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Speaker 1: This is the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend review Podcasts presented by

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Speaker 1: ever Bank. I'm JP Shadwick with the best of the

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Speaker 1: week from Jags Radio, Jaguars dot Com, and Jaguars U two.

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Speaker 1: It was a busy week around the Miller Electric Center.

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Speaker 1: The players were back for the start of the off

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Speaker 1: season program. Trevor Lawrence and Foyer Luikin spoke with the

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Speaker 1: media to set the tone for the offseason. Plus, Thursday

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Speaker 1: was the pre draft media luncheon featuring GM Trent Bulky

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Speaker 1: and head coach Doug Peterson. Let's start with the return

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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars players for the off season program, strength

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Speaker 1: and conditioning for the first two weeks. Quarterback Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: spoke Tuesday about how the team sets the tone for

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Speaker 1: the next two months of work.

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Speaker 2: You know, just kind of recapping obviously last year, and

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Speaker 2: you know, you gotta move on pretty quickly because it's

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Speaker 2: a new year. You know, now it doesn't matter who

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Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl last year. Now everyone's kind of

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Speaker 2: turning the page and going on to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So you move on. But you have to kind of recap,

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Speaker 2: all right, because we only had that one team meeting

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Speaker 2: right before we left to end our season last year,

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Speaker 2: and you talk about it, but it's hard to digest

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Speaker 2: that in one night before that meeting. So you know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about and dressed address some of the things

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Speaker 2: do well, some things that we might have done okay

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Speaker 2: that the last two days, and from coach Peterson's perspective,

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Speaker 2: from Press's perspective, and then players, you know, some stuff too.

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Speaker 2: So it's been really good. I think we're we're heading

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Speaker 2: to do, and we got to attack this offseason and

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Speaker 2: be really intentional. There's there's very tangible things that we

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Speaker 2: need to get better at. Obviously I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: we need to get better at, you know, for myself,

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Speaker 2: kind of just put all those out there and now

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Speaker 2: So I think it's it's necessary to do that at

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Speaker 2: the worst thing you want to do is you don't

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Speaker 2: want to waste time. You don't want to just come

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Speaker 2: know where you're heading and what you want to work on.

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Speaker 2: So I think it was good to get everybody centered

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Speaker 3: How did you digest it the last six weeks, especially

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Speaker 3: of just everything that transpire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was obviously a disappointing season. I mean some

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Speaker 2: of the stuff that I said after the year, but

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Speaker 2: I think just being removed from it, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: easier to see the good after the fact, not necessarily

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Speaker 2: as good and to make yourself better moving forward. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's just so many things that I learned last season,

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Speaker 2: whether it's you know, trying to stay healthy and dealing

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Speaker 2: in my career, or not playing as consistent as I

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Speaker 2: wanted to play, and to finish the year to whatever

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Speaker 2: I think you being removed from it, you can you

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Speaker 2: big picture. So I'm thankful for that. I mean, all

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Speaker 2: the difficult times in my career, I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: that's what I plan to do for from last season,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's our approach as a team too.

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Speaker 2: It's a waste if you don't use it. You went

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Speaker 2: it's just it's double bad because it was it sucked

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Speaker 2: So I think that's our that's my mindset, that's our

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Speaker 4: You think when you heard about Josh Allen's new contract.

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Speaker 2: It's excited for him, super excited. Obviously won the season

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Speaker 2: that we got that done and he's he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: and excited that he's that he's here, and obviously really

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Speaker 2: of that's that's a big deal and can take care

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited for him and he definitely earned it.

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Speaker 5: Ten year four So you start thinking about your contract

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Speaker 2: It or yeah, I mean there's there's definitely been some conversations,

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Speaker 2: you know, As far as where that's at now, it's

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Speaker 2: not really my focus, you know, I'd love to love

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Speaker 2: We love it here and I love where we're headed

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Speaker 2: as an organization and feel like I'm just getting better

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Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, obviously, yeah, that that would be great,

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Speaker 2: But like I said, it's going into my fourth year.

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Speaker 2: It's not like this is necessarily gonna be my last season.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot that could happen, So not

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Speaker 2: my job isn't going to change whether I get extended

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Speaker 2: he's even more expectation and pressure on that. So for me,

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Speaker 2: but no, it's not really the focus right now. I

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Speaker 1: Also, speaking Tuesday, linebacker Fourier Luikin, who recently signed his

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Speaker 6: Yeah, never be in a rearview. Maybe next year after

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Speaker 6: it starts from the first game all the way to

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Speaker 7: Boh yeah, how how much does your job role change

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Speaker 6: As a linebacker, you pretty much have the same job description,

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Speaker 6: So I have the most confidence of myself to be

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Speaker 6: do you think like I think.

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Speaker 7: You might have mentioned already a couple weeks.

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Speaker 4: So this this one could allow you to make more

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Speaker 6: Se right, So everybody has a part in the defense.

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Speaker 6: I'm trusting everybody's going to do their part. We talked about,

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Speaker 6: I'm sure if you watch the film, playing in lighter boxes,

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Speaker 6: I think I talked about earlier, keeping our like matching

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Speaker 1: The press conference availabilities at Jaguars dot com and Jags YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Also this week, I caught up with you Jaguars wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Christian Kirk, who missed the final five games last

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Speaker 4: It was a tough way to end for me. Did

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Speaker 4: You know, I spent about a month here after the

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Speaker 4: back from last year. Obviously, we didn't meet the expectations

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Speaker 4: every day in the off season program and work towards that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you saw it off to the side, but

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Speaker 1: last month and a half last season, So that drives

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Speaker 1: put what happened last season in the review mirror.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we talked about it our first year here.

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Speaker 4: We set the expectations of what we expect from this

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Speaker 4: and that's our sole goal is to make you know,

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Speaker 4: it to the championship and to the end. And you

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Speaker 4: know in twenty three and last year we didn't meet

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Speaker 10: because it gives you multiple opportunities within different levels of

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Speaker 10: the draft, you know, and sometimes that you're splitting hairs

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Speaker 10: and sometimes the guy that you got a little more

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Speaker 10: value to doesn't doesn't play up to or doesn't play

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Speaker 10: as well as the guy you got right behind him,

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Speaker 10: So you know, there's a little luck involved as well.

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Speaker 10: But we feel good about where the board's at now.

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Speaker 10: We feel good about the where our needs lie and

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Speaker 10: where the board, what the board is shaping up to

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Speaker 10: look like. So you know, now we just got to

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Speaker 10: wait and play it out.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about the talent pool in this

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Speaker 4: year's draft?

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Speaker 11: Is this a draft where you feel like you can

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Speaker 11: get a guy on day or two, day three?

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Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I think it's no different than most drafts.

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Speaker 10: I think there's it's a there's talent at all levels.

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Speaker 10: You just got to find them, you know, and a

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Speaker 10: lot of a lot of finding them is fit. A

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Speaker 10: lot of finding them is opportunity, giving them opportunity. Once

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Speaker 10: you get them, you know, on your on your program,

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Speaker 10: within within the organization. So I think I think it's

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Speaker 10: no different. I like this group of players coming in,

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Speaker 10: it's a little bit older there. It's an older group

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Speaker 10: because of the COVID situation and guys that went back

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Speaker 10: for their fifth six years of college, so that's a

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Speaker 10: little different for us.

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Speaker 7: Trying to mention how the four falls and how that

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Speaker 7: can affect the approach that the already need aspect to

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Speaker 7: this last with the quarterback last at the top, and

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Speaker 7: maybe teams that are looking into that and how to

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Speaker 7: be the effectibility.

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Speaker 10: Well, when you when you don't need a position and

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Speaker 10: it's it's heavy at a position like like it is

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Speaker 10: with quarterbacks, and you know, four or five are more

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Speaker 10: than likely going to go off before we pick at seventeen.

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Speaker 10: You know that's a good thing, you know, because that

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Speaker 10: leaves the position players or or more position players available

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Speaker 10: for us. You know, but again, you don't know what's

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Speaker 10: going to happen one through sixteen. You know, you you

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Speaker 10: think he got an idea. You go in with a

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Speaker 10: pretty good idea what it looks like and what your

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Speaker 10: options might be. You know, whether that's three or four

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Speaker 10: players we're looking at right now, We're not there yet.

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Speaker 10: You know, we still got a couple of days of

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Speaker 10: going through coaching. I haven't sat down and go, excuse me,

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Speaker 10: going through the final board yet. We'll do that on Monday.

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Speaker 10: But we like how it's shaping up, but we still

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Speaker 10: got some work to do.

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Speaker 1: The full press conference at Jaguars dot com and Jags YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and let's cap off the week with Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: Radio Thursday afternoon, Jeff Logman and I reacted to the

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Speaker 1: possibilities of trading in the first round next Thursday night

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft, plus the history of the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: doing so. I'm talking about trading up or down in

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Speaker 1: the first round. So it costs you a lot to

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Speaker 1: move up.

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Speaker 2: I know that well.

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Speaker 12: And also, look, you trade it up to get James Stewart, Okay,

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Speaker 12: good football player, solid guy, I mean, great guy. Was

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Speaker 12: it ultra productive? No? Reggiean Nelson seventeenth and you moved

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Speaker 12: to twenty first offs trade back, but then you moved

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Speaker 12: up to the eighth spot overall for Derek Harvey. That

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Speaker 12: did not work out. It did not work out for

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Speaker 12: Blaine Gabbert, but I get it. You're taking a shot

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Speaker 12: at a quarterback sometimes you have to do that. You

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Speaker 12: trade it up to get Justin Blackman. It didn't pay

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Speaker 12: any dividends, okay. And then you also with Devin Lloyd,

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Speaker 12: you traded up to get Devon And right now, if

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Speaker 12: you're making an opinion on that, is was that a

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Speaker 12: success or was that just kind of eh? I think

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Speaker 12: we're still the jury is still still being determined.

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Speaker 1: But right now.

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Speaker 12: If you had to make a decision on it, you

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Speaker 12: would say, eh, it's not wasn't a great wasn't a

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Speaker 12: great trade, but it's not done yet. And then you

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Speaker 12: know to trade back and to get Anton Harrison, you

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Speaker 12: acquired so many extra pixel The lesson is to me

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Speaker 12: is that trading up is not necessarily a positive thing,

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Speaker 12: and Trent Balkey alluded to that in his press conference today.

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Speaker 12: He said, Look, the analytics guys will tell you that

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Speaker 12: trading up is never a good thing, and he's right.

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Speaker 12: I just unless you're going up to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 12: In my opinion, for every other position, you just stay

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Speaker 12: put where you are, or you try to move back

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Speaker 12: and then take the best available player, not a guy

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Speaker 12: that well he might be the best player, but we

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Speaker 12: got a need there. No take the best available player always,

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Speaker 12: in my opinion, unless.

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Speaker 1: You know for a fact, in your heart of hearts

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Speaker 1: that the guy you're moving up for another position is

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame talent, right, And how do you

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Speaker 1: really know? You don't know that.

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Speaker 12: You don't know that. But if you haven't a percentage game,

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Speaker 12: it's a percentage of game, you know. So if you've

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Speaker 12: got Aaron Donald sitting there waiting on you. But that

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Speaker 12: one was coming out from Pittsburgh, JP. I watched the

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Speaker 12: film on him, and I'm sitting there watching the film.

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Speaker 12: I'm going and he's really good. He's got quickness, he's

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Speaker 12: got suddenness, but man, he's kind of small. I mean,

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Speaker 12: like I said, I watched the film on him. I

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Speaker 12: didn't see Hall of Fame guy. I watched the film

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Speaker 12: on TJ. Watt and I was like, and I don't

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Speaker 12: think he's a first rounder. He's probably a second rounder.

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Speaker 12: He's one of the best players in the league right now.

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Speaker 12: You know, so again, it's a percentage his game. But

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Speaker 12: you know, when I watched the defensive end in Cleveland,

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Speaker 12: Miles Garrett, hands down, this guy is a super freak.

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Speaker 12: No doubt. This guy is a Hall of Fame type

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Speaker 12: of talent. I mean, but I mean, so that's one

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Speaker 12: of the guys that I probably watched. When I watched

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Speaker 12: Clowney coming out, I was like, Clowney, this guy can

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Speaker 12: do everything. He's studden, he's violent, he can play anywhere,

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Speaker 12: he can be moved around. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 12: a great pass rusher. Saw me. My evaluation on him

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Speaker 12: was pretty fairly accurate. It wasn't perfect because I thought

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Speaker 12: that he would be more of an impact throughout his career.

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Speaker 12: But one of those guys, it's just you know, freakish

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Speaker 12: and so again because it's a percentage his game. I

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Speaker 12: don't ever think that you go into any pick saying

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Speaker 12: this guy's a Hall of Famer. It just doesn't work

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Speaker 12: that way.

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