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Speaker 3: Alright, alright, alright, did no man dart?
Speaker 4: Your greetings. Welcome to a Monday edition of The Shotgun Start.
Speaker 4: It is July twentieth, Andy, how we doing.
Speaker 3: Brendan, It's victory Monday. What a great day. It is
Speaker 3: a reel. You know, oftentimes you wonder, but there's no
Speaker 3: doubt about it. A real proper player won this year's
Speaker 3: Open Championship, Ryan Fox. Congratulations to one of the best
Speaker 3: guys in golf.
Speaker 4: Proper Player explanned on that why a proper player he's been?
Speaker 4: He's been easy to root for for a while, he's
Speaker 4: been a fan, a podcast favorite for a while. Got
Speaker 4: to know him slightly a little bit, wouldn't say, you know,
Speaker 4: you know extremely well, but he's a good person. But
Speaker 4: why do we like his golf? For me, it's always
Speaker 4: been he's like the last world player, right when everyone
Speaker 4: kind of became these monoliths and we go to the
Speaker 4: PGA Tour and we make our money on the PGA
Speaker 4: Tour and we play. The guy has stuck to and
Speaker 4: now he's also had to adapt and do more. PGA
Speaker 4: Tour golf plays a global tour. It's not quite Ernie
Speaker 4: L's in two thousand and two or whatever or late nineties,
Speaker 4: but being from New Zealand and kind of paying homage
Speaker 4: to some of those locales and then being a deep
Speaker 4: world tour player deep into his thirties. You talked about
Speaker 4: I was a rookie on the PGA Tour at thirty
Speaker 4: seven DP World to a rookie at thirty or whatever
Speaker 4: it was. He's been all around the world, and it
Speaker 4: just feels like a guy from a from a past
Speaker 4: that doesn't exist anymore, of having to play everywhere because
Speaker 4: that's what he wants to do or feels like he
Speaker 4: needs to do as a global golfer, and he wanted
Speaker 4: a different Definitely the global, most global major in the
Speaker 4: world's major and unique major today.
Speaker 3: So that's probably some proper golf. Yeah, true sportsman. You know,
Speaker 3: obviously it got beat over his head. But son of
Speaker 3: an All Black Grand grant, his mom was a great
Speaker 3: cricket player too, and father great grand or his grandfather
Speaker 3: was an amazing like cricket player for New Zealand grandpa
Speaker 3: or father of rugby player yep, didn't start playing golf,
Speaker 3: like really even thinking about playing golf competitively till eighteen.
Speaker 3: That's amazing you he started. We first played at thirteen,
Speaker 3: liked it and was missing like competition, So that's what
Speaker 3: spurred him into golf. And then you know, I think
Speaker 3: just like the pace of play. Obviously, his route to
Speaker 3: the to the top of the world is very different
Speaker 3: than most people. He's just not the cookie cutter PGA
Speaker 3: tour out of the box player named Davis. You know
Speaker 3: that wasn't meant to be a David shot at mission.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 3: You know, he just is. And he's genuinely like a
Speaker 3: wonderful guy, like a guy that you love me, you know,
Speaker 3: having had a beer with him. He's just one of
Speaker 3: the few people on tour, like not few, but you know,
Speaker 3: probably a couple of dozen people on tour that you
Speaker 3: could just sit at a bar and listen to stories
Speaker 3: all day from so wonderful guy and really fun to
Speaker 3: watch someone get it done that unexpectedly. And I think
Speaker 3: we've had two majors this year where you enter the
Speaker 3: back nine and it's really like anybody's game. And both
Speaker 3: times we've had players that, you know, I think the
Speaker 3: betting public or the general public wouldn't have expected to
Speaker 3: rise to the occasion and win the tournament. Aaron Rye
Speaker 3: did it in fat fashion at Irono Mink really just
Speaker 3: taking the championship by the horns. And Ryan Fox did
Speaker 3: it despite a couple of bad breaks. He just hit
Speaker 3: wonderful shot after one.
Speaker 4: He's a friendly guy who could have a beer with
Speaker 4: in a bar. Now you're worried about bad breaks. Now
Speaker 4: you're policing fair policing. You're calling out bad breaks for
Speaker 4: guys that you could have a beer with, are you feel?
Speaker 3: But he persevered, like you see some people throw a
Speaker 3: hissy fit after what happened to him on fifteen. You know,
Speaker 3: the t shot on seventeen was was a tough situation.
Speaker 3: You know, you wouldn't expect an iron to roll out
Speaker 3: that far, but it did. You know, He's played to
Speaker 3: play it short and it's like, you know, basically one
Speaker 3: revolution from stopping in the perfect spot and making it
Speaker 3: a shoe and birdie, and you know, I I just
Speaker 3: think it was it was an awesome, awesome championship, really fun.
Speaker 3: All in all, there's tons of chaos, tons, a couple
Speaker 3: of rules controversies and and that just adds up to
Speaker 3: you all.
Speaker 4: It's a clean drop, totally clean drop, properly applied. We're
Speaker 4: going to get the Scottie, which I'm sure you're wound
Speaker 4: up about.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: I didn mean to cut you off. Go ahead, finish,
Speaker 4: great championship.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you love love a late bloomer. Late bloomers
Speaker 3: or sometimes the best stories. Thirty nine years old wins
Speaker 3: his first major championship, and you know a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago, you know, he he got completely shadow band
Speaker 3: by the PGA Tour from the President's Cup team when
Speaker 3: he should have been ranked in the top thirty. I
Speaker 3: think that was for the uh, that was for the
Speaker 3: Royal Melbourne one.
Speaker 4: Well, he's always been sort of caught between tours, like you.
Speaker 3: Listen to tour, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Which is kind of a feels like a hole in
Speaker 4: the President's Cup if an international player who you know
Speaker 4: is not enough of your kind of tour member, kind
Speaker 4: of a hole seems like a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's funny. I played a round
Speaker 3: of golf with him, in at in La And the
Speaker 3: reason I was played a round of golf with him
Speaker 3: was because he was sitting in La waiting hopefully getting
Speaker 3: into Riviera as the thirty third rank player in the world,
Speaker 3: and he didn't get into Riviera, so he was playing
Speaker 3: golf with a with a bum podcaster.
Speaker 4: Remember that it was a great I thought this was
Speaker 4: a great championship. I thought this was a really fun open.
Speaker 4: I felt like today, you know, sometimes I feel like
Speaker 4: this is kind of a slog or drudgery, or it's
Speaker 4: always like a privilege to be out there. And I
Speaker 4: spoke of that when I walked in for the first
Speaker 4: time at the start of the week, of like how
Speaker 4: special it feels to just as an American to get
Speaker 4: over here to this open that can feel at times
Speaker 4: unattainable and far, and so like your privilege to be
Speaker 4: here from the beginning, and at no point to day
Speaker 4: that I feel like there's enough juice. We don't have
Speaker 4: enough going on, we don't have like it's a little slow.
Speaker 4: I think there was some at the start concern about
Speaker 4: like who might win and how they might win, would
Speaker 4: it be boring, would there be some duds on the leaderboard?
Speaker 4: I thought between the Bryson stuff Scotty today, the manic
Speaker 4: pace on the leaderboard, and it wasn't paced by Bertie
Speaker 4: shooting ahead with Bertie's for I thought a good chunk
Speaker 4: of the afternoon, it seemed like Camyon was gonna win
Speaker 4: by just being in the clubhouse at nine under and
Speaker 4: nobody was going to really have He's gonna do press,
Speaker 4: two press conferences. He did his post route and then
Speaker 4: he was gonna have a winner's press conference two and
Speaker 4: a half hours later. I thought, Birkdale, you know, just
Speaker 4: for for We'll get to some of the changes and
Speaker 4: comments about those, but I thought Birkdale, just conditions wise,
Speaker 4: it was beautiful the whole week. It was baked out,
Speaker 4: it was sunny, you know, required a certain amount of skill,
Speaker 4: and definitely today as the wind picked up a little bit. Overall,
Speaker 4: I thought it was a fabulous Open championship. I don't
Speaker 4: know if it was like the best ever, but if
Speaker 4: you're giving a pass fail, it's passing with flying colors.
Speaker 4: And for the content game like that we're in and
Speaker 4: just amusement and entertainment, it was pushing upwards of like
Speaker 4: a B plus or an A minus, like a really
Speaker 4: fun Open Championship for all that was baked into.
Speaker 3: The stew totally agree, and I think it was fun
Speaker 3: that we got a little win today and that the
Speaker 3: kind of dynamic of the tournament changed, you know, where
Speaker 3: it became really tough. And you know, the first three
Speaker 3: days it was like who's going to go out there
Speaker 3: and get it? Who's going to go out and shoot
Speaker 3: the sixty two, who's going to shoot the sixty five,
Speaker 3: who's going to shoot those loads? Numbers and up up
Speaker 3: the board. And today, outside of Cameron Young, really nobody
Speaker 3: put together a really great round and it was more
Speaker 3: hang on for dear life. And you saw that with
Speaker 3: all the guys that when they made the turn and
Speaker 3: you know, Cameron Young, he posts nine and it felt
Speaker 3: man if he if he would have gotten to ten
Speaker 3: when he by that time, you were like, oh you
Speaker 3: and he even said it, I would like to be
Speaker 3: even a couple more than ten. At that point it
Speaker 3: felt like, you know, eleven or twelve was going to
Speaker 3: get it done. But you know, it just it just proved.
Speaker 3: You know, I think it it would have been really
Speaker 3: you know, I think you got a little bit more
Speaker 3: win today than you had the last few days. But
Speaker 3: It just shows what that golf course would have played
Speaker 3: like with the with the conditions it was in, with
Speaker 3: how firm and how fast it was. If they had
Speaker 3: had that that traditional Open Championship win all week, it
Speaker 3: would have been a very, very very high scoring week.
Speaker 4: It was. It was a great I thought it was
Speaker 4: a great venue. I thought it set up great for
Speaker 4: what they wanted. Now back to Ryan Fox. Overall, very
Speaker 4: positive feelings coming out of this Open Championship. Back to
Speaker 4: Ryan Fox. That you might not be as familiar with
Speaker 4: him as you are with some young star a Cameron
Speaker 4: Young to Ludwig, maybe Sam Burns. If you're an American, he's
Speaker 4: easy to root for. I think if you watch this dude,
Speaker 4: he he did not shrivel up and shrink. I loved
Speaker 4: hearing him talk about, you know, I'm on the eighteenth
Speaker 4: toll and I talked to my caddie Dean, and He's like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go and get it, like hard asshole. The
Speaker 4: birdie in the last three he didn't Bertie, not Birdie seventeen,
Speaker 4: but sixteen and eighteen to be the two is kind
Speaker 4: of the reverse of what you would expect, right and
Speaker 4: to win it. We saw Cameron Young, you just talked
Speaker 4: about getting he almost hold out for bunker, hold out
Speaker 4: from the bunker to stay at ten for a part,
Speaker 4: a lot of bogies, only five birdies before fox. He
Speaker 4: came through at eighteen. He said, we're going to take
Speaker 4: this on. I'm going to try and win the tournament,
Speaker 4: and I will live with the consequences if I stuffed
Speaker 4: it up. To go out there and execute the drive
Speaker 4: is not comfortable, and to hit it in the fairway
Speaker 4: and give myself a chance was huge. He said. They
Speaker 4: got to twelve and he's like, well, we got to
Speaker 4: get three more. And this was as it was getting
Speaker 4: windier and a little more challenging, and the dunes on
Speaker 4: those that more elevated back there, dipping between the dunes.
Speaker 4: And he didn't get just three, he got four. He
Speaker 4: got four birdies and like a bogey quote save. He
Speaker 4: talked about how that might have been more important than
Speaker 4: any of the birdies, is how which he said he
Speaker 4: felt better walking off there with the bogey that he made.
Speaker 4: Then maybe if he had walked off there with a
Speaker 4: par which is kind of like you would be like
Speaker 4: on paper, one shot better. So, but in terms of vibes,
Speaker 4: and juice saving that bogie after he gets a little
Speaker 4: bit jammed in the bunker. But he said he was
Speaker 4: short by a yard missed it. You know, it was
Speaker 4: a good shot. It wasn't like he just hit a
Speaker 4: poofy or shanky shot. He had a great shot. He
Speaker 4: missed by a yard and then he save saves the
Speaker 4: bogie coming out backwards. I just can't. I mean, if
Speaker 4: you love golf and sports, you have to be fired up.
Speaker 4: Four birdies in the last six to seven holes.
Speaker 3: I think if you look at his last you know,
Speaker 3: we'll just say four holes fifteen. I mean you could
Speaker 3: go back, though, you could go back to fourteen or thirteen,
Speaker 3: wherever you want, you go back all the way to thirteen.
Speaker 3: I don't think he missed a shot like he I
Speaker 3: think he hit every shot exactly how he wanted to
Speaker 3: hit it. That shot on fifteen where he made a bogie.
Speaker 3: In order to hit that green, you had to take
Speaker 3: on like all the risk, which he did, and he
Speaker 3: came up literally probably a foot two feet. If he
Speaker 3: carries the ball two feet further, he's got like a
Speaker 3: dead red birdie. Look, you know, and that could have
Speaker 3: just been a misjudge. The shot on seventeen that yielded
Speaker 3: a par instead of a birdie was because his two
Speaker 3: iron or three iron, whatever long iron it was rolled
Speaker 3: an insane amount, like an unfathomable distance and just barely
Speaker 3: trickled into the bunker he was trying to avoid by
Speaker 3: hitting the long iron, like the guy hit every shot
Speaker 3: out of the center. And I think, like to your point,
Speaker 3: the resilience, the kind of the ability to accept the
Speaker 3: bad breaks and go hit great golf shots was a
Speaker 3: was a just a championship moment, and I think that's
Speaker 3: where he kind of won everybody over, is you know
Speaker 3: he had he gets this terrible break on fifteen, and
Speaker 3: how many times have we seen people just ruined by
Speaker 3: this and you make a double bogie there and you
Speaker 3: shut yourself out of the tournament. But that up and
Speaker 3: down was awesome after he just you know had to
Speaker 3: chip out, you know, getting up and down there the
Speaker 3: putts he hold and uh yeah, I I you know,
Speaker 3: you love when people go out in moments and make
Speaker 3: you know, big time players make big time plays. He
Speaker 3: went out and won the tournament, and it's from somebody
Speaker 3: that people probably didn't expect it. But he's now he's
Speaker 3: won like twenty times across the world. He's thirty nine
Speaker 3: years old. He didn't really start playing professionally until his
Speaker 3: mid twenties. The guy, the guy has done it everywhere
Speaker 3: he's gone and it takes a little while to get there,
Speaker 3: to get comfortable. But now we've seen this is his
Speaker 3: third win in the last two years.
Speaker 4: Contains multitudes. I mean he's won a dun Hill on
Speaker 4: the Links course, He's won the Myrtle Beach Classic. Now
Speaker 4: he's won the Open Championship, joins Lydia Cooe, Bob Charles,
Speaker 4: Open and the Open. In the Open, Michael Campbell, Lydia
Speaker 4: Coe and Bob Charles is a ki kiwi New Zealand
Speaker 4: major winners. I think you know what he did make
Speaker 4: the birdie on seventeen. I was like, well, let's just
Speaker 4: hold on to your butts. It's like playoff at best,
Speaker 4: loss at worst. And what you're talking about the resiliency
Speaker 4: there of like not getting the birdie that feels like
Speaker 4: the best birdie, chance of maybe getting jammed off the
Speaker 4: tee to were about with a T shot. They were
Speaker 4: like debating, what's he going to hit? Is he just
Speaker 4: going to hit like a low sort of driving iron
Speaker 4: and he goes for it all and he said he
Speaker 4: had a great yardage on approach and stuck it to
Speaker 4: ten feet And then I don't know, a birdie to
Speaker 4: win the Open in that arena is as good as
Speaker 4: it gets. And I think one thing. I think sort
Speaker 4: of with Aaron Rye. And I'm pretty sure Aaron Riyce
Speaker 4: is definitely younger than Ryan Fox, I believe, but you know,
Speaker 4: there are major winners who there's probably guys that expect
Speaker 4: to win majors, right, and maybe they win them young
Speaker 4: and like, well, yeah, this is sort of the progression
Speaker 4: and this is my destiny and this is like and
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it means less at all,
Speaker 4: but there is sort of a sort of acceptance of
Speaker 4: like this is what I should be doing. I think
Speaker 4: with like Fox and Aaron ry like we you see
Speaker 4: that he's won all over the world, like you said,
Speaker 4: but he's also like, look, I just needed to tour
Speaker 4: to play off. It's a little different when he first
Speaker 4: came out, like I almost quit. I thought about giving
Speaker 4: up golf. On my second year on the Offsseie Tour,
Speaker 4: I kept missing the cuts and my dad came and
Speaker 4: caddied for me. I think it was Joss Open, one
Speaker 4: of those in RPGA. So is this game is supposed
Speaker 4: to be fun. It's like it's supposed to be but
Speaker 4: it's not. And you're talking about someone who's been through
Speaker 4: like ups and downs, who quite frankly he said until
Speaker 4: till like this week, he was just talking with this
Speaker 4: team on Saturday night. Like when I turned pro, if
Speaker 4: you told me this was my career, I would have
Speaker 4: taken it in like a second a heartbeat. Now, of
Speaker 4: course I'll take the one I have with the major.
Speaker 4: Oh no, there's something just a little more gratifying sees
Speaker 4: someone who I don't want to say it means more
Speaker 4: to them, but it certainly resonates and has a little
Speaker 4: bit carries a little bit more power than so, like
Speaker 4: I don't want to throw a name out there that
Speaker 4: will just feel like I'm denigrating their major, but call
Speaker 4: it like Justin Thomas winning like that's like he expects,
Speaker 4: that's like his progression and it means a ton to him.
Speaker 4: But I think like that that's just a mini takeaway
Speaker 4: I'll have from someone like Ryan Fox and Aaron Rye
Speaker 4: winning majors this year.
Speaker 3: I mean to echo that, so when I played golf
Speaker 3: with them, and so it was twenty twenty four, it's February.
Speaker 3: He's at this point, you know, top forty player in
Speaker 3: the world, but he's playing off of so he was
Speaker 3: he had gotten screwed over by Adrian Marunk, who had
Speaker 3: earned the number one spot as on the DP Tour list,
Speaker 3: and because of when he went to live he didn't
Speaker 3: get knocked off it. So Fox was the number two
Speaker 3: guy on the on that list, but like, if you
Speaker 3: were number one, you got a lot more benefits than
Speaker 3: if you were number two. But the tour didn't reshuffle
Speaker 3: it up, right, So this is like the thirty fifth
Speaker 3: ranked player in the world. And I'm like, and he
Speaker 3: had just had I think he had just had his
Speaker 3: first kid, and we're talking and I'm like, so, what's
Speaker 3: what's the plan. He's like, you know, my wife and
Speaker 3: kid have just been traveling with me and we're gonna
Speaker 3: get where. This was before the Florida Swing. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'm excited to get to Florida because we have just
Speaker 3: this like airbnb rental house that I booked and we're
Speaker 3: going to live out of that for like the next
Speaker 3: you know, couple months. And and you think about this
Speaker 3: is this is one of the fifty best players in
Speaker 3: the world at that time, and he's just his whole
Speaker 3: future in life is in flux as to whether, like
Speaker 3: he doesn't know where he's going to play, he doesn't
Speaker 3: know where he's going to live, and you know, and
Speaker 3: at that time, like he did not have a good
Speaker 3: start to his US Pro career. You know, he really
Speaker 3: didn't have a very good start until last year when
Speaker 3: he won them. I mean, he was playing the Myrtle
Speaker 3: Beach you know, opposite field event last year he won that,
Speaker 3: and then he wins in Canada and it kind of
Speaker 3: reasserts him as this, you know, player that gets into
Speaker 3: all the top tier events. But you think about this
Speaker 3: whole journey and this is this is a guy that's
Speaker 3: in his mid thirties who's in the top fifty in
Speaker 3: the world. But his entire future and like understanding of
Speaker 3: where life was in a moment where you want to have,
Speaker 3: you know, like a solid structure of life with a
Speaker 3: young kid, is completely in flux. And I think that's
Speaker 3: like kind of the the and flows of his particular
Speaker 3: career that is fascinating to be is that you know,
Speaker 3: he go. Every time he goes to a new tour,
Speaker 3: there's like a dip and then a rise back up,
Speaker 3: and you know, he's he's just a competitor. And I
Speaker 3: think that I think you saw a lot of guys
Speaker 3: fade in the moment and when you you know, if
Speaker 3: you go watch the clip I posted from when I
Speaker 3: had him on the on the Fried Egg pod earlier,
Speaker 3: what he said he turned to golf because he missed competition.
Speaker 3: He was missing competing. And if I said one like
Speaker 3: the one quality he hits it far, he hits it good,
Speaker 3: he puts it good, he's he's got a you know,
Speaker 3: serviceable short game. The number one quality that came out
Speaker 3: on the back line to day was he was he
Speaker 3: competed harder than I think almost everybody else on that board.
Speaker 4: Through bad breaks, through when through Yeah, it just played
Speaker 4: his nuts off when it mattered and then when it
Speaker 4: a place where a lot of players were not doing so.
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting with his lineage obviously like
Speaker 4: he's a late bloomer on golf or an atypical path
Speaker 4: to golf, but like, can we not make a mistake
Speaker 4: about this that he comes from like insane athletic stock
Speaker 4: so like, you know, it's not like.
Speaker 3: Exactly well he was.
Speaker 4: He had like he was working with like a lot,
Speaker 4: like a lot of full deck to begin with. It's
Speaker 4: not no matter when he took up golf. Like, he
Speaker 4: also has a very unique genes that he was working
Speaker 4: with that not everybody can just say, you know, take
Speaker 4: it up when you're seventeen.
Speaker 3: I've been told by numerous people he always downplaced his
Speaker 3: dad in New Zealand. His dad is like a god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought he had some cool quotes
Speaker 4: about like, look, I think he might have had concussion issues.
Speaker 4: Is that like he was like targeted for being you know,
Speaker 4: this legends kid right in rugby and contact sports, And uh,
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting that he's like, there was
Speaker 4: never any pressure on me. There was no pressure for
Speaker 4: my parents to be like, you know, essentially Bronni of rugby.
Speaker 4: I don't know that Lebron put that on Bronni. I
Speaker 4: don't want to go there. And Lebron's perfect human being
Speaker 4: in my.
Speaker 3: World, but Cleveland cav it sounds like, uh yeah, but
Speaker 3: I about Luca out there from out out of the
Speaker 3: Lebron shadow out there watching golfing.
Speaker 4: That was kind of random. It was weird. Why is
Speaker 4: he personal?
Speaker 3: Talking about that? Yesterday?
Speaker 4: Some some chap with the accent. I could not understand
Speaker 4: it all kept asking me if he was out there
Speaker 4: today Luca do I was who what Luke I was?
Speaker 4: And finally he's like the NBA player And I was like, no, no,
Speaker 4: I don't think he's back for a second day. Anyways,
Speaker 4: you just said he had no pressure of his parents
Speaker 4: to be like I have to do rugby because my
Speaker 4: dad is a rugby or my my grandfather was a cricketer.
Speaker 4: I need to be a cricketer. And that's kind of
Speaker 4: the ideal way to grow up. And he obviously had
Speaker 4: incredible genes. He was working with a couple more foxy
Speaker 4: clean up things. He obviously picked up strokes on every
Speaker 4: single shot on eighteen, which is amazing, like a good
Speaker 4: chunk of strokes. He said his nerves, his hands were shaking,
Speaker 4: talking about competitor who's also feeling it, like his pant
Speaker 4: legs in the wind. See my pant legs flap. That's
Speaker 4: how my hands were. I think he said that on Sky.
Speaker 4: So he's recovery at fifteen one, I'm the championship. He
Speaker 4: talked about the one thing with his dad. He's like,
Speaker 4: my dad is awful when he's not in control, like
Speaker 4: when he's not the person on the athletic field, Like
Speaker 4: he's a disaster, like a mess. So I'm sure he
Speaker 4: was a mess because he's when he can't have control.
Speaker 4: I'm like that. I mean, obviously we probably all are
Speaker 4: right we're watching our kids and playing.
Speaker 3: I noticed this with caddying. If I like Caddie for
Speaker 3: a friend in an amateur event, I'm more nervous than
Speaker 3: I if I'm playing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had some good stuff about links
Speaker 4: golf too, because he'd won the dun Hill just like
Speaker 4: hitting improper shots, What did you think was his Like,
Speaker 4: best shot was the birdie on sixteen, nodding up on
Speaker 4: sixteen after the fifty.
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard, it's hard to say what the
Speaker 3: best shot was. I think you could make a real
Speaker 3: real case for the chip on fifteen, the chip shot
Speaker 3: on fifteen, or the chip shot on fourteen. I mean
Speaker 3: the chip shot on fifteen so hard because like your
Speaker 3: world's spinning. You know, after you get the bad break,
Speaker 3: you've worked your ass off, worked your ass off to
Speaker 3: get into the lead, you know, and you know at
Speaker 3: that point that you're giving it away and you're going
Speaker 3: to have to work your ass off again to get
Speaker 3: back there. And for him, I think that chip had
Speaker 3: all he had, all the green in the world to
Speaker 3: work with. But it's such an easy chip to leave
Speaker 3: fifteen feet short and to be able to hit that
Speaker 3: to where it was easy, easy up and in. And
Speaker 3: then I think the other shot that I mean, there's
Speaker 3: a couple of shots. I mean, the the shots that
Speaker 3: stayed out to be are the second shot I'm seventeen,
Speaker 3: that would that would have been like a really easy
Speaker 3: place to hit a really bad shot, like a really
Speaker 3: bad shot just because of how awkward that was. And
Speaker 3: then the shot on eighteen. I thought, that's a lot
Speaker 3: of shots. Yeah, I mean, there's so many. That's what
Speaker 3: I said, though at the beginning is from thirteen on.
Speaker 3: He didn't really miss.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't see where his second shot on
Speaker 4: seventeen ended up. I saw where it ended up, and
Speaker 4: I come up there and I watch him. I didn't
Speaker 4: see him hit because I decided looked.
Speaker 3: Out and because he's so fast.
Speaker 4: That's why I wanted to bring up, like everybody's talking
Speaker 4: about it, when you're there in person, it's insane how
Speaker 4: fast he's playing, whether it's putting, and definitely on the full,
Speaker 4: the shots, the wedges. What a weekend for the rules
Speaker 4: of golf and pace of play. The nature may be healing.
Speaker 4: We may be shouting about it and tweeting about it
Speaker 4: for the better part of ten years and just had
Speaker 4: our weekend in the sun with you know, boys manipulating
Speaker 4: their lives and matting things down and then pace and
Speaker 4: play proving being rewarded justly in the ed incredible stuff.
Speaker 3: So full, we'll get to the coverage. But NBC on
Speaker 3: eighteen they just like they had no shot at setting
Speaker 3: up the moment because he hit it so fast. No
Speaker 3: leg up. Tweeted he hit the putt in twenty two seconds,
Speaker 3: and then followed up with I can't even get a
Speaker 3: tweet off in twenty two seconds he had at Winter.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's he's amazing. It's amazing how fast he is.
Speaker 4: It's like you're always you're always between one or two
Speaker 4: clubs and you know the shot you got to hit,
Speaker 4: and you know it's like I see shot and I
Speaker 4: hit the shot, and that's how I work, and that's
Speaker 4: how the brain operates, and just I don't need to
Speaker 4: overthink it. Uh, it's maybe a lesson for all of us.
Speaker 4: You don't have to be that fast, but you know
Speaker 4: it's it's don't need to overcomplicate things.
Speaker 3: Hey, let's bring in KVV, who was out following the
Speaker 3: final group.
Speaker 4: Let's get him. Let's get him in here.
Speaker 3: Hello boys, Storia, you ready for it to be over?
Speaker 5: At the Dream Week, I heard a rumor that that
Speaker 5: some reporters had to take down some tweets about the media.
Speaker 4: There there's a sensitivity that's that's now present about.
Speaker 6: To can I just I heard rumors you can confirm
Speaker 6: or deny. I heard rumors of Lasagna today in a
Speaker 6: touching tribute to Sergio Garcia.
Speaker 5: I walked past there briefly. There was some steak pie.
Speaker 5: I did have my first steak pie of the week.
Speaker 5: It was good. I will say that today the food
Speaker 5: was marginally better. But Brennan and I found this secret
Speaker 5: out there terrible.
Speaker 4: Don't do that much track.
Speaker 5: Listen, you know what it was. Here's I think I
Speaker 5: will say this. There's always a choice at major championships
Speaker 5: about who are you going to follow, and it's very
Speaker 5: hard to figure that out. Brendan and I went out
Speaker 5: and we watched Cam Young on eighteen. We watched him
Speaker 5: hit the chip that got It looked like it was
Speaker 5: going in the entire way. I can just imagine Pja
Speaker 5: just dying as it was creeping towards the hole. And
Speaker 5: then we after Kim made that boat, we kind of
Speaker 5: had a discussion and we were like, well, where do
Speaker 5: you want to go?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: And I was like, wow, you should take Scottie and
Speaker 5: I'll take Sam Burns, I guess. And as I was
Speaker 5: fucking way, as I got to Foxy and Burns and
Speaker 5: the Scotty, things started happening on the other side of
Speaker 5: the course and I knew Parth was there. I was
Speaker 5: really happy for him, but I was so jealous. I
Speaker 5: was like, man, he got the good end of the draw.
Speaker 5: This is so unfair. And it prompted a whole discussion
Speaker 5: with me and Shane Ryan Golf Digest about have you
Speaker 5: ever been in a major and missed like the really
Speaker 5: cool thing, like you just were somewhere else on the
Speaker 5: course whatever, And I smell like the whole hole kind
Speaker 5: of sulking, you know. It was. I got there right
Speaker 5: at eleven when when Fox made a bogey from hitting
Speaker 5: kind of a weak shot, right, and he couldn't get
Speaker 5: up and down and Burns wasn't doing anything, and I
Speaker 5: was like, man, this this group has no juice. This stinks.
Speaker 5: And then it just all hell broke loose and I
Speaker 5: was like, well, this is awesome. I absolutely got the
Speaker 5: best end of the deal. So it was a really
Speaker 5: fun like final hour, but I was I was briefly like, man,
Speaker 5: this stinks. I'm Brendan got all the good stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, you inevitably when you go out no matter what,
Speaker 3: because there's always lulls and golf rounds, you know where
Speaker 3: where the players you're watching are making pars no matter what.
Speaker 3: When you're looking at the leaderboard, you're you're getting fomo
Speaker 3: that you're not somewhere else at all times. And it
Speaker 3: takes real perseverance and and and patience to to see
Speaker 3: your cask out.
Speaker 5: Stick with it. When we said PGA to followed Ben
Speaker 5: Griffin at the Ryder Cup and then it was like
Speaker 5: all coming down to pg's match, I thought, well, maybe
Speaker 5: this is my moment here, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and it did.
Speaker 3: It turned out to be that it did.
Speaker 4: You got it. I honestly, Kevin, I thought like you
Speaker 4: couldn't really go wrong today and you can, We'll get
Speaker 4: to you. I felt like I had a Forest Gump
Speaker 4: kind of day where I was just dropping. I got
Speaker 4: this is such a fun day.
Speaker 5: Tell me to go.
Speaker 4: I got seen of Tommy Fleewood. I talked to Patrick
Speaker 4: Creedive for his takes on Bryson like a rory. I
Speaker 4: got Scottie up, up and down, Scott in the front,
Speaker 4: Scott in the back at the right time, and then
Speaker 4: you got we got burns and Foxy, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I thought there was a ton of stuff out there,
Speaker 4: and that's why I thought it was a good championship.
Speaker 4: Uh follow the let's stuck out to you.
Speaker 5: I think, uh it was. You know, sometimes it's hard
Speaker 5: to see like what's going on, especially at Birkdale, because
Speaker 5: the dunes are kind of everywhere, and so they make
Speaker 5: and they make you stand in these awkward places. Sometimes
Speaker 5: they can't quite tell and so I'm fifteen. It was
Speaker 5: really unclear like how bad his shot was. And Foxy
Speaker 5: had a great thing in the press conference afterwards, and
Speaker 5: he was like he was kind of on the same line.
Speaker 5: He couldn't quite tell like how bad it was, and
Speaker 5: he said he could see Thomas Leavey up there and
Speaker 5: Rad r Riiley and he could see them like walk
Speaker 5: into the bunker and he's like, usually when the encourse
Speaker 5: reporters they walk past the bunker, if they just look
Speaker 5: down and keep going, you know, you're fine and you're good.
Speaker 5: And he's like, I saw like Levey get down in
Speaker 5: there and then like stop and then like really look
Speaker 5: down in there. And I was like he said to
Speaker 5: my caddy. I was like, whoa, this is bad. We're
Speaker 5: in bad shape.
Speaker 4: Here, like trying to figure out how this substance.
Speaker 5: And then just like so fast. I mean, there was
Speaker 5: so many decisions throughout that final round where I was like,
Speaker 5: this would take this would add another thirty minutes or
Speaker 5: forty minutes to this round if this were anyone else.
Speaker 5: But he would just literally step up and you know,
Speaker 5: take one look and take a swing. And the shot
Speaker 5: that he hit, you know, into thirteen when he made
Speaker 5: birdie there was really really great and he hit a
Speaker 5: monster drive down there, and the chip I mean, I
Speaker 5: was like I could barely get into positions sometimes before
Speaker 5: the ball was already flying across the green with both
Speaker 5: him and Burns. And the last putt I think I'll
Speaker 5: remember forever, because it was truly like the crowd had
Speaker 5: not stopped clapping for Burns's putt when the winning putt, Like,
Speaker 5: I mean, nice of Burns to put out and let
Speaker 5: you know, clear the stage and basically be like, here,
Speaker 5: you have a chance to win the Open Championship, So
Speaker 5: I'll clean up my par putt, which is probably worth like,
Speaker 5: you know, a million dollars. I'll just kind of clean
Speaker 5: that up. And then the ball was like it was
Speaker 5: one step in and it was going towards the hole,
Speaker 5: and I just I was so kind of like it's
Speaker 5: golf can be such a mental thing and you watch
Speaker 5: so many players agonize over it, think through it, and
Speaker 5: it just was so refreshing to see someone who absolutely
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, Fate's going to decide this anyway,
Speaker 5: so let's just go.
Speaker 3: There's something to every sport. Everybody talks about how tough
Speaker 3: golf is, and I think like one of the reasons
Speaker 3: that golf is so difficult compared to a lot of
Speaker 3: other athletic endeavors is is this not reactionary, meaning like
Speaker 3: it's not like ball coming at me, make a split
Speaker 3: second decision and react right, And golf is this thing
Speaker 3: where you have time to think about it. You know,
Speaker 3: he's talking about the ball going in the bunker and
Speaker 3: knowing it might be a bad shape because the way
Speaker 3: the encourse reporters looked at it. And do you think
Speaker 3: about like golf like in terms of it gets more
Speaker 3: and more difficult more you dwell over things. And his
Speaker 3: kind of idea of looking at it, getting the number,
Speaker 3: figuring out what it's going to be, and pulling the
Speaker 3: club and hitting like kind of takes some of that
Speaker 3: out of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, get a great quote early on in Presimas today
Speaker 5: where he said I didn't know how I was going
Speaker 5: to feel today, and like early on in the round
Speaker 5: he I turned to my caddy and I said, you know,
Speaker 5: I kind of feel better than I thought I might feel.
Speaker 5: And he just kind of kept getting more and more comfortable.
Speaker 5: But at the same time he was really honest about
Speaker 5: that putt on eighteen. He was like, I had no
Speaker 5: feeling in my hands. They were shaking the way that
Speaker 5: my pant legs were shaking blowing in the wind, that's
Speaker 5: how much they were shaking. And I have no idea
Speaker 5: how I hit that put straight, but I just sent
Speaker 5: it towards the whole hoping that I wouldn't have a
Speaker 5: putt that was that far coming back if I missed,
Speaker 5: and it was pretty cool to see it go in
Speaker 5: Ah though. Holy cow, what a way to win an
Speaker 5: over championship. You know what, Bob Harrik have one more
Speaker 5: thing about this. Bob Harrig told me a great stat.
Speaker 5: If he's the thirteen eighth straight first time Open Championship winner,
Speaker 5: it dates all the way back to Ernie Els, that
Speaker 5: we had someone win the Open Championship who had not
Speaker 5: won it.
Speaker 4: Well, twenty twelve, Ernie Els.
Speaker 3: That live them really class the last great Open player, last.
Speaker 5: Plan, Andy, you should be here, Burman Fast, he could
Speaker 5: have contended here.
Speaker 3: He's he's got more important things to do, like building
Speaker 3: courses in Portugal or something. Now Orkan his foundation. He's
Speaker 3: still in picking grapes. Yeah yeah, watching this peers light
Speaker 3: themselves on fire is what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Uh, Kevin? What else from the from your day out there?
Speaker 4: Following the last group, we should just do away with burns.
Speaker 4: Now we're talking about burns, I should say, well, you know,
Speaker 4: can you.
Speaker 3: Bring us to our first storyline that nobody's talking about?
Speaker 4: What Sergeant Sergeant Sam, what happened to sergeants god.
Speaker 3: Behavior struggles in his first start with his new role
Speaker 3: in Consabladies.
Speaker 5: You know, young Jepine needs to grow into the job.
Speaker 4: It was there for him, like, come on, you shot lead.
Speaker 4: Just you know, we all sat on this podcast last night.
Speaker 4: I think we all picked Sam Burns. We're like, look,
Speaker 4: he's played extremely well in multiple Sundays. He just hasn't
Speaker 4: started from the lead. He's doing it, sorry, from the
Speaker 4: lead and showing his metal on Sundays. That's a good combo.
Speaker 4: And no, he did not play his best Kevin, I
Speaker 4: know you tweeted about it, but but but Foxy was
Speaker 4: a fusion in his praise. Or Burne said, you know, look,
Speaker 4: he's like one of the best kids, the best players.
Speaker 4: They're both fast, both played really fast, like his time
Speaker 4: will come. When he was this was after his press conference,
Speaker 4: Bert fox he was like, look he will. He will
Speaker 4: absolutely get one. Anything about Burns either impressed you or
Speaker 4: kind of leave you wanting.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was just was a true class acts tour.
Speaker 5: I mean, when's the last time you saw major champion
Speaker 5: make a winning putt? And then the first that he
Speaker 5: celebrates with is the guy who I mean Dinzar with
Speaker 5: his caddy, Like he literally just goes over there and
Speaker 5: burns is like literally like clapping as the putt kind
Speaker 5: of you know, as he's walking towards it. Like I
Speaker 5: thought it was cool that Sam was able to sort
Speaker 5: of have recognize how cool that moment was, almost like
Speaker 5: he had become a fan in that moment and just
Speaker 5: be like, man, a guy just made a putt to
Speaker 5: win the ten foot or whatever to win the Open Championship.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give him his his love, even though I'm
Speaker 5: feeling absolutely devastated, and I think, I don't know, I
Speaker 5: think some of the scenes when peat guys lose the
Speaker 5: Open Championships are the most real and human in all
Speaker 5: of sports. It just and so I watched him and
Speaker 5: Cam Young like kind of walk away and sort of
Speaker 5: let it all settle in, And it was almost kind
Speaker 5: of haunting, man, because it's like Cam Young and some
Speaker 5: of the probably saw the clip of him on the
Speaker 5: driving range, like when he heard the huge roar go
Speaker 5: up and he just sort of quietly like put his
Speaker 5: headcover back on his driver and kind of shook hands
Speaker 5: with your people and then just started walking away. It
Speaker 5: was like, what a what a hard thing to have
Speaker 5: to swallow knowing that you're you had a chip that was,
Speaker 5: you know, an inch away from straight up probably winning
Speaker 5: the Open championship, and now you're just you don't actually
Speaker 5: even get to to have a playoff. It was it
Speaker 5: was unbelievably like real. Uh. I think as a way
Speaker 5: I would describe it.
Speaker 4: It's a long walk in view from the home scorin
Speaker 4: area all the way back to their like temporary locker room,
Speaker 4: and they kind of he was fine. It just looked
Speaker 4: like sort of was kind of slunking away and felt
Speaker 4: bad for him. Burns allegedly was emotional again and scoring
Speaker 4: or on the TV broadcast, which we didn't see. So
Speaker 4: all right, Kevin, anything else?
Speaker 3: I think though with that, with Burns and Cam, who
Speaker 3: have now both had real close calls multiple times, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of the parting message is always and it's got
Speaker 3: to be what Rory said after l a cc as,
Speaker 3: I'd take ye million Sunday.
Speaker 5: One of.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, it hurts. And like the thing about golf
Speaker 3: and is there's these just like micro moments and you
Speaker 3: just will sit and stew with them for you know,
Speaker 3: he's you know, for Burns and for Cam Young for
Speaker 3: Lucas Herbert, like there are gonna be these moments from
Speaker 3: this tournament that they think about for like the rest
Speaker 3: of their life, like decisions, shots, bounces. But this is
Speaker 3: all like part you just you just want to have
Speaker 3: a ticket and be in the dance at the end
Speaker 3: and have have a chance for you to hit the shots.
Speaker 3: And you know, for Burns today, it just just didn't
Speaker 3: feel like he ever hit the shots that we've kind
Speaker 3: of become started to become more accustomed to seeing them
Speaker 3: hit on Sunday, especially at Shinnacock, and I thought the one,
Speaker 3: you know where he just couldn't get the putts to
Speaker 3: to follow. But like the shot he hit on fifteen
Speaker 3: could have been that like kind of lightning rod moment
Speaker 3: that that sparked him. But then he doesn't make the
Speaker 3: putt and that's like the tricky thing. And we saw
Speaker 3: Scotty do it all week long, is hit the shots.
Speaker 3: But you have to pay him off in golf. And
Speaker 3: that's what Ryan Fox did, was he paid off all
Speaker 3: of the big all really the big moments coming down
Speaker 3: the stretch, with the exception of seventeen, every time he
Speaker 3: had a chance, he saw blood in the water. And
Speaker 3: he struck him, and that's the difference. He went out
Speaker 3: and won the damn tournament.
Speaker 5: I think the only takeaway I would say about Burns
Speaker 5: just is like, you know, we always hear like the
Speaker 5: best is the best putter on the PGA Tour. This
Speaker 5: guy like he's he's really great at putting, and it
Speaker 5: just feels a lot like those that doesn't show up
Speaker 5: on Sundays at a major. And I that's the one
Speaker 5: thing that's like it's almost like the expectations are set
Speaker 5: for like, man, when are you going to make one
Speaker 5: of these like huge, huge putts? And you know, maybe
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't follow final around you it's open.
Speaker 5: You know, I was with Wyndham and and Scotti, but
Speaker 5: it just felt like cut you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: That's what I kept thinking all day. My other takeaway
Speaker 5: Brennan is just like Brokedale's a great open venue. I
Speaker 5: think from everything from like the train station is literally
Speaker 5: right here, like there you get a lot of fans there,
Speaker 5: there's walkable things within town, like we get an exciting
Speaker 5: open championship. I didn't love that there was so many
Speaker 5: like sixty two's, but I think overall, like Brokedale's really
Speaker 5: held up in history as like a good place to
Speaker 5: hold an open and I'll be ready to come back
Speaker 5: here in ten years.
Speaker 4: Every version of Burkedale will say the real quick.
Speaker 3: I just I'd be remiss if we didn't talk about this.
Speaker 3: I think not not enough. I'm just seeing the early
Speaker 3: discourse has been made of Fox backing up is sixty
Speaker 3: two at a really hard day with the same shooting.
Speaker 4: That was the one thing I wanted to bring up
Speaker 4: is I I'm glad you did it. It's like when
Speaker 4: that guy, when we see those sixty twos, it's kind
Speaker 4: of like, all right, cool, nice. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 4: Ricky at the first round of LA It just feels
Speaker 4: like sort of a footnote in a week or a
Speaker 4: memorable like trivia question. And yeah, it's a great point. Andy,
Speaker 4: is is that like he converted on the sixty two
Speaker 4: like and that that to me is sort of the
Speaker 4: payoff of those last six holes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh and then and then birds obviously he
Speaker 3: had the sixty two on Friday, sixty five on Saturday,
Speaker 3: and then you know, it's kind of what we said
Speaker 3: on last night is you know, the birds of this
Speaker 3: challenge is like can you shoot another good round?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Can you shoot another sixty eighty? You know, what he
Speaker 3: needed was a seventy to be in the playoff. But
Speaker 3: that's it's just tall task, like you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: hard to play, you know, unless you're Tommy Fleetwood shoot
Speaker 3: four rounds in the six rounds.
Speaker 5: He's like the only player in the field to break
Speaker 5: bar every.
Speaker 3: Day, Tommy, you know. Or storyline nobody's talking about is
Speaker 3: Fleetwood inspires generations has come with us? Bertie on eighteen?
Speaker 4: Uh no't walk off, Bertie? There you go? What's wrong
Speaker 4: with that?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 4: To that point and the Ry quote about one hundred
Speaker 4: sundays or a thousand sundays like this, I mean, do
Speaker 4: you think that's a universal mindset? I think Roy is
Speaker 4: pretty unique in his resilience or optimism. I don't think
Speaker 4: he's you know, completely unique, But I think some guys
Speaker 4: are broken by the chances of winning and don't want
Speaker 4: that anymore or don't approach that anymore. And I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that you under Sam Burns in this instance, but
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a that's constant.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Brendan and I just I talked
Speaker 5: to Billy Foster today for a thing that we're going
Speaker 5: to write next week, because it was as forty first
Speaker 5: Open as a caddy, and so we were talking through
Speaker 5: some of this stuff and he said, you know, he
Speaker 5: took me through like losing the Open championship with Thomas
Speaker 5: Bjorn and he was like, it haunts me to this day.
Speaker 5: I think about it every day. Wow, that is like
Speaker 5: such a real, real, honest quote, and I think that's
Speaker 5: totally true. Some guys never get over it. When they
Speaker 5: didn't it goes with obviously that's a caddy. But man,
Speaker 5: that's what makes this kind of tension coming down the
Speaker 5: stretch so compelling, because you know, one guy's going to
Speaker 5: be devastated and sitting alone in his car an hour
Speaker 5: from now and just be like what happened? How did
Speaker 5: it all go wrong? And someone's going to have their
Speaker 5: name on a trophy that's been around for one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty years.
Speaker 3: You know, with that moment, right, and this is just
Speaker 3: a universal golfing. This is what everybody who plays golf,
Speaker 3: and even just in a match with buddies, it feels
Speaker 3: pretty much the same, you know, it feels like maybe
Speaker 3: just like slightly different, if you're in the mix but
Speaker 3: you're standing over putts that batter coming down the match
Speaker 3: and you don't want to lose your buddy. Is like
Speaker 3: those are the moments. That's that's what makes golf incredible.
Speaker 3: And it's you know, it is like it accepting, like
Speaker 3: there is like a certain mindset that you have to
Speaker 3: take on those on those moments where you have to
Speaker 3: say like, okay, I'm here and I like one thing
Speaker 3: I thought about Fox with this press conference talking that
Speaker 3: was like great advice for everybody was He's like, probably
Speaker 3: saw how deep I was breathing throughout it. It's like
Speaker 3: it is just about making sure you're you're breathing deep,
Speaker 3: making sure you're wiggling your toes and you're and you
Speaker 3: you know, more importantly, are are understanding of the moment
Speaker 3: and your ability to do something great in the moment
Speaker 3: rather than loathing and thinking about the things that can
Speaker 3: go wrong in the moment. And it's such a hard
Speaker 3: thing to and it's you know, doubt, God, doubt is
Speaker 3: just an enemy of everybody and all aspects of life.
Speaker 3: But golf, more so than anything else, is is just
Speaker 3: riddled like everywhere you turns your your head is riddled
Speaker 3: with doubt.
Speaker 5: Yep, good Will said, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Kevin, you're gonna be writing eloquently about Ryan Fox
Speaker 4: tonight and other things of our experience from UH at Birkdale.
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us subscribing to Friday newsletter. I
Speaker 4: do know, uh, Kevin and I will be on our
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Speaker 4: I you know, Foxy. When he finished up, said this
Speaker 4: was off to the side the scrum after his press
Speaker 4: conference was done. What are you gonna drink? Is gonna
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Speaker 4: Jog A lot of red wine, A lot of grape,
Speaker 4: said the say grip. He said, red wine like a
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Speaker 3: Ech Man, where do you want to go next? I mean,
Speaker 3: I think we got to talk about what you witnessed.
Speaker 3: The sheriff, who I mean sky shuffler. It's gonna kick
Speaker 3: himself about it not winning this one.
Speaker 4: I uh. I was walking with somebody else and he
Speaker 4: hit it close at nine and I was like, I
Speaker 4: gotta go in. It's like, you don't want to stay here.
Speaker 4: It's like, I just watch him miss another six footer
Speaker 4: and he did miss. He missed one on eight, he
Speaker 4: missed one on nine.
Speaker 3: They were bad. I mean.
Speaker 4: Ed did yesterday and had a chance. He had a
Speaker 4: chance in the final hour thanks a little bit to
Speaker 4: an all world Bertie. I was just hoping and praying
Speaker 4: that would end up being like even more consequential than
Speaker 4: it was an insane Bertie. After hitting it off the
Speaker 4: planet at seventeen, he hits a drive that you know,
Speaker 4: it's cutting, he's said, or slicing, and gets hung up
Speaker 4: and the rough the Schmutz going just short of like
Speaker 4: a blowout bunker on a dude there on the left side,
Speaker 4: and he is hot. I was about seventy yards ahead
Speaker 4: on a forward tee and I was looking forward at
Speaker 4: the drive out of the fairway, and I hear him
Speaker 4: screaming from seventy yards like screaming, and already the loudness
Speaker 4: of a tournament, whether it's ambient noise or fans. I
Speaker 4: was like, whoa, what happened there? You ended up catching
Speaker 4: it on sky and tweeting it. So he gets hut
Speaker 4: up in the rough. He's not happy that the police
Speaker 4: were they were you know, affecting, you know, pepper spraying
Speaker 4: and and you know they were pissed off at that point,
Speaker 4: the fair police they were, they were out there pepper
Speaker 4: spraying and using tasers when he got caught up in
Speaker 4: the rough. One, how why how does that hang up?
Speaker 4: He's screaming.
Speaker 3: It seems like him is damn we're talking about about
Speaker 3: Link Scoff all week together.
Speaker 4: What do you mean just with the like the running
Speaker 4: theme of their comments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just probably were sitting in their rental house
Speaker 3: complaining all week.
Speaker 4: Why wait, that's so unfair. Why do you think Scotty
Speaker 4: hates Links Golf for complaints about he's a raining Open
Speaker 4: Champions talked about.
Speaker 3: You did all these drivers that should have been in
Speaker 3: the fairway that weren't.
Speaker 4: He did say that. He did say that.
Speaker 3: I can't easy that port Rush port Rush to be
Speaker 3: at this point to then no where like I felt
Speaker 3: going into port RuSHA the real test was like, can
Speaker 3: you put these links greens? And this this year was
Speaker 3: like a huge step back in that. And in terms
Speaker 3: of just I don't know what it is about links
Speaker 3: golf in the greens, it seems like it really buffuddles.
Speaker 4: And bort Rush does have some of the more I
Speaker 4: don't know what, I call it normal ish, yeah, like
Speaker 4: more akin to normal greens for him, less links, even
Speaker 4: though it is absolutely a links course. So he he's
Speaker 4: in a goofy spot. He's got to go for broke.
Speaker 4: He's going for broke right, he needs to go. Bertie's
Speaker 4: sixteen needs to go in theory maybe eagle Birdie play
Speaker 4: like the last four get from six to ten. So
Speaker 4: he even talks about hating driver off the deck. He
Speaker 4: gets out his club I would say mashed down, but
Speaker 4: he put it behind the ball. The driver off the deck,
Speaker 4: he was not he was very careful, not legend anything here,
Speaker 4: don't don't giggle. And then he hits a doesn't hit
Speaker 4: the wood and it just is immediately miles my left,
Speaker 4: I mean Ted Scott comes running off the dune to
Speaker 4: like trying to figure out where it's.
Speaker 3: Going left of Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 4: I was right there behind him. And I thought it
Speaker 4: was an illusion, like there's no way that went that
Speaker 4: way that far. He hits a provisional talking to the
Speaker 4: referee and then goes and fine goes in marching to
Speaker 4: his ball and way left behind Clarence the two story
Speaker 4: hospitality arrangement with some I'm sure, no doubt dopey slogan
Speaker 4: on the side of it about greatness lives in these
Speaker 4: dunes or something, and so it goes marching off. It
Speaker 4: was interesting. I don't know if this is on TV.
Speaker 4: He walked past his dad, who was right there in
Speaker 4: the crowd, and they had like a moment like balls
Speaker 4: over here, right, and yeah, like nodded. I don't know
Speaker 4: what was said, and it was just like kind of
Speaker 4: a cordial, funny exchange. Is like his dad was one
Speaker 4: of the persons he walked right by, and I was
Speaker 4: bouncing behind this hospitality suite and we're like in amongst
Speaker 4: the kegs and these servers and these security guards who
Speaker 4: don't like all the fans are just like coming in
Speaker 4: because there's no security over there.
Speaker 3: And John Wood is upright, John at the guy with
Speaker 3: the beer while they're making the rule.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean I was all I was right,
Speaker 4: there isn't it And the rules official did a did
Speaker 4: a nice job. I thought he got got a big
Speaker 4: commendation from the like chief referee Mark Litton, who I
Speaker 4: talked to afterwards for getting the I don't know, being
Speaker 4: expedient and getting the right rule down. So they find him,
Speaker 4: they find they do not find the ball, and he's
Speaker 4: talking to this referee who I think was Spanish because
Speaker 4: he was talking Spanish with a by a stare earlier
Speaker 4: in the round and uh, and Scott is chatting over things,
Speaker 4: and up in the up in the schmutz the thicket
Speaker 4: is John Wood and I think another person a security guy,
Speaker 4: the usher Brucey, who he called who's had the last
Speaker 4: couple of years. And it didn't look like fun, like
Speaker 4: you're getting caught in the you know, bramble bushes. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 4: we don't want to find it. Stop stop, stop looking.
Speaker 4: We don't want to find it. And he says this
Speaker 4: on the record afterward, because if they find it, he
Speaker 4: then he then will have to take relief the nearer
Speaker 4: side of where the ball is, which would have been
Speaker 4: according I talked to Mark Litton, who was the same
Speaker 4: guy who was out there on five with with Bryson
Speaker 4: on Friday and Shackelford asked him, or Shackford talked to him.
Speaker 4: He was like, I bet you're ready for this week
Speaker 4: to be over. This Litton guy's like, yeah, crazy week.
Speaker 4: And I talked to He's like, well, if they've found it,
Speaker 4: he'd have to take relief on the near side, it
Speaker 4: would have been a shit show. It's in some schmutz
Speaker 4: over by eighteen getting yardage super blind. Probably. Instead, they
Speaker 4: purpose they purposely stop looking for the ball. They do
Speaker 4: not find it, but they are quote virtually certain that
Speaker 4: it is in there, and if it is in there,
Speaker 4: then he would be.
Speaker 3: It seems it seemed like they were pretty it was
Speaker 3: in there. And on the other side.
Speaker 4: You mean where he would higher up, farther up towards
Speaker 4: the junk. Yeah, So because they're virtually certain it's there,
Speaker 4: he then gets the TiO relief as if it's there.
Speaker 4: But because it was not found, he can choose or
Speaker 4: they choose the point of entry. Now, the point of
Speaker 4: entry is just a nice little wet shot up to
Speaker 4: the elevated green, and of course they take the drop
Speaker 4: to get on the other side of TiO. They find
Speaker 4: a nice little lie and the mix of Hay and
Speaker 4: Ted Scott was very Ted Scott was, you know, calling
Speaker 4: the plays on the drop zone, where to wear the
Speaker 4: little inch by inch centimeters to drop it, get that
Speaker 4: hay out of there, make sure it's not too sandy,
Speaker 4: and so they purposely don't look for it. They'd stop
Speaker 4: looking for it. He gets to pick the point of entry.
Speaker 4: He gets kind of a nice, pretty nice little web
Speaker 4: shot line, hits a great web shot to his credit
Speaker 4: and makes the punt, and she makes the four. So
Speaker 4: he hit an awful, awful, awful shot into the into
Speaker 4: the miles left, and there's zero penalty for it.
Speaker 3: And not not one shot, two shots miles left.
Speaker 4: He did his provisional, which just who knows. And there's
Speaker 4: the point. The problem is, like on paper and sensibility,
Speaker 4: this just this does doesn't seem quote fair, It doesn't
Speaker 4: seem justified, doesn't seem commensurate with the shot. But he
Speaker 4: was bailed out by this TiO and there's virtually certain rule.
Speaker 4: And then did you have this extra topping seasoning of
Speaker 4: the don't look for it that gets him a further advantage.
Speaker 4: And I think it's just left the bad taste in
Speaker 4: everybody's mouth for me personally being in the thick of it,
Speaker 4: like behind the hospitality and on top of him when
Speaker 4: he was making his drop and shot. Ah, it was delightful.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. And I was in and out
Speaker 4: of service and I come back to you and Joseph
Speaker 4: texting like the end of the world is happening, and
Speaker 4: I this Litton the rules officials like he was incredulous,
Speaker 4: like he's one lucky boy that if that had if
Speaker 4: they have not found it, like he didn't say he
Speaker 4: was screwed, but it was going to be. It was
Speaker 4: a way worse option going to the nearer side of
Speaker 4: where it was found from the TiO like he is
Speaker 4: very he was like very happy. He should be very
Speaker 4: happy they didn't find it. And he gave the Spanish
Speaker 4: or the walking referee like a ton of credit for
Speaker 4: how fast he adjudicated and got it done and did
Speaker 4: the right ruling. It was the correct ruling on paper,
Speaker 4: Was it the correct ruling spirit to you?
Speaker 3: No, No, it was a total disgrace. The fact that
Speaker 3: like I love that people are like, well, they found
Speaker 3: the ball and this was the drop. No, they didn't
Speaker 3: find the ball. He was they instructed him not to
Speaker 3: find the ball, and like there is like this whole
Speaker 3: presumption of like, okay, like we're going to assume it
Speaker 3: went in there. But then, you know, the thing I
Speaker 3: found interesting is there's two drop points, and we're just
Speaker 3: giving him the better drop point if we're assuming, if
Speaker 3: we're assuming when somebody hits it a mile offline and
Speaker 3: it went in too there even though we haven't found it, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I think I might be able to get there,
Speaker 3: might be able to get there. With that, we're just
Speaker 3: gonna assume that it goes in there. But then to
Speaker 3: give him the good drop point when he just hit
Speaker 3: one of the worst shots I've ever seen him hit
Speaker 3: in his life, to where it was like, oh, like
Speaker 3: if I had just laid up, I would have had
Speaker 3: an equally good shot. So I got basically a free
Speaker 3: attempt to hit it at the green and with it
Speaker 3: try and hit it in two. And instead I get
Speaker 3: over there and I get this free drop point. The
Speaker 3: drop point should have been in the bad spot, And
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm curious if Bryson had done the
Speaker 3: same thing, what do you think the reaction would have been?
Speaker 3: This is what Joseph and I were were wondering.
Speaker 4: I kind of they did everything right on paper. I
Speaker 4: think TiO is sort of a disgrace and has been.
Speaker 3: Cio is such a disgrace.
Speaker 4: That's that's sort of the issue. I like, And you're
Speaker 4: bailing him out, like he didn't lay up because he
Speaker 4: has to go for broke. That's the context. He his
Speaker 4: two holes up in his championship and he thinks he
Speaker 4: has to get to nine or ten under, and so
Speaker 4: he's going for it, and that's why he doesn't lay
Speaker 4: up to the web shot that he ended up getting.
Speaker 4: I think if Bryson was doing it, we would have
Speaker 4: been were people furious about this? If I misreading the reaction,
Speaker 4: we're people really upset about it. I think I think
Speaker 4: we would have been doing the same, but like it
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been untoward or illegal. They did the right thing.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would have been changed much. He
Speaker 4: would have been like, oh, maybe more people who hate
Speaker 4: Bryson would have been like that lucky sob and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, But I don't think it would have changed much.
Speaker 4: It sounds like we're people furious on Twitter.
Speaker 3: We're furious. I think I think they I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't know if Bryson would have gotten the same treatment.
Speaker 3: I think the drop, the whole drop thing, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think the double assumption is such bullshit, frankly speaking,
Speaker 3: So we're just going to take some volunteers word that
Speaker 3: it went in here. Okay, I'll I'll accept that, But
Speaker 3: we're also going to take we're going to assume that
Speaker 3: it went in on the point that's most favorable to
Speaker 3: the player is total horseshiph.
Speaker 4: It's it's not as bad as the one of the
Speaker 4: sony find a backboard and they send it over. The
Speaker 4: send it.
Speaker 7: Over the backboard.
Speaker 3: If you don't find it, you should have to go
Speaker 3: to the bad area. Is the way the rules should work.
Speaker 4: You hit a ball so bad it was lost.
Speaker 3: Like my other question about t i oh is like
Speaker 3: why is the why is the lost ball rule null
Speaker 3: and void? Why?
Speaker 4: That's your question that needs to be asked.
Speaker 8: Yeah, actually have a way better chance of finding it
Speaker 8: if you hit it into TiO.
Speaker 3: Then if you hit it into a gorse bush. But
Speaker 3: if I hit it into a gorse bush, I have
Speaker 3: I get a lost ball, even though I saw it
Speaker 3: go in there, I don't get a free drop out
Speaker 3: of a gorse bush like that. That's my my. I
Speaker 3: have no issue with what Scottie Scheffler did. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of issue with the rule and how it's been,
Speaker 3: how it's always administered in pro golf. And we saw
Speaker 3: that the way that unfolded almost completely changed the championship
Speaker 3: where a competitor hit one of the worst shots of
Speaker 3: their career, made a terrible decision, hit one of the
Speaker 3: worst shots of their career, and then was rewarded with
Speaker 3: a simple pitchin putt birdie that then gave him a
Speaker 3: chance to win the Open Championship.
Speaker 4: I mean that was the context as well, is like
Speaker 4: he can cashed. He cashed it, cashed in on it,
Speaker 4: and we don't know that ten is gonna win. We think, like,
Speaker 4: holy shit, this might be one of the worst shots
Speaker 4: of his career, that that could lead to him at
Speaker 4: least getting to a playoff. Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 4: a circus and I'm glad we got a dose of
Speaker 4: it we needed. We needed an injection of that kind
Speaker 4: of intrigue, anger, feur and debate and drama in the
Speaker 4: final route.
Speaker 3: Over our Scotty though, what a what a rough week.
Speaker 3: The sad thing too, is he's gonna go. He's about
Speaker 3: to go on a tear. He's hitting a good barnstorm through.
Speaker 3: He's gonna win a bunch more. But what a tough
Speaker 3: tough spot here for Scotty going going bagel boy. It
Speaker 3: makes the Scottie Shuffler. Honestly, it makes Scotty Scheffler way
Speaker 3: more interesting that he did not get a major this year.
Speaker 6: If for some reason you still have Scott available in
Speaker 6: one and done, I think the three M is setting
Speaker 6: up wonderfully.
Speaker 4: I think I d the save it for the twenty
Speaker 4: five million dollar FedEx Cup events too. Maybe he's gonna
Speaker 4: go and make Hay there.
Speaker 3: Scott.
Speaker 4: He had some comments too as well. After the round.
Speaker 4: He said, we need to be policing policing guys about
Speaker 4: the Bryson drop a little bit more. I think we
Speaker 4: need to be a little bit more strict in the
Speaker 4: way that we are policing guys, because I think that
Speaker 4: he like swerved out of his way to say Bryson's
Speaker 4: not a cheater. We'll talk about Bryson, We'll clean up
Speaker 4: there a little bit. But why are all these guys like,
Speaker 4: I mean, you talked about last night Rory sort of
Speaker 4: putting it out there. I'm saying, you know, I found
Speaker 4: a Bryson. I think he did what he did. I
Speaker 4: think he's performative. And the way he acted on Friday Night,
Speaker 4: why did these guys feel like they need to go
Speaker 4: out of their way to defend Bryce? Not defense, but
Speaker 4: but just throw it extra cookie to Bryson, to Shambeau
Speaker 4: and say, he's never been a cheater I've known in
Speaker 4: my life. It's not his nature. Like it's unsolicited. Just
Speaker 4: give it take. Let's be honest with Like, can we
Speaker 4: just be honest with ourselves. A lot of people don't
Speaker 4: like Bryson to shambo on tour and otherwise they think
Speaker 4: he's a phony, and they might be right, and we
Speaker 4: could just say that and that doesn't mean he's a
Speaker 4: bad golfer or necessarily even a bad person, but he's inauthentic,
Speaker 4: and for our sake, it's hilarious. I find it comical
Speaker 4: when he does these, you know, he goes through these
Speaker 4: phases of you know, just I'm the people's golfer, now,
Speaker 4: you know, or there's a grievance golfer, like he's a
Speaker 4: phony and I just one of the biggest, most symbolic
Speaker 4: things of the weekend was I saw he threw a
Speaker 4: ball to a kid walking from nine Green to ten
Speaker 4: Bryson yesterday, and the kid got the ball and this
Speaker 4: camera guy for either Sky, NBC or Open or something
Speaker 4: went to him. It made him stage this scene of like, smile,
Speaker 4: hold the ball, and the cameraman is like tilting the
Speaker 4: ball perfectly in his hand with like I don't know
Speaker 4: so you can see it the logo or something, and smile.
Speaker 4: You have to start smiling and wave right now, start smiling,
Speaker 4: wave and the camera And it felt like so a
Speaker 4: piece of the Bryce that they because it was just
Speaker 4: completely manufactured and it wasn't Bryson himself making all this,
Speaker 4: but this is the Bryson verse where everything feels a
Speaker 4: little manufactured. I just felt that necessary for Scotti, who
Speaker 4: I think clearly seems upset that they're not policing this
Speaker 4: more strictly whether he thinks Bryson did intentionally or not
Speaker 4: to go out of his way to just defend him
Speaker 4: all the time. Bryson's great. I think he's for content,
Speaker 4: but like clearly he's just.
Speaker 3: It's the pros way of of of of a you know,
Speaker 3: the the Larry David having said that, you know where
Speaker 3: you start with, like, I'm I'm a huge fan. You
Speaker 3: know Bryce, this isn't in the spirit of Bryson having
Speaker 3: said that, you know, Bryson would never treat Cheep, having
Speaker 3: said that we need the police more. I this is
Speaker 3: a way to cover bases. None of these people want
Speaker 3: awkward moments in the locker room.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's the thing.
Speaker 4: Why can't like, if everybody feels a certain not everybody
Speaker 4: if you feel a certain way, why do you go
Speaker 4: out of your way to say the opposite? At least
Speaker 4: just be moot. It's bizarre. It's bizarre anyways, Uh do
Speaker 4: you think any of this starts to compound with Scotty
Speaker 4: the you know T threes, the T fives of majors,
Speaker 4: the you know the ball that gets caught up up
Speaker 4: in the rough, you know, the one bad hole there's
Speaker 4: a bad shot, get a bad break, and these are
Speaker 4: all these close but no cigars.
Speaker 3: I do I think this this is the way that
Speaker 3: droughts start happening. You know, winning seems so easy until
Speaker 3: until it isn't, you know, And I think he's in
Speaker 3: this phase of like, Okay, there's so many close calls
Speaker 3: like you could. It could be it could go two ways, right,
Speaker 3: it could just be like a blip on the radar,
Speaker 3: or it could lead to him winning way less frequently.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy to think the guy after the
Speaker 3: last two years has only won once this year, given
Speaker 3: how often he's been in the mix. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: just been sloppy too, Like, let's call a spade a spade,
Speaker 3: Like he hasn't hit the shots that we've grown accustomed
Speaker 3: to him hitting in the moments he needs them, whether
Speaker 3: they're putts or whether they're driver or the great drives
Speaker 3: that like take advantage of the par fives like I
Speaker 3: you know, I think that today was his first birdie
Speaker 3: on seventeen all week, or maybe it was fifth, I
Speaker 3: can't remember. It was fourteen or seventeen, that he hadn't
Speaker 3: burdied all week, he had played one of them one
Speaker 3: over to date, and you just think about it, it's
Speaker 3: like that that's not Scotty's recipe for just demolishing these fields,
Speaker 3: and he's just been a little off. You know, he's
Speaker 3: still the best player in the world, and he's still
Speaker 3: the most consistent player in the world, but this is
Speaker 3: the way that mental scar tissue. I think, like that's
Speaker 3: the thing that I marveled that last year was these
Speaker 3: moments where he could develop scar tissue never happened. They
Speaker 3: just he would always win. This year has been just
Speaker 3: moment after a moment of heartbreaking scar tissue, Like he
Speaker 3: has to feel this one, I would guess hurts more
Speaker 3: than any other one this year because this one he
Speaker 3: absolutely was the best player t degree in the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting a couple of different ways to feeling close.
Speaker 4: I thought I thought the US Open was a little
Speaker 4: arming because it was the first time he's ever just
Speaker 4: like totally a passenger, like never close, just a guy
Speaker 4: that was a passenger for Wyndham Clark. This was what
Speaker 4: this was the other way, whereas like you know, he's
Speaker 4: kind of in the battle all the way around, even
Speaker 4: with the drop. A very interesting examination as we go
Speaker 4: to Masters next year. Could win, could win five times
Speaker 4: between on the Masters, who knows, could win six times,
Speaker 4: eight times? I don't know, But yes, that he's now
Speaker 4: at a stage where that's that's sort of I don't
Speaker 4: want to say we completely judge him by the Majors,
Speaker 4: but those are those are the big deals for him,
Speaker 4: for someone of that caliber that wins that much. Any
Speaker 4: any Rory cleanup you want to go through sort of
Speaker 4: the other top player in the world of this era.
Speaker 3: I mean talking storyline, nobody's talking about Rory. He's an
Speaker 3: important role this week, lead negotiator. He finishes T forty,
Speaker 3: but he plays a pivotal role in freeing the open
Speaker 3: from hostages. I have to say with Rory, I thought
Speaker 3: this this week was like the short misses that plagued
Speaker 3: almost every round. He was missing short putts and at
Speaker 3: one point I think he missed a short one early
Speaker 3: today and I was thinking about it. It's like he's
Speaker 3: missed at least like six putts inside of six feet
Speaker 3: and he's two hunder right now. He'd be at eight
Speaker 3: under if it wasn't for those putts. Like when you're
Speaker 3: really sharp, you just you know, you see this all
Speaker 3: the time on tours, Like this guy is leading the
Speaker 3: term and he hasn't missed a putt inside ten feet
Speaker 3: this week. You know, if you just there's a certain
Speaker 3: thing with Rory and a player of like Rory's eel.
Speaker 3: Because Scotti missed a lot of short putts this week too,
Speaker 3: so he could be in the same bucket like Scotty.
Speaker 3: I feel like Scotty played well enough from tea to
Speaker 3: green to win this event by like five or six shots.
Speaker 3: With Rory, I thought he played well enough to be
Speaker 3: in in the mix, but he had just like some
Speaker 3: critical like the first round was just a killer in
Speaker 3: terms of like he played outstanding golf t degree he
Speaker 3: had the chip shot on seventeen was killer. All the
Speaker 3: short misses and then he had a few more short
Speaker 3: misses peppered in over the weekend, and it's like, there's
Speaker 3: the term that's the difference between finishing T forty and
Speaker 3: being you know what we talked about, like all you
Speaker 3: want to do is have be in the arena on
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon, have a shot to win, have a shance
Speaker 3: Like today's tournament was, it's wide open and whoever plays
Speaker 3: the best how the back line is going to win.
Speaker 3: And Ryan Fox did it. And that's the thing with
Speaker 3: Rory was he was just sloppy and he wasn't wasn't there.
Speaker 4: Uh he had some good shots in the press conference too,
Speaker 4: not just on the golf course. Those were maybe his
Speaker 4: best shots of the week Saturday night. Get do you
Speaker 4: think more people agree with them or disagree with them.
Speaker 4: It's a very subjective, unanswerable question about the golf things.
Speaker 4: No about Bryson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think more people agree with him than disagree.
Speaker 3: He's just the only one that has reached the the
Speaker 3: don't give a f standing in the game. If this
Speaker 3: was sounding off, somebody should go to the Champions Store
Speaker 3: event next week and just get them all to ask
Speaker 3: them all about Bryson and what they think, because they
Speaker 3: all they are all at the age or they don't
Speaker 3: don't don't care what other people think of them.
Speaker 4: I just we all, Okay, Yeah, it's just I don't know.
Speaker 4: Everybody knows and thinks in a certain way. And I
Speaker 4: know he has a very rabbit online fan base, but
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean he's a bad part. It's just clearly phony.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Rory.
Speaker 4: Also, I think unintentionally or maybe intentionally maybe intentionally, sort
Speaker 4: of didn't gloss the new course changes as good. So
Speaker 4: it didn't play like a Links course. I'm paraphrasing. All
Speaker 4: the severe runoffs, the elevated greens. It just basically didn't play.
Speaker 4: It wasn't Links golf. It was at least a lot
Speaker 4: less like Links golf compared to being here last time
Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen seems like an issue if you know,
Speaker 4: the Links golf course is changed and then it doesn't
Speaker 4: play like Links golf. This is in Rory's pov. And
Speaker 4: by the way, I should add, maybe he had some
Speaker 4: of the most pristine Links conditions you will get in
Speaker 4: with the with the turf, uh, there wasn't win, but
Speaker 4: with the turf being what it's what it's been, and
Speaker 4: and not having some deluge of reign the week of
Speaker 4: or during the tournament in the summer they've had, it
Speaker 4: seems like kind of an indictment of the changes. And
Speaker 4: maybe those changes weren't necessarily made just in talking to
Speaker 4: some people here, were made were made with the thought
Speaker 4: that it would be this firm. But then I think
Speaker 4: that's also an indictment of the changes, because right, I mean,
Speaker 4: if the golf course and a Links can't play when
Speaker 4: they get it like perfecto conditions for Links golf firmness,
Speaker 4: that maybe those aren't great changes either. I personally found
Speaker 4: the venue to be great. I found some of those
Speaker 4: holes to be exciting. I know they were architecturally I
Speaker 4: had came with some controversy and critique, but but some
Speaker 4: of them were amusing for me and enjoyable.
Speaker 3: I enjoy the week. I I thought the fifteenth hole
Speaker 3: was humorous and how hard it was and challenging to hit,
Speaker 3: you know. Overall, I think like the big question I
Speaker 3: would have if I, if I'm if I, if I'm
Speaker 3: Mark Darbin and I run the RNA, my question would be,
Speaker 3: and this is like should be anybody's question, is how
Speaker 3: many times are we going to hire a group of
Speaker 3: architects that consistently have to have their work redone after
Speaker 3: we stage our biggest championship on their new work? And
Speaker 3: that would be my big question. I don't think their
Speaker 3: work on on the old course that I saw this
Speaker 3: year is going to be celebrated next year, which you know,
Speaker 3: defaming the old course and uh is is just like
Speaker 3: a whole whole new level of of of of kind
Speaker 3: of malprectice. And I think, just like to me, the shaping,
Speaker 3: uh I don't want to talk about this too much,
Speaker 3: but to me, and it's probably better suited for an
Speaker 3: article of some sort. The shaping the level of projects
Speaker 3: that the the architects that are administering this work are
Speaker 3: getting and the quality of work don't match up as
Speaker 3: someone who looks at golf architecture quite a bit and
Speaker 3: visits a lot of the great golf courses in the world,
Speaker 3: I can unequivocally say that I don't think that the
Speaker 3: shaping work is up to snuff for for the for
Speaker 3: the great cathedrals of the game that these people get
Speaker 3: to work on. And that's an opinion. That's what what
Speaker 3: I what I think of it. Having seen a good
Speaker 3: amount of their work, and I would say, like in
Speaker 3: their praise, like they've done great work at places like
Speaker 3: Royal County Downs to Antlee Course, I think the work
Speaker 3: they've done around the Open Rota has been pretty lackluster,
Speaker 3: and it's just evidenced by all these places redoing the
Speaker 3: work as soon as the tournament's over.
Speaker 4: Do you think this played well for an Open Championship?
Speaker 4: I I've obviously been gone off a few times this
Speaker 4: week about like not having a ton of time to
Speaker 4: talk about shaping and tie ins and those things. While
Speaker 4: I understand that there that is a point that should
Speaker 4: have it, that should be a discourse somewhere. Do you
Speaker 4: think that they played decently? Rory didn't seem to think
Speaker 4: so from those comments or suggesting it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe you saw it with like h five, right, we're like,
Speaker 3: what do you you want to make this drivable? Part four?
Speaker 3: But like was it really drivable? It was?
Speaker 4: It was like put it in the neighborhood, but not.
Speaker 4: All you're trying to do is on the front.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think like the other issue with that was
Speaker 3: like you look at the scatter plots and that you know,
Speaker 3: this is what they'll say is they can't wait to
Speaker 3: dive into the scatter plots. It's like, Okay, we created
Speaker 3: binary decisions. You hit it here or you hit it here,
Speaker 3: and some of the greatest holes in the world. And like,
Speaker 3: I think what you're trying to do is like have
Speaker 3: a lot of gray. It shouldn't just be black or white, right.
Speaker 3: The golf thrives of the gray. I think the venue
Speaker 3: is really cool. I enjoyed watching golf here. The conditions yielded,
Speaker 3: you know, gave it so much pop. But you know,
Speaker 3: if we had wind, it would have been really spectacular. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Overall though, like I yeah, like Birkdale, I'm excited to
Speaker 3: go play it. I think it's it's a shame when
Speaker 3: somebody works on you know, these golf courses, when they
Speaker 3: can't get the golf court or the new stuff to
Speaker 3: look like the old stuff like that. That's kind of
Speaker 3: part of the job is to get a golf course
Speaker 3: to feel cohesive together, and you know whatever causing that
Speaker 3: that misconnect because the work they did at the w
Speaker 3: of course looks the same way. It's it's like wait
Speaker 3: a second, like what the hell is that? Like why
Speaker 3: was that built there? Like why how did this come out?
Speaker 4: Like this?
Speaker 3: Who signed off on this? And I think that's the
Speaker 3: issue with their work is like frankly, like it just
Speaker 3: has no quality control. So anyways, I don't want to
Speaker 3: talk any more about this on this podcast.
Speaker 4: But it was a good championship venue. But maybe there were.
Speaker 3: Some great venue. Great venue.
Speaker 4: You're going to come back, it's going to be here
Speaker 4: and should be here, and it's the right kind of
Speaker 4: locale and and I don't know, maybe someone else will
Speaker 4: work on it, maybe they'll do it differently. I found
Speaker 4: the finish to be pretty in Sea sighting.
Speaker 3: Bob Max's comments about the golf.
Speaker 4: Course more Gorse any more Gorse bushes.
Speaker 3: Well, he made like you know, like you know, and
Speaker 3: this is something that architects should think about, is like, Okay,
Speaker 3: and maybe they'll say there wasn't enough wain or whatever,
Speaker 3: but you know, effectively, like if you hit it by distance,
Speaker 3: like I'm paraphrasing Bob mack here, you have to contend
Speaker 3: with everything. And you know, this is a golf course
Speaker 3: that spent millions of pounds overhauling the entire golf course.
Speaker 3: And Bob McIntyre later he's like, you know, basically like
Speaker 3: if you hit it at a certain distance, you could
Speaker 3: just bypass all the bunkers, all the hazards, all the issues.
Speaker 3: And if you're gonna if somebody's going to overhaul the
Speaker 3: whole golf course, these are things that should be considered.
Speaker 3: It kind of goes back to like I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't want to run down the litany of things that
Speaker 3: have happened, but like, okay, so they redid port Rush
Speaker 3: and the seventh Green was an utter disaster. It's it
Speaker 3: got renovated. Right after the nineteen Open Championship. They renovated
Speaker 3: Hoylake seventeenth hole, brand new golf hole that got blown up.
Speaker 3: Members were skipping the hole all the word this week
Speaker 3: out of it was okay, So they renovated the fIF
Speaker 3: fifteenth yere this week. This year this week and that
Speaker 3: hole is going to get Everything said pre tournament was
Speaker 3: that hole is going to get reworked this season, Like
Speaker 3: how many times does this happen? Like the work they
Speaker 3: did on the at the old course is a disaster.
Speaker 3: It looks completely out of place compared to all the
Speaker 3: other stuff. So it's like, how many times are you
Speaker 3: going to do this song and or something changes?
Speaker 4: What do you think about?
Speaker 3: You're just flushing down the toilet. The RNA loves to
Speaker 3: talk about like, oh like, look at all the money
Speaker 3: we're making for all our initiatives. Look at all the
Speaker 3: money you're wasting.
Speaker 4: Also, that's that that so that that's the theme from
Speaker 4: this this this this year, certainly with Mark Darbin on Wednesday,
Speaker 4: is you know they're Dempster head reporting uh from Scotland
Speaker 4: that they're changing or would like to change the fifth
Speaker 4: hole at mirror Field. That for for crowd control so
Speaker 4: that they can have more fans or crowd flow, not control.
Speaker 4: And you know we seen that repeatedly here, you know,
Speaker 4: whether it's from thirteen to fourteen where that was a
Speaker 4: choke point. I can say like crowd control is tough,
Speaker 4: it's not good, it's not a good situation, especially when
Speaker 4: you get dunes land like this and you're like just
Speaker 4: on the side of these slippery fescue dunes and it
Speaker 4: is important. And the RNA will say, well, you know,
Speaker 4: changing the fifth pole a lot we pay for. We'll
Speaker 4: pay for you know, X amount of programs, whether it's amateur,
Speaker 4: whether it's grow the game, whether it's opening up golf
Speaker 4: and new locales and new parts of the world. And
Speaker 4: we make so much money on this week that we
Speaker 4: should probably try to change a golf hole on one
Speaker 4: hundred year old links. It's like they are quick to
Speaker 4: point that out. And Joel bial had a great article
Speaker 4: about how has it lost its soul a little bit?
Speaker 4: And I think that's been a tension at all the
Speaker 4: main this year. Obviously with the Masters, people got really
Speaker 4: worked up about the merch halls and the you know
Speaker 4: what it was a Kevin Hart and all these things
Speaker 4: that like, and then the US Open had, you know,
Speaker 4: scaled down quite honestly, like we're going to leave, how
Speaker 4: lose money and leave millions of dollars on the table
Speaker 4: scaled down at Hinnacock, and then it became another focus
Speaker 4: here at the Open about are you changing courses for
Speaker 4: a one week event, and that one week event is
Speaker 4: probably doing a lot financially, a lot of financial good
Speaker 4: for the game that these organizations, especially the USGA and
Speaker 4: RNA are trying to put, propose and put forth. And
Speaker 4: then you have the PGA Tour of course taking on
Speaker 4: a for profit model, so like that has been a
Speaker 4: theme throughout the year and it feels a little sacrilegious
Speaker 4: to There's a couple points of view, like people say, like, oh,
Speaker 4: you are clutching your per rolls and being a complete
Speaker 4: dork if you're holding onto a golf hole when money
Speaker 4: made a gate could provide could grow the game or
Speaker 4: provide champion Like that is the balance that they will
Speaker 4: put forth. Now, could there be some middle ground where
Speaker 4: you don't have to change a golf course and figure
Speaker 4: out how finance things or make more money a different way?
Speaker 4: Probably that's that sort of the tension that was clear
Speaker 4: this week, and I think the RNA will cite these
Speaker 4: are all member driven changes for golf courses, member driven.
Speaker 4: Member We can't tell members how to change their clubs.
Speaker 4: It's their their club. But the office rebuttal is like
Speaker 4: if they want to uphold the open, they can't decide
Speaker 4: whether the open comes there or not, and sometimes if
Speaker 4: they want it open.
Speaker 3: There's a reason that Martin Papers and Tom McKenzie work
Speaker 3: at every single potential open road of course. And if
Speaker 3: if they if they want to squash the narrative of
Speaker 3: that that you can host hold an open championship without
Speaker 3: working with these architects, then they should actually hold an
Speaker 3: open championship at a golf course that they don't work with.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that was certainly. I don't want to feel
Speaker 4: like we're talking about this too much, but it we
Speaker 4: just had an open at a at a golf course
Speaker 4: to change something on every single hole, more or less
Speaker 4: member driven or otherwise. And a lot of it was
Speaker 4: to you know, whether it was to improve play for members,
Speaker 4: but some of it for sure was to have the
Speaker 4: open and change the test there. So that was a
Speaker 4: big theme for the week. What else do you have
Speaker 4: coming out of this? Do you feel like you want
Speaker 4: to talk about Bryson anymore? How do you feel like
Speaker 4: it ended for Bryson? Obviously flamed, fall of Love, blast
Speaker 4: ball left and the triple.
Speaker 3: Boge that kind of took him completely out of it.
Speaker 3: It felt like it for a while today was just
Speaker 3: hanging around and you know, it's like, I think a
Speaker 3: lot of guys on the leaderboard Bryson. Also, like, if
Speaker 3: you would have told Bryson that ten under got it
Speaker 3: done while he was in the middle of his temper
Speaker 3: tantrum on Friday, I think he probably would have just
Speaker 3: shut up, conserve some energy and been like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'll take my penalty and I'm ready to go. You know,
Speaker 3: I think the scoring had caught a lot of people
Speaker 3: off guard today, him being one of them.
Speaker 4: The more challenging course conditions. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Also like, I don't know if it's a coincidence
Speaker 3: that the wind picked up and Bryson got shipped out
Speaker 3: to see that's the other thing.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the other thing. Now, the port Rush wind
Speaker 4: last year was so so for an open for port
Speaker 4: Rush and then it wasn't existent this week, And so
Speaker 4: we're like, he's cracked the code Links Golf, He's cracked
Speaker 4: the code. I think probably requires a little closer examination,
Speaker 4: I don't I Look, we've done a nightly podcast on Bryson.
Speaker 4: It feels like he's probably the biggest story or most
Speaker 4: memorable moment taken away from this. We given the comments
Speaker 4: around it. Is there some sort of longer tail where
Speaker 4: enforcement changes. Probably not on the PGA tour. I initially
Speaker 4: thought it was an odd choice to make him make
Speaker 4: to decide to you know, enforce the rule there. That
Speaker 4: was my surprise. I don't think it was necessarily ron
Speaker 4: to penalize him. The one thing I've thought about more
Speaker 4: as like, the two days have gone on and we
Speaker 4: did a podcast literally live as it was happening. We
Speaker 4: started it not knowing it was gonna happen at all.
Speaker 4: Is how kind of like picking back on it, how
Speaker 4: silly and like you bid, the whole show afterwards was.
Speaker 4: And that's just as the week has gone on. It's
Speaker 4: just like I had a lot of fun with it
Speaker 4: as someone who talks about this stuff and reading kvv's
Speaker 4: tweets from the scene, but it was just silly bullshit
Speaker 4: at the end of the day and not necessary. And
Speaker 4: you know, if he's a showman and that was a
Speaker 4: moment to put on a show, so be it. But
Speaker 4: that's that's sort of the thing that sunk in a
Speaker 4: little bit more of like that was really stupid. All
Speaker 4: that stuff afterwards doesn't mean it was harmful or wrong
Speaker 4: in any way. I just it felt like kind of stupid, It.
Speaker 3: Was silly, I think, like the whole antics of it.
Speaker 3: I think also the RNA though, was a piece of
Speaker 3: this too.
Speaker 4: Like what they do just.
Speaker 3: You know, entertaining it is you have just been like, hey,
Speaker 3: we're this is it, this is the deal. You know,
Speaker 3: you're you're being penalized, and like the fact they went
Speaker 3: back out there. I think like there's some like letting
Speaker 3: the player status case, the wording and the thing about accidental,
Speaker 3: which I think covers their bases like a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: if you also protect well, it protected Bryson, that's what
Speaker 3: it was. And I you know, it's like I don't
Speaker 3: think you have to, but if you don't put it
Speaker 3: in there, then people are going to be like, oh,
Speaker 3: Bryson's a cheater. And I think like what that the
Speaker 3: the the accidental wording was put in there because they
Speaker 3: know that this is a common occurrence occurrence in the
Speaker 3: game of golf, and that people do this all the time,
Speaker 3: and they did not want to put that stigma on Bryson. Now,
Speaker 3: like my my greater point was like at a certain
Speaker 3: point you need to you need to close the door
Speaker 3: and say hey, you're getting penalized. You can decide if
Speaker 3: you're playing tomorrow, but we're going to send out tea times.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the aftermath was a little giffee, and
Speaker 4: that's sort of the held hostage stuff. I talked to
Speaker 4: Patrick Read today on the record about it. He ended
Speaker 4: up saying he thought it was handled correctly in the end,
Speaker 4: so you just got to be really careful, just you know. Interesting.
Speaker 4: I thought he was very mature and wide ranging in
Speaker 4: his comments to me, but you know, obviously he's had
Speaker 4: to navigate that before. And I also asked, like a
Speaker 4: handful of people like hey, do you think this is
Speaker 4: like a big problem or not a big more prevalent
Speaker 4: and they don't seem to think it is players. I
Speaker 4: don't think that's a commonly held view that guys are
Speaker 4: are intentionally or unintentionally. And they would always say unintentional like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, you get so locked into your book, or
Speaker 4: you get locked into like looking around and you might
Speaker 4: unintentionally step behind, or you think I got that today,
Speaker 4: or you're you think you're playing one shot one way
Speaker 4: and you're all of a sudden you're changing directions and
Speaker 4: you you accidentally did something. So they would never say intentionally.
Speaker 4: But the reaction was, it's not really a problem as
Speaker 4: much as you think, as much as Twitter would say,
Speaker 4: as much as maybe we would say here, why do
Speaker 4: you think that is because they don't want to go across.
Speaker 3: Just protect it's politics, it's you know, locker room, and
Speaker 3: I think, like to a certain extent, you have to
Speaker 3: have the mentality of everybody's out there protecting the field
Speaker 3: just to deal with the mental strain of of golf.
Speaker 3: Like I think if you thought the worst of people,
Speaker 3: then your head would go places when you got there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think some differences o the professional golfers. You
Speaker 4: do this every single week. I just Scott I will
Speaker 4: say this for Scotty's point, he's the one who does
Speaker 4: seem to think it's a little bit more saying we
Speaker 4: need to be more strict in the way we're policing this.
Speaker 4: And maybe that's he just likes to use the word police,
Speaker 4: but he was somebody that said, like, we need to
Speaker 4: be more strict about how we're policing it. Well, while
Speaker 4: the others were like, that's not really a problem. Live manipulation,
Speaker 4: but this was certainly a big week for that. In
Speaker 4: a moment that will the reaction of it. Seeing the
Speaker 4: sort of circus act on Friday probably one of the
Speaker 4: big takeaways from Burkedal. It certainly added a lot of
Speaker 4: intrigue for us.
Speaker 3: I mean, it felt like the RNA said, we need
Speaker 3: to take this more seriously with their penalty, and I
Speaker 3: thought it, you know, all of a sudden, the way
Speaker 3: people maneuvered around the ball the rest of the weekend
Speaker 3: was a lot more like the way that they should
Speaker 3: maneuver around.
Speaker 5: A golf ball.
Speaker 4: Good on the RNA for standing up. And I don't
Speaker 4: think the other not necessarily a major or organization or
Speaker 4: tour would have the stones to do it when it's
Speaker 4: a star, even if he is controversial or maybe not
Speaker 4: loved beloved and the star is one shot off the lead.
Speaker 4: Uh So I do think we should applay, you know,
Speaker 4: applaud the stones to try and do it, whether you
Speaker 4: thought it was right or not.
Speaker 3: Anybody that you were today particularly disappointed with that we
Speaker 3: that we haven't talked about. I wasn't disappointed with Lucas Herbert,
Speaker 3: I wasn't disappointed with Ryan Girard. I wasn't necessarily disappointed
Speaker 3: with Sea Wou's fade on the back nine anyone, anyone
Speaker 3: that that that you didn't thought, didn't raise to the moment.
Speaker 4: It got harder. I would have loved to seeing a
Speaker 4: little bit more from Tommy Fleetwood. He shot sixty eight.
Speaker 4: I guess I can't say he like gagged, but that
Speaker 4: was just felt like another one where if you told
Speaker 4: them you know, you might have a chance coming down
Speaker 4: the stretch. He bogies ten and eleven. Those just you can't,
Speaker 4: I can't do that, like he gets in the mix
Speaker 4: and then immediately bogi's ten and eleven. I I found
Speaker 4: the Tommy story to be really compelling, and it sounds
Speaker 4: like they overdid that on the broadcast, maybe like too
Speaker 4: many interviews with Tommy. I thought listening to him was
Speaker 4: really powerful this week. I think you know Tommy for me.
Speaker 4: You know, they asked him Saturday, like have you thought
Speaker 4: about this or dreamt about I was like since I
Speaker 4: was seven years old, Like this is all, this is everything,
Speaker 4: this is all I've dreampt about, Like this is the best.
Speaker 4: And I think he walked out of here this week
Speaker 4: saying like I didn't win, and but this will be
Speaker 4: an experience, like these people are giving me more than
Speaker 4: I could ever ask for. You talk oftenly about often
Speaker 4: about how like for a lot of golfers, this is
Speaker 4: a job, right, and it's just like they don't necessarily
Speaker 4: like golf. I think, I think Tommy's pretty well balanced,
Speaker 4: Like we're all really lucky when like our profession is
Speaker 4: also our passion, right, Like I don't know if a
Speaker 4: ton of people are like super passionate about private equity
Speaker 4: or super passionate about accounting or stuff like that, but
Speaker 4: some golfers aren't balancing passion and profession anymore either. And
Speaker 4: I think for Tommy, like that's a pretty that vent
Speaker 4: diagram is a pretty close to a circle, Like he
Speaker 4: is passionate about this and this is super rewarding and
Speaker 4: gives a lot back to him, and he seems to
Speaker 4: have that perspective. He seems to have that like I
Speaker 4: love being a golfer, and I love the opportunity to
Speaker 4: just play here. I love the memory of being able
Speaker 4: to play here. And so I think he feels really
Speaker 4: like not too detached from having made so much money
Speaker 4: and having the life that he has, from being like
Speaker 4: feeling really really like passionate and fortunate to do this.
Speaker 4: And so that was one of the big takeaways I
Speaker 4: watched him roll into whatever sixty foot or ninety foot
Speaker 4: it depends on who you've read today at one, and
Speaker 4: it was super cool at the moment. I think, like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, the live stuff has just gotten so tedious, right,
Speaker 4: Like I just don't like money, I like don't care anymore.
Speaker 4: And I I think we've moved a little bit past
Speaker 4: that with like Rory winning the Masters last year, Aaron
Speaker 4: Ryes win, like Scottie's soliloquy last year about like why
Speaker 4: do I, like, I don't know why I do this,
Speaker 4: like why it's finding finding meaning and why I'm do
Speaker 4: this and why I want to win these so bad
Speaker 4: like totally just has nothing to do with the business
Speaker 4: of golf. And for me, that like really resonated with
Speaker 4: with with Tommy this week of someone who like I
Speaker 4: do this because I love it and I feel super
Speaker 4: fortunate to have these skills. And for me that's been
Speaker 4: like a notable moment at Majors where it's felt very
Speaker 4: different from all the other PGA Tour golf and kind
Speaker 4: of six years of tedium about one live to like
Speaker 4: how is the PGA Tour changing or restructuring? And so
Speaker 4: that was something like just listening to however, old man
Speaker 4: talk about like this is all I've ever dreamed about,
Speaker 4: and it's been the best to even just be here
Speaker 4: to realize this in any way, shape or form, this
Speaker 4: thing that I've thought about for thirty years. So anyways,
Speaker 4: that's my Tommy soliloquily, I suppose after watching him and
Speaker 4: listening to him for a lot, but just felt like
Speaker 4: he could have shown out a little harder on the
Speaker 4: back nine.
Speaker 3: Eh, it's hard. You got to hit the shots, and
Speaker 3: it was tough conditions, and you know, frankly, like sometimes
Speaker 3: you just don't have your A plus A plus game
Speaker 3: and I don't think he did. He did, and you
Speaker 3: know when when a major when you don't have it,
Speaker 3: you know, I think like too much is made of like, oh,
Speaker 3: you didn't show up when you know, I guess it
Speaker 3: is your game not showing up. But it's hard to
Speaker 3: just summon. It's not like you just summon your A
Speaker 3: game every week.
Speaker 4: And I think there is anybody, anybody for you be
Speaker 4: a house cat. How about Russ Henley.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you who I was disappointed most and was
Speaker 3: NBC Uh Tommy roy Uh. If I have to hear
Speaker 3: him call it described Tommy Roy again. I will, I will,
Speaker 3: I will use this Open Championship as my my my
Speaker 3: tape to to say, this is the the opposite of great.
Speaker 3: What a disaster this week's coverage was for US Americans.
Speaker 3: You know, I I know about the world Feed. I
Speaker 3: I feel like I was one of the people that
Speaker 3: tipped people off of the world Feed option years ago,
Speaker 3: and this week I was like, I'm just gonna stay
Speaker 3: committed to watching what everybody you know for the most
Speaker 3: part of podcast audience watches. This morning, I just couldn't
Speaker 3: do it again. I felt like I just had no
Speaker 3: feel of what was going on as commercial after commercial
Speaker 3: was jammed down my throat, and then like on top
Speaker 3: of it, like it's a terrible presentation. They were off
Speaker 3: on graphics, they were off on facts, they had an
Speaker 3: insane commercial load, and then on top of it, you
Speaker 3: just don't even get analysis is the other issue coming down?
Speaker 3: And I'll use this as an example. Coming down the stretch,
Speaker 3: see what Kim is squarely in the mix and I'm sixteen.
Speaker 3: He's playing from I think maybe just barely rolled into
Speaker 3: the short rough great angle. He's playing at his approach
Speaker 3: shot into sixteen, and that pins stuffed over on the
Speaker 3: right side of the green and he misses right, and
Speaker 3: he misses right, and they're like, oh, you missed right,
Speaker 3: and it's like that's it. And it's like, wait a second,
Speaker 3: this is one of the most impactful shots of the
Speaker 3: tournament right there. Could we get a little bit of
Speaker 3: analysis like that is the worst place he could have
Speaker 3: missed it. That was a horrible shot under the circumstances.
Speaker 3: That was a terrible shot and is likely going to
Speaker 3: cost him the tournament. And sure enough, he chips it
Speaker 3: to like twenty five feet and I can't remember which
Speaker 3: whether it was an even or an odd hole. I
Speaker 3: think it was an even it was an even hole,
Speaker 3: So I think it was Kissner because he was calling
Speaker 3: eighteen and he's just like, well, that was a tough
Speaker 3: spot he was he was in, and you know it
Speaker 3: wasn't that bad given where he was. Well, you're missed
Speaker 3: the whole setup of like he literally flushes, like he
Speaker 3: went for the pin and he and he missed in
Speaker 3: the exact wrong spot and he flushes tournament chances down
Speaker 3: the drain with that shot. That's what the discourse should be.
Speaker 3: So like my issue, my issue, I was texting with
Speaker 3: a friend about this and and I think like they
Speaker 3: summed it up really well. Is on top of just
Speaker 3: every the litany of things I listened before, the analysis
Speaker 3: is never anything. It's just they're just telling you what
Speaker 3: you're seeing. There's nothing else there. And that is my
Speaker 3: issue with NBC. I think this whole thing needs to
Speaker 3: be blown up. They've got like a lot of like
Speaker 3: I like a lot of people that work for them.
Speaker 3: I like Kevin Kistner, I like Bones, I like facts,
Speaker 3: like I like Smiley. I think they all but all
Speaker 3: of them together right now is not working and it's
Speaker 3: like doing it's a total disservice to golf fans. And
Speaker 3: it's like, look at the golf glow, like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: growing so much in all these areas. One of the
Speaker 3: reasons it's not growing, you know, at the same rate
Speaker 3: in terms of golf coverage, in terms of golf, is
Speaker 3: that this coverage, this was laughable. It was such an embarras,
Speaker 3: such an embarrassment, especially like when you compare it to
Speaker 3: like the way you get to watch soccer, where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: like I just like this is like uninterrupted for like
Speaker 3: thirty minutes. I know you was tracking this. There were
Speaker 3: six commercial breaks in the last hour in the in
Speaker 3: the for in thirty three minutes as they were coming
Speaker 3: down the stretch. Six commercial breaks in thirty three minutes.
Speaker 3: It was like two shots commercial. It was just Mickey
Speaker 3: Mouse crap.
Speaker 4: Well I had a blast on the ground. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: bet I saw it. I would say, you're not really
Speaker 4: You're not really the boy who cried wolf on the
Speaker 4: coverage stuff.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I would say, you get worked up occasionally, but very rarely.
Speaker 4: Are you like declarative and use big words like disaster,
Speaker 4: embarrassment things like that. I saw a few of your tweets.
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, it must be pretty bad if
Speaker 4: Andy's like going to public with that kind of language,
Speaker 4: because you save it for when it is bad. I
Speaker 4: I find that really befuddling. I think they're towards the
Speaker 4: end of a rights deal here. I know the Open
Speaker 4: cares a lot about how it's presented in America right now.
Speaker 4: I think they're sort of befuddled. They're flabbergasted that it's
Speaker 4: not it needs to be elevated more in America.
Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like real commercial loads unbearable, and then on
Speaker 3: top of that, the analysis is just so it says, like,
Speaker 3: I get not wanting to speak over people. I get
Speaker 3: the idea of golf's a tough, but like you have
Speaker 3: to give people that are watching something that they say,
Speaker 3: you know what, I didn't really know that, Like I
Speaker 3: didn't know that, and that's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that sucks because it's like really one of
Speaker 4: the best majors. It's such a fun major to consume
Speaker 4: on television and in person. And so I don't know,
Speaker 4: Mark Darbin's a new chief. I I think their rights
Speaker 4: are coming up in a couple of years. I know
Speaker 4: there are some constraints about World feed, but like that's
Speaker 4: you can still choose the commercials. You got to take
Speaker 4: the commercials when you know that that's a decision, business decision.
Speaker 4: And that sounds super frustrating to watch for an event
Speaker 4: that's so beloved by the golf fans. Golf nuts, right,
Speaker 4: what's insane to me? People in the boat already?
Speaker 3: What's insane to me as someone who consumes way too
Speaker 3: much of the Open every year? You know, not way
Speaker 3: too much. I love watching it four in the morning though,
Speaker 3: watching but like you know, the telecast gets worse the
Speaker 3: more the crew gets elevated with this tournament, like Sam
Speaker 3: Torrence is amazing in the morning, in the early hours
Speaker 3: of the morning, Furick was great. I think like one
Speaker 3: of the issues, one of their big issues is that
Speaker 3: they have way.
Speaker 8: Too many guys, way too many guys, way like this,
Speaker 8: every other whole thing does not work at all. There's
Speaker 8: no continuity, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: Like I I think it's actually insane the more I
Speaker 3: think about the every other hole, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's announced, it.
Speaker 3: Shoot somebody off into the sun. But this was supposed
Speaker 3: to be some great innovation, like they released this, like
Speaker 3: this was some amazing innovative, innovative idea. Like can I
Speaker 3: just make a comparison. Imagine if you were watching a
Speaker 3: fucking basketball game or a football game and they switched
Speaker 3: announcers every quarter and the other announcer didn't watch the
Speaker 3: first quarter and they were trying to call the game.
Speaker 9: This is the most idiotic, on the face decision ever.
Speaker 9: And I can't believe that we're like three years into this.
Speaker 9: It's a disaster. It's awful. It's awful, and I I like,
Speaker 9: this is the thing.
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not. I don't think any of the
Speaker 3: personal at NBC are to blame. It's the people that
Speaker 3: are running this, they're putting them out there, that just
Speaker 3: put them out there to look like a bunch of idiots.
Speaker 2: It's like, who would ever construct the idea that you're
Speaker 2: gonna watch half the holes but not sequential order, and
Speaker 2: you're gonna watch the other half of.
Speaker 3: The holes, and and that's the way it's gonna work.
Speaker 4: This is the this is the arrangement where just for
Speaker 4: clearic Hicks and Kissner called the evens.
Speaker 3: Max.
Speaker 4: It's just insane. It's been that way. It just seems crazy.
Speaker 4: Maybe try I think Pinehurst was the first one. I
Speaker 4: don't know, it just I've always wondered, like when did
Speaker 4: they cut, Like when does it flip when the guy
Speaker 4: like crosses the T box, are you now in his
Speaker 4: possession of that call because now he's on an odd
Speaker 4: Like there's.
Speaker 3: No it would work if any sport, if eddy sport
Speaker 3: sequentially happened in a vacuum. But the key to all
Speaker 3: sports is tying the threads between all these moments that
Speaker 3: happened throughout the.
Speaker 4: Game narrative arc.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you decide between Faxon or Kissner, which
Speaker 3: it seems like they can't decide between facxin or Kissner
Speaker 3: then like you might the baby aside and you're not
Speaker 3: the guy for the job because both of them look
Speaker 3: worse because of the situation you're putting them in well.
Speaker 4: And now it's compounded by the issue that Golf Channel
Speaker 4: is no longer the same company, just as NBC. Just
Speaker 4: the golf presentations compounded.
Speaker 3: McGinley comes in too.
Speaker 4: I forgot the facts and can't get I don't think,
Speaker 4: and there faxon and Kissner can't work the start of
Speaker 4: the week. It's just, yeah, it's compounded by that fure
Speaker 4: I think can only do Golf Channel. I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's NBC, but like they're different companies. Now you're
Speaker 4: in there too, he's Golf, yeah, and he's just golf.
Speaker 4: Like I can't for there are two walls. So I
Speaker 4: didn't watch any of it. So I thought it was
Speaker 4: perfectly fine. I have no criticism whatsoever. I love NBC
Speaker 4: or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Peacock actually became the thing to do online. It was like,
Speaker 3: I mean, like people world tell you that people that
Speaker 3: are literally work in broadcast, we're online suggesting everybody go
Speaker 3: to Peacock and turn on Sky Sports if you if
Speaker 3: you don't like the coloring of the golf course was
Speaker 3: different the I mean, it's insane. It's honestly insane. I
Speaker 3: found it insane that on Sunday morning of the Open Championship,
Speaker 3: the last day of major championship golf in America or
Speaker 3: across the world, and in America, the rights partner, like literally,
Speaker 3: people are suggesting go watch Sky Sports feed because it's
Speaker 3: available on peacock. That was the suggestion. Also, storyline, nobody's
Speaker 3: talking about tweeting through it while we're on broadcasts. I
Speaker 3: love the kissener. Kissener's out there on Twitter. It beftweet
Speaker 3: his breaks. Maybe when they're on odd or on odd holes.
Speaker 3: He's out there tweeting at people odd holes.
Speaker 4: Well, that's maybe he's got an odd hole situation. You
Speaker 4: can go to Twitter.
Speaker 3: We're through all the playing throughs. Well, he's putting the
Speaker 3: caption here, tweeting through it while we're playing through. Tweeted
Speaker 3: it was tweeting through it for a Kistener.
Speaker 4: That's good. Any other storylines do you have.
Speaker 3: Any di miss anything with the broadcast?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: No, I think you summed it up pretty good today.
Speaker 6: I mean it was I much like you. I was
Speaker 6: just watching mb see because I wanted to be aware
Speaker 6: of what the discourse was. I didn't want to miss anything.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah it was. There was a lot going on today,
Speaker 6: not a lot of it good.
Speaker 4: Seems bad, Peach, what do you think about Cameron Yon.
Speaker 4: Were you believing on the front nine? Were you believing
Speaker 4: then when nobody could get.
Speaker 6: To Yeah, I just figured we would push this to
Speaker 6: Wednesday or whatever. Yeah, I was believing certainly on the
Speaker 6: front nine. I was like really believing the miss on ten.
Speaker 6: There was a handful of missed putts that, obviously in
Speaker 6: a one shot deficit, would have been the difference. I
Speaker 6: think the miss on ten really that one, That one
Speaker 6: was important at the end of the day to kind
Speaker 6: of keep the momentum going because it kind of stalled
Speaker 6: out a little bit from there. But uh yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean great, great, great effort, great run.
Speaker 7: I think it's easy.
Speaker 6: To point oh, we worried forty on the back nine yesterday,
Speaker 6: Easy to point that out at this moment in time,
Speaker 6: But you know, made made an effort, Unlike if I
Speaker 6: could just like gesture broadly at most of the rest
Speaker 6: of the leader board. Making an effort, I think is
Speaker 6: a win of itself today. Am I worried, like, I mean.
Speaker 4: Really good at being three and second I was gonna say.
Speaker 6: I said to Andy, I said, what if it just
Speaker 6: doesn't happen? And he piles up a lot of two
Speaker 6: threes and fours like I mean it's possible.
Speaker 4: I don't it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I hate to do this. I
Speaker 3: hate to be cheeky here, but honestly, the way the
Speaker 3: major played out, it was like a like a like
Speaker 3: a clever fox stealing stealing the the prize.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of coming right in.
Speaker 3: There. Then that is his best play at the end
Speaker 3: and deserved it, like undoubtedly.
Speaker 4: Well, everybody was shouting about Bryson and then Scotty's drop
Speaker 4: and then he just kind of sneaks in.
Speaker 3: Like a fox and our text threat. I thought the
Speaker 3: camp's decision on eighteen in the moment was really bad.
Speaker 6: I was surprised by it, especially when like the last
Speaker 6: thing they laid out, Smiley laid out, and the last
Speaker 6: thing you could hear Camp say was I just have
Speaker 6: to make sure I get this over the lip and
Speaker 6: then just immediately getting matumboed was like pretty bad.
Speaker 7: I think it was.
Speaker 6: I think it was just a mishit more than a
Speaker 6: bad decision per se. But I think if you tell
Speaker 6: him that ten wins or gets in a playoff, like
Speaker 6: maybe doesn't happen. Differently, he said he would hit driver
Speaker 6: again in the playoff.
Speaker 3: So I don't have an issue with the driver. I
Speaker 3: have an issue with you know that number one rules,
Speaker 3: Like number one you get out of the bunker. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And at that moment, I just felt like, if you
Speaker 3: get that thing up to the front of the green,
Speaker 3: you're getting up and down, and that's what that's what
Speaker 3: you know. I don't know. I And there's the whole
Speaker 3: other theory of like if he gets to ten, I
Speaker 3: don't know, if Fox gets to ten, yeah.
Speaker 4: We're needing a birdie on eighteen to tie.
Speaker 3: A birdie or like it's just like what you to
Speaker 3: feel like you have to put your foot on the gas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like the number being nine made it so much more
Speaker 3: attainable for all those guys that were chasing like Burns,
Speaker 3: like you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Burns.
Speaker 6: I mean I felt like he was just like mentally
Speaker 6: I had just ruled him out for most of the
Speaker 6: back nine and then you look up and it's like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's only really one shot. He has to get and
Speaker 6: he just couldn't end up doing it. But I yeah,
Speaker 6: I think being in the house at ten would have
Speaker 6: made like a big difference. It kept all of these
Speaker 6: guys in punching distance. And again Fox, he went out
Speaker 6: and took like that.
Speaker 4: Can I you know, I think it wasn't a yeah,
Speaker 4: it wasn't a great day for Burns. I think on
Speaker 4: equivocally the biggest loser of the weekend is Bryson, though,
Speaker 4: don't you think I think the way he played I
Speaker 4: think after the show maybe in his mind are aren't
Speaker 4: you like disappointed with how he played this, especially on
Speaker 4: Sunday text dread.
Speaker 6: I think Joseph nailed it. I think he ran out
Speaker 6: of gas. I think he was I think he was
Speaker 6: on empty today. I didn't think he had a chance.
Speaker 4: I just he was a non factor. And he might
Speaker 4: probably be the most memorable moment from this major and
Speaker 4: the most talked about in his cultural moment. But I
Speaker 4: thought he was a housecat all weekend after doing the
Speaker 4: show on Friday night, which is pretty disappointing. And I
Speaker 4: could trast it with what I just said about Tommy.
Speaker 4: He just feels like the opposite of all that of
Speaker 4: like be like being genuinely like, yeah, just leaving it
Speaker 4: at that genuine and super moved and appreciative. It just
Speaker 4: feels like a manufactured show. And he didn't show up.
Speaker 4: I thought, when you talk about this.
Speaker 3: Player, he writes the story though he hasn't shown up
Speaker 3: on the weekend since since uh since.
Speaker 4: Pinehurst, whether you like him or not, that was like
Speaker 4: a failure of a weekend coming back with the sixty
Speaker 4: nine pretty strong Saturday.
Speaker 3: But I really just think the difference the difference between
Speaker 3: like being extremely competitively sharp and not being sharp, like
Speaker 3: at this level, at the highest level in the game.
Speaker 3: The difference between sharpness is how you put together four rounds.
Speaker 3: Sam Burns's sharpest. Shit, you know, he put together a turn.
Speaker 3: Yeah he finished fell short, oh, but he put together
Speaker 3: a tournament. Bryson didn't put together four rounds, and that's
Speaker 3: to be expected for somebody that doesn't really play competitive golf. Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can play. You can play two good rounds, two
Speaker 3: and a half good rounds, three, I think even he
Speaker 3: played three good rounds. But to win a major, you
Speaker 3: have to play four really good rounds of golf. That's
Speaker 3: what Ryan Fox did to an extent. Cameron Young had
Speaker 3: one bad nine holes, which is like what you can
Speaker 3: have and win a major is legitimately you can play
Speaker 3: one bad nine and that's usually like you could. You
Speaker 3: could go down the list of like, okay, somebody played
Speaker 3: nine bad holes. They had a four hole stretch that
Speaker 3: killed him. Cameron Young's Saturday afternoon is gonna be the
Speaker 3: thing that he lows more than anything, more than a
Speaker 3: shot on eighteen. It's gonna be the thing that he
Speaker 3: looks back and it's gonna kill him. But for Bryson,
Speaker 3: he just did not get off the bus today at all,
Speaker 3: and he played a bad round and you're not gonna win.
Speaker 3: You're not going to win anything playing your worst round
Speaker 3: on Sunday generally.
Speaker 4: If you want to be the center of attention, and
Speaker 4: maybe like he wants to be the center of attention
Speaker 4: in other ways, and that's it. I just it feels
Speaker 4: like a guy got the bus if you want to
Speaker 4: be the center of attention. I'm not trying to like
Speaker 4: take shots at him, But.
Speaker 3: Back to Cameron Young, do you know how manors and
Speaker 3: majors he has.
Speaker 4: Now at least like four? I want to say, what
Speaker 4: is it five?
Speaker 7: And I think it's five.
Speaker 3: He's got five, five top fours, obviously, tons of close calls. Third,
Speaker 3: I think this is third top four and open, No,
Speaker 3: the second course, second runner up at the Open, so.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, he's gonna get across the line in one
Speaker 3: of these things. Do we want to run through storylines?
Speaker 3: Nobody's talking about what's left?
Speaker 7: What do we have a handful? This one. I take
Speaker 7: exception to you calling him a house cat.
Speaker 6: He went out Russell Henley earned that yellow square today,
Speaker 6: yellow school bus. Henley make sure everyone gets home safely
Speaker 6: with a Wikipedia T nine. He earned that thing. Man
Speaker 6: really put the pedal to the medal and the bus today,
Speaker 6: making all the stops earned.
Speaker 3: I was on the eighth green looking at the scoreboard
Speaker 3: with the fellow journalist and I saw Henley come into
Speaker 3: like top five or he's like six or something, and
Speaker 3: we just started laughing, like, well, he's there, but he's
Speaker 3: not gonna win.
Speaker 4: Uh, yellow square. But never never worried about.
Speaker 3: It, Happy trails. Bryson heads home in high spirits after
Speaker 3: consecutive top fifteens in the Open. Nobody's talking about, Hey,
Speaker 3: prin of this guy has played two good opens in
Speaker 3: a row. No, that's not the story we're leaving with.
Speaker 4: Huh you take that form to JCB or whatever Live
Speaker 4: UK next week.
Speaker 3: Up next, Prepare the Shield. This was a huge week
Speaker 3: for the Peak Cup, huge week for the international squad.
Speaker 3: Eight international eligible players in the top fourteen of the
Speaker 3: Open Tom Kim wins last week. Are we heading? Is
Speaker 3: this like how well the Europeans were playing ahead of
Speaker 3: last year's Ryder Cup. Brendan, what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 4: They've got a lot of guys doing well. I mean
Speaker 4: there've been years where this has happened and then they
Speaker 4: get boat raced, molly wopped or whatever at the at
Speaker 4: the when the matches come around. I asked Brendan Deyon
Speaker 4: if Richard Sterney should be on the team, his former
Speaker 4: teammate at Mirefield Village twenty thirteen. He looked at me
Speaker 4: curiously and said, no. I mean you guys go back right,
Speaker 4: you were teammate. He won this year because he's done
Speaker 4: anything else. It's like, I'm not sure, but he won,
Speaker 4: so that he should the team, right?
Speaker 7: Yes, I think he's auto. He has the auto quality.
Speaker 4: For winning a major. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Foxy, the fastest fan alive, Renato Paratory. I
Speaker 3: love that, called out and Fox's interview after the round
Speaker 3: about the only player that he's ever played with his
Speaker 3: faster face of play wise than him. I'd I'd love,
Speaker 3: I'd love. You know, what would be a dream? Just
Speaker 3: like a fever dream, Ryan Fox and Renato Parritory finish,
Speaker 3: like make the cut on the number and are out
Speaker 3: first in a major championship, and it's like Saturday morning
Speaker 3: at Augusta and you can go loop the whole course,
Speaker 3: know exactly what's going on in two forty you know,
Speaker 3: with those two.
Speaker 4: I'm happy for Ronado Parato getting the positive moment in
Speaker 4: the sun and the last men's major of the year.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the reverse window. Clark is stamping
Speaker 4: down behind the ball, like why are you dragging me
Speaker 4: into this? The opposite parator getting his well.
Speaker 3: You said, a moment in the sun that brings us
Speaker 3: to the Duel of the Sun. Jordan Smith blows out
Speaker 3: Shortan Smith in their annual Battle from the Top.
Speaker 4: Jordan's seems like blowout, seems like Smith is no longer
Speaker 4: going to Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Well that right here, de committed. Jordan Smith will have
Speaker 3: play the three m after committing earlier in the year.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's like a month ago, a week ago. It
Speaker 4: wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3: I think he's making any changes. I brought this up
Speaker 3: on Friday. Friday I was listening. I don't, but it's
Speaker 3: just rare in golf. You go from the very best
Speaker 3: player in the world to eight years of sort of meh,
Speaker 3: and not change a coach, caddy, anybody, agent anything. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying these and his people are bad. It's just
Speaker 3: that would be a trend that happens. So I don't
Speaker 3: think he's changed anything. It seems really loyal.
Speaker 4: Uh, good storylines. Nobody's talking about everybody's We're out of
Speaker 4: the three. I'm open.
Speaker 3: Hey Peach, did you tally gay both of the game?
Speaker 7: I didn't. We'll do that for Wednesday, all right.
Speaker 4: Any other party shots. This has been a great men's
Speaker 4: major year. We have fun doing these live shows. Well,
Speaker 4: great to be here.
Speaker 3: You'll be off off the next one because you're traveling
Speaker 3: back from abroad. I assume.
Speaker 4: I'm traveling Wednesday. Well, I think we're going.
Speaker 3: Live Wednesday, same morning. Me Me, peaj and Joseph, me
Speaker 3: and the boys.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so we're just we're lending you know now
Speaker 3: on air.
Speaker 4: Why aren't recording Tuesday?
Speaker 3: Just obligacious? Maybe Tuesday, maybe a Tuesday whatever.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard about this, all right, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4: It's been a great Men's Major Major year. I really
Speaker 4: enjoy enjoyed doing it again, my eighth year doing these
Speaker 4: on shotguns start twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Here's of dailies. I text you, I don't think I'm
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