1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Failures make us learn, Failures make you stronger. Pain makes 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: you stronger. Everyone in the world knows Arnold Fortnegger. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger has been an A lister and the other. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: One of the most famous ill beings on earth. For 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: most from his wife. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: We've entered your mind. That's what it feels like. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: If you don't know where you want to go, who 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: you want to be, You eventually just float around. Then 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: do eventually crashed. I promise the people that they're number one, 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: but I promised my wife that they're going to be 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: number one, So this is dilemma. 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Before we jump into this episode, I'd like to invite 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: you to join this community to hear more interviews that 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: will help you become happier, healthier, and more healed. All 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: I want you to do is click on the subscribe button. 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: I love your support. It's incredible to see all your 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: comments and we're just getting started. I can't wait to 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: go on this journey with you. Thank you so much 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: for subscribing. It means the world to me. 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: The best selling author and the most the number one 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Healthy Well Inness. 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: Podcast Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey, everyone, welcome back to 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: On Purpose, the Number one health podcast in the world. 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: Thanks to each and every one of you that come 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: back every week to listen, learn and grow. Now, today's guest, 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: I mean, embodies health in so many ways, and I 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: can't wait to dive into his mindset, his attitude, his routine, 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: his history, and the journeys took to be here. It's 29 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: someone who needs no introduction. Please welcome to on Purpose, 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger. It is great to be here with you. 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 2: I am so thankful that you've invited us into your space. 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: It's fascinating to look around and be here with you, 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: and thank you so much. 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Arnold. Absolutely, it's nice to have you here. I've been 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: here in this office for the last thirty three years. 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Some of the fact that built the building in nineteen 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: eighty four and then this property was there was a 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: railroad going through here, and then first we leased it 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: the property, and then the railroad company was willing to 40 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: sell it, so we them bought it and build this building. 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: And first it was kind of a commercial office building 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: with insurance companies and banks and stuff like this in here. 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: And then I decided that I want to move in here. 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: In ninety ninety five years later and make it the 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: entertainment building. Then Oliver Stone moved next door to me 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: and the left when he come out of the elevator, 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: because he's one left wing than I am, so he 48 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: had to go to the left. I was my right wing, 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: so I was going to the right, which is this office. 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: And then Rainy Hallam came in here, and Geena Davis 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: and Johnny Castle came in here, so everybody it was 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: like totally like the hip entertainment kind of a building. 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: And so we have enjoyed this building ever since, and 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: it's just a great space. And I have kind of 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: like moved a lot of men movie memorabilias here. You 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: see an alligator here that is for me Eraser. You 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: see bat from Batman and Robin me as mister Freeze, 58 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: and this terminator from Terminator one and Terminator two, and 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: you see the Predator and this, you know, all kinds 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: of and then kind of interesting political leaders from both sides, 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: from the left and the right, you know, just because 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't really care that much about those things. So 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: it's a John F. Kennedy at the Ronald Reagan, have 64 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: President Lincoln with Teddy Roosevelt that we're here, so you 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: have different leaders, and then we also have those that 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: have been losers, which is Stalin got This is a 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: gift from a Russian weightlifter from the Russian Weightlifting Federation, 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and so I've collected them. Also. 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we've entered your mind. That's what 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: it feels like when you enter this room, like all 71 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: these aspects of yourself. I was I was wondering, what's 72 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: your earliest childhood memory that you think defines the person 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: you are today. I heard somewhere you mentioned your father 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: made you earn your breakfast, and I was thinking, what 75 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: does that feel like? 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, I really don't know exactly why it was 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: that gave me the drive or gave me the ability 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: to visualize my goals in order, but I think it 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: was a combination of things of growing up after the 80 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Second World War in nineteen forty seven I was born, 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: and to grow up with no food, midst starvation and 82 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: faman and you know, my mother going around what they 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: called hamsterring, which means begging at various different farmers for food, 84 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: so she had food for the children. So all of 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: that I think had an impact and a strict upbringing. 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: My father was very strict. You know. We were hit 87 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: many times and punished for not doing the things the 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: way they thought we should do things. We had to 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: earn breakfast, like you said, you know, we had to 90 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: do push ups and sit ups and compete knee bends 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: and all this stuff running around the house in order 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: to be allowed to have breakfast. I think all of 93 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: that contributed. You know. Also, I think having the military around, 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: the British military that was because they occupied that area 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: of Austria. They came always around with their tanks and 96 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: with the big trucks and everything, and I think that 97 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: gave me the fascination of, you know, becoming a tank 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: driver myself, and I've met into the Austrian Army. Ever 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: since then, I have had a fascination with big cars, 100 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: big trucks, with tanks and stuff like that. And I 101 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: now have the tank that I drove in the military. 102 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: I now have over here in Los Angeles and it's 103 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: at the Melody Ranch where they have a lot of 104 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: various different military vehicles and they do the upkeep and 105 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 1: they drive it like once a month, especially with after 106 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: school kids that are staying in school in the afternoons 107 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: and sounds. So we have a lot of fun with that. 108 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: Do you still drive it? 109 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I drive it every month. Yeah, I really 110 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But that's why I have hummers, you know, 111 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: the big military trucks and cars and sues and that, 112 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: the ashcash and all of this. It's a certain craziness 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: that never leaves you. You know, I didn't know boys 114 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: their toys, right, yeaheah. 115 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. You said somewhere as well that you're you felt 116 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: like your father was maybe struggling with some post traumatic 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: stress disorder, like he had that energy that kind of 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: came through onto you guys. 119 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: Well, you know, my father was a very complicated guy. Obviously, 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: I never really got to know him that well. You know, 121 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: by the time I left, it was like I was 122 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, I mean a military Then it moved 123 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: to Munich. Then it moved from Munich to America, so 124 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: it really was not home. I wish the day I 125 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: could have a conversation with him, because I'm much smarter now, 126 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm much more interested in various different issues like that 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: would make someone tick, but make someone you know, happy 128 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: and suffer whatever. So in those days, we didn't talk 129 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: about any of that, you know, So it's it. But 130 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: he was complicated because he was a victim of the 131 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: Second World War, meaning that he was dragged into the war, 132 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: became a soldier, a Nazi officer, you know, was shattered 133 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: in Starting Grat or Leningrad should say, and he was 134 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, buried on the rubble of buildings that collapsed 135 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: on top of him for three days and then he 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: had back surgeries and then he was shipped back home 137 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: to Austria, and that actually probably would saved him because 138 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: he got out of Russia just on time before the 139 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: whole thing collapsed, and so it created a certain kind 140 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: of a thing. He had malaria, so he was suffering 141 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: from malaria, He was suffering from shrubnos moving around in 142 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: his body. He was depressed obviously that they lost the 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: war in the first place. So that must have had 144 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: an impact on alliest man. Because everyone around me when 145 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: I grew up was kind of drinking. And so people 146 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: only drink when they're really unhappy, you know, or you 147 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: drink a glass of wine like I sometimes do, but 148 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: not to get drunk, but say like they did. So 149 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot of drinking going on, a lot 150 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: of violence going on, hitting the kids, not just my dad, 151 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: hitting me or my brother. But the neighbor hit his kids, 152 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: and the other neighbor hitting I mean, as a matter 153 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: of fact, that a regular kind of a parent teachers. 154 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: They would be when the parents come into the classroom, 155 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: they will go up to the teacher, they talked for 156 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: a few minutes, and then they go go to their 157 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: kids in the classroom and snack them. But every parent 158 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: was It was just the wildest kind of a thing. 159 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: It would be great for comedy today, I think, you 160 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: know if because now I have to laugh about it 161 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: because people all kind of like laughing about it because 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: we knew. Like when my dad came in, you know, 163 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: he then had this look. You know, at first he 164 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: talked to and then all of a sudden it was 165 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: just this look towards me. Then you will just come 166 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: over and bomb, we snack you. Then we walk out. 167 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: And then some old lady would come in with the 168 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: walking cane, and she was the grandmother of one of 169 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: the kids that were sitting next to me, and she 170 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: would go to the teacher. Then she would walk over 171 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: the cane and she take a cane and snack the 172 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: kid over the head of the cane. And so this 173 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: was normal. So you know. So that's what I'm saying. 174 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: It's it was such a different way of upbringing than 175 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe you had, or that the kids have the day, 176 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: or that my kids had, you know, where there was 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: always love and affection for them. Yes there was discipline, 178 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: but it was all done in a measured way and 179 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: not with hitting and stuff like that. So it's it's 180 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: it's better I think of This had an impact, yeah, 181 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: on the way of view the world and my drive 182 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: to get out of there, out of Austria and to 183 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: come to America and to get in the body building 184 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: and all those kind of things. 185 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: What was the most intense part of your involvement in 186 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: the military. What was the most intense experience you had there. 187 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: Obviously there was this experience at home and at school, 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: as you just said, but I think. 189 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: That the military, even though when I went through it, 190 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: it was really tough. But I have to say that 191 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: when I look back at it, I recommend it very 192 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: strongly for any young man or woman as fast it 193 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: goes to go through that, because you learn how to 194 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: be tough. You get up at five in the morning, 195 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: you run for an hour, then into your basic training, 196 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, crawling on all fours and with the gun 197 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: in your hand, and shooting and learning how to drive 198 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: motorcyclists and cars and trucks and tanks. You learn about leadership, 199 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: but you also learn simple things like how the iron 200 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: your shirt, how to sew on button, how to iron 201 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: your pants, how to brush your shoes, how to clean 202 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: your shoes, clean belt bucklets and oils. So become kind 203 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: of self sufficient, and it gives you, I think, a 204 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: certain amount of confidence that I don't need to be 205 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: babed by anybody. I can take care. I can cook, 206 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: which you'll learn the basic foods. As a matter, we 207 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: made scrambled eggs on top of the tank because the 208 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: back of the motor will be so hot, so we 209 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: just put the eggs on top and just scrambled it 210 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: there and ate it of the tank dirty as it was. Right. 211 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, so you feel kind of look, I 212 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: can handle food, I can handle ironing mail own stuff, 213 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: I can handle washing my own stuff. I don't need 214 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: anybody to do this kind of you know, stupid choice. 215 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: I can do it myself, and I feel good doing 216 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: it myself. So there's a lot of things like that. 217 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: Did you learn in the army. It just gives you 218 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: a certain base where you don't get a afraid of anything. 219 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: You feel like I've gone through all kinds of hell. 220 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Now with the military, you know, they make sure of that, 221 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: and so I think that's that's really terrific. But I 222 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: remember there were times that were really tough, Like, for instance, 223 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: if you make a mistake, they will have you open 224 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: up the hatch that is underneath your seat and made 225 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: the driver's seat is of the tank, and you open 226 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: up that hatch and it falls out, and then they 227 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: have you crawl out of that hole and then drive 228 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: then crawl under the tank in a mud and with 229 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: your uniform on and everything, and then you have you 230 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: have to climb up the back of the tank up 231 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: to the turrent, down the turrent, back to your driver's seat, 232 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: and then out that hole again. And they do that 233 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: like fifty times. So by the time you do it 234 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: is like hours later, and you were you literally collapse, 235 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,479 Speaker 1: You're so exhausted for more this stuff. So there's punishments 236 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: like that that were really really tough. So I would 237 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: not wish that than anybody, to be honest with you. 238 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I could handle it, but I think I 239 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: could handle it because it was eighteen years old, and 240 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, you're very, very tough in your eighteen dais 241 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: about anything, you know, the endurance and the strength. And 242 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: I was in the middle of my weightlifting and body 243 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: build in Korea, so I was also strong, but it 244 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: was strong Willdors. So to me, it was all kind 245 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: of it was good, but it was tough. 246 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your first I know that you've talked 247 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: about how like you wanted to get out of Austria, 248 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: you wanted to get away, But what was your first 249 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: glimpse of America? Like, what was your first experience of 250 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: the United States that you had? 251 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: The first experience was I was competing in Florida in Miami, 252 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: So to me, Miami was the first experience, really arriving 253 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: in New York, changing planes and then flying to Miami. 254 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: I came from London to New York and then from 255 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: New York to Miami. That to me was the first experience. 256 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, the high rises, the beautiful hotels, the water, 257 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: the boats. Everyone had a boat there. Can you believe that? 258 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean everyone they have an apartment and at the canal, 259 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: at the waterway and then they have a boat and 260 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: they were just all cruising around and we were invited, 261 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: we bodybuilders that were competing in the competition. We were 262 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: invited on boat rides. There was this one bodybuildt that 263 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: had a boat for like ten people. So we were 264 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: going around and we saw how much fun they had, 265 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, how well people lived, how happy they were. 266 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: To me, there was like a really interesting experience, unlike 267 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: the experience when it came to California, because I felt like, Okay, 268 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm coming to California and I'm going to see all 269 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: the things that made me want to come here, Muscle Beach. 270 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: But the Muscle Beach by that time was closed, you know, 271 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: they closed it in the sixties and and so there 272 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: was no Muscle Beach per se. Then Gold's Gym was 273 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: not as big as I thought it's going to be. 274 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: The buildings when you look around out here be in 275 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Venice right now, it's there still the day, very no 276 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: buildings compared to the high rises in New York. So 277 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: I thought that there will be high rises here, also 278 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles high rises. And then when my friends took 279 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: me to Hollywood, they try to convince me this is Hollywood. 280 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look at this, And I looked around and 281 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: I just couldn't see anything right, So I thought there 282 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: would be studios left and right of Hollywood Boulevard. There 283 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: would be studios that will be Paramount Studios, and that 284 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: would be Sony, and then there will be you know, Columbia, 285 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Disney and Warner Brothers and all of the students will 286 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: be lined up left and right with hotels and luxury 287 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: and and I got down to Hollywood Boulevard. It was 288 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: like a bunch of homeless people running around and weirdos 289 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: and drug addicts and hippies and that's what I saw. 290 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: And there's and tourists, you know. So I said myself, 291 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: this is Hollywood. They said, well, you know, I have 292 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: to understand this is daytime. At night it really lights up. 293 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: And then they said, well, why don't you bring me 294 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: here at night when it really lights up. So and 295 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 1: they took me at night, and it was also very disappointing. 296 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: There was a few lights and a few billboards. But 297 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, I just I came from London, right, So 298 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: I've been at that point. I've been several times to 299 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: London because I was competing in bodybuilding in London and 300 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: I started my bodybuilding Korea there. So I saw Piccatilly Square, 301 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: and I saw lights, I mean I saw action. It 302 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: was like staggering that really blew me away, you know. 303 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: And then driving out this double decker buses and the 304 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: transportation with the subway or the two whatever they call 305 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: underground they they call it in England, and all of 306 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: this to me. The airport, the Heathrow Airport, that really 307 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: blew me away. But when it came to America, when 308 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: it came to Los Angeles, I had a vision like 309 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: it would be like that, but it wasn't. And so 310 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: I was very, very disappointed in the beginning, until I 311 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: got used to it, and until I understood that this 312 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: is earthquake country that you don't build high rises, you know, 313 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: because they would collapse. Later on, as time went on, 314 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: they figured out the technology to put them rollers or 315 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: major tires or something so that the moves so they 316 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: don't collapse. But I mean, I learned to understand all 317 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: of that later on. But the first thing was a 318 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: shock to me in a negative way. But then when 319 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I got used to Los Angeles, and when I got 320 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: used to the gym and used to the members and 321 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: the kindness of the American people and the sweetness of 322 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: the bodybuilders, you know, that would invite me on Thanksgiving 323 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: when it didn't even know what Thanksgiving was, and they 324 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: would invite me, a stranger like me to the home 325 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving dinner, or they will come and show up 326 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: at my apartment with silverware because I didn't have any 327 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: with dishes, with the blankets, pillowcases, bed sheets, and I 328 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: remember this one girl gave me like a radio, a 329 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: wooden radio for my aunt Taier next to the bed, 330 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: which I still have next to my bed today, so, 331 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, because I wanted to keep that because it 332 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: was like it was, it simpolizes whenever I look at 333 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: that radio, it symbolizes the generosity of the American people 334 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: and how it was kind of like included and they 335 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: moved over here and all of that. So there was 336 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of interesting lessons that I've learned right away 337 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: when they came over here, you know, the difference between 338 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: cultures and all that, between Austrians and Germans and British 339 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: and the Americans and all that. 340 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of what you just said 341 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: about first coming to Hollywood, I think it's very common 342 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: when people got to Hollywood Boulevard and have a very 343 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: glamorous view of what it might be, but it but 344 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: it isn't. And what you were reminding me of just 345 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: now is just this idea of how everyone has like 346 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: dreams and visions of what something might be, and then 347 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: when you experience it, you get a sense of how 348 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: you view it through your own eyes. And for me, though, 349 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: what I'm what I'm fascinated by is who is your 350 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: who is your first ever bodybuilding coach? And do you 351 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: remember your first ever tournament? How did it go? 352 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I've There was a fellow by the name 353 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: of Quid Mannul who was mister Austria. Now I have 354 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: to imagine when you're like fourteen years old, like I 355 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: was in fifteen, and mister Austria was like, it's a 356 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: big star. He came out to that lake where I 357 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: grew up. There was like a lake where there was 358 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: on weekends like three four thousand people around that lake 359 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: lying in the grass and on blankets and then swimming 360 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: in that lake. And it was kind of a muddy 361 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: kind of a lake. And he came out there and 362 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: he looked like God. He was very good friends with 363 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: the swimming coach, the guy that kind of took care 364 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: of everything there at the lake and they were working 365 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: out and they were inviting me to work out with them. 366 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: So to me, there was kind of the first experience 367 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: where someone kind of dragged me in and inspired me 368 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: and said, oh my god, can you imagine looking like that? 369 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: And he if he wanted it or not, happened to 370 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: be very good because he said to me, he says, well, 371 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: in five years, you could look like me. And I 372 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: was saying, I was visualizing right away, oh my god, 373 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: can you believe that if I could look like that? 374 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: And I missed the Austria and I said, there was 375 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: like major and I just felt like, this is almost 376 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of my new dad. He was thirty two years old, 377 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: and he became kind of like a mentor. He invited me. 378 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Then first of all he invited I realized that they 379 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: invited always these athletes out there, like shot buddhers and 380 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: javelin throwers and weightlifters and boxes, bodybuilders, I mean all 381 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: kinds of athletes. They all will work out together and 382 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: have a good time. And we kids were kind of 383 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: like hanging out with them very so often we will 384 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: work out with them, so we got so I got 385 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: my real early inspiration that way. And then I went 386 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: down to the club, to the weightlifting club. I started 387 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: working out, and Stiff really become religious about it. It 388 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: was like this was my new life. And I started 389 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: having visions, very clear visions of being a Mister Austria. 390 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: Then there were pictures of the Mister Europe contest, so 391 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: I visualized myself being in the Mister Europe contest and winning. 392 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: And then I saw pictures of Reg Park, which is 393 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: a British bodybuilder who then subsequently later on moved to 394 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: South Africa, married a South African woman by then the 395 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: name of Marianne and they created a family in South Africa. 396 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: So that what became kind of my idol. And I 397 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: saw pictures of him winning Mister Universe in London, and 398 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: so that was my new vision. So I started really 399 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: creating through this guy's vision. But that the division was 400 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: so vivid, so clear, that I felt like all I 401 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: had to do now is just follow through with the work. 402 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: Let me now find out what needs to be done. 403 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: And so I read about redg Park. How did he train? 404 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: He trained like four or five hours a day, and 405 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: he didn't soarn so many sets and so many reps. 406 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: And these are the exercises. He did that, the bench press, 407 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: the incline, prents, the bat, the girl that shoulders presses 408 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: and this and that, and I just wrote everything down 409 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: and I started following his routine, and that was absolutely 410 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: convinced that I will be another wretch Park. And so 411 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: that's how I really developed my first rule that I 412 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: always talk about the success is you got to have 413 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: a very clear vision of where you want to go, 414 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: because if you don't have that, you're just floating around. 415 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: And so, you know, I was very fortunate that they 416 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: created that vision. I was very fortunate that there was 417 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: not the site kind of things going on. We didn't 418 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: have a phone in our house. We didn't have a 419 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: television in our house at that time. There I on 420 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: the iPads, there was no computer. There was just really 421 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: you had all the time in the world to think 422 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: and to really just sit quietly and to just visualize. 423 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: And I always say that I feel sorry for kids 424 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: today that they're spending hours and hours on that iPhone, 425 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: an iPad or computer and they don't give themselves the 426 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: chance to just settle back and to just figure out 427 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: what do they want to do or who do they 428 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: want to be? And so this is why I think 429 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: that I made that kind of the rule Number one 430 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: is visualized and I always comp be to that. You 431 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: can have the best airplane in the world with the 432 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: most advanced pilot, but if he doesn't even know where 433 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: to go, it's just going to fly around and really crashes. 434 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: And that's what happens to your life. If you don't 435 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: know where you want to go and who you want 436 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: to be, you eventually just float around. Then you will 437 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: eventually crash. And that's why a lot of people are unhappy. Yeah, 438 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: they or they take drugs, or they drink, or the 439 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: suicide raisedness. 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There's 470 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: so many internal challenges at home, there's external challenges, there's limitations. 471 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: That you're in a country that's obviously just survived a 472 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: world war. It almost looks like there is no space 473 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: to have vision. Like someone could argue that Arnold, like, 474 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: I mean, how are you having a vision in this space? 475 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: I think what's really interesting is sometimes we feel helpless 476 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: because of where we're born, where we're from, our parenting structure, 477 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: our surroundings. Some people struggle to have a vision because 478 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: they say, well how can I have a vision? Look 479 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: where I am? And then some other people they can't 480 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: have a vision because when they see someone like reg 481 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: Park or mister Austria and your example, what they see 482 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: is oh envy, I wish I had that, you know, like, 483 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: oh why does he have that? Or maybe you know 484 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: I should have that. So I think we live in 485 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: these two worlds where we either feel helpless or sometimes 486 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: we feel envious and egotistical about visions. How did you 487 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: allow yourself or how did you develop that ability? That 488 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: even though around you there wasn't that much success, there 489 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: was more stress, but you saw mister Austria and were 490 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: able to do that. Have you ever figured out what 491 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: that was compared to everyone else you grew up around. 492 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: I just can tell you I was very unhappy. Yeah, 493 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: I was unhappy with the reality of what was around me, 494 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, the tough parents and the lack of food. 495 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: And others had steaks. We didn't have the money for that. 496 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we never ate meat during 497 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: the week. Now the day they would say, oh, this 498 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: is really good because here vegan because more because of 499 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: a lack of money. So we didn't have anything. So 500 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: everywhere I looked, so I think, to me, the only 501 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: way really was in order to be happy is to 502 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: create my own world and to visualize. You know. That's 503 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: why people sometimes read a lot, because they want to 504 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: escape into another story or the day they watched movies, 505 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: to go in to see another to escape into another 506 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: story and all etf For me, that wasn't available in 507 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the first movie. I was always like when it was 508 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: like nine or ten years old. It was not a 509 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: common thing in the village where I grew up to 510 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: go to movies, and I remember there was a collapsible 511 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: kind of a seat. I just felt right down on 512 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: the floor because I had never even heard of a collapse. 513 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: It was did you have to fold it down? So 514 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I folded it down, then waited a little bit, and 515 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: then of course it went back up again. And I 516 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: haven't right down on to the floor. Because of that world, 517 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: the negative world, I had to kind of create my 518 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: own world. So I was just always daydreaming of wonderful things. 519 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: So it was I developed that art, and it put 520 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: a smile on my face so clearly. When I then 521 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: saw mister Austria, mister Universe, and I saw these guys 522 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: and so photographs of it, and I read about it 523 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: in the magazines. I created my vision and they saw 524 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: in that vision myself being up on that stage, and 525 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I saw myself, you know, people screaming around me and 526 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: screaming on or or and all this crazy stuff. It 527 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: was all insane, crazy stuff. Stuff that I never shared 528 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: in those days with anybody is that they would have 529 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: put me in a mental institution, right, So, I mean, 530 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: so I was I just remember that I was sitting 531 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: in a classroom in school. I was like thirteen years old, 532 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: fourteen years old. The teacher will be where you and 533 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: now in front of me teaching, and I would just 534 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: slowly look off to the side out the window, and 535 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: I saw the screen trees, and then all of a 536 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: sudden there said seeing things, and I had a smile, 537 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: just this wonderful stuff to that saw and always said 538 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: I had a chalk landed on my forehead. So the 539 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: teacher threw a chalk at me, kind of saying, hey, 540 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm getting paid to teach you, to teach 541 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: this class of thirty Why are you looking out the 542 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: window now? I couldn't even articulate that this what you're 543 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: teaching here doesn't really blow up my skirt. It's like, 544 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: it's not like kind of something that I'm interested in. 545 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: What I'm interested in is what I just saw when 546 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: I looked out there, and I saw myself on that 547 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: stage in London at the Mister Universe contest, you know, 548 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: and things like that. So I think that with me, 549 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: visualizing became a normal thing. And I never really knew 550 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 1: that I had really a very special ability to visualize 551 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: and to connect the dots to set myself. Well, if 552 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: I can see it, then it must be a reality, 553 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: and I can make it a reality. So for me, 554 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: the vision became a reality. So it was only then 555 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: a matter of following through with the work to get there. 556 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: And this is why in the book one of the 557 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: things I talk about is work your ass off, because 558 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: every single time when I had a vision about anything, 559 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: I had to work my ass off. But it was pleasure. See, 560 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: that is the great thing. When you go to work 561 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: and you know exactly why you're working, then it becomes fun, 562 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: a challenge, it's entertaining sometimes. And when you read that 563 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: seventy eight percent of the American people hate their jobs, 564 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: now think about that. I mean, that must be so 565 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: depressing that you go. Let's say you're working in some 566 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: car planted and you do, like, you know, kind of 567 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: the same work within a window in a car over 568 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: and over, you know, fifty times a day, every day, 569 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: all year long, for thirty years. I mean, it's tough. 570 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: And so this is why it's so important that we 571 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: really have a clear vision, so that you know where 572 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: to go and that wherever it is. If it is 573 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: to become a great auto mechanic, or if it is 574 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: become a great teacher or a politician or a high 575 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: tech engineer, whatever it is. But have a vision and 576 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: then you go after that. You should because now every 577 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: step of the way is going to be great. You 578 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: know when I mean, you pick a doctor. Let's say 579 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: I want to be a doctor. I want to be 580 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: a surgeant. The kid says to themselves at the age 581 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: of fifteen, Well, from that point on, he knows, yeah, 582 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: all the classes he has to take already in high school. 583 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: And then when he goes to college, you know which 584 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: university did to go, what kind of classes is to take, 585 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: and then how long would it take him and all 586 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: of this stuff. So there is a reason for going 587 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: to school rather than all my parents told me that 588 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: I have to go to college, and you just go 589 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: to fulfill this obligation, but there's no goal. Yeah, that's 590 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: what happens to the maturity of kids today. They don't 591 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: have to go and that's why they end up being 592 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: one of the seventy eight percent that are unhappy with 593 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: their jobs and they wish they could change jobs. But 594 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: then it's too late because now you've created a family 595 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: and you have to pay for you know, you rent 596 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: for the apartment, and you have to put food on 597 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: the table, and you have to provide money for the 598 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: kids and for your wife and for the family and 599 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff. So it's really tough. So that's why 600 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: so many people are really always looking for an answer 601 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: or searching for the answer. How can I improve my life? 602 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: How can I make it a little bit better? And 603 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: order stuff? And this is why I did the book, 604 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: and I'll be useful. 605 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you put it in that order, though, 606 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: because I think for everyone who's listening and watching, a 607 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: lot of people will say, I do work hard. I'm 608 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: working my ass off, I'm working my socks off, I'm 609 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: like doing everything I can. But I think what's really 610 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: important is that in the book you start with have 611 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 2: a clear vision. And I agree. I think there are 612 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: a lot of people who are working really, really hard, 613 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: and it's almost like if that hard work was channeled 614 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: toward a clear vision, as you say, then that hard 615 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: work pays off, right, because otherwise a lot of people 616 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: just working hard, getting stressed, putting on pressure, but there 617 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 2: isn't that vision. Have you found what was the greatest 618 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: sacrifice you ever made in your life? Do you think? 619 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: And what was the reward that you gained from it? 620 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: What was the biggest sacrifice. 621 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: That is really the question is is it really a sacrifice? 622 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: Because you love it exactly. To me, it's also a 623 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: real question is the word discipline, because I tell you 624 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: I felt many times that I'm not a disciplined person. 625 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: But people always insist and said, oh, it must take 626 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: so much discipline every day to get up and every 627 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: day you went in a gym at seven in the morning, 628 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: and you worked at the nine thirty in the morning, 629 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: and then you went to college after that, and then 630 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: you went desinated and he worked in constructions. I was 631 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: like looking forward to getting up in the morning and 632 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: looking forward driving to the gym and working out two 633 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: enough house and then going down to the beach and 634 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: taking around in the deep sand and getting some cardio 635 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: work down in the orders of I said, I was 636 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. It was not like, oh my god, 637 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: I have to do another workout. Yes, you do that when, 638 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: for instance, sometimes people go to the gym and the 639 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: doctor says, you know, you should go to the gym 640 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: and you should work out because otherwise, you know, I 641 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: see some problems coming up high cholesterol and body fat 642 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: and this and that, and you're gonna go and wipe out. 643 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, ten years is younger than you want to 644 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: if there's every the right time to wipe out. But 645 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean, in any case, so that person you can 646 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: see in the gym is there and they just they 647 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: do their reps and they do their sets, and they're 648 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: not really into it. You can see there's not life 649 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: in the eyes, you know what I'm saying. Way, just 650 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: like really, they grab the weight and they do the sets, 651 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: and they get the pump and they feel good and 652 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: they put the weights down and get the next heavy 653 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: weight and then do the set and so that's really fun. 654 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: But that person is kind of like a vegetable in 655 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: a way. They just cruise around in the gym. They 656 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: sit on the life cycling and they just peddle away. 657 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: And when you say to them, missus, so why do 658 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: you work out? They have no answer. Then eventually they say, well, 659 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: to be honest, we do. The doctor told me that 660 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: I should get in shape. That's better for my health, 661 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 1: to bring my blood pressure down and my cholesterol down 662 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: and my body fat down. And always so then it 663 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: really so I say to them, I always say, said, 664 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: you know what you should do is you should just 665 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: pick a goal that you can chase. They will say 666 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: like what I said, Well, how much you weigh? I'm 667 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: weighing one hundred and ninety pounds, And then I want 668 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: to lower my body fat body weight. I said, well, 669 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: why don't you pick a goal, like you want to 670 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: go down one hundred and seventy and did and is 671 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: now March, and by August when you go to the beach, 672 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a slimmer waist, less body fat, and 673 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: you look leaner and you can be proud of your body. 674 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: And then picked that. Go, oh, that's a good idea. 675 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: I said, write it down, and then write down the 676 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: sets you have to do to get you there, and 677 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: the amount of reps you have to do, and the 678 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: amount of life cycling did you have to run? And 679 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: raking a bicycle and running? Did you have to write 680 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: all of this down? And then you market off every 681 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: day you market off. That's what I did to me. 682 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: There was really that dead feedback that they see a 683 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: line being crossed that means one was set, was done. 684 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: It was a satisfying kind of a thing. The line 685 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: was crossed off, the next line was crossed off. And 686 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: so I tell people that and then they they say, oh, 687 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: my God, this is your I'm going to do that. 688 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: That is such a great idea. Then they come back 689 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 1: to me like a few months later and they said, 690 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 1: this worked. It was underlore. It worked, it was fantastic, 691 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: and it really gave me a purpose. She said, that's 692 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: what it's important to have a purpose, Ma, to do 693 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: things that a clear vision will they do things, because 694 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: then you don't have to look at it kind of 695 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: like I have to be really disciplined to do that, 696 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: or I have to make certain sacrifices to do that, 697 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: because then it just drags you in the dead direction 698 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: and you just do the work, you know. So that's 699 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: what I think is always that, But clearly there were 700 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: sacrifices like for let me just give you one exact please, 701 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: What do you think it's like when you go and 702 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: you run for governor and you promise the people that 703 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: you are going to be my number one pro. Now 704 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: you win. Now you have to do the work. But 705 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: now you come home and your kids are crying on 706 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: the dinner table. When you come home and Daddy didn't 707 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: come to my recital on Monday. Daddy, you didn't come 708 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: to my football practice on Tuesday. Daddy, you promised me, 709 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: did you come into the school and to take me 710 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: to school? You didn't this week, So that is devastating 711 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: when the kids are crying and complaining and you say yourself, 712 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, I promised the people that they're number one, 713 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: but I also promised my family. I promised my wife 714 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: when you are the first child, that they're going to 715 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: be number one. So that's a dilemma. Now you're in 716 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: a dilemma, and now you have to make certain sacrifices. 717 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: And I had to make certain sacrifices comes to spending 718 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: time with my family, where my wife had to pick 719 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: up the slacks and she had to do the extra work. 720 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: So there were sacrifices made that were painful. Sometimes when 721 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: you see your kids crying, that's painful and then you 722 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: know it's your fault. But that's the situation you're in, 723 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: and you put yourself in this situation. You had a 724 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: choice to run for governor or not to run for governor. 725 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: Right if I would have continued with my movie business, 726 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: those kids were in heaven because they were in a 727 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: movie in my makeup trailer. They were watching me getting 728 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: made up as the terminator or for any of those 729 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: kind of movies. They were in my motor home and 730 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: they were doing their homework in the afternoon. There. They 731 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: brought their friends with them, so there was fun. Now, 732 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they go up to Sacramento and 733 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: everyone is running around with a suit and with the tie. 734 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: And they come to me and says that what did 735 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: you do? Why are you having this job? They were 736 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: like eleven twelve years old, and they said, why do 737 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: you have this job? Now? I say, everyone has a 738 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: suit and at tie, and everyone looks really serious and 739 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: they all attack you. They say bad things about you. 740 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: I said, what is the way? It's politics. I say, 741 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: as soon as you run first you have like an 742 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: eighty percent popularity, and then as soon as you run, 743 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: they see if you popularity goes down to fifty percent 744 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: because fifty percent of the other side, uh the other party. 745 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: So you run as a Republican, say it's fifty percent 746 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: of the Democrats they hate you or they don't like you. 747 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: And then that the Republicans like you, but they don't 748 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: even like you because says, yeah, he's doing to socially 749 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: liberal whatever. So he said. My campaign manager always says, 750 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: this is honord. Twenty percent of the people hate their mother. 751 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: So don't worry about someone hating you. It's just the 752 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: way it is in politics, you know. So anyway, So 753 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: this is so you have to make sacrifices like that. 754 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: Imagine a sacrifice you have to take when you come 755 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: to this country. I mean, you know what it is like. 756 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: You leave everything behind, my friends, my parents, my relatives, 757 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: everything that was around me that was kind of like 758 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: a sure thing. I had a job after the military 759 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: that it could go to continue on the job that 760 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: they did as a salesman. I had all of this 761 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: that left orders for uncertainty because there was no certainty 762 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: coming to America. There was Joe Weeder that said I'm 763 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: going to help you find the apartment, I find your car. 764 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: Yet there were some people that helped a lot. He's 765 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: the one that said, gave me the alien ticket, become 766 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: to the American and order stuff. Choe Whedder is the 767 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: publisher of the Muscle magazines. He has passed away in 768 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: the meantime, but I mean he was like the guru 769 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: of bodybuilding. He created bodybuilding. The Federation was created by 770 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: his brother Ben Whiter and Joe had the endless amount 771 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 1: of magazines and distribution company for weight equipment for food 772 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: suppraments and order. So he brought me here. So there 773 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: was some help like this, but I mean I walked 774 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: away from all this comfort didn't coome to America. So 775 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: yet there were major major soccer like that. But I've 776 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: really never looked at it in that way because I 777 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: just said to myself, I want to go to America. 778 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: I want to go and be there and work my 779 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: way up to become the greatest bodybuilder of all times. 780 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: And that's you know, we are talking about one of 781 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: the other rules, yes, is in that book, which is 782 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: that to shoot for big gore. Yeah, and never think small. 783 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: It's just as much energy or as little energy as 784 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: shooting for a little gore. You know that it's just 785 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: as much hassle. I mean if a little gored. Let's say, 786 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: if I would say I want to be mister Austria, 787 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: well that's as much working out then working out for 788 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: mister Europe or mister Universe. So I mean you might 789 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: as well just continue on and just say okay or 790 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: after now. The difference rule is then you have to 791 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: become a real professional. You have to know how to pose, 792 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: you have to have the right tan, you have to 793 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: take the right food supplements. You have to eat the 794 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: right food. You have to really fine tune, you have 795 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: to get the definition. It's not just the size of 796 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: the body. So the higher you go, the more complicated 797 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: he gets to win. But I said to myself, to 798 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: me to shoot for the goal of being a world champion, 799 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 1: it's just as easy shooting for goal of being mister Austria, 800 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 1: being the Austrian champion. So I just went all out, 801 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: and not only to to win the world championships in bodybuilding, 802 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: but to go beyond Rich Park, who won at that 803 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: point three mister Universe titles. To go beyond that, and 804 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: they say, I want to actually become the greatest bodybuilder 805 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: of all time, all times that there was the mcgaurdan. 806 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: So that's why I had to come to America, where 807 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: there is a muscle beach, where there's gorge gym, where 808 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: all the champions work out together, where there's Joe Weed, 809 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: that they can be helpful and publish you and put 810 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: you on the cover of his magazines. And of this 811 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: the promotion, the campaign, the training, the marketing of bodybuilding 812 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: and order. So to me, this was really the only 813 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: way to go is to come to Los Angeles and 814 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: on top of it, Los Angeles is known for Hollywood, 815 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: and this is my next career. So I always say 816 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: to myself that wed Reg Park, I saw him in 817 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 1: Hercules movies. So can you believe that that this guy 818 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: won Mister Universe three times? And then he was discovered 819 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: in Rome in Gini Chitta and I saw him there 820 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: and they said, oh my god, you are Hercules. We're 821 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: going to send you the acting classes in the acting 822 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: school and you're going to play Hercules. And then Steve 823 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: Reeves did the same thing, who was another Mister Universe 824 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: from nineteen forty, nineteen fifty. Yeah, Steve Reef from nineteen fifty, 825 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: Rich Park nineteen fifty one. So both of them became Hercules. 826 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: Then there was many other body bullers that became They 827 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: did Hercules movies or those Gladiator movies and muscle movies 828 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: and stuff like that in the sixties. Said but it 829 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: became very famous. But the MESSI I said myself, if 830 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: rig Park could get into movies, maybe even I go 831 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: to America and I become the world's greatest bodybuilder, then 832 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: they would ask me to go in the movies. And 833 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: so this is what's the idea. So to me, it 834 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: was natural. There's Hollywood in Los Angeles, there's Muscle Beach 835 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, there's Coach sim in Los Angeles, there's 836 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: Showda here. This is perfect. I have to go there. 837 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: That was the reason why I went here. 838 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: Did you ever have a Plan B? 839 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: I never believed in plan B because I felt kind 840 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 1: of like one of the rules we have in there 841 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: in my book is never listened to the naysayers, you know, 842 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: to me, I always felt kind of like every single 843 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: dream of mine, of course, I have to say, they 844 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 1: were outrageous dreams. So people said, this is stupid. Yeah, 845 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: well is the matter with you? That would never happen? 846 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, your dreams to go to America? What do 847 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: you think they're waiting for you over there? I mean, 848 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,959 Speaker 1: if plenty of people over there, they've always three hundred 849 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: million populations. They don't need any more. And so that 850 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: was the kind of thing, is that you would never 851 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: make it to America and they don't need you. So no, impossible. 852 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: When I said don't want to be a world champion 853 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: body but that was impossible. When I didn't want to 854 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: get into movies, that was impossible. So it was always impossible. 855 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: So I felt that we can go and defend ourselves 856 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: from that and just not listen to the naysayers. But 857 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: if I start having a plan B, then all of 858 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm becoming in a way and they say 859 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 1: it to myself. So because that means now that I'm saying, well, 860 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: maybe this isn't working out, and if it's not working out, 861 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: we should have a plan B. So to me, this 862 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: is the most dangerous of all the they sayers is 863 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: me saying no, and it's impossible, maybe to myself. So 864 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 1: therefore I felt the best way of handling that is 865 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: is not to have a safety net and not to 866 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: have a plan B. That I'm at risk and therefore 867 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: I have to be at all times on the edge 868 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: and a ten so I don't fall where I would 869 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: need a safety net. This is the way I had 870 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: dealt with that issue. Never have a plan B. Always 871 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 1: go for go all out with my plan and really 872 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: put one hundred percent of effort into it in order 873 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: to really achieve it. And I just always believed in 874 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: my goals. I mean, I remember when I ran for 875 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: governor and people said you're crazy. I mean, you know 876 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: this great Davis is going to take you out, and 877 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: then if he doesn't push the monthy is the lieutenant governor. 878 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: There's all seasoned politicians. You don't know anything about politics, 879 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. Why don't you run first for 880 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: mayor and why don't you do this? No. I was 881 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,919 Speaker 1: very clear with my vision. I could see myself as 882 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: the governor because I felt that the people in California 883 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 1: were very upset at the regular politicians. I mean, they 884 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 1: were always talking about what they know and how smart 885 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: they are and how they're going to fix things. In 886 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: the meantime, we had a thirty billion dollar deficit. In 887 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: the meantime, we're blackouts. In the meantime, they were handing 888 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: out driver's license to illegal immigrants or they called undocumented immigrants, 889 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 1: and everything that the people were against, and the people 890 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: didn't like the Indian gaming tribes were gambling and having 891 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: gambling casinos but not being taxes, so they were mad 892 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: about that. So I would just tell people if I 893 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: become governor, I would change all that. And the workers' 894 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: compensation costs for businesses in California, I would cut it 895 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: in half. That's why so many businesses left California because 896 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: of the costs of doing business. So I said, I 897 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: were cut it in half. And so this is exactly 898 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: people bought in because I was talking believable. I mean, 899 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: there was I could put my hand in the fire 900 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: for the people to do the things that I promised 901 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: those things will be done, and I said I would 902 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: do it most of those things before breakfast, the first 903 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: event I'm in office. So that always sounded good, so 904 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: in anykay. So but the people bought in. And I 905 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 1: remember that when President Bush and this guy has called 906 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: me from the White House. They said, you want the 907 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: president to come out the campaign for you. I said no, no, no, no, no, 908 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: I said, because then it becomes kind of a political thing. 909 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: But the Republicans are helping each other. And then Greg 910 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: Davis is going to have out, you know, Bill Clinton, 911 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: and I'll go and John Carry and you know all 912 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: of those guys. And that's exactly what happened. He had 913 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: all those people come out campaign for him. And I told, oh, 914 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: my guys, no, don't come out because I wanted to 915 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 1: be the David and not the goliath. I want to 916 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: be the underdog and kind of say, look, this is 917 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: just between me and the voters. So that was my vision, 918 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 1: not a political strategy vision, but I mean that was 919 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 1: my vision. I said, I have to be the person 920 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 1: that is by himself that is kind of crawling up there, 921 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: and that it's communicating with the voters. I don't need 922 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: someone to speak for me or anything like that. Yes, yeah, 923 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: you and communications director and all this stuff. But I 924 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 1: didn't need to have President Bush come out and speak 925 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: for me. I didn't have to have the Vice president 926 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: come out to speak for or anything like this. I 927 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: wanted this between me and the thing, and it worked. 928 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: People figured it out that I'm out there that I'm 929 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: promising them, and they bought into it. And that one 930 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: and so this is why it is so important that 931 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: did you have really a one percent belief and not 932 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: having to go and say, my plan B if this 933 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: doesn't work is I'm going to go back to movies. 934 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 1: But they would unfold anyway, you know. So, but let's 935 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: first go all out and not have a plan B. 936 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: This is the thing. And so I've never had a 937 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 1: plan B. 938 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's really really great clarity again of just 939 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 2: determination that there's no other options. And I like what 940 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 2: you said, Well, what really connected with me at least 941 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 2: is this idea of how you can become your own 942 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 2: naysayer right now having a plan B, is you talking 943 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: yourself out of why you should go all in. 944 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: Or you're you're already putting it on a kind of 945 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: shaky grounds. 946 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, go yeah, you're already setting it. 947 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: You already say well if we wait a minute, If 948 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: you say if, that means there's a possibility in your 949 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: mind this could fail, and that is a dangerous road 950 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: to go. I think I agree. 951 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: Where did you go when a few moments ago you 952 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 2: were talking about how the kids are upset when your 953 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 2: governor obviously public gets upset when someone's in a position 954 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 2: of power. You've got all these people who rely on 955 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 2: you personally and professionally, and you even said to yourself like, 956 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't really talk about it. You can't really, no 957 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 2: one can really understand that. What did you do at 958 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 2: that time? Where did you go for connection and understanding 959 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: and even getting to talk to yourself at that time? 960 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: Well, you just have to find a compromise. So what 961 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: you then do is you just say, Okay, I'm going 962 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: to go and spend an extra day at home. So, 963 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: because there was the choice being in Los Angeles, a 964 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,959 Speaker 1: lot of days or the been Sacramento. So I spent 965 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: four days a week in Sacramento and three days a 966 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 1: week in Los Angeles. And I decided then to spend 967 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: another day in Los Angeles and to go to this 968 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: school recital or to go to some kind of a 969 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: practice sessions of you know, my kid playing football or 970 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,479 Speaker 1: baseball or something like that, and to go to those things. 971 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: So to figure out a way, and it didn't take 972 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: anything away from my public service, but it gave a 973 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: little bit more time FaceTime for the kids. And you know, 974 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: it really is absolutely crucial for the kids, not just 975 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: to see their mom coming to school, but then he 976 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: did dad also, you know, And so that's exactly what 977 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: it did. And I totally understood. I talked to my 978 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,240 Speaker 1: wife about it. But like I said on the aunt, 979 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: she was really the one that was the powerhouse in 980 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: the family because she spent I would say, eighty percent 981 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 1: of the time with the kids and I did twenty 982 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: percent because I was stuck in Sacramento. And even though 983 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 1: she worked also as first lady, and she was in Sacramento, 984 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: but she spent much more time with the kids. And luckily, 985 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: when you have a good partner then you can do 986 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: a lot of those things alone. I couldn't have done it. 987 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And you mentioned I think in the documentary too, 988 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: that if there was an oscars for divorces, then you 989 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 2: should get one because of how even in that circumstance 990 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 2: you both have found a way to let the kindness 991 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 2: be even the way you're speaking about Yeah. 992 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: Because because it's kind of the most important thing is 993 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: it's one thing if you suffer through it. It's another 994 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: thing if your wife suffers through it. But the kids 995 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: are really totally innocent bystanders, right, So we had too 996 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: kind of My wife and I have a very good 997 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: working together, so the kids don't really feel a bump 998 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 1: in the road, and that's things are smooth for them. 999 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: And again it's important. I mean I saw it very 1000 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: clearly that it can be done, and we did it, 1001 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: and we were very happy with the outcome. We're very, 1002 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: very proud of our kids. I mean, they're extraordinary. 1003 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had the fortune of interviewing Catherine probably a 1004 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 2: couple of years ago when her book came out, so 1005 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 2: I've got to have some interaction with her and Maria 1006 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 2: and I've had several interactions too, and. 1007 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 1: Katherine is a carbon copy of Maria, and Maria is 1008 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: a carbon copy of Eunice, and Unice is a carbon 1009 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: copy of Rose Kennedy. So this is how it goes 1010 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: down to me. It's like they're like clones. They exactly 1011 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, exactly what you get from them. I mean, 1012 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: it's like Katrine, I mean, I'm so proud of her 1013 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: of what the woman she has become, and so is 1014 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: with Christina, with my other daughter and the boys. It's 1015 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: just it's a lot of fun. I never thought that 1016 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,919 Speaker 1: having kids would be that much fun, I said, because 1017 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: I only in the beginning. I always thought about, you know, 1018 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: the work that it would take, you know, to take 1019 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: them to school and to go to their recitals and 1020 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: the practices and to teach them and to have to 1021 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: swimming coach o when you know you have to just 1022 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: be part of everything you have to teach them, to 1023 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: teach them, you know, from just swimming to running, to 1024 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: football to what snow skiing. You know, you have to 1025 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: just be on top of everything. And also having animals, 1026 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 1: because one of the most important things with kids is 1027 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: if you have the space. That is, if you're in 1028 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: a little tiny apartment and maybe a cat is good, 1029 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: but the mean normally it's kind of like good when 1030 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: you have dogs or when you have like we have 1031 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: a miniature pony, We had horses, a donkey and the 1032 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: Lulu the miniature donkey. We had pigs now I have 1033 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: a pig again. The kids and the anymore. But it 1034 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: never stops. But I mean so because the kids grow 1035 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 1: up with this animals and you teach them how to 1036 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,439 Speaker 1: take care of them. This is extremely important because they 1037 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: have to have a sense of responsibility. You can't just say, oh, 1038 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: I would like to have a rabbit or I would 1039 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: like to have a pig. Yeah, but you take care 1040 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: of it. So that's what they've learned. 1041 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 2: One of the lessons in your book is sell, sell, sell, 1042 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 2: and we just talked about it now. When you're talking 1043 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 2: about almost selling yourself to become governor, there's a certain 1044 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 2: promotion marketing approach to galvanizing people to get behind you. 1045 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 2: And I think the word sales and selling has a 1046 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 2: lot of people have a negative connotation or a difficulty 1047 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: with selling because it almost feels like there has to 1048 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 2: be something fake about it. I've always found that if 1049 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 2: you're proud of what you're selling, if you really believe 1050 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 2: in it, then it's easier to sell it. But generally 1051 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 2: people have a challenge with like the word cell. But 1052 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 2: you say one of your lessons is sell, sell, sell, 1053 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 2: So walk us through how you were able to I mean, obviously, 1054 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 2: even all the movies, the franchises you've created, it requires promotion, 1055 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 2: it requires selling, and of course they were highly entertaining. 1056 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,439 Speaker 2: But tell us what you learned about how to sell 1057 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 2: effectively but also authentically. 1058 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: First of all, I think you're totally right that the 1059 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: words selling sometimes comes off sleazy. So that's why I 1060 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: can call it promotion or communicating or whatever you call it. 1061 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: And the point of it is that you can have 1062 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,919 Speaker 1: the best product in the world, But if no one 1063 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: knows about it, what's the point of the product? I mean, 1064 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: I would I like to know, for instance, if there 1065 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: is someone out there that does a heart surgery or 1066 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: valve replacement without having to have open heart surgery. But 1067 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: if I don't know, I would just go to the 1068 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 1: husband and say I won't have an open heart surgery 1069 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: and I want to get the valve replaced. But if 1070 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I know because they promoted it, well, I can go 1071 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: down and call that expert and then go and say, so, 1072 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: this is why I think it's so important. So to me, 1073 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: I learned the art of selling way back when I 1074 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 1: was fifteen years old, when I was in trade school, 1075 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: and when I was working for this lumberyard, kind of 1076 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: construction company, hardware store. It was like a combination of things. 1077 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: We were taught how to sell the merchandise, and then 1078 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: sometimes we were able to follow the guid that is 1079 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: the boss. And he one time said to missus, Arnold, 1080 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: why don't you help me here? And he would talk 1081 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 1: to the customer, and I realized quickly that there was 1082 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: something art going on that all of a sudden his 1083 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 1: attention focused on the wife. It was this couple. They 1084 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: wanted to have some tiles for the bathroom and for 1085 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: the kitchen, and there he first talked to him and 1086 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: how much money does he want to spend in order 1087 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: what colors? Then all of a sudden, it was like 1088 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: he ended up only talking to the woman. So he said, so, 1089 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 1: what did you learn? I say, well, I learned that 1090 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: you were really very clear about all the advantages and 1091 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: disadvantages of the various different tiles and the verious different colors. 1092 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: He says, yeah, yeah, that's right. But it's one dimension, 1093 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: but what else, I said, I don't know. He says, 1094 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 1: did you see how I shifted and my attention went 1095 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: from the husband to the wife? I said, yeah, yeah, 1096 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: what was that all about? And he says, well, I 1097 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: realized that he had really no interest in the tiles 1098 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and what color should be, what type real tiles or 1099 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: fake tiles or what. It was her vision and it 1100 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 1: was her desire to have new tiles, and he just 1101 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: went along with it because he's the husband, is the 1102 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: provider of the family. He makes the money. She didn't 1103 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: make the money, but she had a very clear vision 1104 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: of what she wanted. So I shifted my focus because 1105 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: I realized that she is the customer, not him, and 1106 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: you got to go and be able to reach the customer. 1107 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: And this is why I started talking to her more. 1108 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: It was and then he just out of courtesy, said so, 1109 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: what do you think should have delivered on Thursday? And says, yeah, whenever, 1110 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: you will just always say whatever, And she says, Friday 1111 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: is better because Friday, my husband is at home in 1112 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: the afternoon, so he can help you carrying all this 1113 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: stuff up to the second floor and flower. So she 1114 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,959 Speaker 1: was much more precise and so that's why he spent 1115 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: most of his time with that. So those are the 1116 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: things that I've learned when I was selling, and how 1117 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: important it is to actually let the people know that 1118 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: you have this product I was. I went right after 1119 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: that a few years later, I went to Munich and 1120 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I after the military, served there as a trainer in 1121 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: a body building gym and we had, like I remember, 1122 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty members, and there was another gym 1123 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 1: in Munich that had five hundred members. And that guy 1124 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: his name was Ryan huts Moulana. He was mister Europe 1125 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 1: and I was at this point not mister Europe yet. 1126 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: That was junior mister Europe, but not mister Europe net 1127 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: yet and that didn't compete in any other international competitions. 1128 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: So I was training really hard. I said myself, if 1129 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: I could go to the Mister Universe contest and I 1130 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 1: compete and they do really well, I could maybe outdo him. 1131 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: And so this is what I did. I trained really 1132 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: hard for months, and then in September was the Mister Universe. 1133 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: End of September Mister Universe condest, and I happened to 1134 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 1: play second, which they called runner up. Yes, so this 1135 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: was my order that point was to be in the 1136 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: top six. Because I was nineteen years old. There was 1137 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: second place winner. So when I came back from London 1138 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 1: to Munich, I ran around on a construction site which 1139 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: is a baiting Sudan like a lunatic, and everyone was 1140 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 1: dressed up in their suits and everything else, and they said, 1141 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: what is this guy doing? That was walking out on 1142 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: the construction site and greeting people and all this stuff, 1143 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: hoping that some press would show up because there's this 1144 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 1: crazy guy running around in the cold weather with just 1145 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: a bad little basing suit. And sure enough, newspaper showed up, 1146 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: a photographer showed up, and they asked me after it's 1147 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: why are you running around like that? And they said, well, 1148 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that my Gymnasium Universal Gym 1149 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: is in the newspaper. I said, okay, well let's take 1150 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 1: a good shot. When you take this saw over the end, 1151 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: you help this guy with the construction sat doing some 1152 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 1: cutting off the wood and stuff, and then we would 1153 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: take we would create some pictures that are really funny, 1154 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: and they put it in the newspaper the next day 1155 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: and he says, Schwartzenegger just came back from mister Universe 1156 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: was running up in the Mister Universe contest, which makes 1157 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: him the biggest title holder in Germany. Wow. So I 1158 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: made it clear that they know that, not that the 1159 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: Mister Europe is bigger or but the second in the 1160 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 1: Mister univers is the biggest title holder. So he said 1161 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: there was like I was. Now that story was in 1162 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: the paper and we had within no time, we had 1163 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: beaten him with the Timnasium membership and had over five 1164 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: hundred and his was low and he I remember him calling. 1165 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: So in fact, I worked out him myself in his 1166 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: gym because we worked out together, because it's much better 1167 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: when you have a good training partner that is a 1168 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: champion himself. And we were laughing about it. So then 1169 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: just to show you how important promotion is, so then 1170 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: he started secretly posting posters all over the city on 1171 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 1: construction sites the Simulana gym. We train you, you become 1172 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: a champion, more energy, healthier body, this, this and that 1173 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,959 Speaker 1: and noticed stuff. So when I saw the posters, I said, 1174 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to go and create posters myself for the gym. 1175 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: So we created posters and then we went. I followed 1176 01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 1: him with the car and he was going at ten 1177 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: o'clock at night on Friday, putting the posters up there. 1178 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 1: And then after you put the post up with the glue, 1179 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: he then left, and then I put my post on 1180 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 1: top of his wet glue because I came right after him. 1181 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I didn't wait until the tries went after him include 1182 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: my post on top of him. And so this was 1183 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of like the post of war amongst the gym owners. 1184 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 1: It was hilarious, but it was all It was all 1185 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: about selling memberships because I knew that my salary comes 1186 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: and it's getting paid for from those moneies that are 1187 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: coming in from the members, and so I wanted to 1188 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: be able to buy food supplements. I wanted to be 1189 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: able to buy myself good food and the trips to 1190 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 1: those various different competitions in order to say it was 1191 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: very important that our membership goes up, that we are 1192 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: very successful. But it's all about selling. And so when 1193 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 1: I came to America, there was in my ploot now 1194 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: selling and communicating and promoting. So when I did, I 1195 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 1: remember my book promotion I'm Not the Education of a Bodybuilder. 1196 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Simon and Schuster wanted to have it, you know, sell 1197 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand copies. So I said, well, I want 1198 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 1: to have it on the best seller list. No body 1199 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: building magazine was ever on the best seller list, forget 1200 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: about that. I said, well, I said, let's give it 1201 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: a shot. How many cities do we go and promote 1202 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: the book? And he says, well, here's six cities I suggests, 1203 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 1: And so I said to him, I said, why don't 1204 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,839 Speaker 1: we go to thirty cities? You're crazy? So he was laughing. 1205 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 1: But then I put together schedule and for thirty cities 1206 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 1: in thirty days, and I was crisscrossing America. I was 1207 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:49,440 Speaker 1: going from ninety degree temperature in Miami up to Minnesota 1208 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: that was like in the below zero. So it was 1209 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 1: literally like one hundred degree temperature differences in the same day. 1210 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: So this is how much I crisscrossed this country. And 1211 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: it was absolutely fantastic. We want the best seller list. 1212 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,280 Speaker 1: We sold, you know, two hundred and fifty thousand hardcovers 1213 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and it was like a total 1214 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: smash as a body building and fitness book. And so 1215 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 1: this is again and over again I have seen that 1216 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: not just the will power to succeed, but to be 1217 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 1: able to sell and to communicate and to be out 1218 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,599 Speaker 1: and to actually talk about it. You know, I think 1219 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 1: it's important to let people know you don't have to 1220 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 1: force the issue into the heart cell where you talk 1221 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 1: about all time. Buy my book and by and by it. 1222 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: This is the only way you're going to stay healthy. 1223 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 1: In the orders of no, you don't have to do that. 1224 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: It's just in an indirect way. But the key thing 1225 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 1: is that when people walk away from the interview that 1226 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,719 Speaker 1: they know about it. And this is also very important. 1227 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Like for instance, when when we were doing Johnny Corson Show, 1228 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,879 Speaker 1: you know, I was learning at that time about bridging. 1229 01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, where the bridge from a specific subject. Someone 1230 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: asked you to then, what do you want to talk about? 1231 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: It's an art, you know. So my friend was vice 1232 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: president of Nationwide Insurance and he told me about it. 1233 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: He said that he has taken many seminars about the 1234 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, promotion because insurance business is very important. Did 1235 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,360 Speaker 1: you promote and did you communicate and publicize and orders? 1236 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: And so I asked him about it and he told me. 1237 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 1: He says, well, bridging is one of the most important things. 1238 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: So he taught me about that, and of course I 1239 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: was on Johnny Corson Show promoting Conan the Babarian, just 1240 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: to give you an example. And Johnny Coston says, he says, so, 1241 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: oh no, this is really unbelieverable. It says that how 1242 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: long have you been working out? When did you start 1243 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,679 Speaker 1: and why did you start working out? So I said 1244 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: to myself, Okay, if I answered this question in a 1245 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 1: thorough way, he will not sell one to go to 1246 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: see Conan. So I said, I got to go and bridge. 1247 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 1: And so what I did was the answered very briefly, 1248 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 1: because you have to sound stupid if you talk about 1249 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 1: something else. But I would say, say, Johnny, the very 1250 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: good question is say I was fifteen, but I tell you, 1251 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: at fifteen I did not know that at one time 1252 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 1: it is absolutely essential to have this kind of a body. 1253 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:23,560 Speaker 1: He says. Imagine Conan the Barbarian, the way Frank Frazetta 1254 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: painted Cone and the Barbarian with the muscles amid the 1255 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: determination of yourself. And there was no one around to 1256 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 1: do this character. That's why they've never filmed Conan. I said, 1257 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 1: now here I come, missed the universe body, and now 1258 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: I do Conan the Barbarian, and it is now believable 1259 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 1: because people want to see me handle the sword and 1260 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 1: killing all these people. I said, it's believable because they 1261 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 1: see the muscles. So I said, now that my wildest 1262 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 1: dreams with fifteen, did I think that one day there's 1263 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: muscles would be so important in the movies and stuff 1264 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: like that. So I sold now to answer this question. 1265 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 1: So I was fifteen, but I sold Conan the Barbarian, 1266 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, the muscles and the fight scenes. And they 1267 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 1: then would add on and say there was just one 1268 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: scene in the camera, and I punched up the camera 1269 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: and blah blah blahah. So you then just spice it up, 1270 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: and so this is what you know, selling and communicating 1271 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: is all about. I was very fortunate that my head 1272 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: was in that so much because when I was governor, 1273 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 1: that is the most important thing to communicate to the people, 1274 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: because otherwise how do you get their boat? 1275 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1276 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Right, So you need the people. You need to go 1277 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: and say here's why we need infrastructure. We need to 1278 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 1: rebuild our roads. We need to build extra freeways, extra highways, 1279 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,839 Speaker 1: extra tunnels and bridges and on rams and off rams. 1280 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 1: I say why, because you want to go do you 1281 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 1: kids school and watch them play football. You don't want 1282 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: to be late two hours? I say, how many people 1283 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: get stuck in traffic. Neverone will be raising their hands 1284 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 1: and say, well, let's eliminate it. Let's terminate this problem, 1285 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,440 Speaker 1: let's build my roads. Vote yes and proposition one A. 1286 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 1: So I explained it to them, not just talking about infrastructure, 1287 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 1: which politicians normally do. But people don't know what infrastructure is. 1288 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 1: I cannot expect them to know. With infrastructures. Is it 1289 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: the electric lines, the power lines? Is it the plumbing? 1290 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,680 Speaker 1: Is it the sewage? Is it the building freeways? Is 1291 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: it building high speed rail? What is infrastructure? All of 1292 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: this is infrastructure, but cer you have to explain it 1293 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 1: to people by saying, do you ever get stuck in traffic? 1294 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: Of course everyone does, So then you say, well, let's 1295 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 1: build my freeways. Let's go and vote for this so 1296 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,560 Speaker 1: they don't get stuck in traffic. So then then know, ah, 1297 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,799 Speaker 1: it moves the traffic fast because we get stuck in traffic. 1298 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:56,200 Speaker 1: So this is why communicating, communicating, communicating, selling, selling, selling, 1299 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: This is what it is about. 1300 01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 2: Oh, those a great story is great examples. Yeah, I 1301 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,639 Speaker 2: love I hope everyone who's listening and watching can latch 1302 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 2: on and get some insights for their own challenges. Those 1303 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 2: are great, and I love that you're going all the 1304 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 2: way from governor through to the gym and the story 1305 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 2: of you running around in your swimsuit is brilliant. What's 1306 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 2: the There was one story actually that aligns with that 1307 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 2: selling point that Will Smith tells of meeting you, and 1308 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 2: he said that he walked into a room and it 1309 01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 2: was you, Sylvester Stallone and John Claude van Dam and 1310 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 2: you were the three that inspired him to go international. 1311 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 2: So he said that when he spoke to you three, 1312 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 2: you all said to him that the market in the 1313 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,480 Speaker 2: USA is huge, but until he become a global superstar, 1314 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 2: you're not really a superstar. And so in the same 1315 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 2: way as you were saying you were going around the 1316 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 2: thirty cities of the US, you've done a lot of 1317 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 2: world touring as well for the movies. 1318 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Well, I explained to him that when I got in 1319 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 1: the movies and talking about Conan the Barbarian was my 1320 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 1: first big international movie. Again, the studio says, we're going 1321 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 1: to send you to Khan to the film firstival was 1322 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 1: then we're going to go and send you to London 1323 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: and maybe the Rome and definitely to Japan. So I said, well, 1324 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 1: why are we only going to four places. They said, well, 1325 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: this is where the big markets are Germany, but the 1326 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: Germans always come to England. Maybe do the press chun 1327 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: kits in England so the Germans are taken care of. 1328 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: Then we have the Japanese. We go to Japan and 1329 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: you're going to do a big promotion there, and then 1330 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 1: then America. Those are the three big markets. So I said, okay, 1331 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: if this is the three big markets, I said, when 1332 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 1: I look at the globe today, I see so many 1333 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,200 Speaker 1: other potential markets. I said, you don't want to build those, 1334 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,639 Speaker 1: you don't want to create those. So I told will Smith, 1335 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 1: I said the story, I said. I told them, I said, 1336 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to France. I'm going to go 1337 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: to England, to Germany, to Holland, to Finland, to Sweden, 1338 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,599 Speaker 1: to Norway. I want to go all over the place. 1339 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: I want to go to the Middle East. I want 1340 01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to go to Africa. I want to go to Australia. 1341 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I want to go all over the place. And said that. 1342 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: They said, you're nuts. I said so because I was 1343 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: thinking about two things. One is to promote the movie 1344 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: and the other one is I have to promote myself. 1345 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 1: Because most people know me as a bodybuilder, not as 1346 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: an actor. So this is a good opportunity for me 1347 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 1: to go around the world for the next month and 1348 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: to promote myself as well. I now I'm doing movies, 1349 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,680 Speaker 1: and this is my first big movie. It's you know, 1350 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,680 Speaker 1: it's called The Barbarian. So it was like a great opportunity. 1351 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,599 Speaker 1: So I told him that, I said, so I slowly 1352 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 1: started building an international market, and the studios were extremely 1353 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 1: pleased because every one of my movies started to get 1354 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger internationally. So it used to be that 1355 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:54,520 Speaker 1: one third was international box office and two thirds was domestic. 1356 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,559 Speaker 1: Then with me, it started going to be fifty to 1357 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 1: fifty domestic, fifty percent international, and eventually it became one 1358 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 1: third domestic and two thirds international. So imagine how much 1359 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 1: more money that it added because of that. And so 1360 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 1: this was a tremendous powers. I said to them, I said, 1361 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 1: don't ever assume that everyone would know about the movie. 1362 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 1: And so you got to go there. You've got to 1363 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 1: show your face. The people, the journalists like to shake 1364 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: your hand. They like to sit down on the round 1365 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 1: table with all of them mic sticking out the ten 1366 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 1: leading radio programs of that country. They sit there all 1367 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 1: day on the table. You're that the eleventh person that 1368 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,679 Speaker 1: sits there, and now you're telling them stories about the movie. 1369 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,759 Speaker 1: I said. They go back to the radio station, says, 1370 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I have an exclusive interview with Will Smith and he's 1371 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,520 Speaker 1: coming up with this movie. It is hot. He looks fantastic, 1372 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: great actor or is it? I say, hey, how can 1373 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:55,240 Speaker 1: it hurt? But do it? Just promote yourself internationally and 1374 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 1: go from country to country. And he said, thank you 1375 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 1: for this really great advice, because if the studio would 1376 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: have said that to me, I would have just said, 1377 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: what did you want to use me? Because but you're 1378 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: saying it. I buy in, I believe it. And he 1379 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 1: has been thankful ever since because of that. 1380 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's great advice. It's great advice, but it's 1381 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 2: it's it's you know, you've got to always let people 1382 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 2: know that there's nothing sleazy about the marketing. And there's 1383 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 2: so many actors always feel like it's beneath them to 1384 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,040 Speaker 2: go out and sell the movie. 1385 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: And they tell them. I said, look, no matter what 1386 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 1: you do, if you're a painter and you paint great paintings, 1387 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,799 Speaker 1: or if you're a musician and you want to promote 1388 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 1: an album, or if you're a movie act and you 1389 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: promote the movie. I said, you have to do that 1390 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 1: because it's the only way people who know about it. 1391 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,599 Speaker 1: The more you do and the better you do it, 1392 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 1: and to actually say the right things about the movie 1393 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 1: that is snappy, that really makes people curious when it goes. 1394 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 1: That's why it's all. It's an art by itself, not 1395 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,920 Speaker 1: just the acting is an art, but the sullen is 1396 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: an art as well. 1397 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, what I love about what you're saying is, you know, 1398 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 2: for me as well, I only moved to LA five 1399 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,679 Speaker 2: years ago, and I feel like I can be quite 1400 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 2: audacious and you know, driven as well. And so when 1401 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,160 Speaker 2: I'm listening to you, what I always find it's interesting 1402 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,160 Speaker 2: because the most successful people in the world they have 1403 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,520 Speaker 2: this audacity in that they already see it as reality, 1404 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 2: and everyone else because it's so audacious, people are trying 1405 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,240 Speaker 2: to catch up or they can't really see it, they 1406 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 2: can't figure it out. And you almost have to have 1407 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 2: that trust that you know where it can go and 1408 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 2: how big it can get. Having actually achieved all your goals, 1409 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 2: becoming the biggest bodybuilder of all time, going further becoming 1410 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 2: this huge movie star you know, you just said that 1411 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 2: you had to go to educate people at one point 1412 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,759 Speaker 2: that you even were a movie star. I think you've 1413 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 2: been good at redefining yourself and re educating people about 1414 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,880 Speaker 2: who you are, from bodybuilding to movies to obviously governor 1415 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,519 Speaker 2: of California. How does it feel to have lived out 1416 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,200 Speaker 2: so many of your visions that you saw so clearly 1417 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 2: as that young man in Austria, How does that actually 1418 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 2: feel well? 1419 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I always say to people, 1420 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 1: I would never switch my life with anyone's life, no 1421 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 1: matter who it is, because I think that I am 1422 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 1: the most privileged person in the world. I mean, it's 1423 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: like to be able to live this many types of lives, 1424 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 1: to live the life of an athlete, of an amateur, 1425 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 1: of a professional, to really get the inside scoop, because 1426 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 1: when you get the inside scoop of one profession, of 1427 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: one sport, you pretty much because you hang out with 1428 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,800 Speaker 1: the bet top football players, with Joe Namath, all of 1429 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,639 Speaker 1: these guys in the seventies, I mean, and with George 1430 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: Foreman and Muhammad Ali, so you get to know really 1431 01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 1: the inside of all sports basically, and uh, I think 1432 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,920 Speaker 1: to learn everything about sports to then learn everything about entertainment. 1433 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,360 Speaker 1: To be now with the greatest of the greatest. I mean, 1434 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 1: imagine that I still met people like Frank Sinatra and 1435 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 1: Bob Hope, Uh, Sammy Davis Junior, Dean Martin and all 1436 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,879 Speaker 1: of those guys. The guy that trained me in comedy 1437 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,920 Speaker 1: was built, Milton Burrow, and then the all these old 1438 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: timer guys, Jimmy Stewart, I mean, the list goes on, 1439 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 1: Lucille Ball, the list goes on and on and on. 1440 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 1: To meet all these people, to work with them, to 1441 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,679 Speaker 1: do photo shoots with them, to go to parties with them, 1442 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: to be at dinner with them, at charity event events 1443 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 1: with them, I mean, it's really staggering to have this 1444 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 1: kind of experience, and then to travel around the world 1445 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 1: and to meet or the political leaders from Gorbachev and 1446 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, every president in the UN States from around 1447 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 1: with Reagan to Jimmy Carter, the George Bush and everyone that. 1448 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 1: The lists on and on, Clinton and all those guys, 1449 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 1: aller It, Nixon, I mean everyone I met and talk 1450 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 1: to and hung out with and learn from Mandela. So 1451 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: it is just like, I mean, who has the privilege 1452 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: to do that and to travel around the Middle East 1453 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 1: and to do the things that people say you can't do, 1454 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 1: like to go from an Arab country to Israel or 1455 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 1: from Eastra there. I hop back and forth all over 1456 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 1: the place, from Iraq to Jordan, to Israel to Kuwait, 1457 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean everywhere, and uh, you know, visiting the American 1458 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 1: soldiers over there and to be there, I mean, it's 1459 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,599 Speaker 1: it's staggering, this kind of life. And then to go 1460 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 1: into the political arena, and then to figure out what 1461 01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,120 Speaker 1: makes really a city or a state or come to 1462 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: run and tick and what kind of players do you need? 1463 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 1: And how do you negotiate with all these people? And 1464 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 1: how do you bring Democrats and Republicans together, and how 1465 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 1: do you come up with your own vision of how 1466 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 1: things should work? Because very quickly, you know, I was 1467 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 1: a hardcore Republican, but very quickly I realized that that's 1468 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 1: not where the action is. The action is not with 1469 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 1: one party. That America is Democrats and Republicans declined to 1470 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 1: state independents together and so that's the team. And as 1471 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 1: a team together we can do great things. But if 1472 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,559 Speaker 1: you start splitting the team, U start falling apart. It's 1473 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 1: like any football team or basketball team. So I said, myself. 1474 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:51,160 Speaker 1: The action is honard bringing them together. Don't insult the Democrats, 1475 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 1: don't insult anybody, bring them together, and let's be a 1476 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 1: public servant rather than a party servant. And so that 1477 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 1: was my new theme. I was so proud of myself 1478 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 1: as it. Maybe five thousand other politicians have talked about this, 1479 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 1: but I mean Obama said there's a blue state and 1480 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 1: read state. There's only the United States. But there's a 1481 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: bogus lines. Really, I mean it sounds good, but I 1482 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 1: mean the reality is different. So you really have to 1483 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 1: show leadership quality, and you really have to kind of 1484 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,640 Speaker 1: make an effort to bring both of them together and 1485 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,680 Speaker 1: to be not afraid to say to the Democrats, as 1486 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 1: a Republican, I need your help, but together we can 1487 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: solve this problem. I cannot do a long healthcare reform 1488 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: as a Republican. I need the Democrats, I need everybody, 1489 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 1: you know. So this is the kind of things, of 1490 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,639 Speaker 1: building infrastructure, doing anything in this state. It was our 1491 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,679 Speaker 1: best work we did together. So I cannot give any 1492 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,200 Speaker 1: party a credit. I have to give credit to the 1493 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,639 Speaker 1: politicians and to the people. And the people really enjoyed 1494 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,599 Speaker 1: that when Democrats and Republicans got together and campaigned together 1495 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:02,400 Speaker 1: for propositions, to vote for the certain propositions in order. 1496 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 1: So I think so I was very, very privileged to 1497 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,680 Speaker 1: be able to do all of those things and to 1498 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,720 Speaker 1: have millions of people listen to you and vote for you. 1499 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 1: And then of course goes to another chapter and another 1500 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 1: subject in a book, which is, you know, give something 1501 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,720 Speaker 1: back to the community, you know, because we are not 1502 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 1: self made people. And I talk about this at great 1503 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 1: length in the book because you know, people so many 1504 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 1: times call me a self made man. I know what 1505 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 1: you're talking about, but I always want to make clear 1506 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,200 Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm not a self made man. 1507 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,599 Speaker 1: I was created by my mother and my father. I 1508 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 1: was created by my teachers, by my coaches, by my 1509 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:52,479 Speaker 1: body building champions that they were my idols, and Joe Wheder, 1510 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,360 Speaker 1: they brought me to America, Eric Morris who was my 1511 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,080 Speaker 1: acting coach, Chuck Nicholson that recommended this acting coach. So 1512 01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,759 Speaker 1: all of these people I had, it's a tremendous amount. 1513 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,120 Speaker 1: My wife did help me in every step of the way, 1514 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, with the kids, that my kids were really 1515 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 1: helpful in my career. So I am a product of 1516 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,080 Speaker 1: all of that and so I think it's important that 1517 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 1: when mean recognize that we have gotten the help, they'll 1518 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 1: be therefore give help back. So that's why you have 1519 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 1: to ask yourself the question, Okay, now, if everyone helped 1520 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 1: me to be where I am, how can I go 1521 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 1: out and help Who can I help? What can I 1522 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 1: help them with? And I talk about it in a 1523 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,800 Speaker 1: book that my father in law, Sergeant S. Driver, had 1524 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 1: this great line at the university speech at Yale where 1525 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,639 Speaker 1: you said, don't look always in a mirror, don't look 1526 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:49,120 Speaker 1: at yourself. You know, destroy that mirror. You will be 1527 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 1: able to look beyond that mirror, and then you will 1528 01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,760 Speaker 1: see the millions of people that need your help. And 1529 01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:00,080 Speaker 1: so this what is all about, is to not just 1530 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 1: look at yourself or be self consumed. Yes you can be, 1531 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:09,400 Speaker 1: but don't forget ever that there's a lot of people 1532 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,640 Speaker 1: out there that need your help. And even though when 1533 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 1: people say, well what can I do? I'm a nobody, 1534 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't have any money, it's focus. It's an excuse 1535 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,879 Speaker 1: right off the top that I don't want to do anything. 1536 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:29,639 Speaker 1: Because when you see Hawaii burning down to the ground, 1537 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that everyone can do, but 1538 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 1: just taking some food and bringing it to this poor folks, 1539 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,800 Speaker 1: bringing some clothing, going out and going to some fundraising 1540 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,000 Speaker 1: and bring a few dollars to them. Whatever it is 1541 01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 1: you can do something, or to go into some inner 1542 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,560 Speaker 1: city school and to help with an after school program 1543 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: and to help kids learn how to read, especially since 1544 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: in America now we have so many students that are 1545 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 1: English is the second language, you know, to help them 1546 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,759 Speaker 1: to learn English and all this stuff. So there's endless 1547 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 1: amount of things. I just always felt that I have 1548 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 1: to be all out. I remember when Rudy Giuliani called 1549 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 1: me when he was mayor of New York. He said, 1550 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,479 Speaker 1: oh my god, you know that buildings came down and 1551 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: we're creating a Twin Tower fund. Can you send a 1552 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 1: million dollars? I said, yah, you got it tomorrow in 1553 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,760 Speaker 1: two seconds. I didn't even think about it, you know. 1554 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 1: So that's what you do when when we need needed masks. 1555 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 1: When COVID broke out and and Los Angeles, the hospitals 1556 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,680 Speaker 1: didn't have any masks. So I immediately put in a 1557 01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 1: million dollars towards a fund that we put together uh 1558 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 1: to do to raise eight million dollars and then to 1559 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 1: get masks from all over the world and especially from 1560 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 1: Asian countries, and so we can supply them with masks 1561 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:53,479 Speaker 1: and gowns and with gloves and with vandilators and stuff 1562 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 1: like that. There was a company called flex Port that 1563 01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 1: was was within days got a the mask. Even though 1564 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,559 Speaker 1: the government said they're no mask around. They can get 1565 01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,479 Speaker 1: any mask. So either this are things like that or 1566 01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's an Earthquaker. If this is that, 1567 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 1: you go out and you reach out. And that's why 1568 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm involved in after school programs. That's why I was 1569 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 1: involved in Special Olympics and being a trained and a 1570 01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 1: coach for Special Olympians to help them with the winning 1571 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,800 Speaker 1: medals and becoming champions and all of stuff. So that's 1572 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 1: what life is all about. To receive and to give. 1573 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 2: Was said, Arnold was said, and yeah, definitely more notes 1574 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 2: in the book for anyone who wants to dive into 1575 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,479 Speaker 2: some of those stories. But Arnold, we end every episode 1576 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,200 Speaker 2: with a final five. So these are a fast five 1577 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,599 Speaker 2: where you have to answer each question in one word 1578 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 2: or one sentence maximum. So these are your final five. 1579 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,439 Speaker 2: The first question is what is the best advice you've 1580 01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,400 Speaker 2: ever heard or received? Believe in yourself second question, what 1581 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 2: is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? 1582 01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:59,200 Speaker 1: It can't be done. 1583 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,360 Speaker 2: Since question number three, You've mastered so many things in 1584 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,200 Speaker 2: your life. What are you currently trying to master? 1585 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,720 Speaker 1: Bring all of my talents together and the one the 1586 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:15,439 Speaker 1: show business, fitness and politics all in one and make 1587 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 1: that be my new kind of vision and drive to 1588 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,080 Speaker 1: help the world. 1589 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,920 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I'm going to scrap the final hout. What 1590 01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 2: does that look like? That's fascinating. What does that look 1591 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,320 Speaker 2: like right now in your mind? As you develop it? 1592 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:29,759 Speaker 2: You can use more than one center. 1593 01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I want to be out there and help with environmental 1594 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 1: issues because I learned about that doing my governorship. I 1595 01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 1: want to be out there and help with healthcare issues, 1596 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:46,040 Speaker 1: with aging issues, with fitness issues, with entertaining issues, and 1597 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,880 Speaker 1: because it's important and entertain people, so all of those 1598 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of things. So I have to Schwarzenegger Institute where 1599 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,519 Speaker 1: we deal with a lot of those very different issues 1600 01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 1: and policies to make it the better world. And I 1601 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: have my Environmental Conference in Vienna every year where the 1602 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:07,120 Speaker 1: world comes together. Eighty ninety countries come together and we 1603 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,160 Speaker 1: talk about the environment and how to make this a 1604 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 1: fastil feel free, world and reduce pollution so we don't 1605 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,839 Speaker 1: have seven million people die every year because of pollution. 1606 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,120 Speaker 2: Beautiful, I can't wait to see the impact you have 1607 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,040 Speaker 2: in that space. Question number four has two parts to it. 1608 01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,800 Speaker 2: What is your biggest personal success and what is your 1609 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 2: biggest personal failure? 1610 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 1: Well, I think that my biggest personal success is to 1611 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,760 Speaker 1: be able to do the things that I wanted to do, 1612 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,200 Speaker 1: that the visualize them and turn them into reality. And 1613 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,880 Speaker 1: I think my biggest failure obviously is my marriage. Think 1614 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 1: that from a personal point of view and from a 1615 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 1: professional point of view, I've had many movies going to toilet. 1616 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:56,719 Speaker 1: I've lost bodybuilding competitions and powerlifting competitions and all that stuff. 1617 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,600 Speaker 1: So I had plenty of failures. It's always important to 1618 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,200 Speaker 1: bring it up because people should know that you never 1619 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 1: will be able to go through life without failures. Failures 1620 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:11,320 Speaker 1: make us learn, Failures make you stronger. Pain makes you stronger. 1621 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,639 Speaker 1: So I think all of that is good. 1622 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's address both of those because it's so true. 1623 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,639 Speaker 2: Like on the outside, like you said, people can say, 1624 01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 2: so privileged, you met the presidents, you did this, you 1625 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,760 Speaker 2: did that, You've you know all the winds, you know 1626 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,760 Speaker 2: when I'm looking around this room like everything's iconically you know, 1627 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,840 Speaker 2: nothing's unrecognizable across the whole world. It's all recognizable. But 1628 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,360 Speaker 2: did you ever feel the pressure when things started to 1629 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,600 Speaker 2: go well of like, God, the next movie's got to 1630 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 2: be bigger, and the next movie's got to be bigger. 1631 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,599 Speaker 2: Did you feel that or did you just kind of 1632 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 2: you were just loving it so much that you just 1633 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 2: kept building and if it went wrong that it didn't 1634 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:46,240 Speaker 2: hurt you that much. 1635 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 1: You know, I never really felt that much pressure probably 1636 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,040 Speaker 1: about anything, to be honest with you, because I knew 1637 01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:01,720 Speaker 1: what I wanted and I never really fell for this 1638 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,000 Speaker 1: thing of what did the people expect me to do? 1639 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 1: So I just I create my vision and when everyone 1640 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: says it's impossible, I go after the vengeance, it's like 1641 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:16,559 Speaker 1: I go all out one and it gives me joy 1642 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,880 Speaker 1: and it is What is great about it is that 1643 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:25,360 Speaker 1: every time that you accomplish something really big, you see 1644 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,400 Speaker 1: and become aware of other things that are new challenges 1645 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 1: that you didn't even think about. Yes, I mean, did 1646 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,160 Speaker 1: I ever think about that I will fight for the environment. No, 1647 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,400 Speaker 1: But because of the governorship. You know, this is like 1648 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,920 Speaker 1: the thing I talk about in the book about Hillary 1649 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,760 Speaker 1: the Times Mount Everest and he's up there, and then 1650 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,439 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this is another pig to be climbed, right, 1651 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 1: And there's the next one. So there's the same thing. 1652 01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,719 Speaker 1: I go and win the governorship. I go in there, 1653 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,759 Speaker 1: I start working on the governorship and all the different policies, 1654 01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,479 Speaker 1: and I'm meeting all these scientists and experts and they 1655 01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,719 Speaker 1: talk about it. You know, how many people diarrhea because 1656 01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,720 Speaker 1: of pollution and we can do something about it, and 1657 01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,040 Speaker 1: that dive into that it's a new peak. Oh my god, 1658 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 1: no one has really explored that. Forget the nineteen percent 1659 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:18,080 Speaker 1: of renewables, we have to have fifty percent renewables. Forget 1660 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,559 Speaker 1: about in the reducing Quino's gases about five percent. We 1661 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,519 Speaker 1: have to reduce about twenty five percent, and we have 1662 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,679 Speaker 1: to do it by twenty twenty. And so you said 1663 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,160 Speaker 1: big goals. So this is the new peak that you're 1664 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,360 Speaker 1: climbing and you go all out for that. Then when 1665 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,599 Speaker 1: you get there, then you see another pick beyond that. 1666 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:39,240 Speaker 1: So this is what is fun and this makes my 1667 01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 1: life rich. You know that it's always something new and different. 1668 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:48,600 Speaker 1: And I tell you that I also learned when I 1669 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,600 Speaker 1: for instance, listen to you because you come from a 1670 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,280 Speaker 1: totally different world, right, so you have a different spin 1671 01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 1: on things, so that when a listener this, oh, that's 1672 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,519 Speaker 1: interesting way of looking at it. And so I think 1673 01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,559 Speaker 1: we have to learn from one another. And so I 1674 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 1: think that you and I we have a lot in 1675 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,120 Speaker 1: common anyway, because otherwise you wouldn't be sitting here right 1676 01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,080 Speaker 1: a minute to think about it. It's not just that 1677 01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:17,880 Speaker 1: I want to be having one of the most popular podcasts, 1678 01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,600 Speaker 1: but you have to be a curious son of a 1679 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:25,000 Speaker 1: bitch to go and to be really good in what 1680 01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 1: you do. And this is what I noticed about your podcast. 1681 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 1: You're really curious and natural curiosity, and I think that 1682 01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,480 Speaker 1: is you have to have it. You have to have curiosity. 1683 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,800 Speaker 1: It shows in your eyes, it shows in everything when 1684 01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 1: you ask the question and or you know, it's like 1685 01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,960 Speaker 1: when you see journalists, which I hate. You know, they 1686 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,879 Speaker 1: have like a piece of paper and say, okay, very interesting, 1687 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:53,600 Speaker 1: he says, Now let me ask you another question. You 1688 01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 1: want them said, this isn't it? And then how do 1689 01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,320 Speaker 1: you feel that they they read it off the paper 1690 01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,000 Speaker 1: and then when you answer, they don't even look at 1691 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,280 Speaker 1: you in the eyes. They look at the paper for 1692 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:09,280 Speaker 1: the next question, right, So I didn't detect any of 1693 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,040 Speaker 1: that from you. I mean, every question can without looking 1694 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 1: at anything, because you're curious, and so I think I 1695 01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 1: just wanted to. 1696 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 2: Mention, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that, and it 1697 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,719 Speaker 2: means a lot coming from you. And I am curious 1698 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,720 Speaker 2: because I grew up as a fan who didn't so 1699 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 2: that's one thing. But I think I'm even more curious 1700 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,160 Speaker 2: because you chose to write a book about being useful 1701 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,760 Speaker 2: and life lessons, and I think that that world is 1702 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,160 Speaker 2: what I gravitate towards because I think learning from the 1703 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,240 Speaker 2: greats is all we have. And I think when we 1704 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,479 Speaker 2: ignore to learn from the greats, that's when we make 1705 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,439 Speaker 2: We have to make our own mistakes for no reason. 1706 01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,760 Speaker 2: We can avoid so many. So no, I am very 1707 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,840 Speaker 2: curious about you. And I think you're also a fantastic storyteller, 1708 01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,840 Speaker 2: so that helps you get into someone's detail and so 1709 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,400 Speaker 2: many examples and everything, so it's it's brilliant. 1710 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,040 Speaker 1: I tell you, it was really fun doing this book 1711 01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 1: because I really had to kind of drilled down and 1712 01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,439 Speaker 1: think about a lot of the things that comes natural 1713 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,599 Speaker 1: for me, you know, to tell stories about because you 1714 01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 1: each one of the rules, you want to be able 1715 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,759 Speaker 1: to even the sub rules and the sub sub rules. 1716 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,560 Speaker 1: You want to be able to tie it to a 1717 01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,920 Speaker 1: story so that people can relate to. Like I was 1718 01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,040 Speaker 1: talking about infrastructure. You can talk to people about infrastructure 1719 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:21,960 Speaker 1: already want they can relate to it. But as soon 1720 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,519 Speaker 1: as you tied to getting stuck in traffic making it 1721 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,559 Speaker 1: to the recital in the school and you've come late 1722 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,400 Speaker 1: an hour because of the traffic in order, then they 1723 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,639 Speaker 1: can relate to that. In the same is with any 1724 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 1: of the rules. You know. I kind of had fun 1725 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,599 Speaker 1: doing it. It was sometimes frustrating because you want to 1726 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,240 Speaker 1: do you know, ten rules, and the publish it and says, no, 1727 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,360 Speaker 1: you can only do seven because this book can I 1728 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,080 Speaker 1: should only have two hundred and sixty eight pages other 1729 01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 1: than three hundred and fifty pages and all of this 1730 01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,120 Speaker 1: crazy stuff you go through. But it was a really, 1731 01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,000 Speaker 1: really great process and never met wildest dreams. Did I 1732 01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:00,320 Speaker 1: ever think that I would occupy this space at all, 1733 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,519 Speaker 1: And it really happened, just totally coincidentally. We're more and 1734 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,519 Speaker 1: more people, you know, when you when you finished with 1735 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 1: the governorship, I was asked to do public speaking engagements 1736 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,400 Speaker 1: like ex presidents and stuff like that. And as I'm 1737 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,760 Speaker 1: traveling around, I think one time someone said, can you 1738 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,800 Speaker 1: pump up our crowd? We have like a thousands, you know, 1739 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,479 Speaker 1: real estate people. We want you to just pump them up, 1740 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,600 Speaker 1: so you do a little bit of success story. Yeah, 1741 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,760 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden they took golf like wildfire. 1742 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 1: Every one of the public speaking engagements they've had since 1743 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,040 Speaker 1: then they want to go and have me talk about 1744 01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,960 Speaker 1: success and the rules to success and all of that stuff. 1745 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,839 Speaker 1: So it's like something I didn't even think about because 1746 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,000 Speaker 1: I always was a motivator, you know, if it's a 1747 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,040 Speaker 1: special Olympics of after school programs or do we just 1748 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 1: my buddies around in the gym. That became my training 1749 01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,880 Speaker 1: partners because I always have this kind of energy, right, 1750 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 1: come on, let's just said you can do another set. Well, 1751 01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,280 Speaker 1: you're stopping with ten reps, give me five more reps. 1752 01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,040 Speaker 1: Let it pain, Let it give pain, you know, and 1753 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,280 Speaker 1: you just pump pump up. So I have this energy. 1754 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,240 Speaker 1: So never thought that this would be used then for 1755 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:09,040 Speaker 1: seminars and eventually for a book like this. It's it's 1756 01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 1: like crazy, No fantastic takes you. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's 1757 01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,040 Speaker 1: beautiful to see it through your eyes and through your 1758 01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 1: lens and for us all to dream as well. And 1759 01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,200 Speaker 1: I have one final question for you, and actually before 1760 01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,720 Speaker 1: I ask it, when you said we have a lot 1761 01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:26,639 Speaker 1: in common, that there's so many different parallels that I'll 1762 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,880 Speaker 1: tell you later, because when I was listening to you, 1763 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,679 Speaker 1: I have a very different life, but so many similar 1764 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,679 Speaker 1: lessons I've picked up along the way, and I think 1765 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,559 Speaker 1: as humans, that's what brings us together. We may not 1766 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,680 Speaker 1: have the same life story, we don't grow up in 1767 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,080 Speaker 1: the same places, we don't have the same parents, but 1768 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,559 Speaker 1: you pick up the same messages from the world and 1769 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 1: the same lessons from the world. So the fifth and 1770 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,360 Speaker 1: final question I want to ask you is if you 1771 01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,320 Speaker 1: could create one law that everyone in the world had 1772 01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:56,960 Speaker 1: to follow, what would it be. Well, that's an interesting question. 1773 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:04,280 Speaker 1: Maybe to get fossil fuels that you have to use 1774 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:10,679 Speaker 1: alternative energy, if it is nuclear with producing energy itself, 1775 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,439 Speaker 1: if it is for cast electric or hydrogen. I just 1776 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:21,080 Speaker 1: feel like, if we have seven million people die because 1777 01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 1: of pollution, I think by having a law like that 1778 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:29,760 Speaker 1: and eventually make it stick, I think that we could 1779 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 1: save those lives, and this is like more than any 1780 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,720 Speaker 1: of the wars that they're fought and any of the 1781 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:41,479 Speaker 1: other disasters or anything like this. It's like so many 1782 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,120 Speaker 1: people die because of pollution. So I mean that's huge. 1783 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 1: One thing is I mean, you know then the Bowery. 1784 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning, I'll call you and say I have another law. 1785 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 2: Great, that's a great answer. We've never had that one though. 1786 01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,280 Speaker 2: We've never had that answer. So it's a brilliant answer. 1787 01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,519 Speaker 2: But you've been doing so much work in I feel 1788 01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,080 Speaker 2: like you've been doing so much work the plant based space, 1789 01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, with the documentaries on game changes like climate change. 1790 01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:06,880 Speaker 2: Now you're talking about like it seems like this has 1791 01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,439 Speaker 2: been like an immersion for you. 1792 01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:10,960 Speaker 1: Well you know that. We know it's crazy. Here's another 1793 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:15,520 Speaker 1: crazy one. Yeah, it's all My life is so insane. 1794 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 1: I believe it. But I mean it's like I'm working 1795 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:25,120 Speaker 1: with the sky cham Cameron. I determinated one. We become friends, 1796 01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 1: we're right the motorcycle together, we hang out together, and 1797 01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,280 Speaker 1: then it does you know, Terminator two, and it does 1798 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:36,920 Speaker 1: other movies in the Titanic and other titles. Yeah, but 1799 01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:45,559 Speaker 1: he is an environmentalist. But when we determinated, I never 1800 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,479 Speaker 1: knew that, and he never talked about it. So then 1801 01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,360 Speaker 1: I become governor, and now he goes in the system. 1802 01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,040 Speaker 1: He says, I only make it to make your way 1803 01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 1: of that. The power companies are still resisting that we've 1804 01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 1: verse metering, he said, reverse metering? What the hell are 1805 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,400 Speaker 1: you talking about? He says, way, it's the thing you know, 1806 01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:10,360 Speaker 1: when you produce energy from solar and you produce too much, 1807 01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,000 Speaker 1: you want to put it back on a grid. That's 1808 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,920 Speaker 1: reverse metering, and you get credit for it. So I 1809 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:21,880 Speaker 1: walk away, and how does Jim Cameron knows about reverse 1810 01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,800 Speaker 1: metering and about that something you know? Of course, it's 1811 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,960 Speaker 1: very clear because he's a genius, right and he just 1812 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:32,200 Speaker 1: is with technowledge and stuff like that is unbeatable. But 1813 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,679 Speaker 1: sure enough, I go into the office the next day 1814 01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:37,800 Speaker 1: in the governor's officer said, look, guys, I want to 1815 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about reverse metering. Oh, I'm so 1816 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,120 Speaker 1: glad to bring this up, because power companies are fighting 1817 01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 1: us tooth and nail. They don't want to do reverse meeting. 1818 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,519 Speaker 1: But we want to pass a law to be telling 1819 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,800 Speaker 1: the legislators to send us a bill so that you 1820 01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,200 Speaker 1: can sign it in blah blah blah. So this just 1821 01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:58,160 Speaker 1: gives you an example of what impact Jim Cameron had 1822 01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:04,439 Speaker 1: on me with issues that way beyond you know, movies 1823 01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:07,120 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Then he goes and says to me, 1824 01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,400 Speaker 1: I said to him, I said, my doctor said to me. 1825 01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 1: He says, I should get off meat and they should 1826 01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:18,799 Speaker 1: only have once a week meat. And he says, well, hello, 1827 01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,200 Speaker 1: where have you been. I mean, I've been vegan for 1828 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:26,640 Speaker 1: five years. So I said what, And this is I've 1829 01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 1: been being for five I mean any meat for five years. 1830 01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 1: You don't need me to have it. And he goes crazy. 1831 01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,400 Speaker 1: Now right, and he says some effect, we're doing a 1832 01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:38,000 Speaker 1: documentary right now and the other thing, you know, on 1833 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 1: eating plant based food. So all of a sudden, here's 1834 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,639 Speaker 1: the experts. Now I sit down with him and he's 1835 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,320 Speaker 1: telling me for hours about you know, plant based food 1836 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,040 Speaker 1: and how he can combine and create the right assets 1837 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,560 Speaker 1: to create the right protein and all reasons how he 1838 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 1: can get strong. And here's and now he lists the 1839 01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 1: name of the athletes, boxes, wrestlers, weightlifters, UFC fighters, everything 1840 01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:10,280 Speaker 1: that are on plant based food. Think about that. So 1841 01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:12,600 Speaker 1: now I got into it, and I was part of 1842 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:17,800 Speaker 1: this documentary. Right, and now I eat like maybe once 1843 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:22,000 Speaker 1: a week meat, So I would say seventy percent at least. 1844 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:26,160 Speaker 1: The cutdown my meat intake for health reasons, and it 1845 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:30,320 Speaker 1: happens to be also for environmental reasons, as he explained 1846 01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,479 Speaker 1: as the honold, what do you think where most of 1847 01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 1: the pollution comes from more than from transportation, comes from 1848 01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:41,160 Speaker 1: breeding live stock? Says, see, are you kidding me? He says, no, 1849 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:43,719 Speaker 1: read up on it. He says, I send you some stuff, 1850 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,080 Speaker 1: so I'm reading up on it. Sure enough, twenty eight 1851 01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:49,559 Speaker 1: percent of the pollution comes from breeding livestock. So he says, 1852 01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 1: if people wouldn't need meat, this is and wouldn't have 1853 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,040 Speaker 1: the animals being kind of like the WHRSE cell, kind 1854 01:44:56,040 --> 01:45:00,320 Speaker 1: of like the vegetable protein goes into the animal, then 1855 01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,639 Speaker 1: they eat it in the chase. Then you eat the animal. 1856 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,880 Speaker 1: You still get the the you know, the plant based food, 1857 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:09,240 Speaker 1: but through the animal. Now it's it's bullshit. We can 1858 01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,280 Speaker 1: do better than that. Let's cut out the meat. It's 1859 01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:17,200 Speaker 1: just amazing how I get exposed to various different things 1860 01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 1: in my life and make me passionate about ways that 1861 01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't even ever have planned. You know, those kind 1862 01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,400 Speaker 1: of relationships and this kind of knowledge you could never 1863 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:29,880 Speaker 1: plan on. 1864 01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and do you also have a meditation practice? 1865 01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,320 Speaker 1: Is that right? I used to in the seventies. There 1866 01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,960 Speaker 1: was a time when I got out of bodybuilding and 1867 01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,920 Speaker 1: into show business and it was all kinds of things 1868 01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 1: happening in the mid seventies. So I was doing the 1869 01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:49,919 Speaker 1: last year of competition in nineteen seventy five in South Africa, 1870 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,760 Speaker 1: missed Olympia, so I was training for that. I was 1871 01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:57,360 Speaker 1: finishing off my movie Stay Hungry with Barb Breaferston and 1872 01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,720 Speaker 1: Salid Fields and Cheff Bridges. You know they're doing that. 1873 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,880 Speaker 1: And I was at the same time going full plast 1874 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,559 Speaker 1: in the show business, taking acting classes and investing my 1875 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,840 Speaker 1: money in real estate. So I was no matter which 1876 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,120 Speaker 1: way I was turning, I was like scrambling, and at 1877 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:20,080 Speaker 1: that point I did not know much about how to 1878 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 1: isolate and just concentrate on one thing at the time. 1879 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:28,640 Speaker 1: So I'm hanging out with this guy, this skinny rat 1880 01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:36,280 Speaker 1: down on the beach. Here's a transcendental meditation teacher. But 1881 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:40,040 Speaker 1: they never talked about it. So I said, I feel frantic. 1882 01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like everything is a little bit overwhelming 1883 01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,720 Speaker 1: for me. I'm doing this movie. I'm shooting the documentary, 1884 01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:49,479 Speaker 1: pumping on, I'm going to the competition, I'm finishing off 1885 01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,200 Speaker 1: Stay Hungry. I'm trying to the real estate and become 1886 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:56,120 Speaker 1: a millionaire. I'm all over the recess. And let me 1887 01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:59,160 Speaker 1: talk to you a little bit, very calmly talks to 1888 01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,600 Speaker 1: me about it, and he says, when they come up 1889 01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:06,360 Speaker 1: to Westward and take some transcendental meditation, he says, I 1890 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 1: cannot be a teacher, even though I'm a teacher. I said, 1891 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,880 Speaker 1: your teacher trans Then yeah, he said, but I cannot 1892 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,559 Speaker 1: be your teacher's our rules in your friendship and stuff 1893 01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,160 Speaker 1: if there's someone else's. But don't worry, I said, yeah, 1894 01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,760 Speaker 1: with the right guy. So I go up there and 1895 01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:24,599 Speaker 1: I did the I learned now about meditation, And as 1896 01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,840 Speaker 1: I got into it, I was then doing meditation like 1897 01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:32,599 Speaker 1: for months throughout the summer, that hectic summer. I mean 1898 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:37,760 Speaker 1: the summer was over, it wasn't a hectic anymore. So 1899 01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,760 Speaker 1: what I learned from meditation was, you know, how to 1900 01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of like first of all, rejuvenate the mind and 1901 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,640 Speaker 1: to kind of disconnect the mind. But also what I 1902 01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,759 Speaker 1: learned was how to focus on one thing at the time, 1903 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:55,360 Speaker 1: and to just look at that with no peripheral vision 1904 01:47:56,439 --> 01:48:03,400 Speaker 1: so that nothing comes in. Solve this and then don't 1905 01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 1: think about anything else, and then go over here and 1906 01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 1: solve this and then south. Just because he said, you 1907 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:14,639 Speaker 1: can never do of it in one time anyway, and 1908 01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:18,040 Speaker 1: as soon as you single out things, it becomes much 1909 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:23,600 Speaker 1: more approachable and much more doable. He said to me, 1910 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,599 Speaker 1: I remember, he said, when you drive down and nice 1911 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:32,400 Speaker 1: what walk with your bike, he says, you will look 1912 01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,280 Speaker 1: sometimes on this busy day and it will be all packed. 1913 01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:40,599 Speaker 1: He says, it would look like you would not be 1914 01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:44,280 Speaker 1: able to go through this crowd because you're looking at 1915 01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:48,439 Speaker 1: the whole shot, the whole what walk all the way 1916 01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:53,080 Speaker 1: down a mile venice, So it's overwhelming, he says. But 1917 01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:57,720 Speaker 1: if you go not with your bike slowly, you negotiate 1918 01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,360 Speaker 1: around the people and all of a sudden you find 1919 01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,519 Speaker 1: spaces where you can go. We don't bump into anybody, 1920 01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,360 Speaker 1: and always says, you always said you're on the end 1921 01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,320 Speaker 1: of it, And it was totally doable because he took 1922 01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,240 Speaker 1: like one person at the time, kind of like by 1923 01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,240 Speaker 1: sicing around, he says, And that's the way with everything. 1924 01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,680 Speaker 1: He says, if you just look at it one thing 1925 01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:21,120 Speaker 1: at the time, you'll be able to solve any problem. 1926 01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:24,000 Speaker 1: And that's why it says, you see people like the 1927 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:30,839 Speaker 1: Pope that has obviously his daily routine, the big daily routine. 1928 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,640 Speaker 1: But those guys, they get up at five o'clock in 1929 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,559 Speaker 1: the morning, they work out for an hour and a half, 1930 01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:40,720 Speaker 1: very calmly, get that out of the way. Then they 1931 01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:44,880 Speaker 1: read newspapers like Pope Jump Paul. I remember he told 1932 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,000 Speaker 1: me that he read newspapers in six different languages. So 1933 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,479 Speaker 1: they read the newspapers, then they get that done. Then 1934 01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,519 Speaker 1: they go and take a shower, and then they go 1935 01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:56,680 Speaker 1: and have the first meeting. So this is how they 1936 01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:00,960 Speaker 1: step best step they approach the day, and says the 1937 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,160 Speaker 1: people that get done the most, you can load them 1938 01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:08,400 Speaker 1: up with even more responsibilities because they're very organized and 1939 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,760 Speaker 1: very systematic in their approach. And so I've learned that. 1940 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,160 Speaker 1: So now I've never really been that friendic again, but 1941 01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,439 Speaker 1: if it would become friendic, I would go right back 1942 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,360 Speaker 1: into the meditation because I know now how to do it. 1943 01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,519 Speaker 2: That's fantastic, Honold everyone who has been listening or watching 1944 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:28,160 Speaker 2: the book is called be useful. Seven tools for life. 1945 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:30,360 Speaker 2: You can grab it right now. We're going to put 1946 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,120 Speaker 2: the link in the comments and the captions that you 1947 01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 2: can order it right away. As you can tell, Arnold's 1948 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 2: a phenomenal storyteller. Inside of it a lessons stories. And 1949 01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:40,280 Speaker 2: one of the things I definitely have in common with 1950 01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,920 Speaker 2: Donold that I appreciate about him is how simple the 1951 01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:46,680 Speaker 2: idea is, how easy they are to digest. They're not complicated, 1952 01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:48,720 Speaker 2: and you know, you don't have to learn something new. 1953 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,799 Speaker 2: You can actually just sit there, take them in, listen, 1954 01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,000 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you start going, wait a minute, 1955 01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,559 Speaker 2: maybe it is that easy. Maybe it is that simple, 1956 01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 2: and I think that's something that we desperately need in 1957 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,040 Speaker 2: today's world. So Arnold, I thank you for putting all 1958 01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:02,760 Speaker 2: your lessons into a book for us, and thank you 1959 01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,320 Speaker 2: for telling so many amazing stories. 1960 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:10,679 Speaker 1: And I signed seventeen thousand copies. Wow pages paye because 1961 01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:13,519 Speaker 1: now they sent you the pages, you know, so I'm 1962 01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,240 Speaker 1: getting the boxes with pages. Each box was a thousand pages, 1963 01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,439 Speaker 1: and I said them, alf, wait a minute, now you 1964 01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,360 Speaker 1: know it first was like fourteen thousands for the American Company, 1965 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 1: and then there was another three and a half thousand 1966 01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:28,519 Speaker 1: of four thousands for them they're going to be in bookstores. Yes. 1967 01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:32,519 Speaker 1: What what they do is I think that the first 1968 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,040 Speaker 1: of the books all signed. Yes, so now people will 1969 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,599 Speaker 1: be in the order pre order, they will wear signed books. 1970 01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:41,960 Speaker 1: I think that was the idea so in the old days, 1971 01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:43,920 Speaker 1: that you would go to the bookstore and you will 1972 01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,479 Speaker 1: sign all the books yourself, and then you sit there 1973 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:49,240 Speaker 1: for hours and hours and after an hour signed one 1974 01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,320 Speaker 1: hundred books, right because you have to open up the 1975 01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:54,120 Speaker 1: book and it's always slow. Now is these pages? So 1976 01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,280 Speaker 1: I was just like signing, signing, signing. I was for 1977 01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:02,120 Speaker 1: three months. I was signing and signing and signing. H 1978 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean think about it, I mean seventeen thousands. 1979 01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can relate. 1980 01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:08,479 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 1981 01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 1982 01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:12,400 Speaker 1: I never thought that many cigreass. 1983 01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,400 Speaker 2: I love it. Well, it's available. 1984 01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:14,599 Speaker 1: Now. 1985 01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:16,920 Speaker 2: Make sure you tag me and Arnold on any social 1986 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:20,439 Speaker 2: media platforms you're using, whether it's TikTok, Instagram, x or 1987 01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,080 Speaker 2: wherever you are. I'd love to see what resonated with you, 1988 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,840 Speaker 2: what's stuck with you? Keep sharing those posts across social 1989 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,599 Speaker 2: media because I love seeing what is going to stay 1990 01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 2: with you, what you're going to practice, what are you 1991 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,200 Speaker 2: going to try? What are you going to implement in 1992 01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:36,480 Speaker 2: your life from this episode that will help you become happier, healthier, 1993 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,320 Speaker 2: or more healed. Thank you again, Arnold, thank you, thank you. 1994 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,240 Speaker 2: If you love this episode, you love my interview with 1995 01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,920 Speaker 2: Will Smith on owning your truth and unlocking the power 1996 01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:46,840 Speaker 2: of manifestation. 1997 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:50,880 Speaker 1: Anybody who hasn't spoken to their parents or their brother, 1998 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:55,320 Speaker 1: haul them right now. Don't think you're going to have 1999 01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,800 Speaker 1: a chance to call them tomorrow or next week. 2000 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:03,559 Speaker 2: That opportunity with my father change every relationship in my life.