WEBVTT - Arnold Schwarzenegger ON: How to Make Your Visions a Reality & Stop Having a Limited Mindset 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.800 Failures make us learn, Failures make you stronger. Pain makes 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.320 you stronger. Everyone in the world knows Arnold Fortnegger. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.920 Arnold Schwarzenegger has been an A lister and the other. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.280 One of the most famous ill beings on earth. For 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:13.920 most from his wife. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.840 We've entered your mind. That's what it feels like. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.360 If you don't know where you want to go, who 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.040 you want to be, You eventually just float around. Then 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.479 do eventually crashed. I promise the people that they're number one, 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.479 but I promised my wife that they're going to be 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.640 number one, So this is dilemma. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.479 Before we jump into this episode, I'd like to invite 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.600 you to join this community to hear more interviews that 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.479 will help you become happier, healthier, and more healed. All 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.840 I want you to do is click on the subscribe button. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.720 I love your support. It's incredible to see all your 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.720 comments and we're just getting started. I can't wait to 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.839 go on this journey with you. Thank you so much 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.680 for subscribing. It means the world to me. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.040 The best selling author and the most the number one 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.280 Healthy Well Inness. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:01:00.200 Podcast Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey, everyone, welcome back to 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.320 On Purpose, the Number one health podcast in the world. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.640 Thanks to each and every one of you that come 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.600 back every week to listen, learn and grow. Now, today's guest, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.880 I mean, embodies health in so many ways, and I 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.240 can't wait to dive into his mindset, his attitude, his routine, 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.840 his history, and the journeys took to be here. It's 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.400 someone who needs no introduction. Please welcome to on Purpose, 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.520 Arnold Schwarzenegger. It is great to be here with you. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.279 I am so thankful that you've invited us into your space. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.760 It's fascinating to look around and be here with you, 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:31.920 and thank you so much. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.880 Arnold. Absolutely, it's nice to have you here. I've been 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.720 here in this office for the last thirty three years. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.920 Some of the fact that built the building in nineteen 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.200 eighty four and then this property was there was a 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.360 railroad going through here, and then first we leased it 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.840 the property, and then the railroad company was willing to 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.000 sell it, so we them bought it and build this building. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.760 And first it was kind of a commercial office building 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.240 with insurance companies and banks and stuff like this in here. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.200 And then I decided that I want to move in here. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:12.080 In ninety ninety five years later and make it the 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:17.160 entertainment building. Then Oliver Stone moved next door to me 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.280 and the left when he come out of the elevator, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.120 because he's one left wing than I am, so he 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.600 had to go to the left. I was my right wing, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.880 so I was going to the right, which is this office. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.000 And then Rainy Hallam came in here, and Geena Davis 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.760 and Johnny Castle came in here, so everybody it was 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.560 like totally like the hip entertainment kind of a building. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.160 And so we have enjoyed this building ever since, and 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.840 it's just a great space. And I have kind of 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.240 like moved a lot of men movie memorabilias here. You 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.800 see an alligator here that is for me Eraser. You 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.160 see bat from Batman and Robin me as mister Freeze, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.880 and this terminator from Terminator one and Terminator two, and 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.200 you see the Predator and this, you know, all kinds 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:08.799 of and then kind of interesting political leaders from both sides, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.000 from the left and the right, you know, just because 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.600 I don't really care that much about those things. So 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.799 it's a John F. Kennedy at the Ronald Reagan, have 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:21.639 President Lincoln with Teddy Roosevelt that we're here, so you 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.040 have different leaders, and then we also have those that 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.160 have been losers, which is Stalin got This is a 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:33.240 gift from a Russian weightlifter from the Russian Weightlifting Federation, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.800 and so I've collected them. Also. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.600 Yeah, I feel like we've entered your mind. That's what 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.320 it feels like when you enter this room, like all 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.880 these aspects of yourself. I was I was wondering, what's 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.160 your earliest childhood memory that you think defines the person 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.280 you are today. I heard somewhere you mentioned your father 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.760 made you earn your breakfast, and I was thinking, what 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:56.520 does that feel like? 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.000 You know, I really don't know exactly why it was 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.360 that gave me the drive or gave me the ability 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.160 to visualize my goals in order, but I think it 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.400 was a combination of things of growing up after the 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.320 Second World War in nineteen forty seven I was born, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.440 and to grow up with no food, midst starvation and 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.160 faman and you know, my mother going around what they 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:27.200 called hamsterring, which means begging at various different farmers for food, 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.800 so she had food for the children. So all of 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:34.800 that I think had an impact and a strict upbringing. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.839 My father was very strict. You know. We were hit 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.560 many times and punished for not doing the things the 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.520 way they thought we should do things. We had to 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.120 earn breakfast, like you said, you know, we had to 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:51.080 do push ups and sit ups and compete knee bends 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.720 and all this stuff running around the house in order 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.880 to be allowed to have breakfast. I think all of 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:03.640 that contributed. You know. Also, I think having the military around, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.239 the British military that was because they occupied that area 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.600 of Austria. They came always around with their tanks and 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.600 with the big trucks and everything, and I think that 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.400 gave me the fascination of, you know, becoming a tank 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.880 driver myself, and I've met into the Austrian Army. Ever 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.800 since then, I have had a fascination with big cars, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.359 big trucks, with tanks and stuff like that. And I 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.159 now have the tank that I drove in the military. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.920 I now have over here in Los Angeles and it's 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.880 at the Melody Ranch where they have a lot of 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.520 various different military vehicles and they do the upkeep and 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.799 they drive it like once a month, especially with after 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.040 school kids that are staying in school in the afternoons 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.560 and sounds. So we have a lot of fun with that. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:50.520 Do you still drive it? 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.240 Yeah? Yeah, I drive it every month. Yeah, I really 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.400 enjoyed it. But that's why I have hummers, you know, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:01.480 the big military trucks and cars and sues and that, 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.159 the ashcash and all of this. It's a certain craziness 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.640 that never leaves you. You know, I didn't know boys 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.200 their toys, right, yeaheah. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.000 Absolutely. You said somewhere as well that you're you felt 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.720 like your father was maybe struggling with some post traumatic 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.280 stress disorder, like he had that energy that kind of 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.680 came through onto you guys. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.719 Well, you know, my father was a very complicated guy. Obviously, 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:31.360 I never really got to know him that well. You know, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.479 by the time I left, it was like I was 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.359 eighteen years old, I mean a military Then it moved 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.360 to Munich. Then it moved from Munich to America, so 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.520 it really was not home. I wish the day I 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.680 could have a conversation with him, because I'm much smarter now, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:52.440 I'm much more interested in various different issues like that 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.839 would make someone tick, but make someone you know, happy 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.680 and suffer whatever. So in those days, we didn't talk 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.039 about any of that, you know, So it's it. But 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.839 he was complicated because he was a victim of the 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.880 Second World War, meaning that he was dragged into the war, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:15.240 became a soldier, a Nazi officer, you know, was shattered 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.920 in Starting Grat or Leningrad should say, and he was 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:25.040 you know, buried on the rubble of buildings that collapsed 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.080 on top of him for three days and then he 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.760 had back surgeries and then he was shipped back home 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.880 to Austria, and that actually probably would saved him because 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.000 he got out of Russia just on time before the 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:44.640 whole thing collapsed, and so it created a certain kind 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.280 of a thing. He had malaria, so he was suffering 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.400 from malaria, He was suffering from shrubnos moving around in 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.800 his body. He was depressed obviously that they lost the 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.120 war in the first place. So that must have had 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.120 an impact on alliest man. Because everyone around me when 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:03.520 I grew up was kind of drinking. And so people 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.440 only drink when they're really unhappy, you know, or you 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.120 drink a glass of wine like I sometimes do, but 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.880 not to get drunk, but say like they did. So 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.120 there was a lot of drinking going on, a lot 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.120 of violence going on, hitting the kids, not just my dad, 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.920 hitting me or my brother. But the neighbor hit his kids, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.000 and the other neighbor hitting I mean, as a matter 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.080 of fact, that a regular kind of a parent teachers. 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.640 They would be when the parents come into the classroom, 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.800 they will go up to the teacher, they talked for 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.000 a few minutes, and then they go go to their 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.000 kids in the classroom and snack them. But every parent 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.319 was It was just the wildest kind of a thing. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.400 It would be great for comedy today, I think, you 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.679 know if because now I have to laugh about it 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.560 because people all kind of like laughing about it because 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.120 we knew. Like when my dad came in, you know, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.280 he then had this look. You know, at first he 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.040 talked to and then all of a sudden it was 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:03.160 just this look towards me. Then you will just come 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.040 over and bomb, we snack you. Then we walk out. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.640 And then some old lady would come in with the 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:14.080 walking cane, and she was the grandmother of one of 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.560 the kids that were sitting next to me, and she 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.280 would go to the teacher. Then she would walk over 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.320 the cane and she take a cane and snack the 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.840 kid over the head of the cane. And so this 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.840 was normal. So you know. So that's what I'm saying. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.480 It's it was such a different way of upbringing than 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.960 maybe you had, or that the kids have the day, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.160 or that my kids had, you know, where there was 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.120 always love and affection for them. Yes there was discipline, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.760 but it was all done in a measured way and 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.880 not with hitting and stuff like that. So it's it's 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.120 it's better I think of This had an impact, yeah, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:55.319 on the way of view the world and my drive 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.280 to get out of there, out of Austria and to 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.480 come to America and to get in the body building 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:02.520 and all those kind of things. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.880 What was the most intense part of your involvement in 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.319 the military. What was the most intense experience you had there. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.160 Obviously there was this experience at home and at school, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.400 as you just said, but I think. 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:18.600 That the military, even though when I went through it, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.920 it was really tough. But I have to say that 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.480 when I look back at it, I recommend it very 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:31.160 strongly for any young man or woman as fast it 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.160 goes to go through that, because you learn how to 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.920 be tough. You get up at five in the morning, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.640 you run for an hour, then into your basic training, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.640 you know, crawling on all fours and with the gun 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.360 in your hand, and shooting and learning how to drive 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:55.480 motorcyclists and cars and trucks and tanks. You learn about leadership, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.880 but you also learn simple things like how the iron 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.520 your shirt, how to sew on button, how to iron 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.640 your pants, how to brush your shoes, how to clean 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.000 your shoes, clean belt bucklets and oils. So become kind 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.880 of self sufficient, and it gives you, I think, a 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.880 certain amount of confidence that I don't need to be 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:21.440 babed by anybody. I can take care. I can cook, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.800 which you'll learn the basic foods. As a matter, we 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.720 made scrambled eggs on top of the tank because the 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.400 back of the motor will be so hot, so we 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.640 just put the eggs on top and just scrambled it 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.840 there and ate it of the tank dirty as it was. Right. 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.240 But I mean, so you feel kind of look, I 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.920 can handle food, I can handle ironing mail own stuff, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.960 I can handle washing my own stuff. I don't need 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.920 anybody to do this kind of you know, stupid choice. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.280 I can do it myself, and I feel good doing 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.800 it myself. So there's a lot of things like that. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.040 Did you learn in the army. It just gives you 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.040 a certain base where you don't get a afraid of anything. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.400 You feel like I've gone through all kinds of hell. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.480 Now with the military, you know, they make sure of that, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.640 and so I think that's that's really terrific. But I 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.360 remember there were times that were really tough, Like, for instance, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.679 if you make a mistake, they will have you open 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:22.280 up the hatch that is underneath your seat and made 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.800 the driver's seat is of the tank, and you open 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.280 up that hatch and it falls out, and then they 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.680 have you crawl out of that hole and then drive 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:35.640 then crawl under the tank in a mud and with 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.920 your uniform on and everything, and then you have you 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.120 have to climb up the back of the tank up 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.640 to the turrent, down the turrent, back to your driver's seat, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.240 and then out that hole again. And they do that 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.440 like fifty times. So by the time you do it 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:55.120 is like hours later, and you were you literally collapse, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.479 You're so exhausted for more this stuff. So there's punishments 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.079 like that that were really really tough. So I would 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.720 not wish that than anybody, to be honest with you. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.280 I mean, I could handle it, but I think I 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.600 could handle it because it was eighteen years old, and 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.120 you know, you're very, very tough in your eighteen dais 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.520 about anything, you know, the endurance and the strength. And 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.319 I was in the middle of my weightlifting and body 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.199 build in Korea, so I was also strong, but it 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.520 was strong Willdors. So to me, it was all kind 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.439 of it was good, but it was tough. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.880 Yeah, what was your first I know that you've talked 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.040 about how like you wanted to get out of Austria, 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.559 you wanted to get away, But what was your first 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.920 glimpse of America? Like, what was your first experience of 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.880 the United States that you had? 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:45.640 The first experience was I was competing in Florida in Miami, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.280 So to me, Miami was the first experience, really arriving 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.680 in New York, changing planes and then flying to Miami. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.440 I came from London to New York and then from 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.920 New York to Miami. That to me was the first experience. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.360 You know, the high rises, the beautiful hotels, the water, 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.080 the boats. Everyone had a boat there. Can you believe that? 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.880 I mean everyone they have an apartment and at the canal, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.600 at the waterway and then they have a boat and 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.000 they were just all cruising around and we were invited, 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.400 we bodybuilders that were competing in the competition. We were 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.880 invited on boat rides. There was this one bodybuildt that 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.800 had a boat for like ten people. So we were 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.360 going around and we saw how much fun they had, 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.240 you know, how well people lived, how happy they were. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.280 To me, there was like a really interesting experience, unlike 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.480 the experience when it came to California, because I felt like, Okay, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.880 I'm coming to California and I'm going to see all 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.760 the things that made me want to come here, Muscle Beach. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:57.520 But the Muscle Beach by that time was closed, you know, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.320 they closed it in the sixties and and so there 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.880 was no Muscle Beach per se. Then Gold's Gym was 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.760 not as big as I thought it's going to be. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.080 The buildings when you look around out here be in 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.600 Venice right now, it's there still the day, very no 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.040 buildings compared to the high rises in New York. So 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.600 I thought that there will be high rises here, also 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:26.560 Los Angeles high rises. And then when my friends took 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:33.080 me to Hollywood, they try to convince me this is Hollywood. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.840 I mean, look at this, And I looked around and 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.760 I just couldn't see anything right, So I thought there 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.080 would be studios left and right of Hollywood Boulevard. There 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.680 would be studios that will be Paramount Studios, and that 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.520 would be Sony, and then there will be you know, Columbia, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.000 Disney and Warner Brothers and all of the students will 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.560 be lined up left and right with hotels and luxury 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.640 and and I got down to Hollywood Boulevard. It was 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.920 like a bunch of homeless people running around and weirdos 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.360 and drug addicts and hippies and that's what I saw. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.640 And there's and tourists, you know. So I said myself, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.320 this is Hollywood. They said, well, you know, I have 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.760 to understand this is daytime. At night it really lights up. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.640 And then they said, well, why don't you bring me 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.400 here at night when it really lights up. So and 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.359 they took me at night, and it was also very disappointing. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.760 There was a few lights and a few billboards. But 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.320 you know, I just I came from London, right, So 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.120 I've been at that point. I've been several times to 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.600 London because I was competing in bodybuilding in London and 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.560 I started my bodybuilding Korea there. So I saw Piccatilly Square, 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:51.120 and I saw lights, I mean I saw action. It 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.560 was like staggering that really blew me away, you know. 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.360 And then driving out this double decker buses and the 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.400 transportation with the subway or the two whatever they call 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.680 underground they they call it in England, and all of 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.240 this to me. The airport, the Heathrow Airport, that really 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.080 blew me away. But when it came to America, when 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.480 it came to Los Angeles, I had a vision like 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.800 it would be like that, but it wasn't. And so 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.639 I was very, very disappointed in the beginning, until I 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:24.440 got used to it, and until I understood that this 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:29.760 is earthquake country that you don't build high rises, you know, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.240 because they would collapse. Later on, as time went on, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:38.359 they figured out the technology to put them rollers or 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.880 major tires or something so that the moves so they 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.199 don't collapse. But I mean, I learned to understand all 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.760 of that later on. But the first thing was a 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.920 shock to me in a negative way. But then when 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.960 I got used to Los Angeles, and when I got 0:17:55.040 --> 0:18:00.280 used to the gym and used to the members and 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:07.159 the kindness of the American people and the sweetness of 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:13.520 the bodybuilders, you know, that would invite me on Thanksgiving 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.840 when it didn't even know what Thanksgiving was, and they 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.080 would invite me, a stranger like me to the home 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.399 for Thanksgiving dinner, or they will come and show up 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:28.439 at my apartment with silverware because I didn't have any 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:37.359 with dishes, with the blankets, pillowcases, bed sheets, and I 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.640 remember this one girl gave me like a radio, a 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.840 wooden radio for my aunt Taier next to the bed, 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.959 which I still have next to my bed today, so, 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:50.880 you know, because I wanted to keep that because it 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.800 was like it was, it simpolizes whenever I look at 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:58.600 that radio, it symbolizes the generosity of the American people 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.399 and how it was kind of like included and they 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.639 moved over here and all of that. So there was 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.280 a lot of interesting lessons that I've learned right away 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.960 when they came over here, you know, the difference between 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.360 cultures and all that, between Austrians and Germans and British 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.480 and the Americans and all that. 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.240 Yeah, I think a lot of what you just said 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.280 about first coming to Hollywood, I think it's very common 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.040 when people got to Hollywood Boulevard and have a very 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.240 glamorous view of what it might be, but it but 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.080 it isn't. And what you were reminding me of just 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.040 now is just this idea of how everyone has like 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.600 dreams and visions of what something might be, and then 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:39.000 when you experience it, you get a sense of how 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.600 you view it through your own eyes. And for me, though, 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.760 what I'm what I'm fascinated by is who is your 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:50.040 who is your first ever bodybuilding coach? And do you 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.320 remember your first ever tournament? How did it go? 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:57.040 Yeah? No, I've There was a fellow by the name 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:02.080 of Quid Mannul who was mister Austria. Now I have 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.520 to imagine when you're like fourteen years old, like I 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:09.639 was in fifteen, and mister Austria was like, it's a 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.679 big star. He came out to that lake where I 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.119 grew up. There was like a lake where there was 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.040 on weekends like three four thousand people around that lake 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.280 lying in the grass and on blankets and then swimming 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.399 in that lake. And it was kind of a muddy 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.359 kind of a lake. And he came out there and 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:32.159 he looked like God. He was very good friends with 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.880 the swimming coach, the guy that kind of took care 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.479 of everything there at the lake and they were working 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.960 out and they were inviting me to work out with them. 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.520 So to me, there was kind of the first experience 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.639 where someone kind of dragged me in and inspired me 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.360 and said, oh my god, can you imagine looking like that? 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:59.440 And he if he wanted it or not, happened to 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.240 be very good because he said to me, he says, well, 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.639 in five years, you could look like me. And I 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.760 was saying, I was visualizing right away, oh my god, 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.760 can you believe that if I could look like that? 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.560 And I missed the Austria and I said, there was 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:21.240 like major and I just felt like, this is almost 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.480 kind of my new dad. He was thirty two years old, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.399 and he became kind of like a mentor. He invited me. 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.760 Then first of all he invited I realized that they 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.760 invited always these athletes out there, like shot buddhers and 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:40.080 javelin throwers and weightlifters and boxes, bodybuilders, I mean all 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.920 kinds of athletes. They all will work out together and 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.080 have a good time. And we kids were kind of 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.120 like hanging out with them very so often we will 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:50.880 work out with them, so we got so I got 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:55.640 my real early inspiration that way. And then I went 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.520 down to the club, to the weightlifting club. I started 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:04.240 working out, and Stiff really become religious about it. It 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:08.440 was like this was my new life. And I started 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.919 having visions, very clear visions of being a Mister Austria. 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.439 Then there were pictures of the Mister Europe contest, so 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.600 I visualized myself being in the Mister Europe contest and winning. 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.439 And then I saw pictures of Reg Park, which is 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:29.600 a British bodybuilder who then subsequently later on moved to 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.600 South Africa, married a South African woman by then the 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.800 name of Marianne and they created a family in South Africa. 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.679 So that what became kind of my idol. And I 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:43.560 saw pictures of him winning Mister Universe in London, and 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.600 so that was my new vision. So I started really 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.560 creating through this guy's vision. But that the division was 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:56.679 so vivid, so clear, that I felt like all I 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.280 had to do now is just follow through with the work. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.200 Let me now find out what needs to be done. 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.160 And so I read about redg Park. How did he train? 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.480 He trained like four or five hours a day, and 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.320 he didn't soarn so many sets and so many reps. 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.119 And these are the exercises. He did that, the bench press, 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.359 the incline, prents, the bat, the girl that shoulders presses 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.840 and this and that, and I just wrote everything down 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.320 and I started following his routine, and that was absolutely 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:30.200 convinced that I will be another wretch Park. And so 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.480 that's how I really developed my first rule that I 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.159 always talk about the success is you got to have 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.200 a very clear vision of where you want to go, 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.840 because if you don't have that, you're just floating around. 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:46.080 And so, you know, I was very fortunate that they 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.520 created that vision. I was very fortunate that there was 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.600 not the site kind of things going on. We didn't 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.199 have a phone in our house. We didn't have a 0:23:56.240 --> 0:24:00.480 television in our house at that time. There I on 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:04.359 the iPads, there was no computer. There was just really 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.960 you had all the time in the world to think 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:12.960 and to really just sit quietly and to just visualize. 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.480 And I always say that I feel sorry for kids 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.400 today that they're spending hours and hours on that iPhone, 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.480 an iPad or computer and they don't give themselves the 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:28.880 chance to just settle back and to just figure out 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.000 what do they want to do or who do they 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:36.840 want to be? And so this is why I think 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:38.840 that I made that kind of the rule Number one 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.639 is visualized and I always comp be to that. 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There's 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:11.200 so many internal challenges at home, there's external challenges, there's limitations. 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:15.160 That you're in a country that's obviously just survived a 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.800 world war. It almost looks like there is no space 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.960 to have vision. Like someone could argue that Arnold, like, 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.120 I mean, how are you having a vision in this space? 0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:29.080 I think what's really interesting is sometimes we feel helpless 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.720 because of where we're born, where we're from, our parenting structure, 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.720 our surroundings. Some people struggle to have a vision because 0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.240 they say, well how can I have a vision? Look 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.640 where I am? And then some other people they can't 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.080 have a vision because when they see someone like reg 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.760 Park or mister Austria and your example, what they see 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.199 is oh envy, I wish I had that, you know, like, 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.280 oh why does he have that? Or maybe you know 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.040 I should have that. So I think we live in 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.639 these two worlds where we either feel helpless or sometimes 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:04.199 we feel envious and egotistical about visions. How did you 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.280 allow yourself or how did you develop that ability? That 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:11.760 even though around you there wasn't that much success, there 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.680 was more stress, but you saw mister Austria and were 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.600 able to do that. Have you ever figured out what 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.879 that was compared to everyone else you grew up around. 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.160 I just can tell you I was very unhappy. Yeah, 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:27.960 I was unhappy with the reality of what was around me, 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.359 you know, the tough parents and the lack of food. 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.160 And others had steaks. We didn't have the money for that. 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.600 As a matter of fact, we never ate meat during 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.200 the week. Now the day they would say, oh, this 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:46.560 is really good because here vegan because more because of 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.680 a lack of money. So we didn't have anything. So 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.280 everywhere I looked, so I think, to me, the only 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:57.520 way really was in order to be happy is to 0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:01.840 create my own world and to visualize. You know. That's 0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.520 why people sometimes read a lot, because they want to 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.960 escape into another story or the day they watched movies, 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.600 to go in to see another to escape into another 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.720 story and all etf For me, that wasn't available in 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.840 the first movie. I was always like when it was 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.320 like nine or ten years old. It was not a 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.760 common thing in the village where I grew up to 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.960 go to movies, and I remember there was a collapsible 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.480 kind of a seat. I just felt right down on 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.400 the floor because I had never even heard of a collapse. 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.360 It was did you have to fold it down? So 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.960 I folded it down, then waited a little bit, and 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.040 then of course it went back up again. And I 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.880 haven't right down on to the floor. Because of that world, 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.520 the negative world, I had to kind of create my 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:51.040 own world. So I was just always daydreaming of wonderful things. 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:55.000 So it was I developed that art, and it put 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.960 a smile on my face so clearly. When I then 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:02.920 saw mister Austria, mister Universe, and I saw these guys 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.760 and so photographs of it, and I read about it 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:09.600 in the magazines. I created my vision and they saw 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:14.320 in that vision myself being up on that stage, and 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:20.520 I saw myself, you know, people screaming around me and 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:25.120 screaming on or or and all this crazy stuff. It 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.560 was all insane, crazy stuff. Stuff that I never shared 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.720 in those days with anybody is that they would have 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.120 put me in a mental institution, right, So, I mean, 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.840 so I was I just remember that I was sitting 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.760 in a classroom in school. I was like thirteen years old, 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.680 fourteen years old. The teacher will be where you and 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.040 now in front of me teaching, and I would just 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:51.720 slowly look off to the side out the window, and 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.800 I saw the screen trees, and then all of a 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:59.880 sudden there said seeing things, and I had a smile, 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.680 just this wonderful stuff to that saw and always said 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.520 I had a chalk landed on my forehead. So the 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.760 teacher threw a chalk at me, kind of saying, hey, 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.800 I'm here. I'm getting paid to teach you, to teach 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.840 this class of thirty Why are you looking out the 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:23.280 window now? I couldn't even articulate that this what you're 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:29.320 teaching here doesn't really blow up my skirt. It's like, 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.320 it's not like kind of something that I'm interested in. 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.080 What I'm interested in is what I just saw when 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.840 I looked out there, and I saw myself on that 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.760 stage in London at the Mister Universe contest, you know, 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.760 and things like that. So I think that with me, 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:54.400 visualizing became a normal thing. And I never really knew 0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.959 that I had really a very special ability to visualize 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:04.720 and to connect the dots to set myself. Well, if 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:10.560 I can see it, then it must be a reality, 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.200 and I can make it a reality. So for me, 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.719 the vision became a reality. So it was only then 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.160 a matter of following through with the work to get there. 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.800 And this is why in the book one of the 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.160 things I talk about is work your ass off, because 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:32.160 every single time when I had a vision about anything, 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:37.440 I had to work my ass off. But it was pleasure. See, 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.160 that is the great thing. When you go to work 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:46.760 and you know exactly why you're working, then it becomes fun, 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:56.080 a challenge, it's entertaining sometimes. And when you read that 0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:01.800 seventy eight percent of the American people hate their jobs, 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.600 now think about that. I mean, that must be so 0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.920 depressing that you go. Let's say you're working in some 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.120 car planted and you do, like, you know, kind of 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.480 the same work within a window in a car over 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:20.520 and over, you know, fifty times a day, every day, 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:25.720 all year long, for thirty years. I mean, it's tough. 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.920 And so this is why it's so important that we 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.960 really have a clear vision, so that you know where 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:37.600 to go and that wherever it is. If it is 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.520 to become a great auto mechanic, or if it is 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.360 become a great teacher or a politician or a high 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.480 tech engineer, whatever it is. But have a vision and 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.480 then you go after that. You should because now every 0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.280 step of the way is going to be great. You 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.280 know when I mean, you pick a doctor. Let's say 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.880 I want to be a doctor. I want to be 0:33:59.920 --> 0:34:02.880 a surgeant. The kid says to themselves at the age 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.440 of fifteen, Well, from that point on, he knows, yeah, 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.240 all the classes he has to take already in high school. 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.000 And then when he goes to college, you know which 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.239 university did to go, what kind of classes is to take, 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.839 and then how long would it take him and all 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.879 of this stuff. So there is a reason for going 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.279 to school rather than all my parents told me that 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.160 I have to go to college, and you just go 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.960 to fulfill this obligation, but there's no goal. Yeah, that's 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.200 what happens to the maturity of kids today. They don't 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.600 have to go and that's why they end up being 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.200 one of the seventy eight percent that are unhappy with 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.680 their jobs and they wish they could change jobs. But 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.600 then it's too late because now you've created a family 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.640 and you have to pay for you know, you rent 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.400 for the apartment, and you have to put food on 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.080 the table, and you have to provide money for the 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.680 kids and for your wife and for the family and 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.560 all this stuff. So it's really tough. So that's why 0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.880 so many people are really always looking for an answer 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.840 or searching for the answer. How can I improve my life? 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.279 How can I make it a little bit better? And 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.520 order stuff? And this is why I did the book, 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:07.480 and I'll be useful. 0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.640 I'm glad that you put it in that order, though, 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.759 because I think for everyone who's listening and watching, a 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.879 lot of people will say, I do work hard. I'm 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.040 working my ass off, I'm working my socks off, I'm 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.879 like doing everything I can. But I think what's really 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.560 important is that in the book you start with have 0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:24.839 a clear vision. And I agree. I think there are 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.920 a lot of people who are working really, really hard, 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.040 and it's almost like if that hard work was channeled 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.759 toward a clear vision, as you say, then that hard 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.080 work pays off, right, because otherwise a lot of people 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.000 just working hard, getting stressed, putting on pressure, but there 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.480 isn't that vision. Have you found what was the greatest 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.920 sacrifice you ever made in your life? Do you think? 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.279 And what was the reward that you gained from it? 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:50.799 What was the biggest sacrifice. 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:57.600 That is really the question is is it really a sacrifice? 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.440 Because you love it exactly. To me, it's also a 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:06.160 real question is the word discipline, because I tell you 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.480 I felt many times that I'm not a disciplined person. 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.359 But people always insist and said, oh, it must take 0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.239 so much discipline every day to get up and every 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.120 day you went in a gym at seven in the morning, 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:21.920 and you worked at the nine thirty in the morning, 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:23.920 and then you went to college after that, and then 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.440 you went desinated and he worked in constructions. I was 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:31.960 like looking forward to getting up in the morning and 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.400 looking forward driving to the gym and working out two 0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.239 enough house and then going down to the beach and 0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.640 taking around in the deep sand and getting some cardio 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:42.400 work down in the orders of I said, I was 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.719 looking forward to it. It was not like, oh my god, 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:49.279 I have to do another workout. Yes, you do that when, 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.440 for instance, sometimes people go to the gym and the 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.480 doctor says, you know, you should go to the gym 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.239 and you should work out because otherwise, you know, I 0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.640 see some problems coming up high cholesterol and body fat 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.399 and this and that, and you're gonna go and wipe out. 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.600 You know, ten years is younger than you want to 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.239 if there's every the right time to wipe out. But 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.440 I mean, in any case, so that person you can 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.279 see in the gym is there and they just they 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:20.160 do their reps and they do their sets, and they're 0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.239 not really into it. You can see there's not life 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.279 in the eyes, you know what I'm saying. Way, just 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.160 like really, they grab the weight and they do the sets, 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.279 and they get the pump and they feel good and 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.120 they put the weights down and get the next heavy 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.720 weight and then do the set and so that's really fun. 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.319 But that person is kind of like a vegetable in 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.040 a way. They just cruise around in the gym. They 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.320 sit on the life cycling and they just peddle away. 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.120 And when you say to them, missus, so why do 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:48.560 you work out? They have no answer. Then eventually they say, well, 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.000 to be honest, we do. The doctor told me that 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.000 I should get in shape. That's better for my health, 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.720 to bring my blood pressure down and my cholesterol down 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.759 and my body fat down. And always so then it 0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.040 really so I say to them, I always say, said, 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:04.920 you know what you should do is you should just 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:09.560 pick a goal that you can chase. They will say 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:13.000 like what I said, Well, how much you weigh? I'm 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.839 weighing one hundred and ninety pounds, And then I want 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:20.040 to lower my body fat body weight. I said, well, 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.120 why don't you pick a goal, like you want to 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.640 go down one hundred and seventy and did and is 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:31.080 now March, and by August when you go to the beach, 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.440 you're gonna have a slimmer waist, less body fat, and 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.120 you look leaner and you can be proud of your body. 0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.600 And then picked that. Go, oh, that's a good idea. 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.759 I said, write it down, and then write down the 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.000 sets you have to do to get you there, and 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.040 the amount of reps you have to do, and the 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.160 amount of life cycling did you have to run? And 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.040 raking a bicycle and running? Did you have to write 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.160 all of this down? And then you market off every 0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.600 day you market off. That's what I did to me. 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.200 There was really that dead feedback that they see a 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.560 line being crossed that means one was set, was done. 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.160 It was a satisfying kind of a thing. The line 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.880 was crossed off, the next line was crossed off. And 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.239 so I tell people that and then they they say, oh, 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.560 my God, this is your I'm going to do that. 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.480 That is such a great idea. Then they come back 0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.959 to me like a few months later and they said, 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.399 this worked. It was underlore. It worked, it was fantastic, 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:27.719 and it really gave me a purpose. She said, that's 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:31.040 what it's important to have a purpose, Ma, to do 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.200 things that a clear vision will they do things, because 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.480 then you don't have to look at it kind of 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.560 like I have to be really disciplined to do that, 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.040 or I have to make certain sacrifices to do that, 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.840 because then it just drags you in the dead direction 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.319 and you just do the work, you know. So that's 0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.920 what I think is always that, But clearly there were 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.840 sacrifices like for let me just give you one exact please, 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.440 What do you think it's like when you go and 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:57.359 you run for governor and you promise the people that 0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:02.359 you are going to be my number one pro. Now 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:07.200 you win. Now you have to do the work. But 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:12.080 now you come home and your kids are crying on 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:16.960 the dinner table. When you come home and Daddy didn't 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:21.160 come to my recital on Monday. Daddy, you didn't come 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:25.600 to my football practice on Tuesday. Daddy, you promised me, 0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.480 did you come into the school and to take me 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:33.879 to school? You didn't this week, So that is devastating 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:40.839 when the kids are crying and complaining and you say yourself, 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.279 you know, I promised the people that they're number one, 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.480 but I also promised my family. I promised my wife 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.480 when you are the first child, that they're going to 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.360 be number one. So that's a dilemma. Now you're in 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.200 a dilemma, and now you have to make certain sacrifices. 0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.200 And I had to make certain sacrifices comes to spending 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.839 time with my family, where my wife had to pick 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.160 up the slacks and she had to do the extra work. 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.040 So there were sacrifices made that were painful. Sometimes when 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.200 you see your kids crying, that's painful and then you 0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.480 know it's your fault. But that's the situation you're in, 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.000 and you put yourself in this situation. You had a 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.000 choice to run for governor or not to run for governor. 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.560 Right if I would have continued with my movie business, 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.520 those kids were in heaven because they were in a 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.480 movie in my makeup trailer. They were watching me getting 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.279 made up as the terminator or for any of those 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.359 kind of movies. They were in my motor home and 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.040 they were doing their homework in the afternoon. There. They 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.000 brought their friends with them, so there was fun. Now, 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.440 all of a sudden they go up to Sacramento and 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.520 everyone is running around with a suit and with the tie. 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.319 And they come to me and says that what did 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.680 you do? Why are you having this job? They were 0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.160 like eleven twelve years old, and they said, why do 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.680 you have this job? Now? I say, everyone has a 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.640 suit and at tie, and everyone looks really serious and 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.359 they all attack you. They say bad things about you. 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.359 I said, what is the way? It's politics. I say, 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.400 as soon as you run first you have like an 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.360 eighty percent popularity, and then as soon as you run, 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.200 they see if you popularity goes down to fifty percent 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.240 because fifty percent of the other side, uh the other party. 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.359 So you run as a Republican, say it's fifty percent 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.680 of the Democrats they hate you or they don't like you. 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.040 And then that the Republicans like you, but they don't 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:31.960 even like you because says, yeah, he's doing to socially 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.839 liberal whatever. So he said. My campaign manager always says, 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.960 this is honord. Twenty percent of the people hate their mother. 0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.480 So don't worry about someone hating you. It's just the 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.719 way it is in politics, you know. So anyway, So 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.399 this is so you have to make sacrifices like that. 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:48.960 Imagine a sacrifice you have to take when you come 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.360 to this country. I mean, you know what it is like. 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:57.440 You leave everything behind, my friends, my parents, my relatives, 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.440 everything that was around me that was kind of like 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:05.160 a sure thing. I had a job after the military 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.680 that it could go to continue on the job that 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.160 they did as a salesman. I had all of this 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.240 that left orders for uncertainty because there was no certainty 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.239 coming to America. There was Joe Weeder that said I'm 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.080 going to help you find the apartment, I find your car. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.799 Yet there were some people that helped a lot. He's 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.520 the one that said, gave me the alien ticket, become 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.799 to the American and order stuff. Choe Whedder is the 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.279 publisher of the Muscle magazines. He has passed away in 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.360 the meantime, but I mean he was like the guru 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.400 of bodybuilding. He created bodybuilding. The Federation was created by 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:44.200 his brother Ben Whiter and Joe had the endless amount 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:49.720 of magazines and distribution company for weight equipment for food 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.319 suppraments and order. So he brought me here. So there 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.680 was some help like this, but I mean I walked 0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.279 away from all this comfort didn't coome to America. So 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.359 yet there were major major soccer like that. But I've 0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.400 really never looked at it in that way because I 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.839 just said to myself, I want to go to America. 0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:10.880 I want to go and be there and work my 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:14.719 way up to become the greatest bodybuilder of all times. 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.360 And that's you know, we are talking about one of 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.239 the other rules, yes, is in that book, which is 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:24.120 that to shoot for big gore. Yeah, and never think small. 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:28.880 It's just as much energy or as little energy as 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.400 shooting for a little gore. You know that it's just 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.759 as much hassle. I mean if a little gored. Let's say, 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.000 if I would say I want to be mister Austria, 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.880 well that's as much working out then working out for 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.160 mister Europe or mister Universe. So I mean you might 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.560 as well just continue on and just say okay or 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:47.840 after now. The difference rule is then you have to 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.160 become a real professional. You have to know how to pose, 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:51.880 you have to have the right tan, you have to 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.680 take the right food supplements. You have to eat the 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.840 right food. You have to really fine tune, you have 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.640 to get the definition. It's not just the size of 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:02.040 the body. So the higher you go, the more complicated 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.960 he gets to win. But I said to myself, to 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.680 me to shoot for the goal of being a world champion, 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.240 it's just as easy shooting for goal of being mister Austria, 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.879 being the Austrian champion. So I just went all out, 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.839 and not only to to win the world championships in bodybuilding, 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.239 but to go beyond Rich Park, who won at that 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.400 point three mister Universe titles. To go beyond that, and 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.400 they say, I want to actually become the greatest bodybuilder 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.600 of all time, all times that there was the mcgaurdan. 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.799 So that's why I had to come to America, where 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.480 there is a muscle beach, where there's gorge gym, where 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.600 all the champions work out together, where there's Joe Weed, 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.120 that they can be helpful and publish you and put 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.560 you on the cover of his magazines. And of this 0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:52.120 the promotion, the campaign, the training, the marketing of bodybuilding 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:56.120 and order. So to me, this was really the only 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.799 way to go is to come to Los Angeles and 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:02.640 on top of it, Los Angeles is known for Hollywood, 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.319 and this is my next career. So I always say 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.319 to myself that wed Reg Park, I saw him in 0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.919 Hercules movies. So can you believe that that this guy 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:19.319 won Mister Universe three times? And then he was discovered 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:24.200 in Rome in Gini Chitta and I saw him there 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:28.200 and they said, oh my god, you are Hercules. We're 0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.640 going to send you the acting classes in the acting 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.600 school and you're going to play Hercules. And then Steve 0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.760 Reeves did the same thing, who was another Mister Universe 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:42.120 from nineteen forty, nineteen fifty. Yeah, Steve Reef from nineteen fifty, 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.160 Rich Park nineteen fifty one. So both of them became Hercules. 0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:48.960 Then there was many other body bullers that became They 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.920 did Hercules movies or those Gladiator movies and muscle movies 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:54.799 and stuff like that in the sixties. Said but it 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.160 became very famous. But the MESSI I said myself, if 0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.319 rig Park could get into movies, maybe even I go 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:06.040 to America and I become the world's greatest bodybuilder, then 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.399 they would ask me to go in the movies. And 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.640 so this is what's the idea. So to me, it 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:15.759 was natural. There's Hollywood in Los Angeles, there's Muscle Beach 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.560 in Los Angeles, there's Coach sim in Los Angeles, there's 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.279 Showda here. This is perfect. I have to go there. 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:22.879 That was the reason why I went here. 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:24.120 Did you ever have a Plan B? 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.719 I never believed in plan B because I felt kind 0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.359 of like one of the rules we have in there 0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:35.880 in my book is never listened to the naysayers, you know, 0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.880 to me, I always felt kind of like every single 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:43.319 dream of mine, of course, I have to say, they 0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:48.760 were outrageous dreams. So people said, this is stupid. Yeah, 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.319 well is the matter with you? That would never happen? 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.040 I mean, your dreams to go to America? What do 0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:55.880 you think they're waiting for you over there? I mean, 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:57.959 if plenty of people over there, they've always three hundred 0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:01.200 million populations. They don't need any more. And so that 0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:02.799 was the kind of thing, is that you would never 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:06.640 make it to America and they don't need you. So no, impossible. 0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:08.600 When I said don't want to be a world champion 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.600 body but that was impossible. When I didn't want to 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:15.200 get into movies, that was impossible. So it was always impossible. 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:20.160 So I felt that we can go and defend ourselves 0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:24.200 from that and just not listen to the naysayers. But 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:29.000 if I start having a plan B, then all of 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:33.239 a sudden, I'm becoming in a way and they say 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:37.919 it to myself. So because that means now that I'm saying, well, 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.200 maybe this isn't working out, and if it's not working out, 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.799 we should have a plan B. So to me, this 0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:48.560 is the most dangerous of all the they sayers is 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:53.799 me saying no, and it's impossible, maybe to myself. So 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:57.880 therefore I felt the best way of handling that is 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.319 is not to have a safety net and not to 0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:06.200 have a plan B. That I'm at risk and therefore 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.200 I have to be at all times on the edge 0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.319 and a ten so I don't fall where I would 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.440 need a safety net. This is the way I had 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.840 dealt with that issue. Never have a plan B. Always 0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:24.399 go for go all out with my plan and really 0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.520 put one hundred percent of effort into it in order 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.600 to really achieve it. And I just always believed in 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.680 my goals. I mean, I remember when I ran for 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:36.920 governor and people said you're crazy. I mean, you know 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.359 this great Davis is going to take you out, and 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.400 then if he doesn't push the monthy is the lieutenant governor. 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.840 There's all seasoned politicians. You don't know anything about politics, 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:47.880 and blah blah blah. Why don't you run first for 0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.960 mayor and why don't you do this? No. I was 0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:57.919 very clear with my vision. I could see myself as 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:03.160 the governor because I felt that the people in California 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:08.359 were very upset at the regular politicians. I mean, they 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:13.280 were always talking about what they know and how smart 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.000 they are and how they're going to fix things. In 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:21.040 the meantime, we had a thirty billion dollar deficit. In 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:25.400 the meantime, we're blackouts. In the meantime, they were handing 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:30.840 out driver's license to illegal immigrants or they called undocumented immigrants, 0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:35.280 and everything that the people were against, and the people 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:41.000 didn't like the Indian gaming tribes were gambling and having 0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:45.319 gambling casinos but not being taxes, so they were mad 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.200 about that. So I would just tell people if I 0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:52.160 become governor, I would change all that. And the workers' 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:57.440 compensation costs for businesses in California, I would cut it 0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:01.120 in half. That's why so many businesses left California because 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.040 of the costs of doing business. So I said, I 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.400 were cut it in half. And so this is exactly 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:12.000 people bought in because I was talking believable. I mean, 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.000 there was I could put my hand in the fire 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:17.640 for the people to do the things that I promised 0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.120 those things will be done, and I said I would 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.600 do it most of those things before breakfast, the first 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:26.480 event I'm in office. So that always sounded good, so 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:30.360 in anykay. So but the people bought in. And I 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:34.439 remember that when President Bush and this guy has called 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.400 me from the White House. They said, you want the 0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:39.040 president to come out the campaign for you. I said no, no, no, no, no, 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.680 I said, because then it becomes kind of a political thing. 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:46.839 But the Republicans are helping each other. And then Greg 0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:49.560 Davis is going to have out, you know, Bill Clinton, 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.520 and I'll go and John Carry and you know all 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:56.319 of those guys. And that's exactly what happened. He had 0:51:56.360 --> 0:52:01.239 all those people come out campaign for him. And I told, oh, 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:05.319 my guys, no, don't come out because I wanted to 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:09.800 be the David and not the goliath. I want to 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.799 be the underdog and kind of say, look, this is 0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:16.840 just between me and the voters. So that was my vision, 0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.880 not a political strategy vision, but I mean that was 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:24.320 my vision. I said, I have to be the person 0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:27.359 that is by himself that is kind of crawling up there, 0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:31.000 and that it's communicating with the voters. I don't need 0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.080 someone to speak for me or anything like that. Yes, yeah, 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.200 you and communications director and all this stuff. But I 0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:39.720 didn't need to have President Bush come out and speak 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:41.960 for me. I didn't have to have the Vice president 0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.560 come out to speak for or anything like this. I 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:47.240 wanted this between me and the thing, and it worked. 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:51.640 People figured it out that I'm out there that I'm 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.759 promising them, and they bought into it. And that one 0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:57.560 and so this is why it is so important that 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:04.799 did you have really a one percent belief and not 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.520 having to go and say, my plan B if this 0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:10.080 doesn't work is I'm going to go back to movies. 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.399 But they would unfold anyway, you know. So, but let's 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.040 first go all out and not have a plan B. 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.359 This is the thing. And so I've never had a 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:18.799 plan B. 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:23.239 Yeah. No, it's really really great clarity again of just 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:27.040 determination that there's no other options. And I like what 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:29.640 you said, Well, what really connected with me at least 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:31.960 is this idea of how you can become your own 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.760 naysayer right now having a plan B, is you talking 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.560 yourself out of why you should go all in. 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.960 Or you're you're already putting it on a kind of 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:42.840 shaky grounds. 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:44.600 Yes, yeah, go yeah, you're already setting it. 0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.640 You already say well if we wait a minute, If 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.960 you say if, that means there's a possibility in your 0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:54.040 mind this could fail, and that is a dangerous road 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.320 to go. I think I agree. 0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:59.200 Where did you go when a few moments ago you 0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:01.839 were talking about how the kids are upset when your 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:06.160 governor obviously public gets upset when someone's in a position 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.200 of power. You've got all these people who rely on 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:12.799 you personally and professionally, and you even said to yourself like, 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.040 I couldn't really talk about it. You can't really, no 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.440 one can really understand that. What did you do at 0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:22.439 that time? Where did you go for connection and understanding 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:26.400 and even getting to talk to yourself at that time? 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:32.799 Well, you just have to find a compromise. So what 0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:35.520 you then do is you just say, Okay, I'm going 0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:37.920 to go and spend an extra day at home. So, 0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.719 because there was the choice being in Los Angeles, a 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:44.959 lot of days or the been Sacramento. So I spent 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.840 four days a week in Sacramento and three days a 0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:52.000 week in Los Angeles. And I decided then to spend 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.279 another day in Los Angeles and to go to this 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.640 school recital or to go to some kind of a 0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:02.719 practice sessions of you know, my kid playing football or 0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.479 baseball or something like that, and to go to those things. 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.239 So to figure out a way, and it didn't take 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:12.200 anything away from my public service, but it gave a 0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:15.520 little bit more time FaceTime for the kids. And you know, 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:19.440 it really is absolutely crucial for the kids, not just 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.440 to see their mom coming to school, but then he 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.840 did dad also, you know, And so that's exactly what 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.680 it did. And I totally understood. I talked to my 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:32.240 wife about it. But like I said on the aunt, 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:38.799 she was really the one that was the powerhouse in 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:43.080 the family because she spent I would say, eighty percent 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.800 of the time with the kids and I did twenty 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:48.799 percent because I was stuck in Sacramento. And even though 0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.839 she worked also as first lady, and she was in Sacramento, 0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:55.360 but she spent much more time with the kids. And luckily, 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.160 when you have a good partner then you can do 0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:00.160 a lot of those things alone. I couldn't have done it. 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:03.239 Yeah, definitely. And you mentioned I think in the documentary too, 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.200 that if there was an oscars for divorces, then you 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.680 should get one because of how even in that circumstance 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.560 you both have found a way to let the kindness 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:14.480 be even the way you're speaking about Yeah. 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:19.600 Because because it's kind of the most important thing is 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:24.000 it's one thing if you suffer through it. It's another 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:27.279 thing if your wife suffers through it. But the kids 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.920 are really totally innocent bystanders, right, So we had too 0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:32.600 kind of My wife and I have a very good 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:37.360 working together, so the kids don't really feel a bump 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:40.839 in the road, and that's things are smooth for them. 0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:45.640 And again it's important. I mean I saw it very 0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:48.879 clearly that it can be done, and we did it, 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.759 and we were very happy with the outcome. We're very, 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.360 very proud of our kids. I mean, they're extraordinary. 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.920 Yeah. I had the fortune of interviewing Catherine probably a 0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:00.440 couple of years ago when her book came out, so 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.320 I've got to have some interaction with her and Maria 0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:04.120 and I've had several interactions too, and. 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:09.360 Katherine is a carbon copy of Maria, and Maria is 0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:13.120 a carbon copy of Eunice, and Unice is a carbon 0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:16.280 copy of Rose Kennedy. So this is how it goes 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:20.480 down to me. It's like they're like clones. They exactly 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.200 you know, exactly what you get from them. I mean, 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.600 it's like Katrine, I mean, I'm so proud of her 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:28.960 of what the woman she has become, and so is 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:32.800 with Christina, with my other daughter and the boys. It's 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:35.720 just it's a lot of fun. I never thought that 0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:38.919 having kids would be that much fun, I said, because 0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:41.560 I only in the beginning. I always thought about, you know, 0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:43.480 the work that it would take, you know, to take 0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:45.720 them to school and to go to their recitals and 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:48.600 the practices and to teach them and to have to 0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:51.840 swimming coach o when you know you have to just 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:53.720 be part of everything you have to teach them, to 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:57.920 teach them, you know, from just swimming to running, to 0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:02.760 football to what snow skiing. You know, you have to 0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:08.120 just be on top of everything. And also having animals, 0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:11.200 because one of the most important things with kids is 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:13.920 if you have the space. That is, if you're in 0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.520 a little tiny apartment and maybe a cat is good, 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:20.000 but the mean normally it's kind of like good when 0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.640 you have dogs or when you have like we have 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:27.600 a miniature pony, We had horses, a donkey and the 0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:31.920 Lulu the miniature donkey. We had pigs now I have 0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:36.120 a pig again. The kids and the anymore. But it 0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:39.000 never stops. But I mean so because the kids grow 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.160 up with this animals and you teach them how to 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:47.439 take care of them. This is extremely important because they 0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:50.880 have to have a sense of responsibility. You can't just say, oh, 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:52.400 I would like to have a rabbit or I would 0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:55.240 like to have a pig. Yeah, but you take care 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:57.760 of it. So that's what they've learned. 0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:02.080 One of the lessons in your book is sell, sell, sell, 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:04.400 and we just talked about it now. When you're talking 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.480 about almost selling yourself to become governor, there's a certain 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:13.320 promotion marketing approach to galvanizing people to get behind you. 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.600 And I think the word sales and selling has a 0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:21.480 lot of people have a negative connotation or a difficulty 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:25.240 with selling because it almost feels like there has to 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:28.040 be something fake about it. I've always found that if 0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:30.720 you're proud of what you're selling, if you really believe 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.080 in it, then it's easier to sell it. But generally 0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.640 people have a challenge with like the word cell. But 0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:37.560 you say one of your lessons is sell, sell, sell, 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:41.160 So walk us through how you were able to I mean, obviously, 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:45.800 even all the movies, the franchises you've created, it requires promotion, 0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:48.840 it requires selling, and of course they were highly entertaining. 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:51.439 But tell us what you learned about how to sell 0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:53.520 effectively but also authentically. 0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:56.840 First of all, I think you're totally right that the 0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:03.080 words selling sometimes comes off sleazy. So that's why I 1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:07.400 can call it promotion or communicating or whatever you call it. 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:11.480 And the point of it is that you can have 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:14.919 the best product in the world, But if no one 1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:19.600 knows about it, what's the point of the product? I mean, 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:24.600 I would I like to know, for instance, if there 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:29.640 is someone out there that does a heart surgery or 1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:33.640 valve replacement without having to have open heart surgery. But 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:35.200 if I don't know, I would just go to the 1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:37.080 husband and say I won't have an open heart surgery 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:39.200 and I want to get the valve replaced. But if 1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:42.680 I know because they promoted it, well, I can go 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:45.080 down and call that expert and then go and say, so, 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:48.360 this is why I think it's so important. So to me, 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:52.960 I learned the art of selling way back when I 1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.080 was fifteen years old, when I was in trade school, 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.280 and when I was working for this lumberyard, kind of 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:03.000 construction company, hardware store. It was like a combination of things. 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:08.000 We were taught how to sell the merchandise, and then 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:11.120 sometimes we were able to follow the guid that is 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:15.040 the boss. And he one time said to missus, Arnold, 1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.240 why don't you help me here? And he would talk 1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:24.000 to the customer, and I realized quickly that there was 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:26.600 something art going on that all of a sudden his 1:01:26.720 --> 1:01:31.680 attention focused on the wife. It was this couple. They 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:35.880 wanted to have some tiles for the bathroom and for 1:01:35.960 --> 1:01:39.400 the kitchen, and there he first talked to him and 1:01:39.440 --> 1:01:41.560 how much money does he want to spend in order 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:44.680 what colors? Then all of a sudden, it was like 1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:48.600 he ended up only talking to the woman. So he said, so, 1:01:48.640 --> 1:01:51.200 what did you learn? I say, well, I learned that 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:55.200 you were really very clear about all the advantages and 1:01:55.280 --> 1:01:59.600 disadvantages of the various different tiles and the verious different colors. 1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:03.320 He says, yeah, yeah, that's right. But it's one dimension, 1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:06.000 but what else, I said, I don't know. He says, 1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:08.760 did you see how I shifted and my attention went 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:12.200 from the husband to the wife? I said, yeah, yeah, 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:14.960 what was that all about? And he says, well, I 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:19.520 realized that he had really no interest in the tiles 1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:22.600 and what color should be, what type real tiles or 1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:29.320 fake tiles or what. It was her vision and it 1:02:29.360 --> 1:02:33.240 was her desire to have new tiles, and he just 1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:35.480 went along with it because he's the husband, is the 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:38.200 provider of the family. He makes the money. She didn't 1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:41.680 make the money, but she had a very clear vision 1:02:41.760 --> 1:02:45.800 of what she wanted. So I shifted my focus because 1:02:45.880 --> 1:02:50.320 I realized that she is the customer, not him, and 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:52.720 you got to go and be able to reach the customer. 1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:55.840 And this is why I started talking to her more. 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.160 It was and then he just out of courtesy, said so, 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:02.640 what do you think should have delivered on Thursday? And says, yeah, whenever, 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:05.800 you will just always say whatever, And she says, Friday 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:08.480 is better because Friday, my husband is at home in 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:10.240 the afternoon, so he can help you carrying all this 1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:12.880 stuff up to the second floor and flower. So she 1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:15.959 was much more precise and so that's why he spent 1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:19.120 most of his time with that. So those are the 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:22.720 things that I've learned when I was selling, and how 1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:25.400 important it is to actually let the people know that 1:03:25.480 --> 1:03:29.000 you have this product I was. I went right after 1:03:29.080 --> 1:03:33.040 that a few years later, I went to Munich and 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:38.240 I after the military, served there as a trainer in 1:03:38.320 --> 1:03:42.680 a body building gym and we had, like I remember, 1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:45.880 two hundred and eighty members, and there was another gym 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:49.320 in Munich that had five hundred members. And that guy 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:53.760 his name was Ryan huts Moulana. He was mister Europe 1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:57.440 and I was at this point not mister Europe yet. 1:03:57.480 --> 1:04:00.000 That was junior mister Europe, but not mister Europe net 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:03.800 yet and that didn't compete in any other international competitions. 1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:08.120 So I was training really hard. I said myself, if 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:11.360 I could go to the Mister Universe contest and I 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:16.520 compete and they do really well, I could maybe outdo him. 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:19.600 And so this is what I did. I trained really 1:04:19.600 --> 1:04:24.160 hard for months, and then in September was the Mister Universe. 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:26.880 End of September Mister Universe condest, and I happened to 1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:30.520 play second, which they called runner up. Yes, so this 1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:33.000 was my order that point was to be in the 1:04:33.040 --> 1:04:36.640 top six. Because I was nineteen years old. There was 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:41.400 second place winner. So when I came back from London 1:04:41.800 --> 1:04:47.080 to Munich, I ran around on a construction site which 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:52.040 is a baiting Sudan like a lunatic, and everyone was 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:54.520 dressed up in their suits and everything else, and they said, 1:04:54.520 --> 1:04:56.560 what is this guy doing? That was walking out on 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:59.640 the construction site and greeting people and all this stuff, 1:05:00.360 --> 1:05:04.400 hoping that some press would show up because there's this 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:08.040 crazy guy running around in the cold weather with just 1:05:08.080 --> 1:05:12.520 a bad little basing suit. And sure enough, newspaper showed up, 1:05:12.880 --> 1:05:15.280 a photographer showed up, and they asked me after it's 1:05:15.280 --> 1:05:17.000 why are you running around like that? And they said, well, 1:05:17.760 --> 1:05:21.080 I want to make sure that my Gymnasium Universal Gym 1:05:21.480 --> 1:05:27.240 is in the newspaper. I said, okay, well let's take 1:05:27.280 --> 1:05:29.680 a good shot. When you take this saw over the end, 1:05:29.680 --> 1:05:32.200 you help this guy with the construction sat doing some 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:35.000 cutting off the wood and stuff, and then we would 1:05:35.000 --> 1:05:37.680 take we would create some pictures that are really funny, 1:05:37.680 --> 1:05:39.320 and they put it in the newspaper the next day 1:05:39.320 --> 1:05:42.160 and he says, Schwartzenegger just came back from mister Universe 1:05:42.520 --> 1:05:45.000 was running up in the Mister Universe contest, which makes 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:49.000 him the biggest title holder in Germany. Wow. So I 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:51.680 made it clear that they know that, not that the 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:54.280 Mister Europe is bigger or but the second in the 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:57.439 Mister univers is the biggest title holder. So he said 1:05:57.440 --> 1:05:59.800 there was like I was. Now that story was in 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:05.240 the paper and we had within no time, we had 1:06:05.280 --> 1:06:09.600 beaten him with the Timnasium membership and had over five 1:06:09.680 --> 1:06:13.160 hundred and his was low and he I remember him calling. 1:06:13.680 --> 1:06:15.600 So in fact, I worked out him myself in his 1:06:15.720 --> 1:06:19.280 gym because we worked out together, because it's much better 1:06:19.320 --> 1:06:21.440 when you have a good training partner that is a 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:25.360 champion himself. And we were laughing about it. So then 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:28.480 just to show you how important promotion is, so then 1:06:28.560 --> 1:06:33.720 he started secretly posting posters all over the city on 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:39.080 construction sites the Simulana gym. We train you, you become 1:06:39.080 --> 1:06:43.320 a champion, more energy, healthier body, this, this and that 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:46.959 and noticed stuff. So when I saw the posters, I said, 1:06:47.840 --> 1:06:50.240 I'm going to go and create posters myself for the gym. 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:54.960 So we created posters and then we went. I followed 1:06:55.000 --> 1:07:00.520 him with the car and he was going at ten 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:04.720 o'clock at night on Friday, putting the posters up there. 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:07.800 And then after you put the post up with the glue, 1:07:08.720 --> 1:07:12.000 he then left, and then I put my post on 1:07:12.080 --> 1:07:15.520 top of his wet glue because I came right after him. 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:19.080 I didn't wait until the tries went after him include 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:21.480 my post on top of him. And so this was 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:24.600 kind of like the post of war amongst the gym owners. 1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:27.640 It was hilarious, but it was all It was all 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:32.840 about selling memberships because I knew that my salary comes 1:07:32.840 --> 1:07:36.160 and it's getting paid for from those moneies that are 1:07:36.200 --> 1:07:39.360 coming in from the members, and so I wanted to 1:07:39.400 --> 1:07:41.960 be able to buy food supplements. I wanted to be 1:07:42.000 --> 1:07:45.200 able to buy myself good food and the trips to 1:07:45.280 --> 1:07:47.720 those various different competitions in order to say it was 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:50.560 very important that our membership goes up, that we are 1:07:50.600 --> 1:07:52.880 very successful. But it's all about selling. And so when 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:55.360 I came to America, there was in my ploot now 1:07:55.760 --> 1:08:01.120 selling and communicating and promoting. So when I did, I 1:08:01.160 --> 1:08:04.800 remember my book promotion I'm Not the Education of a Bodybuilder. 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:08.400 Simon and Schuster wanted to have it, you know, sell 1:08:08.440 --> 1:08:13.040 one hundred thousand copies. So I said, well, I want 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:15.440 to have it on the best seller list. No body 1:08:15.480 --> 1:08:18.519 building magazine was ever on the best seller list, forget 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:20.240 about that. I said, well, I said, let's give it 1:08:20.280 --> 1:08:23.240 a shot. How many cities do we go and promote 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:27.080 the book? And he says, well, here's six cities I suggests, 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:30.000 And so I said to him, I said, why don't 1:08:30.000 --> 1:08:33.839 we go to thirty cities? You're crazy? So he was laughing. 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:38.040 But then I put together schedule and for thirty cities 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:44.400 in thirty days, and I was crisscrossing America. I was 1:08:44.439 --> 1:08:49.440 going from ninety degree temperature in Miami up to Minnesota 1:08:49.880 --> 1:08:52.160 that was like in the below zero. So it was 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:56.280 literally like one hundred degree temperature differences in the same day. 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:59.840 So this is how much I crisscrossed this country. And 1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:03.040 it was absolutely fantastic. We want the best seller list. 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:06.280 We sold, you know, two hundred and fifty thousand hardcovers 1:09:06.320 --> 1:09:08.240 or whatever it was, and it was like a total 1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:11.960 smash as a body building and fitness book. And so 1:09:12.040 --> 1:09:16.479 this is again and over again I have seen that 1:09:16.680 --> 1:09:20.240 not just the will power to succeed, but to be 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:23.599 able to sell and to communicate and to be out 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:26.599 and to actually talk about it. You know, I think 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:29.160 it's important to let people know you don't have to 1:09:29.360 --> 1:09:33.040 force the issue into the heart cell where you talk 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:35.360 about all time. Buy my book and by and by it. 1:09:35.640 --> 1:09:37.040 This is the only way you're going to stay healthy. 1:09:37.040 --> 1:09:38.960 In the orders of no, you don't have to do that. 1:09:39.360 --> 1:09:42.080 It's just in an indirect way. But the key thing 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:44.840 is that when people walk away from the interview that 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:47.719 they know about it. And this is also very important. 1:09:47.720 --> 1:09:51.880 Like for instance, when when we were doing Johnny Corson Show, 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:55.879 you know, I was learning at that time about bridging. 1:09:56.479 --> 1:10:00.360 You know, where the bridge from a specific subject. Someone 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:03.400 asked you to then, what do you want to talk about? 1:10:04.200 --> 1:10:07.160 It's an art, you know. So my friend was vice 1:10:07.200 --> 1:10:10.519 president of Nationwide Insurance and he told me about it. 1:10:10.600 --> 1:10:13.479 He said that he has taken many seminars about the 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:16.960 you know, promotion because insurance business is very important. Did 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:20.360 you promote and did you communicate and publicize and orders? 1:10:20.520 --> 1:10:23.000 And so I asked him about it and he told me. 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:26.280 He says, well, bridging is one of the most important things. 1:10:26.640 --> 1:10:29.960 So he taught me about that, and of course I 1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:34.400 was on Johnny Corson Show promoting Conan the Babarian, just 1:10:34.439 --> 1:10:37.200 to give you an example. And Johnny Coston says, he says, so, 1:10:37.240 --> 1:10:39.320 oh no, this is really unbelieverable. It says that how 1:10:39.360 --> 1:10:41.360 long have you been working out? When did you start 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:43.679 and why did you start working out? So I said 1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:47.160 to myself, Okay, if I answered this question in a 1:10:47.240 --> 1:10:51.519 thorough way, he will not sell one to go to 1:10:51.560 --> 1:10:55.040 see Conan. So I said, I got to go and bridge. 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:58.599 And so what I did was the answered very briefly, 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:02.439 because you have to sound stupid if you talk about 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:04.840 something else. But I would say, say, Johnny, the very 1:11:04.840 --> 1:11:08.120 good question is say I was fifteen, but I tell you, 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:13.160 at fifteen I did not know that at one time 1:11:13.920 --> 1:11:18.160 it is absolutely essential to have this kind of a body. 1:11:18.520 --> 1:11:23.560 He says. Imagine Conan the Barbarian, the way Frank Frazetta 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:27.880 painted Cone and the Barbarian with the muscles amid the 1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:33.360 determination of yourself. And there was no one around to 1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:36.720 do this character. That's why they've never filmed Conan. I said, 1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:40.080 now here I come, missed the universe body, and now 1:11:40.120 --> 1:11:43.600 I do Conan the Barbarian, and it is now believable 1:11:44.080 --> 1:11:47.080 because people want to see me handle the sword and 1:11:47.160 --> 1:11:50.280 killing all these people. I said, it's believable because they 1:11:50.320 --> 1:11:52.920 see the muscles. So I said, now that my wildest 1:11:52.960 --> 1:11:55.360 dreams with fifteen, did I think that one day there's 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:58.920 muscles would be so important in the movies and stuff 1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:03.000 like that. So I sold now to answer this question. 1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:06.080 So I was fifteen, but I sold Conan the Barbarian, 1:12:06.479 --> 1:12:08.720 you know, the muscles and the fight scenes. And they 1:12:08.920 --> 1:12:11.040 then would add on and say there was just one 1:12:11.080 --> 1:12:13.360 scene in the camera, and I punched up the camera 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:16.160 and blah blah blahah. So you then just spice it up, 1:12:16.320 --> 1:12:20.320 and so this is what you know, selling and communicating 1:12:20.400 --> 1:12:24.880 is all about. I was very fortunate that my head 1:12:25.040 --> 1:12:29.280 was in that so much because when I was governor, 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:33.400 that is the most important thing to communicate to the people, 1:12:33.439 --> 1:12:34.960 because otherwise how do you get their boat? 1:12:35.280 --> 1:12:35.599 Yeah? 1:12:35.680 --> 1:12:38.160 Right, So you need the people. You need to go 1:12:38.240 --> 1:12:42.479 and say here's why we need infrastructure. We need to 1:12:42.560 --> 1:12:47.000 rebuild our roads. We need to build extra freeways, extra highways, 1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:50.839 extra tunnels and bridges and on rams and off rams. 1:12:51.200 --> 1:12:55.479 I say why, because you want to go do you 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:57.720 kids school and watch them play football. You don't want 1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:00.240 to be late two hours? I say, how many people 1:13:00.280 --> 1:13:02.920 get stuck in traffic. Neverone will be raising their hands 1:13:03.040 --> 1:13:07.000 and say, well, let's eliminate it. Let's terminate this problem, 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:11.440 let's build my roads. Vote yes and proposition one A. 1:13:11.600 --> 1:13:15.720 So I explained it to them, not just talking about infrastructure, 1:13:15.880 --> 1:13:19.920 which politicians normally do. But people don't know what infrastructure is. 1:13:20.680 --> 1:13:23.320 I cannot expect them to know. With infrastructures. Is it 1:13:23.360 --> 1:13:26.080 the electric lines, the power lines? Is it the plumbing? 1:13:26.160 --> 1:13:28.680 Is it the sewage? Is it the building freeways? Is 1:13:28.720 --> 1:13:32.120 it building high speed rail? What is infrastructure? All of 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:34.840 this is infrastructure, but cer you have to explain it 1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:37.479 to people by saying, do you ever get stuck in traffic? 1:13:38.160 --> 1:13:40.840 Of course everyone does, So then you say, well, let's 1:13:40.840 --> 1:13:43.920 build my freeways. Let's go and vote for this so 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:47.560 they don't get stuck in traffic. So then then know, ah, 1:13:47.760 --> 1:13:50.799 it moves the traffic fast because we get stuck in traffic. 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:56.200 So this is why communicating, communicating, communicating, selling, selling, selling, 1:13:56.479 --> 1:13:57.360 This is what it is about. 1:13:57.400 --> 1:13:59.760 Oh, those a great story is great examples. Yeah, I 1:13:59.760 --> 1:14:02.639 love I hope everyone who's listening and watching can latch 1:14:02.680 --> 1:14:05.120 on and get some insights for their own challenges. Those 1:14:05.160 --> 1:14:07.280 are great, and I love that you're going all the 1:14:07.320 --> 1:14:10.519 way from governor through to the gym and the story 1:14:10.520 --> 1:14:13.800 of you running around in your swimsuit is brilliant. What's 1:14:13.840 --> 1:14:17.000 the There was one story actually that aligns with that 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:19.760 selling point that Will Smith tells of meeting you, and 1:14:19.760 --> 1:14:21.360 he said that he walked into a room and it 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:25.599 was you, Sylvester Stallone and John Claude van Dam and 1:14:25.640 --> 1:14:28.240 you were the three that inspired him to go international. 1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:30.320 So he said that when he spoke to you three, 1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:32.120 you all said to him that the market in the 1:14:32.240 --> 1:14:35.480 USA is huge, but until he become a global superstar, 1:14:35.760 --> 1:14:38.439 you're not really a superstar. And so in the same 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:39.760 way as you were saying you were going around the 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:42.479 thirty cities of the US, you've done a lot of 1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:44.240 world touring as well for the movies. 1:14:44.560 --> 1:14:47.160 Well, I explained to him that when I got in 1:14:47.240 --> 1:14:50.120 the movies and talking about Conan the Barbarian was my 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:53.840 first big international movie. Again, the studio says, we're going 1:14:53.880 --> 1:14:59.040 to send you to Khan to the film firstival was 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:02.400 then we're going to go and send you to London 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:08.040 and maybe the Rome and definitely to Japan. So I said, well, 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:11.040 why are we only going to four places. They said, well, 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:14.360 this is where the big markets are Germany, but the 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:16.720 Germans always come to England. Maybe do the press chun 1:15:16.800 --> 1:15:19.400 kits in England so the Germans are taken care of. 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:23.160 Then we have the Japanese. We go to Japan and 1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:25.400 you're going to do a big promotion there, and then 1:15:25.479 --> 1:15:29.160 then America. Those are the three big markets. So I said, okay, 1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:32.519 if this is the three big markets, I said, when 1:15:32.560 --> 1:15:36.639 I look at the globe today, I see so many 1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:41.200 other potential markets. I said, you don't want to build those, 1:15:41.880 --> 1:15:44.639 you don't want to create those. So I told will Smith, 1:15:44.640 --> 1:15:47.479 I said the story, I said. I told them, I said, 1:15:47.680 --> 1:15:49.720 I'm going to go to France. I'm going to go 1:15:49.720 --> 1:15:53.080 to England, to Germany, to Holland, to Finland, to Sweden, 1:15:53.280 --> 1:15:55.599 to Norway. I want to go all over the place. 1:15:55.760 --> 1:15:57.599 I want to go to the Middle East. I want 1:15:57.640 --> 1:15:59.880 to go to Africa. I want to go to Australia. 1:16:00.160 --> 1:16:02.040 I want to go all over the place. And said that. 1:16:02.240 --> 1:16:05.519 They said, you're nuts. I said so because I was 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:08.439 thinking about two things. One is to promote the movie 1:16:08.640 --> 1:16:11.040 and the other one is I have to promote myself. 1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:13.599 Because most people know me as a bodybuilder, not as 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:16.080 an actor. So this is a good opportunity for me 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:19.320 to go around the world for the next month and 1:16:19.360 --> 1:16:23.000 to promote myself as well. I now I'm doing movies, 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:25.680 and this is my first big movie. It's you know, 1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:29.680 it's called The Barbarian. So it was like a great opportunity. 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:32.599 So I told him that, I said, so I slowly 1:16:32.760 --> 1:16:38.760 started building an international market, and the studios were extremely 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:45.040 pleased because every one of my movies started to get 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:49.040 bigger and bigger internationally. So it used to be that 1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:54.520 one third was international box office and two thirds was domestic. 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:58.559 Then with me, it started going to be fifty to 1:16:58.560 --> 1:17:04.559 fifty domestic, fifty percent international, and eventually it became one 1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:08.400 third domestic and two thirds international. So imagine how much 1:17:08.439 --> 1:17:11.400 more money that it added because of that. And so 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:13.439 this was a tremendous powers. I said to them, I said, 1:17:13.720 --> 1:17:16.840 don't ever assume that everyone would know about the movie. 1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:19.080 And so you got to go there. You've got to 1:17:19.120 --> 1:17:22.439 show your face. The people, the journalists like to shake 1:17:22.520 --> 1:17:25.120 your hand. They like to sit down on the round 1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:29.439 table with all of them mic sticking out the ten 1:17:29.920 --> 1:17:33.160 leading radio programs of that country. They sit there all 1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:35.760 day on the table. You're that the eleventh person that 1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.679 sits there, and now you're telling them stories about the movie. 1:17:39.439 --> 1:17:41.759 I said. They go back to the radio station, says, 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:45.480 I have an exclusive interview with Will Smith and he's 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:48.520 coming up with this movie. It is hot. He looks fantastic, 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:50.920 great actor or is it? I say, hey, how can 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:55.240 it hurt? But do it? Just promote yourself internationally and 1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:59.160 go from country to country. And he said, thank you 1:17:59.240 --> 1:18:02.280 for this really great advice, because if the studio would 1:18:02.320 --> 1:18:04.120 have said that to me, I would have just said, 1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:06.439 what did you want to use me? Because but you're 1:18:06.479 --> 1:18:09.400 saying it. I buy in, I believe it. And he 1:18:09.520 --> 1:18:11.920 has been thankful ever since because of that. 1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:14.839 Yeah, yeah, it's great advice. It's great advice, but it's 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:16.880 it's it's you know, you've got to always let people 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:22.000 know that there's nothing sleazy about the marketing. And there's 1:18:22.280 --> 1:18:24.720 so many actors always feel like it's beneath them to 1:18:24.760 --> 1:18:26.040 go out and sell the movie. 1:18:26.479 --> 1:18:29.280 And they tell them. I said, look, no matter what 1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:33.000 you do, if you're a painter and you paint great paintings, 1:18:33.760 --> 1:18:36.799 or if you're a musician and you want to promote 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:40.439 an album, or if you're a movie act and you 1:18:40.520 --> 1:18:43.160 promote the movie. I said, you have to do that 1:18:44.080 --> 1:18:46.280 because it's the only way people who know about it. 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:49.599 The more you do and the better you do it, 1:18:49.640 --> 1:18:54.360 and to actually say the right things about the movie 1:18:54.400 --> 1:18:57.240 that is snappy, that really makes people curious when it goes. 1:18:57.560 --> 1:18:59.760 That's why it's all. It's an art by itself, not 1:18:59.800 --> 1:19:02.920 just the acting is an art, but the sullen is 1:19:02.960 --> 1:19:04.000 an art as well. 1:19:04.280 --> 1:19:06.920 Yeah, what I love about what you're saying is, you know, 1:19:07.000 --> 1:19:09.040 for me as well, I only moved to LA five 1:19:09.120 --> 1:19:11.679 years ago, and I feel like I can be quite 1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:15.120 audacious and you know, driven as well. And so when 1:19:15.160 --> 1:19:17.160 I'm listening to you, what I always find it's interesting 1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:20.160 because the most successful people in the world they have 1:19:20.439 --> 1:19:24.520 this audacity in that they already see it as reality, 1:19:25.080 --> 1:19:28.519 and everyone else because it's so audacious, people are trying 1:19:28.560 --> 1:19:30.240 to catch up or they can't really see it, they 1:19:30.320 --> 1:19:33.080 can't figure it out. And you almost have to have 1:19:33.120 --> 1:19:36.200 that trust that you know where it can go and 1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:40.120 how big it can get. Having actually achieved all your goals, 1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:43.439 becoming the biggest bodybuilder of all time, going further becoming 1:19:43.479 --> 1:19:46.320 this huge movie star you know, you just said that 1:19:46.360 --> 1:19:48.360 you had to go to educate people at one point 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:50.759 that you even were a movie star. I think you've 1:19:51.240 --> 1:19:55.080 been good at redefining yourself and re educating people about 1:19:55.080 --> 1:19:58.880 who you are, from bodybuilding to movies to obviously governor 1:19:58.880 --> 1:20:02.519 of California. How does it feel to have lived out 1:20:02.800 --> 1:20:06.200 so many of your visions that you saw so clearly 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:09.920 as that young man in Austria, How does that actually 1:20:09.920 --> 1:20:10.760 feel well? 1:20:11.040 --> 1:20:13.439 To be honest with you, I always say to people, 1:20:13.960 --> 1:20:17.519 I would never switch my life with anyone's life, no 1:20:17.520 --> 1:20:23.360 matter who it is, because I think that I am 1:20:23.400 --> 1:20:28.240 the most privileged person in the world. I mean, it's 1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:33.320 like to be able to live this many types of lives, 1:20:33.760 --> 1:20:37.240 to live the life of an athlete, of an amateur, 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:42.000 of a professional, to really get the inside scoop, because 1:20:42.000 --> 1:20:45.160 when you get the inside scoop of one profession, of 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:49.040 one sport, you pretty much because you hang out with 1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:51.800 the bet top football players, with Joe Namath, all of 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:54.639 these guys in the seventies, I mean, and with George 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:57.320 Foreman and Muhammad Ali, so you get to know really 1:20:57.320 --> 1:21:00.880 the inside of all sports basically, and uh, I think 1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:05.920 to learn everything about sports to then learn everything about entertainment. 1:21:06.280 --> 1:21:09.360 To be now with the greatest of the greatest. I mean, 1:21:09.439 --> 1:21:15.760 imagine that I still met people like Frank Sinatra and 1:21:17.080 --> 1:21:22.960 Bob Hope, Uh, Sammy Davis Junior, Dean Martin and all 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:25.879 of those guys. The guy that trained me in comedy 1:21:25.960 --> 1:21:28.920 was built, Milton Burrow, and then the all these old 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:33.160 timer guys, Jimmy Stewart, I mean, the list goes on, 1:21:33.280 --> 1:21:36.240 Lucille Ball, the list goes on and on and on. 1:21:36.520 --> 1:21:40.280 To meet all these people, to work with them, to 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:43.679 do photo shoots with them, to go to parties with them, 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:47.360 to be at dinner with them, at charity event events 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:50.439 with them, I mean, it's really staggering to have this 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:53.479 kind of experience, and then to travel around the world 1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:57.240 and to meet or the political leaders from Gorbachev and 1:21:58.120 --> 1:22:01.280 you know, every president in the UN States from around 1:22:01.320 --> 1:22:05.080 with Reagan to Jimmy Carter, the George Bush and everyone that. 1:22:05.200 --> 1:22:08.120 The lists on and on, Clinton and all those guys, 1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:13.400 aller It, Nixon, I mean everyone I met and talk 1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:18.360 to and hung out with and learn from Mandela. So 1:22:18.520 --> 1:22:22.320 it is just like, I mean, who has the privilege 1:22:23.360 --> 1:22:26.880 to do that and to travel around the Middle East 1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:30.519 and to do the things that people say you can't do, 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:33.920 like to go from an Arab country to Israel or 1:22:33.960 --> 1:22:37.120 from Eastra there. I hop back and forth all over 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:41.960 the place, from Iraq to Jordan, to Israel to Kuwait, 1:22:42.400 --> 1:22:45.439 I mean everywhere, and uh, you know, visiting the American 1:22:45.520 --> 1:22:49.400 soldiers over there and to be there, I mean, it's 1:22:49.920 --> 1:22:52.599 it's staggering, this kind of life. And then to go 1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:56.160 into the political arena, and then to figure out what 1:22:56.479 --> 1:23:00.120 makes really a city or a state or come to 1:23:00.320 --> 1:23:03.320 run and tick and what kind of players do you need? 1:23:03.360 --> 1:23:07.120 And how do you negotiate with all these people? And 1:23:07.200 --> 1:23:10.800 how do you bring Democrats and Republicans together, and how 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:13.120 do you come up with your own vision of how 1:23:13.200 --> 1:23:15.840 things should work? Because very quickly, you know, I was 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:22.040 a hardcore Republican, but very quickly I realized that that's 1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:25.000 not where the action is. The action is not with 1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:31.000 one party. That America is Democrats and Republicans declined to 1:23:31.080 --> 1:23:36.280 state independents together and so that's the team. And as 1:23:36.320 --> 1:23:39.439 a team together we can do great things. But if 1:23:39.439 --> 1:23:42.559 you start splitting the team, U start falling apart. It's 1:23:42.600 --> 1:23:45.400 like any football team or basketball team. So I said, myself. 1:23:45.439 --> 1:23:51.160 The action is honard bringing them together. Don't insult the Democrats, 1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:55.880 don't insult anybody, bring them together, and let's be a 1:23:55.920 --> 1:23:59.439 public servant rather than a party servant. And so that 1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:01.920 was my new theme. I was so proud of myself 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:05.320 as it. Maybe five thousand other politicians have talked about this, 1:24:05.560 --> 1:24:07.880 but I mean Obama said there's a blue state and 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:11.400 read state. There's only the United States. But there's a 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:14.160 bogus lines. Really, I mean it sounds good, but I 1:24:14.200 --> 1:24:17.720 mean the reality is different. So you really have to 1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:21.519 show leadership quality, and you really have to kind of 1:24:21.840 --> 1:24:24.640 make an effort to bring both of them together and 1:24:24.680 --> 1:24:27.680 to be not afraid to say to the Democrats, as 1:24:27.680 --> 1:24:32.840 a Republican, I need your help, but together we can 1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:36.320 solve this problem. I cannot do a long healthcare reform 1:24:36.320 --> 1:24:39.800 as a Republican. I need the Democrats, I need everybody, 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:41.519 you know. So this is the kind of things, of 1:24:41.680 --> 1:24:45.639 building infrastructure, doing anything in this state. It was our 1:24:45.680 --> 1:24:48.679 best work we did together. So I cannot give any 1:24:48.720 --> 1:24:51.200 party a credit. I have to give credit to the 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:54.639 politicians and to the people. And the people really enjoyed 1:24:54.640 --> 1:24:58.599 that when Democrats and Republicans got together and campaigned together 1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:02.400 for propositions, to vote for the certain propositions in order. 1:25:02.439 --> 1:25:07.160 So I think so I was very, very privileged to 1:25:07.240 --> 1:25:09.680 be able to do all of those things and to 1:25:09.800 --> 1:25:14.720 have millions of people listen to you and vote for you. 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:21.000 And then of course goes to another chapter and another 1:25:21.120 --> 1:25:24.439 subject in a book, which is, you know, give something 1:25:24.520 --> 1:25:27.720 back to the community, you know, because we are not 1:25:27.840 --> 1:25:31.120 self made people. And I talk about this at great 1:25:31.160 --> 1:25:34.360 length in the book because you know, people so many 1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:37.240 times call me a self made man. I know what 1:25:37.280 --> 1:25:39.439 you're talking about, but I always want to make clear 1:25:39.479 --> 1:25:42.200 at the same time, I'm not a self made man. 1:25:42.400 --> 1:25:44.599 I was created by my mother and my father. I 1:25:44.640 --> 1:25:47.320 was created by my teachers, by my coaches, by my 1:25:47.400 --> 1:25:52.479 body building champions that they were my idols, and Joe Wheder, 1:25:52.560 --> 1:25:55.360 they brought me to America, Eric Morris who was my 1:25:55.439 --> 1:25:59.080 acting coach, Chuck Nicholson that recommended this acting coach. So 1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:01.759 all of these people I had, it's a tremendous amount. 1:26:01.960 --> 1:26:04.120 My wife did help me in every step of the way, 1:26:04.360 --> 1:26:06.799 you know, with the kids, that my kids were really 1:26:06.800 --> 1:26:10.200 helpful in my career. So I am a product of 1:26:10.240 --> 1:26:13.080 all of that and so I think it's important that 1:26:13.080 --> 1:26:16.000 when mean recognize that we have gotten the help, they'll 1:26:16.000 --> 1:26:19.479 be therefore give help back. So that's why you have 1:26:19.520 --> 1:26:22.599 to ask yourself the question, Okay, now, if everyone helped 1:26:22.600 --> 1:26:24.840 me to be where I am, how can I go 1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:28.320 out and help Who can I help? What can I 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:32.840 help them with? And I talk about it in a 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:35.800 book that my father in law, Sergeant S. Driver, had 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:40.760 this great line at the university speech at Yale where 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:44.639 you said, don't look always in a mirror, don't look 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:49.120 at yourself. You know, destroy that mirror. You will be 1:26:49.160 --> 1:26:52.200 able to look beyond that mirror, and then you will 1:26:52.240 --> 1:26:55.760 see the millions of people that need your help. And 1:26:55.880 --> 1:27:00.080 so this what is all about, is to not just 1:27:00.400 --> 1:27:04.400 look at yourself or be self consumed. Yes you can be, 1:27:05.160 --> 1:27:09.400 but don't forget ever that there's a lot of people 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:13.640 out there that need your help. And even though when 1:27:13.720 --> 1:27:16.800 people say, well what can I do? I'm a nobody, 1:27:17.160 --> 1:27:20.360 I don't have any money, it's focus. It's an excuse 1:27:20.520 --> 1:27:22.879 right off the top that I don't want to do anything. 1:27:23.560 --> 1:27:29.639 Because when you see Hawaii burning down to the ground, 1:27:30.680 --> 1:27:33.080 there's a lot of things that everyone can do, but 1:27:33.320 --> 1:27:37.000 just taking some food and bringing it to this poor folks, 1:27:37.280 --> 1:27:40.800 bringing some clothing, going out and going to some fundraising 1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:44.000 and bring a few dollars to them. Whatever it is 1:27:44.439 --> 1:27:47.280 you can do something, or to go into some inner 1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:50.560 city school and to help with an after school program 1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:54.120 and to help kids learn how to read, especially since 1:27:55.240 --> 1:27:58.920 in America now we have so many students that are 1:27:58.960 --> 1:28:01.920 English is the second language, you know, to help them 1:28:02.120 --> 1:28:04.759 to learn English and all this stuff. So there's endless 1:28:04.800 --> 1:28:07.439 amount of things. I just always felt that I have 1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:10.080 to be all out. I remember when Rudy Giuliani called 1:28:10.080 --> 1:28:12.439 me when he was mayor of New York. He said, 1:28:12.439 --> 1:28:14.479 oh my god, you know that buildings came down and 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:17.960 we're creating a Twin Tower fund. Can you send a 1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:20.920 million dollars? I said, yah, you got it tomorrow in 1:28:20.960 --> 1:28:22.760 two seconds. I didn't even think about it, you know. 1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:26.400 So that's what you do when when we need needed masks. 1:28:27.439 --> 1:28:32.160 When COVID broke out and and Los Angeles, the hospitals 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:34.680 didn't have any masks. So I immediately put in a 1:28:34.720 --> 1:28:39.200 million dollars towards a fund that we put together uh 1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:41.479 to do to raise eight million dollars and then to 1:28:41.520 --> 1:28:45.960 get masks from all over the world and especially from 1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:49.200 Asian countries, and so we can supply them with masks 1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:53.479 and gowns and with gloves and with vandilators and stuff 1:28:53.520 --> 1:28:56.479 like that. There was a company called flex Port that 1:28:57.880 --> 1:29:00.960 was was within days got a the mask. Even though 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:03.559 the government said they're no mask around. They can get 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:06.479 any mask. So either this are things like that or 1:29:07.000 --> 1:29:08.960 doesn't matter if it's an Earthquaker. If this is that, 1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:11.160 you go out and you reach out. And that's why 1:29:11.200 --> 1:29:13.960 I'm involved in after school programs. That's why I was 1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:17.160 involved in Special Olympics and being a trained and a 1:29:17.200 --> 1:29:21.240 coach for Special Olympians to help them with the winning 1:29:21.320 --> 1:29:25.800 medals and becoming champions and all of stuff. So that's 1:29:25.840 --> 1:29:30.040 what life is all about. To receive and to give. 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:35.240 Was said, Arnold was said, and yeah, definitely more notes 1:29:35.240 --> 1:29:36.880 in the book for anyone who wants to dive into 1:29:36.920 --> 1:29:39.479 some of those stories. But Arnold, we end every episode 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:42.200 with a final five. So these are a fast five 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:44.599 where you have to answer each question in one word 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:48.519 or one sentence maximum. So these are your final five. 1:29:48.600 --> 1:29:51.439 The first question is what is the best advice you've 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:55.400 ever heard or received? Believe in yourself second question, what 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:58.040 is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? 1:29:58.360 --> 1:29:59.200 It can't be done. 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:03.360 Since question number three, You've mastered so many things in 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:06.200 your life. What are you currently trying to master? 1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:09.720 Bring all of my talents together and the one the 1:30:09.760 --> 1:30:15.439 show business, fitness and politics all in one and make 1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:20.360 that be my new kind of vision and drive to 1:30:20.400 --> 1:30:21.080 help the world. 1:30:21.280 --> 1:30:23.920 Wow, okay, I'm going to scrap the final hout. What 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:26.280 does that look like? That's fascinating. What does that look 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:28.320 like right now in your mind? As you develop it? 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:29.759 You can use more than one center. 1:30:30.160 --> 1:30:33.440 I want to be out there and help with environmental 1:30:33.479 --> 1:30:37.120 issues because I learned about that doing my governorship. I 1:30:37.120 --> 1:30:39.360 want to be out there and help with healthcare issues, 1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:46.040 with aging issues, with fitness issues, with entertaining issues, and 1:30:46.080 --> 1:30:48.880 because it's important and entertain people, so all of those 1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:53.080 kind of things. So I have to Schwarzenegger Institute where 1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:55.519 we deal with a lot of those very different issues 1:30:55.800 --> 1:30:59.000 and policies to make it the better world. And I 1:30:59.080 --> 1:31:03.160 have my Environmental Conference in Vienna every year where the 1:31:03.200 --> 1:31:07.120 world comes together. Eighty ninety countries come together and we 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:10.160 talk about the environment and how to make this a 1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:15.840 fastil feel free, world and reduce pollution so we don't 1:31:15.840 --> 1:31:18.839 have seven million people die every year because of pollution. 1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:22.120 Beautiful, I can't wait to see the impact you have 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:26.040 in that space. Question number four has two parts to it. 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:29.800 What is your biggest personal success and what is your 1:31:29.800 --> 1:31:31.160 biggest personal failure? 1:31:31.320 --> 1:31:36.599 Well, I think that my biggest personal success is to 1:31:36.680 --> 1:31:38.760 be able to do the things that I wanted to do, 1:31:39.040 --> 1:31:42.200 that the visualize them and turn them into reality. And 1:31:42.240 --> 1:31:45.880 I think my biggest failure obviously is my marriage. Think 1:31:46.080 --> 1:31:48.519 that from a personal point of view and from a 1:31:48.520 --> 1:31:52.280 professional point of view, I've had many movies going to toilet. 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:56.719 I've lost bodybuilding competitions and powerlifting competitions and all that stuff. 1:31:56.800 --> 1:31:59.600 So I had plenty of failures. It's always important to 1:31:59.640 --> 1:32:03.200 bring it up because people should know that you never 1:32:03.240 --> 1:32:06.200 will be able to go through life without failures. Failures 1:32:06.280 --> 1:32:11.320 make us learn, Failures make you stronger. Pain makes you stronger. 1:32:11.600 --> 1:32:13.639 So I think all of that is good. 1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:16.479 Yeah, let's address both of those because it's so true. 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:18.639 Like on the outside, like you said, people can say, 1:32:19.080 --> 1:32:21.320 so privileged, you met the presidents, you did this, you 1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:23.760 did that, You've you know all the winds, you know 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:26.760 when I'm looking around this room like everything's iconically you know, 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:31.840 nothing's unrecognizable across the whole world. It's all recognizable. But 1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:35.360 did you ever feel the pressure when things started to 1:32:35.360 --> 1:32:37.600 go well of like, God, the next movie's got to 1:32:37.600 --> 1:32:39.360 be bigger, and the next movie's got to be bigger. 1:32:39.360 --> 1:32:41.599 Did you feel that or did you just kind of 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:43.200 you were just loving it so much that you just 1:32:43.320 --> 1:32:45.200 kept building and if it went wrong that it didn't 1:32:45.240 --> 1:32:46.240 hurt you that much. 1:32:46.840 --> 1:32:53.439 You know, I never really felt that much pressure probably 1:32:53.720 --> 1:32:57.040 about anything, to be honest with you, because I knew 1:32:57.080 --> 1:33:01.720 what I wanted and I never really fell for this 1:33:01.760 --> 1:33:04.000 thing of what did the people expect me to do? 1:33:04.680 --> 1:33:08.920 So I just I create my vision and when everyone 1:33:08.920 --> 1:33:12.439 says it's impossible, I go after the vengeance, it's like 1:33:12.479 --> 1:33:16.559 I go all out one and it gives me joy 1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:19.880 and it is What is great about it is that 1:33:20.040 --> 1:33:25.360 every time that you accomplish something really big, you see 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:29.400 and become aware of other things that are new challenges 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:32.000 that you didn't even think about. Yes, I mean, did 1:33:32.000 --> 1:33:35.160 I ever think about that I will fight for the environment. No, 1:33:36.120 --> 1:33:39.400 But because of the governorship. You know, this is like 1:33:39.720 --> 1:33:42.920 the thing I talk about in the book about Hillary 1:33:43.240 --> 1:33:45.760 the Times Mount Everest and he's up there, and then 1:33:45.720 --> 1:33:48.439 all of a sudden, this is another pig to be climbed, right, 1:33:48.640 --> 1:33:51.000 And there's the next one. So there's the same thing. 1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:53.719 I go and win the governorship. I go in there, 1:33:53.920 --> 1:33:57.759 I start working on the governorship and all the different policies, 1:33:58.240 --> 1:34:02.479 and I'm meeting all these scientists and experts and they 1:34:02.479 --> 1:34:04.719 talk about it. You know, how many people diarrhea because 1:34:04.720 --> 1:34:07.720 of pollution and we can do something about it, and 1:34:07.720 --> 1:34:11.040 that dive into that it's a new peak. Oh my god, 1:34:11.479 --> 1:34:14.439 no one has really explored that. Forget the nineteen percent 1:34:14.479 --> 1:34:18.080 of renewables, we have to have fifty percent renewables. Forget 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:21.559 about in the reducing Quino's gases about five percent. We 1:34:21.600 --> 1:34:24.519 have to reduce about twenty five percent, and we have 1:34:24.600 --> 1:34:26.679 to do it by twenty twenty. And so you said 1:34:26.720 --> 1:34:29.160 big goals. So this is the new peak that you're 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:31.360 climbing and you go all out for that. Then when 1:34:31.360 --> 1:34:33.599 you get there, then you see another pick beyond that. 1:34:33.680 --> 1:34:39.240 So this is what is fun and this makes my 1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:43.000 life rich. You know that it's always something new and different. 1:34:43.280 --> 1:34:48.600 And I tell you that I also learned when I 1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:52.600 for instance, listen to you because you come from a 1:34:52.600 --> 1:34:55.280 totally different world, right, so you have a different spin 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:59.360 on things, so that when a listener this, oh, that's 1:34:59.520 --> 1:35:02.519 interesting way of looking at it. And so I think 1:35:02.600 --> 1:35:05.559 we have to learn from one another. And so I 1:35:05.600 --> 1:35:06.840 think that you and I we have a lot in 1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:10.120 common anyway, because otherwise you wouldn't be sitting here right 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:13.080 a minute to think about it. It's not just that 1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:17.880 I want to be having one of the most popular podcasts, 1:35:18.920 --> 1:35:21.600 but you have to be a curious son of a 1:35:21.640 --> 1:35:25.000 bitch to go and to be really good in what 1:35:25.080 --> 1:35:28.120 you do. And this is what I noticed about your podcast. 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:33.720 You're really curious and natural curiosity, and I think that 1:35:33.880 --> 1:35:37.480 is you have to have it. You have to have curiosity. 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:39.800 It shows in your eyes, it shows in everything when 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:41.840 you ask the question and or you know, it's like 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:45.960 when you see journalists, which I hate. You know, they 1:35:45.960 --> 1:35:48.879 have like a piece of paper and say, okay, very interesting, 1:35:48.880 --> 1:35:53.600 he says, Now let me ask you another question. You 1:35:53.640 --> 1:35:55.960 want them said, this isn't it? And then how do 1:35:55.960 --> 1:35:58.320 you feel that they they read it off the paper 1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:02.000 and then when you answer, they don't even look at 1:36:02.000 --> 1:36:04.280 you in the eyes. They look at the paper for 1:36:04.320 --> 1:36:09.280 the next question, right, So I didn't detect any of 1:36:09.320 --> 1:36:12.040 that from you. I mean, every question can without looking 1:36:12.080 --> 1:36:15.160 at anything, because you're curious, and so I think I 1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:15.840 just wanted to. 1:36:15.760 --> 1:36:18.479 Mention, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that, and it 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:20.719 means a lot coming from you. And I am curious 1:36:20.720 --> 1:36:22.720 because I grew up as a fan who didn't so 1:36:22.760 --> 1:36:25.960 that's one thing. But I think I'm even more curious 1:36:25.960 --> 1:36:29.160 because you chose to write a book about being useful 1:36:29.360 --> 1:36:32.760 and life lessons, and I think that that world is 1:36:32.800 --> 1:36:36.160 what I gravitate towards because I think learning from the 1:36:36.200 --> 1:36:39.240 greats is all we have. And I think when we 1:36:39.280 --> 1:36:41.479 ignore to learn from the greats, that's when we make 1:36:41.720 --> 1:36:43.439 We have to make our own mistakes for no reason. 1:36:43.479 --> 1:36:45.760 We can avoid so many. So no, I am very 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:48.840 curious about you. And I think you're also a fantastic storyteller, 1:36:48.920 --> 1:36:51.840 so that helps you get into someone's detail and so 1:36:51.920 --> 1:36:54.400 many examples and everything, so it's it's brilliant. 1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:58.040 I tell you, it was really fun doing this book 1:36:58.120 --> 1:37:00.880 because I really had to kind of drilled down and 1:37:00.920 --> 1:37:03.439 think about a lot of the things that comes natural 1:37:03.479 --> 1:37:06.599 for me, you know, to tell stories about because you 1:37:06.680 --> 1:37:10.160 each one of the rules, you want to be able 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:12.759 to even the sub rules and the sub sub rules. 1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:14.560 You want to be able to tie it to a 1:37:14.680 --> 1:37:16.920 story so that people can relate to. Like I was 1:37:16.920 --> 1:37:20.040 talking about infrastructure. You can talk to people about infrastructure 1:37:20.040 --> 1:37:21.960 already want they can relate to it. But as soon 1:37:22.000 --> 1:37:25.519 as you tied to getting stuck in traffic making it 1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:28.559 to the recital in the school and you've come late 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:31.400 an hour because of the traffic in order, then they 1:37:31.439 --> 1:37:33.639 can relate to that. In the same is with any 1:37:33.640 --> 1:37:36.240 of the rules. You know. I kind of had fun 1:37:36.840 --> 1:37:39.599 doing it. It was sometimes frustrating because you want to 1:37:39.600 --> 1:37:42.240 do you know, ten rules, and the publish it and says, no, 1:37:42.320 --> 1:37:44.360 you can only do seven because this book can I 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:48.080 should only have two hundred and sixty eight pages other 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:50.400 than three hundred and fifty pages and all of this 1:37:50.479 --> 1:37:53.120 crazy stuff you go through. But it was a really, 1:37:53.160 --> 1:37:57.000 really great process and never met wildest dreams. Did I 1:37:57.080 --> 1:38:00.320 ever think that I would occupy this space at all, 1:38:00.840 --> 1:38:04.519 And it really happened, just totally coincidentally. We're more and 1:38:04.560 --> 1:38:06.519 more people, you know, when you when you finished with 1:38:06.560 --> 1:38:10.120 the governorship, I was asked to do public speaking engagements 1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:13.400 like ex presidents and stuff like that. And as I'm 1:38:13.400 --> 1:38:16.760 traveling around, I think one time someone said, can you 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:19.800 pump up our crowd? We have like a thousands, you know, 1:38:19.800 --> 1:38:23.479 real estate people. We want you to just pump them up, 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:26.600 so you do a little bit of success story. Yeah, 1:38:26.840 --> 1:38:28.760 And all of a sudden they took golf like wildfire. 1:38:29.120 --> 1:38:31.880 Every one of the public speaking engagements they've had since 1:38:31.920 --> 1:38:34.040 then they want to go and have me talk about 1:38:34.120 --> 1:38:36.960 success and the rules to success and all of that stuff. 1:38:37.040 --> 1:38:39.839 So it's like something I didn't even think about because 1:38:39.960 --> 1:38:42.000 I always was a motivator, you know, if it's a 1:38:42.080 --> 1:38:45.040 special Olympics of after school programs or do we just 1:38:45.240 --> 1:38:48.120 my buddies around in the gym. That became my training 1:38:48.160 --> 1:38:50.880 partners because I always have this kind of energy, right, 1:38:50.960 --> 1:38:53.200 come on, let's just said you can do another set. Well, 1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:56.280 you're stopping with ten reps, give me five more reps. 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:59.040 Let it pain, Let it give pain, you know, and 1:38:59.520 --> 1:39:02.280 you just pump pump up. So I have this energy. 1:39:02.360 --> 1:39:05.240 So never thought that this would be used then for 1:39:05.840 --> 1:39:09.040 seminars and eventually for a book like this. It's it's 1:39:09.080 --> 1:39:13.160 like crazy, No fantastic takes you. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's 1:39:13.200 --> 1:39:16.040 beautiful to see it through your eyes and through your 1:39:16.120 --> 1:39:18.439 lens and for us all to dream as well. And 1:39:18.479 --> 1:39:21.200 I have one final question for you, and actually before 1:39:21.200 --> 1:39:22.720 I ask it, when you said we have a lot 1:39:22.720 --> 1:39:26.639 in common, that there's so many different parallels that I'll 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:28.880 tell you later, because when I was listening to you, 1:39:28.960 --> 1:39:31.679 I have a very different life, but so many similar 1:39:31.760 --> 1:39:33.679 lessons I've picked up along the way, and I think 1:39:34.120 --> 1:39:36.559 as humans, that's what brings us together. We may not 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:38.680 have the same life story, we don't grow up in 1:39:38.720 --> 1:39:41.080 the same places, we don't have the same parents, but 1:39:41.479 --> 1:39:44.559 you pick up the same messages from the world and 1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:47.400 the same lessons from the world. So the fifth and 1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:49.360 final question I want to ask you is if you 1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:52.320 could create one law that everyone in the world had 1:39:52.360 --> 1:39:56.960 to follow, what would it be. Well, that's an interesting question. 1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:04.280 Maybe to get fossil fuels that you have to use 1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:10.679 alternative energy, if it is nuclear with producing energy itself, 1:40:11.200 --> 1:40:14.439 if it is for cast electric or hydrogen. I just 1:40:14.520 --> 1:40:21.080 feel like, if we have seven million people die because 1:40:21.080 --> 1:40:25.200 of pollution, I think by having a law like that 1:40:25.320 --> 1:40:29.760 and eventually make it stick, I think that we could 1:40:29.840 --> 1:40:34.400 save those lives, and this is like more than any 1:40:34.439 --> 1:40:36.720 of the wars that they're fought and any of the 1:40:36.800 --> 1:40:41.479 other disasters or anything like this. It's like so many 1:40:41.520 --> 1:40:45.120 people die because of pollution. So I mean that's huge. 1:40:45.200 --> 1:40:48.240 One thing is I mean, you know then the Bowery. 1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:50.720 Tomorrow morning, I'll call you and say I have another law. 1:40:50.880 --> 1:40:54.120 Great, that's a great answer. We've never had that one though. 1:40:54.240 --> 1:40:56.280 We've never had that answer. So it's a brilliant answer. 1:40:56.280 --> 1:40:58.519 But you've been doing so much work in I feel 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:01.080 like you've been doing so much work the plant based space, 1:41:01.240 --> 1:41:05.080 you know, with the documentaries on game changes like climate change. 1:41:05.120 --> 1:41:06.880 Now you're talking about like it seems like this has 1:41:06.880 --> 1:41:08.439 been like an immersion for you. 1:41:08.640 --> 1:41:10.960 Well you know that. We know it's crazy. Here's another 1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:15.520 crazy one. Yeah, it's all My life is so insane. 1:41:15.680 --> 1:41:18.960 I believe it. But I mean it's like I'm working 1:41:18.960 --> 1:41:25.120 with the sky cham Cameron. I determinated one. We become friends, 1:41:25.680 --> 1:41:30.120 we're right the motorcycle together, we hang out together, and 1:41:30.160 --> 1:41:32.280 then it does you know, Terminator two, and it does 1:41:32.320 --> 1:41:36.920 other movies in the Titanic and other titles. Yeah, but 1:41:38.520 --> 1:41:45.559 he is an environmentalist. But when we determinated, I never 1:41:46.080 --> 1:41:49.479 knew that, and he never talked about it. So then 1:41:49.520 --> 1:41:53.360 I become governor, and now he goes in the system. 1:41:53.400 --> 1:41:56.040 He says, I only make it to make your way 1:41:56.080 --> 1:41:59.920 of that. The power companies are still resisting that we've 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:02.840 verse metering, he said, reverse metering? What the hell are 1:42:02.880 --> 1:42:05.400 you talking about? He says, way, it's the thing you know, 1:42:05.479 --> 1:42:10.360 when you produce energy from solar and you produce too much, 1:42:10.479 --> 1:42:13.000 you want to put it back on a grid. That's 1:42:13.080 --> 1:42:16.920 reverse metering, and you get credit for it. So I 1:42:17.000 --> 1:42:21.880 walk away, and how does Jim Cameron knows about reverse 1:42:21.960 --> 1:42:24.800 metering and about that something you know? Of course, it's 1:42:24.880 --> 1:42:27.960 very clear because he's a genius, right and he just 1:42:28.080 --> 1:42:32.200 is with technowledge and stuff like that is unbeatable. But 1:42:32.280 --> 1:42:35.679 sure enough, I go into the office the next day 1:42:35.920 --> 1:42:37.800 in the governor's officer said, look, guys, I want to 1:42:37.800 --> 1:42:40.040 talk a little bit about reverse metering. Oh, I'm so 1:42:40.080 --> 1:42:43.120 glad to bring this up, because power companies are fighting 1:42:43.160 --> 1:42:45.840 us tooth and nail. They don't want to do reverse meeting. 1:42:45.960 --> 1:42:48.519 But we want to pass a law to be telling 1:42:48.560 --> 1:42:50.800 the legislators to send us a bill so that you 1:42:50.840 --> 1:42:53.200 can sign it in blah blah blah. So this just 1:42:53.280 --> 1:42:58.160 gives you an example of what impact Jim Cameron had 1:42:58.240 --> 1:43:04.439 on me with issues that way beyond you know, movies 1:43:04.479 --> 1:43:07.120 and stuff like that. Then he goes and says to me, 1:43:07.200 --> 1:43:09.400 I said to him, I said, my doctor said to me. 1:43:09.800 --> 1:43:13.240 He says, I should get off meat and they should 1:43:13.560 --> 1:43:18.799 only have once a week meat. And he says, well, hello, 1:43:19.600 --> 1:43:22.200 where have you been. I mean, I've been vegan for 1:43:22.240 --> 1:43:26.640 five years. So I said what, And this is I've 1:43:26.640 --> 1:43:29.160 been being for five I mean any meat for five years. 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:32.080 You don't need me to have it. And he goes crazy. 1:43:32.120 --> 1:43:34.400 Now right, and he says some effect, we're doing a 1:43:34.479 --> 1:43:38.000 documentary right now and the other thing, you know, on 1:43:38.560 --> 1:43:42.080 eating plant based food. So all of a sudden, here's 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:44.639 the experts. Now I sit down with him and he's 1:43:44.640 --> 1:43:48.320 telling me for hours about you know, plant based food 1:43:48.400 --> 1:43:52.040 and how he can combine and create the right assets 1:43:52.280 --> 1:43:54.560 to create the right protein and all reasons how he 1:43:54.600 --> 1:43:58.080 can get strong. And here's and now he lists the 1:43:58.240 --> 1:44:05.280 name of the athletes, boxes, wrestlers, weightlifters, UFC fighters, everything 1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:10.280 that are on plant based food. Think about that. So 1:44:10.600 --> 1:44:12.600 now I got into it, and I was part of 1:44:12.600 --> 1:44:17.800 this documentary. Right, and now I eat like maybe once 1:44:17.880 --> 1:44:22.000 a week meat, So I would say seventy percent at least. 1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:26.160 The cutdown my meat intake for health reasons, and it 1:44:26.240 --> 1:44:30.320 happens to be also for environmental reasons, as he explained 1:44:30.320 --> 1:44:32.479 as the honold, what do you think where most of 1:44:32.520 --> 1:44:36.280 the pollution comes from more than from transportation, comes from 1:44:36.920 --> 1:44:41.160 breeding live stock? Says, see, are you kidding me? He says, no, 1:44:41.680 --> 1:44:43.719 read up on it. He says, I send you some stuff, 1:44:43.880 --> 1:44:46.080 so I'm reading up on it. Sure enough, twenty eight 1:44:46.120 --> 1:44:49.559 percent of the pollution comes from breeding livestock. So he says, 1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:52.800 if people wouldn't need meat, this is and wouldn't have 1:44:52.880 --> 1:44:56.040 the animals being kind of like the WHRSE cell, kind 1:44:56.040 --> 1:45:00.320 of like the vegetable protein goes into the animal, then 1:45:00.360 --> 1:45:02.639 they eat it in the chase. Then you eat the animal. 1:45:02.880 --> 1:45:05.880 You still get the the you know, the plant based food, 1:45:05.880 --> 1:45:09.240 but through the animal. Now it's it's bullshit. We can 1:45:09.280 --> 1:45:12.280 do better than that. Let's cut out the meat. It's 1:45:12.360 --> 1:45:17.200 just amazing how I get exposed to various different things 1:45:17.240 --> 1:45:22.400 in my life and make me passionate about ways that 1:45:22.479 --> 1:45:25.960 I couldn't even ever have planned. You know, those kind 1:45:25.960 --> 1:45:29.400 of relationships and this kind of knowledge you could never 1:45:29.479 --> 1:45:29.880 plan on. 1:45:30.040 --> 1:45:32.400 Yeah, and do you also have a meditation practice? 1:45:32.479 --> 1:45:36.320 Is that right? I used to in the seventies. There 1:45:36.360 --> 1:45:39.960 was a time when I got out of bodybuilding and 1:45:40.000 --> 1:45:42.920 into show business and it was all kinds of things 1:45:42.920 --> 1:45:45.160 happening in the mid seventies. So I was doing the 1:45:45.240 --> 1:45:49.919 last year of competition in nineteen seventy five in South Africa, 1:45:50.400 --> 1:45:53.760 missed Olympia, so I was training for that. I was 1:45:53.800 --> 1:45:57.360 finishing off my movie Stay Hungry with Barb Breaferston and 1:45:57.680 --> 1:46:00.720 Salid Fields and Cheff Bridges. You know they're doing that. 1:46:01.360 --> 1:46:04.880 And I was at the same time going full plast 1:46:05.000 --> 1:46:08.559 in the show business, taking acting classes and investing my 1:46:08.640 --> 1:46:11.840 money in real estate. So I was no matter which 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:15.120 way I was turning, I was like scrambling, and at 1:46:15.120 --> 1:46:20.080 that point I did not know much about how to 1:46:20.280 --> 1:46:23.920 isolate and just concentrate on one thing at the time. 1:46:24.479 --> 1:46:28.640 So I'm hanging out with this guy, this skinny rat 1:46:29.040 --> 1:46:36.280 down on the beach. Here's a transcendental meditation teacher. But 1:46:36.360 --> 1:46:40.040 they never talked about it. So I said, I feel frantic. 1:46:40.479 --> 1:46:43.120 I mean, it's like everything is a little bit overwhelming 1:46:43.160 --> 1:46:45.720 for me. I'm doing this movie. I'm shooting the documentary, 1:46:45.760 --> 1:46:49.479 pumping on, I'm going to the competition, I'm finishing off 1:46:49.520 --> 1:46:52.200 Stay Hungry. I'm trying to the real estate and become 1:46:52.200 --> 1:46:56.120 a millionaire. I'm all over the recess. And let me 1:46:56.160 --> 1:46:59.160 talk to you a little bit, very calmly talks to 1:46:59.200 --> 1:47:01.600 me about it, and he says, when they come up 1:47:01.640 --> 1:47:06.360 to Westward and take some transcendental meditation, he says, I 1:47:06.400 --> 1:47:08.360 cannot be a teacher, even though I'm a teacher. I said, 1:47:08.400 --> 1:47:11.880 your teacher trans Then yeah, he said, but I cannot 1:47:11.880 --> 1:47:14.559 be your teacher's our rules in your friendship and stuff 1:47:15.040 --> 1:47:17.160 if there's someone else's. But don't worry, I said, yeah, 1:47:17.200 --> 1:47:19.760 with the right guy. So I go up there and 1:47:19.800 --> 1:47:24.599 I did the I learned now about meditation, And as 1:47:24.600 --> 1:47:27.840 I got into it, I was then doing meditation like 1:47:27.960 --> 1:47:32.599 for months throughout the summer, that hectic summer. I mean 1:47:32.640 --> 1:47:37.760 the summer was over, it wasn't a hectic anymore. So 1:47:38.000 --> 1:47:41.760 what I learned from meditation was, you know, how to 1:47:41.880 --> 1:47:44.680 kind of like first of all, rejuvenate the mind and 1:47:44.880 --> 1:47:47.640 to kind of disconnect the mind. But also what I 1:47:47.720 --> 1:47:50.759 learned was how to focus on one thing at the time, 1:47:51.439 --> 1:47:55.360 and to just look at that with no peripheral vision 1:47:56.439 --> 1:48:03.400 so that nothing comes in. Solve this and then don't 1:48:03.439 --> 1:48:06.439 think about anything else, and then go over here and 1:48:06.560 --> 1:48:10.400 solve this and then south. Just because he said, you 1:48:10.439 --> 1:48:14.639 can never do of it in one time anyway, and 1:48:14.720 --> 1:48:18.040 as soon as you single out things, it becomes much 1:48:18.080 --> 1:48:23.600 more approachable and much more doable. He said to me, 1:48:23.680 --> 1:48:27.599 I remember, he said, when you drive down and nice 1:48:27.720 --> 1:48:32.400 what walk with your bike, he says, you will look 1:48:32.479 --> 1:48:36.280 sometimes on this busy day and it will be all packed. 1:48:38.160 --> 1:48:40.599 He says, it would look like you would not be 1:48:40.680 --> 1:48:44.280 able to go through this crowd because you're looking at 1:48:44.280 --> 1:48:48.439 the whole shot, the whole what walk all the way 1:48:48.479 --> 1:48:53.080 down a mile venice, So it's overwhelming, he says. But 1:48:53.920 --> 1:48:57.720 if you go not with your bike slowly, you negotiate 1:48:57.840 --> 1:49:00.360 around the people and all of a sudden you find 1:49:00.400 --> 1:49:03.519 spaces where you can go. We don't bump into anybody, 1:49:03.520 --> 1:49:05.360 and always says, you always said you're on the end 1:49:05.400 --> 1:49:08.320 of it, And it was totally doable because he took 1:49:08.360 --> 1:49:11.240 like one person at the time, kind of like by 1:49:11.320 --> 1:49:14.240 sicing around, he says, And that's the way with everything. 1:49:14.240 --> 1:49:16.680 He says, if you just look at it one thing 1:49:16.720 --> 1:49:21.120 at the time, you'll be able to solve any problem. 1:49:21.320 --> 1:49:24.000 And that's why it says, you see people like the 1:49:24.080 --> 1:49:30.839 Pope that has obviously his daily routine, the big daily routine. 1:49:31.080 --> 1:49:33.640 But those guys, they get up at five o'clock in 1:49:33.720 --> 1:49:36.559 the morning, they work out for an hour and a half, 1:49:37.520 --> 1:49:40.720 very calmly, get that out of the way. Then they 1:49:40.760 --> 1:49:44.880 read newspapers like Pope Jump Paul. I remember he told 1:49:44.920 --> 1:49:49.000 me that he read newspapers in six different languages. So 1:49:49.040 --> 1:49:52.479 they read the newspapers, then they get that done. Then 1:49:52.479 --> 1:49:54.519 they go and take a shower, and then they go 1:49:54.560 --> 1:49:56.680 and have the first meeting. So this is how they 1:49:56.760 --> 1:50:00.960 step best step they approach the day, and says the 1:50:01.040 --> 1:50:04.160 people that get done the most, you can load them 1:50:04.200 --> 1:50:08.400 up with even more responsibilities because they're very organized and 1:50:08.560 --> 1:50:11.760 very systematic in their approach. And so I've learned that. 1:50:11.840 --> 1:50:15.160 So now I've never really been that friendic again, but 1:50:15.280 --> 1:50:18.439 if it would become friendic, I would go right back 1:50:18.479 --> 1:50:21.360 into the meditation because I know now how to do it. 1:50:21.760 --> 1:50:24.519 That's fantastic, Honold everyone who has been listening or watching 1:50:24.560 --> 1:50:28.160 the book is called be useful. Seven tools for life. 1:50:28.920 --> 1:50:30.360 You can grab it right now. We're going to put 1:50:30.360 --> 1:50:32.120 the link in the comments and the captions that you 1:50:32.120 --> 1:50:34.360 can order it right away. As you can tell, Arnold's 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:38.160 a phenomenal storyteller. Inside of it a lessons stories. And 1:50:38.600 --> 1:50:40.280 one of the things I definitely have in common with 1:50:40.320 --> 1:50:42.920 Donold that I appreciate about him is how simple the 1:50:43.000 --> 1:50:46.680 idea is, how easy they are to digest. They're not complicated, 1:50:46.760 --> 1:50:48.720 and you know, you don't have to learn something new. 1:50:48.760 --> 1:50:50.799 You can actually just sit there, take them in, listen, 1:50:51.080 --> 1:50:53.000 and all of a sudden you start going, wait a minute, 1:50:53.080 --> 1:50:55.559 maybe it is that easy. Maybe it is that simple, 1:50:55.800 --> 1:50:58.360 and I think that's something that we desperately need in 1:50:58.400 --> 1:51:01.040 today's world. So Arnold, I thank you for putting all 1:51:01.040 --> 1:51:02.760 your lessons into a book for us, and thank you 1:51:02.760 --> 1:51:04.320 for telling so many amazing stories. 1:51:04.360 --> 1:51:10.679 And I signed seventeen thousand copies. Wow pages paye because 1:51:10.720 --> 1:51:13.519 now they sent you the pages, you know, so I'm 1:51:13.520 --> 1:51:17.240 getting the boxes with pages. Each box was a thousand pages, 1:51:17.400 --> 1:51:19.439 and I said them, alf, wait a minute, now you 1:51:19.439 --> 1:51:22.360 know it first was like fourteen thousands for the American Company, 1:51:22.640 --> 1:51:25.160 and then there was another three and a half thousand 1:51:25.200 --> 1:51:28.519 of four thousands for them they're going to be in bookstores. Yes. 1:51:28.920 --> 1:51:32.519 What what they do is I think that the first 1:51:32.960 --> 1:51:36.040 of the books all signed. Yes, so now people will 1:51:36.120 --> 1:51:39.599 be in the order pre order, they will wear signed books. 1:51:39.640 --> 1:51:41.960 I think that was the idea so in the old days, 1:51:42.200 --> 1:51:43.920 that you would go to the bookstore and you will 1:51:44.040 --> 1:51:46.479 sign all the books yourself, and then you sit there 1:51:46.479 --> 1:51:49.240 for hours and hours and after an hour signed one 1:51:49.320 --> 1:51:51.320 hundred books, right because you have to open up the 1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:54.120 book and it's always slow. Now is these pages? So 1:51:54.160 --> 1:51:57.280 I was just like signing, signing, signing. I was for 1:51:57.400 --> 1:52:02.120 three months. I was signing and signing and signing. H 1:52:02.800 --> 1:52:06.200 I mean think about it, I mean seventeen thousands. 1:52:06.280 --> 1:52:07.840 Yeah, I can relate. 1:52:07.880 --> 1:52:08.479 It's crazy. 1:52:08.520 --> 1:52:09.200 Yeah, it's crazy. 1:52:09.200 --> 1:52:12.400 I never thought that many cigreass. 1:52:13.000 --> 1:52:14.400 I love it. Well, it's available. 1:52:14.439 --> 1:52:14.599 Now. 1:52:14.640 --> 1:52:16.920 Make sure you tag me and Arnold on any social 1:52:16.920 --> 1:52:20.439 media platforms you're using, whether it's TikTok, Instagram, x or 1:52:20.439 --> 1:52:23.080 wherever you are. I'd love to see what resonated with you, 1:52:23.160 --> 1:52:25.840 what's stuck with you? Keep sharing those posts across social 1:52:25.920 --> 1:52:28.599 media because I love seeing what is going to stay 1:52:28.640 --> 1:52:30.120 with you, what you're going to practice, what are you 1:52:30.120 --> 1:52:32.200 going to try? What are you going to implement in 1:52:32.240 --> 1:52:36.480 your life from this episode that will help you become happier, healthier, 1:52:36.560 --> 1:52:39.320 or more healed. Thank you again, Arnold, thank you, thank you. 1:52:39.520 --> 1:52:42.240 If you love this episode, you love my interview with 1:52:42.360 --> 1:52:45.920 Will Smith on owning your truth and unlocking the power 1:52:45.920 --> 1:52:46.840 of manifestation. 1:52:47.240 --> 1:52:50.880 Anybody who hasn't spoken to their parents or their brother, 1:52:51.360 --> 1:52:55.320 haul them right now. Don't think you're going to have 1:52:55.320 --> 1:52:57.800 a chance to call them tomorrow or next week. 1:52:57.920 --> 1:53:03.559 That opportunity with my father change every relationship in my life.