WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Stares at OLEDs

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com. Hey there, welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer

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<v Speaker 1>with How Stuff Works, and I heart radio and I

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<v Speaker 1>love all things tech. And now I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you a little bit about classic episode, an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of tech Stuff that we published way back on March

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and twelve called tech Stuff Stairs at O LEDs,

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<v Speaker 1>O L E d S. Chris Palette and I sat

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<v Speaker 1>down to talk about what are O LEDs, how do

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<v Speaker 1>they work, and why are they important? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny to listen to this older episode because when

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<v Speaker 1>we were recording it back in two thousand twelve, oh

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<v Speaker 1>LED screens were still very much in that R and

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<v Speaker 1>D kind of prototype stage. You didn't really see them

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<v Speaker 1>in very many consumer products. And these days where you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them and all sorts of stuff from smartphone too, tablets,

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<v Speaker 1>to laptop computers to television sets. So it's neat to

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<v Speaker 1>see how things have changed. Enjoy this classic episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>think by when I first started at How Stuff Works,

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<v Speaker 1>oh lads, we're still very very much in the prototype stage,

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't really see anything on the market at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, the consumer market anyway, they had an O

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<v Speaker 1>LEDs type screen and now they're much later in the

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<v Speaker 1>prototype stage. But we're kidding the lads. Actually, now we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the point where we're finally seeing them scaled

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<v Speaker 1>up to large screen TVs. But for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest screen you're gonna get with something like eleven Yeah. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the genesis of my joke being that people who are

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<v Speaker 1>really interested in OLED technology have been waiting for them

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<v Speaker 1>to come out for a very long time, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they're they've been in development of some kind

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<v Speaker 1>for a for a long long time. They've been actually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty common in smaller screens like smartphones, rins for example. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're really great for that. They use less energy

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<v Speaker 1>than a lot of the other technologies and they're excellent

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<v Speaker 1>for that. But that's you know, getting them scaled up

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<v Speaker 1>has taken a long time, and the people who have

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting, I'm gonna buy an old TV like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wouldn't hold my breath. Well, but finally

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<v Speaker 1>they're starting to hit now. But and and also the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing people have been waiting for, and it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the types we'll talk about in a little a

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<v Speaker 1>little further in in the podcast is the flexible oh lady,

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<v Speaker 1>that idea of having a display that is actually malleable,

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<v Speaker 1>that you can bend it around things. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might use that to have a foldable display. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of people talk about. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>other things you could use it for, Like you could

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<v Speaker 1>use it in displays. Stay in a store where you've

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<v Speaker 1>got round columns and you could have a display wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>around this round column. Uh yeah, things like that. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's uh, and that's the thing about it. I think, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that it's taken a while to get

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<v Speaker 1>law er oh lad screens, the technology will be worth

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<v Speaker 1>the way. But I think it's uh. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is a good idea to go ahead and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the similarities. And there I think three major similarities between

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<v Speaker 1>the technologies red, green, and blue light. Well, the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of all all the technologies we're talking about here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>plasma l C D and uh you know the oh

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<v Speaker 1>lads or l E D screens and organic l E

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<v Speaker 1>D screens. Um, you know, it's it's to display information

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<v Speaker 1>and it shows us light. Um. The trick is really

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<v Speaker 1>how they go about doing that. And we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other technologies in the past, like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>plasma uses uh gases ionized gas, and basically you they

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<v Speaker 1>show the different colors by running a charge through the

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<v Speaker 1>gas and then look like l c D uses liquid crystals,

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<v Speaker 1>and these liquid crystals actually form a barrier between light

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<v Speaker 1>and the clear part of the screen, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>l c D these through various running an electric current

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<v Speaker 1>through change shape and that allows light to pass through

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<v Speaker 1>and there's some color filters in there and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>we get the displays through that. So that's a liquid

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<v Speaker 1>crystal display. L E d s are light emitting diodes

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had those around for for quite some time

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<v Speaker 1>and they're pretty efficient. They're more efficient than a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other forms of lighting. But an O l e D,

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<v Speaker 1>as Chris had mentioned, is an organic light emitting diode.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might think, well, what how that huh, And

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<v Speaker 1>it really comes down to uh kind of a an

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<v Speaker 1>organic sandwich. Yes, And the thing is, uh, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>terribly different from from the typical l E d s,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it really comes down to the materials used

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<v Speaker 1>to make that sandwich. So they're they're they're very thin, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So an O L D it's it's solid state, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it is usually between one to five hundred natomie

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<v Speaker 1>eaters thick, which is pretty thin. That's according to UH

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<v Speaker 1>to most estimates. And this does change from one source

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<v Speaker 1>to another, but it's about two hundred times thinner than

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<v Speaker 1>a human hair in diameter. Now, human hair is actually

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<v Speaker 1>come into a variety of diameters. It's like one person's

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<v Speaker 1>hair might be thinner than another's. Some people have clear

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<v Speaker 1>hair like me, My hair is invisible to the human eye.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, at any rate, the two hundred it's an average,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's two hundred times smaller than the diameter of

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<v Speaker 1>human hair. And uh, it's they're different layers within this sandwich, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what is creating the light that you see.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's the basics the the bread on this sandwich,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, is our pair of electrodes. Right, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got your cathode and you've got your technically, you also

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<v Speaker 1>have the substrate. This substrate is the foundation that the

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<v Speaker 1>O LED sits upon. So substrate is also part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking mostly at the components that actually make

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<v Speaker 1>the lad work. Right, So, yeah, you've got the cathode

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<v Speaker 1>and the anode, and you've got the jobs of the

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<v Speaker 1>cathode and the anode are to create a circuit for

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<v Speaker 1>electricity to flow through, right, right, The electrons flow from

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<v Speaker 1>one to the other. Yea, from the cathode to the anode.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a way you have to kind of think

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<v Speaker 1>of this in uh interesting terms, like, so, cathode is

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<v Speaker 1>injecting negative particles into this o led sandwich. Are you positive? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am positive that they are negative electrons, is what

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<v Speaker 1>cathodes are putting into their The anode is creating, well

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<v Speaker 1>what we call them electron holes. They're positive. It's they

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<v Speaker 1>turn an element to a positively charged element. They actually

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<v Speaker 1>pull electrons out of it, and so now it's positively charged.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means that the electrons coming from the cathode

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<v Speaker 1>are attracted towards the anno side. Hey, you're pretty cute.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it has to pass through the other layers

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<v Speaker 1>of the sandwich. And there are two or three other layers,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the type of oh ledge you're looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>but really the two layer is the most common, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just stick with that. So you've got your emissive layer,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the layer that actually emits light, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have your conductive layer, which is the layer that attracts

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons through the other materials. So if we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at top to bottom and the bottom is the substrate,

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<v Speaker 1>then the top layer is your cathode. Next down you

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<v Speaker 1>have your emissive layer, that's where the light comes through.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have your conductive layer that's what's pulling the

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<v Speaker 1>electrons down. Then you have the annode layer. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>really pulling the electrons down. It's what's allowing the conductive

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<v Speaker 1>layer to pull these electrons through. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the substrate. So, uh, why are we getting light? Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>This this gets into some interesting physics here. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the electrons coming through from one side, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the electron holes coming through from the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>So in a way, you can think of negative charge

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<v Speaker 1>and positive charge. I know that sounds weird, but just

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<v Speaker 1>go with me here. And when those two meet, the

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<v Speaker 1>molecule that they meet at becomes uh, actually drops an

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<v Speaker 1>electron into that positive hole, and as a result, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a difference in energy. It releases some energy as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of that that reaction, and that energy is

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<v Speaker 1>released in the form of a photon. And we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before about how if you excite an atom,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by telling you it's going to dine world

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and the electrons moved to a higher energy state.

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<v Speaker 1>When those electrons move back down, once that energy has

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<v Speaker 1>has been removed from the system, once the electrons move

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<v Speaker 1>back down, they have to release that extra energy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they often will do this in the form of photons,

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<v Speaker 1>which we perceive as light. That's exactly what's going on here. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a great video on this uh M my

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<v Speaker 1>t S site where a professor was explaining how oh

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<v Speaker 1>LED's work by shocking the heck out of a pickle.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a had a cathode and an anode um

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<v Speaker 1>attached to a pickle and was running a very high

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<v Speaker 1>electric current through it, which was making the pickle glow.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was this is what was happening. You had

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<v Speaker 1>the positive charge in the negative charge meeting and the

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<v Speaker 1>molecules where it met at that's where it was releasing

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<v Speaker 1>this electron and uh and and releasing a photon or

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<v Speaker 1>or it was the electron states were moving down and

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<v Speaker 1>the photons were being released, and that's why we were

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<v Speaker 1>getting light. Um pretty cool. Actually, I kind of wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to build one, except for the fact that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably electric you myself. For a second there,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were girk in my chain. Ha ha. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so when we're talking about electricity, we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. It said, these are pretty efficient, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking in a realm of just a few volts that

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<v Speaker 1>are needed in order to excite these molecules so that

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<v Speaker 1>they emit light. That's one of the major benefits of

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<v Speaker 1>old screens is that they don't require as much electricity

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<v Speaker 1>as some others. You know. Of course, plasma TVs are

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<v Speaker 1>are notorious for using a lot of electricity. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep pouring in electricity to keep that gas ionized.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, plasma display is not They've gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better last few years, but is it is, by its

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<v Speaker 1>very nature, is not the most environmentally friendly way of

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<v Speaker 1>creating television. Not that TV is terribly environmentally friendly no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how you do it, but but it's it's less

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, plasma has a reputation for being for being

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<v Speaker 1>less energy friendly. So yeah, there there there have been

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<v Speaker 1>some better ones, but still uh and those two different

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<v Speaker 1>layers of molecules are are are organic, but they're organic

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<v Speaker 1>plastic thick. It's pretty cool organic plastic like poly aniline

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<v Speaker 1>and polyfluorine. Okay, all right, you know Pollyanna, you know

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you say we're organic plastic, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of sounds like it's oxymoronic, like you know organ chuah

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<v Speaker 1>wa um. Well that that's actually UM. We should talk

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<v Speaker 1>about to the different types of OH leads because there

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<v Speaker 1>are r G B OH lead screens and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the white lead screen UM, which sort of uses a

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<v Speaker 1>color sandwich to UM, and by by activating red, green,

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<v Speaker 1>and blue, you get white UM. And uh. You know

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<v Speaker 1>those the red, green and blue are are pressed together

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<v Speaker 1>in the same pixel. So by doing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the have basically a pure white UM

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it. It works a little slightly differently than

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<v Speaker 1>than the others simply because of at UM. There are

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<v Speaker 1>people say that it has a longer life than the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional O lead screens UM, but that is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the advantages of it UM. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>also possible to uh to scale the white OH lead

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<v Speaker 1>screens up a little easier from what I understand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also been talked about as a potential replacement for

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<v Speaker 1>things like fluorescent lights, where not just for displays, but

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<v Speaker 1>for actual lighting, because that's it's even more efficient than

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<v Speaker 1>fluorescent lighting is. And uh, you know you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that mercury that you gotta worry about in fluorescent lights. Yeah. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have those little fluorescent bulbs, which are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more energy efficient incandescent bulbs will good on you, but

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<v Speaker 1>be very careful with them, yes, because those suckers do

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<v Speaker 1>contain some very toxic chemicals in them that can be

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous. Yes, you do not want to bust them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the O lead lights might be a nice alternative

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<v Speaker 1>to that, you know, if if it's efficient enough so

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<v Speaker 1>that they make economic sense to the consumer, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta worry about that, uh, and also the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't have these toxic chemicals necessarily inside them.

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<v Speaker 1>If they are just as efficient or more so, then

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<v Speaker 1>makes perfect sense to go and switch to a We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get back to our discussion about how oh LEDs

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<v Speaker 1>work and what they are all about in just a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but first let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>There are actually several different types of oh LAD screens

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<v Speaker 1>just LAD displays. We talked about the foldable oh LEDs. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these are using a substrate that is flexible. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your typical substrate. When I think of substrate, I think

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<v Speaker 1>of something that is that is, you know, pretty solid,

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<v Speaker 1>or sometimes it can be a little brittle or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't bend. It's not bendi bendy. Right. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The the idea being that you're going to build your

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<v Speaker 1>circuit material on top of this material. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you're this it's a board, so you you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to add the stuff to it, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Usually you want something that's fairly solid, although you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously for other applications you would need something that's flexible.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say that you want to create a display on

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<v Speaker 1>say a jacket, which might very well be something not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily that the consumer would ever see. But let's say

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<v Speaker 1>an advertising company creates this, uh, this type of of

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<v Speaker 1>jacket that can have a flexible screen on the back

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and then next thing you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this new way for at trade shows where people can

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<v Speaker 1>show off cool technology and it's literally playing on their backs. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could even imagine it going so far

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<v Speaker 1>as to let's say you've got a courier service and

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<v Speaker 1>you are sponsored, they run ads on your back as

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<v Speaker 1>you you're a bike courier. I look forward to seeing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to seeing all the accidents that will

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<v Speaker 1>happen as result people turning their heads to see what

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. Yeah, they're like, I want to follow this

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<v Speaker 1>guy another mile. I have to see how this turns out.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly that if you did that, you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>make very visually stunning types of ads that don't need

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<v Speaker 1>any audio. That would be that would be the real

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<v Speaker 1>challenge there. Look, I'm just trying. I'm just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to create some jobs out there. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. Okay, But you also have you have

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<v Speaker 1>your passive matrix oh LED. Now passive matrix, oh lads.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we talked about the cathodes and the anodes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not necessarily a sheet on top of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I said sandwich, it sounds like you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>solid sheet. That's not necessarily the case, although that can

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<v Speaker 1>be done a passive matrix oh LED. What it does

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<v Speaker 1>is it arranges the cathodes and anodes into strips, and

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<v Speaker 1>one sets strips are vertical and the other sets strips

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<v Speaker 1>are horizontal. So you could think of it like all

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<v Speaker 1>the anodes are streets and all the cathodes are avenues.

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<v Speaker 1>So at these intersections where the cathode and and O

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<v Speaker 1>meat that's where you have your pixels and your pixels

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<v Speaker 1>of course, that's the point of light. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how many pixels the display has, as so

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<v Speaker 1>many points of light it is capable of displaying at

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<v Speaker 1>one time more than that, it would be a very

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<v Speaker 1>low resolution television. Uh. The so this is one way

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<v Speaker 1>of doing that where you have the just at the

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<v Speaker 1>intersections of these strips, that's where the pixels are uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Not terribly efficient compared to other oh leads and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and also for all of these screens, if you're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>about controlling brightness, that's a function of how much electricity

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<v Speaker 1>is flowing through the system. If you're pouring more juice

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<v Speaker 1>into it, it's gonna be brighter less juice not as bright,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes sense. Next, we have the active matrix OH

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<v Speaker 1>lead and this has a full sheet of the cathode

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's sort of like the sandwich example I

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<v Speaker 1>was giving earlier. So in this case, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>film transistor that is uh gotta. It's an anode layer overlay,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what forms the matrix. Uh not the kind

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<v Speaker 1>that NEO goes through with all the zeros and ones,

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<v Speaker 1>but this in the it forms the same feature as

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<v Speaker 1>the intersections on the passive matrix. OH lead, tank, I

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<v Speaker 1>eat an exit. Oh gosh, wow, out of all of those,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm surprised you didn't say I know kung

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<v Speaker 1>fu or just whoa uh you got your transparent oh lads.

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<v Speaker 1>Now these are really super cool. Like everything every single

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<v Speaker 1>element in this oh lead is transparent. So when light

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<v Speaker 1>is uh is flowing through this system, then you see

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<v Speaker 1>it projected within a clear screen, and when it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just look through the screen. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>used in things like heads up displays, so you know

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>you're flying exactly flying a plane, driving a car or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got a heads up display that can show

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<v Speaker 1>within the uh the windscreen or or cockpit screen or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>that is very likely a transparent oh lad. I've also

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<v Speaker 1>seen this used in smart Windows, which was something new.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I had heard about smart windows before, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first time I had seen one was

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<v Speaker 1>at CS where I think it was Samsung that had it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where it's a smart window. What that could display information

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<v Speaker 1>and it could do things that give you like little

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<v Speaker 1>information like news items or the weather or whatever. Although

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking out a window, if you need a

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<v Speaker 1>weather report, when you're looking out a window, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>being terribly observant. Well, it might be nice to know

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<v Speaker 1>what the temperature is going to be. You can open

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<v Speaker 1>the window. Oh okay, all right, so you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the future forecast. Alright, fine, fine, yeah, you know, all right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I withdraw my objection. Uh what about active matrix leeds.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about those. That's one of the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>one with the thin film transistor. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>just okay? Now they used as a lot in the phones.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh yes, yes, yes, yes, that's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>does have that thin film transistor I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one that ends up taking the place of

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<v Speaker 1>the intersections. The thin film transistor itself has the connections

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<v Speaker 1>on it on the anode side where it activates where

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<v Speaker 1>the pixels are, and these pixels are active the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they are so thin is a benefit when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about these electronic devices. It makes it so much

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<v Speaker 1>easier to uh, you know, fit it into these things

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<v Speaker 1>tablet form factors and smartphones. Yeah, if we were still

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<v Speaker 1>using if we were using things like l c D

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<v Speaker 1>technology for all of these devices, they would be significantly

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<v Speaker 1>or at least noticeably larger, like thicker and and somewhat heavier.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean heavy being a relative thing. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of it, every ounce counts. Yeah, and in

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<v Speaker 1>a tablet or something like that, you know, if it

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<v Speaker 1>adds six ounces. Yeah. There's one more type of O

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>lead thy talk about, which is the top emitting OH lead.

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<v Speaker 1>And this has got a substrate that is either opaque

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<v Speaker 1>or reflective, and they are often used. This is often

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<v Speaker 1>uh like this, this is just one subtype of O lead.

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<v Speaker 1>It can actually be combined with another type of O lead. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, that active matrix old we were just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, that method of display could be combined with

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<v Speaker 1>the top admitting OH lead. Uh. And this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that's often used in things like smart cards. Future Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>here saying, hey, these old leads are pretty great. I

0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 1>bet pasted Jonathan and Chris would have really dug them. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's typ for us to take another quick break to

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<v Speaker 1>take our sponsor. So lots of different applications of oh leads,

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<v Speaker 1>not just uh displays on phones or um or TVs

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<v Speaker 1>or or even you know, computer monitors that kind of thing. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interest seeing because even though it sounds pretty complex,

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<v Speaker 1>really it's simpler than things like l c D technology.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is much simpler in the grand scheme

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<v Speaker 1>of things, um, even though it's more advanced technology, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's taken years to kind of get the prototype, the

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing process efficient enough so that we can build screens

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<v Speaker 1>that are at the size that we're used to. Even so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have mentioned that, yes, there are television

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<v Speaker 1>screens coming out like large ones TVs that use oh

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:38.160
<v Speaker 1>LAD displays. They are incredibly thin, like to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you can't even really get a good picture of

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>them when you look at them in profile. UM. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they also tend to cost a princely some Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was getting at, is that we have reached

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<v Speaker 1>the point where the manufacturing process has allowed us to

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<v Speaker 1>build these, but they're still prohibitively expensive. For I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the consumer market, new TV is likely

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<v Speaker 1>to cost you several thousand dollars. We're talking like ten

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<v Speaker 1>grand easy, ten tho dollars for lad screen easy. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a lot of money for a new television set.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be prepared to spend that much on

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<v Speaker 1>a TV. And if you're talking about using a competing

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<v Speaker 1>technology that costs say one fifth of that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>or or or yeah or less? Well, yeah, it depends

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<v Speaker 1>I think the last thing. So for example, I I

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<v Speaker 1>purchased an l E ED l c D h D

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<v Speaker 1>t V for um way less than that, like less

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<v Speaker 1>than a tenth of that. And so you look at

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<v Speaker 1>that and you're you're saying, yeah, the the technology, the

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<v Speaker 1>display technology is clearly superior in that clearly clearly huh,

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<v Speaker 1>in that it's got a very crisp picture. The colors

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<v Speaker 1>are are very true true blacks. Yes, because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that backlighting, just like plasma. Plasma does not have backlighting,

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<v Speaker 1>but l c D does, which is why if you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had l C D television new mine is an

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>l c D t D. It's just back split by

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<v Speaker 1>l E D S. Yeah, so that's why L E

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<v Speaker 1>D l C D. Yeah, so when you both. But

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're watching in a dark room and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a scene that is like someone walks into a pitch

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<v Speaker 1>black room in the house, or there's suddenly like a

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<v Speaker 1>blindfolds being put on or whatever, you start to notice like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, my my screen is actually kind of glowing,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not really black. It's just really dark, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that there's light trying to shine through. Hey,

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>it's pitch gray in there. Yeah, that's not a true black.

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>But oh lads, and uh and true l E D

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<v Speaker 1>t v s and um uh plasma TVs they have

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<v Speaker 1>true blacks where because there's no light coming through right

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that that part of the screen is inactive, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>as dark as it's gonna get. Um. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>another nice thing that the color ratios on these contrast

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<v Speaker 1>ratios are really really good. The but yeah, it's even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's superior, it's just it's gonna take a while

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<v Speaker 1>before that price is gonna drop low enough for it

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<v Speaker 1>to be within the reach of the average consumer, I think. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the flexible displays are are always off too. I

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<v Speaker 1>think those will probably we'll price see those used in

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<v Speaker 1>commercial projects first. Oh sure, well, I mean that's where

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 1>the money is. People are gonna be willing to spend

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<v Speaker 1>that for their company to do advertising or to do whatever. Um,

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some mogul will add them to their UM

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 1>sports stadium just because they can. Yeah. Now, eventually, look

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<v Speaker 1>at what I got. Yeah, eventually we may see that

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<v Speaker 1>incorporate into consumer goods. Like I could imagine a like

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<v Speaker 1>an o lad bracelet, right, like a thick oh lad

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<v Speaker 1>bracelet that fits arounder wrist and it can display the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can do other suff sure where it would

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<v Speaker 1>be really thin, so you can have one that is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is you can even get some of different lengths,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can get one that fits your wrist really snugly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can show all this uh this UM

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<v Speaker 1>content off, Yes snugly, and the battery and and processor

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<v Speaker 1>and everything would be on the underside of it, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always on display. Uh that unless you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a nurse, in which cases the other way around. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>the but yeah, that I could easily see that happening

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<v Speaker 1>further down the line. Um, And the potential for oh

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<v Speaker 1>LEDs is pretty high. I mean we're like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>We've already seen it in consumer goods like like smartphones

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<v Speaker 1>and tablets, where it's really helped make these things as

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<v Speaker 1>sleek and slender as they possibly can be. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to see by the time this podcast goes out,

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<v Speaker 1>will know more about it. But I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see how the new iPad looks, UM. And I'm sure

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that it's going to be using an organic light emitting

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>diode screen, possibly a retin a display. We don't know

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>because as we're recording this it's the week before Apple

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<v Speaker 1>has its big announcement. Maybe it won't be an iPad

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Yeah, that's true, and I could come out

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<v Speaker 1>that the March seventh, uh discussion it has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with an iPad, in which case I'll just be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're waiting around, but I would be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>to see that because the iPad two came out in

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<v Speaker 1>large last year. Yeah, whenever south By Southwest rolls around,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when it's time for a new iPad. Al right, guys, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that wraps up our discussion on oh LEDs UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pretty cool and yeah, if you want to learn

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<v Speaker 1>more about them, please go to how Stuff works dot

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