaker 1: of elimination. So I would have put ship past anyone
Speaker 1: at this point where like a lot of people have
Speaker 1: had some time to think about how they're going to
Speaker 1: play their game, you know, and I think everybody kind
Speaker 1: of is settling into their positions. So it's very interesting.
Speaker 3: Do you, like Kara had mentioned, you know that you
Speaker 3: were like super connected and a few times your name
Speaker 3: came up in the deliberation of people saying, oh, Jasmine
Speaker 3: has a deal with you too, Jasmine, as like, did
Speaker 3: you feel you were as connected as everybody kind of
Speaker 3: painted you out to be or like you were just
Speaker 3: kind of being people were just kind of like tarnishing
Speaker 3: your name as a scapegoat to throw you in.
Speaker 6: No, I think people thought that I was definitely making
Speaker 6: a lot of deals, but it's like that wasn't the case.
Speaker 6: I was just I'm friends with a lot of people.
Speaker 6: I've played this game for a long time. You know,
Speaker 6: I can't help that I'm close with people on the show,
Speaker 6: and I'm actually friends with a lot of people outside
Speaker 6: the show.
Speaker 4: So that's not my fault. Like I'm I don't know
Speaker 4: what to tell you.
Speaker 6: I mean, by someone a birthday present, maybe they'll take
Speaker 6: care of you next time.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck to tell you.
Speaker 6: But like so I knew people were using that against
Speaker 6: me because you know, just because I'm friends with someone
Speaker 6: does not mean I have a deal.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I had even told people like Derek and Ryan to
Speaker 6: a certain point, like if you have to say my
Speaker 6: name because it helps your game, then do that. I
Speaker 6: have no problem that I know. It's not coming from
Speaker 6: a personal place. It's coming for we We have to
Speaker 6: play a game, m.
Speaker 1: Hm, right, And there's a big and I think that
Speaker 1: this happens a lot that like friendships are automatically alliances,
Speaker 1: which is not true. And after you've played a lot
Speaker 1: Jazz and you have you you collect friends from like
Speaker 1: every season, so then they put all the friends on
Speaker 1: one season and it's really hard to then even form
Speaker 1: an alliance. You know. It's like people try and pick
Speaker 1: at anything that will make you look at like you're
Speaker 1: a threat. And having friendships, I mean, I don't. It's
Speaker 1: a good thing to do, like in life and in
Speaker 1: the game, but some people are really threatened by people's
Speaker 1: ability to make friends and automatically goes to a big
Speaker 1: suspicious place of a bunch of paranoid PAMs exactly.
Speaker 6: It's well, you know, it's not my fault that you know,
Speaker 6: majority of the cast, you know, was my friend and
Speaker 6: someone like Flora, we became cool, like just straight from
Speaker 6: the beginning, and we were roommates. So I'm like helping
Speaker 6: her reintroduce her how the game is now played since
Speaker 6: you know, last time she did it. So it's you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a double edged sword to have friends,
Speaker 6: but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Speaking of friends, you got to work with one of
Speaker 3: your best friends in the challenge in this particular game.
Speaker 2: And what was it like competing with Derek.
Speaker 4: I love competing with Derek.
Speaker 6: It's always fun working with him, and he's always just
Speaker 6: the best, like like I've known him for years, like
Speaker 6: I mean, he was at my wedding, Like we just
Speaker 6: know each other forever. So it's fun to play the
Speaker 6: game with him. I just sometimes so bad when he
Speaker 6: has to be partnered with me, and you know, he's
Speaker 6: a runner. I'm not the best runner, so I always
Speaker 6: feel like I bring him down at times.
Speaker 1: No one could keep up with Daddy long legs. I've
Speaker 1: never seen Derek run that fast, but he was out
Speaker 1: of there. No one kept up with him. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: no one, so like he was just trying to get
Speaker 1: their first to save you a seat, which I thought
Speaker 1: was like so gentlemanly.
Speaker 2: He tried, but he was out gone.
Speaker 1: So don't make herself. Don't feel that bad because I
Speaker 1: watched it. I was exhausted watching.
Speaker 4: I mean that was really really exhausting.
Speaker 6: And I was actually injured from the very first challenge
Speaker 6: that we had because I had popped something in my knees,
Speaker 6: so I was limping around.
Speaker 4: So you can tell my run is like what is
Speaker 4: wrong with her? Like is she okay? Like I was
Speaker 4: in so much pain not.
Speaker 3: To mention, you guys are literally bashing into each other,
Speaker 3: like I just can. I'm surprised nobody had to wear
Speaker 3: a mouthguard.
Speaker 2: That's all I was.
Speaker 1: I would have bodied people, for sure.
Speaker 2: I would have eaten a mouthguard. Dude, do you want
Speaker 2: to fuck me up? I am ready.
Speaker 6: I mean I did hip check Veronica, but it wasn't intentional,
Speaker 6: like I don't play a dirty game, bitch, like, don't
Speaker 6: come with me with that one.
Speaker 1: But Veronica also had a seat right there, so I
Speaker 1: think that worked out. You hip checked, and then she
Speaker 1: realized she was in a safe seat exactly like it
Speaker 1: all worked out.
Speaker 6: She might not ever say I play a dirty game.
Speaker 6: Otherwise next time it will be me and her an
Speaker 6: elimination again.
Speaker 1: And the spice comes out. You know, you're not even lowries.
Speaker 1: I need a different type of salt. Like she's like
Speaker 1: a chili she's definitely a chili powder.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, I was gonna say, Kyenne, oh
Speaker 2: I slap.
Speaker 6: Your mama's evening. Oh I hope you wouldn't. Then we
Speaker 6: would all fight.
Speaker 4: Oh no, god, I would never. Ronda would kill me.
Speaker 1: You need to keep it at yes, Chyenne, So I
Speaker 1: want to know. So you guys get back to the house.
Speaker 1: You know who won, and Cara wants to throw you
Speaker 1: in And you thought she was doing you a solid
Speaker 1: at first by giving you a star, but now she
Speaker 1: wants to jeopardize that star. How do you feel about this?
Speaker 6: You know, watching her and Jay have that conversation, I'm
Speaker 6: not upset with her because that's car We all know
Speaker 6: she's a snake in the grass.
Speaker 4: That's nothing new whatever.
Speaker 6: But Jay, we were kind of like working together as
Speaker 6: a group. And for you to sit here and say,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna walk my ass to the final, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna walk my ass to the final. And I've helped
Speaker 6: save your ass and your homegirl's ass, Nicole, So for
Speaker 6: you to sit here, I didn't realize him and Carl
Speaker 6: were really working that hard to get so, you know,
Speaker 6: I realized the type of person that he fucking is.
Speaker 6: And next time I see him and we play a
Speaker 6: game together, I'm gonna have his ass crying for sure.
Speaker 1: Kaya story is so excited. She just wants to hear
Speaker 1: you and your thoughts. I'm gonna leave and you just
Speaker 1: tell everybody off and Tory and you could just sit
Speaker 1: here and have at it.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go into like my full experience of
Speaker 3: why I've become such a huge Jasmine fan over the
Speaker 3: course of All Stars, but one of the things I
Speaker 3: will say is this episode completely showed all of you.
Speaker 3: Like we're not gonna jump to the elimination right now,
Speaker 3: but even how you finished it, your demeanor after it
Speaker 3: was over, like how you like dapped Nicole up. Prior
Speaker 3: to that, You're like talking your shit. You just have
Speaker 3: a very respectful way of handling your business.
Speaker 2: So I just like really enjoyed. I've enjoyed watching you.
Speaker 3: But before we jump all the way to the elimination,
Speaker 3: and when you bounce, like you said, you didn't recognize
Speaker 3: that Kara and Jay were as close as they were.
Speaker 2: Was it not like being obvious in the house? Did Kara?
Speaker 3: Was she giving the impression that she was working with
Speaker 3: anybody or because when you see Kara in a lot
Speaker 3: of her interviews, she talks about how she really doesn't
Speaker 3: have anybody in the game.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are also co signing this.
Speaker 3: In their own interviews, But like, what was it like
Speaker 3: to be in a house with her, and then you know,
Speaker 3: now watching her back on the show, you.
Speaker 6: Know, she really wasn't showing that she was really working
Speaker 6: with anyone, Like, she didn't show whatsoever.
Speaker 4: So for me, it was it was shocking to see that.
Speaker 6: And then just even before, like when she got so
Speaker 6: upset with Brandon and I for saying her name, she
Speaker 6: just naturally assumed, just because you know, we've done a
Speaker 6: couple of challenges together, that we're friends and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: save you. I ain't talked to even like ten fucking years.
Speaker 6: Do you even know I have kids? Like I owe
Speaker 6: you nothing. Your name is not Malone or Leonardo. I
Speaker 6: don't owe you a fucking thing. Yeah, Oh, she didn't
Speaker 6: like so she just naturally assumed that everybody owed her something.
Speaker 6: Nobody owes you shit, Like you need to get off
Speaker 6: that fucking hot horse. I know you like horses and shit,
Speaker 6: but get off of it.
Speaker 1: I I think I don't like her.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I just don't like her. We're never gonna
Speaker 4: be cool. I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know, Listen, I talked to it Tory about this
Speaker 1: last week. This show is not meant to be best friends.
Speaker 1: And I think that the show has been great because
Speaker 1: of the rivalries and because we're all different people. I
Speaker 1: like that the viewers get to pick and choose who
Speaker 1: they want to root for, who they want to villainize,
Speaker 1: who they want to do whatever with. You have the
Speaker 1: freedom to feel how however you want. However, throughout this
Speaker 1: All Star season so far, with everyone we've interviewed, there
Speaker 1: is this thing of like, did you have you checked
Speaker 1: on me in the last ten years? Like a lot
Speaker 1: of people are saying that, like these outside relationships outside
Speaker 1: of like in real life, because the show is just
Speaker 1: show life that matters, and I think that people assume
Speaker 1: on this show and others that like it doesn't. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you're not checking for me
Speaker 1: in real life, like are are we friends or we're
Speaker 1: just we're just coworkers at this point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but even if you have friends like outside of
Speaker 6: the show and you're closed, you still cannot make that
Speaker 6: assumption that they're going to s save you, because we
Speaker 6: all know what happens when you make an assumption, you
Speaker 6: make an ass out of yourself.
Speaker 4: M M true.
Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, I've always told people like,
Speaker 6: if you're gonna stay my name that's fine. So you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not gonna assume just because I'm cool
Speaker 6: with Ryan and Derek and Brands and all these people
Speaker 6: that they're gonna save me. I have to have those
Speaker 6: conversations with them in the house and say, hey, do
Speaker 6: you have my back or not. With Car, she never
Speaker 6: came up to anybody and said, are you gonna save me?
Speaker 4: She just automatically assumed.
Speaker 1: And it's different because she said with Rachel, like, let's
Speaker 1: protect our stars. I thought all the star holders were
Speaker 1: gonna work together. That's the only thing that was confusing
Speaker 1: for me because it wasn't translating in every It seemed
Speaker 1: to switch up depending on depending on who had stars.
Speaker 3: And you know what I want to say, even you
Speaker 3: pointing this out, Jasmine, and I think Car is smart
Speaker 3: and she's played the game many times.
Speaker 2: She knows what she's doing.
Speaker 3: And for her to have those conversations with Rachel and
Speaker 3: then to not have them with you and Brandon, but
Speaker 3: then to get mad at you and Brandon for when
Speaker 3: you didn't vote her ways, it's almost like she wanted
Speaker 3: to to I'm not gonna say play, but she wanted
Speaker 3: to play from the side of being attacked, so therefore
Speaker 3: she had a reason to fire back instead of being
Speaker 3: the one to pull the trigger first, If that makes sense,
Speaker 3: you know, like playing from the defense. It's kind of
Speaker 3: like a way that she It's a way that she
Speaker 3: maneuvers through the game so that therefore she can be
Speaker 3: mad at someone and instead of somebody.
Speaker 2: Being mad at her for taking the first shot.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's exactly how she's played. Like, she played the victim.
Speaker 6: She's always done that. We've all seen her do it
Speaker 6: millions and millions and times again, over and over. It's
Speaker 6: nothing new. It's like the number one thing in her
Speaker 6: fucking playbook. It's what she does, plays the victim, and
Speaker 6: she needs two villains. So you've got a villain. You
Speaker 6: want to see a villain. I'll be a fucking villain, bitch.
Speaker 1: Well, not only you said you wanted to be a villain.
Speaker 1: In this episode, we see this allegation that you're a
Speaker 1: Cam's mouth peach piece, which mouthpeach, you're her mouth peach,
Speaker 1: which is really cute.
Speaker 4: Actually that's it's kind.
Speaker 1: Of cute cute, But you know, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, hearing that I'm Cam's mouthpiece, that's all bullshit. Because
Speaker 6: when it came down to it, when we decided a
Speaker 6: couple episodes back that you know, we wanted car and
Speaker 6: Rachel to go in Brandon and I came up with
Speaker 6: that idea. We wanted it, so we went and told
Speaker 6: Cam and Leroy what was going on. So I'm nobody's
Speaker 6: fucking mouthpiece, bitch, like, don't don't play with me.
Speaker 4: Don't play.
Speaker 1: I knew you'd find that offensive because no one ever
Speaker 1: wants to. It's like saying you're a puppet, right. That
Speaker 1: never feels good when you feel like you don't have
Speaker 1: any agency, Like you want credit for the things that
Speaker 1: you come up with. Unless and it's like.
Speaker 6: If you've watched me long enough, you know that nobody
Speaker 6: can speak for me. No one can make me do
Speaker 6: something I don't want to do. If I don't want
Speaker 6: to do it, I'm not gonna do it. If I
Speaker 6: do what I do, it like playing en simple. So
Speaker 6: I'm no one's mouthpiece.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I will say, you have been the same
Speaker 1: kind of player, you have the same person I feel.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't done a show with you in
Speaker 1: a while, but even from watching it, like there is
Speaker 1: a level of respects because you know, we've played this
Speaker 1: game for a long time. But yeah, you you don't
Speaker 1: really waiver from who Jasmine is.
Speaker 4: No, that's.
Speaker 6: Like what you see on TV is the same person
Speaker 6: you see like in real life playing and simple, like
Speaker 6: what you see is what you get. I'm not gonna
Speaker 6: switch it up because there's a camera in front of
Speaker 6: my face. Nine times out of ten, I'm trying to
Speaker 6: run away from the cameras and do something I'm not
Speaker 6: supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, excuse me, excuse me?
Speaker 4: Like what oh no, some things we're gonna leave alone.
Speaker 2: Jasmine.
Speaker 1: We can leave it out of the podcast, but I
Speaker 1: need to know I'm.
Speaker 4: Not saying anything.
Speaker 2: He'll kill me from give me one letter. You call
Speaker 2: her Jasmine jazz hands.
Speaker 1: I guess jazz hands, God dad, Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's her new nickname is jazz hands.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: Every time I see you, it's.
Speaker 2: Speaking of jazz hands.
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, and like this is probably such a
Speaker 3: bad segue, but like, can we talk about how amazing
Speaker 3: that Laurel Nicole sauna scene was.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, that was a perfect segue, Tori, okay.
Speaker 3: Cogilation and how Nicole walks out she goes Yeah, good
Speaker 3: game conversation.
Speaker 1: Nicole Nicole where they were like oh she was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, oh my god.
Speaker 6: Nicole and Laurel bose two. I don't know what place
Speaker 6: in the house they did not hook up in, but
Speaker 6: good to know.
Speaker 4: They hooked up around the sun.
Speaker 1: No, it was for me. If no one caught this,
Speaker 1: it was v was like, can I get a sip
Speaker 1: of that water?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I mean the way she came.
Speaker 4: Around the corner was like wiping her mouth. I'm like,
Speaker 4: get right.
Speaker 2: She was like, good game, good game talk.
Speaker 1: Like no, absolutely what game were you all talking about?
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: I just love the unapologeticness of it though, like it's
Speaker 3: they don't care.
Speaker 2: They really don't. They're figuring it out on their own
Speaker 2: and you know, fingering it out on their own. I
Speaker 2: didn't say that, I said. I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Aisa, Well, they're jazz handsing it to the jazz routine
Speaker 1: that they made up in the sauna is incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is so good, but we have
Speaker 2: to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the show.
Speaker 2: It was nice to.
Speaker 3: Have like those happy moments and when there's obviously so
Speaker 3: much intensity going on, I want to shine light on.
Speaker 2: Another amazing moment. The very beginning of this episode really quickly,
Speaker 2: when Leroy was trying to do his acting spiel so bad,
Speaker 2: it was so bad that it was so good.
Speaker 6: I was like, what is this montage that he's going
Speaker 6: on about.
Speaker 1: I love that they're doing that this season. It's really cute.
Speaker 1: But libro was awful. Yeah, but it was awfully good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was awfully good.
Speaker 2: It wasn't me.
Speaker 3: I think like, like, it's nice to have that balance
Speaker 3: of good and bad. And obviously jazz in this episode
Speaker 3: had a lot more intensity for you than it did.
Speaker 2: Funny, bright, little baby moments. But let's get into that elimination.
Speaker 3: When you walked in and you saw what it was
Speaker 3: without knowing before Nicole was gonna come down, what was
Speaker 3: your initial reaction to what you saw in the sand?
Speaker 6: I was just like, Jesus Christ, why do I always
Speaker 6: get a physical elimination? Can you guys give me a
Speaker 6: puzzle or something like? Can I catch a break from
Speaker 6: physical things? Like I'm so tired of doing this? And
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, Veronica, we're the same height, maybe
Speaker 6: not quite the same way, but this I have a
Speaker 6: chance I have a chance.
Speaker 4: It's a possibility.
Speaker 1: Did you think Nicole was going to once she saw
Speaker 1: that or no matter? I mean, well if it was
Speaker 1: a puzzle, maybe not. But looking at this, were you like,
Speaker 1: there's a chance she may come down?
Speaker 6: In my head, I knew I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 6: is ropes, this is she needs a star. It's a
Speaker 6: very good chance she could come down.
Speaker 1: Whose spot did you think she was going to take?
Speaker 1: Initially before it happened.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I didn't think she I don't know whose spots
Speaker 6: she was gonna take. I really didn't know if she
Speaker 6: was going to be me or Veronica, Like, because I
Speaker 6: mean we're at the halfway point, you know, we're starting
Speaker 6: to thin out a little bit. I have saved her once, like,
Speaker 6: but you know, I've been working more with Jay than
Speaker 6: I really have Nicole, So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if she's really working with Veronica. So
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure.
Speaker 6: I was like, she might flip a coin then decide
Speaker 6: like I'm not one hundred sure who she's going to, you.
Speaker 2: Know, say yeah. And obviously this was so confusing.
Speaker 3: I think Cam probably had the best SoundBite on it
Speaker 3: in the interview, like she was like I barely can
Speaker 3: decode what Nicole says, let alone thinks.
Speaker 2: You know, so before we get into the processing of.
Speaker 3: Like how this all went down when she originally picked
Speaker 3: Veronica to go against and you're running back up to
Speaker 3: the bleachers with everybody like what was what was your
Speaker 3: mind thinking at that point.
Speaker 4: I was just like, yes, I'm safe. I'm good. This
Speaker 4: is awesome.
Speaker 6: You know, my star at this point I think is
Speaker 6: gonna be safe until the final because there's so much confusion.
Speaker 4: Nicole has just shaken the women's.
Speaker 6: Side of the house up, like this is perfect, this
Speaker 6: is exactly what I need.
Speaker 3: And then you see them whispering on the sand And
Speaker 3: were you able to overhear anything between Veronica and Nicole.
Speaker 4: No, I wasn't able to overhear it.
Speaker 6: But they were talking for a good ten minutes, and
Speaker 6: I'm like sitting there thinking this has taken way too long,
Speaker 6: like something's up, Like I'm getting nervous.
Speaker 4: I'm like, can we start this game? Like let's go?
Speaker 6: Like come on, you know, they were they talking about
Speaker 6: why are y'all letting them talk?
Speaker 4: Where's the RAF? Come on? Ogay?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wait, I was gonna say one thing, there was no
Speaker 1: way you were gonna overhear anything, let alone understand it.
Speaker 2: She was talking loudly. Yeah, But once I saw.
Speaker 6: The cameras getting closer and closer to them, I'm like, shit,
Speaker 6: this is not looking good.
Speaker 4: What's going on right now?
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I can only imagine what was like
Speaker 3: in the conversation, considering we only saw a snippet of
Speaker 3: what V said to Nicole. But like, when you found
Speaker 3: out that she decided to change her mind, were you
Speaker 3: even more pissed at Nicole for teasing you about possibly
Speaker 3: letting you off the hook.
Speaker 4: For the elimination? Well, first, I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 4: was better.
Speaker 6: I was like, this is not fair. And then it's
Speaker 6: just kind of like, all right, you know what, you
Speaker 6: can't be mad. You gotta go play the game. You
Speaker 6: have to just laugh this off and be like whatever.
Speaker 6: And then I'm just like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: fuck this bitch's game up. So I was like, I know,
Speaker 6: I have to go back down and we get time
Speaker 6: to kind of talk to the other cast members.
Speaker 4: I'm planting seeds to.
Speaker 6: Make sure if I lose this, you guys do not
Speaker 6: let Nicole get soe final. I am already setting her
Speaker 6: I'm setting up.
Speaker 4: Her death already.
Speaker 2: What were you saying?
Speaker 6: I was just letting people know she's doing this, she's
Speaker 6: doing that. You need to watch her with Laurel oh.
Speaker 6: I heard her say this about you. Oh, I was baby.
Speaker 6: I was playing seeds all up and down.
Speaker 2: And were they like real seeds or were you just
Speaker 2: like making up rumors to just not s with her?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Could she was on fire?
Speaker 4: She was on fire.
Speaker 1: I know which ones were real. But it's okay.
Speaker 3: So you end up getting down there with the call,
Speaker 3: obviously you're heated up. You hear the rules of the
Speaker 3: elimination and it's like you said, it's another physical elimination.
Speaker 3: What was your strategy going into it? Obviously you got
Speaker 3: to watch the guys first. Did you learn anything from
Speaker 3: the guys round? And then like, what was your strategy
Speaker 3: going into competing.
Speaker 6: My strategy with going into this, It's just like, okay,
Speaker 6: if I can run to one side faster than Nicole
Speaker 6: and just push as much weight of one side of
Speaker 6: the rope.
Speaker 4: On her side, and then just I'm gonna have to just.
Speaker 6: Try to fight her way around it, like I'm gonna
Speaker 6: just I can get to the rope first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she got to the opposite side of
Speaker 3: the rope first. So it was like, you were there
Speaker 3: rules in the game that you had to choose different
Speaker 3: sides or was it just.
Speaker 6: No no rules they actually gave us, Like we only
Speaker 6: had like thirty minutes to like get the rope on
Speaker 6: the side, and we're all thinking our heads, why did
Speaker 6: we need thirty minutes to push this thing over?
Speaker 4: No one's gonna last thirty minutes doing this.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 6: But what we didn't realize later on is that there
Speaker 6: was like some n slacks of the rope. You had
Speaker 6: to have some of the rope at least one part
Speaker 6: of your side, so you could have just started pulling
Speaker 6: rope with your hands instead of wrestling it. None of
Speaker 6: us paid attention to the rules that well oh my yeah,
Speaker 6: so yeah, me and Nicole just we didn't think about that,
Speaker 6: and we obviously you could tell we had the same
Speaker 6: strategy to go on one side of the ropes.
Speaker 4: But this is Nicole.
Speaker 6: No dude wants to go against her, Like have you
Speaker 6: seen her body? Like it's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's built for these kinds of eliminations. Like
Speaker 3: I think it was in her particular gameplay. It was
Speaker 3: the perfect storm for her to go in, no matter
Speaker 3: who was in there, to go in and try to
Speaker 3: win a start because she didn't have one. So I
Speaker 3: get why she did what she did, but yeah, it
Speaker 3: sucks that it was against you and that there was
Speaker 3: this major I mean, I love Veronica too, so either way,
Speaker 3: like it would have been she did to see either
Speaker 3: one of you leave the game. But it was like, damn,
Speaker 3: Jazz has just given us all of this great content
Speaker 3: right now, She's going She's.
Speaker 2: Going head to head with some of the biggest names
Speaker 2: in the game.
Speaker 4: I have I literally have gone against some of the
Speaker 4: biggest names. The only person I haven't gone against Toy.
Speaker 4: You're a big name.
Speaker 6: Please, I don't want to go against you in a
Speaker 6: Hall of in the future. I don't want that from
Speaker 6: my life.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're not putting it.
Speaker 4: I got to look after.
Speaker 2: We're not putting that out there. We're gonna ask we're
Speaker 2: gonna racist from the podcast. Actually we're gonna edit that
Speaker 2: far out. We have no interest in that.
Speaker 4: No, and Aniece, I never want to go against you.
Speaker 4: You're like the elimination queen. Like I don't want that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't want to do it either, you.
Speaker 4: Know, but like I mean, that's what I tell people,
Speaker 4: that's my resume.
Speaker 6: Like I've gone against some of the biggest names, So
Speaker 6: I'm proud of proud of myself for that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you don't back down, like you see
Speaker 3: it in your eyes. You're kind of just like ready
Speaker 3: to go for it. And even after it was over,
Speaker 3: like Nicole literally came down there, teased you with potentially.
Speaker 2: Staying in going out of the game.
Speaker 3: She picked you to come back in, and then you
Speaker 3: have to go against her and some on the physical
Speaker 3: and then the game's over and you're like, it's all
Speaker 3: a good girl, And I'm like, damn, Like this just
Speaker 3: goes to show how authentic of a soul you are. Yes,
Speaker 3: you have your moments as we all do, where we
Speaker 3: the game gets intense and we speak our truth about
Speaker 3: how we feel and you can get spicy, but at
Speaker 3: the same time, you have a good heart and it's
Speaker 3: just so obvious. So I just think I want to
Speaker 3: commend you on just how you play the game.
Speaker 2: I think it's dope.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate.
Speaker 6: I mean, like you know, like you said, we all
Speaker 6: have our moments, and you know, sometimes it sucks, but
Speaker 6: it's like it's part of life. You can't just I
Speaker 6: can't be angry about it. I can't control it. I
Speaker 6: just have to do what I can. And you know,
Speaker 6: at that moment, it's like, I don't hate Nicole. I'm
Speaker 6: not happy that she's not thinking smart, but but it's
Speaker 6: just you know, I did. I did have fun doing
Speaker 6: that elimination, and I was actually kind of proud of
Speaker 6: myself because at one point I'm looking around, I'm like,
Speaker 6: I might actually beat her.
Speaker 4: Maybe that shit is in my mind. I'm thinking that,
Speaker 4: but I thought I had a chance.
Speaker 6: And you know, it's a game, it's not the end
Speaker 6: of the world, and it's not like I won't be back.
Speaker 2: So was that a tease that you're coming back?
Speaker 4: You know, we spice.
Speaker 1: So who were you rooting for? Steve Keithla?
Speaker 4: That's so tough.
Speaker 6: I love them both, but I was actually rooting for
Speaker 6: Keifla to come back because he has such good energy
Speaker 6: and he's such a great person to be around in
Speaker 6: the house and for him to come back, like, you know,
Speaker 6: after all this time, and to like actually meet and
Speaker 6: see him, I really wanted him to come back to
Speaker 6: the game, and I think a lot of people did.
Speaker 6: I think this was a it was a tough one
Speaker 6: to like see him like lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that's gonna be felt by a
Speaker 1: lot of people. He seems pretty cool. His wife seems cool.
Speaker 1: She's beautiful, I know, right.
Speaker 4: She's so gorgeous. Oh my god, Like.
Speaker 2: I know, dude, and like, and you could just see,
Speaker 2: like he's had such.
Speaker 3: An awesome season even though like he wasn't there for
Speaker 3: as long as you know, people wanted him there for Like,
Speaker 3: he really showed up and he had many times when
Speaker 3: he performed incredible. And it sucks when you get injured
Speaker 3: like that and you can't really perform to your ability.
Speaker 3: It happens to literally anybody at any age. So I
Speaker 3: don't want to hear anybody in the the comments or
Speaker 3: whatever saying and he's old, because literally at any age,
Speaker 3: you can get injured.
Speaker 2: At any age.
Speaker 3: Nicole got her shoulder popped out by Cam on Double Agents,
Speaker 3: Like anybody can get injured.
Speaker 2: In this game. So oh my Brandon ankle during the
Speaker 2: final Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: And that's the thing people understand. I've told people, like
Speaker 6: even when like in my twenties when I played this game.
Speaker 4: You play injured all the time, like everybody.
Speaker 1: You couldn't even tell people back in the day, yeah
Speaker 1: you because they just vote you in. You're like, I
Speaker 1: have asthma. They were like, we're voting her in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I broke a nail. She broke a nail. Let's go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So now that you are unfortunately out of the game,
Speaker 1: who are you? Who are you rooting for? Who would
Speaker 1: you like to win this whole thing?
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, honestly, I want to see everyone this I think,
Speaker 6: you know, like I said before, she's sneaky, she's planned
Speaker 6: the game better than I realized, and I think and
Speaker 6: she's actually performing very well, you know, So I would
Speaker 6: like to see her.
Speaker 4: I think she deserves that.
Speaker 6: I think, I know watching her back in the day,
Speaker 6: she didn't have the greatest challenge time, so I would
Speaker 6: definitely like to see her win. Of course, I would
Speaker 6: love to see Derek win, you know. I mean, John
Speaker 6: A's won the past All Stars, so let's keep it
Speaker 6: back in the can Kuon family.
Speaker 4: So I'd love to see Derek winn.
Speaker 6: And then I go on All Stars five and I
Speaker 6: win that win, and we just keep it all can coon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love keeping it all cancuon.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: That's weird.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that you would say that you want Abra
Speaker 3: to win, especially because I guess in the beginning of
Speaker 3: this interview, like the way you complimented, which I'm seeing
Speaker 3: now the way her techniques as being sneaky, Like I
Speaker 3: almost feel like that was like a dig at her gameplay.
Speaker 3: But now I'm understanding that you support it. Is that
Speaker 3: what I'm getting at?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 6: I support like what she did? You know, she's you know,
Speaker 6: it's definitely not a diggot. I think she's a great person.
Speaker 6: It's just you don't expect that from someone just by
Speaker 6: looking at her, you know, and just what I saw
Speaker 6: in her in the house.
Speaker 4: So I'm just she shocked me. She threw one she had,
Speaker 4: she threw one over my head. I'll give her that one.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited to see what else happens this season,
Speaker 3: but it's going to be a total bummer that you're
Speaker 3: not there.
Speaker 2: You know, when we.
Speaker 3: Got on this podcast, you said that you had a
Speaker 3: lot of opinions about how the season went. Is there
Speaker 3: anything that we missed that you want to talk about
Speaker 3: before we head out.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, who's ever doing the music? I
Speaker 6: absolutely freaking love it. This is bringing me back. I'm
Speaker 6: love it, So let's keep the music going. I'm so
Speaker 6: excited about it.
Speaker 4: You know, this has been a fun season.
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, I definitely stated it a couple
Speaker 6: of times in the episodes. I've never played a game
Speaker 6: like this. I've always kind of been a little bit
Speaker 6: more like behind the scenes and like kind of just
Speaker 6: let everyone else make those moves. But and I just
Speaker 6: you know, whatever, But this time I really wanted to
Speaker 6: play a game and get dirty and call people out
Speaker 6: and really try something different, you know. And I think
Speaker 6: I'm proud of the way I played this game. I'm
Speaker 6: happy how I played this game. So it was fun.
Speaker 6: I hope to be back on All Stars with mine
Speaker 6: going on the flagship either and showing some of these
Speaker 6: young kids.
Speaker 4: How I was really supposed to be fucking done in
Speaker 4: the house.
Speaker 6: Off what they wanted to Kay, let's go jas Han, Yeah,
Speaker 6: damn go, I can go.
Speaker 3: Who's who's pissing you off?
Speaker 2: From the flagship?
Speaker 4: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: What's that one?
Speaker 4: What's his name? Something with the Syrian Saurians? Three? Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: he's annoying. Emmanuel. I don't know what the fuck is
Speaker 4: going on with that little boy.
Speaker 1: He gotta get his ship together past lovers, sorry bad,
Speaker 1: I don't care. And then that Olivia girl, Baby, what
Speaker 1: was you thinking you've done through your your bride or
Speaker 1: die and his homegirl?
Speaker 4: Like, I forgot what. I didn't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 4: You exactly what she was thinking. Don't be stupid. He
Speaker 4: was playing a game. Say, I was playing the game ship. Damn.
Speaker 1: Oh, jazz hands. It's good old jazz hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may need that on.
Speaker 1: The flagship because they're like.
Speaker 2: We're just not gonna say anything.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna play for real.
Speaker 6: Sneaky, such a scared game. Don't be scared. Like all
Speaker 6: of y'all can't go to the end and win.
Speaker 1: Shit, Yeah it's true, Jesus, but they sure as help try.
Speaker 1: They sure I'm bringing you and you and you and you.
Speaker 4: And you my rookie mistakes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you said that.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because you said that you were proud of
Speaker 3: the way you played the season, which I think you
Speaker 3: should be, But then in your interview on All Stars,
Speaker 3: you were like, I don't know if I'd play that again,
Speaker 3: Like that if I were to come back, what are
Speaker 3: your thoughts on how you played? Now?
Speaker 6: I think I just said that just in the moment,
Speaker 6: because you're still come still pissed off. Yeah, but I
Speaker 6: am proud of after watching everything, I'm proud of how
Speaker 6: I played the game and really thinking about it. Of course,
Speaker 6: there are some things I would tweak, you know a
Speaker 6: little bit, and that I can't get. I'm not gonna
Speaker 6: give away what I would tweak, so you just have
Speaker 6: to wait and see for next time.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well bye, I got jazz Ham Yeah, Licy jazz Man.
Speaker 4: I love this.
Speaker 3: Well, dude, it's literally been number one a pleasure to
Speaker 3: watch you this season. It's been, like I am, I
Speaker 3: love the game that you played. It's been so out
Speaker 3: there and just bold. And I don't think it's fair
Speaker 3: to say you're anybody's mouthpiece, because if you're about to
Speaker 3: go up against the Lions, you go up against and
Speaker 3: you still bark back like you're obviously.
Speaker 2: Crazy within your own.
Speaker 3: Mind, but in the best way possible, you have your
Speaker 3: own your own you can tell it comes from you.
Speaker 3: So I just think it's amazing to watch you compete,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's awesome to connect with you on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: If anybody wants to follow you on Instagram or on
Speaker 3: any of your social media platforms, where can they follow
Speaker 3: you to stay connected with you.
Speaker 6: On Twitter you can find me It's Jazzy Ray I
Speaker 6: should probably change it it's jazz hands now yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then on Instagram and TikTok you can find me
Speaker 6: at jazz MTV.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Jazmine. It was so good
Speaker 2: to talk.
Speaker 6: Thank you ladies for having me. It's always a pleasure
Speaker 6: talking to you too.
Speaker 1: Never a dull moment with the spicy, spicy Kyenne jazz
Speaker 1: hands ky just hands. Oh god, I mean it's probably
Speaker 1: one of the best things you've come up with.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I can't take credit because she
Speaker 3: she she.
Speaker 2: Helped me channel that for her. It was my spirit guides.
Speaker 1: This is who the not the spicy spirit guides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like, this is dude.
Speaker 3: She's amazing, Like even even the way she lost, Like
Speaker 3: I just have nothing but positive things to say about her.
Speaker 4: I think it was great.
Speaker 1: She wasn't you know, and then she she gave us
Speaker 1: what we needed in that interview.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did. She's awesome. I really enjoy it and
Speaker 3: I love following her on social media. So I highly
Speaker 3: recommend to anybody who is interested in Jasmine in a
Speaker 3: following kind of.
Speaker 2: Way to check out her Instagram handle.
Speaker 1: And if you want to send her jazz hams. Yeah, Tory,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? Follow you, support you, and
Speaker 1: and do a jazz routine in your dms?
Speaker 3: You can find me at the mall it's going down,
Speaker 3: find me at the clube is going You can find
Speaker 3: me at Tory Underscore Deal at Instagram. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 3: at toy Underscore Deal on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And yeah, just honestly just slide through, say what's up?
Speaker 2: Like, I read as many messages as I can.
Speaker 3: I really try to respond to all my dms, and
Speaker 3: if you send me pictures of Anissa, I'm more likely
Speaker 3: to respond.
Speaker 2: So just know that.
Speaker 3: Go Google search your favorite Anissa image.
Speaker 2: Oh nope, don't do that.
Speaker 3: Go go to Anissa's Instagram and screenshot your favorite image
Speaker 3: that she's posted consensually, and you tell you message out
Speaker 3: to me and Anissa, where can they find.
Speaker 1: You? Can follow me at Anissa MTV that's a n
Speaker 1: e s a MTV on Instagram. That's where I am.
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