1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy. I'm Joe and 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: we are here today with Dale and Cat. Cat and Dale. Congrats. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: You guys are a couple, right Kale Calale first? 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: First, a new couple named Kale that you know are We. 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Said on that it's genetically modified the vegetable that everyone 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: thought was healthy and is actually probably not that good 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: for you. That's what you guys are. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Actually, it's so true. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, the kill is quarantines, but what would be the 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 4: opposite that? 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I guess you gotta. 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: Go with Kale for sure. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: How you guys doing. How do you feel after the reunion? 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: I feel good after the reunion. Yeah, I thought that. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 5: I thought sparks were I thought there were some moments 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: where it was going to get super intense, but people 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 5: kind of reeled it in. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: But there was so much stuff. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 5: Look, yeah, I'm literally like squeezing Cat during the reunion, 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 5: like keep. 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: It chill, don't burn the stage down. 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 5: But overall, like you know, when you watch stuff back, 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 5: I think people have an idea of, you know, going 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 5: into the reunion, they want to say certain things, but 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 5: everyone kind of held their composure and I think a 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 5: lot of the fans probably are going to have a 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 5: lot more clarity about situations that were going on during 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 5: the season, because even I did like different perspectives, and 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: I thought everyone approached it in a really, really good way, 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 5: and I think a lot of people squashed some of 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 5: the issues that they had going on, you know, while 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 5: airing was going. I know there were some things circulating 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 5: for sure. 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 6: Why were you guys most nervous about going into the reunion? 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 7: I think I was, like, I can speak for myself, 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 7: seeing how everybody kind of was moving in real time 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 7: with the way while it was airing made me realize, like, oh, 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 7: people are like they're not afraid to say anything or 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 7: do anything, or whatever that case may be. So I 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 7: was just, I guess more nervous about things getting really 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 7: elevated and heated and leaving without any kind of clarity 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 7: at the end of the day. 43 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think on my end, the biggest thing 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 5: was for us just to kind of, you know, take 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 5: the higher ground, which you know, I knew we would 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 5: obviously communicate our stance in a lot of situations, but 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 5: you'll see that throughout the season we were balancing each 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: other out at different times. But the biggest thing is 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 5: a lot of times if there's some negativity, it's just 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 5: pet projection. So we didn't need to fall into you know, 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 5: tit for tat or any of those things. And I again, 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 5: I thought that. 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 3: It went really, really well. And it's also just good 54 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: to see everyone. 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: You know, that's probably the last time we'll all be 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 5: in a room together at the same time, So it 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 5: was a good feeling, but it was I'm happy it's 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 5: wrapped for sure. 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: For you, Cat, it's kind of like a lot of 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: accusations have been thrown at you, so no matter what, 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: going into the reunion, you have to be on like 63 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: you really can't even go in there like I'm in 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: a happy, healthy relationship with Dale. It's like I am, 65 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: but I also have to defend myself against everything that 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: kind of went down. 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 7: I think I just wanted to make sure that our 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 7: relationship was still it expressed and acknowledged and we like 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 7: didn't take away from it, didn't take away from that relationship, right, 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 7: And I my biggest thing going into it was that 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 7: I think people just needed to be held accountable for 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 7: certain behaviors and things and got to be done in 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 7: a way that's kind and still like with composure. But 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 7: as I'm sure we all know, like going into those 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 7: settings and you kind of put yourself back in that place, 76 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 7: and so sometimes your emotions can take over. So just 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 7: like being very like grounding in yourself so that way 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 7: you can actually get your point across. 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was also cool because you know, 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: the whole cast is there, so some of these situations 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: when it's online in social media, you're dealing with it 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: kind of yourself. People aren't going to speak and say 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 5: too much. But in that setting, I think there were 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 5: a lot of cast members that stuck up for either 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: of us in situations. We did the same and really 86 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: spoke about some of those situations that kind of helped 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 5: just debt it, you know what I'm saying. 88 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: So I know what you're saying, Dal Everyone does know. 89 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: Everyone knows, everyone knows. 90 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 6: Where do you guys stand with Sean and Alicia? 91 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: Now I don't have a problem with Sean. 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 5: I think Sean made, you know, he was frustrated and 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: made some you know, decisions that he probably wished he 94 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: would have handled a little different. Obviously he's not, you know, 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 5: gonna apologize he did whatever, and he stands by that. 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: But I think He also. 97 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 5: Realized during the reunion that it was a heat of 98 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 5: the moment, you know, he was frustrated and it was 99 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 5: just digging right. There's bigger things that people go through 100 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 5: in relationships than what was expressed on the show. And 101 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 5: I think like he understands that it seems like you 102 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: guys had a good report. 103 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 7: I mean, even before the reunion, I gave him an 104 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 7: olive branch and reached out to him to see if 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 7: he wanted to talk through anything. 106 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 8: This is weeks ago, just because in those environments, like 107 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 8: things are really. 108 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 7: Heightened and we're limited in the way we can like 109 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 7: communicate our perspective, so we kind of. 110 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 8: Like swashed what we could. 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 7: But I also realized that like as things are airing, 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 7: you might like want to kind of lean into that 113 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 7: narrative too, So I didn't know how he was going 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 7: to come into the reunion necessarily. Same with Alicia. Nearly 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 7: she did not speak before the reunion, Like no outreach 116 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 7: was given. So I think that I was able to 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 7: kind of almost like I guess, give like more perspective 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 7: and see that there wasn't as much weight in what 119 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 7: the accusations were because there wasn't really any like proof 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 7: or follow up. I was able to like at least 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 7: feel where they're coming from. I guess their opinions on 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 7: my character, and I don't want to see like we're 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 7: not like best friends, but like I don't hold any 124 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 7: animosity because that's just like not who I am. I 125 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 7: almost like forgive too easily. But I will say, like 126 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 7: this experience taught me like how close to keep people 127 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 7: and those that like that people might be aut to 128 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 7: like hurt you in some capacity and you just have 129 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 7: to be a little bit more cautious of that. So 130 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 7: that's pretty much like where the I would say, it's 131 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 7: it lies, it's just like neutral. I'm never probably going 132 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 7: to see them again, so I'd rather just not have 133 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 7: any hatred. But as long as like we both were 134 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 7: able to speak our truth, that's all I really cared about. 135 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, just at the end, people 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 5: kind of tried to, you know, just squash a lot 137 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: of the large scale like combativeness. And again, like I 138 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 5: think that's was the great thing about the reunion coming 139 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 5: off it. I think if there was were things that 140 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: were open ended, people just kind of moved past them, 141 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: and you know, like. 142 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 7: Everybody said what they've been trying to say for these 143 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 7: last like two while it's airing like, it's been a 144 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 7: lot of built up stuff. And I think once everyone 145 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 7: was able to see that and say that we're adults, 146 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 7: you kind of just like move on in your own ways. 147 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 8: That doesn't mean that. 148 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 7: You're going to be like texting each other and be 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 7: f but you can feel comfortable making a TikTok or. 150 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: Something, you know, So yeah, I just go crazy. 151 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 7: I'd rather put my energy towards I'm not going to 152 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 7: let people like you know, live in my brain. 153 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 8: Essentially it's over, it's done. I can live in theirs 154 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 8: if they want. 155 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: But why so going back to the show accusing you 156 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: of having an iPad, yeah, and reaching out to your 157 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: ax or well technically your current boyfriend, is what the 158 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: accusation was. I think, why do you think he made 159 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: that up? Because I stand with you in this situation 160 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: because if you had an iPad, they would have shown it, 161 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: right and there's really nowhere for you to hide on 162 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: the show. And I guess I don't know, and you 163 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: may not even be able to answer for Sean, But 164 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: where does he pull that out of? 165 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: Is that just like or do you think it didn't 166 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: start with Sean. Do you think it might have started 167 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: with your ex? 168 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 8: I think it was a combination. I do know that. 169 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 7: What ended up happening when they got voted off and 170 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 7: they were put in that hotel was he called my 171 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 7: ex and said things about what I was doing in 172 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 7: Paradise that ultimately also weren't true, such as like saying 173 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 7: I was talking on camera about him cheating on me 174 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 7: and kind of getting him rolled up at least sounds 175 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 7: like so. I don't really know what was exchanged in 176 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 7: that conversation that led him to say something to that extent, 177 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 7: But as you see, it was an iPad or was 178 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 7: it a laptop? Like, if you're going to speak on 179 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 7: something with so much like that has a lot of weight, 180 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 7: I think it would be in your best interest to 181 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 7: make sure you have your facts aligned. I can't speak 182 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 7: on why he did what he did or what she 183 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 7: did what she did or said it to that way, 184 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 7: but I still don't know from even like what my 185 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 7: ex had said. I know that for sure there was 186 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 7: no receipts because there's nothing to give, And yeah, I 187 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 7: don't know. I do know that it was a lot 188 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 7: of Yeah, the conversation that was had was not accurate 189 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 7: from both ends. 190 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 4: Do you think that the accusations changed the way the 191 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: vote would have gone? No, yeah, it didn't look like it. 192 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 8: And I said it that I was like, I love 193 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 8: where we're at. 194 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 7: Like I thought that the three final couples were the 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 7: three final couples that really did deserve to be there, 196 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 7: and like had not to say that Bailey and Jeremy didn't, 197 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 7: but they face a little bit more adversity in my opinion, 198 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 7: But if it was the final four, I would love 199 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 7: that too. I just like loved that we were where 200 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 7: we were at, and I felt like we deserved to 201 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 7: be there, and whatever happened afterwards, I was I was 202 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 7: fine with anybody who were to win or deserved to 203 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 7: lave as like a little bit more financially stable from 204 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 7: the money. So when we lost the challenge and it 205 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 7: came down to Justin Spencer from an outsider looking in, 206 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 7: obviously they would be the couple to go forward, just 207 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 7: based on their relationship that they saw. But I've always 208 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 7: said it's hard because not one couple is better than 209 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 7: the other. It's we're all in our own relationships and 210 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 7: I think we all have our own unique things It 211 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 7: just depends, but yeah, they definitely Yeah, like that. 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 5: Home, we knew like with the pointed Questions challenge or whatever, 213 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 5: as we're reading through the you know, the questions that 214 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: you know are going to be asked and we you know, 215 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: are tallying stuff up. We knew there was no way 216 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 5: we were winning. 217 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: That and people off. But it's also like, I feel 218 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: like we were very direct. 219 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: If we didn't agree with something, you know, we communicated it. 220 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 5: And yeah, we were pretty firm with like, you know, 221 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 5: I let most people know if I was voting for 222 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: him right before the Rose ceremony, so they always knew 223 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 5: where I stood. And when people are coming back, even 224 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: if there's not ill will uh, some of those things 225 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 5: are gonna definitely come back around. And also just the 226 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: nature of it, right, but some of the people who 227 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 5: had left it, it was gonna be a tough go 228 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 5: for us. But we said even going into it, like 229 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: We're not going to sit and beg anybody for shit. 230 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 5: We're gonna you know, be who we are. We can 231 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 5: express and people can see, you know, how we built 232 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: this here in Paradise. But ultimately it was out of 233 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: our control that point, so whatever happened, we were good 234 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 5: and uh, you know a little a little conflict at 235 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: the end, but I think that set the foundation for 236 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 5: us to you know, reset really look. 237 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 8: At it helped me. 238 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 7: I was like, Oh, this man is going to stand 239 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 7: by me without even knowing anything. Like that's incredible. Like 240 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 7: that actually like made our relationship so much stronger. I 241 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 7: think they wanted it to do the opposite, but it 242 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 7: was literally the weight of the world like put into 243 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 7: real test timing and in that situation, and it really 244 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 7: helped me like see him for who he fully fully is, 245 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 7: and you don't really get. 246 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 8: That opportunity that much in those settings. 247 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: So kind of you think do you think do you 248 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: think if Dale had a few more roses in him 249 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: he would have handled that differently? No, Dale, I want 250 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: to ask you a serious question. Dal You did really 251 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: handle that like very mature. It was very mature of you, 252 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: because I think most people in that situation and on 253 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: that show, and it is a pressure cooker and there's 254 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: so much to think about and you're near the end 255 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: would have been like, well, what the fuck is going 256 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: on here? Do you have a boyfriend? I mean, this 257 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: all seems pretty legit. What is going on? Why did 258 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: you handle it the way you did. 259 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 5: I mean, for me, whatever situation happened, it's something that 260 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: we could have the conversations and figure it out after 261 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: the fact. I don't think it was handled the right way. 262 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 5: I would have never handled it in that setting. And yeah, 263 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: there were definitely moments where I really had to bite 264 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: my tongue because I wanted to pop off, but it 265 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 5: didn't serve anything, and it was less about me and 266 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: it was more about Kat in that situation, you know, 267 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 5: regardless of what happened, Like I was going to be fine, right, 268 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 5: Like if there's hurt and everything, that's okay. But you know, 269 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 5: there was never a time where I was I was 270 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 5: going to try to throw her under the bus and 271 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: pile on. But like it was really really intense in 272 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: real time. I go for a walk and the entire 273 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 5: group of everybody's walking with me, Sean comes over, Andrew, Jeremy, everybody, 274 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 5: and there we're. 275 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: Trying to look out for you. We just want you 276 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: to be happy, like YadA, YadA, YadA. 277 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 5: And in all those settings too, I was like, look, 278 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 5: I don't care what's going on right now. All I 279 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: care about is how Cat's doing and whatever else comes 280 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: out like we can figure it out, but this whole situation, like, 281 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: I'm just kind of done with it, So you can 282 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: say whatever you want, it's not going to change how 283 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to act. I'm grown, I'm fine, like, but 284 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 5: I want to, you know, make sure she's okay. And 285 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 5: we could work everything else out and figure it out 286 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 5: after the fact, so I don't know, I'm always going 287 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: to go to the source. And it did create you know, 288 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: where we had to have some conversations after the fact, 289 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: but that's all stuff that we could work out. 290 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: Right. 291 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: We had gone through the whole Paradise experience together, so 292 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 5: like we were going to finish it together. 293 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was it was a lot longer in real time. 294 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 7: It was like he was going for a while, and 295 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 7: that's when I started to have a panic attack because 296 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 7: I was like I just felt like so powerless in 297 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 7: that moment, and it was less about what he was saying. 298 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 8: It was more about the environment and like where that 299 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 8: brought me back. 300 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 7: To, and I was just in no capacity to even 301 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 7: speak to anyone, and all I cared about was Dale. 302 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 7: So yeah, it was a lot more intense. And then 303 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 7: even after you came back out, it sounded like it 304 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 7: was really really a lot. So he did really. 305 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: Well, if you guys, but if more rosees, I don't know. 306 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know now. 307 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 8: Handled that, but he probably said a lot more. 308 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: I don't worry, I am. 309 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: I am good the moment, I didn't have as many roses. 310 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 7: Like the Goldens were very very taken aback by that, 311 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 7: because like they're like, what is this behavior? 312 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, came at me like super sideways 313 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 5: like if and again at the end of the day, 314 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: it was just an intense environment and my main thing 315 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 5: is like, look like I'm not even trying to hear 316 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: this right now, Like this has been going on for 317 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: X amount of time. Let me find Kat, let me 318 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: make sure she's okay, we can talk, we can figure 319 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: this out in the morning. 320 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: And I just kind of left it at that. 321 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Kat, going on paradise, How would you have 322 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 9: described your relationship with your ex at the time. 323 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 7: With my axe at the time, definitely not in a relationship, 324 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 7: like there was no boyfriend girlfriend. I was seeing a 325 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 7: few different people prior to going to Paradise, him being 326 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 7: one of them, and he we reconnected probably like I 327 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 7: would say, a month before I had left, But that 328 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 7: was always known that I was going and you know, 329 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 7: I've said this, and I think Hill Great wasn't the 330 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 7: healthiest and it was one of those kind of attachments 331 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 7: that I think we both needed to separate and see 332 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 7: what was going to be the case. And that's what 333 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 7: I used Paradise for. So I was coming in hopeful 334 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 7: but still like fearful of the experience. It hasn't worked 335 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 7: out so great in the beginning or in the previous years. 336 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 7: So I wasn't like, oh, I'm for sure going to 337 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 7: meet someone, like in my head, I'm not like I'm 338 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 7: going to leave knowing or with my person again. It 339 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 7: was very open to like possibly just coming home alone 340 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 7: and that was okay. But I think just like an 341 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 7: average like you know, normal dating, seeing someone but with 342 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 7: no like attachments to our titles, to our relationship at all, 343 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 7: and he can one hundred percent testify to that and 344 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 7: agree to that. 345 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Rosta or even Andrew said in the reunion 346 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 5: like it's like, yo, whatever happens, because at the end, 347 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 5: it's like close, any loose ends that. 348 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 8: But I was dating stuff. 349 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 7: A lot of people were dating because like that's what 350 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 7: we're allowed to do. Like I think in previous years, 351 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 7: we were like, let's not live our life before because 352 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 7: we want to find our person in paradise. But we 353 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 7: learned that that's not always going to be the case. 354 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 7: And if you do limit yourself prior, then you almost 355 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 7: come in with so much like expectations of how you're 356 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 7: supposed to leave. 357 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 8: And then that changed. 358 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 5: Johnnerry talked about that, like really clearly that he felt 359 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: because the build up to Paradise was so intense for him, 360 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 5: and like each time, like if it wasn't someone that 361 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: he was matching with, it, he just got lower and 362 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 5: lower and just felt less. 363 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 7: He gave up all my links before and like, so 364 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 7: that was just something I wasn't willing to do in 365 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 7: this time, Like I was still going to date and 366 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 7: live my. 367 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 8: Life and and go on a dating show. Like why 368 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 8: are you going to stop dating? We're going on a 369 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 8: dating show. 370 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: So if you guys had made it to the end, 371 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: you're the only couple. Okay, five hundred k is on 372 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: the table. Do you think you one of you might 373 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: have taken the money? Like is it something you thought 374 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 4: about or talked about at all? 375 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: And to add on to that real quick, do we 376 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: know like if you could there have been a side 377 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: deal made. 378 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: Could like you could take the money and then just 379 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: figure it out after. 380 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: That's that's what we've been wondering. 381 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would have to have something in writing where 382 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 7: I'm like, you better share that with me. But if 383 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 7: it came down to, like should we give up half 384 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 7: a million dollars and when we could just after, Like 385 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 7: I just I didn't understand how you could choose love 386 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 7: our money when like we have free will. 387 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: So you never thought about that or conversation. 388 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 8: I didn't even know that was an option, Like, we 389 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 8: didn't even think about that. 390 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 7: But if it was five hundred k, that's different than 391 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty k too, even like it's just 392 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 7: I don't really know. 393 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 8: What we would do. 394 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I never really thought about that, like some people 395 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: are because a lot like Kathy's like I take them 396 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 5: money and you know, and then even we're like, oh, yeah, 397 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: we could take the money. 398 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 3: And then we could just do this after anyway, because 399 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: so I didn't understand that, I think until you're in 400 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 3: that situation. But uh, it'd be a conversation, you know. 401 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: I think the show, I think the show needs to 402 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: draw a clearer line on that. What it means to 403 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: take the money and what it means to not take 404 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: the money, because like yeah, like. 405 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: Because Joe and I was like, we're definitely I'm at 406 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: the very least seriously considering taking it. I'm probably taking it, 407 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: and then I'm gonna be like, but we'll split it 408 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: on the back end and then we'll date the minute 409 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: we get out of here, like we're get we're getting 410 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: both somehow. 411 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: So they need to have some definitive rules. 412 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: You know, there's there's no there's no rules, are you 413 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 3: you know? 414 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 8: So season was let me throw something at the wall 415 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 8: and see what, you know stick, So that was one. 416 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: Let's take the money and then we'll just meet up 417 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 5: after and we'll just keep doing this thing. 418 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 7: Trying to I think that was one of the things 419 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 7: that these are like the kinks that they're going to 420 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 7: work out, And I think ares was kind of like 421 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 7: the guinea pigs for even the challenges, Like, yeah, the 422 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 7: first time doing something like this, so I'm giving them grace. 423 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 3: But I mean we didn't have to make the decision, 424 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: so it doesn't matter. 425 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: You guys are officially boyfriend and girlfriend, correct. 426 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are officially you know, after the show, like 427 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: we definitely. 428 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Can't don't go on any other dating shows. 429 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: Cat, you're like starting the relationship. 430 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 5: But we were very very open on like how this works, 431 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 5: like what needs to happen, things that had come up 432 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 5: with with both of us, and you know, so I 433 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 5: think like that that initial month was really. 434 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 8: Like getting the kinks out, getting yeah. 435 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 5: I'd say, getting the kinks out, and then also like 436 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 5: addressing things very very you know, upfront and everything like that, 437 00:21:54,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: and without question, you know, like August is and you know, 438 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 5: the strongest moving in the right direction, and it just 439 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: takes time because when you're in paradise and you're in 440 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 5: like this controlled environment, you're in a routine each and 441 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: every day. 442 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: And then you know, the way it ended, there were. 443 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: Things that you know, we had to communicate about, and 444 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 5: you don't have crossover in each other's lives, you know, 445 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 5: so like I mean even yeah, she ain't even like 446 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: can't do with any of my friends yet. 447 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 7: Well, the thing is just like what I learned the 448 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 7: first time, It's like you have paradise, you have this 449 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: place where like it's you know, La La land, but 450 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 7: then you have your work and you have your priorities, 451 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 7: and you have your family and you have things and 452 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 7: it's like, Okay, how do we make each other fit 453 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 7: into that? And that's like a very big test And 454 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 7: then through the fact that we're watching something on television 455 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 7: abount relationship outside opinions. Then you have to throw into 456 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 7: the fact that we can't even live a normal life, 457 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 7: like which keeps us more separate because he does stuff 458 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 7: for work that like I wouldn't be able to do. 459 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: So it was a lot of things that like I 460 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 7: feel like, if we can get through those hard moments 461 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 7: after is that's the best thing ever. And I feel 462 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 7: like it's a really good testimony to any relationship in 463 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 7: this franchise that has been able to come through. 464 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: But and you really start the relationship kind of now, yeah. 465 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 8: Really really like phases calling the space two plus Phase 466 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 8: two plus Phase one is air or filming. 467 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 7: Phase two is airing and trying to But like us, 468 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 7: being private was so hard, Like he wouldn't even go 469 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 7: into your as station with me. It was like crazy, 470 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 7: But he was still able to meet my family and everything. 471 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 7: We got a hotel like privately and it was awesome, 472 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 7: like still being able to share my life with him, 473 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 7: and he's rent all my best friends and yeah, we 474 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 7: were able to do as much as we could in private, 475 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 7: but now I feel like, because when the fun. 476 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: Can actually begin, well, how do you plan on navigating 477 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: the opposite coast right now? Because, yeah, New York City 478 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: and Diego, that is more difficult. 479 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 5: I don't think through the end of the year, like, 480 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be that difficult. You know, 481 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 5: Cat's schedule is a little bit more restrictive than mine. Obviously, 482 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: you know, I'll still be traveling and things like that, 483 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: but you know, I've also to start off September. You know, 484 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: I'm spending as much time here as I can. We've 485 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 5: already got trips planned to New York Saint Martin in November. 486 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: We haven't put those dates yet. 487 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's you know, we're still getting a lot 488 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: of time, and some of that gap is going to 489 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 5: be closed, like in a random location, right. 490 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: I've been in. 491 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 7: Long distance relationships like a lot and it was hard. 492 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 7: But in this one, even in the fact that we 493 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 7: haven't been able to live our normal life, I've seen 494 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 7: him more on a monthly basis that I had in 495 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 7: my actual real life long distance relationships. I think he 496 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 7: has the means and ability to make that effort and 497 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 7: prioritize like connection, and as long as we're both moving 498 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 7: to that, then I think that's going to be. 499 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 8: That's what keeps it totally fine. 500 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's not like you're like in New York 501 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 7: twenty four to seven, like and we're like living in 502 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 7: this like different time zone. Like he'll stay here for 503 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 7: a week at a time, and like now I can 504 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 7: actually go there and stuff like that, or go with 505 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 7: him on his little trips I'm just going to tag 506 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 7: along on but I don't. 507 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, And that was one of my first questions too, 508 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 8: because I didn't really want to do that. 509 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 7: But his previously ship was long distance and it was 510 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 7: never an issue and that kind of made me feel 511 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 7: a little bit more comfortable, Like, Okay, despite the distance, 512 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 7: it can still make it work. And as long as 513 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 7: we're both working towards bridging that gap ultimately when the 514 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 7: time is right, then I think that's what matters. 515 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I mean if both people want to 516 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: make it work, you can make it work. 517 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. And y'allah, I mean y'all know obviously, like. 518 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: You know, with how your relationship with I don't know 519 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 5: how long it was till you were you know in 520 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 5: the same. 521 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: Day he love you, guys, nobody takes it takes time. 522 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 5: You can have ideas like and I have a lot 523 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: of flexibility, but you know, it still takes time to 524 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 5: transition and then make a decision on what's right. You know, 525 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: you also have to look at the future of like okay, 526 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: like two years from now, like where. 527 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 3: Where do you want to be? 528 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 5: And so those conversations are easy ones to have. 529 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: It's it's not difficult. 530 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: She knows some of the core plans and things that 531 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 5: I have to do for whether it's business you know, uh, 532 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 5: tax purposes, all those like types of things. But right now, 533 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: like those are things that all work itself out and 534 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 5: we're not putting too much pressure on it. I guess, 535 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 5: you know, I just have a few more flights booked. 536 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really just about having fun right now, Like 537 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. And the more you enjoy each other, 538 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: the more you'll make time to see each other and 539 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: you in your guys's opinion at the time, do you 540 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: think if the show is based off of the strongest 541 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: couples make it to the end, do you agree with 542 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: the way. 543 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 8: It ended, like the two that I'm sure like how 544 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 8: we all. 545 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: Do you think the two that were the like the end, 546 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: so Andrew and Alex and Justin Spencer, do you think 547 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: they at the time wore the two strongest couples. 548 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I like we talked about this on the reunion. 549 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 5: Everyone has different phases of where they're at and the development, right, 550 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: you come in at different times. Cat and I in 551 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: our opinion, like we're as strong as anybody. I think 552 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 5: we were very sick. We were very open obviously Spence 553 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 5: and Jess we're lock and key. At the beginning, we 554 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: knew there was no there was no engagement that was 555 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 5: happening in Paradise for either of us, and yeah, it 556 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: just loven't happening. 557 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: But we also went through a lot of things. 558 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 5: On the show, you know, with people coming in with controversy, 559 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 5: a little conflict with us that was really easy for 560 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 5: us to move past. 561 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 10: So I think, and I mean they're beautiful in their 562 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 10: own way, Like they have this like quick fast love 563 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 10: that I don't think either of them anticipated coming into 564 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 10: Paradise to experience. 565 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 8: And then you have Justin Spencer who are like just 566 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 8: so in love, Like I've actually never seen something like 567 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 8: that in real time, Like coming off even like I'm like, 568 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 8: you guys are so in love, and I think we 569 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 8: all just have in Jeremy and Bailey even like the 570 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 8: most I think least expected couple, but they, I. 571 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: Mean and Bailey had like a really really good, really 572 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: good thing. 573 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have. 574 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 7: Each other down, like they hold each other down, and 575 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 7: I love that about them. So it's just we all 576 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 7: have our own differential, unique qualities in each relationship that 577 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 7: it's really difficult to say one is stronger than the 578 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 7: other because it just depends on what you determine or 579 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 7: like it's subjective, right, But. 580 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: The way the way it finished, like we're not mad 581 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: about it, obviously we would like to be there, you know, 582 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 5: I'll I'll take the take the l which was hard 583 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 5: in the physical challenge, but uh yeah, we're good with it. 584 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: And how mad were How mad were you when you 585 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: lost that challenge on a scale of one through ten, 586 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: So that I. 587 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: Didn't know, so I tore my triceph before filming got cleared. 588 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 5: I didn't realize that I tore my lap as well 589 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 5: at the same time until halfway through filming, so like 590 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 5: we're getting ready for the final and then spent like 591 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 5: I'm talking with Spencer, like, what's. 592 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: What's going to happen? Did you figure it out? Like 593 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: did you go get checked out? 594 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: I was doing a. 595 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 5: Like like stretching in a push up in a row 596 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: and like I. 597 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: Could feel here, I feel the separation. 598 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 5: Everything is, yeah, torn off the backside of my lap. 599 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: And it was fine, Like I didn't think anything of 600 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 5: it because we didn't have any physical challenges. But the 601 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: day of the Way to the World, I'm talking with Spencer. 602 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 5: I was like, you don't think it's going to be 603 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 5: anything physical, right, He's like, oh no, we haven't done 604 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: anything up until that point. 605 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: And then we get there and we look at each 606 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: other and I was. 607 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 7: Like, they wait us the day before too, So I 608 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 7: was like, I'm fucked and then crushed out almost after 609 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 7: every like it was difficult because He's challenges besides, honestly, 610 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 7: the one that we won were so subjective and like 611 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 7: difficult to like. 612 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 5: There were some challenges you weren't going to win, So 613 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 5: what were frustrating because you want to win the challenge, 614 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: you want to get uh immunity and everything. That Way 615 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: to the World was frustrating because I've never that was 616 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 5: the first time in my life I've ever felt at 617 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 5: a disadvantage or vulnerable physically if I was fully healthy, 618 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: Like I couldn't even feel my right side of the 619 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 5: body after the challenge, my left side I was fine, 620 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 5: this was just destroyed. 621 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: But I also did the challenge. 622 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 5: I wasn't going to try to back out because it's like, 623 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 5: you know, anything can happen, and it's like we're. 624 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: Here, like let's let's just let's just rip it. 625 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: Let's just rip it Dale. What's your horoscope sign? Libra 626 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: Kat does that work for you? 627 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 7: I've actually needed a few libras. Surprisingly, it's not about 628 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 7: the horoscope. I've already analyzed his birth Turt. I'm pretty 629 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 7: sure you're a double Libra actually, But yeah, it's all 630 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 7: about balance, and I think that that is what I 631 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 7: need most, and so I think he has really kind 632 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 7: of just been that like sounding board of balance for 633 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 7: both of us essentially. 634 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 6: But I feel like you guys balance each other in 635 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 6: like nice ways. 636 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, different ways, but it's I'm also like super like 637 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 5: punctual prudent, like like to my detriment, like if it 638 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 5: comes logistics, schedules, timing, I'm almost like. 639 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: Obsessive about it. But that's also because of sports. 640 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 5: I think life is just crazy at times, and there's 641 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: so many like areas that I have to have like 642 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: very very detailed, consistent like planning. But it's I also 643 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 5: realizing what you know, we've had to kind of navigate 644 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 5: is you know, I can't always be on I gotta 645 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes just let things ride around this lest 646 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 5: the flow be a. 647 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 7: Little goofy, like just just just feel a little feels. 648 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 7: But yeah, he also helps me like that that type 649 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 7: of energy mode. 650 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 8: But it's me too, so thank Yeah, there's a lot 651 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 8: of balance. 652 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and well, exciting time for both of us right now. 653 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 654 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, I like both of you a lot, 655 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: and I really think it could work and I hope 656 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: it does. And next time you're in New York, we 657 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: should get dinner. But that's really all we got for 658 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: you today. 659 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 8: You guys are in New York. 660 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, New York. 661 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 7: Wait, so we could hang out with our friends every 662 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 7: New York. 663 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 8: I love New York. 664 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 7: My family's from there, so that's like my most visited city. 665 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 7: So it's it's awesome. But yeah, we're very excited that 666 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 7: we know. 667 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: All the thoughts. 668 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if we're doing fashion week, not I 669 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 5: don't I don't know about the fashion week craze though 670 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: we'll see. 671 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: You know now you're going to miss out. 672 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 8: It's just it's a lot. 673 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: It's a lot. 674 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: It's a lot. Yeah, but it is once and everybody. 675 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: But regardless, like we I. 676 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 8: Think so much life to live. I'm very excited for. 677 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's just fun things that you know, we're we're 678 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 5: gonna be able to do. And I think that what's 679 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 5: really cool is we go into this phase now we 680 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: get experience new things together. It could be the same 681 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 5: thing that we experience alone, but it's going to completely 682 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 5: change because you're with someone. And I'm excited because there's 683 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 5: a lot of things that you know, I'll be able 684 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 5: to show and like kind of open up my world. 685 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: To Kat and like that. 686 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 5: That excites me because there's so many things I've done 687 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: by myself for so long, which I'm fine doing. 688 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: I've gotten used. 689 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 5: To it, but I you know, I life is the 690 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 5: best thing is being able to share it with your 691 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 5: partner or people you love and care about. 692 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: So we've got some fun things ahead. 693 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 8: We're excited. 694 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we're excited for you guys. 695 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: We're excited to follow along you know, you got the 696 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: holidays coming up, meeting each other's, you know, more friends 697 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 4: and family. 698 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 6: So yeah, we're just wishing. 699 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: You guys all the best. Thanks for coming on today The. 700 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 7: Dread in November, guys, I've been broken up for two 701 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 7: years in a row, in. 702 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: A row in November, November, Thanksgiving week, like at least Christmas. 703 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 5: Fun fact, December is the busiest time of year for 704 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 5: dating apps. 705 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: And that's because people. 706 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 8: They guess, they just break up their friends. 707 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving because everyone's going back for the holidays. 708 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: Turkey dumb, turkey dumb. 709 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 7: We're gonna hold it down, Yeah, memories because yeah, I. 710 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 8: Can't be doing that. 711 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's a thing. It's a thing. 712 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 4: We're going to break the cycle, you know, ThReD Times, 713 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 4: the charm Cat. 714 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: This is your November girl. 715 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: I have faith in you, guys. I have faith in 716 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: you guys. And to all our listeners, thank you guys 717 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in to beat your happy hour. 718 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. 719 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. 720 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 4: Bye.