1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com. Hey there, welcome to tech Stuff. 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I am your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: with How Stuff Works, and I heart radio and I 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: love all things tech. And now I'm going to talk 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: to you a little bit about classic episode, an episode 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: of tech Stuff that we published way back on March 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve called tech Stuff Stairs at O LEDs, 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: O L E d S. Chris Palette and I sat 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: down to talk about what are O LEDs, how do 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: they work, and why are they important? And I think 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: it's funny to listen to this older episode because when 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: we were recording it back in two thousand twelve, oh 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: LED screens were still very much in that R and 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: D kind of prototype stage. You didn't really see them 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: in very many consumer products. And these days where you're 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: seeing them and all sorts of stuff from smartphone too, tablets, 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: to laptop computers to television sets. So it's neat to 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: see how things have changed. Enjoy this classic episode. I 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: think by when I first started at How Stuff Works, 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: oh lads, we're still very very much in the prototype stage, 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: and you didn't really see anything on the market at 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: that time, the consumer market anyway, they had an O 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: LEDs type screen and now they're much later in the 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: prototype stage. But we're kidding the lads. Actually, now we're 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: getting to the point where we're finally seeing them scaled 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: up to large screen TVs. But for a long time, 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: the biggest screen you're gonna get with something like eleven Yeah. Yeah, Well, 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the genesis of my joke being that people who are 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: really interested in OLED technology have been waiting for them 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: to come out for a very long time, and it 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: seems like they're they've been in development of some kind 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: for a for a long long time. They've been actually 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty common in smaller screens like smartphones, rins for example. Um, 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: they're they're really great for that. They use less energy 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: than a lot of the other technologies and they're excellent 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: for that. But that's you know, getting them scaled up 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: has taken a long time, and the people who have 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: been waiting, I'm gonna buy an old TV like, well, 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't hold my breath. Well, but finally 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: they're starting to hit now. But and and also the 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: other thing people have been waiting for, and it's one 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: of the types we'll talk about in a little a 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: little further in in the podcast is the flexible oh lady, 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: that idea of having a display that is actually malleable, 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: that you can bend it around things. And you know, 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: you might use that to have a foldable display. That's 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: what a lot of people talk about. But there are 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: other things you could use it for, Like you could 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: use it in displays. Stay in a store where you've 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: got round columns and you could have a display wrapping 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: around this round column. Uh yeah, things like that. Well, yeah, 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: and it's uh, and that's the thing about it. I think, Um, 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: despite the fact that it's taken a while to get 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: law er oh lad screens, the technology will be worth 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: the way. But I think it's uh. I think it 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: is a good idea to go ahead and talk about 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: the similarities. And there I think three major similarities between 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: the technologies red, green, and blue light. Well, the purpose 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: of all all the technologies we're talking about here, you know, 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: plasma l C D and uh you know the oh 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: lads or l E D screens and organic l E 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: D screens. Um, you know, it's it's to display information 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: and it shows us light. Um. The trick is really 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: how they go about doing that. And we've talked about 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: some of the other technologies in the past, like for example, 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: plasma uses uh gases ionized gas, and basically you they 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: show the different colors by running a charge through the 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: gas and then look like l c D uses liquid crystals, 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: and these liquid crystals actually form a barrier between light 71 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: and the clear part of the screen, and then the 72 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: l c D these through various running an electric current 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: through change shape and that allows light to pass through 74 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: and there's some color filters in there and that's where 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: we get the displays through that. So that's a liquid 76 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: crystal display. L E d s are light emitting diodes 77 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: and we've had those around for for quite some time 78 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: and they're pretty efficient. They're more efficient than a lot 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: of other forms of lighting. But an O l e D, 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: as Chris had mentioned, is an organic light emitting diode. 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: And you might think, well, what how that huh, And 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: it really comes down to uh kind of a an 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: organic sandwich. Yes, And the thing is, uh, they're not 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: terribly different from from the typical l E d s, 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: but it's it really comes down to the materials used 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: to make that sandwich. So they're they're they're very thin, alright, 87 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: So an O L D it's it's solid state, all right, 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: And it is usually between one to five hundred natomie 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: eaters thick, which is pretty thin. That's according to UH 90 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: to most estimates. And this does change from one source 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: to another, but it's about two hundred times thinner than 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: a human hair in diameter. Now, human hair is actually 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: come into a variety of diameters. It's like one person's 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: hair might be thinner than another's. Some people have clear 95 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: hair like me, My hair is invisible to the human eye. 96 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, at any rate, the two hundred it's an average, 97 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: So it's two hundred times smaller than the diameter of 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: human hair. And uh, it's they're different layers within this sandwich, right, 99 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: and that's what is creating the light that you see. 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: And there's the basics the the bread on this sandwich, 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: if you will, is our pair of electrodes. Right, you've 102 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: got your cathode and you've got your technically, you also 103 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: have the substrate. This substrate is the foundation that the 104 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: O LED sits upon. So substrate is also part of this. 105 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: But I'm looking mostly at the components that actually make 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: the lad work. Right, So, yeah, you've got the cathode 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: and the anode, and you've got the jobs of the 108 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: cathode and the anode are to create a circuit for 109 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: electricity to flow through, right, right, The electrons flow from 110 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: one to the other. Yea, from the cathode to the anode. 111 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: And in a way you have to kind of think 112 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: of this in uh interesting terms, like, so, cathode is 113 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: injecting negative particles into this o led sandwich. Are you positive? Yes, 114 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: I am positive that they are negative electrons, is what 115 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: cathodes are putting into their The anode is creating, well 116 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: what we call them electron holes. They're positive. It's they 117 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: turn an element to a positively charged element. They actually 118 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: pull electrons out of it, and so now it's positively charged. 119 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: So that means that the electrons coming from the cathode 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: are attracted towards the anno side. Hey, you're pretty cute. 121 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: And so it has to pass through the other layers 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: of the sandwich. And there are two or three other layers, 123 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: depending on the type of oh ledge you're looking at, 124 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: but really the two layer is the most common, So 125 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I'll just stick with that. So you've got your emissive layer, 126 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: this is the layer that actually emits light, and you 127 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: have your conductive layer, which is the layer that attracts 128 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,119 Speaker 1: the electrons through the other materials. So if we're looking 129 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: at top to bottom and the bottom is the substrate, 130 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: then the top layer is your cathode. Next down you 131 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: have your emissive layer, that's where the light comes through. 132 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: Then you have your conductive layer that's what's pulling the 133 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: electrons down. Then you have the annode layer. That's what's 134 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: really pulling the electrons down. It's what's allowing the conductive 135 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: layer to pull these electrons through. And then you have 136 00:07:53,720 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: the substrate. So, uh, why are we getting light? Boy? 137 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: This this gets into some interesting physics here. Okay, So 138 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: you've got the electrons coming through from one side, you've 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: got the electron holes coming through from the other side. 140 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: So in a way, you can think of negative charge 141 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: and positive charge. I know that sounds weird, but just 142 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: go with me here. And when those two meet, the 143 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: molecule that they meet at becomes uh, actually drops an 144 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: electron into that positive hole, and as a result, there 145 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: is a difference in energy. It releases some energy as 146 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: a result of that that reaction, and that energy is 147 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: released in the form of a photon. And we've talked 148 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: about this before about how if you excite an atom, 149 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, by telling you it's going to dine world 150 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: or something, and the electrons moved to a higher energy state. 151 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: When those electrons move back down, once that energy has 152 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: has been removed from the system, once the electrons move 153 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: back down, they have to release that extra energy, and 154 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: they often will do this in the form of photons, 155 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: which we perceive as light. That's exactly what's going on here. Actually, 156 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: I saw a great video on this uh M my 157 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: t S site where a professor was explaining how oh 158 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: LED's work by shocking the heck out of a pickle. 159 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: He had a had a cathode and an anode um 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: attached to a pickle and was running a very high 161 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: electric current through it, which was making the pickle glow. 162 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: And it was this is what was happening. You had 163 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: the positive charge in the negative charge meeting and the 164 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: molecules where it met at that's where it was releasing 165 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: this electron and uh and and releasing a photon or 166 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: or it was the electron states were moving down and 167 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: the photons were being released, and that's why we were 168 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: getting light. Um pretty cool. Actually, I kind of wanted 169 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: to build one, except for the fact that I'm sure 170 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: I would probably electric you myself. For a second there, 171 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: I thought you were girk in my chain. Ha ha. Anyway, 172 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: so when we're talking about electricity, we're not talking about 173 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: a lot. It said, these are pretty efficient, so we're 174 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: talking in a realm of just a few volts that 175 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: are needed in order to excite these molecules so that 176 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: they emit light. That's one of the major benefits of 177 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: old screens is that they don't require as much electricity 178 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: as some others. You know. Of course, plasma TVs are 179 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: are notorious for using a lot of electricity. Well, you 180 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: have to keep pouring in electricity to keep that gas ionized. 181 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, plasma display is not They've gotten a lot 182 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: better last few years, but is it is, by its 183 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: very nature, is not the most environmentally friendly way of 184 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: creating television. Not that TV is terribly environmentally friendly no 185 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: matter how you do it, but but it's it's less 186 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, plasma has a reputation for being for being 187 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: less energy friendly. So yeah, there there there have been 188 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: some better ones, but still uh and those two different 189 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: layers of molecules are are are organic, but they're organic 190 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: plastic thick. It's pretty cool organic plastic like poly aniline 191 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: and polyfluorine. Okay, all right, you know Pollyanna, you know 192 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: when you when you say we're organic plastic, that sort 193 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: of sounds like it's oxymoronic, like you know organ chuah 194 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: wa um. Well that that's actually UM. We should talk 195 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: about to the different types of OH leads because there 196 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: are r G B OH lead screens and then there's 197 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: the white lead screen UM, which sort of uses a 198 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: color sandwich to UM, and by by activating red, green, 199 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: and blue, you get white UM. And uh. You know 200 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: those the red, green and blue are are pressed together 201 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: in the same pixel. So by doing that you can 202 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: you can have the have basically a pure white UM 203 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: and it's it. It works a little slightly differently than 204 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: than the others simply because of at UM. There are 205 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: people say that it has a longer life than the 206 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: traditional O lead screens UM, but that is supposed to 207 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: be one of the advantages of it UM. And it's 208 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: also possible to uh to scale the white OH lead 209 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: screens up a little easier from what I understand. Yeah, 210 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: it's also been talked about as a potential replacement for 211 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: things like fluorescent lights, where not just for displays, but 212 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: for actual lighting, because that's it's even more efficient than 213 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: fluorescent lighting is. And uh, you know you don't have 214 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: that mercury that you gotta worry about in fluorescent lights. Yeah. Guys, 215 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: if you have those little fluorescent bulbs, which are you know, 216 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: more energy efficient incandescent bulbs will good on you, but 217 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: be very careful with them, yes, because those suckers do 218 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: contain some very toxic chemicals in them that can be 219 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: very dangerous. Yes, you do not want to bust them, right, 220 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: So the O lead lights might be a nice alternative 221 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: to that, you know, if if it's efficient enough so 222 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: that they make economic sense to the consumer, because you know, 223 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: you gotta worry about that, uh, and also the fact 224 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: that they don't have these toxic chemicals necessarily inside them. 225 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: If they are just as efficient or more so, then 226 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense to go and switch to a We're 227 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna get back to our discussion about how oh LEDs 228 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: work and what they are all about in just a second, 229 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: but first let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor. 230 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: There are actually several different types of oh LAD screens 231 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: just LAD displays. We talked about the foldable oh LEDs. Now, 232 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: these are using a substrate that is flexible. So you know, 233 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: your typical substrate. When I think of substrate, I think 234 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: of something that is that is, you know, pretty solid, 235 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: or sometimes it can be a little brittle or whatever, 236 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: but it doesn't bend. It's not bendi bendy. Right. Well. 237 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: The the idea being that you're going to build your 238 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: circuit material on top of this material. So I mean 239 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: you're this it's a board, so you you know, you're 240 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to add the stuff to it, right, Yeah, 241 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Usually you want something that's fairly solid, although you know, 242 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: obviously for other applications you would need something that's flexible. 243 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Let's say that you want to create a display on 244 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: say a jacket, which might very well be something not 245 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: necessarily that the consumer would ever see. But let's say 246 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: an advertising company creates this, uh, this type of of 247 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: jacket that can have a flexible screen on the back 248 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: of it, and then next thing you know, you've got 249 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: this new way for at trade shows where people can 250 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: show off cool technology and it's literally playing on their backs. Um, 251 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I could even imagine it going so far 252 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: as to let's say you've got a courier service and 253 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: you are sponsored, they run ads on your back as 254 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: you you're a bike courier. I look forward to seeing that. 255 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing all the accidents that will 256 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: happen as result people turning their heads to see what 257 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, they're like, I want to follow this 258 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: guy another mile. I have to see how this turns out. 259 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Clearly that if you did that, you would have to 260 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: make very visually stunning types of ads that don't need 261 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: any audio. That would be that would be the real 262 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: challenge there. Look, I'm just trying. I'm just I'm just 263 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: trying to create some jobs out there. That's what I'm 264 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: trying to do. Okay, But you also have you have 265 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: your passive matrix oh LED. Now passive matrix, oh lads. 266 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: You know we talked about the cathodes and the anodes. Well, 267 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily a sheet on top of you know, 268 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: when I said sandwich, it sounds like you're talking about 269 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: solid sheet. That's not necessarily the case, although that can 270 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: be done a passive matrix oh LED. What it does 271 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: is it arranges the cathodes and anodes into strips, and 272 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: one sets strips are vertical and the other sets strips 273 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: are horizontal. So you could think of it like all 274 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: the anodes are streets and all the cathodes are avenues. 275 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: So at these intersections where the cathode and and O 276 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: meat that's where you have your pixels and your pixels 277 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: of course, that's the point of light. So when you 278 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: talk about how many pixels the display has, as so 279 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: many points of light it is capable of displaying at 280 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: one time more than that, it would be a very 281 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: low resolution television. Uh. The so this is one way 282 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: of doing that where you have the just at the 283 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: intersections of these strips, that's where the pixels are uh. 284 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Not terribly efficient compared to other oh leads and uh 285 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: and also for all of these screens, if you're wondering 286 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: about controlling brightness, that's a function of how much electricity 287 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: is flowing through the system. If you're pouring more juice 288 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: into it, it's gonna be brighter less juice not as bright, 289 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: which makes sense. Next, we have the active matrix OH 290 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: lead and this has a full sheet of the cathode 291 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: and and it's sort of like the sandwich example I 292 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: was giving earlier. So in this case, there is a 293 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: film transistor that is uh gotta. It's an anode layer overlay, 294 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: and that's what forms the matrix. Uh not the kind 295 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: that NEO goes through with all the zeros and ones, 296 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: but this in the it forms the same feature as 297 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: the intersections on the passive matrix. OH lead, tank, I 298 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: eat an exit. Oh gosh, wow, out of all of those, 299 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm surprised you didn't say I know kung 300 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: fu or just whoa uh you got your transparent oh lads. 301 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: Now these are really super cool. Like everything every single 302 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: element in this oh lead is transparent. So when light 303 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: is uh is flowing through this system, then you see 304 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: it projected within a clear screen, and when it's not, 305 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: you can just look through the screen. Now, this is 306 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: used in things like heads up displays, so you know 307 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: you're flying exactly flying a plane, driving a car or whatever. 308 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: If you've got a heads up display that can show 309 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: within the uh the windscreen or or cockpit screen or whatever, 310 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: that is very likely a transparent oh lad. I've also 311 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: seen this used in smart Windows, which was something new. 312 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I had heard about smart windows before, but 313 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: it was the first time I had seen one was 314 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: at CS where I think it was Samsung that had it. 315 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: Where it's a smart window. What that could display information 316 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: and it could do things that give you like little 317 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: information like news items or the weather or whatever. Although 318 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: when you're looking out a window, if you need a 319 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: weather report, when you're looking out a window, you're not 320 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: being terribly observant. Well, it might be nice to know 321 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: what the temperature is going to be. You can open 322 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: the window. Oh okay, all right, so you're looking at 323 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: the future forecast. Alright, fine, fine, yeah, you know, all right, Okay, 324 00:18:54,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: I withdraw my objection. Uh what about active matrix leeds. 325 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I talked about those. That's one of the that's the 326 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: one with the thin film transistor. Do you want to 327 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: just okay? Now they used as a lot in the phones. 328 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: So oh yes, yes, yes, yes, that's the one that 329 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: does have that thin film transistor I was talking about. 330 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: That's the one that ends up taking the place of 331 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: the intersections. The thin film transistor itself has the connections 332 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: on it on the anode side where it activates where 333 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: the pixels are, and these pixels are active the fact 334 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: that they are so thin is a benefit when you're 335 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: talking about these electronic devices. It makes it so much 336 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: easier to uh, you know, fit it into these things 337 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: tablet form factors and smartphones. Yeah, if we were still 338 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: using if we were using things like l c D 339 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: technology for all of these devices, they would be significantly 340 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: or at least noticeably larger, like thicker and and somewhat heavier. 341 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: And I mean heavy being a relative thing. But in 342 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: the case of it, every ounce counts. Yeah, and in 343 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: a tablet or something like that, you know, if it 344 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: adds six ounces. Yeah. There's one more type of O 345 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: lead thy talk about, which is the top emitting OH lead. 346 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: And this has got a substrate that is either opaque 347 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: or reflective, and they are often used. This is often 348 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: uh like this, this is just one subtype of O lead. 349 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: It can actually be combined with another type of O lead. So, 350 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: in other words, that active matrix old we were just 351 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: talking about, that method of display could be combined with 352 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: the top admitting OH lead. Uh. And this is something 353 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: that's often used in things like smart cards. Future Jonathan 354 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: here saying, hey, these old leads are pretty great. I 355 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: bet pasted Jonathan and Chris would have really dug them. Anyway, 356 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: it's typ for us to take another quick break to 357 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: take our sponsor. So lots of different applications of oh leads, 358 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: not just uh displays on phones or um or TVs 359 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: or or even you know, computer monitors that kind of thing. Uh. 360 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: It's interest seeing because even though it sounds pretty complex, 361 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: really it's simpler than things like l c D technology. 362 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: It is. It is much simpler in the grand scheme 363 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: of things, um, even though it's more advanced technology, and 364 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: it's taken years to kind of get the prototype, the 365 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: manufacturing process efficient enough so that we can build screens 366 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: that are at the size that we're used to. Even so, 367 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: you know, we have mentioned that, yes, there are television 368 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: screens coming out like large ones TVs that use oh 369 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: LAD displays. They are incredibly thin, like to the point 370 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: where you can't even really get a good picture of 371 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: them when you look at them in profile. UM. However, 372 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: they also tend to cost a princely some Yes, that's 373 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: what I was getting at, is that we have reached 374 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: the point where the manufacturing process has allowed us to 375 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: build these, but they're still prohibitively expensive. For I'd say 376 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: the majority of the consumer market, new TV is likely 377 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: to cost you several thousand dollars. We're talking like ten 378 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: grand easy, ten tho dollars for lad screen easy. Um 379 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: that that's a lot of money for a new television set. 380 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: I would not be prepared to spend that much on 381 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: a TV. And if you're talking about using a competing 382 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: technology that costs say one fifth of that, you know 383 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: or or or yeah or less? Well, yeah, it depends 384 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I think the last thing. So for example, I I 385 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: purchased an l E ED l c D h D 386 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: t V for um way less than that, like less 387 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: than a tenth of that. And so you look at 388 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: that and you're you're saying, yeah, the the technology, the 389 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: display technology is clearly superior in that clearly clearly huh, 390 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: in that it's got a very crisp picture. The colors 391 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: are are very true true blacks. Yes, because you don't 392 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: have that backlighting, just like plasma. Plasma does not have backlighting, 393 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: but l c D does, which is why if you've 394 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: ever had l C D television new mine is an 395 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: l c D t D. It's just back split by 396 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: l E D S. Yeah, so that's why L E 397 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: D l C D. Yeah, so when you both. But 398 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: but if you're watching in a dark room and it's 399 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: a scene that is like someone walks into a pitch 400 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: black room in the house, or there's suddenly like a 401 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: blindfolds being put on or whatever, you start to notice like, 402 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: wait a minute, my my screen is actually kind of glowing, 403 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: like it's not really black. It's just really dark, and 404 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: I can see that there's light trying to shine through. Hey, 405 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: it's pitch gray in there. Yeah, that's not a true black. 406 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: But oh lads, and uh and true l E D 407 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: t v s and um uh plasma TVs they have 408 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: true blacks where because there's no light coming through right 409 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: that that part of the screen is inactive, So it's 410 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: as dark as it's gonna get. Um. Yeah, so that's 411 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: another nice thing that the color ratios on these contrast 412 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: ratios are really really good. The but yeah, it's even 413 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: though it's superior, it's just it's gonna take a while 414 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: before that price is gonna drop low enough for it 415 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: to be within the reach of the average consumer, I think. Yeah. 416 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: And the flexible displays are are always off too. I 417 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: think those will probably we'll price see those used in 418 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: commercial projects first. Oh sure, well, I mean that's where 419 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: the money is. People are gonna be willing to spend 420 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: that for their company to do advertising or to do whatever. Um, 421 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure some mogul will add them to their UM 422 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: sports stadium just because they can. Yeah. Now, eventually, look 423 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: at what I got. Yeah, eventually we may see that 424 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: incorporate into consumer goods. Like I could imagine a like 425 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: an o lad bracelet, right, like a thick oh lad 426 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: bracelet that fits arounder wrist and it can display the time, 427 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: and it can do other suff sure where it would 428 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: be really thin, so you can have one that is 429 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, is you can even get some of different lengths, 430 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: so you can get one that fits your wrist really snugly, 431 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: and then you can show all this uh this UM 432 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: content off, Yes snugly, and the battery and and processor 433 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: and everything would be on the underside of it, so 434 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: it's not always on display. Uh that unless you're you know, 435 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: a nurse, in which cases the other way around. Uh 436 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: the but yeah, that I could easily see that happening 437 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: further down the line. Um, And the potential for oh 438 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: LEDs is pretty high. I mean we're like I said, 439 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: We've already seen it in consumer goods like like smartphones 440 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: and tablets, where it's really helped make these things as 441 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: sleek and slender as they possibly can be. I can't 442 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: wait to see by the time this podcast goes out, 443 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: will know more about it. But I can't wait to 444 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: see how the new iPad looks, UM. And I'm sure 445 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: that it's going to be using an organic light emitting 446 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: diode screen, possibly a retin a display. We don't know 447 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: because as we're recording this it's the week before Apple 448 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: has its big announcement. Maybe it won't be an iPad 449 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, that's true, and I could come out 450 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: that the March seventh, uh discussion it has nothing to 451 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: do with an iPad, in which case I'll just be like, well, 452 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: I guess we're waiting around, but I would be surprised 453 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: to see that because the iPad two came out in 454 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: large last year. Yeah, whenever south By Southwest rolls around, 455 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: that's when it's time for a new iPad. Al right, guys, Well, 456 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: I think that wraps up our discussion on oh LEDs UM. 457 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: They're pretty cool and yeah, if you want to learn 458 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: more about them, please go to how Stuff works dot 459 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: com and look at how oh LED's work. We have 460 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot of of information on it. There are a 461 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: lot of different illustrations that show this process of the 462 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: electrons moving from the cathode to the an out and 463 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: exactly how that creates the the light that these layers 464 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: are emitting. 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